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and again Saturday morning for

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the Weekend Edition 8-10 before

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Spring Game kicks off at 11. So

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that from a programming note, but lots

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to get into. A bit

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more of a recruiting flavor today. Who's

1:03

coming into town this weekend? Is

1:07

Nebraska in on another

1:09

Dylan? We'll explain. And

1:12

yes, Heisman Justice, dot,

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dot, dot, question mark, question

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mark. We'll get into

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it. Not just Reggie Bush, but try

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and rewrite some wrongs with

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the Heisman Trophy. Numbers to get in at 489-1240, 800-825-5865. William

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Kyle, News. He's

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California Dreamin'. And yeah, plenty

1:35

of NFL Draft thoughts. We'll

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get contacted with our dear

1:40

friend Jeremiah Searles. Searles on a

1:42

bit of a timeline. So

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we'll have Searles here in about 15 minutes. We

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are excited to talk with Mike Babcock.

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Babber's coming up at 4.40 to talk

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Big Red. And then Bill Bender with

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the sporting news. Bill,

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college football official.

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but also all in on the

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NFL draft. So Bill Bender at 5 o'clock,

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Evan Bland to talk some big red baseball and

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radio for me. So

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there's predictions in the stream before we

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do our starting five shout outs that

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today is the day you hit the

2:42

wall Cody Bellinger style and

2:44

crash after your whirlwind weekend. You had

2:46

bowling last night. You can't make the

2:48

Cody Bellinger reference with Connor Clark not

2:50

in studio today. Sure I can. Give

2:55

me padding on that brick

2:57

wall in Wrigley. There's

3:00

no Connor here to argue with you. Well,

3:04

losing that offensive production from

3:06

Bellinger, he might argue

3:08

it. Well, yeah, put up the padding. We'll

3:10

have Connor back tomorrow, but how you doing?

3:12

You feeling good? You have smelling salts? Have

3:14

you had McDonald's today? How many cups of

3:17

coffee are you in? Was bowling okay? Did

3:19

you bowl worth a damn last night? So

3:21

last night was our final week of the

3:23

bowling season. Did I bowl worth a damn?

3:25

Eh, did it really matter? No, last night

3:27

was not for the points. We did finish.

3:30

So the the league championship was last night, which involves

3:32

the winner of the first half of the season, which

3:34

runs until the end of December, pitted against

3:36

the winner of the second half of the season.

3:39

We won neither halves of the season. We lost

3:41

in the first half championship actually. So we got

3:43

to have fun last night. Our

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bowling was not for any points. We ended up

3:47

finishing second overall based on points won throughout the

3:49

season. So we got a healthy payout there. Other

3:52

than that, my day today has been

3:54

a couple cups of coffee this morning.

3:56

I've been casually trying to put together

3:58

a couple... teams

4:01

for the Cornusker State games this summer looking

4:03

at both three-on-three basketball and

4:05

five-on-five basketball trying to figure out what's going to be

4:07

better there before we we go to the Whiffle Ball

4:10

team but other than that it's just

4:12

looking ahead to spring game Saturday and making it

4:14

to the weekend big big weekend

4:16

Husker football, Tottenham's playing Arsenal big rivalry

4:18

game on Sunday morning I'm sure you

4:20

don't care don't. I'm trying

4:22

to figure out if I'm going to be doing umpiring

4:24

Saturday night after the spring game turn into a full

4:26

day we'll see but just

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still good to be back at work after

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the weekend away well back to normal it

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is what I remind you about the Team

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Jack event going on and we heard at

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Sports Bar and Grill that's Friday great way

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to start the weekend. No it is and

4:41

get it kicked off of course Kettie Bell

4:43

Amir Abdullah and Nate Gary,

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doors going to open at five at

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the La Vista location and

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show starts at 5.30 the panel

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of some great Huskers, Abdullah Kettie

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Bell, Nate Gary and of course

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the live show supports the Team

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Jack Foundation get there

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all ticket revenue goes directly towards

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the organization the fight against pediatric

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brain cancer big shout out

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to Kettie Bell for joining us yesterday he's

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going to be on the call with BTN

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this Saturday morning so good

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for Kettie and a Bellenhausen

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going to be hosting that so that's big

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time and get your RSVP

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going with your

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friends at Heard at Sports Bar and Grill

5:27

and go support Team Jack, go see Kettie,

5:29

go see Amir, go see Nate and the

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best part is admissions free not

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only is this an event to get some insight

5:36

from some really really unique people that have a

5:38

great insight on the Husker football program as well

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as the Team Jack Foundation getting

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in there for free a great way to start

5:45

the weekend get yourself some food get yourself some

5:47

drinks and enjoy the event get the Bang Bang

5:49

sauce alright let's say hello

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to Tim, Tim was first, Tim got in

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in our starting five, Brandon is

5:56

here and you grandpa in at

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three Allen is

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checking in at four. Husker David, what's

6:02

up? He says

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shout out to Vince, big

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Vince from North Platte, transferring in

6:09

from Montana back into his native Nebraska.

6:11

Jettaton are going to be in the

6:14

mix for a linebacker spot. That's a

6:16

great get for Nebraska. I know they

6:18

were interested in him on

6:20

the recruiting trail. KG is here. He

6:24

is checked in. Tuck says

6:26

what's up. Tuck is making the

6:28

prediction. Today is the day that

6:30

Elijah crashes. Not at all. Brian

6:32

is here. Good to hear from

6:34

Brian Anonymous. Also

6:36

in if Fred doesn't get at

6:38

least one more interior player, next

6:40

year could be ugly that on

6:42

the basketball portal thoughts from anonymous.

6:45

Well, William Kyle is off to UCLA.

6:49

I thought Mick Cronin was going to go to Michigan.

6:52

Honestly thought that's where that

6:54

direction would go. That's not the case. Well,

6:57

kind of re rewipe some

6:59

some Heisman wrongs in

7:01

a moment. And Babers has been

7:04

a Heisman voter for a long

7:06

time, so I want to get his take on

7:08

it. But before we do that, recruiting

7:11

thoughts, Elijah, because what

7:13

we're going to see some

7:16

vanilla on Saturday. I'm a vanilla ice cream

7:18

fan. That's fine with me. I'm just excited

7:20

to see what the lines of scrimmage and

7:22

the quarterback does. We have

7:24

plenty more time Friday, Saturday to get

7:26

into the spring game thoughts. What I

7:28

do know is the

7:31

recruiting weekend. Michael Terry is

7:33

a five star athlete. Michael

7:35

Terry is a guy

7:37

that is from the

7:39

San Antonio region, and he's not

7:41

a legacy Husker. He doesn't have

7:44

family members that went to Nebraska.

7:46

But nonetheless, Nebraska competing against

7:49

the Texas's and USC's and

7:51

A&M's to get that

7:53

official visit. Michael Terry

7:55

will be in Lincoln this weekend. The

7:57

Guy can play outside wide out. Running

8:00

Back Safety/hybrid linebacker. Good story

8:02

in the World Herald on

8:05

Michael Terry Sprouts a big

8:07

get That's a big Texas

8:09

connection format rule in his

8:12

high school coaching relationships down

8:14

there. Sir Terry is coming

8:16

up to Lincoln Cortez males

8:19

or wideouts he ever done

8:21

as curry. And

8:23

that six to quarter that will be

8:25

in Lincoln this weekend to jail achieve

8:28

the projected twenty twenty five quarterback target.

8:30

Yes, he's the target. Does he get?

8:33

In with Nebraska. Manual choice

8:36

so wideout. Also out of

8:38

Texas Terry Shelton John meals.

8:40

that's your run down with

8:42

more names to be added

8:45

possibly for Nebraska that is

8:47

from the high school Rex:

8:49

How does Deal and Edwards

8:52

grab you? As in

8:54

a brisk A fan. Edwards, the

8:56

stand out from Kansas, Nebraska last

8:58

out in the recruiting race since

9:01

this was quite an interesting recruiting

9:03

saga a year ago for Guillen

9:05

Edwards, the running back from Derby

9:08

High School, that of Kansas it

9:10

was Case State than it was

9:13

Notre Dame And then it turned

9:15

into the twelfth our to Colorado

9:17

and Coach Prime the kid. Tremendous

9:20

for a freshman. seventy six carries,

9:22

three twenty. One on the ground.

9:24

Thirty six receptions just shy a

9:26

three hundred yards to. That's almost.

9:30

Six hundred and fifty yards of

9:32

total offense is a freshman. He

9:34

was a pain in the ass

9:36

trying to d up in Boulder

9:38

because they put him out in

9:40

the slot. Guy has moves, guy

9:42

has speed and he has has

9:44

some some aren't after the run

9:46

so the chases on for Deal

9:48

and Edwards. If your Nebraska. or

9:51

the chases on for sure if

9:53

you're kansas or kansas state oklahoma

9:55

was a team that had interested

9:57

before prime one day the services,

10:00

but Dalen Hayden, really talented

10:02

running back from Ohio State,

10:05

he decided to get into the portal.

10:07

He landed in Boulder. That may have

10:09

coaxed Edwards into

10:12

the portal. And I don't know how

10:14

good CU's NIL

10:16

setup or situation is. I don't

10:18

know about the distribution. If three

10:20

guys are getting all of it

10:22

or not, we'll talk to Coach

10:24

Barnett tomorrow. But I really like

10:26

this because really, honestly Elijah,

10:28

the thing we're wondering about is that

10:32

running back spot at Nebraska. It's

10:35

concern may be too strong a word,

10:37

but it's a question. I'd say as spring

10:39

has progressed, it's shown itself to be the

10:42

biggest question mark within the hustle. How

10:44

big a question mark is it? I think we'll probably have a

10:46

better idea after Saturday in

10:49

terms of what we see on this field. We haven't

10:51

seen much from Dow Dell. What does he look like

10:53

on Saturday? I'm not willing to say

10:55

that the alarm bells are ringing. They might be

10:57

off in the distance with the running back position.

10:59

I can just say, absolutely,

11:01

it's the biggest question mark within the team.

11:03

It's the number one thing. On Saturday, I'm

11:05

going to say, I think we can have

11:07

a better idea because quarterbacks, it's one day

11:10

in front of the fans. You don't know. You

11:12

don't know how vanilla the offense is. You don't

11:14

know what type of defense is Tony White's going

11:16

to be drawing up out there. One

11:18

thing that you can always see in a spring game

11:20

is how hard does a running back run, how well

11:22

do they hit the holes? It's easy to tell after

11:24

a Saturday. I think as it stands right

11:27

now, maybe this changes by Saturday, maybe it doesn't. It's

11:29

at least the biggest question mark on the Husker team.

11:31

The one thing you don't have to worry

11:33

about with Nebraska though is their

11:36

commitment. You have 1890, you have NIL.

11:39

Nebraska may not be a leader with

11:46

being able to outbid an A&M or

11:49

a Texas or go down some schools,

11:51

but they're in the conversation. They're in

11:53

the conversation. They're competitive with

11:55

that, but you don't want

11:57

a kid. There's Just been a history of.

12:00

The of in decisiveness with Edwards we

12:02

just we just told you about is

12:04

recruiting story and not knock are blaming

12:06

I'm just saying what is and that

12:08

is on Stay home and case states

12:10

a good program spot. Here's Notre Dame

12:12

that's bright and shiny. totally get it

12:15

that mystique of Notre Dame. and then

12:17

here comes coach. Price. But a kid

12:19

performed. The kid played well, it worked

12:21

and I'm not going to hold that against Santa

12:23

Anita saying. Is is

12:25

round to. I mean how hard you

12:27

want to chase and is he leaving

12:30

because. You. Don't want to joke around

12:32

with competition. Is he leaving because the

12:34

and I else really light and bolder?

12:36

Is he leaving because it's a bleep

12:38

show in Colorado? Nine and when a

12:40

ballgame. So what's the Y Y Z

12:42

leave and Nebraska Weldon was no doubt

12:45

and. You have.

12:48

Reports from from on Three,

12:51

That's. Nebraska's gonna

12:53

make a really strong and hard porous

12:55

use a number one or number two

12:57

running back over on the state of

13:00

Kansas number eleven running back and the

13:02

classes twenty twenty four and down the

13:04

top. One. Eighty five prospect. So

13:06

not only was that what we're

13:09

supposed to happen coming in the

13:11

to college because performed well in

13:13

in in often silences, be honest

13:15

and emphasize the run against and

13:17

that's okay because he is a

13:19

dual thread running and receiving option

13:22

in a lot often says I

13:24

think as if Nebraska to get

13:26

him That makes you possibly feel

13:28

a lot better. but is it

13:30

a competition question or as and

13:32

then I'll question and right now

13:35

there's. Nothing in a good at

13:37

running back from me. Feel pretty

13:39

good about Emmett and you don't

13:41

know about the rest because injury

13:43

or inconsistency are just at the

13:45

a tractor feel. I.

13:47

Was he feel pretty good about. And. the

13:49

he feel all right of a what he showed

13:51

last year the question marks are still there with

13:53

him and really every single running back in that

13:55

room who's the guy to the how could anyone

13:58

differentiate themselves and show themselves to be eighth three

14:00

down running back in the Big Ten. I think that's

14:02

the big question mark with Emmet is is he gonna

14:04

hold up physically in the Big Ten

14:06

if it's gonna be a game plan of

14:08

him getting 15, 20 carries a

14:10

game? Does he hold up physically over the course of

14:12

a Big Ten season against the bruisers you're going up

14:14

against? Gabe Urban has to be able to make it

14:16

out of his season where Mir is coming off the

14:19

knee injury. There's just question marks with everyone. Dowdell

14:21

we barely even know anything about Dowdell. Didn't

14:24

get all that much playing time at Oregon. Flash in

14:26

his brief times but how does he adjust to the

14:28

Big Ten? Is he able to take the mantle for

14:30

himself? Just a lot of question marks. I don't think

14:32

it's question marks that would be erased if you get

14:34

Dylan Edwards into the boat but I think based on

14:36

what you saw at Colorado last year there's a place

14:38

in the offense for Dylan Edwards. I think you nail

14:41

it with the why is he leaving Colorado in terms

14:43

of is he a culture fit

14:45

with Nebraska? I think you see the talent and

14:47

say he's a talent fit but it's gotta be

14:49

about culture. Based on the talent Nebraska has in

14:51

the room I think Edwards would be a guy

14:53

that should he pick Nebraska would be getting a

14:55

lot of playing time at Nebraska. That's the way

14:57

I forecast the room right now. Obviously not being

14:59

there every single day but I think

15:01

Nebraska is going to make a push for him. I think he'd be a big

15:03

get. Nebraska was in the race

15:05

for him originally so I think that's a plus

15:07

and hey who wouldn't want to play with a

15:10

five star quarterback that seems to be living up

15:12

to it in spring football? Against Nebraska last

15:14

season nine carries 55 yards

15:16

that 34 yard run

15:19

where he made a couple of guys miss

15:21

and then hit the hole

15:23

and went for a while catching

15:26

the football. Nebraska did a pretty good job

15:28

on him three catches eight yards. Heisman

15:31

thoughts, Heisman thoughts. Do

15:33

you agree with Mr. Reggie Bush

15:36

getting his Heisman back? I'm

15:38

of the opinion I know

15:41

times are different now they weren't

15:43

then so do you reward cheating?

15:45

Do you reward cheating

15:47

and do

15:50

this butterfly effect thing and undo

15:52

history? If Reggie took

15:55

all those Extra Air

15:57

Quote benefits that got SC in

15:59

trouble. Did.

16:01

He deserve is Heisman back. My

16:04

question is if Reggie doesn't get me those payments,

16:06

Is he a worse running back on the field?

16:08

Does he not? When I when if you're not

16:10

getting paid. Still he still incredible on the field

16:12

but not incredible and up on fourth and one

16:14

against Texas. Lendale

16:16

White zone. This failed. Put Shroud next

16:18

got the call, but to date Reggie

16:21

was a ton of fun to watch.

16:23

Best player in college football. I'm not

16:25

arguing that Searle's his next Nfl draft.

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you doin? I'm good. it's been.

17:01

It's been a busy two weeks

17:03

here. Get ready for the draft

17:05

at probably made over three hundred

17:07

phone calls and talk. To anywhere between

17:10

four to five people on each Nfl

17:12

teams trying to paint a picture for

17:14

where our clients are in ago what

17:16

they look at prospects the whole bit

17:18

so I'm excited and stressed and nervous

17:20

and everything else for this weekend. but

17:22

it's It's such a fun weekend of

17:24

the year. Tell me about just sort

17:26

of your prospects, your clients and you

17:28

know what you're you're hoping for what

17:30

you think it about here are Thursday

17:32

through and through Saturday. yeah you know

17:34

so hopefully we have a day to

17:36

die. Ah Christian boy to detect lot

17:38

of Northern Iowa. who has just been through

17:40

the gauntlet of pre draft stuff ian of

17:42

avenue on fifteen thirty visits cleaning and max

17:44

combine so ah you might be the highest

17:47

drafted not combine guy was be awesome for

17:49

him and then i got three other alignment

17:51

a kid from north dakota state get from

17:53

liberty and get from august stana through the

17:55

guys should be day three picks know and

17:58

pfj in the hope in as in

18:00

the agency is no shattered dreams in May. So

18:02

hopefully everyone has a team come the end of

18:04

Saturday and away we go. Well, Charles,

18:07

tell me really fast here because we're experiencing this

18:09

with some Husker guys this year as well. How

18:11

does it work to be a

18:13

guy who doesn't get a combine invite but still

18:16

get some good looks from teams? Like what is

18:18

the communication like in terms of who gets a

18:20

combine invite? Obviously, no Huskers there this

18:22

year but still a couple of Huskers hoping

18:24

to get drafted. How does that entire process

18:26

work right there? Why does some guys end

18:28

up getting drafted so high even though they

18:30

aren't at the combine? Yeah, you know, so

18:32

the national, so there's two scouting services that

18:34

the NFL uses, national and blesto, right? And

18:36

national is the one that puts on the

18:38

combine and national football scouting, right? The NFS,

18:40

that's right, it's the national football combine. And

18:43

they have one or two scouts

18:45

per team that is designated the

18:47

national scout. And it's their

18:49

job to go through all the teams in the

18:51

spring and the fall and rank guys of who

18:53

should be combine invites and who should not be,

18:56

right? It's a tough job, it's a hard

18:58

thing to do. But sometimes guys just miss,

19:01

right? And the way it is, it's a voting

19:03

system. You have to have, I believe, 12 votes

19:05

or more. So 12

19:07

teams or more have to vote

19:09

and say, yes, I want to see

19:11

that guy at the combine or I wanna see

19:13

this guy at the combine. They've taken

19:15

the agents completely out of it. There's no

19:18

way to lobby a guy into the combine.

19:20

There's no way to pull a favor. Like

19:22

we are ex communicado from

19:24

the combine list, but

19:27

yeah, so every team has a national scout that

19:29

has to go through. And I mean, sometimes they

19:31

just miss on guys, right? It's usually the smaller

19:33

school guys, but there's guys time and time again

19:35

that don't go to the combine, that'll get drafted.

19:37

I mean, shoot, the guy

19:39

from the Rams last year ended

19:41

up going in the third round as a defensive tackle.

19:43

I can't believe I've said his name about a hundred

19:45

times and it's escaping me at the moment. Kobe Turner,

19:48

there it is. Kobe Turner went third round last year,

19:50

didn't go to the combine, finished second defensive player of

19:52

the year this year, right? So defensive rookie of the

19:54

year. So there's lots of good guys that go, not

19:57

to combine, up get drafted. Well, is there any

19:59

politicking? Understand the NFL is a game that

20:01

has a lot of policy is there any like Some

20:04

team thinks they found a diamond in the rough that

20:06

they don't want anybody else to know about They're gonna

20:08

act like they don't like him I think back to

20:10

Connor strange with the Patriots taking it first round a

20:12

couple years ago Yeah, a lot of teams thought they

20:14

had a diamond in the rough Nobody was talking about

20:16

him and then Patriots go and take him in the

20:18

first round Yeah you know sometimes but in this today

20:20

in today's era of I mean these guys have 20

20:23

people on staff that are scouts the idea of like

20:25

some people thought Christian might follow my D tackle He

20:27

might fall through the cracks like no he had 15

20:31

30 visits. So he was busy right no

20:33

longer a secret, right? It just doesn't work like

20:35

that anymore But I think there's a little politics as

20:37

far as like how many small guys small stool guys

20:39

Do we bring to the combine versus power five guys

20:41

and that piece like there's a little bit of that

20:43

that goes on Cyril's gonna

20:46

get your thoughts on the spring

20:48

game headline Sunday as Cyril's

20:50

gets his crystal ball out Headline

20:53

Sunday Donovan Rayola Wow, right? I think there's

20:55

gonna be a lot of that I mean

20:57

and it's not gonna be because he lights

21:00

the world on fire. It's just everyone's excited

21:02

to see him All right, everyone's excited to

21:04

see him in few have got to go to practice

21:06

But this is gonna be the first time I mean

21:08

we've been talking about Donovan. We've been talking about

21:11

Rayola since Last the

21:13

year in new areas right like and we've

21:15

rode the roller coaster of he loves us.

21:17

Oh, no, he hates us He's going to

21:19

Georgia. Oh, he's back. Oh, he's here Maybe

21:21

this is the first time Husker Nation is

21:23

getting it to lay eyes on this kid

21:25

as a Husker and it's gonna be

21:28

great I mean, I don't I hope that he doesn't

21:30

steal the show too much because there's a lot of

21:32

good talent there But I do think that the whole

21:34

show is gonna be around him rightfully So he's the

21:36

highest-ranked quarterback we've ever had right like that type of

21:38

thing So I think it's gonna be a lot of

21:40

him and a lot of Emma Johnson Yep,

21:42

hand it off and make a few throws

21:45

and away you go. What line

21:47

are you betting on? Are you betting

21:49

on pot roasts guys to win the

21:51

day the defensive line or

21:53

you think Donny Riola's offensive line? And we're

21:55

not gonna see a lot of guys that

21:57

have logged a lot of starts, but

22:00

of those younger pups? Yeah, you know,

22:02

it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting because it's not gonna

22:04

be the battles we're used to seeing, right? It's not gonna

22:06

be Ben Scott versus their tie and their

22:08

Nash upmaker, right? It's not gonna be Bryce Benhart

22:10

versus Ty Robinson. Like those dudes don't need to

22:12

play a lot of snaps in the spring game.

22:14

We need them in the fall, right?

22:17

You're gonna see guys like Evan

22:19

Jenkins versus Elijah Judy,

22:21

right? Like you're gonna see those type

22:23

of battles, which I'm excited for because

22:25

that's one position that the

22:27

D line last year this time question

22:29

marks everywhere, right? Who's the depth?

22:31

Who's the guys? Like, I didn't know anyone besides Nash

22:34

and Ty and I got Van Poppel, you got Kim

22:36

Lenhart, you got Elijah Judy, you got

22:38

all these dudes that have worked in there through the

22:40

fall, but we don't have that on the other side

22:42

of the ball, right? You got Ben Scott, you got

22:44

Bryce Benhart, who played a lot of football. Then

22:46

you've got a lot of new faces. You got

22:48

Teddy, who needs to stay healthy and looks like

22:50

he's made it through a spring. Thank goodness, right?

22:52

And then you've got some really young pups and

22:54

Gunner and some other young guys that you're just

22:56

waiting to see kind of who emerges to become

22:58

the next big guy that we're gonna need because

23:01

very rarely do all five starting offensive linemen make

23:03

it through a season healthy. So, Roles,

23:06

with the offensive line, some younger cats out there,

23:08

but some guys that I think you also expect

23:10

are gonna get some playing time in the fall,

23:12

whether it be because of injury, whether it be

23:14

because of garbage time, whether it be because of

23:18

just a guy making strides through the summer and through the fall

23:20

and working his way into his turn line. There's gonna be guys

23:22

out there that we see in the fall. And with those

23:24

guys, Matt Ruhl and Siderfield

23:26

talked a lot about the importance of the running

23:28

game, but now you have Dylan Riola behind you

23:30

at quarterback. Are you more concerned about their ability

23:33

to run block or pass a pick? What do

23:35

you think is gonna get these younger guys snaps

23:37

in the fall? I think it's run

23:39

blocking. You know, anytime you have a freshman quarterback,

23:41

regardless of how talented he is, you can't put

23:43

everything on his shoulders. It's just not fair to

23:45

him. It's not fair to him. It's

23:47

not fair to his teammates. Like, you're asking a kid

23:49

to fail. And what you want

23:51

to do is surround him with a super solid run game,

23:54

put him in a pass situations that are friendly, right? Not

23:56

live in, Hey, if we're gonna come out and throw the

23:58

ball three times, all of a sudden third and

24:00

10. No quarterback wants to be in third and 10.

24:03

Right. Let's be a good, efficient running the football team.

24:05

Put ourselves in second and man's will put ourselves in

24:07

third and short. Open up the play action game, get

24:09

the boot game going, get him rolling out, right? Don't

24:11

ask him to be a statue back there. And

24:14

so I really do think these young alignment are going to

24:16

take big strides in the run game to prove they're ready

24:18

to get out on the field because as much as rule

24:20

knows that, Hey, we're going to throw the football. That's why

24:22

we brought him here. He knows that in the big 10

24:25

games are one in loss, especially in November with

24:27

the ground. Searls,

24:29

let's spend a minute with the

24:32

gap, right? I'm anxious to see with

24:35

our own eyes the gap in that

24:37

quarterback race. I think we were all

24:40

thinking there's been separation by Dylan. Wonderful.

24:43

What's Harburg truly look like with

24:45

his improvement? Same with with Danny

24:47

Kay. But what's that gap

24:49

on the offensive line to your eyes? You've

24:51

seen some practices not asking you to bad

24:53

mouth, but you've got your starters and then

24:56

you've got the guys that will be called

24:58

upon at some point. Yeah. You

25:00

know, I think the gap's a little larger than

25:02

coach Rayla would like, and it's not really his,

25:04

it's nothing as far as just their young, but

25:06

it's just hard to ask a young player to come

25:09

in here and be ready to go. I mean, the

25:11

days of, Hey, you're going to red shirt

25:13

for a year. You're gonna get a developmental year. You're

25:15

going to put 20 pounds on. Like we don't have

25:17

that luxury right now in the offensive line room. Unfortunately,

25:19

we have guys that are here that are either true

25:22

freshmen or retro freshmen that we're going to need to

25:24

be called upon. And that puts you

25:26

in a tough spot as no line coach, because you

25:28

don't want to do that to hamper kids development, but

25:30

sometimes out of necessity, you just need to do it.

25:33

And it's not because the kid can't do it. He

25:35

just may not physically be ready yet. And that makes

25:37

it a really hard time to go out there when

25:39

you're trying to survive. You don't quite have all the

25:41

physical tools that you need coming from a guy that

25:43

started as a retro freshman and felt that a little

25:45

bit when I got out there. So

25:48

as we talk about, I guess the offensive

25:50

line, the rushing attack, there's been some rumors

25:52

out there that Nebraska has reached out to

25:54

Dylan Edwards, the running back from Colorado in

25:57

the transfer portal with that. Is that just

25:59

trying to acquire. talent or does that give you

26:01

some some warning bells in terms of

26:03

what the running back room is are you gonna

26:05

wait until Saturday or are you gonna also jump on

26:07

the bandwagon of people kind of like me who've become

26:09

a little bit concerned about the running back room through

26:12

the spring yeah you know the only reason I'm concerned

26:14

about the running back room is you look at who's

26:16

in it and you go okay like Gabe Ervin obviously

26:18

is great hasn't finished a season. Ramir

26:20

Johnson's coming off an injury right

26:23

Emmett Johnson is young looks like a promising

26:25

young back and then you got some other

26:27

unproven guys transfers in from Oregon they're like

26:29

you want to get a young guy which

26:31

Edwards is a freshman last year right you

26:33

want to get a young guy in here

26:35

that you're gonna say hey we're

26:37

gonna develop you for the next three years you're gonna

26:39

be our guy right like we don't have that guy

26:41

besides Emmett in the room and you want

26:43

two of those guys you always want to have two or three

26:46

backs because if there's a position that gets hurt more than any

26:48

other position it's the running back and we saw

26:50

it last year I mean once those guys started going

26:52

down the run game just went into the toilet and

26:55

so you want to make sure you have

26:57

a stable of running backs it's never a

26:59

bad thing to have too many running backs.

27:01

Searles talk to your Viking faithful about JJ

27:03

McCarthy. Stop I don't I'm not

27:06

a JJ McCarthy lover I haven't been since

27:08

the day he left Michigan I think

27:10

he's gonna get a guy fired like I don't

27:12

I don't I'm not a believer I'm sorry I'm

27:15

not and I planted this flag a long time

27:17

ago and people tried to move me off my

27:19

spot but if I'm looking at

27:21

the top tier quarterbacks it goes Caleb

27:24

Drake May, Jayden Daniels, PENIX McCarthy like

27:26

that's how I that's how I have

27:28

them listed it probably doesn't go that

27:30

way but I think the Vikings if Drake

27:32

May is not there at three I think they sit at 11

27:35

and see who's still there. Last

27:37

thought here Jeremiah Searles with his NFL draft

27:40

thoughts and of course

27:42

spring football thoughts with Nebraska on

27:44

Saturday. Searles I want to get

27:46

your thought on on that move that bump

27:48

up from college to the

27:50

NFL what's that experience like for

27:52

a college guy to then make

27:54

the jump into the NFL locker

27:56

rooms locker rooms or is it

27:58

a different animal in the NFL? Totally

28:01

different beasts, right? I mean totally different beasts.

28:03

You come into college with a group of

28:05

guys that you know you're gonna spend the

28:07

next four years with, right? Hey, we're all

28:09

freshmen, we're enjoying this, this is fun. Like

28:11

you walk into an NFL locker room and

28:14

there's a 33 year old dude there that's married,

28:16

has two kids and he looks at you like,

28:18

you think you're taking my job? Good luck, right?

28:21

And sometimes it's not a very friendly place to be.

28:23

And then you come in with a bunch of rookies,

28:25

you're like, oh, this is fun, right? And then you

28:27

just start slowly seeing them all get chopped away, right?

28:29

Oh, there goes another one, there goes another one.

28:31

And the reality of, wow, this dream

28:33

can be over at any minute really starts to set in,

28:35

right? And it's just one of

28:38

those things where it's completely different. It's not

28:40

your job. It's very taken seriously. There's no

28:42

scholarship. Like it's a performance based deal, highest

28:45

stress, high reward, but one of the most

28:47

cool things you'll ever do. Who made

28:50

you second guess walking into that

28:52

locker room? King Dunlap, 610, 350

28:54

pounds of him. One of the first person I met when I

28:57

walked into the charters locker room and I was

28:59

like, I don't know if I'm going to be

29:02

able to do this. And then the second person

29:04

was DJ fluke came up and shook my forearm

29:06

with his hands. And I was like, what

29:09

is happening? And what planet did I go to?

29:11

Like there's no way

29:13

I can figure this out, but I did. We

29:15

made it work, but those two humans showed me

29:17

that like the NFL is a different piece. Searle's

29:19

enjoyed draft weekend. Best to you and your clients.

29:22

Thanks for a few minutes. We

29:24

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30:11

spring week, spring game week is here, how are

30:13

you doing man? Yeah, I'm doing

30:16

okay, I agree with everything Jeremiah Searle said, I

30:18

appreciate you having me on and I'll talk

30:20

to you next week. Well no, thank

30:22

you for rearranging the schedule. I

30:25

think it's funny how you introduced this week

30:27

your spring week in Nebraska which is a

30:29

great way to describe spring in Nebraska and

30:31

it's only be a week long. You're blanking,

30:33

you miss it. Well

30:36

Mike we want to get into some Heisman

30:38

thoughts, Reggie Bush getting his Heisman back, Eric

30:41

Crouch re-tweeting that and

30:43

you've been a Heisman voter since the

30:46

Barry Sanders era, correct? Yeah,

30:49

yeah, I'm

30:52

trying to think, it might have even

30:54

been a little bit before 88 but yeah

30:59

I've had the opportunity and

31:02

I think there's like 16 or 17 voters in the state

31:07

and there's a lot of passion. I

31:09

kind of oversee the list now and

31:12

there's so much interest

31:15

and there are so many media outlets

31:17

now and it's, well

31:21

I'll give an example, they've got a

31:23

rule, you have to replace somebody if

31:26

they miss two consecutive seasons of voting, if they

31:28

don't get their ballot in at time. I've

31:31

taken that to,

31:33

if you miss one season I'm going to replace

31:35

you because there are so many people who want

31:37

to do it, who want to be involved in

31:39

it and you know

31:42

there's just a lot of interest

31:44

I think in being involved in

31:47

voting for the Heisman Trophy and you

31:49

know people call

31:51

it college football and

31:55

have the expertise to do that. Mike

31:57

did you take away any votes for people who did not vote?

32:00

vote for Indomikun Sioux in 2009. No,

32:04

I don't have any control over that

32:06

part. I don't really know what people.

32:09

Mike ruling with an iron fist. For

32:11

whom they vote, I don't know. Well, you

32:13

know from Mike Babcock, he says I voted

32:16

for Colt McCoy and therefore I know nothing

32:18

about college football. You have not only lost

32:20

your vote, you have been exiled from the

32:22

state. But we wanted to kind of get

32:24

into some Heisman rights and

32:27

wrongs as many feel

32:29

that it was wrong to take Reggie's

32:31

Heisman. He was the best player

32:33

in college football that year. Things

32:36

crept up about improper benefits.

32:39

SC had wins vacated. Reggie's

32:42

Heisman went goodbye. And

32:44

Elijah and I kind of went through

32:46

some years where, okay,

32:49

you have 1997 Heisman where Woodson

32:51

was incredible, but

32:55

folks are still ticked that Peyton Manning

32:58

didn't get the nod. That's

33:01

pretty common. You've got Sioux

33:04

around these parts for sure. I

33:06

mean, he finished fourth, but

33:09

Mark Ingram got the Heisman nod

33:13

over Toby Gerhardt, Colt McCoy

33:15

and Dama Konsu. Sam

33:17

Bradford had an amazing 0-8 season,

33:20

got the nod over Tebow, Larry

33:23

Fitzgerald, really good season, Jason

33:25

White, video game numbers. And

33:28

so what's your reaction to

33:31

Bush? And I'm not

33:33

asking who you voted for, but is this

33:35

shortlist pretty good when it comes to Heisman

33:37

arguments we came up with? Well,

33:41

yeah, and Tommy Fraser, you

33:43

know, there was an argument there, I

33:45

think. Ninety-five for

33:47

Eddie George. Yeah, with Eddie

33:49

George. And

33:51

I don't know if, you

33:54

know, each state has,

33:57

I think, a different number of voters depending on the

33:59

state. on the size

34:02

of the population. Different electoral. So

34:05

it's more like the House of Representatives. Got it. How

34:07

that goes. But, you know, and

34:10

the country is divided into sections

34:12

and I think each section has

34:14

the same number of votes.

34:17

So that's a good thing. But

34:21

yeah, I was in favor

34:23

of Reggie Bush getting

34:25

the Heisman back. I think that

34:29

from my point of view, USC paid

34:31

the penalty for the

34:33

violations. You know, there were

34:35

the number of scholarship players they could

34:37

have was reduced over a period, maybe

34:40

just one season or I don't know if it

34:43

was more than that. And

34:47

so I look at it from that

34:49

standpoint. Was he the best player in

34:51

college football? That's what the vote showed.

34:54

And I thought he should have. I

34:56

don't know that he should have lost the

34:58

Heisman because again, the school

35:01

paid the penalty, paid the

35:03

price for what happened there

35:05

as I think should have been the case.

35:09

And the other thing is because he was

35:11

so good and because he was high profile

35:13

and because he played for a

35:15

program, a national championship

35:17

contender while he was there.

35:20

And what they win a couple while he was there.

35:22

They won it in 03. I

35:25

think they split it in 03. They

35:28

won it in 04. SC

35:31

destroyed Oklahoma, 05 Texas

35:34

and Vince Young beat him. Okay.

35:37

Okay. So you're playing

35:39

in a program that is that high

35:41

profile. Things

35:44

come out about your situation

35:47

that probably don't come

35:49

out about other players.

35:51

I'm saying that I don't think he

35:53

was probably the only player that

35:55

received illegal

35:58

benefits. If

36:00

that makes any sense. He

36:03

was on a, he was on a, he

36:06

was part of a program that got caught

36:08

with illegal benefits. Yeah. Yeah. And again, because

36:10

of where it stood in the whole scheme

36:12

of things, the success that that

36:15

program was having and the

36:17

success that he had through a spotlight

36:19

on him that produced, uh,

36:22

you know, evidence of what had

36:25

happened. But again, the school

36:27

paid the price as it should have. I

36:29

didn't think that he shouldn't have lost the trophy because

36:32

I thought that he was

36:34

the player that deserved it. Well, and also to

36:36

add to it, like it was

36:39

a landslide that year. He was by far and

36:41

away the best player in college football. We all

36:43

knew it. I mean, he got almost, Vince was

36:45

pretty sweet too, but, but Reggie got almost 800

36:48

of the almost 900 first place votes. Like

36:50

he almost took 90% of

36:53

the Heisman voters, uh, votes

36:55

as the first place guy. Like it was an

36:58

absolute landslide. That's with a, that's with the previous

37:00

Heisman winner hand and off to it. Well, look

37:02

at the, look at the players you got, like

37:04

the top four that year, Bush, uh,

37:06

Vince young, Matt liner, Brady Quinn. He wanted over

37:08

some good players and it wasn't a complete landslide.

37:10

That's how good he was. He wanted over an

37:13

incumbent Babers. We've got about 30 seconds

37:16

before a hard break. Can we keep you on the other

37:18

side? Talk to you. All right. No,

37:23

you're good. Mike Babcock is with

37:25

us from Hale varsity and hurt

37:27

at sports. Uh, Bill Bender are

37:29

going to join us from the sporting news, his take

37:31

on the NFL draft and Nebraska

37:33

football. Okay. Yes. So

37:37

I want to quickly get one last thought from Mike

37:39

on the Heisman if possible, Mike, if

37:41

you were in charge, would you be giving

37:43

that that Heisman to Sue in 2009? I

37:46

know you can't do it now, but would you? I

37:48

would have, but I, you know, I don't,

37:51

there haven't been any players. I mean,

37:54

Woodson is the one

37:56

guy that comes comes closest to not

37:58

being a. offensive

38:00

player, you

38:02

know, solely an offensive player, right? That

38:05

is who won that award. It's kind of a, you

38:08

kind of look to the Lombardian outland for those kind

38:10

of guys. But yeah, I thought this was who deserved

38:13

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38:28

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38:30

on the way NFL Draft and Nebraska

38:32

thoughts. Year two for

38:34

rule, Mike, what do you expect

38:36

to learn Saturday with Nebraska, Dylan

38:38

Riola, and the running back

38:41

room? You

38:43

know, I do agree with Jeremiah. I think

38:45

the focus is going to be on Dylan

38:47

Riola, the opportunity to see him. And

38:51

I think the

38:53

spring game is like recruiting,

38:56

okay? When you recruit somebody,

38:59

they're as good as you want them to be

39:01

as your imagination can make them until they get

39:03

on the field. And then you find out

39:05

whether they can play or not. Same

39:07

way with the spring game. I think people come

39:10

away with optimism in the spring, from what they

39:12

see in the spring game because

39:14

the team can be as good as

39:17

you want it to be at that point from

39:19

what you see out there until

39:22

you get to the fall and you start playing

39:24

games. So I think people will

39:26

come away with optimism.

39:29

I think they'll come away with the evaluation

39:33

of the quarterbacks. I think that's

39:35

obviously the focus with Riola probably

39:38

at the top of that. But you want to see how Harvard

39:41

has improved. You

39:43

want to see Kaitlyn, see what he

39:45

can do out there

39:48

because I think the competition will

39:50

continue in the fall even though we

39:53

don't really have a good idea where things stand

39:55

right now. And

39:57

we're going to see limited. first-string

40:02

guys, offensive and defensive line. We're not going to

40:04

see a whole lot of that because you're going

40:07

to get guys in there that

40:09

you want to get some experience. And you know guys

40:12

that are coming back that have that kind

40:14

of experience that you want, and you

40:16

want to keep them healthy for

40:18

the fall. So I think it's

40:21

going to be optimism that

40:24

you're going to feel good about what

40:26

you see from the team. And you

40:28

know you should because I

40:30

think that rule has a

40:33

good approach to what he is trying to

40:36

do here. I think the players

40:38

are buying in. I think he

40:40

holds players accountable. I think he

40:42

holds assistant coaches accountable. I think

40:44

he holds himself accountable. And

40:46

I think those are all things that

40:48

are going to make this team reason

40:52

for optimism going

40:54

into the fall. Mike, whenever

40:56

we discuss the spring game last night, here about

40:58

60 seconds. Last year it was eight fumbles where

41:00

we looked and said that's concerning, but at least

41:02

there's time to get it fixed. Like what is

41:04

your take on there's going to be concerns that come out of

41:06

the spring game. That's how it goes just about every single year.

41:08

How much stock do you put into any of that? Well,

41:13

not a lot. It's kind of like what the

41:15

rule said. You know the head coach, you're

41:20

the head coach. You're watching the spring game. The

41:22

offense goes down on scores. You feel good about

41:24

the offense, but you don't feel good about the

41:26

defense. The

41:28

defense intercepts the ball, recovers a fumble or

41:30

whatever. You feel good about the defense. You

41:32

don't feel good about the offense. So it's

41:35

like you don't win either way kind

41:37

of a thing. But I think it's the same way

41:39

with fans. You have to look at it that way.

41:43

And you don't want that many

41:45

turnovers again. That's not something. If

41:47

that happens, maybe that optimism that

41:49

I'm talking about is not quite there. It's

41:53

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42:08

Thanks for giving us time today.

42:10

I always appreciate you man. Hey,

42:13

thanks for having me guys. There he is. Mike

42:15

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42:19

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42:24

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43:04

Draft with the senior writer for the

43:06

sporting news. Bill Bender back with us

43:08

at Bill Bender 92. Bill,

43:11

you're making your way to Detroit or

43:13

is it the recliner for the draft

43:15

man? Should be a pretty good spectacle

43:17

Thursday. Thanks for the time. Oh

43:20

yeah. I'm going to be home. And you know,

43:22

we're kind of a draft veteran there at the

43:24

sporting news. We just had our final draft meeting.

43:27

It's kind of around the same

43:29

place every year. We do the winners, losers.

43:31

We follow along. We have a ton, a

43:34

ton of pre-draft content for your

43:36

listeners to catch up on all those

43:38

first round decisions. A lot

43:40

of first round intrigue and,

43:42

you know, the quarterback class

43:44

is always scrutinized and a

43:47

lot of good options. Is it,

43:49

boom or bust with that position?

43:51

Deep wide receiver draft, ton of

43:53

offensive tackles, some edge guys. I'm

43:57

probably missing some of the spots, but you know.

44:00

the spots that make the money and

44:02

also cause for sale signs to go in

44:04

front yards. So as you look at this,

44:07

as much college football as you see and

44:09

you know, what

44:11

do you make of this quarterback class just as a

44:13

whole? Well, I

44:15

mean, you could add, well, a couple of things. There's

44:17

two layers to this to me. There, there could be

44:19

six quarterback drafted in the first round. You

44:22

can see JJ McCarthy, a team like Minnesota

44:24

trade up for him. You could

44:26

see Michael Pennicks and Bo Nicks go in the first

44:28

round. And if you

44:30

look at next year, and I'm cheating by a

44:32

day because we'll have this tomorrow, you look at

44:34

the top quarterbacks in next year's draft, you might

44:37

want to get your guy now because

44:40

next year we're going to be talking about Shador

44:42

Sanders, possibly Glenn Ewers,

44:45

and then it's a ton of guys that are

44:48

going to have to prove themselves next year. Uh,

44:51

so yeah, I mean, the, the, the five,

44:53

six quarterbacks go in the first round. Outside

44:55

chance you get forward, fourth quarterback's going the

44:57

first four picks. Bill

45:00

Bender with us here on Hale Vars city radio.

45:02

And Bill, when you talk about the quarterbacks here

45:04

is the, is the smoke around

45:06

JJ McCarthy that we've seen over the weekend

45:09

potentially going number two. Do you think that's

45:11

real? Do you think that's agents throwing that

45:13

around? Do you think that's teams throwing smoke

45:15

screens? What's your take on just the

45:17

drama we've seen with JJ McCarthy, at least according

45:20

to the sports books, his odds of going number

45:22

two have skyrocketed. Well, I

45:24

mean, it could happen. And you know, I've written a lot

45:26

about him, as you guys know, cover the big 10

45:29

pretty closely and I have a

45:31

different opinion on McCarthy than most, because I

45:33

think it's worth it. I, you

45:35

know, I saw a guy at Michigan and

45:37

you guys know this from watching the Michigan,

45:39

Nebraska game last year. He didn't,

45:41

they didn't ask him to do too much, but

45:44

when they did, he made plays. He

45:46

made plays on third down. He made plays

45:48

on fourth down. He's got those leadership qualities

45:50

that NFL pipes love. And

45:52

you know, I see him and

45:55

I'm getting made fun of a little bit in our

45:57

office about this comparison, but I see him as a.

46:00

guy that could have a career that's very

46:02

similar to Jim Harball who on

46:05

one hand was never you know the

46:07

best quarterback in the league on

46:09

the other he played 15 seasons.

46:13

Kirk Cousins asks what do you say is

46:15

that the modern comparison? That's not a bad

46:17

comparison either and if you're getting Kirk Cousins

46:19

you can't say hey that's

46:21

bad you know the one I always use in Texas

46:24

my buddies I was like you can't

46:26

say like Jay Cutler

46:28

and Andy Dalton had bad NFL

46:30

careers they played for a

46:32

very long time they just didn't have success

46:34

in the playoffs and you know McCarthy's

46:37

a guy I really like and now would I take him

46:39

over those first three quarterbacks?

46:42

No I wouldn't take him over Caleb or

46:44

Drake I'd have the

46:47

internal conversation with Jayden but

46:49

I still think I would take Jayden Daniels over him.

46:51

Bill I'm a Bears guy and obviously it's

46:53

gonna be a big night on draft night

46:55

for the Bears with the first pick I'm

46:58

curious about your thoughts regarding the ninth pick

47:00

what direction do you think Chicago is gonna

47:02

go there? Well you

47:04

know I'm a Packers guy so I hope the wrong

47:06

direction. You should have

47:09

seen that coming. Well played. So no

47:11

I think receiver right is that what you want is

47:14

a but which one do

47:16

you want and there's no wrong answer so a

47:18

couple interesting things here I've been reading

47:20

today you know whether it was from

47:22

the athletic and talk about it that

47:24

Malik neighbors could be the first receiver

47:27

taken in this draft which I find

47:29

very intriguing because of this speed

47:31

what he was able to do if the Bears

47:33

were some I would you be most I'll ask

47:35

you this back would you be most excited if

47:38

the Bears somehow got Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison

47:40

out of this first round? That's what I was

47:42

gonna follow up with because there has been a

47:44

lot of smoke with Marvin Harrison jr. I would

47:46

personally be excited about that just because I've watched

47:48

a ton of them him being in the big

47:50

ten just like the whole JJ McCarthy situation but

47:53

yeah that smoke is really interesting to me

47:56

and as a Bears fan I would be more

47:58

than okay with that app But you know,

48:00

I think any wide receiver that you can

48:02

have at pick nine is probably going to be in that

48:05

upper echelon Right and Rome

48:07

could still be there in Rome not a

48:09

consolation prize. He's really good You

48:12

know, especially in the contest catches

48:14

could form a dynamic connection with Caleb Williams

48:16

And you know again as a green Bay

48:18

guy I'm not liking this that Caleb's gonna

48:20

be in the division and that JJ McCarthy

48:22

is gonna be in the division potentially because

48:24

I like both of those quarterbacks You

48:27

know the other thing to watch is who makes the move if

48:30

someone makes the move for Drake May

48:32

the North Carolina quarterback that Continues,

48:35

you know, he probably around that

48:37

two or three range. I love Drake

48:39

May's game I do I'm biased

48:41

though because I wrote a profile on him a couple

48:44

years ago and Just love

48:46

listening to him. You can tell

48:49

he's an all-ball type guy It's

48:51

Bill Binder with us here on hail varsity

48:53

radio talking some NFL draft and Bill Connors

48:55

the the Bears guy I'm the Broncos

48:57

guy. I'm not gonna ask you about the Broncos.

48:59

I just need a blindfold in the cigarette for the

49:01

draft Whatever happens happens. We'll see I've already been beaten

49:04

down by the uniforms and Zach Wilson this week We

49:06

don't talk about the Broncos anymore But I do want

49:08

to piggyback on Connors question here I think the Bears

49:10

have a really unique opportunity in this draft to really

49:13

build something I like the roster that they have they

49:15

can bring in a quarterback They can bring in a

49:17

wide receiver one and kind of saw what happened whenever

49:19

the Texans were able to bring in a really

49:22

good Quarterback last year wide receiver one with a roster

49:24

that was closer than a lot of other teams picking

49:26

the top five They're a playoff team not saying the

49:28

Bears gonna be a playoff team next year But I

49:30

want to get your thoughts on a team that you

49:32

think can really make a jump next season if they're

49:34

able to Really have a successful draft and

49:37

get a good crop of rookies. Well,

49:39

I mean you've seen what Detroit I think

49:41

teams might start following the Detroit model of

49:43

just Yeah Aggressive

49:45

and taking who you want to take regardless of

49:48

what the critics say, right? Like we kind of

49:50

picked on the Lions about taking Jamir

49:53

and Jack Campbell last year

49:55

and or La Porta. He's not so much report.

49:57

I kind of knew he's gonna be alright, But.

50:00

Those. Guys were all contributors. Gonna Taylor

50:02

played the had a few championship a

50:04

botched so take the Philo bit of

50:07

that. I'm. Very. Intrigued to see

50:09

what the Chargers do with Jim Harbaugh and

50:11

his first draft. And and that's the theme

50:13

I'm kind of. I'm because. What?

50:16

Does he do to swam? Justin.

50:18

Her. but they are the one team and

50:20

multiply That I can honestly say. I.

50:22

Really have no clue what it is

50:24

that comes from the experience of coverage

50:26

Jim Harbaugh. What? I did you ever tell

50:28

my attorney? you know I know have. I don't have a clue

50:31

what he's of the study and I was perfectly right on those

50:33

one. Bill. Let's

50:35

talk a minute here about team

50:37

of William Zola, lot of flat

50:39

leading up to the draft, things

50:41

have settled down a little bit.

50:45

Once you project him as in

50:47

the league you look at him

50:49

as a guide. It's gonna be

50:52

pro bowler, better savior, a decent

50:54

and I to be stays healthy.

50:56

Really good starter or could be

50:59

an issue that that ends up.

51:02

On. Another team at some point is you

51:04

know you hear Well I had says

51:06

it's gonna happen especially at quarterback is

51:08

when you go number one. Overall it's

51:10

not. A sure thing.

51:13

So does your sweet doors yeah activists gotta

51:15

for this compares like of my that are

51:17

built church he made it. Consider.

51:19

Career Trajectory: Very similar to Cam

51:21

Newton. And Super Bowl. Lot

51:23

of reasons why. remember we used to

51:25

dissect was a bit more to the

51:27

press conference every that. I. Was

51:30

always annoyed by the story because I

51:32

think it took away from the tower

51:34

the victim had on the field. And.

51:36

He made that run. Was. The Panthers, The

51:38

Superbowl and I remember how they rallied around

51:40

them. but when I first hokum know him

51:43

that out there was much more controversy around

51:45

him in college. I don't think feel about

51:47

it. Onto. Versed in college, Now.

51:49

I'm in the people. Wanna.

51:52

look at his fingernails and wanna ill

51:54

take it at his clothing choices which

51:56

i really don't care about i can't

51:58

say rather nfl teams do whether the

52:00

guys in the locker room will, I don't think

52:02

they will, because it comes down to winning football

52:04

games and making plays and he can do that.

52:06

And if he builds, if

52:09

he turns Chicago into a winner, a

52:11

franchise that is so starved, I

52:14

don't have to tell you that, starved for quarterback play

52:16

and all those things, he'll

52:18

become a celebrity instantly. I'll

52:22

just say, I made the comparison earlier, I see

52:24

a rookie season like CJ Strive for

52:27

Caleb Blanton. He's in Chicago, I

52:29

think he's got way too much talent. We'll

52:31

see how he fits into a locker room, that's kind of the question

52:33

to me. I love Caleb Williams

52:35

though, despite all the... You guys are driving

52:37

me nuts in there. I didn't

52:39

think CJ do what he did this soon,

52:41

but he was awesome. He was great. I

52:45

said last year on this time, I thought he should go

52:47

number one, but nobody listens to Elijah Herbal. No.

52:50

CJ was sick and because of the size

52:53

and the accuracy that we saw at Ohio

52:55

State, and that's one thing CJ

52:57

punched through that Caleb's going to

52:59

have to punch through is,

53:01

there was a stigma, there still is around

53:03

Ohio State quarterbacks in the NFL. And I

53:06

mean, you guys, can I... I'll go down the

53:08

list, but first round QBs from USC

53:10

in recent seasons. Those are guys like, I mean,

53:13

you have to go back to Carson Palmer had a good

53:15

career, but I mean, Darnold, Leiner, Todd

53:18

Murrigo, all the way back to Todd Marenovic,

53:20

that's not one. He's going

53:23

to have to be that USC quarterback that really

53:25

shows up as a first round QB.

53:27

I think the talent fair, I like

53:29

what he does the game. You know,

53:32

he had a rough season last year. I

53:34

think the one concern I would have about

53:36

Caleb Williams is, go

53:38

back and watch that middle game game and how

53:40

flustered he got in that game. I'm very rare

53:42

and I don't think very good defense that he's

53:44

faced. And that's going to be

53:46

the NFL game. He's going to have to stay on

53:48

script more than he likes, if that makes sense, because

53:51

I don't like the Patrick Mahomes comparison. To

53:54

me, there's only one Patrick Mahomes. Bill

53:57

Benders with us here on AL Barr City Radio.

54:00

about the guy Consensus number one, give me a

54:02

guy that you think might fall down

54:04

the draft boards, a guy that is a bit of a

54:06

sleeper pick, who's the guy that you like that you think

54:08

has a long and fruitful NFL career despite not being a

54:10

guy who's top 15, top 20 off the board?

54:14

Well, Brock Powers might slip. Why wouldn't you

54:16

take Brock Powers? It's my

54:19

question. I mean, I go some of

54:21

the time when I do these things and as somebody

54:23

that concentrates more in the college football game, I just

54:25

like, like I dominated college for the last

54:28

two years. I'm a guy on the

54:30

field every time I watch Georgia play and despite

54:32

the injury, he was awesome. So he's a

54:34

guy to watch. Jared

54:37

versus another guy that fits in that discussion

54:39

to me, you know, Florida State doll. Every

54:42

time I watch Florida State, it didn't take me

54:44

long to find Jared verse on the tape. And

54:47

those are the guys that I think do well at the

54:49

next level. Some interest to see, I got a sleeper for

54:51

you. Guy out of Toledo guy. I

54:53

don't even think he's a sleeper. Now we all know

54:55

who Kenyon Mitchell is. Corner

54:58

from Toledo. The last couple of drafts

55:01

have produced awesome corners. Household man's a

55:03

corner. He's probably not that, but

55:06

I mean, he's got it all. And I think he'll

55:08

do very well at the next level. Guy I'm rooting

55:10

for is Michael Penix Jr.

55:12

I hope he lands in a great

55:14

spot. I loved what he

55:16

did in Indiana. Loved him in Washington. I

55:18

know he's got the knee and the medical

55:21

history. Guy's just a baller. Do

55:23

you think he can have a successful career? Yes,

55:26

I can. And I think the Raiders

55:28

are such a make sense spot there.

55:31

I hope that happens. You

55:34

know, one thing with him, his

55:36

draft stop really fluctuated in the

55:38

college football play out. He went

55:40

from no, obviously the monster game

55:42

at Texas where the ball barely

55:44

touched the turf to

55:47

the Michigan guys were in his face all night.

55:49

And that was a long night for him. So

55:53

I think he'll have to improve under

55:55

pressure and with the blitz coming, which

55:57

is something that obviously all in

55:59

a focus. quarterbacks have to learn. But it's not far

56:01

as a guy that's definitely got through

56:03

injuries and we've all seen the

56:06

story he's had. Yeah, definitely happy for him. I

56:08

just wanted to touch on another Big Ten guy

56:11

from Michigan because we talked about JJ McCarthy. But

56:13

Blake Corum, I'm seeing that he's kind

56:15

of on that, you know, late first round,

56:17

early second round kind of fringe line. Where

56:19

do you see him ending up? What's a

56:21

good situation for Blake? Well, I

56:23

mean, I think he looks to

56:25

me a little bit like Devin Singletary

56:28

did with Buffalo. You

56:30

know, like an undersized running back

56:32

that will do all right. But,

56:35

you know, I mean, there's a

56:37

little bit of an injury history. The size is the thing

56:39

that they get on with Blake Corum. But

56:41

certainly a guy that's going to have success

56:43

at the next level. One thing about Blake

56:45

Corum covered in the last couple years, best

56:49

locker room guy possible. Best

56:51

guy possible to have. Scored a ton

56:53

of touchdowns. Love his vision and feet.

56:55

I do think the Devin Singletary comparison,

56:58

maybe not a star player at the next level,

57:00

but he will contribute. And I think he'll have

57:02

a nice NFL career. We're

57:04

going to talk a little college football here,

57:06

Bill, while we got you, Bill Bender, Sporting

57:09

News Catch Sporting news.com with their draft coverage.

57:11

Senior writer with us here at Bill

57:14

Bender 92 on Twitter is where you follow

57:16

Bill. Spring Game is Saturday

57:18

for Nebraska. A lot of good

57:20

work and word on the quarterbacks.

57:22

Just the jump with Glenn Thomas

57:24

coaching them specifically.

57:27

But interested to get your thoughts

57:29

here, Bill, as you

57:31

look at Nebraska and

57:34

the year two jump, you're

57:36

anticipating for Nebraska with

57:39

Coach Rule. A lot coming back on

57:41

defense and a better

57:43

quarterback situation, presumably without the

57:46

turnover bug for Nebraska next

57:48

season. I think you know who

57:50

we're going to be watching in the spring game. This quarterback

57:53

that's a freshman, that

57:56

Ryle was definitely going to have our eyes on

57:58

him. And you know where does this come from? to

58:00

go with that rule. Obviously he created some

58:02

momentum, but momentum is really real through

58:07

recruiting. And I think

58:09

that's helpful. So I'm excited to watch

58:11

Nebraska. I'm going to check that game

58:13

out this weekend. I know the crowd

58:15

will be there and we're wrapping up

58:17

spring football and with the

58:19

portal coming, I'm wondering how much

58:22

love we're going to see with Nebraska and where their

58:24

placement is going to be in this

58:26

much larger Big 10, but they're going

58:28

to be in that second to third tier

58:30

and team. We're going to have a really

58:32

close watch on because of the quarterback situation

58:34

and premium with Riola. Especially we'll

58:37

see if Nebraska takes that step forward. Bill

58:39

Bender with this sporting news at Bill Bender

58:41

92 on Twitter. Bill

58:43

will check in again soon. Thanks for a few

58:46

minutes. Hey, no problem.

58:48

You guys enjoy the draft and thanks as always. Good

58:50

stuff from Bill Bender. We'll dive back

58:53

into the visitor weekend. Evan Bland joining

58:55

us from the world Herald. That's

58:57

on the way. And

59:01

now, and now back

59:03

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59:06

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to six tomorrow. And we'll be

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there again Saturday to dead eight

59:17

to 10 for the pregame show

59:20

before Nebraska's spring game. Evan Bland joins

59:22

us now from the Omaha world. Harold,

59:24

that Evan Bland, O. W. H on

59:27

Twitter. Evan, a lot to get into.

59:29

How you doing, man? Doing

59:31

all right. How are you guys? We're good. We

59:33

are good. We'll get into some big red baseball

59:35

in a moment. Tough one last night. What

59:38

you take here on Dylan Edwards, the,

59:40

uh, well, the product

59:42

from Derby high school, the Dylan

59:44

Derby here with K state, uh,

59:47

Kansas. It looks like A and M in Nebraska.

59:49

How nice a fit do you think he could

59:52

be for the Nebraska running back room portal wise?

59:55

Well, I think he could be a fit for quite a

59:57

few schools out there. I mean, you think about his. pedigree

1:00:00

out of high school, he was someone who

1:00:02

could catch passes, who could run between the

1:00:05

tackles, who had the speed, and

1:00:07

he showed it in

1:00:09

flashes at Colorado last year.

1:00:11

And so this is the world of

1:00:13

college athletics that we're living in now

1:00:15

where a guy

1:00:17

commits somewhere and you just kind of put a pin

1:00:19

in it and say, okay, let's see what

1:00:22

happens in a year or two. And

1:00:24

sure enough, he's back on the market and you

1:00:27

would think the home state schools would have

1:00:31

their say and have their audience as

1:00:33

he makes his decision. Oftentimes

1:00:36

guys at this point of

1:00:38

the calendar year especially go in kind of

1:00:41

knowing where they're going to end up. I

1:00:43

don't know that that's the case with Dylan

1:00:47

or what his situation is exactly,

1:00:49

but certainly when you look at his abilities

1:00:51

and you look at Nebraska's running

1:00:53

back room, which is a mix of

1:00:56

older guys, there are some injuries there,

1:00:58

some younger unproven players, you could

1:01:00

see a scenario certainly where he could come in

1:01:02

and add a different element,

1:01:05

a little bit of college experience to that room

1:01:07

as well. So we've seen

1:01:10

Nebraska already be quick in its

1:01:12

edition of Vince Genetone from Montana

1:01:14

earlier this week, yesterday. And

1:01:18

so it does seem that Nebraska is interested

1:01:20

and I guess we'll just see how mutual

1:01:22

that interest is. I don't want to

1:01:24

get your thoughts on Vince Genetone here in

1:01:26

just a second, but first with the Nebraska

1:01:29

running back room, I think as spring has

1:01:31

gone on it's become pretty clear that there's

1:01:33

more question marks there than anywhere else on

1:01:35

the team. My question to you is, have

1:01:37

those question marks reached the point of warning

1:01:39

bells to you? Are you

1:01:41

concerned about that running back room or are question marks just that question

1:01:43

mark? Yeah, I

1:01:45

mean I think there's just a lot of unknowns. I don't know

1:01:47

that it's any worse than

1:01:50

last year's running back room. Like

1:01:53

I think maybe the outlook

1:01:55

on that room would have been different if

1:01:57

Gabe Ervin had had a healthy season. Johnson

1:02:00

had had a healthy season

1:02:02

and you know that as it stood they

1:02:04

both missed most of the year with injuries

1:02:07

and so we got a look at Emmett Johnson who I

1:02:09

thought was you know

1:02:11

impressive in the chances that he got he's probably

1:02:13

the guy that I've heard the

1:02:15

most positive things from as far as coaches

1:02:17

and players and what he can do in

1:02:20

a whole variety of different ways you know

1:02:22

you continue to hear good stuff about Quentin

1:02:24

Ives who still hasn't seen the field in

1:02:26

an actual game but coaches are really

1:02:29

high on Dante Dowdell was the

1:02:31

addition who you know is kind of

1:02:33

regarded as still a pretty young player

1:02:36

in that room but it certainly has the pedigree

1:02:38

so I think there are a lot of possibilities

1:02:41

in that group not a ton of

1:02:43

you know proven talent I mean as

1:02:45

good as Gabe Urban is it's he's

1:02:47

coming off his second major leg injury

1:02:49

as a college player. Ramir Johnson we've

1:02:51

seen it in flashes but whether

1:02:54

through injury or usage he just he hasn't been

1:02:56

a consistent force as well so

1:02:58

I think there are some nice players there

1:03:01

but you know I don't think anyone would

1:03:03

blame Nebraska for wanting to go out and

1:03:05

add a playmaker at the caliber of Dylan

1:03:07

Edwards either. Evan Bland with us

1:03:09

here Hale varsity radio Evan with the Omaha

1:03:11

World Herald I have your Oscar

1:03:14

football and baseball coverage this

1:03:16

weekend. Evan how does Michael

1:03:18

Terry grab you one of

1:03:20

many prospects that'll be

1:03:22

on campus Saturday and this

1:03:25

is another five-star Nebraska fans that they can

1:03:27

kind of get used to this five-star visit

1:03:30

thing. Yeah

1:03:32

five-star kid from San Antonio I believe

1:03:34

Sam had a good piece on him

1:03:36

on our site I think that's up

1:03:38

now about just you know

1:03:40

Terry's one of those guys who can kind

1:03:42

of frustrate coaches in the best ways like

1:03:45

hey is he a receiver is he a

1:03:47

running back he could be an elite safety

1:03:51

maybe at the next level so like there are a lot

1:03:53

of places where he could fit in I know Nebraska is

1:03:55

recruiting him as a receiver so we'll

1:03:57

see how that goes but absolutely And

1:04:00

anytime you can headline your spring

1:04:02

game with a five star kid in Nebraska,

1:04:04

the number of other highly sought

1:04:06

after recruits that are going to be on campus

1:04:08

as both officials and unofficials, um,

1:04:10

it's, it's a big deal. So it's,

1:04:13

we've heard many times how many times over the years,

1:04:16

um, getting a kid to campus is a

1:04:18

huge deal for Nebraska just because, uh, oftentimes

1:04:21

it does break some stereotypes about stadiums

1:04:23

surrounded by corn. And you get to

1:04:25

see the fan experience. You get to

1:04:28

see the facilities meet with the academic

1:04:30

folks and let those people have their moment

1:04:33

with the parents and the family. So yeah,

1:04:35

it's a cool thing to get them here. Um, it

1:04:38

doesn't happen very often, right? I mean, you think

1:04:40

Dylan Riola of course, in the last cycle, uh,

1:04:42

Micah Parsons back in the day when he was wowing

1:04:45

the crowds at the Friday

1:04:47

night lights event, uh, you know, a handful

1:04:49

of summers ago. So when it does happen,

1:04:51

it's a pretty cool deal, kind of a

1:04:53

special situation. And we'll see what kind of

1:04:56

impression Nebraska is able to make. Do you

1:04:58

put Terry in the same echelon of, of

1:05:00

Micah Parsons and Dylan Riola? That's a, that's

1:05:02

a lofty comparison. Well,

1:05:04

they're, they're five stars and there just aren't a

1:05:06

lot of those guys. So will

1:05:08

his career turn out to be what Micah Parsons

1:05:10

has? I don't know. Maybe. Um,

1:05:13

you know, I think about Parsons when he was at that

1:05:15

FNL event, I mean, he was a defender

1:05:18

who just on a whim decided to

1:05:20

catch some passes and was smoking four

1:05:22

star cornerbacks at Memorial stadium. Like that

1:05:24

was a special brand of athlete. I

1:05:26

think, Terry maybe

1:05:28

is sort of entering that conversation a

1:05:30

little bit. We'll see how things

1:05:33

go, but you know, it just, it does turn

1:05:35

your head a little bit ranking. People can kind of

1:05:37

poo poo rankings and I get it. Um,

1:05:39

but there's just a handful of

1:05:41

those guys that can be special

1:05:44

difference makers at a lot of different spots. And

1:05:46

Terry, uh, is one of those guys.

1:05:48

And, uh, you know, again, even if

1:05:50

Nebraska doesn't get him, just getting him to campus

1:05:52

when there's a finite amount of visits and, and

1:05:55

schools that he can really focus on is a

1:05:57

big deal. I've been blamed with this year

1:05:59

from the Omaha world. Harold Hale, Varsity Radio.

1:06:01

So Michael Terry is a guy

1:06:03

considering Nebraska. A guy that's decided

1:06:05

on Nebraska. Evan is Vince Genetone

1:06:07

from North Platte, spent two

1:06:09

seasons at Montana, one of those a redshirt

1:06:11

season. A guy with a

1:06:13

world of athleticism needs to

1:06:15

develop as a football player. What's your take on

1:06:18

how he fits into the Husker football program? Yeah,

1:06:21

I mean, I think he fits the mold of

1:06:25

what we've seen a lot of takes be from Nebraska

1:06:27

under Matt Ruhl. I mean, all the physical

1:06:29

measurables are there. When you look at his

1:06:32

frame, when you look at his speed, his

1:06:34

strength, you know, all that stuff stands

1:06:36

out. That's the kind of those are the traits

1:06:39

that Matt Ruhl has targeted, whether

1:06:41

that's from highly touted recruits or more

1:06:43

under the radar guys. And I think

1:06:46

you kind of credit Matt Ruhl and

1:06:48

Nebraska for acting pretty quickly. I mean,

1:06:50

Vince Genetone comes to practice

1:06:53

for a visit on Tuesday morning.

1:06:55

And by that night, he's committed

1:06:58

to the program. So talk about

1:07:00

a reversing course from Genetone's

1:07:03

experience with Nebraska a couple of years ago

1:07:05

when he was kind of slow played by

1:07:07

the previous staff. And they wanted him to

1:07:09

walk on and he ended up taking a

1:07:11

scholarship at Montana. So cool chance

1:07:13

for him. It's sort of

1:07:15

on the way back around. And, you

1:07:18

know, we spoke with him the other night

1:07:20

and he said development is his thing. And

1:07:22

you can understand why again with the physical

1:07:25

ability that he has to

1:07:28

come to a place and a

1:07:30

coaching staff that's building a reputation

1:07:32

as one that makes

1:07:34

guys better and advances careers. Like you

1:07:36

can see why that would be attractive

1:07:38

for him, of course, also

1:07:40

in his home state. So cool deal

1:07:42

that came together quickly and just another example that

1:07:45

it's so hard to talk about potential

1:07:48

transfers every year because you just don't know

1:07:50

who's going in. I don't know that people

1:07:52

expected him to be in the portal, but

1:07:54

when he was, Nebraska acted quickly and they

1:07:56

feel like they're out of the playmakers. Evan,

1:07:59

are you... you gonna walk away

1:08:01

Saturday with optimism for Nebraska football?

1:08:06

I mean I guess we'll see how it goes. I think

1:08:09

so. You know I think I

1:08:11

don't know how much the defense can

1:08:13

do one way or the other that

1:08:15

would you know change kind of my

1:08:17

opinion on them as a veteran you

1:08:19

know really talented group especially up front.

1:08:21

I guess to me you know and

1:08:23

just like everybody else I'll be I'm

1:08:25

gonna be watching the quarterbacks but

1:08:28

I think it's just the consistency of it like

1:08:30

how many times in the last handful

1:08:32

of seasons have we seen opposing defenses stack

1:08:34

the box and just dare Nebraska to beat

1:08:37

them over the top or to make a

1:08:39

throw or to hit a screen pass or

1:08:42

or a swing pass and Nebraska you know

1:08:44

oftentimes hadn't been able to do it. It's

1:08:46

like that's the kind of thing I'll be

1:08:48

looking for on Saturday is how about just

1:08:51

their little routine pass plays can how

1:08:53

do Riola and Kalin and Harvard look

1:08:55

in those situations are they making

1:08:58

the right read is there a diversity to

1:09:00

the offense that opens up because those guys

1:09:03

can be more reliable passers maybe

1:09:05

than what Nebraska has had in the past so

1:09:08

I you know I think the explosive plays will

1:09:10

be fun I'm looking forward to seeing a lot

1:09:12

of the younger skill players especially a receiver and

1:09:14

how that plays out but I do think just

1:09:17

when you talk about Nebraska taking that next step in

1:09:19

the fall it's got to start with the

1:09:21

trigger man and can that guy be reliable

1:09:24

consistent and diversify Nebraska's offense

1:09:26

I think maybe we'll get a little

1:09:29

bit of a sense of that on Saturday. We've got

1:09:31

about two minutes here we're gonna need to get to

1:09:33

baseball but quickly just to name real quick what

1:09:36

guy not named Dylan Riola what will be talking

1:09:38

about come next week on this program? I'm

1:09:42

gonna go Bly Hill I think his

1:09:44

his ascension from FCS transfer to potential

1:09:47

starting corner we'll see what he can

1:09:49

do. Evan last

1:09:51

night no good for Nebraska struggled

1:09:53

didn't take advantage of nine walks

1:09:56

will afterwards said you can't get

1:09:58

emotional but to react action and

1:10:00

look ahead this weekend real quick. Yeah,

1:10:04

just kind of a confounding thing for Nebraska

1:10:06

baseball right now, when you win eight to

1:10:08

10 weekends to this point, but now you've

1:10:10

lost four straight mid weeks, including

1:10:12

to a Kansas team. That's okay. It's an okay

1:10:14

team, but that's a team in Lincoln with

1:10:17

what Nebraska has on the line that you would

1:10:19

expect to beat. And it didn't happen. Um, you

1:10:21

know, I think the pitching sort of is what

1:10:24

it is at this point. I think you

1:10:26

can kind of tell there are three starters that

1:10:28

you feel good about. And after that, you

1:10:30

just don't know what you're going to get. I

1:10:32

think maybe the more frustrating part for Nebraska has

1:10:34

been the offense and just when

1:10:37

you look at the scoreboard at the end and say, you

1:10:39

know, you put four runs against kind

1:10:41

of the middle part of Kansas staff like that probably

1:10:43

just not going to get it done. So I think

1:10:45

that's probably the most disappointing part

1:10:47

there. Um, and now they pivot to Iowa this

1:10:50

weekend, which was the preseason Big

1:10:52

10 favorite. Uh, they're they're

1:10:54

starting pitching is really volatile. They're going to strike out

1:10:56

a ton, but they're probably gonna walk a bunch to

1:10:59

look how selective can Nebraska be with the

1:11:01

pitching? And then Iowa maybe hasn't been known for

1:11:03

its lineup, but it's one of the best scoring

1:11:05

lineups in the Big 10 to so I would

1:11:09

expect some higher scoring games if Mother

1:11:11

Nature cooperates this weekend and Iowa

1:11:14

under Rick Heller has tended to have Nebraska's number

1:11:16

through the year. So it's a big weekend for

1:11:18

Nebraska as it tries to stay on pace in

1:11:20

the Big 10 and then in the at large

1:11:22

conversation. Evan Bland with the

1:11:24

Omaha World Herald at Evan Bland. O.

1:11:26

W. H. Evan will check

1:11:28

in with you Saturday. See in the press box.

1:11:30

Appreciate you. Give it us a few minutes today, man.

1:11:33

So two guys. Thanks. See you. That is good stuff.

1:11:36

Folks chiming in in the stream. Dylan

1:11:38

Edwards weighs 170 pounds. Ross is concerned about

1:11:42

that. That's all good. He's not wrong

1:11:45

to 100. He asked the question to

1:11:48

170 pound running backs last long in the Big 10. Chew

1:11:50

on that. And

1:11:54

now and now back

1:11:56

to Hale varsity radio time

1:11:59

for a jock. Doc Wednesday, Nebraska Orthopedic Center.

1:12:01

Dr. Brandon Seifert with us and

1:12:03

Dr. Brandon, let's talk a little

1:12:06

baseball. How are we doing? Hey,

1:12:08

I'm doing great, fellas. Absolutely, let's talk

1:12:10

some baseball. I can't believe it's upon

1:12:12

us already. It is. And

1:12:15

how many baseball

1:12:17

fractured rib injuries

1:12:19

have you heard or seen in your

1:12:21

time? You know,

1:12:23

fortunately, pretty rare having the fractures, but obviously

1:12:25

you think about all the stuff they do.

1:12:28

It's pretty easy to have collisions on the

1:12:30

field and you run it into another player.

1:12:32

Pretty easy to have a collision with the

1:12:34

catcher. Obviously, the big thing you

1:12:36

think about, you know, taking a baseball shot to

1:12:39

the ribs, whether you're a hitter or out in

1:12:41

the field. So it's surprising it doesn't happen more

1:12:43

often than it does. I was going

1:12:45

to say the same thing, Dr. Brandon, because I

1:12:47

know pitchers will say they don't target hitters, but

1:12:49

whenever they do, where they typically aim,

1:12:52

right between the numbers where you turn the back and

1:12:54

get them in the ribs, you would think it'd be

1:12:56

an injury you see more in baseball. But we

1:12:58

got Cody Bellinger on the injured list

1:13:00

with fractured ribs, and it wasn't from that at all. It

1:13:02

was from crashing into a wall. Yeah,

1:13:05

absolutely. And, you know, again, kind of that

1:13:07

concept there is, you know, either a, that

1:13:10

direct impact into something, you know, it's just

1:13:12

an object to wall, the other player is

1:13:14

part of it. The other thing, too, is

1:13:16

you think about just kind of in general

1:13:18

the ribs and kind of the shape

1:13:21

and the anatomy of those, it's kind of like

1:13:23

an accordion. So, of course, your ribs, your chest,

1:13:25

what's it to protect your internal organs. But that

1:13:27

also does kind of function in the way kind

1:13:29

of like an accordion kind of allow you to

1:13:31

kind of flex one way or the other with

1:13:33

the rotation piece, the flexion bending piece. And

1:13:35

as you do that, you know, there's this kind

1:13:37

of soft structure that's in between those ribs, you

1:13:39

know, called cartilage. And so pretty easy as you

1:13:42

kind of flex one way to stretch down one

1:13:44

side, if you kind of rotate, you

1:13:46

know, vigorously, obviously, you can stretch it that direction,

1:13:48

or ultimately get to that kind of next level

1:13:50

where if you get such a high impact that

1:13:52

you have a fracture of the ribs. We

1:13:56

have a fracture we're talking about with

1:13:58

Bellinger. Tell

1:14:00

me about the healing process with it, how

1:14:03

you get healed. I know rest and don't

1:14:06

touch. I get all that, but as

1:14:08

we talk a little bit here, timeline

1:14:11

on return to play and then just

1:14:14

can you tweak this thing as well? I mean,

1:14:16

I just think Bellinger was on an eight game

1:14:18

hitting streak, had five home runs

1:14:21

this time of year, and I know

1:14:23

how good he is with the

1:14:25

bat. And just when you're swinging

1:14:27

a bat, your ribs

1:14:29

are involved just on that follow through.

1:14:33

Yeah, absolutely, Chris. So from all

1:14:35

that perspective, first we kind of

1:14:37

talked about just the diagnosis itself.

1:14:40

Originally had some x-rays taken that were

1:14:42

normal, and that's pretty common. It's hard

1:14:45

to see the rib fractures, especially ones that are

1:14:47

not displaced on x-rays. And so sometimes they'll go

1:14:49

to that next level if you're having that much

1:14:52

pain. Obviously, at the professional level, they order

1:14:54

way too many imaging scans, but he gets a

1:14:56

CT scan. It's likely what they saw. And on

1:14:58

the CT, they actually saw rib fractures. I'm guessing

1:15:00

it was a CT. That would usually be the

1:15:02

next step. Being that it's major leagues,

1:15:04

they may have MRI'd him as well. But

1:15:07

at any rate, they found the fracture. And

1:15:09

so from a pain perspective, yes, these are

1:15:11

quite painful. And really the

1:15:14

big thing is you think about the function

1:15:16

of these. So it's hard to get comfortable

1:15:18

when you have one of these in terms

1:15:20

of sleeping, sitting, all positions tend to irritate

1:15:23

that area. And the biggest thing to think

1:15:25

about is your ribs are involved when you

1:15:27

expand your chest and you breathe. So

1:15:30

every time you breathe, you're going to have issues there. If

1:15:32

you cough your sneeze, it's pretty miserable, especially early

1:15:34

on. Other

1:15:36

muscular structures attached to that. So you can

1:15:38

think about kind of the front side of

1:15:40

your abdomen, some of those abdominal muscles can

1:15:42

attach onto the chest wall. And

1:15:44

obviously as you're rotating at the waist or

1:15:46

flexing or moving to the side, you're going

1:15:49

to irritate that. And then the same thing

1:15:51

goes like what we talked about, like oblique

1:15:53

strains, those big oblique muscles attached onto the

1:15:55

outside. So as a throwing athlete, you're going

1:15:57

to feel that even as you're swinging the

1:16:00

David all that humans feel that you

1:16:02

swing to stress that whole area. so

1:16:04

pretty easy with everything you're doing athletically

1:16:06

especially baseball it either they can the

1:16:09

rear seats he talked about me to

1:16:11

do an area absolutely so of your

1:16:13

time to amaze is pretty variable real

1:16:15

he could get back as soon as

1:16:18

she maybe two or three weeks maybe

1:16:20

cigarettes role was to pushes but typically

1:16:22

would be the might be more like

1:16:24

six weeks for answers to syllogism back

1:16:27

in stride that honestly this probably gonna

1:16:29

run for. Your three six months or

1:16:31

maybe just a that he doable but it

1:16:33

will be there. You'll notice it until it's

1:16:35

finally see. Also. Doctor

1:16:37

Brennan This is one of

1:16:40

those injuries to you really

1:16:42

can accelerate current them you

1:16:44

can accelerate through. There's really

1:16:46

not a rehab process is.

1:16:49

Now. It's really more time it

1:16:51

as you to do some local anti

1:16:53

inflammatory for additional to sound from them

1:16:55

a gentleman soft tissue mobilizations still most

1:16:58

kind of things you could try some

1:17:00

of the more experimental things in areas

1:17:02

such as like pure of he talked

1:17:04

about that before to your piece themselves

1:17:06

and fifty can't maybe speed up feeling

1:17:09

sentence to the area you did have

1:17:11

some good good stream portion of doing

1:17:13

basically local anesthetic to the area like

1:17:15

some light again and numbing shops and

1:17:17

four games you get a workout. And

1:17:20

ten out at least for a short amount of

1:17:22

time. And obviously that comes from roaring back. When

1:17:24

the number stuff wears off, what's in the snow

1:17:26

is not a great synergy. Utilize that so early.

1:17:29

In the season that be more. Something

1:17:31

you do but do and it's it's world's

1:17:33

here. Timer of the playoff series is early.

1:17:35

Thing protective was that Cody can wear whatever

1:17:37

he steps in the box. Think about the

1:17:39

quarterbacks that where the flak jackets and football.

1:17:41

the kind of person that lower rib cage

1:17:43

certain like that that Cody Bellinger can were

1:17:46

in order to protect himself. Whatever he does

1:17:48

get back on the field. Yeah

1:17:51

you know I think that's a reasonable

1:17:53

option have those are together. Do have

1:17:55

some some lower profile ones that are

1:17:57

out there that could utilize with baseball.

1:18:00

The reason he might consider doing that initially

1:18:02

with heading to see doesn't take a ball

1:18:04

off at area but they do restrict some

1:18:06

of that basically gonna sit rotation waste rotation

1:18:08

portion of it can be somewhat restrict the

1:18:11

for that so that will be kind of

1:18:13

the balance for hims trying to figure out

1:18:15

and I were some type of protection but

1:18:17

still no regenerates velocity and my rotation any

1:18:19

job swings it on the disappearing. Sort.

1:18:22

Of regiments little bit Early respects me get some

1:18:24

more news from because you're in the coming days.

1:18:26

He said that based on the fact that the

1:18:28

and Dislikes raid didn't so broken ribs you didn't

1:18:30

think it was displaced. Tell me

1:18:33

with this fracture, what is the difference in

1:18:35

the recovery process at it's Displaced Persons as

1:18:37

it isn't displaced? How. Big. Of

1:18:39

a difference is that for for ballenger here. Yeah

1:18:42

and so she'll throw some my

1:18:44

perspective. as that display set piece

1:18:46

changes. So the think about the further

1:18:48

a fresh ago some just sitting in

1:18:50

the spot we're supposed to be to

1:18:52

being kind of way out of alignment

1:18:54

if you will. Typically it's gonna take

1:18:56

a higher level for say a higher

1:18:58

level trauma to did that to a

1:19:01

point where it displaces more. That's typically

1:19:03

how that works law newton's physics, they're

1:19:05

mostly time and so's you think about

1:19:07

that further displaced that is the more

1:19:09

and kind of stretches the more those

1:19:11

other surrounding tissues are traumatised by that

1:19:13

and that just in a cage can

1:19:15

have a longer recovery course. Again

1:19:17

it's more com indicating the trauma of

1:19:19

obviously if he did it just right

1:19:21

between and to be isolated injury their

1:19:23

the more non that guess now misplaces

1:19:25

less display said it is usually will

1:19:28

do less the source the less the

1:19:30

surrounding tissue tama damage mean is less

1:19:32

criminal damage and they can recover faster

1:19:34

army the know again in Egypt for

1:19:36

ten or reduce even if it's a

1:19:38

single color with pressure these just are

1:19:40

painful and annoying. For a while she's

1:19:42

had one well would just wants in

1:19:44

the video Doctor Brennan center was as

1:19:46

John.wednesday. tornado and your was drifting

1:19:48

dot drifting the tone of fumbled

1:19:51

the ball and and just as

1:19:53

a short distance crashed into the

1:19:55

bricks with in the i the

1:19:58

the unfriendly gone signs and And

1:20:00

it must have just been that perfect

1:20:02

or imperfect hit that did him in.

1:20:05

Time for padding and Wrigley, yes or no?

1:20:08

That's right. I already take

1:20:11

away those old traditions. Dr.

1:20:13

Brandon, I say just expand the warning track a

1:20:15

little bit. Give them a little more

1:20:17

time. Like the brick's right there. This

1:20:20

is all I can do. So smashed like

1:20:22

we are at the Dodger Stadium. No kidding.

1:20:24

Dr. Brandon, we'll check in again soon. Thanks

1:20:26

for the time today. All

1:20:29

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