“I’m happy to accept a democratic vote even when I lose. I have to accept it, because that’s what democracy is.”

“Being able to do what you want to do, and not have someone tell you you can’t do it. That would make you unhappy.”

Did Mike, in 2017, see the future and know how timely these quotes, and so much more of what he says here, would be? All my interviewees are honest and refreshing but I especially enjoyed listening to Mike and I know you will too. Aside from freewill and Brexit (never thought I’d say this but it was good to hear that being talked about again, specifically by Mike), he riffs on coastal walking, contentment vs euphoria, and football. I’ve interviewed many British people and it was starting to get really suspicious that, in interviews about happiness, nobody had yet mentioned football. I was about to corner my brother for a chat (in fact also called Mike).

Also I so deliberately left in the moment at the start when I move closer to Mike…remember when we moved closer to each other, rather than backed away?! Oh for those heady days.

There are two more episodes in this season of the #happydaysproject podcast, which will then return in 2021. If you’ve enjoyed the journey so far, please send the link to your friends so they can listen too! Thank you.