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Chris Schmidt, Elijah Herbal Got

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a great story to tell about a

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wonderful listener And his

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conversion Conversion to

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Cornhead We'll take your phone calls

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8 9 12 40 or 800 8 2 5 5 8 6 What

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were you gritting that? Nothing

1:52

it's just Whenever I heard

1:54

conversion I kind of thought Going

1:56

from one fan base to another Nothing more

1:59

like Paul

2:02

to Damascus type deal. It's

2:04

the best way to use it. Transition?

2:08

Oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

2:11

No, I wasn't going from

2:15

Kardashian to...

2:18

Sounds to say

2:20

more power to him, her, but... No. Good

2:23

for you. Yeah. But I'm

2:25

talking about the beer transition.

2:27

The beer transition. You

2:30

know, I guess I'm just getting too old. When

2:33

I throw out a word and it

2:36

enters the ear of a 25 year old, yeah. So

2:40

beer conversion is what we're

2:43

talking. We'll get to that

2:45

story. Thoughts on the

2:47

recruiting philosophy. What is going to work

2:49

in 2024? Nebraska

2:52

baseball, a absolute... What's

2:57

the word? Guts punch?

2:59

It was worse than gut punch last night

3:01

if you're a Nebraska baseball fan at Haymarket,

3:03

not just because of how it went down,

3:05

because of who did it to you. And

3:09

we'll also spend some time on

3:12

the topic of field storming there

3:14

because of an out clip

3:18

from Busan and Will Compton's

3:20

sit down. The Busan

3:22

experience, of course, at Nebraska. Will

3:25

Compton fans, he was gracious enough to come

3:27

on a lot of years with

3:29

us. And he's doing just great

3:31

things with Busan. So we'll get

3:33

all that handled. Mike Babcock with us in

3:36

15 minutes from Hale Varsity and her dad's

3:38

sports. In our two, Jabba

3:40

Chamberlain, we'll get the Huskers standout and

3:42

World Series champs take on big

3:45

red baseball where things are at as they head

3:47

into Maryland. And some Nebraska

3:49

football thoughts and baseball takes from

3:51

Evan Bland of the Omaha World

3:53

Herald, a jock-dock on all those

3:56

pitching injuries that are very real

3:58

with Dr. Brandon Seifer. with

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for me. And let's

4:28

get the starting five shout outs

4:30

going. We always say what's up

4:33

to our five plus in

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the stream watching on the Hail

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Varsity YouTube channel. Justin is in

4:40

first. Good work. Justin

4:42

Roger in second.

4:45

Andrew is in. Jeff

4:47

Knitley from the Boulder Peace Treaty. In

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at four. Brennan from

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the Black Hills says Howdy Howdy.

4:54

Patrick is present and

4:56

is concerned about N.U. Grandpa. Dion

4:58

is here. Dion what's up. Jeff

5:00

checks in. Brian says hello.

5:03

He is in. And

5:06

also Mark says yo.

5:08

And Anthony Sargent says

5:11

what's up. Husker baseball.

5:13

Elijah this a nod to you

5:15

is burning the candle at both ends.

5:17

Ah I see what you did there.

5:20

Well played good sir. So that's

5:23

that's very fair. Six to

5:25

four the salami was

5:29

the story by

5:31

Dieter. Bomb shot

5:34

to center. Nebraska

5:36

just missed a tying

5:38

two run shot in the

5:40

ninth. A little bit too much of a line drive.

5:42

Not enough umph and loft. And they raised the fences

5:45

a couple years ago. Whenever they did that things out

5:47

if they don't raise the fences to you. Right. You

5:49

know but Nebraska let's

5:52

just be honest and this may be

5:54

over reaction but you

5:56

really need to turn and against

6:00

Maryland, obvious yes, and I'm not saying

6:02

sweep, but you got to get back

6:05

to your winning ways and shake it

6:07

off and then with Kansas looming as well,

6:09

you can't go a cumulative

6:11

month of losing your mid-weeks

6:14

and right now you're 0-3 in

6:17

your last Tuesdays. Okay, two

6:19

against Creighton, one against Kansas. What

6:21

do we think about this baseball team? We

6:24

think we know that with

6:26

Sears and McAdahay, your 1-2 is

6:28

nice. What we

6:31

don't know is the consistency portion, we'll talk

6:33

more with Jabba Chamberlain about that at 5

6:35

out of the bullpen because you've had good

6:37

moments by the kids that come out of

6:39

the pen. They've been dominant at times. You've

6:41

had good hitting. Will Bolt's not wrong last

6:44

night when he says you need more than

6:46

three runs and

6:48

if you're up by more than the

6:53

one run, Creighton's just been deadly.

6:57

They've been great in one-run games. Creighton's

6:59

been really good when leading

7:01

late. They

7:03

don't lose. One loss in the last

7:05

40 games. I'm probably blowing that up but

7:07

I saw the stat on NET last night

7:10

and you just got to kind of shake

7:13

yourself bullpen wise and you've got some guys

7:15

struggling. What you hope it doesn't turn into

7:18

is really waning confidence.

7:20

You hope it is, all right,

7:22

had a bad finish Friday at

7:25

Rutgers, had a bad finish Sunday

7:27

against Rutgers. You hope it doesn't

7:31

snowball and that snowball's not the

7:33

size of that bowling ball that

7:35

was chasing Indiana Jones. Right?

7:38

It can't go there mentally for

7:40

this baseball team in the bullpen. It's a

7:42

team effort. There's some situations

7:45

where Nebraska needed

7:47

to be better at the plate. There's

7:49

also instances too where, I mean it

7:51

looked like Nebraska was actually absolutely playing

7:53

with fire and they got out of

7:55

a bases loaded no-out jam in that

7:58

game. One. One.

8:01

One. That's not twice.

8:04

Not twice. And we'll

8:06

see where Coach Bolton and company go

8:08

Friday. But it's going to be a good crowd. I don't know.

8:11

The weather's going to be the best. But

8:13

hey, lock in on Maryland and see if

8:15

you can start a win streak. You're now

8:17

three and six since your 10

8:19

game win streak. And you

8:21

circled this question mark, Elijah, early

8:24

with this baseball team. Are

8:26

they beating teams they're supposed to beat? How good

8:28

is this team? That's a question you've asked out

8:30

loud, not to criticize, but in fairness.

8:33

You like the effort against an Oklahoma. You

8:35

like the effort against the Tech. You

8:38

like what happened against College of

8:40

Charleston. Great. But

8:42

now, against some better teams,

8:46

it's not going your way. And

8:49

I don't think from a talent-wise standpoint,

8:51

Nebraska's deficit of talent,

8:53

they're not. They just got to be better. They

8:56

just got to be better. They got to make better pitches. They

8:59

got to be better with the strike zone. And they

9:01

got to be better in some

9:04

situational at bats to

9:07

tack on. It's being better.

9:09

To me, the word I use is they need

9:11

to be more complete. Like

9:13

last night, great word.

9:15

I'd say eight innings of that

9:17

game, you're the better baseball team. You didn't finish

9:19

out to nine. So many

9:21

times this year, the hitting's been great. The

9:24

pitching really made you scared. I mean, look at

9:26

last Friday night against Rutgers. The hitting's great. The

9:28

pitching that lets you down late and you lose

9:30

that baseball game. Like, it's

9:33

just this team. Well, it's Kansas,

9:35

too. This team has talent. I

9:37

would probably call them the most talented team in the

9:39

Big 10 right now. But

9:41

if you don't play complete baseball games, you

9:43

don't play completely together as a squad, you're

9:46

not going to have the best record in the Big 10 when it's all

9:48

said and done. And I still think this team can have the best record

9:50

in the Big 10. They should have the best record in the Big 10.

9:53

When are they going to flip

9:56

that switch and start playing like a

9:58

complete baseball team? Because I think they're pretty dang. close to

10:00

be to complete baseball team. They have the arms out of the

10:02

pin. They don't have consistency out of the

10:04

pin. That's part of that complete... And that's a

10:06

lot of teams in college baseball, but it's really

10:08

bitten Nebraska recently. I mean, I think they have

10:11

three arms on the weekend that you

10:13

can ride behind and get wins behind. Can

10:15

you have a complete performance? Like, I'm not

10:18

piling on Drew Christo, but you're going to need some

10:20

offense with Drew Christo and how he's playing this season.

10:22

That's not to disparage your own. Or he turns the

10:24

corner and fixes it. Yeah, it's just reality at this

10:26

point in time that if you want to go win

10:29

on Sundays when Christo's on the mound, you're going to

10:31

need some run support for him. If Christo's pitching with

10:33

the lead, it's different than Christo pitching from behind. Like,

10:35

this is what I'm saying. Like, it doesn't all fall

10:37

on one group of guys on the team. It's not

10:40

just the bullpen. It's not just the starters. Like, this

10:42

team as a whole needs to be more complete.

10:44

They're close. I think they're a damn good baseball

10:46

team. I think they're close to being, comparatively,

10:50

to the Big Ten a great baseball team. It's

10:52

just about flipping that switch. Let's

10:55

talk recruiting for a minute. Babbers in 10

10:57

minutes. So you

10:59

have Brent Shortenbore from

11:02

USA Today. And you've got

11:05

all these high profile recruits with

11:08

Coach Prime in Colorado. They

11:11

have jumped into the portal. That is

11:13

what Boulder is majoring in, again, is

11:15

portal acquisition.

11:17

Is each year going

11:20

to be the

11:22

deck of cards just being thrown on the

11:24

table where it's just scattered? Is it

11:27

going to be one year

11:30

deals for roster for Colorado?

11:33

Eventually, you're going

11:36

to live and die by the old Mel Tucker. One

11:39

year's awesome. Next year's terrible. And

11:41

you want consistency. And while they

11:43

got off to a hot start,

11:45

the lines of scrimmage were problematic

11:47

for Colorado last year, despite some

11:50

incredible skill talent. And you have

11:52

a story here. It's looking at

11:54

Deon and looking at Coach Rule.

11:56

And unlike Deon Sanders,

11:58

this is the headline. Coach

12:00

Matt Ruel has been prolific in

12:02

off-campus recruiting. What's the quote

12:05

tweet here by our friend

12:07

Tim Bergeis from Rivals? Earlier

12:11

today he's got a

12:13

he's asking the question is this

12:15

real because you've got some buff

12:17

players should do

12:19

or one of them saying hey so-and-so

12:22

DM me and

12:24

the old line is I ain't

12:26

hard to find right? It's offensive

12:28

transfers DM me defensive transfers DM

12:30

Shiloh Sanders and then

12:32

in parentheses he puts this is

12:34

not last chance you. So

12:39

that's how Colorado is approaching their portal

12:41

acquisitions this off season and Tim essentially

12:43

said Tim's a guy that's been around

12:45

recruiting a long time dating

12:48

back to like essentially his freshman year

12:50

of college he's covered Michigan he's covered

12:52

Texas A&M covering Nebraska now in his

12:54

second stint covering Nebraska like he

12:57

understands how top programs and top recruiters

12:59

operate and I'll just read the

13:01

the tweet for you word for word I

13:03

can't believe this is real from the top

13:05

down Dion and his staff have been ridiculously

13:08

lazy when it comes to recruiting recruiting staffers

13:10

asking guys to drop film in their replies

13:12

on Twitter head coaches kids telling portal guys

13:14

to the end them trust me this isn't

13:16

how a serious program operates. There's

13:21

a nuance to the wow factor

13:23

of Coach Prime I think

13:26

you and I both agree that the Coach Prime

13:28

like is kind of an old-school good football coach

13:30

I think he knows football and

13:33

he's realistic about the bag he talks

13:35

about right kids get kids need to

13:37

get paid Roger checks

13:39

in on the stream and

13:41

this is Roger's theory here C use

13:43

just a ride for Dion's

13:46

next stop passively

13:48

we'll see. Well but

13:50

the question for any next stop for Dion.

13:53

The question is sustainability. Yeah like like what

13:55

are you going to do as a head

13:57

coach whenever you don't have your very talented.

14:00

wanted son at quarterback and your sons

14:02

out there recruiting people and that kind

14:04

of name appeal that comes

14:06

with Colorado right now that they respect

14:08

his game. Yeah, good quarterback like what

14:10

happens after that like your prized

14:12

recruit that you flipped essentially from Miami. And

14:16

signing day last year quarterback already

14:18

in the portal like like there's

14:20

just that question of as

14:23

you said sustainability what is the sustainability of

14:25

coach Reiman how does he go on to

14:27

another job and say this

14:29

blueprint that I had at Colorado will work

14:31

here whenever. Oh, your sons are out of

14:34

college eligibility, you no longer have a 5

14:36

star in Travis Hunter like what is your

14:38

game plan. That's

14:40

why I think and you're going to have to ask

14:42

or got to answer at his next stop. He's going

14:44

to answer on the field for

14:47

more than just one season. You

14:49

can get lightning in a bottle that can use to

14:51

state it and listen. The

14:54

problem with Colorado is you got to get

14:56

people care in Boulder and

14:59

you're going to go higher a guy like prime

15:01

for the wow factor you are

15:03

the darling of college football to a guy

15:05

really hard and now

15:08

what are you still going to have

15:10

that cash a and quite frankly

15:12

some of the the personalities

15:14

he's going after along

15:16

with the stars don't want

15:18

to be told what they're told

15:21

conversely you look at Nebraska's plan

15:23

of action. You got

15:25

rule. And Nebraska

15:28

in late November of 2022

15:30

rule has checked out

15:33

and checked in on a 108

15:35

high schools in several states. He's

15:39

been all over Nebraska coach Foley

15:41

has been all over Nebraska. They've

15:44

made 400 again, this is

15:46

the USA today article 486 off-campus contacts with

15:51

potential recruits that's a 123 in December in

15:53

January. That

15:57

according to the records obtained by USA

15:59

today. That's how

16:01

he's building the program. He hits the road,

16:03

he barnstorms, he sets up

16:06

recruiting visits, he touches

16:08

base with recruiting prospects, every

16:11

December and January. The

16:13

thing that is going to differentiate Nebraska

16:16

and football programs moving

16:18

forward is not only

16:20

beating the streets, getting on

16:23

the airplane, getting into the pickup. It's

16:27

going to be looking somebody

16:29

in the eye and shaking

16:31

hands and connecting

16:34

with someone from a personality standpoint

16:37

and being honest and then showing a kid here's

16:39

how it's going to be, here's how the practice

16:41

is going to be, this is how hard it's

16:43

going to be, this is the

16:45

expectation and if it ain't

16:47

for you, all good but we think you're a

16:49

pretty good player. At some point today we

16:51

got to go pull this. As

16:53

part of the Bus with the Boys visit to Lincoln, we've

16:56

been credit them plenty. It's a great inside

16:58

look. I think Matt Rule and the football program

17:01

understand what type of platform that gives them but

17:03

Matt Rule gives Will

17:05

a closing recruiting pitch.

17:08

Kind of focuses on that. It's

17:10

deeper than just the football, the football take care

17:13

of itself. I'm here because I care about you

17:15

and who you are and your family and we'll

17:17

hopefully get that later in the show. It's really

17:19

interesting, really insightful. We'll have a couple of bussing

17:21

clips but there's different styles

17:23

in recruiting but what's going to win long term?

17:28

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dot com. Babbers a lot

17:55

to write about as you took

17:57

in last night. Great

17:59

baseball. game Nebraska

18:02

fans right now reeling,

18:04

wringing their hands because

18:07

of who beat Nebraska in dramatic

18:09

fashion last night. The Grand

18:12

Salami, Mike, put Creighton

18:15

in the lead for good, ninth

18:17

inning heroics. Yeah,

18:20

yeah, boy, Nebraska's bullpen

18:23

is just having

18:25

issues. I really thought Nebraska

18:27

had that game under

18:30

control when it

18:32

jumped out with got the six runs.

18:34

But, man, you

18:36

got to give Creighton credit, a

18:39

great team you come through and

18:42

win a game in that situation. It's

18:44

just crushing for

18:46

Nebraska. And

18:48

now what that's five of the

18:50

last six Nebraska's lost. You

18:53

know, Nebraska, Mike, had

18:56

this disrespect kind

18:59

of aura about him. I'm not saying that's from Will

19:01

or the team or the players, but the fan base

19:03

was like, all right, what are they going to be

19:05

ranked? What are they going to be ranked? Well, you

19:07

get ranked, you win 10

19:09

in a row and suddenly it goes the other

19:12

way. And you're in a bad

19:14

stretch here midweek. Now, to

19:17

be fair, it's not your normal

19:19

directional school midweek, but your last

19:21

three Tuesday nights have

19:23

gone the wrong way. Creighton

19:27

is absolutely more

19:29

geared up for you. The first meeting

19:32

two weeks ago, you lose

19:34

in Lawrence last week. And

19:37

then here comes Creighton again,

19:40

that just kept at it. And is

19:43

this just a reality right

19:45

now with Nebraska's bullpen, or

19:48

do you think they can get better? What

19:50

can coach Childress and coach Bolt do between

19:52

now and Omaha

19:54

time here with Nebraska baseball? Well,

19:57

I don't know what you can do.

19:59

You just got to keep plugging along. I

20:03

mean, the

20:05

expectations really rose

20:08

when you win 10 games in a row. And

20:12

now it's just like, you know, what do

20:14

we do? Well, you got to stay the

20:16

course. You got

20:18

to rely on the guys that you thought

20:20

you could rely on and expect them to

20:22

step up. And you

20:25

still got plenty of time in conference

20:27

play. You

20:29

can turn things around, but it's

20:33

getting more and more difficult. Fortunately, you've

20:36

got a home series

20:39

against Maryland to kind

20:41

of try to regroup. You

20:45

got to get the job done against Maryland. That's

20:48

where you start. And you start with

20:50

a Friday night's game and

20:52

go from there one game at a time.

20:55

But you got to get things turned

20:57

around in the conference where you still

20:59

have an opportunity. Is

21:01

this physical or is it mental or

21:03

are we talking combo when it

21:06

comes to turning the arms out of the bullpen?

21:08

Do you think there's some doubt

21:10

that's crept in to

21:12

some of the pitchers that are asked

21:14

to come in? Because it

21:17

went sideways. We just go back to

21:19

Rutgers Friday night, right? You

21:21

go sideways after you

21:23

get incredible starting pitching. And

21:27

then Sunday, you don't

21:29

handle the deal. But Will's like,

21:31

all right, time to reset and

21:33

get going because he didn't play awful

21:35

baseball against Rutgers. Just didn't go

21:38

your way sometimes. But now

21:40

this is, well, it's

21:42

working on turning the corner from being a

21:44

trend. You

21:47

know, I think it's more mental than

21:49

physical. Although I

21:53

know that just looking at the numbers as

21:55

the relievers came in last night, there's

21:59

a concern about that. number of walks that

22:01

they're giving up and

22:03

keeping the ball around the plate which

22:05

has an effect on whether somebody hits

22:07

you or not if you're

22:09

walking too many people then it kind of gets in

22:11

your head and I think that's where the issue

22:14

is it's metal and

22:16

you got to get that squared away you

22:19

know you that and yeah you

22:21

had that winning streak it's

22:24

probably mental there you you you feel good

22:26

about where you are maybe is as

22:29

the winning streak gets along you sort of

22:31

slack off or something but

22:34

now you now you're in a situation

22:36

where you've got to turn it around

22:38

mentally I think is that is

22:40

the key to

22:43

success because Nebraska has the

22:45

talent to get the

22:47

job done but the bullpen just

22:49

hasn't hasn't done that Nebraska

22:52

was about three feet from extras

22:54

last night Mike in

22:56

the ninth the offense came back a couple

22:59

of big-time shots to the wall but

23:02

the the difference is is the ball

23:04

stayed in the park what what was

23:06

your reaction at Haymarket what

23:08

was the ooze and awws what was the

23:11

the juice like before it left

23:14

when when Dieter crushed that grandson that

23:16

kids hitting 500 with the bases loaded

23:19

you know I didn't go out so I don't know what what

23:22

the crowd what the crowd was was

23:24

like there you know the

23:27

the Huskers are have

23:30

made the fans I

23:32

think frustrated and sort

23:34

of hesitant to wonder what's going

23:36

to happen I really thought the

23:39

inning where Columbus made

23:42

that tremendous catch at first base I

23:44

thought that was the turning point and

23:46

the energy there I

23:49

thought would carry Nebraska through but

23:52

you know again it just didn't happen Mike

23:55

Babcock's with us from Hale Vars City

23:57

at MD Babs on Twitter well

23:59

Nebraska Nebraska will try and regroup

24:01

against Maryland weekend series against

24:04

the Terps at Haymarket, so

24:06

at least Nebraska's home for

24:09

an extended home stay to try

24:11

and get right. Spring

24:13

football yesterday, Mike, as you heard from

24:15

Coach Rule, you heard from Coach McGuire,

24:18

you heard from a handful of Whiteouts,

24:20

Lloyd, Nayer, and Bullock. With

24:23

National Rule, I want to spend a moment

24:25

here, Mike, and talk a little bit about

24:27

just some of your impressions

24:30

with Rule this spring, year

24:32

two, the positivity, but also

24:34

the reality from Rule, how

24:37

he goes about kind of toughening the

24:39

team up to practice style is

24:42

something he's focused in on, and it is

24:44

not for the weak-hearted. You

24:47

know, one of the things that he said that

24:49

I really appreciated, I think the players

24:52

appreciate, he said anyone

24:54

who plays for me plays for

24:57

life, meaning

24:59

that even guys that have transferred out,

25:02

he's kept in touch with their coaches,

25:04

with them. I really

25:07

think that he is a player's first type

25:09

of coach, and you know,

25:11

that's reinforced, I think every time we

25:14

have the opportunity to

25:16

have media availability with Coach Rule. When

25:19

talking about the transfer portal, he

25:22

said whatever issues there are, they

25:25

aren't on the players, they're

25:28

on, you know, coaches. He

25:31

takes, he's accountable to his

25:34

players. It's

25:36

a very player-oriented

25:39

approach, I guess, and

25:42

I'm being redundant here, but that's the

25:44

thing that always impresses me when we

25:46

listen to Rule. And

25:50

you know, that doesn't mean that he doesn't expect a

25:52

lot out of the players. He's

25:54

very demanding, and I think

25:57

the players understand that, and I think that's...

26:00

a reason for optimism.

26:02

You know, that's why folks can

26:04

think think that things are

26:07

going to go well in 2024 because

26:10

the schedule is set up for that. And

26:12

I think again, I think the the

26:14

approach that rule takes with its

26:17

players has this program going

26:19

in the right direction to the to the

26:21

point at which I think they're

26:23

going to get a turnaround and at

26:26

least be bowl eligible this season.

26:28

Mike, I think Matt

26:32

rules very authentic and

26:34

sincere and I

26:36

think because he communicates so well and

26:38

he puts in a lot of time with

26:40

the guys, not just to you know, the

26:42

all Americans or the perceived all Americans, but

26:45

he kind of reminds me and I'd always I'd

26:48

go to games with my dad and

26:50

sometimes especially on the road and

26:52

for whatever reason it was Kansas.

26:55

So it was you know, Lincoln

26:57

South for a lot of years and Lawrence and

27:00

you get there and everyone stretch it right.

27:02

Remember, Nebraska stretch out on the field on

27:04

their side of the 50 and he

27:07

would go around and just like slap

27:10

people on the shoulder pad or shake

27:12

their hand and you'd see

27:14

guys. I mean all 85 or

27:17

however many were suited up on

27:19

the road just start smiling

27:21

because T.O. came over and said what's up

27:23

to him. Now, I haven't seen a

27:25

practice, but I get that same sort of

27:27

vibe from rule with

27:30

how personal it is for him and I

27:32

think you can push guys harder Mike if

27:34

they know you really care about him. You're

27:37

not just a dude that can run

27:39

for a thousand yards. Yeah,

27:41

no, I agree with that and

27:43

again taking the media availability. There

27:45

has not been a question about

27:47

a player regardless of who

27:49

the player is that

27:52

rule hasn't been able to answer and

27:55

you get the sense that he has a connection

27:57

with that player. I mean, I

27:59

really believe. I believe that, you know,

28:01

it's difficult, but that's one of the

28:03

things that always impressed me about Tom,

28:05

same as you, is that

28:08

he knew his players on

28:10

a personal level. And I think

28:12

that Matt Rule is the same kind of coach. You

28:15

know, he knows all of his players. He

28:18

understands that and the importance of that.

28:21

And I think it just makes for a

28:23

better team when you have that kind of a

28:26

coach in charges, like,

28:29

regardless of where I am on the depth chart,

28:32

he knows me, he knows about me,

28:34

and, you know, that's important. And

28:36

he, you know, you ask him about any

28:38

player and he'll tell you the

28:41

positives about that player, again,

28:43

regardless of where they are on the depth chart. It's

28:46

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29:01

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29:03

have more with Mike. We're up against a hard break.

29:06

So we'll spend time with Babbers here on the other side

29:09

for a couple of minutes, some of those comments

29:11

from Coach Rule and

29:13

Dillard Riola on busing

29:15

with the boys. Next

29:18

segment, don't forget Jabba Chamberlain on the state

29:20

of Husker baseball. Come in up here

29:22

a little bit after five. And we'll catch up

29:24

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29:38

So Dion checks in on Husker

29:40

baseball. I'm so sick

29:42

and disgusted with losing all

29:45

sports to that I

29:48

very much hated in high school. Mr.

29:53

Snitley, Brian checks in from the Boulder

29:55

Peace Treaty. Again,

29:57

if you get out to Colorado, Elijah, when

29:59

you leave, this weekend you

30:02

will need to commemorate where

30:05

that bar tab and

30:07

more so the tap

30:10

was opened back up for Nebraska fans

30:12

after the Colorado game more with Mike

30:14

Babcock on the way. And

30:18

now and now

30:21

hail varsity radio.

30:24

I just wind down but I want to get you

30:26

take we're a little more

30:28

than a week away from the NFL

30:31

draft. What should Nebraska

30:34

expectations be? When

30:37

it comes to the NFL draft as

30:39

far as kids per year from

30:42

Nebraska going into the league it

30:44

seemed like on an

30:46

average you had I don't know

30:48

four to six guys drafted every

30:50

year for a lot of years

30:52

and quite honestly you had

30:55

guys that started go off to the

30:57

draft their backups would then get drafted

30:59

I think of the Mike Browns and

31:01

Mike Minners and V-lands of the world

31:03

or I think of the the

31:05

Russian U part of things with Wistrom,

31:08

Kroll, Roderick

31:10

Thomas, Neil Smith, I mean go through

31:12

a lot of Charlie's defensive lines

31:15

and edge guys. I mean they there was

31:17

just a so a riches

31:19

of talent there we move forward

31:21

here to 2024 going

31:23

to be light in the draft probably for

31:25

Nebraska but moving forward that's an emphasis for

31:28

coach rule he wants to get guys to

31:30

the league. Yeah

31:32

you know and that's one of the things he

31:34

says is that you know he wants to wants

31:37

to help him I think that the two guys that

31:39

could have gone this year didn't Ben

31:41

Scott and Bryce Benard I think they made

31:43

a good decision to come back for one

31:46

more year to prepare them for the NFL. You

31:50

know I think it is going to be light for Nebraska

31:52

the draft this year but I think

31:55

as you go move down the line I think

31:57

you're going to see a more opportunity

32:00

for Nebraska guys to be an

32:02

NFL draft, again, because of the

32:05

approach of Matt Rule and

32:07

his assistant coaches. Is

32:09

there a number for you, though? I mean, is

32:11

there a sweet spot, five or six a year,

32:13

either between draft and free agency? You

32:16

know, I'm

32:19

not smart enough to put

32:21

a number on it. No, it's fine. And,

32:25

you know, your first priority is to

32:27

get guys here that can be

32:30

successful at the collegiate level, whatever that

32:32

takes. And sometimes that's

32:34

different than the NFL. You know,

32:38

sometimes you get a... Go

32:40

back to Tom Osborne. An

32:43

offensive lineman like Aaron Taylor was

32:46

not an NFL tie-in guy, but

32:49

he came here and won

32:51

the Allen Trophy and was

32:53

an all-American and played both center

32:56

and played guard. He

32:58

fit the system. And

33:00

so the first concern is to get

33:03

players that fit your system and

33:05

then work with them

33:07

and encourage them, prepare

33:09

them for the NFL. So I

33:11

don't really have a number. I don't know that you

33:14

could do that and

33:17

still be successful on

33:21

the field as a college team. It's

33:24

Mike Babcock, Mike. As we say goodbye, what's coming

33:26

up with the newsletter? This,

33:30

the next one up has a little bit

33:33

to do with the offensive line. It might

33:35

be a little bit redundant, but how redundant

33:37

I am when it comes to the offensive

33:39

line, that's important. And, you

33:41

know, talking to Donovan Riello the other

33:44

day really puts in

33:46

perspective on how they approach it. Well, you

33:48

get a good line, you get a good

33:50

team, you get a good team, you have

33:52

happy fans, right? So it's

33:54

all good. Mike Babcock with us. Babbers,

33:56

we'll talk soon. Thanks for a few

33:58

minutes today. Thanks for having

34:00

me. Good to get caught

34:02

up with Mike Babcock at MDBabs on

34:05

Twitter. Chris Schmidt, Elijah Herbal, Connor Clark

34:07

is absent today. He's in class. He's

34:09

in class. Gotta graduate supposedly. He does.

34:11

I gotta, we gotta find out how

34:14

the day party was last Saturday. I

34:16

saw some social media posts where there

34:19

was just a whole bunch of shirtless

34:21

men in a backyard, so Connor Clark

34:23

included, so I think it went well.

34:25

It was a weird party. Uh huh. Sounds

34:28

like a good party to me. Well, sure. These

34:30

shirtless women. No, easy. Wow.

34:34

Wow. 1950s Elijah

34:36

strikes again. It's alright.

34:38

Let's check in with the bus and with

34:40

the boys again. A good episode from Will

34:43

Compton. And this

34:45

was Matt Ruhl on

34:47

the topic of recruiting. Yeah, Will's

34:49

like envision that Nebraska's in

34:51

the top three and

34:53

you're making your final recruiting pitch to me. What would

34:55

it be? Okay, let's hear it. First

34:58

of all, who's on three? I

35:01

think wherever you go, you're gonna be just

35:03

kind of know you. I've

35:05

got to know your family. So

35:08

for me, I think it's really, I don't think you can go

35:10

wrong anywhere you go. I think the football's

35:12

gonna be a care of itself. I think the

35:14

biggest thing for me is I care

35:17

about what happens to you

35:19

outside of your football. I care about what

35:21

happens to your wife. I care about someday a

35:24

little group well enough to be proud of who

35:26

you are. And so if those other coaches and

35:28

those other people have that same connection with you

35:30

and your family, if they know what matters to

35:32

you the same way that I do, you should

35:34

go there. But if you want to come somewhere that's not gonna set you a great ball

35:36

on the field. Well

35:45

done. And that's

35:47

Matt Ruhl on recruiting. We started

35:49

the show off talking about

35:52

the USA Today story on

35:54

Matt Ruhl. He's recruiting what

35:56

Nebraska has done on the road in state and

35:58

out of state. beat

36:00

in the streets, getting in the

36:02

vehicle, getting in the

36:05

jet and just touring, man. Touring

36:07

to go meet and greet and

36:09

connect with prospects for

36:12

beyond football. And

36:14

you've got DMs for Colorado being thrown

36:16

out there by both the

36:18

DMs kids when they're trying to add

36:21

in the portal. We have time for

36:23

Dylan Riola in the topic

36:25

of field storming. That was asked about

36:28

because you've got what

36:30

field, you had court storming

36:32

for Nebraska basketball, some monster

36:34

wins, but there's been

36:37

instances where Memorial Stadium's been

36:39

stormed and here's Riola and

36:41

was asked about that. Oh,

36:44

when they were at Rush the Field? Colorado

36:47

and they were at Rush the Field.

36:49

And he's just running by. Oh

36:51

yeah, usually the team. I

36:56

didn't get to play with you dad, but I

36:58

heard you. Still

37:05

is. Well

37:08

Dom, that's funny. And if you missed it, Dylan

37:10

was a little bit off mic there so they

37:12

didn't come through. He essentially said, my dad was

37:14

out there telling me he used to go out

37:17

there clothesline in people when they stormed the field.

37:19

Which has been reported. Well, here's the thing. Nebraska

37:22

in I think of the years that

37:24

Dominic played, I think he

37:26

redshirted in 97. Because

37:33

Kraynak, I might have had class with him. I

37:35

had class with him in Davidson. So

37:37

when we were in college and you

37:39

had 97 as a redshirt,

37:41

he ended up getting into the lineup

37:44

playing a lot more in 98. And

37:47

then 99, the 12-1 number 2 finish. And

37:53

then 2000. Nebraska's

37:55

preseason number 1 in 2000, they win at Notre Dame. Dame

38:00

that year, tough one

38:03

against Oklahoma, and

38:05

then they lost at Kansas State late

38:07

ball game, ice, black ice ball game,

38:10

then they go absolutely annihilate Northwestern.

38:13

So I don't think they ever lost to Colorado in that

38:16

span. We can forgive

38:18

doing because you don't want to

38:21

lie. No, I know. I'm just

38:23

saying the two stormings I think

38:25

about that he had to deal with was 99 in Texas,

38:28

and I was down there for that because my cousin

38:31

went to Texas, Cousin Dino's son. So

38:33

we were down there for that, chalk up another

38:35

loss for Schmidt on the road this

38:38

time during the college era. But

38:40

they stormed. I mean, there were people in the fountains

38:42

in Austin in 99. He had

38:45

McConaughey go on Howard Stern show the week

38:47

after talking about Big Win for Mac. That

38:50

got sucked. That was awful. But

38:53

yeah, I mean, people, Texas

38:55

fans stormed Nebraska. And

38:57

I think some of

39:00

Bevo's finest may

39:02

have felt the wrath of number 54. That's

39:04

all I'm going to say was

39:06

on the field. Hour two on

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39:15

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39:17

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39:19

Elijah. You want me to speak? I'm going to

39:21

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39:26

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40:00

on News Talk 900. So

40:02

Elijah, let me ask you this question. We'll

40:04

say the display you

40:06

put out with your

40:09

shooting touch, with

40:11

the hotshot basketball set up here

40:13

during the tournament in

40:16

the hallways here. It wasn't just a shooting

40:18

performance, let it be clear, it was a

40:20

post-up performance, defense performance. You

40:22

were wanting some sort of response

40:24

by coaching staffs and NIL

40:27

posse opportunities. I showed I have the complete

40:29

package and I want that complete NIL package.

40:31

You do. And that makes sense. You

40:34

showed it fade away, you showed up

40:36

off the dribble, and good

40:38

touch around the rim. That

40:41

being said, if

40:44

you would have gotten that offer

40:46

and say somebody says, you know

40:48

what, we're going to take Elijah in the

40:50

second round, would you

40:52

play with fire and say, I'm pretty

40:54

good at picking NBA games? Would

40:57

you gamble? Would

41:01

you just set on fire to your

41:03

half million dollar a year contract at

41:05

worst and multi-million dollar

41:08

contract at best when

41:10

it comes to Porter and the Raptors? You

41:13

got to be some sort of idiot dude to just

41:17

gamble and get banned. Let's be

41:19

clear here. Let's be cool. Allegedly.

41:22

Well, this is allegedly. It's

41:24

true. NBA has acted. Did

41:27

their security set up with

41:29

the NBA? They don't

41:31

make a ruling until every T is crossed and I

41:33

is dotted. Did you see some of the fine print

41:35

on this? Did you see what state he was in

41:37

whenever he was making these bets? Well,

41:40

it wasn't Nebraska. It was Colorado. Now

41:43

ask yourself, why would John T. Porter

41:45

be making bets in Colorado? Oh, maybe

41:47

it's because his brother Michael plays

41:50

for the Denver Nuggets. And he was

41:52

staying with him. And I'm

41:54

not going to accuse Michael Porter Jr. of anything because that's

41:56

my guy. I'm a Nuggets fan. That being

41:58

said. I

42:00

think John T. Porter took

42:02

one for the team. Could have,

42:04

I think regardless, whether or not he

42:07

took one for the team, or whether or not he

42:09

was the mastermind behind all this, he's

42:11

gonna be well taken care of by his brother. So

42:14

I don't think it's the biggest death blow in the

42:16

world, the fact that he was banned from the NBA.

42:18

Because I don't think he was gonna be on a

42:20

roster much longer anyway. Okay. I think he

42:22

was not long for the NBA, luckily his brother is,

42:24

and his brother's on a max contract. So, I

42:27

think he's gonna be just fine. That's

42:30

what I'll say about this, and I'm

42:32

not gonna insinuate it. It's family versus

42:34

an interpreter. Yeah, I was gonna go

42:36

the interpreter route, saying he's

42:38

100% taken the fall here. But

42:40

it's something interesting you can look at.

42:43

As the Nuggets fan, I'm not making any accusations

42:45

because I would never. Okay,

42:47

okay. But I do think it's interesting if you

42:50

read some of the fine print there. Regardless, he

42:52

was staying with his brother in Denver, by all reports,

42:55

and kind of

42:57

shows his brother's willing to take care of him. So

42:59

he'll be fine. Porter's stats and statistics,

43:04

where we're talking $1.1 million per the NBA here, we're

43:09

talking 80 grand a single game

43:11

parlay, which would net him 1.1. And

43:16

he played three minutes before

43:18

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44:01

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44:04

in his baseball den, Jabba Chamberlain

44:06

with this. And Jabba,

44:09

I think the

44:11

term bullied is

44:13

understood universally. Either

44:16

you're the bully or you're being bullied. In

44:19

this definition, we

44:22

turn to the Nebraska bullpen

44:24

as much of

44:26

the same man, Nebraska's bullpen called

44:28

upon to do a job and

44:31

last weekend in Jersey wasn't good. It

44:33

got tough to

44:35

take last night for a lot of Nebraska fans

44:38

with falling against

44:40

in-state rival Creighton in dramatic

44:42

fashion again, this time at

44:44

Haymarket. Yeah, I

44:46

mean, it's

44:48

kind of a kick in the gut after, you know,

44:50

kind of, you know, trying to be

44:52

a bounce back and obviously

44:54

the in-state too, I think kind of plays

44:56

a factor. And to that too, how, you

45:00

know, it kind of just a gut

45:02

punch as you had a lead and

45:04

we saw we had leads during the

45:06

weekend and how everything kind of just

45:08

played itself out. And I think, you

45:11

know, that's one of those things where

45:15

that's what mid-weeks are for, is

45:18

to get that bounce back and you start

45:20

playing some of these, you know,

45:23

big mid-week aspects of

45:25

okay, you know, we got to start off

45:27

if we have a rough stretch coming or

45:29

if we're going through a rough stretch, this

45:31

is a chance to bring us back. And

45:34

I think it's kind of played

45:37

itself out to where we've

45:39

seen what it's

45:41

become and, you know, it's

45:44

not by lack of

45:46

effort, that's for dang sure, but it's

45:49

also where, you know, we

45:51

got to figure these out because those

45:53

are big wins, those are big momentum

45:55

games. And I think that's, you

45:58

know, it. it has gone

46:01

not the way we would

46:03

like it to go. Let's just put it that way.

46:06

And where they can, you know,

46:08

obviously, you know, bounce back.

46:10

And I think obviously having a tough

46:12

weekend coming up. But I think

46:15

it's just everything that, you

46:17

know, they've worked for whatever is in

46:19

front of them. They just, you know,

46:21

they have to execute and be more

46:23

consistent. Jabba, at what point

46:25

does a hiccup in

46:28

the season, which is what Nebraska has been on.

46:30

It's been a rough patch. And that's going to

46:32

happen in baseball. You see it in the majors.

46:34

You see it in college. You see it in

46:36

high school. Whenever you have a long baseball season,

46:38

hiccups happen. Rough

46:40

stretches happen. At what point does

46:42

a rough stretch become an actual cause for concern

46:44

for this team? Has it reached

46:47

that point with the Husker Baseball team

46:49

yet where a lull in the season

46:51

has actually given

46:53

you cause for concern for what this team can be

46:55

long term? No,

46:58

I don't think it's there.

47:00

And I wouldn't say

47:02

it's teetering on that aspect just

47:04

because of what

47:07

they've done this year already. There

47:09

are the hiccups. I mean, those things happen,

47:11

right? And I mean, that's just the game

47:13

of baseball. I mean, it's set up for

47:15

us to fail anyway. But

47:19

I think, too, where they

47:22

know what's in front of them and

47:24

it's just it's the

47:26

game of baseball is great because

47:29

you got to have a short term memory and

47:32

you can't let it fester because if then you

47:34

do, then the hiccup turns

47:36

into a whole vomit. And

47:39

now it turns into something worse.

47:41

And I think the short term

47:44

memory of these guys and I

47:46

think they have great leaders in the aspect of

47:48

allowing them to be able to, you

47:51

know, just not have it be a hiccup and

47:53

turn into something more. And, you

47:55

know, that's the ebbs and flows of a season.

47:57

I mean, that's just kind of the way it

47:59

is. if we could win every game, we

48:02

wouldn't be able to talk about anything. So

48:06

that would be pretty boring for all of us.

48:08

And, but yeah, no, I don't,

48:11

I think this is a stretch where they

48:13

can really, really learn and

48:15

they can, they can grow from it and

48:18

what it's going to do. I think in long-term

48:21

is going, it's going to make them a

48:23

better baseball team and they're going to understand,

48:25

you know, let's not have

48:27

this, let's, let's try and stop it

48:29

or let's do something. And whether

48:32

that's individually, whether

48:34

that's team wise, I think this will

48:36

just make them better in the long-term

48:39

and they, they have the opportunity to do it.

48:41

I mean, it all lies in their hands and

48:44

that's, that's kind of what I

48:46

think it needs to be having great

48:48

leaders, but yes, I think this will

48:51

make them better long-term. It

48:53

is kind of wild job that we're talking

48:55

like this about a team that

48:57

has only lost one weekend series all

48:59

year long. I mean, it happened this

49:02

past weekend, so it's fresh in the

49:04

memory, but they've only lost one weekend

49:06

series and technically only two overall considering

49:08

Creighton is a season series different

49:10

because it's midweek. I kind

49:12

of evaluate these two things differently, but at

49:14

the end of the day, that is what

49:17

the big 10 is in baseball and that

49:19

the big 10 is not a powerhouse. There's

49:21

not many chances to show yourself whenever you

49:23

do drop a series and a chance to

49:25

show yourself it reflects poorly upon your team

49:27

to the eventual selection

49:30

committee whenever they're looking at your

49:32

resume. It's tough in the big 10

49:34

and that your margins for error are so thin, but that's

49:37

what I'm trying to balance right now with this team

49:39

is on one hand, they've still only lost one weekend

49:41

series all year long, but the other hand, it's the

49:43

big 10. You don't have much room to slip up.

49:46

I don't, I don't disagree. And it's, I

49:49

think it just, it, it becomes magnified because

49:51

it, it's kind of came in a stretch

49:54

where they, you know, they bounced back

49:56

and forth and now it's

49:58

like, okay, here you go. It's like. they

50:00

all kind of happen consecutively. So and like

50:02

you said, I think it's magnified

50:05

in the aspect of it's happened

50:08

consecutively and it's fresh in our mind

50:11

where it's like, let's look

50:13

at this as a whole, right? Exactly

50:15

what you said, we've lost one

50:17

series and there's not a

50:19

lot of margin for error, but

50:22

at the same time, it's like, okay, let's

50:24

focus on the positives here. Let's

50:26

focus on the good things that we have

50:29

going for us. It's not

50:31

like we're five and 20. You

50:34

know, it's, there's so

50:36

many positives that

50:39

it's just when it's so fresh in your

50:41

mind, I think sometimes you

50:43

focus so much on the negative more so

50:45

than the positive and they're still

50:47

in a good position. Jabba

50:50

Chamberlain's with us here on Hale Varsity

50:52

Radio. Krishmita, Elijah Herbal. At what point

50:54

do you turn the page, go find

50:56

a new candidate who's up next to

50:58

go do a job or

51:01

do you keep rolling with who you're

51:04

dancing with and expect

51:08

and hope they snap out of it?

51:10

Because there's been more than

51:12

one instance where guys

51:14

in that bullpen haven't done a job. At what

51:16

point do you move on for the good of

51:18

the team? I think

51:20

with what they've obviously, I mean,

51:22

we're so deep into the

51:25

season, I think it, you're

51:27

kind of seeing everybody that we're

51:29

going to see. It's just in

51:31

what role or what

51:34

capacity are they going to continue

51:36

to throw? Is it high leverage?

51:38

Is it to get us through an inning? Is

51:41

it to give us a little bit of length?

51:44

I mean, I think that's

51:46

more so the question than anything. I

51:48

think obviously we've seen the conglomerate of

51:51

the group of guys that we're going to use. Unless

51:55

they have somebody on the back burner that's just

51:57

sitting there that hasn't thrown. I

52:01

would think that they're obviously all been out

52:03

there at some point where

52:05

they're going to have that

52:07

group of guys. Now it's just going to

52:10

be where are they going

52:12

to use them because, you know, they've

52:14

all had success in

52:16

certain roles. They've all failed

52:19

in certain roles. And, you know,

52:22

that's the game of baseball as

52:24

well is going to go

52:27

out and have a zero every time. I

52:29

mean, that's just the nature of the beast.

52:31

But I think it's

52:33

just finding out like where

52:35

they all fit in to get to where they

52:38

want to go. And I think obviously

52:40

we all have planes

52:42

of grandeur and high hopes for this team.

52:45

And I think for them individually

52:47

is kind of just figuring

52:49

it out. But I think it's not

52:52

necessarily a move on, but it might be next

52:55

guy in line. Well, it's a

52:57

trusting too. I mean, who can you

52:59

trust? Who do you trust? What's

53:01

Rob's response right now? What's he saying to

53:03

the pitchers today in practice?

53:07

Well, when you watch a game and

53:09

you see Rob's head going up and down, you know, that's

53:11

not a good conversation on the mound. I can tell you

53:13

that. I mean, he's getting into

53:16

you. But I think

53:19

he's so good at what he does. It's hey,

53:22

it happens. Let's move on.

53:24

Like it's a new day. You

53:27

know, let's focus on what we can do. Like and

53:30

the only thing we can do is get better every day because

53:33

we're not going to we all don't have

53:35

good days at the office. I mean, that's just the

53:38

way it is. It's awesome when you have a good

53:40

day. Yeah, it doesn't hurt. It

53:44

makes you feel a little bit better going to class in the

53:46

morning. But they

53:49

literally I think

53:51

they're just such a good place with

53:53

the guys that are leading them to

53:56

where it won't

53:58

fester and that they'll. able to grow

54:02

and be like, hey, let's learn from this. Like,

54:04

hey, what did we do good

54:06

that we can focus on and

54:08

not harp on all the negatives? Strava

54:11

Chamber is huge. Strava Chamber went

54:13

with us here on Hail Varsity Radio, talking

54:15

some Husker baseball. And Jabbaz, we

54:17

look ahead. I don't want to focus too

54:20

much. It's one baseball game, obviously, during a

54:22

bad stretch. A really, really rough top of

54:24

the ninth. I don't think I have to

54:26

remind Husker fans. So let's look forward.

54:29

Look ahead to what's coming up for this

54:31

Husker baseball team, because that's what's important to

54:33

me. Whenever you look at the upcoming weekend,

54:36

how important do you think it is

54:38

for this Husker baseball team to get

54:40

back on track, to stack some wins,

54:42

to get a series victory against a

54:44

pretty good baseball team in Maryland? I

54:46

mean, at what point does

54:49

this stretch of

54:51

rough performances have to end

54:54

before you start getting concerned about what this baseball

54:56

team actually is? I

54:58

mean, I think we're in a good spot, obviously,

55:00

with Stears coming out on Friday and what he's

55:02

been able to do for us. I think he

55:05

puts us in a very, very good position. And

55:10

to, I

55:12

guess, put it on his back

55:14

to be like, hey, here we go. You

55:16

know what? Let's get this going again. Let's

55:18

start another win streak. Let's

55:20

go from here. And he's

55:22

proven that, obviously, throughout this entire

55:25

year with his record and what

55:27

he's done. You

55:29

know, I think it's contagious.

55:31

I think when you have a guy

55:33

like that and what

55:35

he's done for the team. And I think

55:38

that just as

55:41

you go forward and

55:43

trying to create

55:45

that another streak and

55:48

see a guy go out and do what he does, and then

55:50

it's like, OK, I need to do the same thing. Like, OK,

55:52

I'm not him, but you know what? Let

55:55

me go out. And obviously, we've

55:58

seen guys. pitched

56:01

really, really well. And

56:04

I think that just it, it

56:06

grows and it is contagious

56:09

in the aspect of. If

56:11

we get it started here, you're

56:14

only as good as your last game, right? Now

56:17

we, now we get two days to be

56:20

like, all right, now you know what? This, this is all

56:22

starts over. We don't have to worry

56:25

about anything. So I think they're

56:28

set up to start something good.

56:31

And obviously Maryland's going to, it's going to be a

56:33

battle, but I think with having Sears going and

56:35

getting us out on the right foot, I think

56:38

we're in a good position. Java

56:40

Chamberlain's with us. Hail, Varsity radio

56:43

thoughts on Nebraska baseball. At

56:45

what point do you worry about

56:47

a crisis, a confidence Java with,

56:51

with turning the ball over? We,

56:53

we think that Sears

56:56

and the Conahay we're talking big

56:58

10 and national pictures of the week. Your

57:01

offense has shown the ability to go off,

57:04

but when it comes to complimentary baseball,

57:07

as we wind it down here, it's

57:10

rarely, at least in this post

57:13

10 wind stretch come together for Nebraska.

57:15

It's just been, okay, the

57:17

offense is going off. I EC Kansas,

57:20

you give up 13. Uh,

57:22

it came together last Saturday where you

57:24

put up 16 to one, but you

57:26

got an amazing performance by McConaughey, uh,

57:29

the one, two punch Friday, Saturday should be

57:32

good. When you get just enough

57:34

offense and then you turn it over to middle relief

57:36

and bullpen, but the confidence factor,

57:39

how big is it to have a, a will bolt

57:41

and Rob Childress to keep guys strong

57:43

between the ears? You got to do it. Yes. As

57:45

a player, but you also have to have your, your

57:48

coaches slash program leaders. Help,

57:50

help keep you in that right. I

57:53

had space. Yeah. I mean,

57:55

it's tough when it's, you

57:58

know, when we're talking about. about

58:01

how you just worded it in

58:04

leaders in the program because we're

58:06

still dealing with kids here.

58:08

We're still dealing with them

58:10

growing and

58:14

learning not only as young men, as

58:16

baseball players, but

58:20

as what

58:23

they wanna be in their career. And

58:25

I think that's the hardest dynamic,

58:28

and I know it's frustrating. It's like you come

58:30

out of a game and you don't know what

58:33

you're gonna get. But I think

58:35

where that comes to is it's the clubhouse

58:40

and it's the guys believing in one

58:42

another where they

58:44

go to each other at a

58:46

point because

58:49

there's only so much a coach can do. And

58:53

that's to give them confidence. That's to build them up

58:55

and be like, okay, we're putting you in this situations

58:58

because we believe in you. But

59:01

sometimes you gotta look in the mirror

59:03

and be like, I believe in myself

59:06

because I have to be better in myself

59:08

to make this team better. And

59:11

I think that there's

59:13

some self analysis of these things.

59:17

You know, you gotta be able to be like, all

59:20

right, how do I get better today? What can I work

59:22

on? I know what I did good,

59:25

but there's obviously

59:27

other execution pitches or was

59:30

it pitch sequence or

59:34

how do these things that

59:36

I need to work on, how do

59:38

they get better? And I think that's

59:40

a self analysis thing. Jabba

59:42

will catch up again soon. Thanks for a

59:44

few minutes, man. You got it

59:46

anytime, Gus. And

59:49

now back to Hale

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tough one against Creighton some thoughts on spring

1:00:12

football Evan Bland with this year from

1:00:14

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Evan Bland OWH on Twitter.

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It's where you find and follow him. Evan,

1:00:21

how's the day? Thanks for a few minutes.

1:00:24

Do all right. Yeah. It's a, you

1:00:26

know, gorgeous spring day out here. No

1:00:28

complaints on this end. Are you firing

1:00:31

the grill up tonight? Probably

1:00:35

not tonight, maybe this weekend, but

1:00:37

this is prime weather. I mean,

1:00:39

whether you're going propane or charcoal

1:00:41

or whatever it might be. I

1:00:44

mean, now's the time. Let's let's get it going.

1:00:46

Well, let's ask the question to you propane or

1:00:48

dogs. I'll just say propane or charcoal because

1:00:51

the thing with brats and dogs and burgers and all that

1:00:53

you can argue till your face turns blue, but no matter

1:00:55

what, you're going to enjoy it propane

1:00:57

and charcoal. I think is the real argument. Well,

1:01:01

no, I agree. I mean, propane, you

1:01:03

got the efficiency for sure, but I

1:01:05

don't know. I have a

1:01:07

kind of a nostalgia, nostalgia, I suppose,

1:01:09

for charcoal. I mean, you go camping,

1:01:12

you stick those those embers

1:01:14

out there and there's just a certain

1:01:16

smoky flavor to it. I suppose

1:01:18

that's anti Hank Hill, you know,

1:01:20

sort of propane enthusiasts out there. But,

1:01:22

you know, that's that's just me. See,

1:01:25

and she says there's no argument. I think there is the

1:01:27

argument because of the convenience factor with propane. The fact that

1:01:29

you can crank that thing up and it's ready to

1:01:31

go immediately. But with charcoal, it's better

1:01:34

flavor. It's Evan's right. It is better flavor than

1:01:36

throw it on the smoker. It's

1:01:39

like it's the microwave versus the stove kind of thing.

1:01:41

Like if you want a little quicker, a little more

1:01:43

efficient propane is probably the way to go, but

1:01:46

if you if you're settling in for the long haul, you

1:01:48

know, warm up those those

1:01:50

charcoal grills and let

1:01:53

that thing, you know, laborfully burn

1:01:55

slow. You can even go with the secondary argument of

1:01:57

do you go lump charcoal or do you go with

1:02:00

briquette that's a that's a common

1:02:02

to go to record briquette i don't i've

1:02:04

never used charcoal ever ever ever you

1:02:07

never get a better here than on charcoal really

1:02:09

and i have never get a better

1:02:11

here uh... let's switch to baseball evan

1:02:14

and no and in

1:02:16

no way shape or form i talking about

1:02:18

flammable things in the brassicas bullpen in the

1:02:20

same sense but we know they cook in

1:02:22

the road but they don't know but uh...

1:02:25

it's uh... it's problematic what was will's message

1:02:27

last night is he met with the media

1:02:31

but you know i honestly i think he was more

1:02:34

upset by the offense of side of things

1:02:36

in the in the fact that the wind

1:02:38

is howling out to last and

1:02:40

nebraska did not do what created which was

1:02:43

get the ball up into that jet stream

1:02:45

and see what happens and that's essentially what

1:02:48

teddy debtors did on his soul shot men again on

1:02:50

his grand slam i mean you got the ball in

1:02:52

the air and the wind took care of it and

1:02:54

just pushed it over the wall and nebraska just

1:02:56

didn't you know that they they they

1:02:58

weren't able to extend believe

1:03:00

that they had in any

1:03:02

meaningful and it was three to one you make

1:03:05

that make five to one six to one

1:03:07

that's a much different game late and they

1:03:09

just say you know had too many innings

1:03:11

where they went quietly and

1:03:13

creating to its credit continued to

1:03:15

threaten them in a they

1:03:17

probably should have scored in the seventh they will

1:03:19

be basis with nobody out and then

1:03:22

come on this makes this great diving play

1:03:24

on a on a ball to that would

1:03:26

probably score two or three to right uh...

1:03:28

so i think there's kind of this recognition that yet

1:03:31

i mean the ball pen has had its high-profile

1:03:33

struggles certainly gets rutgers last week and

1:03:35

it did blow the game ultimately

1:03:38

against creating but like there's this idea

1:03:40

that uh... maybe shouldn't have come

1:03:42

to that and you know you also

1:03:44

kind of look at it the tuesday

1:03:46

game in particular i mean uh... we're going

1:03:48

to hold the nine the ball pen did

1:03:50

pretty much what you would

1:03:53

hope they would do it after family killed part of

1:03:55

the two scoreless kyle fralick have

1:03:57

a good outing uh... you know katie

1:03:59

dice comes in and has his moments. So like

1:04:01

there were a number of pitchers

1:04:04

that Nebraska maybe doesn't always rely on in

1:04:06

the most high of leverage situations that

1:04:08

did their job. It's just the margin

1:04:11

was too slim late and Creighton's a

1:04:13

good team on the other side, top

1:04:15

40 RPI team and they

1:04:17

continue to threaten and ultimately

1:04:19

we're able to flip that thing late. Is

1:04:22

there an argument to be made as in

1:04:24

that pulling Kyle Perry in the ninth and

1:04:26

the bases are loaded was a mistake in

1:04:28

hindsight, putting a guy into a tough position

1:04:30

like that, base is loaded, you gotta get

1:04:32

a couple of outs. Do

1:04:35

you see an argument for keeping, I mean really your most

1:04:37

experienced arm that you have on the entire team in the

1:04:39

game in that moment and let him get out of the

1:04:41

mess that he created? Possibly.

1:04:44

I mean they were playing the

1:04:46

match ups so Creighton

1:04:48

had it's right hander come up so

1:04:50

you didn't necessarily wanna go lefty

1:04:53

righty in that spot so they bring in Rand

1:04:56

Sanders. But yeah, I mean

1:04:58

Perry has been a co-closer for

1:05:01

Nebraska this year. He's been as a sixth

1:05:03

year guy, somebody that they

1:05:06

feel most confident will be

1:05:08

able to throw strikes and he did

1:05:10

have a key walk there late so I think

1:05:13

that's kinda what it came down to was just finding a

1:05:15

way to play those

1:05:17

match ups. Like honestly, in hindsight maybe

1:05:19

would have given Caleb Clark another inning

1:05:21

on the front end. I mean he

1:05:23

still hadn't gone through the Creighton order

1:05:26

the first time all the way

1:05:28

through when they pulled him after two and

1:05:31

Casey Dice was looking good at times

1:05:33

so it's such a fine line between

1:05:35

get him out when

1:05:37

they're ahead versus this idea that you

1:05:43

can keep him in there too long but

1:05:46

maybe you save some arms on the back

1:05:48

end. So yeah, I think there were a

1:05:50

lot of decisions late that maybe you can

1:05:52

think back on whether that was leaving Perry

1:05:54

in late, whether that was pinch hitting for

1:05:57

Max Beutenblock there and the two

1:05:59

outs there. who on and you know maybe you

1:06:01

know you could look at a guy like Garrett

1:06:03

Anglum in a situation like that so I think

1:06:06

it all just comes back to this notion again that

1:06:08

like when your

1:06:11

your offense doesn't give you that cushion then

1:06:13

every decision becomes all the

1:06:15

more magnified and I think that's kind of

1:06:17

where they're starting from is if this offense

1:06:19

does what the staff and the players believe

1:06:22

it can do then maybe it won't come

1:06:24

down to so many nail-biters where every little

1:06:26

decision could swing the game Evan

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funny but yeah everyone is on the

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charcoal wave Smitty yeah your response my

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response is I guess I need to

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is infrared so I can sear at

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all good it's so good so

1:07:28

let's talk Maryland here and where

1:07:30

is Nebraska as we

1:07:35

look at the Friday in the weekend yes it's

1:07:37

it's a monster series Nebraska needs to get out

1:07:39

of his funk they kick off you

1:07:42

know last night was the the start

1:07:44

of a homestand which is great but where

1:07:48

is Maryland problematic as an

1:07:50

early as you glimpse early

1:07:53

at Maryland and where you

1:07:55

think Nebraska has some advantages here

1:07:57

Evan well

1:07:59

it's a different sort of Maryland team

1:08:01

than what we've seen the last few years.

1:08:04

The Maryland that has won multiple big

1:08:06

10 championships was built on

1:08:08

power. I mean,

1:08:10

they were a top five home run

1:08:12

team nationally for a few years there.

1:08:15

And they won a lot of slugfest and this Maryland

1:08:17

team has kind of flipped that a little

1:08:19

bit. I mean, they actually have a few arms,

1:08:21

a little bit of depth of pitching, and the

1:08:24

offense has taken a step back

1:08:26

as most of their stars have

1:08:28

either graduated or moved on to the

1:08:30

professional level. They have a new head coach. Their

1:08:32

previous coach, Rob Vaughan, is now with

1:08:35

Alabama as a top 25 school. So a

1:08:37

lot of turnover in that program, but

1:08:40

still, I think some players that, you

1:08:42

know, kind of came up

1:08:44

in a culture of winning. And I think that's mattered

1:08:48

for them. They've been competitive. And

1:08:50

again, like they're not going to maybe

1:08:52

out slug you the way that

1:08:54

they would have in the past. They do have some arms. I

1:08:58

think Nebraska, its balance will serve

1:09:00

it well. You know, it's

1:09:02

been a struggle in April, but this is

1:09:05

a team that I think still has certainly

1:09:07

two coaces and Brett fears and Mason

1:09:10

McConaughey that will give it an advantage.

1:09:12

The bullpen,

1:09:14

I still think can come around, although that's

1:09:17

been a struggle for Nebraska of late. And

1:09:19

then the offense, you know, I think

1:09:21

it's still kind of figuring out what

1:09:24

that lineup is going to look like.

1:09:26

I mean, there's still four or five outfielders deep.

1:09:28

Now that you've got Keaton Brumbaugh back there as

1:09:31

the starting second baseman after six weeks out

1:09:33

with an arm injury that frees up the

1:09:35

designated hitter. So you're seeing more of Keith

1:09:37

Sanderson in that spot. That's

1:09:39

been a benefit to Nebraska, too. So I

1:09:43

think, you know, Nebraska probably has more path

1:09:45

to winning games right now than what Maryland

1:09:47

does. And, you know,

1:09:50

I understand, I suppose the concern

1:09:52

about Nebraska slump. They've lost six and nine

1:09:54

in April. But To me, this is

1:09:56

a stretch now where you've got three at home this

1:09:59

weekend. You've got four. Next week what I

1:10:01

was coming and like this is i think

1:10:03

kind of the moment for Nebraska to reassert

1:10:05

itself a market part to show that. I

1:10:08

really use the team that it showed itself to

1:10:10

be early that there are going to be swan

1:10:12

song The way I think this is really important.

1:10:14

To. Eat as starting this weekend. For

1:10:18

Nebraska the show that you know again

1:10:20

you can go on the road. funky

1:10:22

things happen, it's baseball but ultimately assist

1:10:24

or top twenty. Rp I teamed nationally.

1:10:26

They're still and strong position to be

1:10:28

in a post season team and and

1:10:30

that this is a weekend reactor gone

1:10:32

through that against a team that you're

1:10:34

probably better them. Isn't gonna

1:10:36

get away with this. You did

1:10:39

a couple of great features on

1:10:41

the Market Park Beer. In

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Nebraska and assault dogs don't resolve

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your the border regions vote Here

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poured. For. Nebraska Baseball games.

1:10:53

Thoughts on on the results here as

1:10:55

it looks like based on your he

1:10:57

really amazing reporting that there was an

1:11:00

impasse and all this and things got

1:11:02

six When you think. They.

1:11:05

Us are in the bathroom Bill Hemmer to part

1:11:07

put on it's rally cap late if it was

1:11:09

dismissed as as that thing was that. Was.

1:11:12

Dead his head flame in the top of

1:11:14

a nice to see. The. I'm

1:11:16

a they they they were how really

1:11:18

figured it out and honestly I would

1:11:21

credit tried and and the new athletic

1:11:23

director with a lot of the I'll

1:11:25

be curious to can see ah you

1:11:27

know if and when it gets past

1:11:29

kind of what would the impetus was

1:11:31

by now but as as you get

1:11:33

a little too i'm in the previous

1:11:35

him pass between Nebraska and the Sole

1:11:37

Dogs was about whether sure I am

1:11:39

and what percentage should each side yeah

1:11:41

it's Sole Dogs equipment etc and ultimately

1:11:43

they decided it was a sick all

1:11:45

those proceedings. Put them back into the

1:11:48

park for capital improvements. Moving. Forward

1:11:50

the both sides can benefit from

1:11:52

and so that was really the

1:11:54

says the key turn around and

1:11:56

again them into an and with

1:11:58

someone who came in. The

1:12:00

job I think was able to

1:12:03

start negotiations fresh. You

1:12:05

know in in in good faith and this

1:12:07

was the ultimate toy around. so if the

1:12:10

thing passes for it is a one would

1:12:12

expect that it would than Friday night you're

1:12:14

going to see a little beverages be in

1:12:16

service Nebraska before the hims the way they

1:12:18

have it's all those games for more than

1:12:21

twenty years so I think it just it

1:12:23

as a cool example of. In

1:12:26

a collaboration people can come together and.

1:12:28

And. Figure out what's best for fans

1:12:31

will also and of finding a

1:12:33

solution about the school programs to.

1:12:35

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Brendan how we Do and. A

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I do a great Chris, how

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are you guys doing were good

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were doing better than a lot

1:13:12

of major league baseball pitchers. for

1:13:14

me, Us Attorney John in the

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U Cel Stern points a lot

1:13:18

of stories. are you look in

1:13:20

Pittsburgh Big Gazette? You look at

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Cbs Sports E S P N.thomas

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the Athletic did a great feature

1:13:27

and listen to these names. Bieber.

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Strider. Jonathan Lucy

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us. Parades. Got.

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Me: Some of who's who, and some of

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the brightest young arms. Are on

1:13:38

the shelf because of. Elbow.

1:13:41

Ensues Doctor Brand in what do you think

1:13:43

when you see all of this happening? he

1:13:46

i said very fast and talk and i

1:13:49

would tell you have in a last probably

1:13:51

about oh twelve to fourteen months we've seen

1:13:53

his camera uptick in terms of the information

1:13:55

we're getting cash he didn't work and a

1:13:57

national sports meetings about this very topic discussed

1:14:00

really has been kind of an explosion, especially

1:14:03

in pictures, arms, obviously elbows, most importantly,

1:14:05

is where we're really seeing this. So

1:14:07

the Tommy Jones injury we've talked about

1:14:09

before, just kind of briefly here,

1:14:11

so as we kind of review our anatomy for this,

1:14:14

thinking about elbow inside a portion of your

1:14:16

elbow, there's a leg in it that supports

1:14:18

that elbow. And if you think about bringing

1:14:20

your arms straight out from your body and

1:14:22

then keeping the elbow where it is,

1:14:24

but moving your wrist and the hand away from the

1:14:26

body, that's kind of what we call a valgus moment

1:14:29

that puts stress on the arm. Same thing if

1:14:31

you put your arm up over your head like

1:14:33

you're going to throw. So when you're in that

1:14:35

very back portion, maybe to bring your arm forward

1:14:37

with your throw, that's that kind of same valgus

1:14:39

force as you're driving that arm forward, the hand

1:14:41

moving further back, that's that

1:14:43

valgus force that essentially stresses that leg

1:14:46

in that area. And so again,

1:14:48

we've just seen this huge jump in the number

1:14:50

of these injuries. I think we're up to kind

1:14:52

of 38 here recently with these

1:14:54

injuries the last couple of years. So very high

1:14:56

number, start to ask a lot of questions as

1:14:59

to why I heard a very interesting kind of talk

1:15:01

on this here just about three months ago

1:15:03

at a big sports conference. And

1:15:06

some of the kind of major orthopedic

1:15:08

players in the game think this might have

1:15:10

to do with getting kind of

1:15:13

totally banning all substances put

1:15:15

on the baseball. So what's super

1:15:17

important in addition to velocity at that high level,

1:15:19

it's all about kind of putting spin on your

1:15:21

ball. Anytime you have some type

1:15:23

of substance you can use that you can kind of,

1:15:25

some kind of lubricant if you will, you can kind

1:15:28

of slip your hand across the ball easier, spin

1:15:30

the ball better. When you take that away,

1:15:33

spin still gotta come from somewhere to keep hitters

1:15:36

off balance. And so what has happened is these

1:15:38

pictures have started with change, kind of how they're

1:15:40

gripping the ball. One of

1:15:42

the talks that we had was

1:15:44

one of the team docs for a team

1:15:46

out west and a very famous pitcher he was

1:15:48

dealing with, he asked him what his thoughts were

1:15:50

and he basically said, here's how I've had to

1:15:52

change baseball to deliver the

1:15:54

same spin and how do I can't use these

1:15:57

certain substances? And he showed

1:15:59

him that and then... they went through kind of

1:16:01

the biomechanics lab to look at that. They

1:16:03

found just an incredible amount of new forces

1:16:05

being applied to that inside part of the

1:16:07

elbow, you know, form first and foremost, the

1:16:09

muscle over the top of that ligament and

1:16:11

then the ligament itself. And

1:16:13

so that's, you know, kind of one of

1:16:15

the hypothesis behind this rash of injuries. Dr.

1:16:18

Wren, I know that Tyler Glass now would agree with you.

1:16:20

He talked about that back whenever

1:16:23

sticky substances were first banned, where he said

1:16:25

my first start afterwards, I used

1:16:27

to hold the baseball like an egg, and now I have to

1:16:29

really choke it. And he kind of felt the same thing that

1:16:31

you did that was going to lead to more elbow injuries. And

1:16:33

that's kind of what we're seeing. And

1:16:35

my question to you is with there currently

1:16:37

being 61 elbow injuries in the MLB,

1:16:41

not all of those are Tommy John, but almost every

1:16:43

single one of those from a pitcher, 61 elbow

1:16:46

injuries. What's your take? Are

1:16:48

we going to see a regression back in terms

1:16:50

of pitch clock in terms of the

1:16:53

velocity that guys throw it? Because guys

1:16:55

simply put for the most part, aren't built to

1:16:57

throw a baseball a hundred miles an hour on

1:17:00

the other side. They're also not built to do that

1:17:02

every 20 seconds. They're not meant to do it without

1:17:04

sticky stuff. And what it's led to is this, this

1:17:06

rash of elbow injuries. There's no one smoking gun in

1:17:09

my opinion, but do you think that

1:17:11

we're going to eventually see a regression

1:17:13

back so that we don't

1:17:15

see these elbow injuries or is, is sports medicine

1:17:17

going to have to adapt to this, expect this

1:17:19

to be the norm in baseball moving forward? Yeah,

1:17:23

Lige, those are great points. I agree. I

1:17:25

do think in a lot of ways it

1:17:27

is multifactorial. I

1:17:29

tend to be pretty optimistic about

1:17:31

things. I'm pretty optimistic about it,

1:17:33

but with this scenario, I'm actually

1:17:35

quite concerned that this number is

1:17:38

probably going to really explode over

1:17:41

the next couple of years. And I think

1:17:43

the biggest reason why is everybody's just chasing

1:17:45

velocity. They've got a bunch of velocity chasers

1:17:47

out there. You look across the spectrum, even

1:17:49

just a lot of the high school kids

1:17:52

I see around here, and there are many

1:17:54

kids who are throwing kind of high eighties,

1:17:56

low nineties, mid nineties that don't ever remember

1:17:58

that back, back in the day. when I was

1:18:00

in school. And so you have all these

1:18:02

kids who are doing that now and really, really stress

1:18:04

in their elbows to try to get to that kind

1:18:06

of extra level of velocity. I think

1:18:09

what is happening here, especially some of these

1:18:11

major league pitchers, we might just be kind

1:18:13

of scratching the surface on this. This probably

1:18:16

fits into alignment with that kind of chronic,

1:18:18

repetitive, extra stress, extra trauma, micro trauma to

1:18:20

that elbow and that UCLs are just getting

1:18:23

beat up so much earlier and so

1:18:26

much longer that you're going to start to

1:18:28

see, I think, even a higher explosion of these

1:18:30

injuries and I think it's just going to trickle down. You're going to

1:18:32

see it in high school, you're going to see it more in college,

1:18:34

obviously at the professional level, you're going to see it as well. And

1:18:37

so there's got to be, hopefully

1:18:39

we can get some good data

1:18:41

out about what is really an

1:18:43

appropriate velocity training program and

1:18:46

really what do some of these training programs,

1:18:48

what kind of injury risk is

1:18:50

involved with that. So that's something that

1:18:52

we definitely need to work on. I think that's

1:18:54

probably the biggest thing we need to really focus

1:18:57

on is how is this velocity training, how are

1:18:59

these programs impacting these young athletes, which then

1:19:01

leads to later on careers having a lot

1:19:03

of these injuries. Clearly the ball spin thing

1:19:05

is a big deal, the substance thing is

1:19:07

too. Dr. Brandon Seiferts with

1:19:10

us, Nebraska Orthopedic Center with Jock Dock Wednesday.

1:19:12

We're talking the run of Tommy

1:19:14

John injuries in Major League Baseball from 2011

1:19:16

to 2013. You had the average of

1:19:22

only six players between that

1:19:24

time had UCL reconstruction

1:19:26

before they were drafted, that

1:19:29

number now at 24 between 2021 and 2023. Dr.

1:19:32

Brandon, how do you explain Nolan Ryan? I

1:19:39

mean, he's pitching into his 40s,

1:19:42

a billion innings

1:19:45

per season. Don't remember

1:19:47

the old red

1:19:49

express being on the DL that often and

1:19:51

he can still throw mid 80s now as

1:19:54

he's in his mid 70s. Yeah,

1:19:57

it's amazing. You know, again, and

1:20:00

In Sonaro, he just made one of those folks

1:20:02

that just physiologically

1:20:04

more scarred in over that area.

1:20:07

There are some athletes out there that do

1:20:10

have insane crazy innings like that and throw

1:20:12

super hard and never ever have an issue.

1:20:16

Or is he also somebody that never

1:20:18

had the significant

1:20:20

velocity chasing training

1:20:22

that a lot of running athletes have when he was

1:20:24

younger? Maybe he had a

1:20:26

better elbow by the time he was able to arrive in the

1:20:28

major leagues that could be part of it. I think that's probably

1:20:30

a big part of it. Number

1:20:33

two is like what was he doing on the off season? Would

1:20:35

he need me to take the time off? My

1:20:38

guess is he took a lot of time off compared to what our

1:20:40

guys do now. That's a

1:20:42

good answer. That's a great answer. He

1:20:45

was feeding his cattle and being

1:20:47

a dude. Yeah, it's so

1:20:50

true. It's a tough conversation I

1:20:52

get it. Kids are trying to be great,

1:20:54

progress, maximize their abilities. That's the right answer.

1:20:56

We just got to find the balance. I'm

1:20:58

not harping on anybody. We just got to

1:21:00

find that balance because I definitely think that

1:21:02

plays a big role here in terms of

1:21:04

where some of these athletes are. I

1:21:07

see it in my own clinic. It's incredible

1:21:09

how many elbow injuries we're seeing. Even

1:21:12

when I started several years ago, it's

1:21:14

just a huge increase. Dr. Brandon Seifert

1:21:16

with us, Nebraska Orthopedic Center. Jock

1:21:19

Dock Wednesday. Dr. Brandon will check in

1:21:21

with you again soon. Thanks for a

1:21:23

few minutes today. Sounds great,

1:21:25

fellas. Y'all take care. All right. Good to

1:21:27

hear from Dr. Brandon. Wind down to Wednesday

1:21:29

next. And

1:21:31

now, and now, back

1:21:33

to Hale Varsity Radio. One

1:21:37

final time on a Wednesday. Big

1:21:39

thanks to Dr. Brandon Seifert, Nebraska

1:21:41

Orthopedic Center, Jabba Chamberlain this

1:21:43

hour, along with Evan Bland, plenty of

1:21:45

thoughts on Nebraska baseball as they try

1:21:47

and bounce back. Tough one against

1:21:50

Creighton. And good to hear from

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1:22:13

Barney, Coach Gary Barnett, trying to run

1:22:15

him down and confirm, but should

1:22:17

talk some college ball with Barney. And

1:22:20

we'll have some more thoughts

1:22:22

tomorrow from Nebraska coaches, Coach

1:22:24

Dvorcik, the Husker linebacker coach.

1:22:27

That middle level is

1:22:29

talented. There's some young

1:22:31

pups. And that's

1:22:33

the level with some guys that really

1:22:35

came on the scene a season ago,

1:22:37

a lot to replace,

1:22:40

quite honestly, at the linebacker spot. But

1:22:42

we'll see where things shake out. So some

1:22:45

player audio tomorrow as well. And I'm

1:22:47

sure we'll put our heads together with

1:22:49

a fun topic, similar to the gas

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versus propane fight. And

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the stream yard is chimed

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in. Everybody in the stream is starting

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5 and beyond have all said you

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wuss, Schmidt, get charcoal, get it

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done. I was frightened as a kid.

1:23:08

I saw this, and it was

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not only a bad sequel, but

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it was the European vacation, National

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Impun's European vacation, where

1:23:18

Clark is grilling

1:23:20

for the family, and they're

1:23:22

using charcoal. What's Griswold do?

1:23:25

He uses a half can

1:23:28

of lighter fluid, and then Ellen uses the

1:23:30

other half can of lighter fluid. And

1:23:32

he throws the match in, and it just torches

1:23:35

him. And then the camera cuts back to Griswold,

1:23:37

and his face is all fried. So

1:23:40

I said, not for me. Can't do it.

1:23:42

You understand you're not supposed to put that much lighter fluid in.

1:23:44

I know that. I don't even use lighter fluid. I know that.

1:23:47

You gotta get yourself one of the chimneys. But

1:23:49

either Ellen had a hit out on

1:23:51

Clark, or it's just

1:23:53

the Griswold. I don't think she had a hit out on him.

1:23:56

There was this one time. This is a different side

1:23:58

to side. grilling and the options

1:24:00

of things to grill on. During

1:24:03

my my trip to Africa to go visit

1:24:05

my aunt and uncle following my senior year

1:24:07

of high school, you'll

1:24:09

just drive down the road and

1:24:11

there's people selling coal and

1:24:14

that's one of the popular ways to grill

1:24:16

in Africa is you'll get yourself some roadside

1:24:18

coal and you grill directly over coal. Let

1:24:21

me tell you what, I had never

1:24:23

actually like used

1:24:25

coal directly in my day-to-day life. In

1:24:28

terms of grilling, it's fine but man that

1:24:30

stuff just burns forever, it's incredible. That's

1:24:32

just a random aside. Grilling over coal,

1:24:34

I don't necessarily recommend it. Charcoal

1:24:37

is better and parts better flavor, gets you a

1:24:39

little bit more consistency on the sear but like

1:24:42

grilling over coal, it's another option you might want to

1:24:44

add to the list because just the

1:24:46

length of time you can spend grilling over

1:24:49

coal is incredible. That's

1:24:51

fair. I'm not sure where in

1:24:53

America I can get coal for grilling purposes, it's

1:24:56

not quite popular here. It was great to

1:24:58

just drive down the road, oh yeah pound

1:25:00

of coal for a dollar, awesome sign me

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