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He's the House Oversight Committee chairman.

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He's of Kentucky, of course. He will be

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joining us later on in the hour. Mark

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contributor. He'll join us in our second

1:54

hour. And then Congresswoman Kat Kamek

1:56

of Florida, one of our friends of the

1:59

program. She will be here in

2:02

our final hour just after 5 p.m.

2:05

Eastern. As

2:07

we come on the air here today,

2:10

I'm actually looking forward. I have it marked on

2:12

my calendar. There is going to be a hearing

2:15

on Capitol Hill on May

2:17

the 23rd, just

2:20

about two weeks from now, two weeks in a day.

2:24

Congressman Kevin Kiley, who was on the show recently

2:26

from California, he's on this committee.

2:28

This is the Education Committee. They've been dragging

2:31

up some of these university

2:33

presidents to testify

2:35

on the Hill because of just

2:37

the rampant anti-Semitism, the chaos, the

2:39

lawlessness, civil rights violations, I

2:42

think, happening really

2:44

across the country on so many

2:46

campuses. The first

2:48

batch of these university leaders who

2:50

were brought before the

2:53

committee, they were from Penn,

2:56

Harvard, and MIT. Within

3:00

a few weeks of that testimony, the

3:03

Penn president was gone and the Harvard president was

3:05

gone. Harvard president

3:07

also had some plagiarism issues in there,

3:10

but two out of three, no longer

3:13

in those positions. Then there was

3:15

another hearing featuring Columbia. That was

3:17

before things got really bad, before

3:20

the encampment. That

3:23

president's leadership, quote, unquote, at

3:26

Columbia has been abysmal, embarrassing,

3:29

of course culminating in the

3:31

cancellation of commencement. What

3:34

a humiliation, what a disgrace. Well,

3:36

when Kiley was here just a couple of shows

3:38

ago, he was talking about

3:40

some of the schools that were going to be

3:43

represented at this upcoming hearing on May the 23rd.

3:46

One of them is UCLA, where you

3:48

have the terrorist Hamas checkpoints on campus.

3:52

Their wrong thinking Jews were not allowed

3:54

to pass. You

3:56

needed a little wristband to show that you were an

3:58

anti-Zionist or else you couldn't walk away. around your own

4:00

campus. And

4:02

it wasn't just you. There was a black

4:05

guy who didn't want to play the game.

4:07

He filmed himself just getting bullied and harassed

4:09

by white, pro-Hamas, leftists,

4:11

masked, of course, preventing

4:14

people, impeding free movement, around

4:16

a campus

4:18

where people were just students at

4:21

the school. Couldn't go

4:23

to the library. Couldn't go

4:25

to class on their preferred route because

4:28

you had Hamas supporters draped

4:30

in head scarves, and

4:33

of course, COVID masks as well, blocking their

4:35

way. Then there

4:37

was a young woman who was assaulted

4:39

and sent to the hospital, a Jewish

4:41

woman. And

4:44

then some people took it upon themselves

4:46

to create a counter mob. And there

4:48

was a big violent riot, basically, on

4:50

campus. After the school let that happen

4:52

and fester for days. So

4:55

UCLA will have to answer for this.

4:57

The leaders, quote unquote, of UCLA will

4:59

have to answer for this on May

5:01

23. The other schools that

5:03

were at least slated to be part of that

5:05

hearing were Yale,

5:08

where they've had some unpleasantness.

5:10

Let's put it that way, including we

5:12

played you the audio. The video is even

5:14

more disturbing of these Hamas-niks,

5:17

these pro-Hamas terrorist

5:19

sympathizers, taking down

5:21

the American flag on

5:23

a war memorial on campus and

5:25

cheering, just

5:27

like we've seen American flags burned,

5:30

Palestinian flags hoisted at some of these

5:32

events. There's a war memorial in New

5:34

York desecrated this week. So

5:38

it makes sense that Yale would

5:41

be held to account. I believe

5:43

University of Michigan was another one, where

5:46

there was some death to America

5:50

color commentary happening in some of the literature

5:52

being handed out, at

5:56

that campus in Ann Arbor. Now

5:58

the update. which is

6:00

interesting to me is apparently Yale

6:02

and Michigan, they will submit

6:04

their testimony in a

6:07

written report and replacing

6:09

them in the hearing

6:11

room will be leaders of Rutgers University,

6:13

which has been one of the epicenters

6:15

of some of the ugliest mob

6:18

action anywhere in

6:20

the country. This is in New Jersey, State University

6:22

of New Jersey. They have handled it horribly. The

6:25

president there giving into

6:27

multiple demands of this mob.

6:30

Like I think I had read from Seth Mandel

6:32

who went there, there were 10 demands and

6:34

Rutgers said yes to eight of them. Just

6:36

negotiating with terrorist

6:39

sympathizers just to

6:41

maintain order on your own campus. It's

6:44

crazy. So the

6:46

Rutgers president will be up there as will

6:48

the president of Northwestern,

6:51

my alma mater, the school that I love, Michael

6:54

Schill, I've been critical of him. And

6:57

very much so recently again, because

6:59

he was actually one of

7:01

the university presidents who pioneered this

7:04

thing of negotiating with the

7:06

Hamas crowd and giving

7:08

them concessions, which I

7:10

think is again, horrendous leadership

7:12

that sets a very bad,

7:15

dangerous precedent. So Schill and some of these

7:17

others are going to be dragged up there

7:19

and I hope some really tough questions will

7:21

be asked, including at

7:24

Northwestern that there's a subject to be explored by

7:26

some of these members of Congress. I've

7:28

been in touch with a few of them. The

7:30

anti-Semitism committee. So they

7:33

had the problem after October 7th, you had some

7:35

people on campus and just beyond campus, who

7:37

were pretty happy about October 7th, happy that Hamas killed a

7:39

bunch of Jews. And they

7:41

made that pretty clear. And

7:44

obviously Jewish students on campus were

7:47

horrified by this and

7:49

unable to really get control of

7:51

things and enforce rules properly. Northwestern's

7:54

brain trust said, well, let's put

7:56

together a committee against anti-Semitism

7:58

and other forms of hate, of course. And

8:01

they put some fanatically anti-Israel

8:03

people on the committee, which is just, you

8:06

know, chef's kiss. And

8:08

when the negotiations happened with the encampment

8:11

just recently, and they made a bunch

8:13

of concessions to the Hamas supporters in

8:16

order to cajole them from

8:18

ceasing their illegal behavior, some

8:21

of the leaders of the anti-Semitism committee said, wait, we

8:24

weren't even consulted on this. We weren't even given a

8:26

heads up on this. Like,

8:28

you're having these conversations with

8:31

the leaders of an encampment where

8:34

there has been anti-Semitism on parade,

8:36

including like actual Hamas gear

8:38

that people are wearing, a Star of

8:40

David spray-painted with a cross

8:42

through it. You're

8:45

talking to the leadership of this group and

8:47

like negotiating with them and making a deal,

8:49

and you don't even give us the courtesy

8:51

of a heads up that it's happening. So

8:54

seven members of that committee resigned, and Hamas.

8:57

Then the rest of the members of the

8:59

committee said, well, now we can't do our

9:01

work. So effectively, that group, that panel has

9:03

just disbanded completely because

9:05

they were window dressing. They

9:08

weren't actually there to deal with a

9:10

serious problem in a serious way. They

9:13

were there so people could point at

9:16

a group of people talking about the problem.

9:18

See, we've taken action by creating a committee.

9:20

Well, now fortunately, that whole charade, that whole

9:22

facade, the dance is over. They've

9:25

quit because they were sick of

9:27

being used as impotent pawns.

9:30

They felt betrayed. This was like one

9:32

last indignity. So that would be another,

9:35

I think, area of interest

9:38

for members of Congress to inquire about on May 23rd.

9:40

So that date is circled on

9:42

my calendar. Now I say all of that because

9:45

you have one side of the ledger, which is all

9:48

the dysfunction and all the incredibly weak

9:50

leadership that we've

9:52

seen and we have been talking about and others

9:55

have chronicled now for weeks and weeks, really months

9:58

from October 8th beyond. It's just

10:00

gotten worse recently with

10:03

these planned agitations escalated

10:06

and they're coordinated, they're planned, they're

10:08

funded by the hard left,

10:10

carried out by hard leftists and Islamists. That's what

10:13

we're seeing. That's just a fact. On

10:16

the other side of the equation, the other side of

10:18

the ledger, there has been actual,

10:21

good, serious leadership

10:23

that has prevented this garbage

10:26

a lot of places, not by

10:28

a miracle, not by some coincidence,

10:31

but because leadership rules, rather

10:34

leadership matters and rules and enforcement

10:37

are essential and credibility of the

10:39

leaders to follow through matters. Where

10:42

people feel like they can get away with it,

10:45

they're going to not only do the things, they're

10:47

going to push further and further and further. The

10:49

more they get away with, the

10:51

more brazen they get. However,

10:53

other places where the

10:56

laws and the rules are

10:58

respected and enforced with real

11:00

consequences, amazingly, you see

11:02

almost none of it or it

11:04

shrivels up real quick when people

11:06

realize, oh, bleep, I don't want

11:08

to get suspended or expelled or

11:12

prosecuted. Which

11:14

brings us to, I would say, maybe

11:16

the exemplar of this better

11:18

model, the University of

11:20

Florida's President, Ben Sasse. Sasse

11:22

was a U.S. Senator in Nebraska for years. We'd have

11:24

him on this show. I have a lot of time

11:26

for him. And whatever you

11:29

think of him in terms of his views on Trump, sweep

11:31

that off to the side. The

11:34

guy's a university president at a major

11:36

state school in a huge state with

11:38

a massive on-campus population of people all

11:41

across the spectrum politically. He

11:44

had a press conference with Governor Ron

11:46

DeSantis. They're on the same page, lock

11:49

step, in

11:51

favor of enforcement. And

11:53

during the press conference, Sasse

11:55

had four messages to four different groups

11:58

of people. This is... Really

12:00

very simple messaging, but the fact that

12:02

it feels exceptional, I think, is indictment,

12:05

an indictment of so many others. But

12:08

this is the model. This is how

12:10

it's done. Here's President

12:12

Sasse at the University of Florida starting

12:15

in Cut 35. I have

12:17

four simple messages. First, to the

12:19

Floridians who pay our bills, the

12:22

University of Florida will always uphold

12:25

speech and assembly rights, and

12:27

we will also always follow the

12:29

law. Too much of higher education

12:31

has been captured by a lot of nonsense

12:33

over the course of the last weeks, and

12:35

that won't happen at the University of Florida.

12:39

You can hear the chanting in the background. There are

12:41

people protesting. They don't like DeSantis. They don't like Sasse.

12:43

Well, guess what? They're having their

12:45

say. They're in charge. They're exerting their authority.

12:49

And as a result, things are

12:52

much, much, much better in Gainesville,

12:56

in Gainesville, Florida, which is where UF is,

12:58

than so many of these other college towns

13:01

with weaker, mealy-mouthed,

13:03

craven, scared, sniveling,

13:06

so-called leaders. So

13:08

that was a message to the people of Florida, the

13:10

taxpayers of Florida who fund the school. What

13:13

about the next constituency he wants to talk to, Cut

13:15

36? To the

13:17

law enforcement officers who have kept

13:19

things peaceful, thank you. Your professionalism

13:22

has been amazing. Over

13:24

the course of the last two weeks

13:26

in particular, you have been long suffering,

13:29

giving protesters the right to exercise their

13:31

free speech rights, but also the opportunity

13:33

to come into compliance with our time,

13:36

place, and manner restrictions. Our

13:38

goal has not been to arrest. It has been

13:40

to help people get into compliance with the law,

13:43

and what you have done in the face of being

13:45

spit on, being shouted

13:48

at with profanities, has been amazing.

13:50

The professionalism of our law enforcement

13:52

is a model for lots and

13:54

lots of people across the country.

13:57

All right, so statement one is to the taxpayers of

13:59

Florida. Statement 2 is a

14:01

thank you to law enforcement in Gainesville. Third

14:04

message, cut 37. To

14:07

the protesters, you have

14:09

heard us say this again and again. You

14:11

have a constitutional right to protest

14:14

and we will protect that, but

14:16

anyone who crosses the line with prohibited

14:18

actions will face the consequences. This is

14:21

a big university where not everyone is

14:23

going to agree. 86,000

14:25

souls on this campus and we

14:27

will treat each other with respect.

14:31

Unlike many institutions across the country, I'm

14:33

incredibly proud that over the course of

14:35

our 21 commencements over

14:37

the last 6 plus days, we were

14:39

able to celebrate our students and celebrate

14:41

their families, which is the purpose of

14:44

the commencement time. Too often in our

14:46

time and place, we give the most

14:48

voice to the loudest and angriest people.

14:50

The University of Florida is not filled

14:53

with angry people and it's been wonderful

14:55

to see a lot of moms have

14:57

tears streaming down their cheeks as

15:00

we were able to hold commencements over

15:02

the course of the last week. And

15:04

that's because of the fortitude and professionalism

15:06

in particular of our law enforcement. A bit

15:10

of a football spike in

15:12

SEC country on these schools

15:14

that are canceling graduation, canceling

15:16

commencement at USC and Columbia,

15:19

for example. Not at

15:21

UF. He's like, parents were here,

15:23

students were here, happy people graduating

15:25

and celebrating because they

15:27

enforced the rules. And

15:30

you hear some of the ghouls shrieking in

15:32

the background about genocide. He said, you

15:34

guys have the right to free speech. You do

15:36

not have the right to violate

15:39

our rules or to violate the law. So

15:42

we will protect the former and we

15:44

will punish the latter. Should

15:46

be simple, but

15:49

obviously, evidently, demonstrably,

15:51

for a lot of people in

15:53

important leadership positions at elite institutions

15:55

across the country, it's

15:57

been very difficult for them. to

16:00

come close to this level of clarity and

16:04

determination, which is key. You just have to stick by it

16:06

so people know that you have the cred to follow through.

16:09

And then finally, very importantly, a final message

16:11

to a fourth group from the president of

16:14

the University of Florida in Cup 38. And

16:17

finally, to our Jewish students, UF

16:19

is proud to be home to the most

16:21

Jewish students anywhere in the country. This is

16:23

the most Jewish university in the country, and

16:25

it is great to be a Jewish Gator.

16:28

I want all of our students to feel

16:31

safe, but more than the subjective feeling, I

16:33

want our students to be safe. And that

16:35

is true today, and we're glad to have

16:37

you, and we're excited to celebrate a big

16:40

future together. Go Gators! Bravo.

16:44

That is how it's done. A lot

16:47

of people should be taking notes.

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17:31

over by the terrorist supporters last

17:33

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17:35

26. I think

17:37

it all comes down to the school.

17:40

And it's not really public safety calls, but

17:42

even though I felt abandoned by them, I

17:45

think the school could have done more to prevent

17:48

this and to be there for us when

17:50

we needed them. We don't expect to go

17:52

to the work and get swarmed

17:54

by an angry mob with rope and duct

17:56

tape and masks and gloves. It's

17:59

the last thing on our minds. You know, there's the issue

18:01

that was their security breaches before? Yes. Should

18:03

there have been more security? Absolutely. Did we

18:05

know about the history of that? No, but

18:08

I'm sure some like I said someone did

18:10

and they should have protected us A

18:12

little more that's it. You know public safety is

18:14

two buildings down or up there in low. I'm

18:17

in Hamilton There was I didn't

18:19

see even when I even when I left the building.

18:21

I didn't see one public safety officer What's that about?

18:23

You know what I mean? Were they were they told

18:25

to were they told to stay in place or something?

18:27

I don't know, but they didn't tell us that we

18:29

had to fight our way out. You understand Fight

18:33

our way out. That was via the free press Facing

18:36

down that mob Is

18:38

it any coincidence that a bunch of leftists? Have

18:41

started tweeting that the media needs to stop covering

18:43

the colleges so much. I'll stop with the protest

18:45

coverage It's backfiring

18:47

badly because these people are

18:50

awful New

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Guy Benson show We're

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19:10

now is the chairman of the House

19:13

Committee on oversight and accountability James

19:16

Comer Republican of Kentucky the first

19:18

congressional district there Mr.

19:20

Chairman welcome back to the show Thanks

19:22

for having me So we've been

19:24

talking a bit on this program about

19:27

the encampment at George Washington University

19:29

in DC I think a lot

19:31

of Americans have seen the images

19:33

of the statue of George Washington

19:35

our core founding

19:37

father just covered in graffiti

19:39

and stickers and various

19:44

Kefia and another paraphernalia and

19:46

people were appalled by this

19:49

they saw messages being Projected

19:52

onto buildings on campus that

19:54

were pretty menacing There

19:57

were like show trials being held

19:59

on the quad for university leadership

20:01

with people chanting guillotine, all

20:03

sorts of anti-Semitic signs, statements, and

20:06

chants. This went on for days.

20:09

At some point the school realized

20:11

it had really let this go

20:13

far enough. I think the

20:15

school really blew it for a while, but then they

20:17

said, okay, we need to put an end to this.

20:19

They asked for help from

20:21

Washington DC, from the police, from

20:24

the administration in DC, Mayor Bowser,

20:26

etc. And the answer came back,

20:28

no, we're not going to help

20:30

clear this illegal encampment. Pick

20:33

up the thread from there. Then what happened?

20:36

Well, I led a group

20:38

of the oversight committee members and we

20:40

went to George Washington campus. We began

20:42

with a meeting with the university president

20:46

and their faculty. Then we

20:48

toured the encampment and we

20:50

saw firsthand the protesters. We

20:52

heard the anti-Semitic chants, the

20:54

racist chants. We

20:56

saw the signs. We

20:59

had a press conference there and basically my message

21:01

that day was help was on the way. Then

21:05

announced that we were going to have

21:07

an emergency committee hearing with the mayor,

21:09

Mayor Bowser, and her police chief, and

21:12

let them explain why they refused to enter

21:14

the call from the university president. Monday

21:17

night before the meeting, which the

21:19

committee hearing was supposed to be today, Mayor Bowser

21:23

and I had a private

21:25

meeting in my office in

21:27

the capital and just

21:31

said that, you know, she obviously didn't

21:33

want to come to the committee hearing and

21:35

I said, well, I was gonna subpoena her

21:37

if she didn't show. The solution to this

21:41

problem is to clear out

21:43

the encampments because they're trespassing. We

21:46

had an argument over whether or not they were

21:48

breaking the law and they were clearly breaking the

21:50

law. I mean, it's okay to peacefully protest. You

21:52

can't set up tents and

21:54

block entrances and

21:56

yell racial slurs and intimidate

21:59

Jewish students. That that legal The

22:01

as at the very least. They were

22:03

terrific and the university requested the police

22:05

to come in and and a palpable

22:07

allow may refuse to do that. So

22:10

the hearing was set for today. Early

22:13

will either leave last Saturday the for at

22:15

some point they were that included out. Are

22:18

called the Mayor and. Factored:

22:21

Told her that does she weigh the right

22:23

decision and know we would. We would postpone

22:25

the hearing. Tell if you haven't seen in

22:27

that will require schedule airing but you know

22:30

that it was a victory for those videos

22:32

You said that. We had to get to

22:34

that point. To to

22:36

bring everyone in and and litem.

22:38

Ill. Add sick to my realize that

22:41

could be another moment Lox at. The

22:43

Harvard President and the other ideally

22:45

president said to testify before congress

22:47

a month to go about anti

22:49

semitism. I'm

22:52

just like. I'm

22:54

blown away and mystified by the story and

22:56

a couple of different ways and means that

22:58

the failures a T W and from the

23:01

leadership is T W M in. that's one

23:03

thing and I think that they should have

23:05

to answer for letting things get to the

23:07

point that they did. But as I noted

23:09

as you then picked up on. Days.

23:12

Ago Days and days when he said okay, this is beyond

23:14

our control We need help. And the

23:16

city came back and said no. I mean the Police.

23:18

I I don't think rank and file police officers were

23:20

going to. Refuse. To do this

23:23

this was leadership. This was city leadership

23:25

telling them know it's bad optics, these

23:27

are peaceful protesters And then of course

23:30

as soon as that became public that

23:32

the that Dc was refusing to help.

23:35

Clear. Out this disenchantment on

23:37

private property of does University,

23:39

Then the kids and the

23:41

other agitators got even more

23:43

emboldened. Say. First.

23:45

Pass a number of barricades and like

23:48

piled up the barricades and were over

23:50

running the police and they got even

23:52

more aggressive, even uglier and I'm just

23:54

like trying to figure out how it

23:56

could even. Have gotten to the point.

23:59

Where. the school said, hi Washington, D.C.,

24:01

we need your help. This

24:04

is a crime. And the city would even

24:07

feel like they had it in their authority

24:09

to decline. Like, I didn't

24:11

realize decline was even an option here.

24:14

Well, here's the situation

24:16

with Democrat politicians. A

24:19

significant percentage of the Democrat

24:21

base is now anti-Semitic. We

24:24

can go into a lot of detail about that,

24:26

but at the end of the day, they're hostile towards

24:28

Israel, they're hostile towards Jewish people

24:31

in general, and they

24:34

are expressing their views proudly.

24:37

And you see right now, the whole

24:39

Israel policy in the Biden administration is

24:42

being dictated by some

24:44

voters in the Detroit area on

24:46

how we can handle

24:48

Israel without alienating this block

24:52

of voters in the important

24:56

Michigan swing state. So the Democrat

24:58

party has a problem with a

25:00

significant percentage of the race being

25:02

anti-Semitic. And I think that every

25:04

Democrat politician, especially in the cities,

25:06

cities like Detroit, cities like Washington,

25:11

D.C., they realize they've got a problem

25:13

with their base and they don't want

25:15

to alienate their base. So the disagreement

25:17

was with Mayor Bowser and myself, and

25:20

I think I was

25:22

on the side of a world majority of Americans,

25:25

is you can't have people set

25:27

up tents and blockade

25:29

entrances into school buildings and require

25:31

university faculty to switch students who

25:33

pay a lot of money to

25:36

go to school there to go,

25:39

instead of having in-person learning, to virtual

25:41

learning. We went through that crap with

25:43

COVID, but you shouldn't have to

25:45

do that. Their civil rights were

25:48

being violated. And it's just sitting in

25:50

there. When you don't get tough

25:52

on criminals, they're going to continue to break the

25:54

law, and that's what's wrong with

25:56

Washington, D.C., in general. Fi

26:00

and put a finer point on the

26:02

resolution here because I saw images this

26:04

morning when I woke up. Oh, here's

26:07

the Quad at T W. It's clear

26:09

the statue is now clean. George Washington

26:11

is no longer being in swaddled basically

26:13

the bunch of up or you know,

26:15

Garber. what have you are that the

26:18

projections on the building that's gone, it's

26:20

all back to normal. That.

26:22

Could have been done a long time ago. They

26:24

refuse where you at the at the school level

26:27

and then at the city level and the only

26:29

reason they did it. Congressmen.

26:31

Is because. Not. All the

26:33

anti semitic financing. The. Not the

26:36

screaming about d a teens for the

26:38

university president, Not about any number of

26:40

the unlawful. Things. That were

26:42

happening. The dangerous things that were

26:45

happening on campus. The only reason

26:47

finally the city agreed to see

26:49

the the please from the university

26:51

was because you guys in Congress.

26:54

Threatened. To bring them. Up

26:56

to Capitol Hill and asked the people

26:58

declining to do their jobs why they

27:00

were refusing to do their jobs and

27:02

they were so scared. Of

27:04

accountability and try to give answers to

27:06

really questions that there's no good answer

27:08

to. They finally just knuckled under and

27:10

did the thing they should have done.

27:13

Days. If not weeks ago, but if

27:15

not for you guys controlling that committee

27:17

and having the the the Gavel. I.

27:20

Think this thing would still be going right? Year

27:22

anniversary. Correct. That's the only reason. A

27:26

and. It's it's it's

27:28

it's that one of the good.

27:31

Sides of of having a committee

27:33

with with the firebrands with the

27:35

members that better passionate and mono

27:38

people accountable lives. Back.

27:40

Committee attract media attention and if you're

27:43

a politician, Or you don't

27:45

wanna have to go on part

27:47

of that committee to begin with.

27:49

but then the to try to

27:51

defend the indefensible and is debatable

27:53

was weird in the police were

27:55

told to stay in vale so

27:57

I think that the American people

27:59

are are sick and tired of

28:01

the the lawlessness in these blue

28:03

cities. Have you got a problem

28:06

in Washington D C with crammed

28:08

with carjacking they're not is a

28:10

of soft on crime policies here.

28:12

The prosecutors who prosecute the politicians

28:14

warning that cater to the to

28:16

the criminals and and chata say

28:18

that any type of of. Law.

28:21

Law and Order is is racist and

28:23

and you know it's just it's very

28:25

first. I am glad the American people

28:28

are are rising up and I think

28:30

that the. Most. Important thing that

28:32

influences a lot of all this, it's for

28:34

better or worse is public opinion. And public

28:36

opinion was not on the side of of

28:38

my your browser, It was on the side

28:41

of the house Oversight committee and and loud

28:43

or. Cars When I do

28:45

want to ask you on the subject of defending

28:47

the indefensible. We've. Now seen the

28:49

by the ministration admit. That.

28:52

They have been withholding. Ammunition

28:55

Precision ammunition from the

28:57

Israelis. Because. They are

28:59

trying to pressure Israel from not finishing

29:01

off Hamas. In Rafah, Congress

29:04

just pass additional funding for

29:06

aid to Israel Israel's in

29:08

his existential war that Hamas

29:10

starter. And Israel has been

29:13

saying very clearly they are not going to

29:15

allow Hamas to survive the war that Hamas

29:17

started. But the bottom illustration is. Now.

29:20

Withholding. Critical arms

29:22

and ammunition Some them. Is that

29:24

something that you're committee has jurisdiction

29:26

to look into? Less than a

29:28

minute where we've tried in India.

29:30

Most of our committee overwhelmingly oppose

29:33

a majority of the foreign aid

29:35

you when you pass for and

29:37

I usually given Joe Biden Boy

29:39

check and he has proven trustworthy.

29:41

Did American people on anything much

29:44

less foreign aid is virtually cut

29:46

great, but you're seeing the anti

29:48

semitic wing of the Democrat party

29:50

dictate Israel policy. Which is gonna

29:52

be a disaster for over our foreign policy.

29:54

We're going to do everything we can, but

29:57

unfortunately we got too many republicans in Congress

29:59

too eager. to give Joe Biden a blank

30:01

check. We're gonna do everything we can to try to

30:03

help. Yeah, I'm all for aid. I'm all for aid

30:05

if it's not a blank check. And there has to

30:07

be oversight and

30:10

accountability, which is what you guys are in the business of

30:12

doing at your committee. James Comer, sir,

30:14

thank you so much for your time on The Guy

30:16

Benson Show. We

30:21

continue here on The Guy Benson Show. Very glad

30:23

to have you along. As

30:25

we broadcast from Anchorage, Alaska, it's a

30:28

pretty cool privilege. The next

30:30

couple of days. So a

30:32

few updates. I saw that the

30:34

Israelis have announced that they've eliminated

30:36

a Hamas commander, one of them, in

30:39

their ongoing war in Gaza. And

30:43

they're doing this apparently over the

30:45

objections and pressure of President Biden

30:48

right now. I know they're focusing

30:50

on Raffa, specifically the administration, in

30:52

their pressure campaign. I

30:55

think the American government

30:57

is happy when terrorist leaders get taken out

30:59

by Israel. But the fact

31:01

that it's a little bit ambiguous these days is

31:04

disturbing. It

31:06

should also be more disturbing, hopefully,

31:08

to Hamas and some of these

31:10

Islamist terrorists, that the

31:13

Israelis, not just with their

31:15

military might and capabilities, are

31:18

successfully finding and targeting and taking

31:20

out the leadership of Hamas. They're

31:23

also doing so in

31:26

other locations within the region. So

31:29

you'll recall a couple of weeks ago, the

31:31

Israelis obviously got very good intelligence

31:34

about a meeting that involved

31:36

some top Iranian officials inside

31:38

Syria. So the Israelis struck

31:41

and took them out, and

31:43

that's what eventually resulted in

31:46

Iran sending

31:48

that barrage of missiles and

31:50

drones to directly attack Israel

31:52

that fortunately failed. The

31:54

Israelis defended themselves very ably. We helped

31:57

them, which was a good move by

31:59

Biden. The Saudis, so did

32:01

the Brits, sort of the French sort of

32:03

the Jordanians. But I was a failure by

32:05

the Iranians for they tried. They.

32:07

Wanted a mass casualty events inside Israel

32:10

and they attacked Israel even though Biden

32:12

said jones because no one listens to

32:14

Bind when he says almost anything. maybe

32:16

especially don't. But. That

32:19

was. Not just a

32:21

brazen attack by the Israelis in

32:23

Syrian territory taking out top Iranian

32:25

officials within their I R D

32:28

C. It was. Once

32:30

again, the. A. Demonstration

32:32

of the Israelis ability. To

32:35

penetrate into foreign countries and take people

32:38

out and take them down when they

32:40

need to and knowing where they are.

32:43

I. There was also. The. Response to

32:46

the Iranian attack. Israel

32:48

made it very clear that they could

32:50

very much infiltrate. Iran defenses,

32:53

And. Really, I think spooked the regime. Like.

32:56

Oh yeah, We're attacking inside your country.

32:59

And. You didn't even see a comic. The.

33:01

Israelis I think are flexing muscles in a

33:03

way that they have to. Power.

33:06

Is what is understood in that region.

33:08

Not. A bunch of words. People

33:11

lie all the time. It

33:13

is wrong. exercises of power

33:15

and realpolitik, forcing people to

33:17

reckon with your ability to.

33:19

Inflict harm. And then you

33:21

go from there. I.

33:24

Mention this because there's another example of it.

33:27

A senior Hezbollah official.

33:29

Services. North. Of

33:31

Israel and Lebanon. This is the terrorist

33:34

organization run by Iran in the North.

33:37

A senior leader within Hezbollah. Was.

33:40

Taken out. Again, In

33:42

Syria this week, reportedly and there's

33:44

actually footage surveillance footage of the

33:47

moment that it happened. It.

33:50

Appears that the Israelis were able

33:52

to plant a bomb in the

33:54

car. That. He was in. Some.

33:58

reports suggested was inside luggage.

34:02

And this SUV kind of makes a

34:04

turn and starts to go down a

34:06

road and then boom, the doors come

34:08

off, there's a big flash, a plume

34:10

of smoke, and in an instant this

34:12

guy is eliminated from the battlefield.

34:15

And you can say, oh well, good for the

34:17

Israelis, check the box, this is a really

34:19

bad guy, they killed a terrorist, bravo to

34:22

Mossad or whoever else was involved in it.

34:25

True, I endorse all of that, cosign,

34:28

but I think this is also a worrisome

34:31

signal for terrorists in that

34:34

neighborhood and a

34:36

very useful worrisome signal. The

34:39

Israelis couldn't have done this all

34:41

by themselves. They

34:44

couldn't have figured out independently

34:47

what car this Hezbollah

34:50

official would be in, in Syria,

34:53

without inside help,

34:55

without really good

34:57

intelligence. This

34:59

was not a drone strike or

35:01

a missile strike from the sky,

35:03

this was something that was set

35:05

on or in or under this

35:08

car. So

35:10

not only do the bad guys have

35:13

to worry about Israel exacting,

35:16

I'd say, totally righteous fire on

35:18

them and ending their lives in

35:20

an instant, they

35:23

have to look over their shoulders and wonder, how

35:26

are the Israelis finding us? Who's

35:28

helping them? And

35:31

that kind of dissent

35:33

and discord and mistrust within

35:36

the ranks of these terrorist organizations,

35:38

some of which have been obviously

35:40

penetrated by Israeli intelligence

35:42

to some extent, that's another level

35:45

of victory for the

35:47

Israelis. It's a huge achievement. And

35:50

there are some additional figures, I would say, some of

35:52

whom have been hanging out in the lap of luxury

35:54

in Qatar, being harbored by that

35:56

regime, Top Now

35:59

multi-gazillion. Billionaire leaders of Hamas while

36:01

they're people suffer in Gaza, they been

36:03

living in like five star hotels. I

36:05

think some of those people probably watch

36:08

a video like this on the internet.

36:11

And get. A. Bit of a.

36:13

Pit. In their salaries. A sinking feeling.

36:17

Same goes for Sin War. They.

36:20

Might still be walking the earth

36:22

today. After October

36:24

seventh. The. Israelis have long

36:26

memories you think about. Operation.

36:30

Wrath. Of God After Black September. The.

36:33

Israelis will do everything within their power.

36:36

To make sure that they do not walk the

36:39

earth much longer. And you never

36:41

know when they're going to strike or

36:43

with whose help they will do so,

36:45

but they are hell bent on doing

36:47

so. And

36:49

in that pursuit. I.

36:52

Say congratulations on this apparent latest

36:54

strike and Godspeed for future once!

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wanna talk about the border crisis. Because.

38:27

It's something that we have, I think,

38:29

say and rigorously covered for years. But.

38:32

Admittedly, it is gotten a little bit

38:34

less attention here and elsewhere in recent

38:36

weeks because, ah, there's been a couple

38:38

other stories on the front burner, but

38:40

that doesn't mean. That. The border

38:43

crisis has gone away or is

38:45

less of a problem or is

38:47

not inflicting harm. It

38:49

is actively still inflicting harm.

38:52

On. Our National sovereignty, On our national

38:54

security, On our public safety. On

38:57

basic fairness for people who. Do.

38:59

Things the right way. Here's.

39:02

A story out of the State of Florida.

39:05

And it's horrible. It

39:07

is yet another unfortunately sickening

39:09

story. That. We've become

39:12

somewhat accustomed to. Which. Should

39:14

never be acceptable. I.

39:16

Always say that highlighting heinous

39:18

crimes allegedly committed by illegal

39:21

immigrants is not an excuse

39:23

is not a justification. For.

39:26

Demonizing Immigrants broadly. That's.

39:29

Wrong and we won't do that. What?

39:31

It is. These. Stories.

39:34

What? It does represent talking about them.

39:37

Is highlighting a reality that there

39:39

are people in this country with

39:41

no right to be here. Who

39:44

broke our laws to come here, who

39:46

have been enabled in doing so. Really,

39:49

in a lot of ways encouraged and

39:51

incentivized to do so. Who's.

39:53

Then attack and hurt and

39:55

harm and kill in some

39:58

cases. americans And

40:01

every time that happens, every

40:03

time someone who shouldn't be here, has no

40:05

right to be here, commits

40:08

a crime like this, it is

40:10

preventable. That

40:12

act, that

40:15

betrayal, really, that

40:18

violation is

40:20

and was preventable under

40:23

our laws. It is lawlessness

40:25

that begets more lawlessness. The

40:30

minor lawbreaking

40:32

– I don't think it's so

40:34

minor, but it's treated that way – of crossing

40:36

the border illegally, then automatically,

40:38

inevitably, increases

40:41

the likelihood of additional

40:43

lawbreaking, including from some people who were

40:45

very bad. I think most people

40:47

who come to this country – I also say

40:49

this repeatedly – just want a better life for

40:52

themselves, for their family. They want to earn

40:54

some money, maybe send some back home. Things

40:57

aren't so great back home. I get that. We

41:01

can all be empathetic to that. It doesn't mean they have a right to

41:03

do it. It doesn't mean they have a right to be here. They don't.

41:05

There's a legal means of doing

41:08

this. They don't avail themselves of

41:10

that, because they've been

41:12

taught, they've been trained, especially by

41:14

this administration, that's for suckers.

41:17

That's for chumps. Why would

41:19

you go through the lengthy, arduous

41:22

process of legal immigration to

41:24

the United States when

41:26

you can just break the law with basically no

41:28

consequences and do whatever you want and

41:30

be led into the country? Overwhelming likelihood of

41:32

that. That's the

41:35

human incentive, and people respond to incentives.

41:39

Nevertheless, it's

41:41

wrong, it's illegal, and

41:43

it shouldn't be allowed. And

41:46

then the second part of this

41:49

is, because we do not have

41:51

control of our border, because it's

41:53

a free-for-all, because in a

41:55

lot of ways the borders are open and you

41:57

can call what has happened over the last three-plus

41:59

years. years an invasion, 10

42:01

million or so illegal

42:03

crossings, including almost 2 million known Godaways.

42:05

I beat that drum all the time.

42:08

These are people we have no idea who they are. Some

42:12

of them we encounter them, we vet them. I

42:15

mean, major air quotes there. The vetting

42:17

obviously often fails terribly. What

42:19

are they even able to do? Then

42:22

they hand someone a card and say, okay, come back for

42:24

your trial in 2029. Good luck.

42:29

That's a lot of people, some of whom get into more

42:31

trouble. Then there are the people who pay the cartels who

42:33

run the border. On the Mexican side,

42:35

the cartels run the show. This

42:37

is a very lucrative endeavor for them. So

42:40

if you're from a country that might raise

42:44

red flags in the United States, or if you

42:46

have a known criminal record, you might have to

42:48

pay the cartels a lot more

42:50

money to sneak into the country, especially if you're

42:52

going to try to not get caught. A lot

42:54

of these people want to get caught, surrender, catch

42:57

and release. That's the plan that they have, and it's a

42:59

good plan. It's an awful plan for the

43:01

United States for sovereignty. It's a good plan for them. But

43:05

the people who realize that might not

43:07

work out so well for them, they

43:09

dig deeper into their pockets to

43:11

pay the cartels more to become Godaways.

43:15

And within both of these populations, there are

43:17

going to be dangerous, bad

43:20

people. No

43:22

reflection on how immigrants are as a whole,

43:25

but still it is

43:28

crazy, it is reckless, it

43:30

is deeply irresponsible for the U.S. government

43:32

to be opening the floodgates the way

43:35

that Biden has, knowing that

43:37

some percentage, even if it's a small

43:39

percentage, will be traffickers

43:41

of humans and

43:45

arms and drugs, purveyors

43:48

of misery and violence, gang

43:50

members, cartel members, criminals,

43:55

possible terrorists. There's going to be a group of

43:57

them. And the more people you let in across

43:59

the board, the more

44:01

of the bad people are going to get in

44:03

with the flow, with the incoming tide. And

44:07

by the way, the more you tie up border

44:09

patrol to be glorified pencil pushers,

44:13

the less energy, the

44:15

less resources, the less manpower

44:17

they will have to actually

44:19

patrol the border, to stop the

44:21

bad people from coming in. So

44:24

it's a spiraling cycle that has been going

44:26

on for years. There's a reason

44:28

why Joe Biden's approval rating is 30, 40

44:32

points underwater on this overall

44:34

issue set. It should be. It should

44:36

be even lower, frankly. And that

44:38

brings us to the story that I mentioned just a moment

44:40

ago out of Florida. This is from

44:42

the Daily Mail. A

44:45

20-year-old illegal migrant has

44:47

been arrested for allegedly kidnapping

44:50

and raping an 11-year-old girl

44:52

outside her Florida home. The

44:55

Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office identified this

44:57

man as the girl's attacker – his

44:59

name is Perez Lopez, that's the last name – claiming

45:03

he forced her into his white van

45:05

where the alleged sexual assault took place.

45:10

So apparently the girl's mother was frantically looking for

45:12

her and then caught a glimpse of her

45:14

and went – was like banging on the side

45:16

of this van. Can you imagine this

45:19

nightmare? And after getting caught,

45:21

the guy basically copped to it. The

45:24

mother called the police. The

45:27

police came. The guy tried to escape. But

45:29

they tracked him down, and he is now

45:31

detained. He's under arrest. Now,

45:35

this man is from

45:37

Guatemala. He left

45:39

that Central American country sometime in January.

45:42

So this is 2024. He

45:46

came here this year. This

45:48

isn't someone from

45:51

before Joe Biden. This isn't even from

45:53

the early Biden days. This is after

45:55

years of people blowing

45:57

the whistle and sounding the alarm. about

46:00

these problems, about

46:02

the risks associated with

46:05

the border crisis, and Biden doing absolutely nothing,

46:07

including lying that his hands are tied. Oh,

46:10

I need Congress to pass laws all of

46:12

a sudden. I can't do

46:14

anything unilaterally. He does things unilaterally that

46:16

he's absolutely not allowed to do, like

46:18

on student loan so-called forgiveness. But

46:21

we know all he has to do is undo

46:23

what he did at the start of his administration

46:25

vis-a-vis Trump. He

46:28

ripped up dozens of executive actions from

46:30

Trump to just flip over to the

46:32

other side, reflexively because you can't have

46:34

Trump policies, even the ones

46:36

that were working. He can just hit reverse

46:38

on any number of those and

46:41

make this a lot better overnight. It's not

46:43

perfect. Congress, I think, does need to fix

46:45

things eventually in a number of capacities. But

46:47

a lot of this could

46:50

get much better overnight. He refuses to

46:52

do it. He continues to refuse to

46:54

do it. And

46:57

after all of that refusal and all the dereliction of duty, people

47:00

are still coming into the country now, this year,

47:02

in the election year, and

47:05

yes, some of them are bad and allegedly doing

47:07

very bad things like this man. He's like,

47:11

all right, I don't like it here in Guatemala anymore. January

47:14

2024 came to the United

47:16

States, crossed from Mexico, where he, quote – this is from the

47:18

story again – reportedly

47:20

surrendered to Border Patrol and was given a

47:22

court date in 2027, after which he was

47:25

released. So

47:30

he comes up from Central America,

47:33

crosses the border from Mexico, surrenders

47:36

himself. That's the game plan,

47:38

as I noted. That's the roadmap

47:41

for millions of them. Surrender. Hi,

47:43

I'm here. I'm claiming asylum. And

47:48

the Biden administration says, okay, here's your court

47:50

date, in this case three years from now.

47:53

Then he somehow made his way to the

47:55

state of Florida, somehow acquired a white van,

47:57

apparently, and then kidnapped him. according

48:00

to officials, an 11-year-old

48:02

girl and raped her in

48:05

Florida. Now

48:10

this is one of those

48:12

aforementioned absolutely avoidable

48:14

crimes. In

48:17

my mind, these kinds of

48:19

violent crimes are always horrible.

48:22

They are worse, they are more outrageous,

48:25

they are more unacceptable when committed by

48:27

people who shouldn't be here at all.

48:29

I know some people have trouble grasping

48:32

that concept. They think it's

48:34

xenophobic or racist to

48:36

make the observation. When

48:39

illegal immigrants do something really bad

48:42

and hurt people including children and

48:44

you say it's extra bad because they shouldn't be

48:46

here, it's like oh that's a detail you shouldn't

48:48

mention. No, we should mention it. We must mention

48:51

it. Because you know who won't mention it? Willie

48:53

DeBette? Our president.

48:57

President Joe Biden had

48:59

to be heckled. And I'm not for heckling people at the State

49:01

of the Union or in speeches,

49:03

I don't think that's good for him. I

49:06

will say I don't think he would have mentioned

49:08

Lake and Riley's name ever, even getting it wrong

49:10

the way he did, he called her Lincoln, but

49:13

he was bullied, heckled into mentioning

49:15

her name, that nursing student murdered

49:18

on the University of Georgia campus

49:20

by allegedly an illegal immigrant who

49:22

was paroled into this country by

49:25

Joe Biden and his policies,

49:27

then went to New York, committed

49:29

additional crimes, got cut loose because

49:32

of the policies in New York, deep

49:35

blue soft on crime policies, then

49:37

went to the next sanctuary jurisdiction

49:39

in Athens, Georgia and that's

49:41

where he struck and killed, bludgeoning to

49:43

death, lake and wrongly, disfiguring her

49:45

skull. That is something that Joe Biden did

49:48

not want to mention. Tried to avoid it,

49:50

then he got heckled publicly, so then he

49:52

talked about it, off

49:54

script at the State of the Union and remember,

49:58

he described that illegal as

50:00

illegal. And the reaction

50:03

within his party, within his

50:05

tribe, within his coalition was not, my goodness, what

50:07

a horrible thing that happened to Lake and Riley.

50:09

Maybe we should get rid of these sanctuary policies.

50:11

Maybe the border crisis is out of control. We

50:13

should do something about it. Maybe

50:15

we should crack down in a way that

50:18

actually makes sense. No. Their reaction was, how

50:20

dare he say illegal?

50:22

Because no human is illegal.

50:25

You know what's illegal? Crossing

50:27

the border illegally, committing

50:29

multiple crimes, and then murdering someone

50:31

in addition. That's illegal. And the

50:34

president used that word, and at first he

50:36

refused to apologize for it. But

50:39

like a day later on MSNBC, I

50:41

guess his left-wing, younger staff got to

50:43

him, and he apologized. Oh,

50:46

yeah, he didn't mean to say illegal. It should have

50:48

been undocumented, which is also literally

50:51

inaccurate. These people are not, in many

50:54

cases, undocumented. They're given documents, court documents, show up in

50:57

five years. They're just here illegally. No,

50:59

I shouldn't have said, I didn't mean illegal.

51:02

He said he would never disrespect someone

51:04

by calling them illegal. Really? Not even a

51:06

murderer? An illegal immigrant murderer?

51:08

We're not going to disrespect that person? Well,

51:10

no, because illegal immigrants built the country, he

51:13

said in that same interview. So

51:15

it was like pulling teeth to get the

51:17

president to even say the name incorrectly, Lake

51:19

and Riley. The

51:22

idea that he's going to comment about an

51:24

11-year-old girl being sexually assaulted in

51:26

Florida, I mean, it's like virtually zero chance. And

51:29

if so, maybe he will use the

51:31

new euphemism that his team has been using

51:33

for illegal immigrants, newcomer. And

51:35

in fact, this man was a very newcomer. He

51:38

showed up just this year, and

51:42

within a matter of months apparently, years

51:44

before his court date, just couldn't help

51:47

himself and went and allegedly raped

51:49

a middle school aged girl. That's

51:52

a newcomer. I'll leave you

51:55

with this thought, because I've seen our colleague Bill

51:57

Malugin posting about still the huge influx

52:00

of illegal immigrants from China, Chinese

52:02

nationals coming across the border, just

52:05

the ones that have been apprehended that we know of. That

52:07

is a drumbeat that keeps going. And

52:11

in Texas, where they've slowed the

52:13

flow a bit, people are heading and

52:15

the cartels are moving west to Democrat-run

52:17

states, Texas Department

52:19

of Public Safety, in

52:21

their border enforcement efforts, just

52:24

in the last couple of days, I see between May 4th

52:26

and May 7th, said

52:28

smugglers apprehended an illegal immigrant

52:30

that was wanted for murder. That's

52:33

someone that they were able to nab. There

52:36

was a post that 12 illegal immigrants were

52:38

arrested for criminal trespass under

52:41

Operation Lone Star, and within that group,

52:43

one man was from Lebanon and had

52:45

an active alert against him. Risk

52:48

of a foreign subject of interest, that's what that was

52:50

called from the Middle East. You

52:54

wonder, without Texas trying to do what it

52:57

can to hold the line on this stuff,

52:59

over the objections of the Biden administration, over

53:01

the lawsuits of the

53:03

Biden administration, this would be worse. And

53:05

some of these people that I just mentioned would

53:08

be now waltzing into the country, maybe

53:10

with a court summons way down the line.

53:12

If we're lucky, a

53:15

disaster. It's still unfolding

53:18

every day at the southern border. It

53:21

will not get significantly, substantively better under

53:23

this president. In fact, if he wins

53:25

again, it'll probably get worse because they

53:27

will feel emboldened and

53:29

justified. With

53:32

a mandate to make it worse, that will be

53:35

what their brain does. So

53:37

voters have to decide what message they want to send

53:39

to the powers that be

53:41

in November. The

53:43

Guy Benson Show returns after this break. Please

53:46

stay tuned. Not the same

53:48

talking point here, the Guy Benson

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Show. on

54:00

the city of Chicago and the failing

54:02

unpopular mayor who has a new plan

54:04

on housing migrants, the locals not too

54:06

thrilled it would seem, NBC 5 cut

54:08

21. Strong

54:10

reactions tonight from residents after alerting Mayor Brandon

54:13

Johnson is considering plans to open a new

54:15

temporary migrant shelter in their south side neighborhood.

54:17

And he don't know where to put him,

54:21

why would you put him in our neighborhood? Why

54:23

don't we go by your house? All of that money

54:25

that he's given them, we've been bagging

54:27

for years. We've lived here our

54:29

whole life, we have a lot of bad

54:31

things that happen here already, we do not

54:33

need this, we just do not. Located just

54:36

blocks away from guaranteed raid fields, the proposed

54:38

building near Canau and Pershing is in the

54:40

city's 11th ward. Look at where

54:42

it's at, it's hidden in the

54:44

back. Why is that a

54:46

good location? We have no amenities here as it

54:48

is. Alderman Nicole Lee issued this

54:50

letter to constituents yesterday saying she was

54:52

notified earlier this week and met with

54:55

the mayor on Thursday. She says the

54:57

city wants to move migrants staying at

54:59

the Standard Club near the Dirksen Federal

55:01

Building to her ward before the Democratic

55:04

National Convention. This is just insane, it

55:06

doesn't make sense. Keep them

55:08

downtown, keep them, I don't know, I mean this

55:10

is not our problem. Not

55:13

in our backyard. City of

55:16

Chicago hosted the DNC this summer.

55:18

Brandon Johnson is the mayor

55:20

you guys elected. So congratulations

55:22

on that. Though it seems

55:25

like a lot of the voters are thinking these days along

55:27

the lines of, let's go Brandon if you catch my drift.

55:30

Mark Tieson joins us. When we come back on the

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free and on demand when

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the show. Joining us

56:01

now from our studio back in D.C.

56:03

is Mark Thiessen, columnist of The Washington

56:05

Post, Fox News contributor and former chief

56:08

presidential speech writer. Mark, good

56:10

to have you back. Good to be

56:12

with you, Guy. I'm sitting in your chair.

56:14

I feel hugely powerful. Oh

56:17

my goodness. Well, just don't leave

56:19

any rangers here. Well, you left

56:21

your Brodur statue. You're very vulnerable. Well,

56:24

I mean, this is the greatest of all times.

56:26

I'm going to wave a stick in front of

56:28

his face like John Avery. Well,

56:31

I mean, he'd probably win anyway, but

56:33

I will say your team needs 16

56:35

wins to win the

56:38

Stanley Cup in this NHL

56:40

postseason, the Stanley Cup playoffs. And

56:43

they've collected six of those 16 wins

56:45

so far, and they're looking

56:47

like they're rolling right now. They

56:50

are. They're the only undefeated team

56:52

in the Stanley Cup playoffs right now. That

56:54

was a huge win last night. I

56:56

love Jacob Truba. I love Trojak.

57:00

And what a celebration that was. Awesome.

57:02

Yeah. Well, double overtime, sudden

57:05

death, victory for the Rangers to go up 2-0

57:07

in that series against a good Carolina team.

57:09

Yeah. Very good team. Obviously, I

57:11

wish you nothing but the opposite of the

57:13

best. So Mark, I want to ask you

57:15

about a couple topics here. Starting last night

57:18

in the state of Indiana, kind

57:20

of not that big of a deal. It's

57:22

the Republican primary. People are looking at some,

57:25

you know, House races and who's going to

57:27

be the nominee in various seats. At the

57:29

presidential level, you know, it's over. Nikki Haley's

57:31

been out since early March. It's going to be

57:33

Donald Trump and all of that. Nevertheless,

57:37

among Republican voters in

57:40

the red state of Indiana last night, and we've

57:42

seen this now in a number of places since

57:44

Nikki got out, almost 22 percent of

57:46

the Republican electorate

57:49

voted for her, even though the

57:51

race is over and she's been

57:53

gone, sending a message with their

57:55

votes in the primary. And

57:58

I know that there's been a lot of attention. paid to

58:00

Joe Biden and the undecided

58:03

or undeclared, or

58:05

they've got their different labels they

58:07

put on it, uncommitted people doing

58:09

a protest against Joe Biden over

58:11

Gaza, there's still a bit

58:13

of an issue on the Republican side where a

58:15

lot of voters want to go on

58:18

the record saying, we are not in favor of Trump

58:20

as the nominee, which is not to say they're not

58:22

going to eventually vote for him in November, but the

58:25

voices of these people within the party,

58:27

it's not 7%. There's a lot of

58:30

people, I think these voters matter

58:32

and the Republicans in the Trump campaign really

58:34

have to pay attention to that. 100%,

58:37

look, he can't win the presidency without the Haley voters. I

58:40

mean, he lost in 2020 by, I

58:42

can give you the exact number, 42,941

58:45

votes in three states. His

58:48

base is behind him. They're going to be behind

58:50

him. They're going to turn out. He's got to

58:52

expand his base. He's got to reach out to

58:55

Trump's skeptical people. One of the things

58:57

we're seeing right now is that there's

58:59

a growing Trump nostalgia in the country

59:01

because things were better under Trump, right?

59:04

Joe Biden promised to end the chaos. He's

59:06

called Trump an agent of chaos. Well, all we

59:09

see around us is chaos. We see chaos on

59:11

campus. We see chaos at the border.

59:13

We see chaos in the Middle East. We see chaos

59:15

in Europe. War is raging on two continents. And so

59:18

people look back on the Trump era, ironically,

59:20

as memories fade of the reasons why people

59:22

found him offensive, they look at it and

59:24

say, things were pretty good back then. It

59:26

was pretty normal. The economy was

59:29

doing well. The border was under control. Nobody

59:31

was invading anybody else. People respected us. People

59:33

feared us. Maybe we should go back to

59:35

that. But I don't like Trump so much.

59:37

I don't like his mouth. I don't like

59:39

the way he talks. I don't like the

59:41

way he says. He's got to convince those

59:43

people who liked his policies but don't like

59:45

him to support him or

59:47

else he's not going to win the presidency. And

59:50

so I have yet to see a concerted effort

59:52

on his part to reach out to the Haley

59:54

voters and not just the Haley voters, but the

59:56

independents, the swing voters in these states who are

59:58

going to decide the election. He doesn't want

1:00:00

it. And by the way, Mark, you know, I

1:00:02

mean, the Haley voters, some of them are obviously

1:00:04

committed fans of Nikki Haley. Others

1:00:06

are just disaffected conservatives and Republicans who

1:00:08

don't want it to be Trump again.

1:00:11

And she's the last person left on the ballot,

1:00:13

so it's sort of like channeling the protest into

1:00:16

her and checking that box for now. How

1:00:18

does that reach out look? How

1:00:20

does the winning over that

1:00:23

crowd materialize and is part

1:00:25

of that picture, the

1:00:27

vice presidential selection? 100%,

1:00:29

so first of all, the rule of politics is if

1:00:31

you want somebody to vote, you have to ask for

1:00:33

it. So he should make a

1:00:36

concerted effort to explicitly reach out to people

1:00:38

who voted for Nikki Haley and ask them

1:00:40

to come into his coalition. Two,

1:00:42

he has to campaign as

1:00:45

somebody who is going – it's

1:00:47

ironic, but because Trump won in

1:00:49

2016 as an agent of disruption,

1:00:51

right? Well, the last thing people want right

1:00:53

now is disruption. They

1:00:55

voted for Biden because he promised to end the chaos and said

1:00:57

he gave us more chaos. And so now

1:00:59

Trump needs to come in ironically

1:01:02

as not the agent of disruption, but the

1:01:04

agent of return to normalcy, so

1:01:06

when the economy was good, when peace

1:01:08

was in the world and all the rest of that. And so he

1:01:10

needs to talk about those things. You

1:01:12

know, stop having rallies where you

1:01:14

talk about the January 6th protestors

1:01:16

who are in jail as hostages

1:01:18

and then patriots and promising to

1:01:20

pardon them. Take

1:01:23

a vice president who people will look at it and

1:01:26

say, yeah, I could see that person as succeeding him.

1:01:28

I could see that person as being a president. That's

1:01:30

a normal Republican. It

1:01:32

convinced people that your election is not

1:01:34

going to empower the lunatic fringe of

1:01:37

the GOP, the Matt Gaetz and the

1:01:39

Marjorie Taylor-Greens of the world. There's

1:01:41

a lot of things that he needs to do

1:01:44

and can do to persuade those people that

1:01:46

he's going to give them the things they

1:01:48

liked about the first Trump term. Yep.

1:01:52

Meanwhile, he is on trial.

1:01:55

He's been on trial for weeks in New York City.

1:01:57

We've been covering it. We've had experts on legal

1:01:59

analysis. And yesterday we had Andy McCarthy and

1:02:02

Byron York here. Mark, I know

1:02:04

that you, I think, are very

1:02:06

intellectually honest about Trump, and sometimes

1:02:08

it drives Trump and his supporters crazy. I

1:02:11

try to do the same thing, and

1:02:13

I have any number of criticisms

1:02:15

and critiques of Trump. This

1:02:17

trial in New York – and he always claims

1:02:20

victimhood when things don't go his way, and it's

1:02:22

rigged, and things are so unfair. And

1:02:25

sometimes that's just like ego-soothing and

1:02:27

reflexive self-pity, which is not a

1:02:29

good look, but sometimes he's right.

1:02:31

This is a grotesquely unfair,

1:02:35

rigged trial, in my opinion, and

1:02:37

the more we learn about it,

1:02:39

the more we see who's involved in

1:02:41

the prosecution, the more we watch

1:02:43

the decisions by this Biden donor

1:02:45

judge, the more rigged it looks. It's

1:02:49

helping him enormously. I mean it's helping him

1:02:51

in two ways. First of all, it

1:02:53

is – it has – they're waging this lawfare. I

1:02:56

like to point out that he has 91 charges

1:02:59

against him at the federal, state, and local

1:03:01

level. Charles Manson had 10, right? This is

1:03:03

the level – and that's just the charges.

1:03:05

Then there's the civil suits that are designed

1:03:07

to bankrupt him. Then there's the efforts in

1:03:10

the courts to kick him off the ballot

1:03:12

using the 14th Amendment, which the Supreme Court

1:03:14

had knocked down. They're

1:03:16

using every tool of lawfare they possibly can

1:03:18

to go after him, and when they do that,

1:03:20

they're not going after him. They're denying the

1:03:22

American people and his supporters the right to vote

1:03:24

for him. They're trying to stop him from being

1:03:26

able to run for president. And so

1:03:29

it's an assault not just on Trump. It's an

1:03:31

assault on our democracy. It's an assault on the

1:03:33

75 million people or so who voted for him

1:03:35

and want to vote for him again. So

1:03:38

it's helping him in that sense, and now

1:03:41

he's a victim, right? They

1:03:44

saw him as the man behind, the perpetrator behind, January

1:03:46

6th. Now he's the victim of their lawfare, and so

1:03:48

it makes him more sympathetic. And then the

1:03:50

other thing it's doing is it's forcing him into a basement

1:03:52

campaign. Joe

1:03:54

Biden ran one in 2020 by hiding in the

1:03:57

basement and letting it be about Trump. He

1:04:00

wants to do that again. But right

1:04:02

now, it's Joe Biden who's out in the news

1:04:04

every day, and Donald Trump's sitting in a courtroom

1:04:06

with a gag order and he can't talk, except

1:04:08

for when he comes out once a day to

1:04:10

make a statement, and even then he's constrained. So

1:04:13

there was a poll in the New York Times that said something

1:04:15

like 56% or something like

1:04:19

that of Americans say that Trump has either never

1:04:22

said anything to offend them or hasn't said anything

1:04:24

lately. Why is that? Because

1:04:26

he's in a courtroom. He can't say anything.

1:04:28

So a basement strategy that allows the election

1:04:30

to be a referendum on Biden is actually

1:04:32

a good thing for Donald Trump, and the

1:04:35

legal warfare on him is actually backfiring

1:04:37

and forcing him into a basement strategy that

1:04:39

he might not be exercising otherwise. Mark

1:04:43

Tiesen, in less than a minute, the

1:04:45

current president's position on Israel,

1:04:47

the withholding and pausing of

1:04:49

ammunition delivery, the pressure campaigns,

1:04:51

the apparent backstabbing with this

1:04:53

fake deal with Hamas, it's

1:04:55

nasty stuff. I just want to get your very quick

1:04:58

reaction. So why are the

1:05:00

protests continuing? Why is there going to be

1:05:02

a huge protest in Chicago at the convention? Because they're working.

1:05:05

I mean, Joe Biden supports the goals of the

1:05:07

protesters. He may not support the anti-Semitic calls, the

1:05:10

language they use, but what are they

1:05:12

demanding? They're demanding an immediate permanent ceasefire.

1:05:15

What is Joe Biden pushing Israel to do? Have

1:05:18

an immediate permanent ceasefire. He wants to end the war.

1:05:20

If Israel announced tomorrow we're done, he'd be

1:05:23

celebrating. That would be the best thing that

1:05:25

ever happened to him. So

1:05:27

he supports the goals of the protesters. So

1:05:30

why would, if you're a protester, you're looking

1:05:32

and saying, I'm putting pressure on Biden, Biden's

1:05:34

putting pressure on Netanyahu, and it's having an

1:05:36

effect on the ground. Why should I stop?

1:05:38

I'll just escalate. I'm going to do it in Chicago. As

1:05:41

K.T. McFarlane said yesterday, it's not

1:05:44

about what's in Israel's interest or America's

1:05:46

interest. It's Joe Biden's political interest that's

1:05:48

driving this, which I think is a

1:05:50

very sick thing given the stakes and given

1:05:53

the dynamics in that region

1:05:55

and in that country. Mark Tiesen, Fox

1:05:57

News contributor Washington Post columnist and former

1:05:59

chief of speechwriter, President George W. Bush

1:06:01

on the Guy Benson Show back in DC.

1:06:03

Mark, thanks so much. Thank you. Quick break,

1:06:05

we'll be right back. In

1:06:08

the swamp, not of the swamp,

1:06:10

Guy Benson. Welcome

1:06:18

back, it's the Guy Benson Show. So

1:06:21

when I was growing up as

1:06:24

a little kid overseas, I was at Hong

1:06:26

Kong during the years where

1:06:28

one might become a Cub

1:06:30

Scout. So I in

1:06:32

fact became a Cub Scout. This

1:06:35

was Boy Scouts of America. Right,

1:06:38

the chapter in Hong Kong, there were

1:06:40

American expats over there. And

1:06:42

my parents, I think, wanted me to get

1:06:44

some sort of education about an American

1:06:47

way of life. I remember they taught us to

1:06:49

fold the flag, they taught us the Pledge of Allegiance,

1:06:51

all those kinds of things. I

1:06:53

had my little uniform, I was a Tiger Cub, I

1:06:55

believe, is what it was called

1:06:58

in kindergarten. Then I became, was

1:07:00

it a wolf? Wolf Scout, something

1:07:02

like that. Wolf, bear,

1:07:04

and then I quit before weebelows.

1:07:08

I think weebelows stood for weebie loyal scouts and

1:07:10

I found that odd and I didn't really

1:07:12

love camping

1:07:14

or outdoorsy stuff. That's just how

1:07:17

I've always been. So

1:07:19

I moved away from Boy Scouts, but I enjoyed

1:07:21

some of my scouting experience as a little kid.

1:07:24

Boy Scouts of America, halfway around

1:07:26

the globe, learning about, in

1:07:28

some ways, just like America, American

1:07:31

life and doing

1:07:34

the same kinds of activities that kids my

1:07:36

age were doing back home. So

1:07:39

I valued that. I

1:07:42

have some friends who went all the way through

1:07:44

and became Eagle Scouts, which I think is an

1:07:46

amazing achievement. In

1:07:48

any case, the Boy Scouts of

1:07:50

America have gone through some turbulent

1:07:53

waters, there have been controversies, politics

1:07:55

has seeped in, and then the

1:07:57

culmination of all of this and it just

1:07:59

feels like It's a sign of the times in

1:08:02

2024, a post

1:08:04

on social media just yesterday

1:08:07

from the Boy Scouts of America. And

1:08:09

I'll just quote the tweet. They had a whole press

1:08:11

release, but the top

1:08:14

line is right here. Quote, the

1:08:16

Boy Scouts of America today announced it

1:08:18

will rebrand to Scouting

1:08:20

America, reflecting the

1:08:23

organization's ongoing commitment to welcome

1:08:25

every youth and family in

1:08:27

America to experience the

1:08:29

benefits of Scouting. So

1:08:33

I'm just

1:08:36

instinctively on a

1:08:38

gut level against this. And

1:08:41

I'm not trying to say that

1:08:43

anyone should be excluded or make this

1:08:45

about trans politics or anything like that.

1:08:49

I just think overall, 99 plus

1:08:53

percent of kids are

1:08:55

boys or girls and understand themselves

1:08:57

to be those things. And

1:09:01

they're different. And

1:09:03

there are different needs at different

1:09:05

ages for the two sexes, broadly

1:09:09

speaking. There's

1:09:11

a reason why there's Boy Scouts for the

1:09:13

boys, Girl Scouts for the girls, and

1:09:15

there's a lot of history and tradition there. But

1:09:19

I guess now the Boy Scouts have

1:09:22

decided being only for

1:09:24

boys is not

1:09:26

really the mission anymore, even though

1:09:28

it was literally in their name

1:09:30

forever. So they're

1:09:34

ditching the boy in Boy

1:09:36

Scouts and just becoming Scouting America.

1:09:38

And then it's like, come one, come

1:09:40

all. And I've seen some people,

1:09:42

and I get it, it's like, oh, there are

1:09:45

some girls who don't really desire

1:09:47

what the Girl Scouts offer, and they might

1:09:49

want to become Eagle Scouts, and that's a

1:09:51

badass thing, and they should have that opportunity.

1:09:54

They're kicking butt. I don't

1:09:56

know why the Girl Scouts can't have an equivalent

1:09:58

of that, and maybe they do. do, but if

1:10:01

they maybe have like next

1:10:03

level up, if there

1:10:05

are certain girls who want to go full Eagle

1:10:07

Scout, I'm fine. If that's

1:10:09

the kind of like civic minded, outdoorsy,

1:10:13

self-reliant attitude you've got as a girl, I

1:10:15

think there should be some way to accommodate

1:10:17

that and say go for it. That's

1:10:21

a great idea. I'm

1:10:24

not sure why that needs to

1:10:26

include or entail just

1:10:29

eliminating the Boy Scouts of

1:10:31

America as it has existed forever and

1:10:34

making it just like, oh, it's more inclusive for everyone.

1:10:38

I think inclusivity generally is a

1:10:40

good thing, but

1:10:43

there are reasons why there

1:10:45

are fraternities and sororities, gender

1:10:49

specific organizations. Sometimes you just

1:10:51

want to fraternize

1:10:53

or fellowship or

1:10:56

spend time out in

1:10:58

nature or whatever with

1:11:01

your group. I

1:11:05

think that's also fine and healthy. I'm

1:11:09

not like going to go on a massive

1:11:11

screed about this. The

1:11:14

Scouts are not that deeply embedded

1:11:16

in my personal history where I'm

1:11:19

going to exert a lot of energy on

1:11:21

this. I just feel as someone

1:11:24

who believes certain traditions should be left

1:11:26

alone, let the

1:11:28

Boy Scouts be for boys. Let

1:11:30

the Girl Scouts be for girls. If

1:11:33

there are certain exceptions or exemptions

1:11:35

where individual

1:11:37

people want to pursue something

1:11:39

specific, can we somehow make

1:11:43

that happen without erasing

1:11:45

the whole history and

1:11:48

making it into something totally different really? That's

1:11:52

probably the overall sense that a lot

1:11:54

of people have. Guess what? There

1:11:57

have already been a number of alternatives that have

1:11:59

sprung. hung up really for years to the Boy

1:12:01

Scouts of America. Some people have been unhappy with

1:12:03

them for various reasons for a while. So

1:12:06

if you are a parent out

1:12:08

there or a kid and you're yearning for

1:12:10

something like the days of old in Boy

1:12:12

Scouts, that exists. You can find that on

1:12:15

social media. You can search

1:12:17

it on the Internet. There are other organizations

1:12:20

that will now fill the void

1:12:22

because I think there is a demand

1:12:25

for that. There is a market for it.

1:12:27

There is something innate in a lot

1:12:29

of people to join

1:12:31

healthy tribes. I

1:12:34

would say the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts would

1:12:36

be two of them. And when

1:12:38

you start having all the lines blurred for inclusivity

1:12:40

or whatever, guess what? There

1:12:43

will be competition. There will be

1:12:45

options. And I think people might want

1:12:48

to go in search of something

1:12:50

else. Scouting America or

1:12:52

whatever they're going to call it may not

1:12:54

be really for everyone anymore and

1:12:56

they can go find a different solution. I

1:12:58

just think it's remarkable

1:13:01

to see institutions make

1:13:03

decisions to completely consume

1:13:06

themselves and then destroy themselves from

1:13:09

within. And

1:13:11

I know a lot of people believe that is

1:13:13

exactly what the Boy Scouts of America have done

1:13:16

and they can dress it up as inclusivity

1:13:19

or what have you. Being welcoming to

1:13:21

everyone, it is fundamentally

1:13:23

not the same anymore. That's

1:13:26

a choice that they've made. It's

1:13:29

an institution deciding to really

1:13:31

end itself as it

1:13:33

has always existed. And some

1:13:35

people, I guess, will go along with it. I

1:13:39

would guess quite a few people will

1:13:41

not and will be seeking other options.

1:13:45

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1:15:26

She represents Florida's 3rd Congressional District.

1:15:28

She's a Republican, graduate

1:15:30

of the U.S. Naval War College. And Congresswoman,

1:15:32

it is great to have you here. Hey,

1:15:36

great to be with you, Guy.

1:15:38

Greetings from muggy, hot, nasty swamp

1:15:40

town, aka Washington, D.C. Well

1:15:43

it is pretty chilly way up here

1:15:45

in Alaska. Got in last night. I'm glad

1:15:47

I have my north face, even though it's

1:15:49

early May. Does not feel like

1:15:51

it. A lot of sunlight up here as well.

1:15:55

It's a different way of life here in this neck

1:15:57

of the woods. About as far from D.C.

1:15:59

as you can guess. in the United States

1:16:01

of America. Congressman, I just

1:16:03

want to ask you about this

1:16:05

whole motion to vacate issue involving

1:16:08

Speaker Johnson. I know that one of the members,

1:16:10

or two of the members, were really talking

1:16:12

about or threatening to do this to

1:16:15

try to force another Speaker fight. It

1:16:18

looked like the Democrats might be

1:16:20

coming to join with almost all the Republicans

1:16:22

to say no this time around. Now

1:16:25

those people have maybe backed off for the

1:16:27

time being. What's the status on

1:16:29

this? And do you expect

1:16:32

that this misadventure is now done

1:16:34

for the election year at least? Well,

1:16:38

it's definitely crazy town up

1:16:40

here. And so never say

1:16:42

never. While every indication

1:16:44

is that there's nowhere for

1:16:46

this motion to vacate to go, it

1:16:50

would appear that there's always that moment

1:16:54

where Speaker Johnson will do something that

1:16:56

folks don't like and then they bring

1:16:58

it back up. The fact is

1:17:01

that we have a one vote majority

1:17:03

in the House. And at this point in

1:17:05

time, we would simply

1:17:09

move to table the motion. That's the

1:17:11

procedural process. And it

1:17:13

would get tabled. And if

1:17:15

it were somehow to come to pass

1:17:17

where there was

1:17:20

a situation where we were actually voting on the

1:17:22

motion to vacate and the Democrats who have come

1:17:24

out, which I have

1:17:26

to say to their credit, they're

1:17:28

playing chess here. They know

1:17:30

that by coming out and saying that, they're

1:17:33

furthering the wedge and

1:17:35

driving division in the Republican conference.

1:17:38

So they're not doing this out of the kindness of their

1:17:40

heart, but they're doing it to sow more

1:17:42

confusion and chaos and discord in

1:17:45

the Republican conference. And

1:17:47

just to clarify that, they're not saying all of a

1:17:49

sudden, they didn't wake up one morning, the Democrats now

1:17:51

said, you know what, Mike Johnson's a

1:17:53

real swell guy. And we like him

1:17:55

and we want to let him and the Republicans

1:17:57

have the power that they earned in the election.

1:18:00

So let's just help protect

1:18:02

him from these legal, I

1:18:05

don't want to call them coup attempts, but an

1:18:07

effort to overthrow the speakership and to

1:18:09

cause a lot of chaos. We've seen

1:18:11

this movie before. They're not doing

1:18:13

it again out of altruism or bipartisanship. They're

1:18:15

doing it at least partially

1:18:17

strategically because if

1:18:19

the headlines look like Speaker Johnson

1:18:22

is being protected by the

1:18:24

Democrats, that makes a certain element of the

1:18:26

right-wing base more angry and alienated from Speaker

1:18:28

Johnson like he's somehow illegitimate. And the only

1:18:31

reason he's still got the gavel is because

1:18:33

the Democrats are keeping him in there, ignoring

1:18:35

the fact that what is it? 99%

1:18:38

of House Republicans want no part

1:18:41

of another fight like this, especially in an election

1:18:43

year? Well, heck, you

1:18:45

know, President Trump has said, this

1:18:48

is not the time, you know, he has

1:18:50

been calling for unity. And

1:18:52

every day that we get closer to the election, it

1:18:55

becomes more and more dangerous. And, Guy, you've heard me

1:18:57

say it a thousand times before, I'm going to say

1:18:59

it again. You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

1:19:02

And if this motion to vacate ever

1:19:04

were to be seriously pursued, the

1:19:06

stupid prize that we would win

1:19:09

in this case would be Hakeem

1:19:11

Jeffries as Speaker. Because

1:19:13

there's already two members that I can think

1:19:15

of that are so fed up with everything

1:19:17

that has happened up until this point that

1:19:19

they would say, you know what, to hell

1:19:22

with it. I actually want

1:19:24

to get something done up here. And they

1:19:26

could potentially cross over. And keep in mind, it

1:19:28

would only take one. And

1:19:30

we have two that I can think of off the top

1:19:32

of my head that would go ahead and cross over. And

1:19:35

then, boom, American history is made. Republicans

1:19:37

have lost the majority of Congress. And

1:19:40

then Joe Biden has the trifecta.

1:19:43

And he could ram his agenda down the American

1:19:45

people's throats knowing full well that he's not going

1:19:47

to win an election this fall. And

1:19:50

that would be a disaster. That

1:19:52

right there is a disaster of the Republican

1:19:54

zone making. Right? It would

1:19:56

be a disaster of the Republican party's own making

1:19:58

because the American people. gave them

1:20:01

the House in 2022. The

1:20:03

message to voters was we need a

1:20:06

check and balance on this president. It

1:20:09

was not the red wave that people expected, and I

1:20:11

think that there were lessons to be learned there, need

1:20:13

to be learned for

1:20:15

2024 and beyond. Nevertheless, though, the

1:20:17

American people, you look at the actual vote

1:20:19

count, you look at the

1:20:22

seats that were won, you look at

1:20:24

the national so-called popular vote, there

1:20:26

was a mandate. The American people wanted

1:20:28

a Republican House of Representatives.

1:20:31

And as a result of people

1:20:33

retiring or resigning and going into

1:20:35

private sector jobs or being

1:20:37

ousted because of scandal, you

1:20:40

go down the list with the dwindling

1:20:42

majority and then the dysfunction of the

1:20:44

majority and then a certain number of

1:20:46

people playing politics and constantly sniping at

1:20:48

the leadership. If

1:20:50

there were somehow this nightmare

1:20:52

scenario where the Democrats actually won the

1:20:54

speakership midterm, like in the middle

1:20:57

of a Congress, it would

1:20:59

be because the Republicans did

1:21:01

it to themselves to a large

1:21:03

extent. And I think that's probably

1:21:06

something that's rather frustrating and embarrassing to

1:21:08

a lot of voters who put Republicans

1:21:10

in there to govern. Oh,

1:21:12

absolutely. Everywhere I go, I see

1:21:15

how the narrative has shifted from they originally

1:21:19

were saying, get rid

1:21:21

of McCarthy, then they were really happy

1:21:23

about Johnson. Now things are really, really

1:21:25

tough. And those same people that

1:21:27

were first to call me up and say, get rid

1:21:30

of McCarthy, that rhino, they're calling me up saying, man,

1:21:33

it was better under McCarthy. And

1:21:35

it's because of a number of factors. But

1:21:37

yeah, I know that

1:21:40

discussion was actually had today amongst

1:21:43

several people up here on the Hill

1:21:45

talking about, listen,

1:21:48

there is a reality that we are one half of one

1:21:50

third of government. And I

1:21:52

think a lot of members have

1:21:54

taken advantage of their own little

1:21:56

mini bully pulpit, right? And they have gone

1:21:58

out and sold this. very angry

1:22:01

outrage politics, performative theater mess,

1:22:05

saying that we are able to deliver the

1:22:07

sun, the moon, and the stars, but

1:22:09

that doesn't reflect reality. We should have

1:22:12

underpromised and overdelivered. The thiz margin, maybe

1:22:14

ever, in one half of the Congress, where

1:22:20

the Democrats have the other half and the presidency,

1:22:22

just in terms of nuts and bolts in reality,

1:22:24

there's only so much Republicans can do. That doesn't

1:22:26

mean that they shouldn't be smart and use their

1:22:28

leverage and fight where they ought to. For

1:22:30

all of that, there's also just a

1:22:33

realism that is required when it

1:22:35

comes to governing. Now, here's another

1:22:37

point I want to move to on this

1:22:39

front, because the Democrats

1:22:42

generally play to win.

1:22:44

They play for keeps. They're much more

1:22:46

serious about power, I think, than often

1:22:48

Republicans are. Not always, but that's generally

1:22:50

the case. There is something

1:22:52

happening just this week that

1:22:54

highlights this gap, and

1:22:56

the ruthlessness, and the hypocrisy

1:22:58

that we see on the left and among

1:23:01

Democrats when it comes to power

1:23:03

and so-called principles. I want to ask

1:23:05

you about that when we come back.

1:23:07

Congresswoman Kat Kamak, staying with us kindly

1:23:09

through the break, she's a Republican of

1:23:11

Florida. Our conversation continues

1:23:14

in a moment. America

1:23:16

is listening to

1:23:19

The Guy Benson

1:23:21

Show. Florida Congresswoman

1:23:23

Kat Kamak, our guest, a Republican here on

1:23:25

The Guy Benson Show. And Congresswoman,

1:23:28

just before the break, I was starting to

1:23:30

pivot to the Democrats and

1:23:32

just the flaming hypocrisy that they

1:23:34

are unashamed of, really. Because

1:23:36

they are focused on power.

1:23:39

They are focused on the balance of power. They

1:23:42

prioritize and prize their political

1:23:45

interests. And they do a

1:23:47

whole lot of song and dance

1:23:50

and waxing poetic about putting

1:23:52

the country over one's party.

1:23:54

But that usually is just

1:23:56

a signal to what

1:23:58

Republicans should do. Not

1:24:00

themselves, right? They shouldn't have to sacrifice. It's

1:24:03

the Republicans who should do things to put

1:24:05

the country over their party, which tend to

1:24:07

also just align with the things and outcomes

1:24:09

that the Democrats want. And the media, of

1:24:12

course, goes along with it, which is a

1:24:14

huge factor in all of this. But

1:24:16

there's a drama playing out this

1:24:18

week that I think underlines what

1:24:21

I'm talking about. So what

1:24:23

was it? Last year, House Republicans decided

1:24:25

to expel George Santos from New

1:24:27

York. And look, he was

1:24:29

under indictment. He was embarrassing.

1:24:32

He was lying about everything, and that

1:24:34

all got exposed. I was not defending

1:24:36

him at all. And the Democrats said, oh,

1:24:39

you've got to put the country over the party.

1:24:41

You can't have this indicted liar in

1:24:43

Congress. And so the

1:24:45

Republicans, even though things were awfully close and the

1:24:47

majority was very threadbare, and

1:24:50

even though it was a swing district that the Democrats might

1:24:52

win, and then they did, by the way, Republicans

1:24:55

and Republican leadership in the House said, okay,

1:24:57

we don't want to have this person as

1:25:00

a member of our conference anymore, and he got the boot from

1:25:03

Congress expelled. On

1:25:05

the other side of the aisle and the other side

1:25:07

of Congress, Bob Menendez has been indicted by so many

1:25:10

charges. The list has grown, where

1:25:12

he allegedly sold out the country, sold his

1:25:15

very powerful position on the Foreign

1:25:17

Relations Committee to do the

1:25:19

bidding of other governments in exchange for gold

1:25:22

bars and cash. Now

1:25:24

he's trying to blame his wife. What a guy. But the

1:25:27

evidence is mounting against Bob

1:25:29

Menendez, who's under active, multiple-charge

1:25:31

federal indictment. And the

1:25:33

Democrats put out their denunciation statements, but

1:25:35

because it's really close, 51-49 in the

1:25:37

Senate, they've done nothing about it. Chuck

1:25:40

Schumer has done nothing about

1:25:42

it. And that man continues to

1:25:44

serve as a U.S. senator voting the way the

1:25:46

party wants him to vote in a

1:25:48

closely divided chamber. He's getting

1:25:50

his briefings and his intel and all that, despite

1:25:52

what he allegedly did, according to the DOJ.

1:25:56

Now a similar thing playing out in the House with

1:25:58

Henry Cuellar, who's a more modern- moderate Democrat in

1:26:00

a number of ways, but still a Democrat.

1:26:02

Things are tight, very, very tight in the

1:26:04

House, getting tighter. He's now

1:26:06

been indicted. In a bribery scheme

1:26:09

I saw. And suddenly the

1:26:11

Democrats are like, oh well, you know, let's just

1:26:13

hold off here for a second. And

1:26:15

we've got to go through the whole due process

1:26:17

thing. When they were singing a

1:26:19

very different tune on George Santos,

1:26:22

it just seems like they

1:26:24

are all about power and

1:26:26

Republicans sometimes get taken advantage

1:26:28

of in this lopsided game

1:26:30

that the media fuels. Yes. No,

1:26:33

I think that that's a very well said guy.

1:26:35

You know, we're the first to take out

1:26:38

our own before we take out the other side

1:26:42

because we bring a knife to

1:26:44

a gunfight, quite frankly, and

1:26:46

it's a pocket knife at that. It's

1:26:50

very much a time

1:26:53

where you are seeing the old guard

1:26:55

that still believes in the gentleman's

1:26:58

agreements and the, you know, the

1:27:00

old school way of handling things versus

1:27:03

you have a new guard coming in

1:27:06

and we believe that it's time to

1:27:08

take the damn gloves off. And if we're going

1:27:10

to save the country and bring it back from

1:27:12

the brink, we have to actually

1:27:14

start getting in the trenches. It's I like

1:27:16

it and it's just so many issues

1:27:18

that we contend with, whether it is

1:27:21

the issues at the ballot, right, at

1:27:23

the ballot box. How many years

1:27:25

have you and I been doing this

1:27:27

where we've heard from our own people,

1:27:29

oh, don't vote early and don't vote

1:27:31

absentee. And then we go and we

1:27:34

get killed in these elections. We lost

1:27:36

New York three, the Santos seat, because

1:27:38

there was 11,000 early votes cast and

1:27:40

we told Republicans don't vote early and

1:27:42

don't vote by absentee, God forbid, and

1:27:44

we get killed every single time. Now

1:27:47

there's a group of us who are saying, listen, you

1:27:49

don't have to like it, but if the rules are set

1:27:52

as such that this is legal, then

1:27:54

we're going to do it because we

1:27:56

have to fight and fighting means actually

1:27:59

doing the things that are

1:28:01

necessary to be successful. The

1:28:03

Democrats have always understood that.

1:28:05

Republicans have talked about it,

1:28:07

but never acted on it. And I

1:28:10

think of this whole strategy of

1:28:12

the Democrat agenda, it's

1:28:15

not one policy issue. I

1:28:17

hear that all the time. People, oh, they just want to

1:28:20

take over the voting, or they

1:28:22

want guns, you know, confiscated. No,

1:28:24

the Democrat agenda is very simple.

1:28:26

Dependency and control. Grow the

1:28:28

size of government so that people become dependent

1:28:30

on big government programs so that

1:28:32

they, the big government advocates like the

1:28:34

Dems, they get to stay in power

1:28:37

because no one ever votes against their

1:28:39

own pocketbook or their self-interest. So

1:28:41

it is all about that

1:28:43

mission set. And they can wrap their

1:28:46

heads and their arms around all these

1:28:48

big government type ideas, and

1:28:50

they don't have to sink their teeth

1:28:52

into every single one issue and make

1:28:54

that the battleground. No, they

1:28:56

have to keep that unified front.

1:28:58

A big government dependency and control,

1:29:00

and they'll keep every single pawn

1:29:02

on the chessboard going because that

1:29:04

person plays a vital role. Whereas

1:29:06

Republicans, we're playing checkers over here

1:29:08

saying, well, this one policy issue

1:29:10

is going to be the one

1:29:12

thing that we're going to hang

1:29:14

our hat on. And we are

1:29:16

so bad at doing that that

1:29:18

we miss the bigger picture. So

1:29:21

I think we have some internal struggles. You and I

1:29:23

have talked about this. I feel like we are effectively

1:29:26

beyond the R versus D, the

1:29:29

little government versus big government. We are effectively in

1:29:31

coalition government at this point because there's so many

1:29:33

factions in the Republican House. We

1:29:36

have to start playing tough as a team

1:29:39

and recognize that politics is about

1:29:41

addition, not subtraction, and adopting singular

1:29:43

policy issues as the banners that

1:29:46

we're going to carry and hang

1:29:48

our hat on. It

1:29:50

may not necessarily be the best thing

1:29:52

for winning elections, right? And it may

1:29:54

not be the best thing for the

1:29:56

country. And so we have a lot of

1:29:59

work to do. and coming

1:30:01

together and getting that vision set for

1:30:03

the country. Yeah, and I'm not opposed to some of

1:30:05

the old guard, old school ways of doing things. Some

1:30:08

of them were worse, some of them were better. But

1:30:10

it only works if both sides are willing to give, and

1:30:12

if one side is just a bunch of sharks and killers,

1:30:15

always going for their own self-interest, it's

1:30:17

naive to play by the old rules

1:30:19

on the other side. I think that's your point.

1:30:21

I agree with that. Very quickly, Congresswoman, the

1:30:23

Biden administration now admitting that they've

1:30:25

withheld precision ammunition from Israel these

1:30:28

last few days to try to

1:30:30

pressure the Israelis, our ally, against

1:30:33

doing what they have to do in

1:30:35

Rafa, against a terrorist organization. I'm blown

1:30:38

away that they are not

1:30:40

just doing this. They're admitting to it. Your

1:30:42

reaction? No, it just

1:30:44

makes my stomach turn. This administration

1:30:46

has done virtually nothing in

1:30:48

the way of helping recover

1:30:51

hostages, many of whom were American,

1:30:56

and to condition and to

1:30:59

leverage critical munitions

1:31:02

over a fear of

1:31:04

political fallout here at home. It's

1:31:07

just disgusting. It is very, very frustrating,

1:31:09

the situation that we find ourselves in.

1:31:12

Quite frankly, we know that all these campus

1:31:14

protests and everything that's going on, this

1:31:16

is not about Joe Biden suddenly

1:31:19

having a position when

1:31:22

it comes to Israel versus

1:31:24

Hamas or Islam. This

1:31:27

is about the mega-donors that are funding

1:31:29

the protests on these campuses,

1:31:32

these organizations. And ultimately,

1:31:34

this comes down to what does the

1:31:36

electoral map look like for Joe Biden

1:31:38

in November and its centers around Michigan.

1:31:41

And this is what it all comes down

1:31:43

to. Does he win Michigan? Does he lose

1:31:45

Michigan? I think he loses Michigan, and

1:31:47

this is his Hail Mary to try

1:31:49

to hold on to any semblance of victory

1:31:51

there. Yeah, it's about

1:31:53

an element of their hardcore base, which

1:31:56

is deeply anti-Israel and some of them

1:31:58

just pro-Hamas, American

1:32:00

in many cases and then their donor class

1:32:02

as well. I think you're exactly right on

1:32:04

both of those fronts. Kat Kamak, Republican Congresswoman

1:32:07

from Florida, the 3rd District down there. Congresswoman,

1:32:09

thanks so much. Appreciate you

1:32:11

so much. Stay warm up there in Alaska. I'll

1:32:14

do my best. The Guy Benson Show continues

1:32:16

from Alaska right after this. Same

1:32:27

issues but with a fresh perspective. The Guy

1:32:29

Benson Show. House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer

1:32:32

joined us earlier here on the program,

1:32:34

Republican. Taki, we had a lot to talk

1:32:36

about with him. Here's part of that exchange.

1:32:38

The failures at GW and from the leadership

1:32:41

at GW, I mean, that's one thing

1:32:43

and I think that they should have to

1:32:45

answer for letting things get to the point

1:32:47

that they did. But as

1:32:49

I noted and as you then picked up on,

1:32:52

days ago, days and days ago they said, okay, this is

1:32:54

beyond our control. We need help. And

1:32:57

the city came back and said, no, I mean, did

1:32:59

the police, I don't think rank and file police officers

1:33:01

were going to refuse to do

1:33:03

this. This was leadership. This was

1:33:05

city leadership telling them, no, it's

1:33:07

bad optics. These are peaceful protesters.

1:33:09

And then of course, as soon

1:33:11

as that became public, that

1:33:13

DC was refusing to help clear

1:33:16

out this encampment on private

1:33:18

property at this university, then

1:33:21

the kids and the other agitators got

1:33:23

even more emboldened. They burst

1:33:26

past a number of barricades and like piled

1:33:28

up the barricades and were overrunning

1:33:30

the police and they got even

1:33:33

more aggressive, even uglier. And I'm just

1:33:35

like trying to figure out how it

1:33:37

could even have gotten to the point

1:33:40

where the school said, hi, Washington,

1:33:42

DC, we need your help. This

1:33:45

is a crime. And the city would even

1:33:47

feel like they had it in their authority

1:33:49

to decline. Like I didn't

1:33:51

realize decline was even an option here.

1:33:55

Well, here's the, here's a situation

1:33:57

with Democrat politicians, a

1:33:59

significant percentage of the Democrat base is

1:34:01

now anti-Semitic. We can go into a

1:34:04

lot of detail about that, but at

1:34:06

the end of the day, they're hostile

1:34:08

towards Israel, they're hostile towards Jewish people

1:34:11

in general, and they

1:34:14

are expressing their views proudly.

1:34:17

And you see right now the whole

1:34:20

Israel policy in the Biden administration is

1:34:22

being dictated by some

1:34:25

voters in the Detroit area on how

1:34:27

we can handle Israel

1:34:29

without alienating this block

1:34:32

of voters in the

1:34:36

important Michigan swing state. So

1:34:38

the Democrat party has a problem with

1:34:40

the significant percentage of the race being

1:34:43

anti-Semitic, and I think that every Democrat

1:34:45

politician, especially in the cities, cities like

1:34:47

Detroit, cities like Washington,

1:34:51

D.C., they realize they've got a problem

1:34:53

with their base, and they don't want

1:34:55

to alienate their base. So where the

1:34:57

disagreement was with Mayor Bowser and myself,

1:35:00

and I think I was

1:35:02

on the side of the overall majority of Americans, is

1:35:05

you can't have people set up

1:35:07

tents and blockade entrances

1:35:09

into school buildings and require university

1:35:11

faculty to switch students who pay

1:35:14

a lot of money to go

1:35:16

to school there to go

1:35:19

instead of having in-person learning to virtual

1:35:21

learning. We went through that crap with

1:35:23

COVID, but you shouldn't

1:35:25

have to do that. Their civil rights

1:35:27

were being violated. And it's just a

1:35:30

statement. When you don't get tough

1:35:32

on criminals, they're going to continue to break the

1:35:34

law, and that's what's wrong with

1:35:36

Washington, D.C., in general. And

1:35:38

just to clarify and put a finer point

1:35:41

on the resolution here, because I saw images

1:35:43

this morning when I woke up, oh, here's

1:35:45

the quad at GW. It's

1:35:47

clear. The statue is now

1:35:49

clean. George Washington is no longer

1:35:52

being swaddled, basically, in a

1:35:54

bunch of garb or what have you.

1:35:57

The projections on the building, that's gone.

1:36:00

all back to normal. That

1:36:02

could have been done a long time ago.

1:36:04

They refused to do it at the school

1:36:06

level and then at the city level, and

1:36:08

the only reason they did it, Congressman,

1:36:11

is because not all the

1:36:13

anti-Semitic chanting, not the

1:36:15

screaming about guillotines for the university

1:36:17

president, not about any number of

1:36:19

the unlawful things that were happening,

1:36:22

the dangerous things that were happening

1:36:24

on campus. The only reason finally

1:36:26

the city agreed to heed the

1:36:28

pleas from the university was

1:36:30

because you guys in Congress

1:36:33

threatened to bring them up

1:36:35

to Capitol Hill and ask the people

1:36:37

declining to do their jobs why they

1:36:40

were refusing to do their jobs, and

1:36:42

they were so scared of accountability and

1:36:44

trying to give answers to really questions

1:36:46

that there's no good answer to, they

1:36:48

finally just knuckled under and did the

1:36:50

thing they should have done days

1:36:52

if not weeks ago. But if not

1:36:54

for you guys controlling that committee and

1:36:56

having the gavel, I

1:36:59

think this thing would still be going, right? You're

1:37:02

100% correct. That's the only reason.

1:37:08

That's one of the good sides

1:37:11

of having a committee with the

1:37:13

firebrands and the members that are

1:37:15

passionate and want to hold people

1:37:17

accountable is that

1:37:20

committee attracts media attention, and if you're

1:37:22

a politician, you don't want to have

1:37:24

to go in front of that committee to begin

1:37:26

with, but then to try to defend

1:37:29

the indefensible. And the indefensible was the

1:37:32

police were told to stand down. So

1:37:34

I think that the American people are

1:37:36

sick and tired of

1:37:38

the lawlessness in these blue

1:37:40

cities. My full interview with

1:37:43

House Oversight Committee Chairman Jim Comer,

1:37:45

available online at guybensonshow.com, also part

1:37:47

of that free podcast. It's every

1:37:49

day, it's on demand, no

1:37:52

charge to you. here

1:38:00

from Alaska. Well, Governor Kristi Noem was the

1:38:02

subject of our Homestretch yesterday. We mentioned she

1:38:04

was scheduled to be on Gutfeld last night.

1:38:07

How did that go? Did that go? Oh

1:38:10

boy. We'll tell you when we come back. Always

1:38:13

fresh, always fair. The Guy

1:38:15

Benson Show. Homestretch,

1:38:25

Guy Benson Show, Wednesday, here in Alaska. Thanks

1:38:31

for tuning in. guybensonshow.com. Podcasts

1:38:34

always free. Before

1:38:36

we get to our main topic here, I do just want to

1:38:38

ask, Dillon is back from a

1:38:40

brief hiatus. Part of the reason he

1:38:42

was out for a couple days is because he was giving

1:38:44

a speech at his alma mater.

1:38:47

Dillon, how did that come together? What

1:38:49

did you talk about? How did it go? And

1:38:52

did Christine contribute to the speech? Yeah,

1:38:56

so that all kind of came together because

1:38:58

I have a pretty close relationship with a

1:39:00

couple of my professors from last

1:39:03

year. I graduated in May

1:39:05

from our journalism, last May I guess

1:39:07

that is, from our journalism and digital

1:39:10

media department. And

1:39:12

apparently this class of students that are getting

1:39:15

ready to graduate have not been listening to

1:39:17

the advice of their professors. They're a bunch

1:39:19

of COVID students who did

1:39:21

school online and they wanted to hear from

1:39:24

somebody who had just graduated and is now

1:39:26

in the field working. So I

1:39:28

decided to drive on down to my

1:39:30

alma mater at Liberty University and I

1:39:33

gave a little speech. And Christine did

1:39:35

not contribute though. I don't

1:39:38

know. It didn't really come to my head

1:39:42

I guess when I was thinking of people with

1:39:44

speaking powers. Did you ask her for some best practices

1:39:46

of how people make

1:39:48

it in the industry? Yeah,

1:39:50

it didn't really come to the forefront of my mind.

1:39:53

I don't know why. Okay,

1:39:55

fair enough. But it went well? You're happy with it? Yeah,

1:39:58

it went really well. Everybody seemed

1:40:00

pretty responsive and I got a line

1:40:02

of people asking me a ton of

1:40:05

questions after I left the panel. So

1:40:07

it ended up going pretty well. And I

1:40:10

assume you encourage all of them to listen to

1:40:12

the show every day and download the podcast? Oh,

1:40:15

of course. I gave QR codes. I gave

1:40:17

plugs. They need to – we're

1:40:19

really just recruiting for the Guy Benson show if

1:40:22

I'm being completely honest. Good. That's

1:40:24

– okay. That's exactly what I would expect.

1:40:26

Bravo. Welcome back. Glad to have you in

1:40:28

the fold. Okay, so yesterday here on The

1:40:30

Home Stretch we talked about Kristi Noem

1:40:32

and this disaster of a book tour she's been on

1:40:36

and her snapping at Stuart Varley

1:40:38

yesterday and giving all these embarrassing

1:40:40

answers. Now she's trying

1:40:42

to pretend like maybe she did meet with Kim Jong-un

1:40:44

even though she didn't. And then

1:40:46

she's pretending like, oh, well, I'm taking it out of the book,

1:40:49

that reference, but I'm not going to comment on

1:40:52

meetings I have with foreign leaders. Mary-Catherine

1:40:56

Hamm captioned that basically on

1:40:58

social media saying, made-up

1:41:00

meetings are off the record. That

1:41:03

is very much the energy we're getting from

1:41:05

her as she's spinning that, one of multiple

1:41:07

things that she's under fire for. So

1:41:10

she was supposed to be on Gutfeld last night

1:41:12

for the hour, something I do on

1:41:14

a pretty regular basis. They

1:41:16

had reached out. Her team got her booked on

1:41:18

the show. She was going to be one of

1:41:20

the panelists with Gutfeld. And actually we

1:41:22

were talking about it on set the night before

1:41:24

when I was there. I know

1:41:27

we've got Kristi Noem here tomorrow. These interviews are pretty wild

1:41:29

with her. How are we going to handle this? Well,

1:41:31

turns out they didn't handle it at all

1:41:34

because she canceled. She

1:41:36

got all snippy with Stuart Varney, and

1:41:38

then within minutes or at

1:41:40

least a couple hours, Team

1:41:43

Gutfeld got the note that, nope, Kristi

1:41:45

Noem is out, not going to participate

1:41:47

anymore. So I was giving a heads

1:41:49

up about this, also giving a heads up about what they

1:41:51

were going to do in her absence. They

1:41:53

were not going to just let this slide. So

1:41:56

they had Dana Perino play.

1:42:00

Kristi Noem in

1:42:02

a book interview. So

1:42:04

they still absolutely ripped her

1:42:06

to shreds, probably more aggressively

1:42:09

than they would have in person. And

1:42:12

Dana, which is hilarious, I

1:42:15

guess was recruited to play Kristi

1:42:17

Noem. Here's how part of the

1:42:20

quote unquote interview with fake Kristi

1:42:22

Noem went between Greg and Dana

1:42:24

Perino playing that role, cut 30.

1:42:27

You know, I noticed that you seem