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Ahoy to me one, Hamish.

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Oh, I hope we're you two albums or songs.

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Ahoy to me 360. Jack.

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Oh, are we Trix?

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No. Oh, hang on, we're Xboxers.

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We're Xboxers, hey! Yes,

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I'm Series X. Yes. What's

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one of you, Ando? I'm Series X. Is that

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the new one? The latest iteration. Of course. Just

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how the cards fell this time around. That's

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the way the cookie crumbles. I

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did think when it was a competition between the one and

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the 360, unlikely

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to be skateboard tricks. 360, of course, very

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impressive trick. A one, hard to detect.

1:02

One degree movement. A one degree

1:05

movement is... It's

1:07

not a showstopper at the X Games. Whoa,

1:09

it's popped a one, might have even been a two. A

1:13

low point scorer by Tony

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Hawks. Love you to just keep going

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the other 359 degrees if you think

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you can get them. Ahoy

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also to Freya and Josie in

1:24

Bosnia, who are telling us what they've been up to at HamishAndy.com

1:27

using the very easy to use system

1:29

of uploading. Well done, guys. Endurance athletes.

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Ahoy, HamishAndAndy and the

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number six, Freya and Josie

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here. Just on our very own EuroGap

1:39

here at the moment. We're in Mostar, Bosnia

1:41

and Herzegovina.

1:42

Currently watching the Red Bull Cliff Diving

1:44

Championships. Wish we were watching

1:47

you guys up there competing. You'd be a shoo-in.

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Cheers, guys. A

1:52

bit of context for people. We have

1:54

jumped. We have been to that town. There's a very

1:56

there's a bridge, an old stone bridge. It's

1:58

about 25 metres.

1:59

off the above the river. We

2:02

did jump from that bridge. Wow.

2:05

Couldn't actually think of a more accurate analogy

2:08

between a 360 and a 1. Like

2:11

what the Red Bull guys are doing is the equivalent of a 360.

2:14

And the Indian is a 1. Those guys

2:16

are diving off fearless, like

2:18

doing flips and stuff. We

2:20

stepped off into the abyss. I

2:22

was convinced I was going to die. Yeah, we both got whiplash.

2:25

Couldn't move our necks for a day and a half. And

2:28

Haim, half your quite thick wetsuit

2:31

ended up your bum. Up my bum. With

2:33

half the river. With half the river.

2:36

The river was about 25 metres from the bridge. And

2:39

after a lot of it went up my bum, about 30

2:41

metres from the bridge. Dropped the

2:44

volume of the river. Quite significantly. You

2:47

could see some fish, some old wrecks

2:49

from 1600s. Like really drained

2:51

the lake. It got us pretty bad.

2:54

Yeah, I was good. That's lovely. Do

2:56

not recommend. I saw footage of the

2:58

Red Bull jumpers though. And they

3:01

get something that you didn't. Where they break

3:03

the water with, they spray the water underneath

3:05

the jump. Oh yeah, that's true. I

3:08

think what you'd think was a problem. I

3:10

think Jack. Make it less painful.

3:14

Than hitting a wall at 80kph. We

3:16

need, they need to be like a, because Red Bull

3:18

own the extreme sport. There needs

3:20

to be like another drink brand. Like I'm thinking

3:23

Bonox, which is the beef drink. Which

3:25

is like what you take on camping in like

3:27

year 9. And you make this a warm soothing

3:30

mug of Bonox. They need to be like the

3:32

unskilled extreme athletes at that end.

3:35

Like we could be in the Bonox scared

3:37

man going literally competition. Or

3:41

like you know, he's a 45 year old dad. And

3:44

he's never been, hasn't been on a mountain bike since he

3:46

was 12. He's gonna have a go at going down this

3:49

trail. So creaky, squeezing

3:51

brakes, shooting himself, white knuckles.

3:54

I'd watch that. Bonox terrified

3:57

middle aged people. People,

3:59

Olympic. Thanks. Hey,

4:02

I thought I had a special guest start

4:04

off today's show. Oh no. Unfortunately,

4:07

I don't. Falling through. That's all right.

4:09

We try our best on this show. We move on. Back

4:12

story, a couple weeks back, my house, my apartment,

4:14

I just, I had, Beck and I just moved house into apartment.

4:17

It got completely flooded. Yeah. Yeah.

4:20

I put it up in the people. I saw it was violent

4:22

flooding. Yeah. Like a very small version

4:24

of Splash Mountain Disneyland. I was

4:27

in Sydney while it was happening in Melbourne.

4:29

So it was a good day for me. Caught wind of it.

4:32

You saw the initial wet patches on

4:34

the plaster and went, I might get out of here. So

4:38

what had happened was the fire

4:41

safety guys came around

4:44

to do what they call the pressure test and

4:46

there's hydrants or pipes at every single

4:49

level. And if they were to have

4:51

to run a water up from ground

4:53

level to one of their pipes, they need to make sure

4:55

that they've got the right amount of pressure. Yep. Forget.

4:58

Right. Not where they say to you, you now have

5:01

to make a crock and bush in one hour. A

5:03

different kind of pressure test. Yes. Also

5:06

hard. Yes. It

5:08

appears they didn't check whether

5:10

the pipes were capped at our level.

5:14

And we need a cap for pressure. A

5:16

thousand liters a second into our apartment.

5:19

A thousand liters a second. That's what the

5:21

guy says at the bottom. Now, whether that's possible, I don't know

5:23

whether you can do that. That's a

5:25

bath a second. That's more than a

5:27

bath. How much would you say a bath is? About

5:29

a thousand liters? Can't be even that, would it? Can't be

5:31

even that. Two baths a second. That's

5:33

what the fellow said at the bottom. Wow. Now,

5:36

whether he's right or not, it's a lot of water. It's

5:38

a lot of water. So they're firefighters on

5:40

the top floor, say, waiting for the pressure to

5:43

come and then you're just getting out of your floor.

5:45

There's no one waiting. They fire

5:47

it up and they realise, yep, it's all that pressure

5:49

and they start it. So seeing some memory

5:52

from year 12 science of pressure,

5:54

pressure at one end, pressure at the other, because

5:57

of if it's the same diameter of pipe. You

6:00

need a cap, you need warming for the water to push

6:03

against to create the pressure, because the pressure in that

6:05

pipe was nothing. It was

6:07

just getting out. So couldn't they tell straight away though? They

6:09

would turn the machine on and then, well, the test normally

6:11

takes a few seconds because it

6:13

goes flying up there really quickly. And you would

6:15

assume the needle would zoom straight

6:18

into the red if it was capped. And

6:20

they'd be like, yep, that's good pressure. So the needle stayed low. So

6:22

they're going... And again,

6:26

if it was you and I there, we'd

6:28

be like, just gun it a bit more, because we

6:30

can't leave until we see the needle go up. Wherever

6:33

that... There's here at

6:36

the bottom going, is the water on? Water

6:38

on! Are we finishing this? Oh, oh.

6:41

Water on! Guys, give it a bit. They really

6:43

give us some. We would have seen his needle flop. Give

6:45

it a bit. Bex in the house. Right. Oh,

6:48

man. So

6:50

it's these,

6:56

reportedly, a thousand liters a second,

6:58

coming under the

7:00

door, right, flying

7:02

in. The dog doesn't know what's happening. Well,

7:05

now, this is in your apartment now, guys. This

7:08

will happen every day. Bex then

7:10

starts trying to barricade it with towels,

7:12

which is difficult because it's got a quieter

7:14

pressure. Not that the guys downstairs know that their

7:17

pressure is still... This is how something comes in the

7:19

needle to the top. The guys downstairs,

7:21

apparently, have reportedly seawater coming

7:23

out the side of the building in an area vent

7:26

that shouldn't happen. And they went, ugh. I

7:29

wonder if that's anything to do with us. So

7:34

they shut it off, but

7:37

the damage had been done. Yeah.

7:40

You don't need too many seconds at that volume, do

7:42

you? No. So

7:44

Bex confused, runs to the left. We're on the 12th floor.

7:48

Lifts shorted out. Not

7:50

working. Everything's full of water.

7:52

She then gets on the group, what's that, which

7:55

is on for all the other turns, and said, hey, guys,

7:57

I think we're fighting. I think we're flooding.

7:59

Oh, we can't see anything because it hadn't

8:02

quite reached their level yet Because

8:04

it was getting redirected from our level because of Bex

8:06

barricade It then starts

8:09

going through every single about

8:11

through the barricade does protect your house It

8:14

does kick the kick the problem somewhere

8:17

else. Yes, so Bex getting

8:19

alerts almost in credit

8:21

like 11 I

8:23

am seeing it now beautiful

8:26

day down here on the first Woven

8:29

ground floor exactly Right

8:31

building. Yeah, and if I was kind of a primary school

8:33

and used to do stick racing, it would have been exciting Oh,

8:36

yeah, that's yeah But

8:39

yes, every single apartment

8:41

has been affected. Um, SES

8:44

came Taped it off

8:46

said not safe to be inside and that

8:48

was Bex Thursday while I was

8:50

in what were you doing in Sydney? Sunny Sydney

8:53

at that time. I think having a burger Right,

8:56

right That's a nice day So

8:59

can I ask who's the special guest then who are you gonna get

9:01

on the guy the pressure tester? Yeah, you

9:04

were yeah, you wanted to hunt the humans No

9:06

wonder you didn't want to come on I can't

9:08

imagine What the upside

9:10

would have been coming on the show Tell

9:15

us about some of the buildings that you haven't spotted Well

9:19

things look good He was

9:21

happy to come on because he could Beck

9:24

went downstairs when she she

9:26

got out she had to go down the stairs to get out and

9:29

There's there was two guys a bit younger

9:32

quite sheepishly at the bottom having realized

9:34

what had happened and

9:36

They're

9:37

like, oh my gosh. I'm so sorry. It's like hey,

9:39

it's not your fault like because that's the kind of thing Thanks.

9:41

There's yeah, and the guy quick Quick

9:45

as you like goes, can you tell my manager that? I

9:49

Want you to manage to say he said the opposite

9:52

I've known as the cap car meant to put

9:54

the cap on Usually when there's a big flooding

9:56

situation ever you had this yet because we've

9:58

had this happen to our house, too So it

10:01

seems to be like not only is

10:03

it like the disaster

10:05

of everything getting flooded, but someone always likes to talk

10:07

about how cheap the part

10:10

was that could have stopped it all. Like

10:12

someone said to you like, and you know what? Those caps

10:14

are 50 cents. You

10:16

know the little silver flexible, it's

10:19

like woven steel flexible pipe.

10:21

Oh, upon the toilet. On the toilet. We

10:23

had one of those was just too much of an angle,

10:26

too kinked. And then in

10:28

the corner, like it just was too much pressure and it started

10:30

squirting out. Because you can't see it, it was just going

10:34

like for weeks and

10:37

filled up the wall, like filled up the wall

10:39

cavity, just like slowly over days, days, days, weeks,

10:41

like filled up with water until something gives way. And then there's

10:43

like, boom, like water goes through the house.

10:46

Every plumber, like every person wanted to tell you, mate,

10:49

you know how much these are? I know, I know. I

10:51

know. I know. I know.

10:54

I know. I know. I

10:56

know. I know. I know.

10:59

I know. 80 cents. 80 cents

11:01

retails. I get it. So

11:04

it seemed like the young

11:06

apprentice was keen

11:08

to come on and talk about what had happened. It was just upper

11:10

management at this particular company, which I

11:13

won't name in fairness, has

11:16

since got onto us and said, we don't

11:18

find it funny. We're not prepared

11:20

to laugh about it. And we apologize for

11:22

all the damage done to each apartment and all

11:24

their belongings. It seems like a safe stance. It seems like

11:27

a safe stance. But when you said, what are the

11:29

reasons this person would love to come on? I

11:32

feel our show embraces mistakes.

11:34

I mean, it's the reason why Jack's... If

11:36

you and I were those apprentices,

11:39

I mean, yeah, there would have been a heap of finger pointing

11:41

at the other guy. But I could

11:43

literally see that being how we would

11:45

have been on day one. Yeah. Oh,

11:47

yeah. Like,

11:50

let's not forget the prize package

11:52

for coming on the show that you could have got

11:54

through. So if that person

11:56

is listening, I would in

11:59

future. Not next year, we'll be over it

12:01

by then, but the next few weeks, if you do want to come

12:03

on and give us the insight of what was

12:05

going through your brain when the needle wasn't

12:07

hitting the red line and you decided

12:10

just to give it a bit more, I'd love to hear that

12:12

for the horses now. Open

12:15

invite.

12:20

Same, people writing in and wanting to play

12:22

tell us someone we haven't thought of for a while. It's hard

12:25

because... This end of the year is very hard

12:27

because the rules clearly say... We

12:30

can't change the rules, we just inherited them from the Tell

12:32

Us Someone Foundation. It

12:34

has to be somebody that Andy and I haven't

12:36

thought of this year. We must

12:39

produce honest evidence to

12:42

show how, when and why we

12:44

thought of that person, that famous person this year.

12:47

Often people are very unlucky with the

12:49

wild scenarios in which Andy thinks of strange

12:53

and you would think forgotten celebrities

12:55

just yet. But rules

12:58

are rules and I'll stand by Andy

13:00

absolutely to my last breath. So

13:02

if he says it, I believe it. Jaco,

13:06

you've got someone you say for the song.

13:09

This is something we fail

13:11

at quite often, is remembering I have to say

13:14

one during the opening. That's good. So you've

13:16

got one, Jaco? Well, before you do that, Jaco, let me just quickly

13:18

go through the hats. They're on my side. Yeah,

13:20

great. What do we got? What do we got? Hey, this is exciting.

13:22

It's a Sydney Water Hat signed

13:25

by Shane Jacobs. Wow! So...

13:30

Writing wrong. Writing wrong. We

13:33

did for a little bit with

13:35

Shane and Sydney Water under the microscope,

13:37

the ads they were running. But nice to

13:39

see that we're all having a laugh

13:41

about it and they've provided us with some merch.

13:44

Yeah, they said that they've sent in some

13:46

quality hats signed by

13:49

TurnitoffBob himself. I couldn't remember

13:52

his actual character name, Shane's name.

13:54

But I wouldn't say quality. I think

13:57

they've overstretched there. It's certainly not

13:59

the lowest form. No Velcro, of course, they put that

14:01

in brackets, but that's just a plain, very

14:03

plain blue hat, white piping

14:06

on the brim. I don't like that. I know promotional

14:08

hat companies give you the option of changing

14:11

the brim piping, but any time

14:14

you see a different piping on the brim

14:16

of a cap, you know it's promotional

14:19

or a sports team. And I don't think that's what

14:21

people wanna wear day to day. Buckle class

14:23

at the back. Well, we use a buckle on the must-be-nice

14:25

hats, so you certainly won't find

14:28

two men more proud of a buckle than us. No.

14:31

Second one came in from a company called Decked.

14:34

They're like a cool, funky USA

14:36

company. Hey guys. That's

14:39

a good, that's a five piece. We thought we'd send you a hat, so you could

14:41

use it for chit chat champions. Now we don't actually.

14:43

Yeah, who's their Australian PR? Because

14:46

they got so close there. Good, so

14:48

close. Good hat. That,

14:50

I like that hat, that's good. It's kind of a. It's

14:53

a military. Yeah, a top military kind

14:55

of green. It's got the

14:57

same kind of style with a bit of panelling and

14:59

then just a snap back at the back. Probably

15:02

the premier hat I would say with all- Is that

15:04

a quick try material? Yes. And

15:06

you know, with all- You should have to show in

15:08

Jacobson just a better hat. If he'd done this

15:10

one, you know, that would be the best

15:12

of both worlds. Finally, him. Nosferatu.

15:17

Nosferatu, Jim. There

15:20

is some deep cuts on today's hats. Nosferatu,

15:23

Jim, of course, named after my dog. Go

15:27

back and listen, we can't- We don't have that episode

15:29

of the pod, but yes, certainly a

15:31

spot in my heart because Nosse

15:34

absolutely loves it. Can hear

15:37

me opening the Nosferatu Gin bottle

15:40

from rooms away and she'll often

15:42

run in, pop her head on

15:44

my lap, look at me the way only Nosse can. I'll

15:46

go on then, I'll dip my pinky in the gin and let her have

15:48

a little lick. I

15:52

think the best, one of the, yeah,

15:54

another great quality hat. It's the kind

15:56

of that carpet-y, thin carpet-y,

15:59

filthy type- material. It's really

16:01

nice. But maybe because of how it's been

16:03

posted, it's almost got an inverted brim. Yeah.

16:07

It's cupping upwards. Yeah, I'm very

16:09

flat. I've got my key for them. So they're

16:11

the three hats. You don't often

16:13

see the carpet material. No, promotional.

16:16

So there you go. Sydney Ward at Nosferatu

16:18

or the Deck. Haim, Joe

16:21

kicks us off today. But Jack, obviously,

16:23

will do before that, will come in with the opener

16:25

and throw in someone that he hasn't thought of for a while.

16:28

It's been a while since

16:31

I've thought about Yahoo

16:33

serious. Oh, yeah.

16:38

It really feels like you're a kid trying to kick

16:41

against Dustin Martin. Mother's here

16:43

straight away. Why is that so easy? There's

16:45

a movie out about him. Is

16:47

there? Jack Efron. About Yahoo

16:49

serious? I know. That's why I couldn't

16:52

believe it. There's a

16:54

movie out. Actor.

16:57

Oh, sorry. No, I've gone with weird. Young

16:59

bitch. I

17:02

was like, the Australian actor

17:04

from the early 90s hit Young Einstein.

17:07

Jack Efron's playing young. No,

17:10

we're now we think of weird. No,

17:12

sorry. No, unfair

17:15

to this mother. If you need a

17:17

penalty. You haven't thought about

17:19

Yahoo serious for ages. Right. That's

17:22

because I was like, wow, the way Andy's acting.

17:25

I get weird mixes in with Yahoo.

17:29

Differently crazy people. And both hair. That's

17:31

definitely not appearing on the birth certificate. Both first

17:33

names. And long crazy hair with

17:36

wacky guys. Yeah.

17:38

Cross over. No, well done, Jack. That would pass.

17:41

Joe. I mean, I'm just

17:43

processing the fact that in my head, back

17:46

Efron. With starring in a movie.

17:48

Of all the scripts that he could choose, he decided

17:50

that he wanted to lend his voice to

17:53

the Yahoo serious story. To be

17:55

honest, I was surprised that he wanted to do the

17:57

weird. I was like, it's not. big.

18:00

It's not like I've got this wrong. What

18:03

is it? Come in, Mike. Come in, Mike. He

18:05

absolutely explodes outside when there's a factor

18:08

on. It's Daniel

18:10

Radcliffe. That's who it is. It's not Zac

18:12

Efron, it's Daniel Radcliffe. Yeah. Still,

18:14

Mike was telling you to say Daniel Radcliffe

18:16

is a person that Zac Efron is playing in the movie

18:19

and that is a weird person to mix up with. No, Daniel

18:21

Radcliffe, sorry, is playing with

18:23

Al Yankovic. That is so strange

18:26

that I'm intrigued. To

18:28

have Harry Potter playing weird Al, yes, that's

18:31

multi-generational. Weird Al had similar

18:33

glasses. Maybe that's how they cast him. I

18:36

mean Harry Potter had respect

18:38

to Daniel. I reckon

18:40

you've got more to bring to the role. Than

18:43

Zac Efron. No, than

18:45

just weird glasses. Than weird glasses.

18:48

Jeez. What a mess. That

18:51

is a mess. Sorry, I'm sorry. That is several

18:53

people we have heard of. Lizzy, we can

18:55

find someone that we haven't heard before. Sorry,

18:57

Joe. We're all over the shop. Ahoy to you, mate.

19:00

Ahoy, captains and cabin boy,

19:02

Jack. Hello, Joe. Tell

19:05

us about a long intro that was. It was. You're

19:07

telling us. I mean, so sorry. And good

19:10

that you represent the listeners there because everyone's

19:13

thinking it and you got to voice it. Yes, yes,

19:16

yes. I was laughing, but there was a

19:18

lot of stuff that I knew already that you didn't

19:20

really have an idea. I'm

19:23

taking a risk because I'm going

19:26

to name a comedy duo. So that's two

19:28

people that think that Andy

19:30

might have run across in his celebrity shenanigans

19:32

on The 100. But I'm going

19:35

to say scared weird little guys.

19:37

Scaredies.

19:41

I thought of the Umbilical Brothers this year, but I haven't

19:43

thought of the scaredies. I

19:46

think I thought of. It's a tripod. Okay.

19:49

What about bipods? I

19:55

was nearly going to say specifically, John Fleming, the

19:57

tall one from scared weird little guys. Yeah.

20:00

No, that wouldn't have counted because we wouldn't

20:02

have, I don't know if I know their name. Well

20:05

done. Yeah, you got it. Well done. You

20:08

got it. Clear for me. Well done. A

20:11

comedy song, a duo from the, what, late

20:13

1990s? I mean, early 2000s

20:15

are still going really strong. Mid-90s. Mid-90s

20:18

to mid-2000s. I was like, Andy, when

20:20

Andy and I started doing radio,

20:23

we liked to try and do some funny songs and

20:25

we had one of our early bosses say,

20:27

guys, drop the funny songs.

20:30

Unless you're as good as a scared, weird little guy, no

20:32

one wants to hear it. Yeah. So

20:34

it became, we thought about them a lot back in the day because every

20:36

time we thought of a funny song, we'd go, it's either

20:39

as good as the scared, weird little guys. Because that's

20:41

the whole thing. Yeah, they won an ARIA for the best comedy

20:43

release as well, which I mean, you don't have to be anyone

20:45

to do that. So, I'm known. Yeah, I

20:48

think that was before it was very coveted

20:51

in the hard ARIA treatment. After

20:53

that, it became quite a prestigious award. Yeah.

20:56

Joe, which hat, Nosferatu,

20:58

a decked or a Sydney

21:00

water song by Shane Jacobson? I'm definitely

21:03

going to take the Sydney water. Wow. Sydney

21:06

water. Wow. Okay. That

21:09

is a surprise, but Joe, well done. Thank

21:11

you, my friend. From Joe to

21:13

Jim. Hi, Jim. Hi,

21:15

boys. How are we? Yeah, good. Tell

21:17

us someone we haven't thought of for a while. I'm hoping jumping

21:20

Joe to Reema. Good

21:22

one.

21:23

I have,

21:25

I'm afraid.

21:27

Really? Wow.

21:30

Yeah, I was, Steve Hooker

21:32

came up in a conversation the other day and

21:35

he, jumping Jai was named in

21:37

because he was in that same. Are you real? Was

21:40

it the same Olympics or were they just both jumping men

21:42

that represented? Similar

21:44

period of jumping. Similar period of

21:46

jumping. I reckon Steve came after Jai. Jai

21:48

was 2000, wasn't he? Yeah, Jai was 2000.

21:50

But more of a, more of an example of like, here's

21:54

a track or field event that you don't follow

21:56

week to week. Yeah. But certainly when the

21:59

Olympics come around. you're all about it.

22:01

So I have to say in

22:03

full faith that Jumping Jai had been mentioned

22:05

in those comments. Sorry Jim, nice one to put on the mix,

22:07

very unlucky. Clinton, ahoy

22:10

to you. Ahoy Hamish, Andy,

22:12

number six. Ahoy. Clinton,

22:15

who have we not thought of this year? Ah

22:18

Vulcan from the hit show Gladiator is

22:20

bad luck. Yep, no, haven't. What do you mean? Where did you think

22:22

of him? They're bringing gladiators back. Did

22:25

you think of Vulcan? The only person you think of when

22:27

you think of Vulcan?

22:29

Where are they now? Just recently. They've got announced

22:31

probably like eight weeks ago that they are

22:33

actually returning with gladiators. Some

22:36

gladiators. Not the same gladiators, maybe a bit

22:38

old. Not

22:42

as hard to get around me. People

22:46

who don't know the show we're talking about, it was essentially

22:48

you had to combat. Every day

22:50

people would combat just very,

22:52

very muscly people. Combat

22:55

with padded locks and stuff.

22:58

On gym equipment. Yeah. Lots of padded.

23:01

Kind of like wipeout but you had to get past somebody

23:04

as well. That's true, the

23:06

obstacles were human. Clinton, will you watch

23:09

the return of gladiators? Oh

23:11

of course, just to see if they bring back Condor

23:14

or Blaze or… I

23:18

wish you'd said Condor. Yeah, that would

23:20

have been tough for us. Thank

23:22

you very much. Joe, ahoy to you.

23:25

Ahoy lads. Joe, tell

23:27

us something we haven't thought of for a while. Former

23:30

Lord Mayor and all around, goodbye John

23:33

So. From Melbourne. That's

23:36

gotta count, Andrew, because I haven't thought of John

23:38

So. And we do know

23:40

him. I mean, there'd be a lot of people listening that didn't

23:42

know the Lord Mayor of Melbourne but as

23:45

Melbourne boys… Yeah, we didn't know him

23:47

personally. We didn't know him personally but he had

23:49

a knack of getting himself in the papers quite a lot

23:51

for the Lord Mayor. John So

23:53

is my bro I think was the campaign. Joe,

23:58

you've got yourself a… I think he's got it.

24:00

Not for R2, well done. Not for

24:03

R2, or the decked cap. Which one was

24:05

your first? I'll

24:07

go the decked cap. Yeah. Pretty

24:10

smart choice. They're both great caps.

24:12

So you couldn't have gone wrong, mate. Thanks so much for playing. Appreciate

24:15

it. Cheers guys, cheers. Cheers. Good

24:17

work. John. Oh yeah.

24:20

Oh yeah.

24:24

Jack, you're a board gamer. Yes.

24:27

You're a B-gamer. And are you a bit of a B-gamer? Yeah,

24:29

like a board game. Which one's your favorite at the

24:31

moment? We love Everdell. Everdell,

24:34

I've never heard of that. Jack's a board gamer like

24:37

that goes to board game shops. He's

24:39

not a Milton Bradley. No, no, no. Jack's not

24:41

playing Connect Four and Monopoly.

24:44

He's... This is a crowd that

24:46

actually turns their nose up quite heavily at Monopoly.

24:49

Yeah, yeah. And Jack playing settlers of Katarn

24:51

and stuff like that. Even that is a bit

24:54

rudimentary. Oh, too commercial. What

24:56

is that? Well, I like Katarn, but I haven't

24:58

played in years now. What's Everdell? Everdell,

25:02

it's a world building and resource

25:04

building. So similar to Katarn, but you're

25:07

woodland creatures. Okay. And

25:09

you might build the post office in your city, build

25:11

the courthouse in your city, that

25:13

sort of thing. Really? Yeah.

25:16

And what's Katarn? Are you like a Mr.

25:19

Tumnus, woodland creature, Jack? Well, you

25:21

collect actually all your, as many

25:23

woodland creatures as you can to your city. So

25:25

you might have the shop... They're trying to build a best city.

25:28

So this is like when they just rebrand another game, but

25:31

it's woodland creatures instead of humans. No, no,

25:33

no, no, no. I agree, Mr. Andy. Do

25:37

you play this with Bianca? Yes. Less

25:39

now that we've had a son, but it's

25:41

still our favourite when we get some time to ourselves.

25:44

How many hours back before the kid? How

25:46

many hours a week were you collecting woodland

25:49

creatures? Pretty much to, like

25:52

if there's anything that we couldn't decide what

25:54

someone would do, like the dishes or the laundry.

25:57

All right, let's play Everdale to see who does.

25:59

10-hour game should settle it Okay

26:05

45 minutes to an hour yeah like

26:07

a dance laundry would sit there

26:10

and then Yeah, you would

26:12

try so hard. I know you'd be

26:14

trying so hard to get out of those chores For

26:17

Jack that's a fine time trade-off. Yeah, I

26:20

would say I'm the most board game

26:22

I'm not a pro board game Remember

26:26

when Jack's like um you know I don't

26:28

have a lot of time on my hands for the pod to come

26:30

to the meeting No, but the

26:33

thing is we know he's got a lot of time for board games because

26:35

people on chess.com keep writing him out That

26:37

he's spending like 24 hours a week on chair He

26:41

just moved his habit to the dark web. Yeah,

26:44

you're still playing a board game, okay? We all

26:46

need a board game. We all need leisure time in our life.

26:48

We absolutely No

26:52

One is more of a proponent for that than

26:54

us. Yeah, no arguments here. Yeah,

26:56

I Look, I'm

26:59

I'm pro board game I'm into board games,

27:01

but not and probably not to the Jack level But

27:03

I'm always but then I've got like I've

27:06

had a few experiences where you start to play like

27:08

Avalon for people that know it Is basically

27:10

the TV show traders? I'm kind

27:12

of off like that's like kind of mafia or I don't

27:15

have a long grandma Jack and see you don't play

27:17

Love Avalon

27:20

same sort of thing is like good guys and bad guys. You got to

27:22

figure it out Yeah, but you

27:24

know for some reason it's King Arthur themed

27:27

But it has no reason to be right you could

27:29

just be a good guy or bad guy So

27:31

I'm trying to I'm trying to get the the family

27:34

Excited about board games, but I'm gonna bring

27:37

it in at like a six to nine year old level

27:39

and also Zoe has a very low tolerance

27:42

for learning new things right like I I'm

27:45

I'm trying I can't bring in an advanced one like

27:47

woodland 2000 Steep

27:52

learning curves, but then you get rewarded

27:55

once you know the gameplay that's

27:57

not interested in the delayed rewards teach

27:59

me now or I'm not interested. Yeah.

28:02

How's this though? So the other day I, so

28:05

Magic Mike, good friend of the show,

28:07

the show's favorite magician, he is

28:10

also a fan of board games and I was, we were talking about board

28:12

games and he was like, oh, there's a good one called Heard Mentality,

28:15

very easy for the kids. All

28:17

you're going to do is basically everyone gets like a pad

28:19

and you have to write down, so it might be like name a

28:21

famous robot, and then you have to write

28:23

down what you think the most common answer would

28:26

be. Okay. So it's kind of

28:28

like you sort of, I mean it's family feud,

28:30

basically. You're basically trying to get the, I think, pointless.

28:32

So you're trying to write down the most common answer and if

28:34

you're part of the group that said the most common

28:37

answer, you get a point. Okay. So I'm like,

28:39

we can handle that. Like that's a good extended

28:42

family board game. Now

28:44

this is an ad, I suppose in some ways for

28:46

Heard Mentality, but this is where it becomes not an ad. Okay.

28:50

Jack, what is the most, and Andrew,

28:53

what is the most important and

28:56

coveted thing in

28:58

any board game? The

28:59

rules. The pad.

29:02

Oh yeah. The pad that it comes with.

29:04

Like, Scattergrease

29:06

is a big one where it's like, don't waste

29:09

the pad. Oh, don't waste the amount of sheep you got.

29:12

Do not waste the pad. Yeah. Because

29:15

even if you run out of the Scattergrease

29:17

pad, you're never playing Scattergrease again. No

29:20

one's reordering the pad. Like, you know how they go

29:22

in the back, hey, you run out of the pad, go to the website,

29:24

log on, you're like, no one's doing that. You

29:27

are only playing the game for as long

29:29

as the pad lasts. Okay. Like

29:33

the scraps that you end up playing on

29:35

by, everyone's like, double side the pad, double

29:37

side the pad, don't use a fresh page. My dad

29:39

will rule lines and I need to stay

29:41

down, down the middle to split

29:44

the other pad, double the pad. You don't need all that

29:46

space. Don't waste

29:48

the frigging pad. And

29:50

the arrogance, like when you're playing with someone, it's not from

29:52

the household where they just tear off a new page

29:54

of the pad. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

29:57

It's like someone tearing off your grandma's

29:59

plastic. covering on the sofa. You just go, I'll just

30:01

sit on the cushion. Like, you don't do that.

30:04

I opened up Herr Mendelli after

30:07

hyping the game up. No

30:09

pad. What do

30:11

you mean? Like provide your own. No,

30:14

no. They're just the box had been

30:16

packed without one. They just made a mistake at the factory.

30:19

Cause I played it with Mike and

30:21

there's an official pad. Yeah. Oh,

30:23

I hate that. And there was no pad. And I just

30:25

was like, Oh my God, this, you can't

30:28

do this. You can't like,

30:31

I can't, you can't, I can't explain the letdown

30:34

to the people. And then I'm rushing around trying to

30:36

get post this notes and everyone's like, why isn't there

30:38

a pad? It

30:42

just doesn't appear somehow to have been included

30:44

in this sealed box. This is a sealed copy

30:46

of the game. I can't

30:48

vouch this game up. It's really good fun. Let's get into it.

30:50

So it's like post it notes. Well, what are we going to do? Like,

30:53

oh no, oh no. This was going to be

30:55

so easy. I had an idea.

30:58

Off the back of this, right? Would

31:01

we do, would we ever release

31:03

the Hamish and Andy board game? Oh my God. Okay.

31:07

Now it can go one of two ways. We either hand it over

31:09

to Jack for him to start like crafting. No,

31:12

God, no. But here's

31:14

the other thing, whatever it is, whatever it is, and

31:16

it might, it could even just be this, right? But

31:18

we go, if I handed over to Jack thing

31:20

is suddenly you're collecting and doing all these

31:22

things. It could be too late. Yeah. Well,

31:25

that's what I mean. He pitches it back to us. We can like dumb

31:27

it down a bit for the average player, you

31:29

know, cause it could be stuff like, you know,

31:32

an SP competition or whatever, like as

31:34

the chance, like the community chairs or right.

31:38

What if we release Hamish and Andy, the board game

31:40

and you open it up and it's just a selection

31:43

of multi-use pads for other games.

31:49

There is almost no game, but it's an excuse

31:52

to get a box of backup pads in your

31:54

house that would fit

31:56

most games that require writing

31:59

down an answer. So by buying

32:01

someone the hand in... Yeah, because

32:03

he said it's almost not a game, but it's not

32:05

a game. It's not a game. Certainly not.

32:08

Oh, we include a very, very small

32:10

token game. Of

32:12

course it's a game. But mostly,

32:14

yeah, yeah, there's like two

32:16

small cups in a ball. See

32:19

if you can move the ball from cup

32:21

to cup. Congratulations, you've finished the game. Now

32:23

please enjoy the pads. My

32:25

worry is that we're saying no one will

32:28

replace the pad, which you can just do off the back

32:30

of a board game. But you wouldn't

32:33

do that for one pad that you might buy. Can

32:35

you imagine someone's delight if you got given for

32:37

Christmas, you open up a box and you're like, oh my God, it's backup

32:39

pads. Yeah, but you've got to match your games.

32:42

But we make them like generic enough

32:45

pads. So there's big ones, small ones, little...

32:48

Every game has its own scoring column. Exactly,

32:50

pick the eight most popular formats and

32:53

we do a selection of pads. So you get

32:55

in a box full of backup pads. I

32:58

feel like it's a stationary replenishment.

33:00

We're offering. We

33:03

are. Nice, guys, there's a board game. That's exciting.

33:06

Stationary replenishment. All right, what about this?

33:09

Fine, fine, fine. I did like that idea very well.

33:11

We go back to the original idea and we make Hamish and Ed the

33:13

board game. But if

33:16

there's pads involved, it's

33:18

huge. I'm not doing this unless

33:21

you get more pads in our game

33:23

than any other board game on the market.

33:26

No, no, there'll be a pad surface for you. Like a wafer thin board

33:28

and the whole thing's pads. That's

33:34

our competitive advantage. And whatever the gameplay is,

33:36

Jack, you're in charge of coming up with some ideas to make

33:38

it good. I would love that. But what

33:40

I bring to the table is we promise you will

33:42

never have the feeling of running out of the

33:45

paper. That's our edge. Time to close out today.

33:52

We talked about it last week and we've probably

33:54

been avoiding talking about it again

33:56

because we're at a loss, aren't we? Oh, yeah. We're

33:59

at a loss. And no one expected this,

34:01

this spanner in the works to be thrown. No one expected

34:04

this fake

34:06

chicken to be thrown amongst the crocodiles. Confusing

34:09

if you're a crocodile and a fake chicken gets thrown in. Yes. What is

34:11

this? Well, isn't that what we're used to? The

34:13

croc tours for the croc wars that are happening in

34:15

the north were happening in Darwin.

34:18

We've been following all year. Original croc

34:21

jumping tours, spectacular croc jumping tours. As you

34:23

probably heard on last week's show, to the vast

34:25

majority of people that are listening in order, out

34:28

of nowhere and unrelated to us for

34:31

their own reasons, the original

34:34

croc jumping tours has decided

34:36

to close down. After 38 years

34:38

of operation, they're shutting

34:40

on October the 31st. Why

34:43

is this relevant to us? Well, as you also might have

34:45

heard, we booked flights

34:47

to Darwin and we've taken

34:49

the whole team up. And again, this isn't

34:52

top priority, but it is a factor. We've

34:54

booked a Sunset Jadski crew. We're

34:56

interested in booking one. And just a bunch

34:58

of other fun stuff in Darwin we're excited to do.

35:01

Anyway, that's not the priority. Just mention

35:04

it because it's something to think about. Anyway,

35:07

we're off on a peace mission to

35:09

bring these two warring companies together.

35:11

This is the main focus. That

35:13

was the main focus. Another the silliness. Come on, guys. It's

35:16

been decades of hijinks, but now let's

35:18

all... Wouldn't this be fun? And the peace process

35:20

was looking good. We're going to sit down and

35:23

put the feuding aside, look at

35:25

working together in the future and hopefully

35:27

exchange one compliment per side. That

35:30

now...

35:31

Well, you

35:32

know, life doesn't work out the way you planned.

35:34

No one was expecting Tony to shut down original

35:37

crocs jumping tours entirely because of a dispute

35:39

he's having with the government and some

35:41

demands they haven't met. Looks

35:44

like that's happening. Looks like that's the situation and

35:46

we've had to think about it. And

35:48

we're still going to go up. Back

35:52

on his peculiar. And

35:55

what we'll do up there, we don't know. Will

35:58

we, Tyler? We'll be out

36:00

of crowbar some kind of peace talk and

36:03

claim a triumph probably Crowbar

36:06

though and it let me ask you this. Okay

36:09

If we go like just like just

36:12

answer yes or no to this Hamish

36:14

and Andy and Jack went to Darwin

36:17

where for decades there has been a rivalry

36:20

between two small businesses those hijinks

36:23

there was some tricks played on each other and Just

36:27

a general air of rivalry Yes,

36:29

so much so that one wouldn't go one side of the bridge

36:31

one wouldn't get the other side of the bridge Yes, when I was

36:33

Andy and Jack came home that was all over

36:37

It was never a shenanigans with tricks played

36:39

ever again. And there was peace. That's

36:41

great That's that'll be the headline and

36:43

that that begins the spin because

36:46

I also think the timing on this

36:48

couldn't be worse What when we scheduled to go like the weekend

36:50

of the fourth? Yeah So

36:53

we're scheduled to go that weekend to Darwin Tony's

36:56

come out and gone. I'm closing the business Nothing

36:59

to do with us, but boy, oh boy the timing it

37:02

couldn't be worse You can be Dean Tony if we

37:04

had been there a week earlier Like we can't

37:06

go because we got stuff on with families and stuff.

37:08

We'd have gone a week earlier Yes, we

37:10

could have got the peace deal. Yes, and

37:12

then he could call absolute buzzer beater Yes,

37:15

just be like do you agree to peace between the businesses? He'd

37:17

be like yeah, man. I'm closing on Sunday Okay,

37:20

but for the next do you agree? Yes, we

37:22

didn't make the four days or whatever. Yeah,

37:24

please. Yeah, sure Have you put a fish? No

37:27

worries. Let's still try and meet Tony. Okay, so

37:29

here's what I'm proposing Okay, like

37:31

what's for in the grand scheme of 38 years?

37:34

What's four days? Yep. I mean, I

37:37

still think we get a plaque made up back data

37:40

I had a bad idea. That's a good

37:42

idea. And then you know what it's sort of like It's

37:48

like when a

37:50

great player

37:51

Retires after a grand final

37:53

so we can say that we broke at peace we won

37:55

and then Tony retired. Yeah that same

37:58

day

37:58

Yeah, so you

37:59

You reckon we back day it to the 31st? We

38:04

just get it written on the plaque. Like it's all in, you

38:06

know, it's in bronze. Put a few years water

38:08

under the bridge. No one's going to totally sign

38:11

it. And once it's plaque. Why don't we timestamp

38:13

our chats with him as well? Like, okay, nice

38:15

to meet you, Tony, here on the 30th. So

38:19

we, so we fly up. We

38:21

meet, even though we're meeting on the 4th of November, we,

38:24

um, essentially re-enact because

38:26

just due to scheduling, we couldn't be there all week

38:29

early. But we basically go, look, had we been here a week

38:31

early? We'd have been here for the same conversation.

38:34

Do you agree if it was a week earlier, you would have peace?

38:37

Yeah.

38:37

Hopefully. Yeah, absolutely.

38:40

This was one week ago. Our attitudes would be the same

38:42

and you'd both have two open businesses that could make

38:44

peace. Yep. Compliment, compliment. Photograph.

38:48

Photograph the crocodile wearing my toothpick

38:51

with subject.

38:53

Yeah. Flying.

38:56

Great. Find Darwin to re-enact

38:58

the backdated peace accord while

39:01

the two businesses were still open. Now, do

39:03

we put it on the, do we put it,

39:06

how do we put it on the plaque? Do we go on this

39:08

day, the 31st of October, or do we,

39:10

why don't we back that exactly a week from

39:12

when we're there? So we

39:14

go on this day, 29th of October, 2023 peace.

39:21

What about, how about this? Achievable. How about it?

39:23

That's true. Why don't we do a not lying where we don't

39:25

go peace was achieved. We just go peace.

39:28

You know, the concept of peace would, I can't. It's

39:35

a brain job. I'm trying to just avoid getting back

39:37

to us. Why

39:39

don't we get a text message to Tony and

39:42

a text message to Wes saying, yep,

39:44

for peace on the 31st. If

39:47

they both write back, yes. We

39:49

can say on the 31st, it was agreed that peace.

39:56

In fact, we just go on this and we

39:58

make the plot. Why don't we do that? A week before we

40:00

go, we make the plaque that day.

40:03

Yes. So we're obviously making

40:05

the plaque in Melbourne. Yes. But we have

40:07

to, you don't say that on the plaque. No. On

40:10

this day, the 28th of October,

40:13

it was agreed by the two parties that

40:16

peace would rain between the two businesses.

40:18

For however long the businesses may go. Yeah.

40:22

Right.

40:23

Then we take the plaque that's made and you plunk

40:25

it in the, you plunk it in the spot up there and

40:27

everything's true. You just weren't actually

40:30

there on the day. You don't need to write on the plaque,

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you know, due to scheduling conflicts, we couldn't actually

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be there on the day. No. No. No. No one needs that

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detail on the plaque. Yeah,

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great. You can do the headline. Yeah.

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Yeah. So we actually forged the

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plaque on the weekend

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before. Yes. And we have them

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on the line and then just go and reenact the day.

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What we would have said at the time, what we would have

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heard at the time. And I think that's very,

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very honest. I think

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that's not as dishonest as is possible. Yeah.

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That's still a pay steal. Absolutely. And

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that's not a pay to route, which is the most important.