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Benson show Douglas Murray is

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a Fox News contributor National

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Review Institute fellow. Author:

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And. Just a very clear thinker and we pleased

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to have been back on the show. Douglas good

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to have you here. Very. Good

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to be with you God I

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would like to play a few

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sound bites for you from Mit

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on campus Yesterday up in Cambridge,

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Massachusetts, they had a big. To.

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Do at one of these encampments and

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things got. Very. Hostile and

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these were some of the chance.

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For example, cuts six. Know.

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Zionist on Boston streets and then

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also cut seven. We.

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Are the Intifada. Long.

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Live The Intifada. Globalize. The

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Intifada. If. You can just because

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I think some people have just gotten endured to

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this. They all chant things they get in the

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streets. they say various think they've been doing it

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for months. Just. Bring home

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for us! And. And unpack

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the meaning behind chance. Like

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know Zionists on Boston streets.

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And. we are slash long

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live slash globalize the into

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Well, the first thing is, of course, first

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of all, I mean, I'm not a Jew,

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but I'm a Zionist. I believe

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very firmly in the right of the Jewish

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people to determine their own future, to

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defend themselves, and much more.

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Am I not welcome in Boston? I don't

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think so. Who the hell do these people

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think they are? They decide who

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can be on the streets or not. I

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mean, these are people who need a

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very certain talking to, and we

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can just hope that they're as ignorant as they

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sound. As for the

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intifada, I think everybody who chants there

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should be arrested for incitement to terrorism. They

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should also perhaps know what an intifada

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actually means. I assume

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these are more than kids

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who are shouting this. I

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suppose what are they, 21, maybe 22? Some

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of the dinner among them will be about 33, and

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still trying to finish their postgraduate

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degree in lesbian dance theory. But

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as they chant for intifada,

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they should know that the

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last time there was an intifada, the

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second intifada, followed

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the breakdown of the Oslo talks. In

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2001, intifada looked something

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like this, the

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Palestinian man who walked

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to a nightclub called the Dolphinarium,

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the sort of nightclub that those students at

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MIT and elsewhere would like

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to go to themselves on a

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weekend if they took any time

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off their rabble-rousing. And

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the bomber went to the nightclub, noticed

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that there were large groups of young

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women about the age

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of these students standing outside trying to

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get into the packed Tel Aviv nightclub.

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And he detonated a bomb, killed

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dozens of young people, wounded

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dozens more for life. That's

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their intifada. Their

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intifada is, for instance, a

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young Arab Muslim Israeli shot

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in the head, the stomach, and the

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neck by Palestinian jihadists in

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2001 who thought he was a Jew. That's

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what intifada means. So

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if these people want it globalized, then

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if they were taken at their word, then

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they should expect a

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suicide bomber to come and blow

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them up and their fellow students,

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like Obama did at the Hebrew

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University in Jerusalem in 2001 in

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the cafeteria. They

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want their intifada globalized.

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Okay, great. Do it at your

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own word. Wait for the suicide

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bomber to come into your cafe, your

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campus at MIT, or Columbia,

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or Berkeley, and

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just see how much you love

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intifada then. I

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presume some of them have no idea

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what it means, and it sounds exciting

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and somewhat foreign and

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mysterious and dangerous, so they're kind of

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excited by that, and it's almost

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romanticized to them. It's

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exotic. Ooh, okay, intifada, this is what they're telling

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us to chant. We'll just repeat it back. That's

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some of them. Others, I'm

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sure, absolutely know what it means,

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and therefore, they just assume they would be

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spared. They wouldn't be the

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ones killed. It would be Jews, especially

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the Zionist Jews. They'd be the ones killed, and maybe

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some other Zionists like you and me, but

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they would be spared from an

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intifada. Maybe they'd be the ones partaking in

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the intifada. It's hard to kind

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of absolve them of that, isn't it? Well,

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all of these people fall

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into two categories, the sinister

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and the silly. The

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sinister are the ones who actually do love this.

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They love the fact that,

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clearly, that American students were

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killed at the university in Jerusalem

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in 2001 at the cafeteria. suicide

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bombing. Presumably, they love that. So

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these are people who love the

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murder and mutilation of American

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students their own age. So

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those are the really sinister ones, that

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we're very unlucky to have such

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sick and deranged people on our

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campuses or on our streets. But

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as for the silly, how

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incredibly ridiculous,

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stupid, mentally impaired do you have

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to be to shout

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something you don't know

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what it even means? I mean,

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you know, I reckon I'm

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quite a bright guy. You're a bright guy

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guy. If we

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were at an American campus, and

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somebody just started chanting some word

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we didn't know, would we join in?

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No. Would we ask

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what a word meant before

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we chanted it? I reckon

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so. I reckon I'd

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have a quick look beforehand at

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exactly what it was. So

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how incredibly dumb do

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these silly students have to be? What

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ghouls they are, what

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ill-educated ghouls they are,

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that they stand on campus and

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shout words they don't understand. They

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have no right to be on

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a campus if they're

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that stupid. I

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mean, nobody,

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nobody with any

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cognitive ability goes

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around shouting slogans they don't

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understand. So I find

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the silly to be just

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as problematic to use one of their

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favorite words as the sinister. The

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clips we played for you were from

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Boston or Greater Boston, MIT. Then yesterday

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in New York you had some

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other charming scenes. Some of these people tried

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to disrupt the Met Gala, and

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in the process Well, here

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in Cut 5 were a number

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of young women in the full

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Muslim headscarves chanting at the police,

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Cut 5. Oink, oink,

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piggy piggy, talking to the police,

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we will make your lives and

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then a word that we

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can't use doesn't quite rhyme, but, you know, they

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can only do so well. That

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is one scene, a handful of

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them. There was another scene nearby,

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a war memorial, a memorial to

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our war dead, where

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they desecrated it with spray

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paint, with Palestinian garb

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and flags, and they also burned

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an American flag in front

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of it. Douglas, I know

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some people say, look, even if we

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support Israel, Guy, you're talking about this

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a lot, it goes so

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much deeper than Israel. It goes

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so much deeper than the well-being of Jews.

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Those are both extremely important to me. But

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it's about people who hate our

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civilization, hate our law enforcement, hate

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what should be sacred to this

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country, our veterans, our war dead,

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our flag. I

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think that's something that instinctively gets a

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rise out of so many Americans, including

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some of the people leading the backlash

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on some of these campuses. Yes.

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I mean, what everybody needs to

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realize is that Israel is now,

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as it has been for many

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years since the Global Left decided

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to adopt it as their

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bogeyman, Israel is

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just simply the first country in the

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sights of these maniacs. But

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it's always here in America that their

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sights really are. You know,

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they attack Israel for being

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colonialists. Israel never

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had a colony. It

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was founded in 1948, and they don't

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know what they're even talking about. But

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they say colonialists about Israel because they

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want to say colonialists about America. They

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claim that Israel is some kind of

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white supremacist society, and I invite them

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to go to Israel any day, and

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they'll see that that's

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not accurate, not just not white

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supremacists, but not white, an

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incredibly diverse population. But they want

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to say white supremacists about Israel

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in order to say it about

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America next. And they

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want to ban the Star

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of David. They want to burn the

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Star of David in order to

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burn the flag of the United

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States of America next. They

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want to insult the Israeli people

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and the Israeli army, and they

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want to attack and insult the

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American police and the American army,

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including the American war dead next.

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They really show us what they

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are, these people. They really show

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us. And they show it again

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and again. Anyone who

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thinks this is Israel's problem is

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kidding themselves. It's a

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Western civilization problem. It's

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a problem for civilization as a whole.

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And the problem that we see here

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clearly now is a generation

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of students, some of whom have

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been indoctrinated not only

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into stupidity, but into wickedness,

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a wicked, unforgivable

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stupidity. Thankfully, there are

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some people, including some students, who

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are brave enough to push back

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against that. And God bless them.

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God bless the students who are

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waving American flags and hanging American

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flags up instead of

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the jihadist flags that the

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students are currently playing with,

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and all these cosplay kids

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dressing up as Palestinian

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terrorists. And goodness

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there are some smart, clever,

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far, smarter, far cleverer American

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students who are also

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patriots who recognize what

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these would-be jihad and

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these cosplay jihadists are, and are

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pushing back at them. I

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think even if they're not steeped in the history

12:08

of the conflict, which of course neither are these

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cosplayers, they don't know what they're talking about, they're

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deeply ignorant, but the people on the

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other side say, we see what they're doing to

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statues of George Washington, for example, what they're

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doing to our flag, the things that they're chanting,

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we know deep in our bones we're

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against that, that's wrong, they're against

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what we stand for, and

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they're pushing back, I think in a really

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admirable way. Douglas Murray, thank you so

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much for your time, we always appreciate

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