0:01

So did you test? I

0:03

did. It was negative. So

0:05

not COVID, I guess, just to cold.

0:08

That's good. Seriously, I thought, oh my god,

0:10

that work party and

0:12

it's been COVID at the work party. I

0:15

know. But I did -- Okay. --

0:17

something else.

0:20

Oh, pew. Hi,

0:24

and welcome to Happier in Hollywood the podcast

0:27

about how to be. Happier, healthier, Sainer,

0:29

more creative, more successful, and more productive

0:31

in a back fighting superficial, chaotic,

0:33

unpredictable, fundamentally insane

0:36

world. I'm Sarah Fain, a

0:38

TV writer, and produce are living in OHAI

0:40

right outside of LA. And with me is my

0:42

high school friend and writing partner Liz.

0:45

That's me, Liz Craft. On this podcast,

0:47

we talk about being writers in Hollywood, how

0:49

we balance a career and friendship, and

0:51

how to survive the war of attrition on

0:53

its life in Los Angeles. In today's

0:56

episode, we're going to us why

0:58

you should share your expertise.

1:00

Then we have a special guest, Fantasy

1:03

Island Composer, Genevieve Vincent,

1:05

is going to talk about how she's given the

1:07

show its musical identity. And

1:10

finally, this week's Hollywood hack is a

1:12

gift idea in inspired by our

1:14

former assistant, Lauren, she gave

1:16

us a very personal and wonderful

1:18

wrap gift that we enjoy every

1:21

single day. Yes. But, Sarah, first,

1:23

we have an update. Well, one, I

1:25

am have a cold, which you can probably

1:27

hear in my voice. So apologies. to

1:30

everyone for my voice today. But

1:32

it's not COVID. I took a test, but

1:34

it's a bad cold. And then,

1:36

Sarah, Hollywood hack at episode

1:38

two eighty two was friction erasable

1:41

pens, which you've been using and Violet's

1:43

been using. Well,

1:45

our listener, Katie, wrote in to let

1:47

us know that you can get refills for

1:49

them, so they're also environmentally friendly.

1:52

which is amazing. You know, we're all trying

1:54

to be a little kinder on the earth

1:56

and having refills in these pens that I love

1:58

and use all the time.

1:59

It's definitely going

2:02

to save some plastic. And then Katie

2:04

also suggested, Sarah, that

2:06

we get white leather nikes embossed

2:08

with scally print for our fancy

2:11

sneakers. Remember we were talking about

2:13

wanting to get sneakers to wear

2:15

to events and she points

2:17

out that these are cool

2:20

and they let us bring our iguana

2:22

Talisman with us to work events

2:24

because they have this scaly pattern. Yes.

2:27

This is such an insightful idea.

2:29

You know, we love pairing, and this is

2:31

like pairing our pristine party sneakers

2:33

with our work Talisman. So that's

2:36

Amazing. Thank you, Katie. Okay.

2:38

It is time for from the treadmill desk

2:40

of in which we discuss what's most pressing

2:42

in our work psychies. And this week, it's

2:45

share your expertise? Yes.

2:48

We were guests this week

2:50

at the showrunner training

2:52

program that Sony does, and

2:54

it's run by the wonderful Jeffrey

2:56

Glaser, who's an executive. I mean, we have known

2:58

him probably like,

3:01

since one of our very first jobs. Yeah.

3:04

We've known him forever. And

3:07

now he's at Sony and he runs this program

3:09

among many other things. And

3:11

he was like, can you do this panel

3:13

on staffing a show?

3:16

Well, I mean, we love staffing shows, and

3:18

we love talking about staffing shows. So we were

3:20

like, of course, we can. Well

3:22

and first of all, it's just nice. It was a Zoom

3:25

thing, obviously. It's just nice to see

3:27

a lot of faces on

3:29

your screen of people who are,

3:32

like, on the verge of running

3:34

shows and who are still so excited

3:36

about it. I mean, we are too also honestly.

3:38

And who are who really want

3:41

to be, like, the best show runners they can

3:43

be. And what we realized is that

3:45

in sort of talking about our thoughts

3:47

on staffing, it really helped

3:50

us crystallize our

3:52

opinions. Like, there's nothing like talking

3:54

about something to make

3:56

you think about it and reflect upon it

3:58

and sort of hone your opinions. Yes.

4:01

And we've talked about how that's

4:03

part of why we like to do this podcast. Yeah.

4:05

Like, it makes us more introspective.

4:07

It makes us more thoughtful. about

4:09

how we approach our jobs. And

4:12

having this opportunity to kind of share

4:14

our expertise about staffing shows,

4:16

let us do that on that topic.

4:19

And we think we're quite good at staffing

4:21

shows. We have pulled together some really wonderful

4:24

staffs So it was nice

4:26

to, like, also reflect on that and be, like,

4:28

why this person? Why that person? What

4:30

about that dynamic? Yeah. The other thing

4:33

Sarah that I thought was interesting is that

4:35

it also makes you more aware of

4:37

what you need to work on when you share

4:39

your expertise. Yes. because

4:41

we had questions about how we deal

4:43

with a writer when it's not going

4:45

well. And as I was

4:47

trying to address that question, I

4:49

kind of realized that's not as strong suit.

4:51

I mean, it certainly isn't for me.

4:53

I think you might agree with that.

4:55

Well, I mean, I have a two part response

4:57

to that, which is I do agree.

5:01

But I also think

5:03

that because

5:06

we have in general hired very

5:08

well. Yes. We have avoided

5:10

some of the really bad situations

5:12

that other people have to deal with. That

5:14

is very true. we

5:16

just haven't had a horrible situation

5:18

that we had to

5:20

sit someone down and and have

5:22

that direct

5:23

conversation about you know,

5:25

a particular issue. Yes. But I do

5:27

think there are times when you feel like someone

5:29

could be giving more, offering, more

5:32

or they're slightly off in in their

5:34

direction. And I do think it

5:36

would be valuable for us to have

5:39

those really specific direct

5:41

conversations -- Yes. -- and I think

5:43

we tend to not

5:45

wanna have that conversation instead

5:48

try to guide them more indirectly.

5:51

Yeah. And as I was talking

5:53

about it, I was thinking I really

5:55

wanna work on that. So I'm gonna

5:57

resolve to work on this.

5:59

next

5:59

time we're in season on something.

6:02

Hopefully, family style it.

6:03

We are the masters of guiding indirectly.

6:08

We will try to guide more directly.

6:11

Yes. Exactly. And then, of

6:13

course, it's important to share your expertise

6:15

because people really do benefit from

6:17

it. I mean, we have benefited so

6:19

much from other people's expertise. We

6:22

went when we were just running

6:24

women's murder club, our first show,

6:26

we went to the showrunner training program

6:28

that the WGA had just started

6:30

at that point. Yeah. And it was

6:33

tremendously helpful. Yes.

6:35

It really was. It it made

6:37

it so much easier to step into

6:39

a job that we had never had before

6:41

that is really a massive job.

6:44

we really feel the responsibility

6:48

to train people. So

6:50

many people now are being thrown into

6:52

the showrunner position with out a

6:54

tremendous amount of experience. So if we

6:56

can help people be

6:58

more ready for that, we a hundred

7:00

percent wanna do that. Yes. not

7:02

just for them, but for the people who work for them.

7:04

Yes. So the job that has many

7:06

components and the only

7:08

way to learn is to

7:10

either do it or have someone who

7:12

has done it talk to about it. Yeah.

7:14

So anyway, very glad we were included

7:16

in that. and we learned

7:18

from it as well. Coming up, Liz, we're

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Okay,

8:39

Liz. It's time for our Hollywood Jobs

8:42

segment. and today we're talking

8:44

to Genevieve Vincent, our amazing

8:46

composer on Fantasy Island. Genevieve

8:48

is an award winning Canadian composer,

8:51

songwriter, and music producer based

8:53

in Los Angeles. Her scores

8:55

include Sony Tri Stars

8:57

critically acclaimed Ramcom The Broken Hearts

8:59

Gallery for which she won a BMI

9:01

Award. the Apple TV plus

9:03

docu series Gutsey executive

9:05

produced by Hilary and Chelsea Clinton

9:07

and HBO Maxes, what

9:09

happened Britney Murphy? And of course,

9:11

she's currently our wonderful composer on

9:13

Fantasy Island. In addition to her

9:15

scoring, Genevieve is half of the electronic

9:18

duo Dark Dark signed

9:20

to network music group, and she's

9:22

a super cool person. She

9:24

is. Genevieve, thanks for joining us

9:26

today. Well, goam. Thanks for having

9:28

me. We're so excited to talk to you about

9:30

composing because it's the most

9:32

mysterious of all

9:34

of the elements of showmaking too.

9:37

And it's so

9:39

important. It can say

9:41

about episode of TV, which hopefully

9:43

we don't make any of those, Sarah.

9:45

But if we did, a a

9:47

bad episode of TV can be saved

9:50

by a great composer. It's

9:52

true. So, Genevieve, can you just

9:54

explain the process

9:57

for our listeners? Yeah.

9:59

Absolutely. So it starts

10:01

out with a spotting session, and

10:03

that's where I mean, all spotting

10:05

sessions are different. But on our show,

10:07

we have the executives. We

10:09

have the show runners. Oh

10:11

my god. My dog is trying to break into my

10:13

studio. We have

10:15

our dogs. We have

10:18

music supervisor. We have music editors.

10:20

We have often an editor.

10:23

Sometimes we have a surprise

10:25

writer or other

10:27

member of production.

10:29

And so basically, the spotting session

10:31

starts out where people are essentially we're

10:33

going through the episode. scene

10:36

by scene. And we're discussing,

10:38

well, I'm basically getting my marching orders.

10:40

I'm basically being told like, hey,

10:42

this episode this is the sort of

10:44

vibe of it at first.

10:46

And then, you know, we start to go through

10:48

scene by scene and talk about the

10:50

music in this scene should be, like,

10:52

fun and upbeat or the music in this scene should

10:54

be like more serious and sad

10:57

or, you know, we have specific ideas

10:59

or we actually don't have any specific ideas

11:02

like do you have ideas? So

11:04

we start out with, like, this big conversation at

11:06

the beginning of each episode. I don't know if

11:08

I should get into more detail than that, but that's

11:11

kind of That's

11:13

great. And then from there, the music

11:15

editors, and we have some really good

11:17

ones on Fantasy Island,

11:19

McDee, they're taking really detailed notes.

11:21

I'm taking really detailed notes. Music

11:23

supervisor Melanie Mitchell is taking really detailed

11:25

notes. So we basically

11:28

come out of that with this

11:30

spreadsheet of super detailed

11:32

notes on what everyone said and

11:34

kind of like a gen and then our own notes.

11:36

about what we think it means. And

11:39

then and then

11:41

I basically take that as like

11:43

a blueprint for my

11:45

work for the week. And usually,

11:47

I mean, we our timelines

11:50

vary. It can be anything from, like, you know,

11:52

four days to ten days to just

11:54

really depends. But I basically use

11:56

that as my bible. So I, like, I'll

11:58

go act seen by seeing and act

12:00

by act and I will just knock

12:02

out as much music as I can sort

12:04

of per day. I have an idea of

12:06

how much music I have to get through

12:08

per day. this is all just very technical

12:10

because the creative side is definitely a

12:12

part of it. But the first thing I

12:14

think the first thing I think about is kind

12:16

of logistics. because I kind of have to,

12:18

like, produce myself once

12:20

I get the the sort of direction.

12:22

Yeah. So I sort of lay that

12:25

Yeah. Well, that goes to a question we have, which

12:27

is so obviously, I mean, you,

12:29

season one, worked under the most

12:32

intense deadline I mean,

12:35

the only people at worst deadlines

12:37

in us were you, I think.

12:39

Yes. And my

12:41

question is somehow you managed to do that and

12:43

make the music great. But is

12:45

it easier, like, was season

12:47

two easier because you had

12:49

the sound of the

12:51

show. And also, I'm curious creatively

12:53

how would you describe our sound?

12:55

because I don't know if I know how to describe

12:57

it. Yeah. It's funny. I think the

12:59

first season First of all, it's, like, probably

13:01

the most fun thing anyone could ever

13:03

score because every episode is

13:05

completely different. So you're, like, alright. Oh,

13:07

I get to write like a Victorian music.

13:09

Oh, I get to write Regaton

13:11

and Jason, you know, Island

13:13

sort of jazzy. I mean, It

13:15

really picks from all genres, and

13:17

I think that's what makes it so fun

13:20

and so unique. And

13:22

so I would just say it's like really genre

13:24

blending. But with

13:26

an overarching sort

13:28

of sound that's really contemporary,

13:31

and I think kinda sits

13:33

in the pop scope. So

13:35

even when we're kinda going, like,

13:37

Victorian or More

13:40

Island and I won't speak to any of the themes

13:42

in season two, I don't think I'm

13:44

allowed. We're still

13:46

sort of staying in that, like, contemporary

13:48

pop adjacent. world.

13:50

And, Genevieve, one of the things we

13:52

love that you've done is use the

13:54

original Fantasy Island theme,

13:56

but recreate it in a really current

13:58

way and then, like,

13:59

right find

14:01

different ways emotionally

14:03

to use it in your score.

14:05

Can you talk about that a little bit? Yeah.

14:07

For sure. So I think the first

14:09

time we really explored that was in the

14:11

it was kind of in the, like, pitching phase.

14:14

and that was doing the main title

14:16

theme. And I think

14:18

the the the challenge was to sort

14:20

of make it sound modern and fun and

14:22

cool and and you know, the

14:24

original reference is so sort of like

14:26

orchestral and cinematic.

14:29

So what I did was kind of

14:31

extract the primary

14:33

part of the melody. And then

14:36

I did something. This is a little doorky,

14:38

but, you know, we're gonna get technical

14:40

as I re harmonized it. So

14:42

I basically changed the harmonic context

14:44

of the melody and

14:47

it's kind of like changing all the colors

14:49

of it or something. Like, the

14:51

structure stays the same,

14:53

but all the colors are

14:55

different. So it changes tone.

14:57

and I do that in various

15:00

ways. With the main title, I

15:02

basically did like kind of a

15:04

island sounding pop track with,

15:07

like, a complimentary harmony that

15:10

let the melody, you know,

15:12

shine, actually saying the melody Can

15:14

you sing it? Can you or humming

15:16

right now? Yeah.

15:22

I love it.

15:25

I get chills every time. So

15:28

basically, like, sometimes we have, you

15:30

know, we always have different moods that know,

15:32

you wanna bring the theme in for. And

15:34

I think the theme became really

15:36

the island sound. Right?

15:38

And so whenever, you know,

15:40

the island is speaking in in in

15:42

certain ways, like,

15:44

we wanna bring that back and we

15:46

also bring it back for

15:48

Rourke. when she's

15:50

having moments. And so

15:52

if it's a tense moment

15:54

and we color it with minor

15:56

stuff. We, you know, color it with

15:59

yeah. It gets very nebulous.

16:02

Like the way I think about music,

16:04

is probably really weird, but

16:06

everybody thinks about it differently. I

16:08

think it's just kind of like

16:10

creating when you're

16:12

making that new environment for the melody,

16:14

you're pulling from all the other aspects of

16:16

the scene. And so, like, for

16:19

example, if it's like Rourke with

16:21

Ruby, and then

16:22

they're having a conversation

16:25

about

16:25

sending tense. I'm trying to

16:28

bring in sonic reminders

16:30

of Ruby, I'm, like,

16:32

bringing in, like, the sound of

16:34

tension and I'm, like,

16:36

using those tools that we

16:38

established in season

16:40

one. to reframe

16:43

the

16:43

theme for, like, that work

16:45

conversation. So we're bringing the the

16:47

main theme in again and now it

16:49

sounds completely different. Right. And one of the things

16:51

you do that I love and

16:53

find very mysterious is

16:56

you create a theme for each

16:58

character. So we have sort of the

17:00

Fantasy Island theme, which is the island

17:02

and also a, like, a little of work in there.

17:04

But then, like, Ruby will have

17:06

her own music cool theme and

17:09

Mel and Ruby. Mhmm. Mel and Ruby

17:11

have a musical theme. Javier has

17:13

a musical theme. everyone, and then you

17:15

kind of weave them together in

17:18

this magical way. Yeah. It's really

17:20

fun. It's sort of like doing medleys.

17:23

Mhmm. You know?

17:23

Or like there's lot of, like,

17:26

medleys in in the score. There's a lot of,

17:28

like, canons that

17:30

happen to do that. And

17:32

in season one, like, that

17:34

was so I mean, it was

17:36

wild, but, like, it was my

17:38

baby. Like, I was like, there is

17:40

no way I am dropping the

17:42

ball in this. I was like, whatever

17:44

it takes, I think I just I knew, you know, what

17:46

a big opportunity it was, and I was just

17:48

like, you know

17:49

what? I'm gonna just make this happen,

17:51

and I don't know how, but we're gonna do

17:54

it. So And you did and the

17:56

black is Yeah. That's probably how.

17:58

Mhmm. And the music is just so

18:00

perfect for it. And then sometimes

18:02

when we're spotting or talking

18:04

about notes or something, you'll say, oh, maybe

18:06

we can, you know, put a little of

18:09

you know, this instrument here, and that'll

18:11

get what you want. So are there

18:13

particular instruments you use a lot

18:15

on the show that elicit certain emotions

18:18

I use I kind of have what I call

18:20

the Fantasy Island band. So

18:22

I have I I

18:25

use several, like, players

18:27

quite

18:27

a lot in the season.

18:29

A wedwin player by the name

18:31

of Gina Luciani who she basically

18:34

plays everything. She

18:36

plays every single one one you could possibly imagine.

18:39

So it's really nice because like

18:41

she'll play the Aquarina, which

18:43

I think a carina, it's

18:45

so weird, but it has that sort of

18:47

other worldly quality to

18:49

it. And that's just

18:51

I think the cool thing about it

18:53

about, you know, the island, and

18:55

I remember you telling me this, you

18:57

know, probably when we first

19:00

started chatting about the show is

19:02

that it never should feel like any

19:04

particular place because the island is a

19:06

magical place. Yes. So that's

19:08

very freeing, you know. Then I get to pull

19:10

in a lot of instruments of

19:12

different backgrounds and

19:14

places and incorporate

19:15

them. My big question for you

19:17

to leave is, how

19:20

do you as a

19:22

music person manage

19:25

to handle notes

19:27

from people like us who

19:29

are not music people. Like, I often feel

19:31

like we we're not even speaking

19:34

the right language. When

19:36

we talk about music and yet

19:38

somehow you're able to

19:40

translate it and how do you

19:42

approach that? I feel like

19:44

it's, like, emotional synesthesia, to

19:46

be honest, like, Maybe

19:49

we just develop that, like, composers,

19:51

like, over a while of

19:53

doing it, but, like, I was

19:55

thinking about this too when I was thinking

19:57

about coming on the podcast. because I

19:59

thought that might be a question that would

20:02

come up. I think

20:04

what I love about the way that you

20:06

two communicate with me specifically

20:09

is often you just go deeper with

20:11

the character. Like, you're like,

20:13

no. Like, what she's really feeling is this.

20:15

And then -- Mhmm. -- it's coming

20:17

from this place and you kind of

20:20

like go deeper with, like, the scene and

20:22

the character and, like, at first, if

20:24

I'm like, is it this? And you're like, so not really

20:26

that. It's like, here's

20:28

the background. It's like you give me background on,

20:31

you know, what's going on for them and,

20:33

you know, I almost feel like an actor or

20:35

something, so you're like giving me, like,

20:38

some backstory. Yeah. And

20:40

I feel like when I get that,

20:42

I sort of just

20:45

emotionally like, no, okay. I

20:47

need dial this sound

20:49

in. Like, I'll dial the

20:51

emotion, the chords, the

20:53

sound of that in just based

20:55

on, like, what that means to

20:57

me. So it is

20:57

a bit nebulous. Yes. So

21:00

it's funny because I feel

21:02

like the vast majority

21:04

of our emails to you end

21:06

with Does that make

21:07

sense? Yeah.

21:10

Totally. And then if you

21:12

respond, you're like, yep. Got it.

21:14

But I'm like, I know how, but Yeah.

21:16

I know

21:17

it does. It so

21:19

does, though. Yeah. I

21:21

think actually harder. Sometimes some people say I

21:23

love piano or they really fixate on a

21:26

musical thing. You're sort of

21:28

like, that's great. But, like, what are you

21:30

trying to accomplish with

21:32

that? Yes. Yeah. So

21:34

sometimes that can actually throw you away off if

21:36

someone's like, I love piano and

21:38

you're like, this and they're like -- Yeah. -- no.

21:40

That's what I was thinking. Lots of

21:42

things. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Well,

21:44

GeniVie, if you definitely contribute

21:46

to the magic a fantasy

21:48

island that we could not do this without you.

21:50

So thank you for that

21:53

and

21:53

for taking our non musician

21:56

notes.

21:56

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21:58

them

21:58

so beautifully

21:59

every episode. Yes. And we cannot

22:02

wait for people to hear what you've done

22:04

in season two because it's

22:06

just so great. And you, like,

22:08

you wrote original songs. There's just

22:10

so much money that's left.

22:12

You wrote some great songs.

22:15

Anyone who wants to right now go

22:17

listen. Fantasy Island is on Hulu

22:19

season one. So you can go listen to all these

22:21

things that we've been

22:21

talking about and enjoy the show

22:24

and interviews. beautiful score. Yes.

22:26

And we will put in our show notes where you can

22:27

find her on social media as

22:30

well. Genevieve, thanks so much for

22:32

joining us. Thanks, Liz and Sarah.

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Okay. It

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is time for this week's

24:17

Hollywood hack. which is

24:19

create personalized art

24:21

as a gift. Yeah. Kind of a big

24:24

idea. But our wonderful assistant

24:27

on Fantasy Island, Lauren

24:29

Conescenty, did this for

24:31

us as a wrap gift.

24:33

And it was such a surprise and

24:35

it was so lovely and

24:37

we get so much joy out of it we

24:39

wanted to share. Yes.

24:41

So Lauren, part

24:43

of the this hack is

24:45

knowing someone who can do this for you. But we're

24:47

gonna tell you who did it for Lauren, and you

24:49

can contact that person who

24:51

is amazing. So Lauren had

24:53

this personalized art

24:55

made up for us and framed

24:58

it and it's Absolutely wonderful.

25:00

So what it is is a representation of

25:03

Fantasy Island season two.

25:06

So it's Me and Liz in the

25:08

fantasy island plane, which is

25:10

obviously so iconic. On

25:12

on either side, It

25:14

has COVID swabs since all we

25:17

do all day long. It seems like it's test for

25:19

COVID when we're on set. It

25:21

has the dock. It has

25:24

turtles because we had to, like, change a lot

25:26

of shooting because of protecting endangered

25:29

turtles who were hatching on the

25:31

beaches. It has

25:33

palm trees. It has pealcons because one

25:35

of our favorite things to do in

25:37

Puerto Rico is watch the pealcons like

25:39

dive bomb for fish. And

25:41

then some things that would be spoilers if we mentioned them, so we

25:43

won't. Yes. And it says we survived

25:46

fantasy island season

25:48

two, and it is just it

25:50

brings me so much joy. It really does.

25:53

And Lauren, I mean, this was her

25:56

brain wave and she, of course,

25:58

provided the artist with

26:00

these details who then put it

26:02

all together. And we should

26:04

mention, Sarah, so the

26:06

artist who did this. She's also a DP.

26:08

Yes. Her name is Nana Karusannu,

26:11

and she, I believe,

26:13

is in New York. But

26:15

for people who would like to hire her,

26:17

they can DM her on Instagram

26:19

at nana is cool. So that's

26:22

at N0NAISC00L

26:25

And then we're also in the show

26:27

notes, we're gonna link to her website if someone

26:29

would like to look at it. Yes. And we'll

26:31

post a picture of

26:34

Nana's amazing art, but we'll have

26:36

to put, like, little circles over the

26:38

things that are spoils or something. That's

26:41

right. Yeah. And, Sarah, just it's so

26:43

great because, you know, so many

26:45

gifts they're nice in the moment, but they

26:47

come and go. This is something that

26:49

we will truly keep forever,

26:51

I'm guessing. Yes. No. My Violet's

26:54

children will be like, What was this about

26:56

fantasy island season two? Exactly.

26:58

And what's funny is we love

27:00

Swag. Show Swag. Yes.

27:02

you know, I cannot get enough. I'm always

27:04

decked out and wearing a show swag, but

27:07

that's just like a hat that says Fantasy

27:09

Island season two. But it's not the same

27:11

as this, which has all these little

27:13

details, which we might forget

27:15

in five years. Yeah. But as soon as

27:17

we, like, look at those swabs on

27:20

this, will remember, oh my gosh, that was the

27:22

time of COVID, and this happened, and that

27:24

happened, and we had to shut down.

27:26

And and the tunnels will

27:28

remember mark our line producer

27:31

informing us that we had to change all of this

27:33

night shooting because we have to

27:35

protect the turtles and So

27:37

it's just really like a special thing. And I

27:40

think you can do this in an affordable

27:42

way because there's a lot of people

27:44

out there Nana and

27:46

others who this might be their side

27:48

hustle or they're just starting

27:50

out, so it doesn't have to break

27:52

the bay. Yes. Although, I will say, I

27:54

think Nana is particularly skilled at this

27:56

because it's really -- Agree. --

27:58

wonderful. Agree. It's

28:00

it's fantastic. So thank you, Lauren,

28:02

and thank you, Nana. And

28:04

that is it for this episode of Happier

28:06

in Hollywood. For

28:08

questions or comments, email us or send

28:10

us a voice memo to happier in hollywood

28:12

at gmail dot com.

28:14

Thanks for listening, and please follow us if

28:16

you haven't already. Thank you to our special

28:18

guest, Genevieve Vincent, you can watch

28:20

season one of Fantasy Island now

28:22

on Hulu and listen to Genevieve's

28:25

beautiful music. Thank you to our

28:27

executive producer, Chuck Reid, and everyone

28:29

at Sancoula Sound. You can follow them

28:31

on Instagram at Sancoula Sound.

28:33

Thanks to everyone at Cadence thirteen. And as

28:35

always, thank you to Gretchen Rubin, happier

28:37

in Hollywood as part of the onward project.

28:40

Listen to the other onward

28:42

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28:44

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28:46

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28:54

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Facebook to join in on the conversation. Until

29:00

next week. I'm Louis Croft, and I'm Sarah Fan.

29:02

Thanks for joining us. It's a fun job,

29:04

and we enjoy

29:05

it.

29:14

Check Chuck,

29:19

can

29:19

you hear the beeping going

29:21

on in the background?

29:23

Oh, is

29:23

that you? Yeah. That's

29:26

me. there's road construction going on. I'm so sorry.

29:28

I can't tell

29:30

them to stop.

29:31

Between that and my coughing,

29:34

It's gonna be a very tough

29:36

episode for charters. Apologies,

29:39

Chuck. Bravo.

29:43

From the

29:49

onward

29:50

project,