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Dan Sullivan is here and senator

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it's good to have you back on the show and great

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to be in your state. Hey Guy,

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welcome to Alaska. We are so excited

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that you're in our great state. By

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the way, if you were

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in Anchorage this morning you would

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have woken up to about I don't know three or

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four inches of snow so we greeted you with the

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mid-May, mid-spring snow too so welcome.

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We're really glad to have you.

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I'll be in Anchorage later so I'll see

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perhaps some of the residual snow when I

1:05

get down there but for now farther north

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in Fairbanks where there is no snow on

1:09

the ground aside from the big piles that

1:11

are still melting from the winter sort of

1:14

in the shoved off in the side of

1:16

the parking lot it's amazing to see that

1:18

still in May. Senator before we

1:20

get talking about it

1:23

oh I don't doubt it. Before

1:25

we get into some Alaska related

1:27

issues particularly pertaining to energy I

1:29

do want to get your reaction to

1:32

now confirmation from the president himself

1:35

that the Biden administration is now

1:37

threatening our allies in Israel

1:39

to cut off military

1:41

offensive aid during this war

1:44

that they're fighting against Hamas

1:46

a war that Hamas started

1:48

unless the Israelis agreed not to

1:50

go into the city of Rafa to

1:52

end Hamas and its leadership

1:55

it's like something out of a bad

1:58

dream of what a character is.

2:00

caricature might have looked like about how

2:02

a Biden presidency might go. It

2:04

comes against this backdrop of Biden assisting.

2:07

That his support for Israel is

2:09

ironclad. And now you have

2:11

the prime minister of Israel saying that

2:13

if they are forced to fight alone,

2:16

they will, even if it means using

2:18

their own fingernails to fight, just

2:20

a disgraceful scene in my view. And I wonder

2:22

how you see it. I

2:25

completely agree with you, disgraceful.

2:29

And to be honest, something that I never

2:32

thought we would ever see in America,

2:35

the commander in chief is

2:38

basically negotiating

2:40

for the terrorists.

2:43

Think about that guy. He's negotiating

2:46

for the Hamas terrorists.

2:50

And he's establishing red lines

2:52

against our most important ally.

2:55

The world is completely turned upside

2:58

down. And we

3:00

all know he's doing it for politics, right?

3:02

He's doing it for the vote in Michigan.

3:04

He's doing it for the

3:06

far left radicals in the Democratic

3:09

Party. I mean, it is look,

3:13

we all have our differences on certain issues.

3:15

I've never, I never thought I would see

3:17

this in my lifetime. The

3:19

commander in chief, as

3:22

Israel is facing an

3:24

existential threat. Remember,

3:26

Hamas is telling the world, by the

3:28

way, we're going to do, we're

3:31

going to do it again. We're going to

3:34

do October 7th again. And

3:37

here you have Biden essentially

3:39

siding with them. This

3:42

is essentially giving strength,

3:46

power and influence, not

3:48

just to Hamas, but

3:51

the puppet master of all the terrorism

3:53

in the region. And that's

3:55

Iran. I have been pressing

3:57

this administration from day one to drop

3:59

their appeasement policy of

4:02

the Iranians. What Biden did

4:04

with this announcement is he

4:06

doubled down on his failed Iran

4:09

appeasement policy while

4:13

throwing our most important ally in the Middle

4:15

East under the bus. Yeah,

4:18

and they do a lot of dirty

4:21

work for us in that region. They

4:23

help massively with intelligence. I

4:25

mean, this is very much a mutually

4:27

beneficial relationship that is now as

4:30

strained as it's ever been. I just

4:32

I can't believe that this is happening. I

4:35

cannot believe that the president made the threat

4:38

that he did. And we were just

4:40

talking about it before you joined the show, Senator.

4:44

If the goal is to get to

4:46

a ceasefire that Israel can agree to,

4:49

this just eliminates Israel's

4:52

leverage in those negotiations. And look, Hamas

4:54

doesn't want to negotiate in good faith.

4:57

That's very clear. But if that's the

4:59

goal, this kills what Israel

5:01

is trying to do leverage wise at

5:03

the negotiating table. And if you're

5:06

going to then withhold precision munitions

5:08

from the Israelis, then the

5:10

munitions that they do use might be

5:12

less precise. So if the whole pretense

5:15

is that you're worried about civilian

5:18

casualties in Rafah, you're likely guaranteeing

5:20

more of them with this move.

5:22

It just in every single way,

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it looks like an

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insane thing to do from our perspective,

5:29

from the American perspective,

5:31

unless you are looking through the

5:33

view and through the kind

5:36

of lens of

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pandering to a small group

5:41

of people who hate Israel

5:43

and hate the United States because

5:46

you feel like you need their

5:48

votes. I don't see another explanation

5:50

truly. I couldn't

5:52

agree with you more. And what you

5:54

just said, when

5:57

you just unpack this, Just,

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again, baffling

6:05

decision is that to

6:09

your point, it's undermining leverage for

6:11

a ceasefire. You just, you literally

6:13

just flush that down the toilet

6:16

and it

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increases the potential for, you

6:22

know, civilian deaths and

6:24

casualties in the

6:26

West Bank. So look,

6:28

I think you just laid it out. This is driven

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by the

6:33

president's far left Democrat

6:37

politics where

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he thinks he needs

6:41

to appease the most radical

6:43

elements. Really, let's

6:46

call it what it is, Guy. It's

6:49

the Hamas

6:51

sympathizers within the

6:53

Democratic Party and that's

6:57

what's driving this decision. Yeah,

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it's deeply offensive to me as someone

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who loves this country and supports Israel.

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I'm sure it's perhaps even more deeply

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offensive to you as a retired colonel

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in the U.S. Marine Corps. So

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many people are just aghast shaking their

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heads bewildered that this is reality, but

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it is under Joe Biden. And

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here's a theme to transition to our next topic

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here, Senator, in the time that we have left.

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I think that a lot of the

7:25

horrible decisions being made by this president

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are rooted in pressure coming

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from his hard left and

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he's unable to resist it, whether he's, you know, afraid

7:34

of them or whether he's just out to lunch and

7:36

other people are pulling the strings, whatever it is. That's

7:39

what's driving the bus here on this disgraceful

7:42

Israel betrayal. It's also what's driving the bus,

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I think, on a lot of these green

7:47

energy type decisions. And

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when it comes to, you know,

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energy production, regulations, environmental policy, he

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has really been co-opted

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by the pretty extreme left. left

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over and over again on

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those issues as well which have

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direct impact, disproportionate impact here in

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the state of Alaska. Just speaking

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to some Alaskans last night who

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were very upset with him, they

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feel like this administration, this president

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has a target specifically

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on their back, on this state,

8:19

on their livelihoods. I know you

8:21

agree with that assessment. Can you

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explain to the lower 48 why

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that's the case? Well look, you're

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100% right. The far

8:31

left radical wing of the

8:33

Democratic Party is driving this

8:36

crazy anti-Israel pro-Hamas policy. It's

8:39

driving the open border policy by the way.

8:42

And it's driving the Biden

8:44

administration's war on Alaska. Guy,

8:46

we have had 63 executive

8:49

orders and executive actions, counting,

8:52

you never know when we're going to get a new one, singularly

8:55

focused on Alaska from

8:58

this administration. It

9:02

is a daily onslaught. I

9:04

have pressed the president directly to

9:06

his face, handing him this handout

9:09

that I have called the Last

9:11

Frontier Lockup that actually lays out

9:14

each of the 63. And

9:16

I've said, Mr. President, we need

9:18

a ceasefire on the war on

9:21

Alaska. You are

9:23

sanctioning Alaska, particularly

9:26

in terms of our energy sector, much

9:28

more than you sanction the terrorists in

9:30

Iran. Like that is

9:32

not a joke. That is a fact. And

9:35

when this happens, of course it hurts

9:37

Alaskans in our future, in our

9:40

economy, in our jobs. But

9:42

to your point, Guy, every

9:44

American should be concerned about

9:46

this because as

9:48

I'm sure you're seeing when you're

9:51

in Alaska, we are such a

9:53

storehouse for American energy, for American

9:55

critical minerals, for so many things

9:57

that makes us a strong country.

10:00

And when you shut us down, yes,

10:02

you're hurting Alaskans, but you're hurting

10:04

Americans, you're hurting one of our

10:06

critical strengths, and this

10:09

is driven by the far left. By

10:11

the way, almost all the actions they've

10:13

taken are also fully illegal. Congress

10:16

has legislated in a lot of these areas

10:18

saying don't do this, he does

10:20

it. And one more thing I think

10:22

it's really important to emphasize, you

10:25

know, he shut down what was called the

10:27

National Petroleum Reserve of Alaska. It was set

10:29

aside by Congress for oil and

10:31

gas development just a couple weeks ago. And

10:34

when he did that, he

10:36

literally said, the President of the United

10:39

States, I'm doing this on behalf of

10:41

what the Alaska Native people, the indigenous

10:43

people in that part of

10:45

Alaska, the North Slope region of Alaska,

10:48

I'm doing it for them. I'm doing it because

10:50

they want this. Guy,

10:52

that is an out and out lie

10:55

by the President, the great

10:57

patriotic indigenous people of the

10:59

North Slope of Alaska, don't

11:01

want anything like this. He

11:04

knows it, his administration knows it, and

11:06

yet they're using

11:09

the voices of Alaska Natives

11:11

to... He's

11:13

like hiding behind indigenous people and

11:17

totally mischaracterizing their position to excuse

11:19

some left-wing environmental policy that he

11:21

wants. So many of his

11:23

policies seem to be America last, and

11:26

unfortunately it's like Alaska last of all.

11:29

Senator Dan Sullivan from Alaska, my guest on the

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Guy Benson Show, Senator, thank you so much for

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your time, and we'll be right back. That

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