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imagine some of the news of the day,

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any of the what, 10 teams

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spread last week, pick the Raiders,

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I believe the Raiders of Las

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Vegas and Los Angeles

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and Oakland and my heart.

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Not really. They they did cover.

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They did. They did cover easily against Denver. I

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had that wrong last week. Good job, Anthony. Last

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week against the spread. We were okay. I

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was seven and seven. Jim was nine and seven. But

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Jim, my best bets. What the heck, dude? Yeah,

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I should start tailing them. I should wait for you to do it.

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My best bets have been more of just the

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actually, you know, that's a pretty good pattern. If

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you just don't do what I say, you're probably

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probably probably up like, I don't know. I was

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talking units, ship a lot of units. I'm

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nine one and two and on best bets in

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the past 12 weeks. I believe we've calculated it's

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random. Even a drunk squirrel does

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something that drunk squirrels don't do usually every

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so often. All right. So

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speaking of drunk squirrels, Joe Flacco.

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He's he's taking his Cleveland

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Browns down to Houston. This

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is the this is that one game where

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the home team has a worse record than no.

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I guess there's two teams, two games where the

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the home team has a worse actual divisional

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standing record than the road team.

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The Texans are division champ. The

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Browns are the the first wild

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card. So my question for you.

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This isn't going to really be a thing, right? Joe Flacco, this

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is going to be really going to be a thing. He's going

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to he's going to poo at some point, right? It has to

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at some point. Yeah. He's still Joe

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Flacco, right? Why are we rewriting his career? Like

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the only the only really cool part

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was when he like passed Johnny Manziel

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and career Browns passing yards and

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and Manziel quoted it. Some records are meant to

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be broken. Congratulations to Manziel

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for a quality joke. But

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it is strange. And he's thrown 300 yards every week. He

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escaped the pocket last week and ran

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and threw a really nice pass on the run. Not

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sure what's going on there. It has to end two weeks

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ago. He will. He will. I'm

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sorry. His last game. Week

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week 17. So, yeah, I

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don't know. I don't know what's going on here. I don't get

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it. We saw this

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this matchup very recently, and that

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was the Amari Cooper game. Cooper went absolutely

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crazy and set a single single game. Browns

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record beat a Josh Gordon record. I don't

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think Josh Gordon tweeted about his record wherever

3:33

Josh. He did. And sometimes you know, I

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have phones in those places. You know what

3:38

I mean? So yeah, I feel bad about

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that. So

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so I guess the tendency would be to say,

3:44

well, sure, the Browns will just go ahead and

3:46

do it again. Now, the

3:48

Texans, first of all, made that game look closer than

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it actually was with a couple of late scores that

3:53

meant nothing. They were getting slaughtered that entire game. And

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to David, the FCJ Stroud, which

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matters, obviously that matters. But

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he was like, he's a really good safety and

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having him, he would be the best safety or

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the second best secondary player on the Texans immediately.

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And he's like the fourth best secondary member on

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the Browns. So I just think by tears of like

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prepared and also Jim Schwartz doesn't care if you know

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what he's doing. He's like, cool, we're going to do

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it. So yeah,

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I'm, uh, I actually

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feel significantly more confident in

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the over than I do in making a pick. This

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is, we're gonna, as we go through here, we're going

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to throw in a few prop ideas. Since we only

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have six games to talk about it's six, right? Yeah,

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keep miscounting. So it's 12 teams, not 10 teams.

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None of them have the fire of their coach yet.

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Uh, but I feel

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like there are points to be had here because

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I think Stavansky is smart

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and does know that he can take advantage of the,

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of Houston secondary. And I'll

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tell you the reason I lean Texans to

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win this game, or at least to

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keep it under the two and a half that they're a home

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dog, which seems, you know, that's, that's wow.

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That's a lot of confidence in Joe Flacco. I

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don't share it. I just think

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at some point, everybody, the

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louder it gets, Jim, the louder it

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gets like, can you believe it?

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Joe Flacco, this is so great.

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Can you imagine the number of soft

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focus feature stories that whoever's covering the

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stupid game on Saturday is going to

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have planned of Joe Flacco cooking waffles

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and taking his kids to shotgun

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practice? I don't know. Whatever he does. Uh,

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do you, do you, do

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you think like that? I just think that that's

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the thing that crumbles. It's like when they showed

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what's his name. Uh, Oh man, I'm

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gonna, who is the,

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like, after, after Josh, yeah, well it's like sort of

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Josh does. Okay.

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And then after, after Josh jobs, what's his name? Oh,

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it's just flew out of my head. Yes.

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Gary. Who

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is it? Oh, oh, oh, oh. Nick Mullins. Mullins, right.

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400 yards and 400. Yeah. Right.

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They, they showed Nick Mullins his family again

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and again and again in the

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stands. Like, this is so great for

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Nick Mulholland, then he throws like eight interceptions

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and it's like, oh, you can see the

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little boy just cringing, you know, like, the

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pain. It's not my dad, not

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my real dad. I

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feel like that's coming for the Flacco kids. I

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love the Flacco kids. Listen, me and the Flacco

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kids are great. We're big fans of the show,

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no question, but I just feel like some disappointments

8:21

headed their way. They're like the Rivers' kids except

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the shotguns instead of, I don't know, what is

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that, swords? I don't know what the Rivers have,

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but... And there's half

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as many. Yeah, there's half as

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many. He's not as productive, clearly. Look at their

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numbers. Yeah, but it

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is going to come back to Earth at some point. I

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just wonder if this is the one. I wonder if that

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might be a week off. Just in

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terms of... They don't have that

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much, like, high-end talent on the team. It's going to be

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scheme, but I just, again, they're familiar. They

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just saw this team. I don't think they were hiding anything.

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The Texans were trying to get in the playoffs, so that

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was like a real game in terms

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of like, your book. I

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just think the Browns are

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just too good at defense. And I like, I really love DJ Stroud,

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but I do have a prop for this one, if it helps. So

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I'm taking the Browns, but I have a prop. I

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have Nico Collins. I know I'm talking about their defense, but

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I just think the concentration in Nico Collins, the

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line is pretty tempered. It's 71.5 yards on

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Draft Kings. I think he's going to go

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over that, just between his big play, ability,

9:16

you know, the fact

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that he's probably going to be lined up with Derek

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Stingley. I think that's

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going to actually be a benefit because they're going to pamper

9:25

him with targets against this rookie. And I mean, not that

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we don't talk about it. Nico

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Collins doesn't play against Derek Stingley. They're

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on the same team. I mean, what's

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her name? What's her name? Come on,

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say it. Yeah,

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Emerson. Or the other

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one, the good corner. Ward.

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Yeah, so Ward. You

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know, I just everything just changed in a

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second, which is how this works under under

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on the cook. Oh, under on the cook.

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No, but your concentration is going to go

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over. Right. Right. Because we don't have any

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tank. sure as of

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our recording this whether Noah Brown plays and

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and heaven knows in that my best bet last

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week was the Texans in Indianapolis and heaven

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knows when the money you met the road or

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whatever the money does with the road to

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mix my metaphors they sure did throw to Nico

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Collins a lot right and Kenny Rhodes is really

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good for it for it for it's cold so

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there you go I know some names there you

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go where go let's go I couldn't remember Nick

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I couldn't remember Nick Mullins so hey man I'm

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not casting stones so I think we're on

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opposite sides there I'm gonna take the points at home points plus two

10:30

and a half I don't feel great about it I like the over

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it's 44 and a half that's not

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even that outrageous of a total it's it's one

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of the higher totals of the week but definitely

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not the highest so I

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like Joe Foles playing you know he's good

10:43

the best like if that

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happens dude if it's Joe Foles I'm gonna lose my

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mind I got enough of that like yeah I was

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against my team but even if it wasn't I'd be

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I'd be over it all

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thing I'm gonna Spat smatter in

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some coach stuff as we go along and

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the biggest news that we have as a

12:05

recording this is that Pete Carroll is Out

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in Seattle. They missed the playoffs. I think

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a lot of folks were pretty surprised by

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that I think I wasn't one

12:13

of them. I had the season total under They

12:16

wound up finishing 9 and 8. I don't

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believe in Juno Smith. I believe he exists. I don't think

12:21

he's good at quarterback Your

12:23

reaction to Petey sunshine Taking

12:25

a dirt nap as a coach Well,

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I saw his his coaching span and he

12:30

was like an assistant for like the Baltimore

12:32

Colts in 75 It was just

12:34

like whoa. This guy's been around Yeah,

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yeah, he's been around I don't know. I'm

12:39

gonna miss the gum chewing. I'm not gonna

12:41

miss when he brings in like Jordan Peterson

12:43

for like motivational talks You

12:46

know, this is my take, you know, it's just like

12:48

okay But I will say

12:50

that he's leaving them in a pretty good place as

12:52

far as like, you know Transitions

12:54

go. I don't think it's like completely inept They have a

12:56

really good defense. It'd be fun to see them have somebody

12:58

take over like Dan Quinn I know people

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talk about offense or defense like I don't know.

13:03

I thought he'd be good with Devon Witherspoon Maybe

13:05

not know he's a bad wouldn't Witherspoon be good

13:07

without Dan Quinn. I mean, that's my yeah. Yeah

13:10

I just honestly I'm just going based off some tweet

13:12

I read today. So um me too You know, it

13:14

sounds like it's it's in the bag. It almost sounds

13:17

like yeah Yeah,

13:19

I'm trying to sell it. Um, it's amazing.

13:21

I hit on the quarterback. We talked about the G

13:23

No thing, you know drew lock knows all the all

13:25

the GZ lyrics but that's not gonna help you when

13:27

it comes to throwing touchdowns except if it's the Eagles

13:29

with that 92 yards and two minutes left, but

13:32

Overall, I mean, I don't know what to say.

13:34

It just opens up another vacancy I will say

13:36

it's one of the better jobs if I'm David

13:38

Tepper. I'm like damn once again I'm like he's

13:40

moving further and further below the tip You know

13:42

totem pole because if you want to rank jobs,

13:44

I would put that fairly high like, you know

13:46

I'll have a neon uniform, you know, it's

13:48

like I think Atlanta's roster is pretty fun, too

13:51

But I I think there's something there

13:53

the defense is pretty loaded and they have two young

13:55

tackles But no quarterback, but that's true

13:57

with a lot of these vacancies, isn't it? correlation

14:00

between, you know, openings and not

14:02

having a quarterback. So, right? Yeah,

14:05

I think, uh,

14:07

probably the best job available. And maybe

14:09

part of that is just, they

14:13

kind of know how to do things and he's still

14:15

going to be there. And like, I think they've

14:17

been totally vindicated on Russell Wilson.

14:19

And, uh, you know, Pete

14:22

Carroll understood what was lacking when he was the head coach

14:24

of New England and made sure that Paul Allen, who was

14:26

alive at the time and had a lot of money, didn't

14:28

make those same mistakes that the

14:30

Patriots continue to make with being cheap on

14:32

everything and having facilities that stink

14:35

and all, you know, just everything is first class

14:37

in Seattle. So I agree. I think it's a

14:39

good spot. Um, and we will miss Pete, Pete

14:41

Carroll, but not his injury reports. No, not, uh,

14:44

not, not an honest guy. All right.

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Let's go to Saturday night. Uh,

14:48

let me ask you this may be my

14:51

favorite matchup of the weekend and it's going

14:53

to take place in maybe the coldest situation

14:55

in NFL history. They're saying, or in recent

14:57

history anyway, uh, the dolphins

14:59

totally built for cold weather are going

15:02

to a Kansas city. And we've,

15:04

we've, uh, pointed out

15:06

Kansas city's flaws all season long.

15:09

So any, any picking of

15:11

Kansas city here or kind of leaning in

15:13

their direction or thinking that match ups work

15:15

great has to come with an

15:17

asterisk because there are a lot

15:19

of things wrong with Kansas city. There are, I

15:21

was going to say it's tough to trust either

15:23

of these teams right now for different reasons. The

15:25

Kansas city, just the whole year, their whole portfolio.

15:27

I mean, I look at an Eagles fan, you

15:29

know, we beat the, we stop it doing that.

15:33

The Eagles, I will say the Eagles, the Eagles,

15:35

the Eagles beat the chiefs and it was

15:38

like, oh, there's a way. And that's the way to

15:40

now just looks it depreciate. It's like in a college

15:42

football team, beat somebody early. And then, you know, it

15:44

looks like strength of schedule. It's not nearly as impressive.

15:46

That's the case with this chief's team on

15:48

the other side. You have this dolphins team who just is

15:50

a roading on defense. I mean, the

15:52

number of injuries and impact positions has been really,

15:55

and I think that influences why this line is

15:57

this way. Obviously, if, if, if Vic

15:59

Fangio. had a full deck this would be a 1.5

16:03

or 2 points or something like it opens

16:05

around there right it's been pushed Miami's

16:09

never played never won a game in princess history

16:11

below 67 degrees no

16:14

I don't know I made that up but I

16:16

think midway through the second quarter they're all gonna

16:18

turn into like gelato you know just

16:21

like passion fruit mango

16:23

to a you know like Vic Fangio

16:26

will just be like cigar flavored but

16:28

I think that the main thing here is that like the

16:31

Eagles have this same very different but then there's probably words

16:34

like are you gonna change is there a playoff mode is

16:36

there a button you press and I

16:38

don't know if there is I don't think there

16:40

is I also think there is this finesse concept

16:42

with the Dolphins when really they can run and

16:44

they can kind of keep away and I like

16:47

the under in this but just between just between

16:49

the fact that I think they're gonna play keep

16:51

away and like subdue the game but

16:53

is it weird to say that I'm not afraid of the

16:55

Chiefs like in their offense anymore like nothing is weird it's

16:58

just that like the sample size

17:00

isn't a couple weeks it even dates back to last year

17:02

they turned it on in the playoffs but so again last

17:04

year they were able to find it but

17:06

whatever the marginal differences are in what they did

17:08

last year to this year it's also the decline

17:11

of Kelsey there's several factors blah blah blah I

17:14

am this was a tough pick for me and I'm not going to share

17:16

it but this is tough because I'm going to steal from what you say

17:19

so if it wants to be my best bet you

17:21

have to change your bet um yeah

17:25

I the Dolphins I was

17:27

ready to feel like the market was going

17:29

to undervalue the Dolphins until I

17:31

found out they're going to play in the coldest game in NFL

17:33

history and I got to

17:35

be honest it sets up so well for my

17:38

homes it sets up so well for my homes

17:40

you said it they turned it on last year they weren't this

17:42

bad on offense during the regular season last year but they did

17:44

turn it on they don't have Jarek McKinnon turn it on that

17:46

might be actually a big part of what's

17:48

different not having Jarek McKinnon I'm not going to say not

17:50

having Juju is a big reason uh

17:53

but I'll say I will what

17:55

I will say is uh that

18:01

Just now Jerome Baker's out like they missed

18:03

their down two linebackers. They're rolling down the...

18:05

Yeah, he's their best 18. Yeah.

18:08

Like it sets up so well for

18:10

Mahomes. It's just, it's like,

18:12

I don't say that. I say that not

18:15

disappointed that I think Kansas City will win because I

18:17

do think they will. I

18:19

say it because I'm disappointed that Miami was such

18:21

a fun story and a fun offense and they

18:24

just got bitten at the wrong time. And

18:26

that's to say nothing of the fact that, yeah sure,

18:28

does Miami run well? Cool, when were he most of

18:31

us healthy? You know, because, and

18:34

we're not sure if he's going to play. Like

18:36

against Buffalo last week, I love it. I love

18:38

how on the first series, Devon H.N. has a

18:40

couple good runs and whoever, whatever Knuckleheads were doing

18:42

that game were like, the next

18:44

superstar in the NFL. And then in the

18:46

second half I was looking, I was looking

18:48

for a tiny uniform, a little tiny number

18:50

28. I couldn't find it. It

18:53

seemed like when the going got tough, maybe you needed the

18:55

bigger running back. And

18:57

I don't trust. If it's only Devon H.N. I don't trust

18:59

that he can run because we haven't mentioned that the one

19:01

thing that's worked with Kansas City has been the defense. Right,

19:04

yeah, it's true. They do

19:06

have a philosophy like spags is going to

19:08

send pressure and like unload. It

19:11

is a shame because I also think it's going to

19:13

give license to like, I don't know, like not that

19:15

I'm protecting to his reputation, but it's going to give

19:18

license to this idea of confirmation. Yeah, exactly. They're soft

19:20

and all these things. But if

19:22

you had a full speed waddle, a full speed Hill

19:24

and most dirt and all the things that make them

19:26

who they are, the dynamism, the fact that they have

19:28

this multiple option where you're stretching you thin, they're

19:31

not going to have that. They're going to be a little bit

19:33

more normal. They're going to have a normal hierarchy.

19:35

Right. So yeah, for

19:37

that reason, I already went into this. It's not

19:39

easy, but I am taking the Chiefs. I hate

19:41

the line. I wish it was three and a

19:43

half or three, but that's not the case. And

19:46

obviously the factors are understandable. And Vic Fangio, he's

19:48

a great skamer, but you can't do much with

19:50

this defense when everybody's out. I

19:52

mean, there's like their backup defensive ends are

19:54

getting hurt. So it's just like, it's scary.

19:57

For me, for me, a line of four and a half just

19:59

doesn't feel like. it quite accounts for

20:01

the injuries enough, you know, on

20:03

defense. I mean, offense, we

20:05

don't know how the offenses injuries are going to

20:08

resolve because Mostert and Waddle have practiced

20:10

and May actually went to playing. We don't know the

20:12

limit, but we know all those guys on defense aren't

20:14

going to play and it's great. Yeah, and Holland played

20:16

one snap last week, which is really bad. I mean,

20:18

that was a game that they meant to play and

20:20

they're running Jevon Holland out there and you play one

20:22

snap. That is such a red

20:24

flag that like they, you know, you got ready

20:26

for the week. So that's my fear. So tying

20:29

into the Holland thing, because

20:31

he's a tight end racer, I've Kelsey over 57 and

20:33

a half yards. I just think it's going to be

20:36

check down City and he's going to have

20:38

to get funneled. So there you go. It's

20:40

such a low total for him. It's funny,

20:42

the other pro, I only picked two props for

20:44

this. They both were for Saturday. So I'm

20:47

looking forward to hearing your other props. I took

20:49

Reishi Rice over 63 and a

20:51

half. And whenever has Reishi

20:54

Rice's yardage total

20:56

been six higher than Travis Kelsey's? Not

20:59

this year. But his target chair, it's finally catching up

21:01

though. His target chair's production, everything. I mean, he was

21:03

out last week and it felt like he was the

21:05

keep missing piece. I mean, they were resting him, but

21:07

I'm saying. Right. Yeah. And there was no moms either.

21:09

But yeah, I feel like

21:12

you do. Let's face it, Reishi

21:14

Rice kind of plays tight end. I

21:16

mean, I was talking about on the

21:18

podcast, on the main podcast this week, that his

21:21

ADOT, his average depth of target this year was under five. That's

21:23

what I was going to say. Yeah, I was going to guess

21:25

it was right around five. Yeah, he just gets these little crossers.

21:27

Yeah. And on passes six

21:29

yards or more, he had zero touchdowns. He had like,

21:32

I can't remember, 17 catches

21:34

or something. Like just not using them.

21:36

Those are saved for MVS. Let's be

21:38

honest. Those are fair point. On

21:41

to Sunday, shall we? Let's talk about

21:43

the largest spread of the week.

21:45

I guess it's the one that they're telling us is

21:47

not even worth watching. By the way, I didn't even

21:50

mention it. Saturday night on Peacock. How are you going

21:52

to watch that one, Jim? I'm

21:56

streaming. So now

21:58

I got a try. We're not going to talk. I

22:00

probably have a life contract in the Comcast somehow, so

22:02

I hope I can get it. So yeah. It's

22:06

just, yeah, great. Good job, NFL.

22:08

Well done. You're going to

22:10

have one-tenth the audience, probably. Somewhere

22:13

between 10 and 20 percent the audience you

22:15

would normally have. Two classic marquee franchises. Let's

22:18

just bury them on a, and just promote

22:20

like a new CSI or whoever has that

22:22

franchise. So let's go for it. Fantastic.

22:24

All right, so we are on the Sunday. We are on

22:26

to the Steelers. We're on to the

22:28

Bills. There was a time at halftime last week where it

22:30

felt like it was going to be Bills at Dolphins again

22:32

because if the Bills had lost in Miami last week, that

22:35

would have been the matchup. Instead, the

22:37

Steelers who, you

22:39

know, just, I mean, I don't think they're good, but

22:42

they figured out a way to get in,

22:44

and that involved mostly playing against the Browns

22:47

who didn't play anybody and still

22:49

look like the Steelers might lose, but nope, they

22:51

figured it out. They are

22:53

going to Buffalo. There's

22:55

not a cold weather thing like there would be

22:57

for Miami where we would have to worry about

23:00

the team. Instead, we can just

23:02

worry about, well, does TJ Watt play? He

23:04

got hurt last week. I would tend

23:06

to think not, but maybe you know something I don't. I haven't

23:09

checked on that. No, he's out. It's an MPL sprain.

23:11

Like they've ruled him out already. So it's like that's

23:13

not good. Oh, did they rule him out? Okay, good.

23:15

Or at least that's the consensus from like the beat.

23:17

They're all saying, right? Right.

23:20

Meanwhile, the Bills, you know, I feel like

23:23

all you can really say about like, we've

23:26

said it all year. There are teams that

23:28

their games are referendums about them and the

23:30

opponent kind of doesn't matter. And

23:32

the Bills are certainly one of those teams. There have been, I

23:35

mean, did Josh Allen play well in Miami last week?

23:39

Stefan Diggs is jumping up and down

23:41

telling you no, like he would have had an 80 yard touchdown

23:43

or whatever it was. It was way overthrown. I

23:45

don't know what's up. I don't know if he's hurt. I don't know

23:47

if he's just like not as good as we thought. But

23:50

once again, this game is much more referendum on the

23:52

Bills. It's just mid 90s Axl Rose. Like,

23:54

is he going to pass out in his hotel room or

23:56

is he going to come out and blast out three albums?

23:59

You know? Yeah,

24:01

seriously, I don't,

24:04

it's hard for me to, one, there is a wind

24:06

factor, I don't know how much, but they say it's

24:08

going to be crazy blustery there in Orchard Park, which

24:10

is a really great name to pretend that you're not

24:12

in western New York, like Orchard Park. But

24:16

it's just a really big line,

24:18

Mason Rudolph, like what? He's

24:20

the starter. I mean, we're not talking about that enough,

24:22

the fact that Kenny Pickett's healthy and he's just like

24:24

not the guy. Can

24:27

I ask you a Mason Rudolph question? Yeah. Are

24:30

his facial features too big for his face? They

24:32

are, they are. It's like, it's like, it's like,

24:34

it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's

24:36

like if somebody's like Daniel Jones, like MS Paint

24:38

of it, like, like, like, like, like, like Zoom

24:41

and stretch, control plus. Yeah, it's like,

24:43

and you don't know how to fix it, you're just

24:45

like, everything's big. My font is 27. But

24:49

the bills are just, they're volatile, they're super

24:51

volatile. I love what you said though, how they are really

24:53

like, opponent independent

24:55

in the way that they play. They can come

24:57

out and score 35 and hero, but

24:59

you know, it's almost the way that like,

25:01

look at last week, like EPA can be

25:03

terrible. But I just thought it was funny

25:05

how he looked at like, like Josh

25:08

Allen had like the second biggest

25:10

deficit of EPA in a winning game. Like

25:13

a plays loss, but also the second biggest

25:15

added. So he came out on top, but

25:17

he's, that's who he is. He's

25:19

a strikeout in three pitches or he's going to put

25:22

it, put it out of the park. He's

25:24

just a sort of out of play. I just don't

25:26

think this without why we saw it earlier in the

25:28

year, I was all over this dealers against the Texans

25:30

didn't believe Texas. The Texans was 3410 destroyed them. Now

25:34

the Texans look better in retrospect, but my

25:36

point is he is such a linchpin player,

25:38

not having the watt. Actually, that's why this

25:41

line so big. He's the strange

25:43

defensive player who can move a line. It's like

25:45

if Miles Garrett was out, like, you know, Houston

25:47

might be favorites. So I just,

25:50

my one prop for this is Kenny pick it over one and a

25:52

half gloves. He's going to have two gloves.

25:56

But I actually do have a real prop for this game because

25:59

I think stylistically, I think. I think aligning

26:01

with the favorite, I do like James Cook's

26:03

over on Carries. It's 15.5 on most books.

26:05

I just like it. Since Joe

26:08

Brady took over, he's hit that 5 of 7. The

26:11

one he didn't was a blowout where they just

26:13

didn't have to run anymore. They

26:15

just went to Leonard Tournette's ghost.

26:17

So there's an impression that they

26:19

aligned. There's a correlation between

26:22

Big Spreads and the lead running back. And I

26:24

just think there's more balance. I think

26:26

Josh Allen's over in rushing 38.5 because TJ Watt's

26:28

not there to scare him. I

26:31

think they cover. I just think this dealer's team

26:33

is a fraud, like of all the frauds. And I'm an Eagles

26:35

fan, and I'm calling somebody a fraud. There

26:39

are going to be three games here that I nailed the

26:41

line, but I made myself make picks on all of them.

26:44

Mostly because the best bets have worked out so

26:46

well. Now I'm feeling full of myself. This

26:49

would not be one of them, but I

26:51

guessed exactly the line would be 10. As

26:53

of our recording this, the line is exactly 10. And

26:55

if I have to choose a side, I don't want

26:58

to be on Mason Rudolph's giant face. So I'm going

27:01

to be with you on the Bills minus 10. This could

27:03

go so wrong because every game is

27:05

a referendum. It's easy to see a bunch of

27:07

ways for this. I think we

27:09

all think the Bills probably win, but it's easy

27:11

to see how this gets close. I mean, I've seen

27:13

the Giants play them close up there. Especially over the lead and crazy

27:15

gross, like George Pickens, 75 yard catch, where he dances down 20. And

27:23

then suddenly you're not covering. Or just

27:25

like Josh Allen. Josh Allen. Slow to

27:27

show up in games, right? He just has been.

27:29

Suddenly he throws two pick sixes. It's

27:32

17-nothing. There you go. And you're

27:34

like, oh, cool, cool, cool. So tell me how I cover here.

27:36

That would be, I think you're going to win, but like tell

27:38

me how you win by 10. That does feel like it could

27:40

happen, but yeah, I'm going to be with you. I'm not that

27:42

enthused about it. All right,

27:45

the next, actually, before we get

27:47

to the next game, I want to ask you another, I want

27:49

to ask you another coaching question. And

27:52

that question is about another surprise firing,

27:54

relatively speaking. There was more possibility that

27:56

this might happen, but I want to

27:58

get your impression of Mike Vraig. leaving

28:00

Tennessee. Yeah, I'm kind of

28:02

one of the coach the Eagles. Yeah,

28:05

no, it's a good timing for him with a

28:07

good market. It is confusing

28:09

but I suppose it came down to him. I don't know

28:11

what the list will read more about it

28:13

but if it comes down to control personnel control did he

28:15

want more control? I don't

28:17

know. They're moving on. I mean he's

28:20

a good coach. I like him. Guys like playing for him. It

28:23

seems like he's done a lot with a little like before

28:25

or not with little but he also owns his style right

28:27

that you said it before like Tennessee you know what you're

28:29

getting. They can also be a little bit match-up independent like

28:32

when they come out and they're punching you in the face

28:34

a couple years ago they made that kind of kind

28:37

of fraudulent run with with Tana Hill right

28:39

into the AOC Championship game but

28:41

there's still a style that they have that just beat you

28:43

in the face and I think he's

28:45

gonna be attractive because of that because there's a

28:47

notable identity and not to stick with the Eagles

28:50

keep going but like Sirianni is kind of like

28:52

this like just guy who will listen to the

28:54

upper management and do and press the buttons. That's

28:56

not variable so I don't think he's for every

28:58

situation but I would be curious to see like

29:00

him in a Seattle or him in a team

29:02

that already has the turnkey or like New England

29:05

and like you know and I think people forget

29:07

that with like Christian Gonzalez and Judon like

29:09

they were out the whole year there is

29:11

some stuff there you know and then let's

29:13

just see if Marvin Harrison can throw can

29:15

be a quarterback too you know. So yeah

29:17

I mean as of recording

29:20

this the Patriots haven't made a move with Belichick

29:22

yet and every day that goes by the the

29:25

people that I know in that organization don't know what's

29:27

gonna happen like they they're not decision

29:29

makers at the high level so they don't know they

29:31

they have not been told but

29:34

like this seems awfully coincidental

29:36

it seemed like as of a few weeks

29:38

ago the Titans ownership was like of course

29:40

for a tables back and all

29:42

of a sudden it's like he not only

29:45

is he not back he's fired we're gonna pay

29:47

his salary not to be here and

29:49

to me if you know Mike Vrabel

29:51

I don't know him personally but you know that

29:54

he is really smart but

29:56

also really we would like him

29:58

very sarcastic Very funny,

30:01

very biting, and when he wants

30:03

to talk his way out of the situation, he did

30:05

it in New England, frankly. When he

30:08

was a free agent, he just kind of complained

30:10

about the way they spent money, which they've always

30:12

been cheap in New England, and they traded them.

30:15

It was towards the end of his career, but they

30:17

got rid of them, and they could have probably used them. And

30:20

with the Houston was it? Yeah, I would

30:22

love for the Patriots to wind up with

30:24

him, which is crazy because my whole thing

30:26

with the Patriots has been like, enough with

30:28

the defensive head coaches. Please, can we get

30:30

an offensive head coach? You

30:33

and I have said this so many times during this

30:35

year. When you get the defensive head coach, you get

30:37

the offensive coordinator, and if it works out, that coordinator

30:39

is gone in two years anyway. You've got to start

30:41

all over again. It's exactly what happened to Vrabel in

30:43

Tennessee with what's his name, who's now LaFlore

30:46

in Green Bay. Yeah, that's true. That's actually a

30:48

great point. I mean, not actually, but we

30:51

just saw it with St. Stike in. He leaves, and

30:53

then the identity's gone, and you're left to scramble. There's

30:55

only a few select coaches who survived those over and

30:57

over, the McVays, the Shanahans, the poaching. Sure,

31:01

but they're offensive guys, so they don't lose their

31:03

play color, or they are the play color. That's

31:05

what I mean. Those guys who can afford attrition,

31:07

whereas the defensive guys, do you have anybody's cell

31:09

phone number? That's Dan Quinn. He lost Shanahan. But

31:14

that said, Vrabel does seem

31:17

to have that geno-siqua,

31:20

the indefinable quality that you

31:22

know it when you see it, which is to

31:24

say, leader of men, nothing's

31:26

ever really too big for him. That's

31:28

what you want. There aren't that many guys. There's

31:31

so many teams that don't have that in the NFL,

31:34

so he's going to make a good candidate somewhere. He's

31:36

like Dan Campbell without blood pressure medication. You know what

31:38

I mean? Well, that remains to be seen.

31:40

We'll talk about that game in a second. All

31:43

right, let's talk about the middle game on Sunday.

31:45

It's the Packers. It's the Cowboys. And

31:50

I keep saying none

31:52

of these teams have fired their coach so far,

31:54

because after an entire season

31:56

of Jerry Jones swearing up and down that

31:58

– this is great

32:01

also great there's no chance

32:03

i'm i would never make a change is

32:05

all going so well suddenly the last week

32:07

weekly all the cowboys have done is float

32:09

is this guy's we will let's see let's

32:11

see it i'd say it's about fifty fifty

32:13

like i think that is the most predictable

32:15

he'll turn it may be an NFL history

32:18

yes we're going to where the eagles can actually win

32:20

a game on Sunday without playing because

32:22

they didn't have a blue they would just be so much

32:24

out of the way and i think i

32:26

just i i i just i would create so many

32:28

burner counts uh... uh... yeah but

32:31

the big biggest of the packers is

32:33

actually think we're working and i thought that they

32:35

have to study with it but i did look

32:37

through and i think i was a place eight

32:39

games were gonna filter out anything that's outside of

32:41

top twenty in all that the deal a right

32:44

so just like the tip like and that does

32:46

take away the cardinals but here's the point they

32:48

play eight games against teams that we can consider

32:50

top twenty offenses that's not that big of a

32:52

bar right and they've surrendered twenty six

32:54

point the game those teams so they get to be

32:56

like the the the the up and down games and

32:58

love is firing on all cylinders i'm not going to

33:01

tip my pick here but it's just that i'm

33:03

not completely sure why it's over a touchdown

33:05

here i understand like the the idea of

33:07

playing texas is hard and is it though

33:11

and just that like the cowboys also

33:13

like they live off pressure their secondary got beat up

33:15

this year they need to get to the quarterback to

33:18

make it happen they have all the things that but

33:20

the one thing the package have they have a really

33:22

good online they have protected love and

33:24

what does move a little bit he can roll so i

33:27

don't like this setup of the one of my

33:29

props not even to pick the game of my

33:31

promises the the the passing number for this total

33:33

so the point the game total fifty fifty and

33:35

a half on drafting and love

33:37

passing numbers two forty seven and a half

33:39

i think that's too low and

33:41

i know you know yeah i think it's

33:43

patrick receivers but i mean doesn't at some

33:45

point somebody christian wants a hamstring i'd

33:48

like the over on his yardage and i just like that

33:50

this can be up and down game i think this is

33:52

going to be a back-and-forth game i can't see this being

33:55

uh... a dropping the way the line kinda just should

33:58

be So

34:02

I tell you why I think the line is what

34:04

it is, as of our recordings it's seven and a

34:06

half for the Cowboys. I

34:09

think it's because nobody believes that what we

34:11

saw from Green Bay's defense the past couple weeks is going

34:13

to hold up. That

34:15

you know, sure, Green Bay might put a pretty good number up

34:17

there, but the Cowboys will be able to name theirs 49 or

34:19

whatever. I

34:23

don't have any way of really disagreeing with that other

34:25

than to say, you know, have

34:28

you ever really gone broke betting

34:31

against the Cowboys rising

34:33

to what they should do in a playoff game over

34:35

the last 20 years? You know, great,

34:38

prove me wrong and I'll tip my cap. I'm fine with

34:40

it, but it sounds like we're leaning in

34:42

the same direction. Like it

34:44

should be a fun game, a high scoring game.

34:47

I'm into it. I get it that

34:50

probably the weakest unit on the field is probably

34:52

the Packard defense. That's fair. You'd have

34:54

probably agree with that, right? Yeah, they've completely under performed. Yeah, they have

34:56

a couple guys. But yeah, Kenny

34:58

Clark's been good. That's it. And they've played

35:00

better lately. They needed it in Minnesota. They

35:02

played better. They needed it against Chicago. They

35:04

played better. So maybe that's great. I'm

35:07

not even going to consider the turnaround real, but maybe

35:09

it is. And then this looks all the better.

35:13

But I, you know, so sure, the Cowboys are going

35:15

to score some points, but I couldn't agree with you

35:17

more that I think people say, well, the Cowboys simply

35:19

have one of the best defenses in the league. I

35:21

think those people have Micah Parsons jerseys. Like

35:24

I don't really think it's true. I think they've got

35:26

a lot of good personnel, but I, all I see

35:28

is free receivers running for long touchdowns against them. Yeah,

35:30

it's true. I think you can beat up the secondary. They're

35:33

going to, Quinn's aggressive. So if love

35:35

and love has been just, I'm

35:38

completely shocked basically by how good

35:40

love's been, particularly these, particularly the

35:42

last, like it's not a small sample size. It's not one

35:44

of these like two or three week things like the defense.

35:47

That's, that's hard to really buy into, but it's

35:50

easy for me to buy into this team

35:52

and he's done it with a rotating cast.

35:54

So it's, it's almost like the CJ strap

35:56

thing where he's done so much with kind

35:58

of like a, like a rotating. cast of

36:00

characters that at some point you're just like okay this kind

36:02

of is who he is at least this season I don't

36:04

know if it's forever I think

36:07

this should be like a it sounds like a big difference but

36:09

I think it should be like a six point line you know

36:11

and I said that six and I just think that is the

36:14

guess so yeah I said

36:16

it at six it's seven and a half I

36:18

am also with you we're gonna take the points

36:20

and and we'll be on the Packers to maybe

36:22

lose a close one or maybe the mic and

36:25

the mic McCarthy era in Dallas it couldn't be

36:28

clearer I mean it couldn't be

36:30

clearer that's what's been leaked to the media moles

36:32

the skin puppets in the NFL media have been

36:34

told the fun they just they're not they're not

36:36

putting the exact dot on it but if

36:38

they lose this game McCarthy's gone and Belichick is probably

36:40

the coach of the damn guy oh my god incredible

36:42

I would love that you know the new jersey swaps

36:45

like they should make like LeFlore wears

36:47

like tight like he wears like be or he

36:49

probably wears a really nice joggers they should make

36:51

Mike McCarthy have to wear his outfit afterwards and

36:54

then LeFlore just gets like a big

36:56

baggy like you know like starter jacket or

36:58

whatever McCarthy wears so yeah the

37:00

walk of shame let me

37:03

ask you about another another coaching situation

37:05

Arthur Smith who we've had great

37:07

fun with here on the show we had great

37:09

fun with on the on the main podcast and

37:11

Dave Piper has certainly had a lot of fun

37:13

with on silliest thing videos which are great he's

37:17

gone and he went out guns a

37:19

blazin yelling

37:21

at Dennis Allen who probably also should be gone I'm not

37:23

gonna like have a lot but I love that the instigator

37:25

of all of it is James frickin Winston like of course

37:27

it is of course it's James

37:30

Winston right like he's the dumbest man

37:32

in the world but he's like a

37:34

sweet happy funny goldfish you know he's

37:36

nice whatever I don't know if he's sweet

37:38

crab legs would tell me otherwise so

37:41

so Atlanta what I want to ask about the fact

37:43

because you know or I'll tell you what others miss

37:46

gonna be the offensive coordinator for Mike Ray Berlin New

37:48

England probably but whatever is

37:51

Atlanta a good job is Atlanta a good

37:53

job like from an Arthur blank perspective I mean

37:55

he's rich it's fine whatever I mean like the

37:57

current roster Defense

38:00

needs an incredible amount of work, in my opinion. Like,

38:02

I think it's... They're the team that

38:04

always signs, like, the defensive end, like, four

38:06

years after everybody else gave up on them.

38:08

You know, they're like the... You

38:10

know what I mean? Like, they're like, this guy had 10 sacks

38:12

in 2017. Like that's how

38:15

they sign their line. So

38:17

I would say that it needs a lot of work, but

38:19

I think that the idea would be that it has a

38:21

good off the line and has all these skill players on

38:23

young, controllable contracts. At least for now, that can change because

38:26

time, and you gotta

38:28

pay them eventually. But still, none of them are

38:30

past their, what, their third year so far. So

38:33

there is some interest in it. I just think it's the quarterback

38:35

again. You gotta have a

38:37

quarterback, and it's one of these things where

38:39

the NFC South in general is just incredible.

38:43

But it's not in the track for me, one, because I think

38:45

the owner is kind of a... not a great guy.

38:48

And I'd rather be in a situation that is first

38:50

class in Seattle. I'd rather be... You

38:53

know, there's just been... The Chargers, at least, have a

38:55

quarterback, you know? So there are better

38:57

situations out there, obviously. So I

38:59

think Atlanta, the appeal would be the division is

39:01

soft, and that you have this ready-made skills group

39:04

where if you added a couple pieces, you could

39:06

probably have a pretty dynamite top five offense pretty

39:08

quickly. They almost did with

39:10

Smith, right? There was times that they were really

39:12

humming. I don't love the

39:14

defense, so I think it needs more work than you

39:17

think. I think it needs more work. I'd rather have

39:19

the Bears. I'd rather have all these other situations that

39:21

are asset-rich. Not that they have... Iber Flus, our favorite

39:23

pro jam coach, he's still there. He

39:26

is. Yeah, I

39:28

tell you, the New England people are all saying,

39:31

Belichick might not go to Atlanta, but it

39:33

won't be for lack of trying, because Atlanta really

39:35

wants them. That's what I've been told.

39:38

So we'll see, I guess,

39:40

if you want someone to rebuild a defense. I

39:42

don't want them to pick a quarterback, though. I'm

39:44

pretty sure about that. So we'll see. All right.

39:46

So the last game on Sunday, the Rams... I

39:49

don't know if the... You know this, the Rams

39:51

and the Lions traded quarterbacks a couple years ago. It hasn't really

39:53

gotten a lot of press. Yeah. Do you

39:55

hear about that? Yeah, 88% of

39:58

Lions fans only have messed effort, dude. So we'll

40:00

see what happens here, you know There's

40:04

a lot going on here. The Rams have played

40:06

very very well and worked themselves

40:08

into Looking like a

40:10

danger team in the playoffs for sure The

40:13

Lions might be without Sam LaPorta who's been

40:15

really important to them And they really

40:17

haven't been able to find a second receiver and

40:20

they have Jared Goff and Matt Stafford's probably better

40:23

So how how do you begin to

40:25

unpack? This potentially the juiciest

40:27

of all the matchups of the weekend I

40:30

did like an anagram of golf and dome

40:33

and it's just like I'm doing these word scrambles of him

40:36

in a dome I Also

40:38

saw this one time I watched I don't know how I ended

40:40

up watching this but it was like one of those terrible YouTube

40:43

documentaries that teams do like Lion Pride or something and Jared

40:46

Goff was trying to make a clothing line and

40:48

I just was thinking about like who would be inspired

40:50

to give their credit card To and to anybody

40:52

or just any I wouldn't use your credit card to

40:54

like get your golf Like Jared Goff and I just

40:57

wonder what's the logo for Jared Goff? Like is

40:59

it just like instead of like Michael Jordan is just

41:01

like a quarterback falling over I

41:03

just love the idea that he wanted clothing line, but

41:05

I I

41:07

really love what the Rams are doing and I don't think

41:09

it's fake I don't think it's that patchwork and it's

41:12

the best match of possible for them because they're really

41:14

mirror images, right? Like the better

41:16

quarterback, but like they rely heavily on their

41:18

top few talents Like they funnel their offense

41:21

to three guys. The biggest thing is that

41:23

like the secondary I just

41:25

trust the coaching I trust for him I just for him

41:28

Morris way more than I trust Aaron Glenn who

41:30

like got an extension for being a buddy But

41:32

like they're they're just still bad on defense I

41:35

still think you talked about the independent part of

41:37

the bills The the Lions are

41:39

the same way in the way that like when they're

41:41

bad It could be against anybody and

41:44

they can lose like they could lose to

41:46

the Panthers But like they

41:48

could lose to they could lose to Derek Carr

41:50

like they could lose to anybody I think they

41:52

did they could lose to anybody when they need

41:54

to and I guess that the Point

41:57

is is that I just don't trust that they're

41:59

ready for this moment I think the coaching the

42:01

quarterback factors all these check marks. It's not enough

42:03

points I wish it was three and a half,

42:05

but I like the Rams I just think I think there's too

42:07

many factors here in their favor like I don't think they're afraid

42:10

to go in there and Just play their game. It's

42:12

gonna be high scoring too. So that favors

42:15

Tease it down man. Draftkings could do that. Tease

42:17

it down. You don't like three Yeah,

42:21

and that's not gonna cost you that much that have point so

42:24

so I I

42:27

Guess this we're at Lions minus three right

42:30

now. I guess minus three So I'm not

42:32

gonna nothing about tell you is gonna mean

42:34

that I'm very sure about it. But

42:36

here's where my head's at What

42:39

am I most worried about with Jared Goff pressure obviously

42:41

pressure like you get pressure Jared Goff It's over the

42:43

next the first time they play a good team with

42:45

gets pressure on they're gonna lose in these playoffs Rams

42:48

don't really get pressure outside of Donald. No, they

42:51

don't I mean Aaron Donald's really good but

42:53

like the Lions offensive lines good and

42:55

knows how to Like, you

42:57

know, okay. Don't let that guy be they're

43:00

gonna afford to double I get it They can solve the

43:02

numbers of damage right? So that

43:04

takes a big worry away

43:06

from me and to be honest Isn't

43:10

this exactly what we say about Matt Stafford when he

43:12

was in Detroit like yeah, let Matt

43:14

Stafford pat the ball and you're dead Yeah, you know

43:16

if he is an open guy, he's gonna keep Calvin

43:18

Johnson's gonna kill you But the second

43:20

you get pressure on him loses his head. He does

43:23

stupid stuff and what does Detroit do?

43:25

Yeah, get pressure and they get honest pressure. Yes. I

43:28

hate that. I don't like this you're

43:30

making sense Well, no, but

43:32

I understand from your perspective like again, I said this

43:34

line was minus three I think the line should be

43:36

favored by three. I'm right on this line but I'm

43:38

gonna I'm gonna pick the Lions, but

43:40

I don't feel super great about it because I

43:44

see your point I see why the styles making

43:46

fights kind of work for the Rams advantage like

43:49

One of them is smarter and tougher and has a better

43:51

quarterback. Like I think Stafford is better than golf That's what

43:53

I mean I think this comes down to like late late

43:55

game adjustments and late moves and I just think like you

43:57

tried to coach Yeah, the dude who doesn't have 12 pounds

44:00

of dip in his lip is going to be better. So

44:03

on opposite sides there, it doesn't sound, though,

44:05

like you're super passionate that you're like, rams

44:07

aren't going to be your best bet. No.

44:10

The only thing I like is Pooka over 77 and 1,500 yards. They're

44:13

going to funnel. So it's lower. It's lower than it's

44:15

been in the high 80s for most regular season games.

44:17

I understand. I just don't know who they're going to

44:19

put on them. I mean, I just don't know what

44:21

are the lines going to do here. All

44:24

right. Well, so Piper, Dave Piper, the producer, will

44:26

have figured out a way to put

44:28

all the props somewhere and either inside the video

44:30

or down in the comments, you'll find everything that

44:32

Jim has been mentioning. My

44:35

last coaching question for you is, I mean, the

44:38

Chargers have been, we've talked about the

44:40

Chargers having fired their coach. So it's not new. I don't

44:42

need to talk about the Chargers. We've talked about Carolina. They've

44:44

had, you know, they're a mess. We

44:47

don't talk about them. The other new one, since

44:49

we've talked, is the commanders. And not a shock,

44:51

but officially now Ron Rivera is gone. And

44:53

we don't need to go on for too long about it because

44:55

I think I know your answer. But is that a good situation?

44:58

Putting aside the owner and all that stuff, just Ross.

45:01

Yeah. Well, I think the Ross, I actually kind of,

45:03

I don't hate it because of

45:06

the pick equity that you have this opportunity

45:08

to develop around a quarterback. That

45:10

gives, like, in a coaching sense, it gives

45:12

you that runway to set the, like,

45:15

versus where, Because they're picking two. I'm sorry to interrupt, but

45:17

they're picking two, right? Yeah, yeah, they're two for sure. So

45:19

they're going to have May or who never knows what happens,

45:21

you know, with Williams. Or maybe the cost isn't that prohibitive

45:23

to go to one. And then the Bears,

45:26

whatever. The point is that there's value

45:28

there, whereas that's not in the game plan for

45:30

the Falcons or the Seahawks to identify that. So

45:32

that's valuable to me. I do think there's something

45:34

there. I hate to say it, Josh Harris. He's

45:36

the, I know a little bit about him. He's

45:38

the owner of the Sixers. But he does throw

45:40

a ton of stuff at, in terms of the

45:42

first class part of things, I think it will

45:45

change, like the facilities. I mean, you saw the

45:47

signs of the TV screen in there that the

45:49

Niners were watching. Like, that's all going to change.

45:51

That's going to be, like, an immersive plasma by

45:53

next season. Yeah,

45:55

so I mean, could I just say,

45:58

did they hire a basketball guy? They

46:00

did they will the Bob Myers is from the

46:02

Warriors. He's like handling the search because it's yeah,

46:05

that's pretty inept Yeah, it's pretty inept. It doesn't

46:07

look good for Eric B enemy by the way

46:10

that whole no That whole that

46:12

whole like incumbent take it over thing that

46:14

didn't really happen. Especially when players talk about

46:16

him They're like, yeah, he's cool. He likes

46:18

he likes breakfast sandwiches. It's just like what

46:20

like That's

46:22

just a fact about his daily routine like, you know,

46:24

they just like avoiding the fact that he's just not

46:27

a good not the guy but

46:29

I do think there's something attractive to it, it's a big

46:31

market and It

46:33

does a big fan base rather It has a regional

46:36

fan base like down to the south and it kind

46:38

of matters that doesn't matter because you're gonna have It

46:41

can turn pretty quickly if you get the right guy So

46:43

I think the opportunity to get may or whoever that is

46:45

it to it does change the calculus for me All

46:48

right, so we're gonna move on to well, I think

46:50

we're done. Actually we're done. So thanks for watching this

46:52

video Talk

46:55

about the Monday night game Jim

46:59

I feel like we probably buried the

47:01

lead here We probably should have started

47:03

a support group right off the top of the show

47:05

because the Eagles I mean

47:09

You know, we both had we both had the Giants to cover

47:12

against the Eagles who kind of needed the game or at least

47:14

You know, there was a chance they needed the game. I don't

47:17

think either one of us could imagine It was gonna

47:19

go that bad that AJ Brown was gonna hurt his

47:21

knee that Jalen hurts his

47:23

finger would become a tribute to Jenga

47:25

that the defense would make the Giants

47:28

offense look that good like that Good

47:30

really that good that good this

47:33

this team is uh, I Don't

47:36

know. I mean, it's not I assume it's I assume you're

47:38

gonna say it's not a very good team. I started working

47:40

on like Continuing education

47:42

thing for teaching. I started learning about like Geometry

47:47

teaching geometry to third and fourth graders. So I just was

47:49

like, you know what? I'm gonna learn something. We

47:51

need something out of this, you know And

47:53

then then I just kept looking up in the pain Yeah,

47:57

I mean they should the Draft Kings this is to

47:59

you guys You should make some specials for us for

48:02

us Eagles fans like like one and a half times

48:05

Like what like over 1.5 times that

48:07

we like send out like like like

48:09

self-care or or not like self-harm But

48:12

more just like self-loathing tweets 2.5

48:16

times I'm gonna change the channel and watch like Hell's

48:18

Kitchen or something like like

48:20

I'm gonna see like if Becky like consult

48:22

a steak and You

48:24

know, it's just it's just depressing I can't

48:26

I can't I don't say the fact that

48:28

the biggest swell in Philly right now But the

48:31

number one theme is how are we favorites? How

48:33

are these on the road? Yeah, kind of a

48:35

good question, right? Yeah, particularly the idea that they

48:37

can they can't and so Is it a Jalen

48:39

Hurst thing or is it a coaching didn't they

48:41

have no hot read and I have no idea

48:43

how to counter More than one extra rusher So

48:46

there's this thing of football with his four guys

48:48

who rush and if a fifth guy rushes the

48:50

Eagles fall apart it's like it's just

48:53

It's like an obvious thing it's a good

48:56

thing is though though Jim the bucks aren't

48:58

they never bliss And

49:02

they don't have a history a couple years ago of

49:04

absolutely dismantling Jalen hurts in a playoff game either like

49:07

that didn't happen So

49:09

yeah, the regression all hits at the same time

49:12

Baker Mayfield has a 5% turnover rate from a clean

49:14

pocket. He's terrible, too. It's really terrible. This is

49:16

gonna be terrible I'm not remember a couple years

49:18

ago Carson waves on his demise Played

49:21

in Cleveland against Baker Mayfield and it was just

49:23

like a broken rockin' sock and robots It was

49:25

like you couldn't make contact It was

49:27

just that's an old reference, but like the point

49:29

is it was bad It was like playing cards

49:31

with like 14 cards. It's just it didn't work

49:35

I just I'm gonna post at least three

49:37

nipples pictures during this game at least All

49:40

right, follow that at Jim. Yeah, I'd

49:42

underscored Jimmy McCormick because

49:44

he's the underscore Baron Take

49:47

an Eagles by the way, how You

49:49

really yeah, okay Listen,

49:52

I mean I Guess

49:55

this line and when I get it I

49:57

figured I'd be on the Eagles. I didn't think they'd be

49:59

favored, right? I guess it's at minus three. Like

50:02

it's Eagles minus three on the road. The

50:04

thing is you say Baker, I mean I agree Baker May feels

50:06

not good. And

50:09

he's been, he's just a certain kind

50:11

of fine. There's things that stats can't,

50:13

people are telling me he's like number

50:15

six in EPA. Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah.

50:18

Like I don't believe any of that. I watch

50:20

all these games. There are times where he looks

50:22

fine, but it's when everything's okay. You know, and

50:24

as soon as things turn wrong, he starts running around

50:27

and he's going to

50:29

make a mistake. Like you said, the turnover rate's going to be

50:31

high. Like this

50:33

absolutely doesn't, like we said last week, as

50:36

much as, as much hell as we're giving

50:38

the Eagle offense. This

50:40

really isn't about the Eagle offense. Like they're

50:42

fine. They're good enough. They're certainly good enough to be tipped.

50:44

Yeah, they scored a lot at home. They outfitted last week.

50:46

Like people are talking about that, but they've had like 28

50:48

points at home this year. It's not, that's not the, you're

50:51

right. That's not the diagnosis. And

50:53

they're not home here, but I take your point. I just

50:55

mean like they've been able to score. Yeah. That's

50:57

right. Home is the defense and okay. So

51:00

again, I don't feel strongly about it because of the one

51:02

of the three games that I, I nailed the line exactly.

51:04

I don't think there's value in this line, but I

51:08

think I'm going to take Tampa because I

51:10

don't hate it. I just, the defense is just

51:13

what the heck, man. I think, I think Tampa's

51:16

Mike Evans is really good. I don't think they

51:18

have an answer. No, they don't know.

51:20

I mean, the, the, Terry Slay is tweeting

51:22

again. It's just like, what are you doing?

51:24

Like, what are you doing? Stop, stop, stop

51:26

doing this. He tweeted zero, zero and zero.

51:28

And like, you know, and it's like

51:30

all this possum stuff, like Chad Johnson had a thing

51:32

about how they're playing possum. Brandon

51:37

Graham had a whole thing where he's like, we're just going to turn

51:40

it on. I was like, this isn't a, this isn't an old Dodge.

51:42

You're not just going to warm it up. Like

51:44

this isn't like grandpa is going to come over with

51:46

some good motor oil. Like this is broken. Why

51:49

do I keep saying these things? But I just

51:51

think that this would be one opponent of the

51:53

whole field, including AFC, like the whole field. If

51:55

you jumbled it up, then I'd be like, okay, I

51:57

can see it because it's also on the others. Steeler

52:00

2, Steeler 2, Steeler 2, Steeler 2, Steeler 2. So

52:03

those are the two teams I want to beat, Tampa. Sorry

52:07

Tampa Bay, I just think that we win. And I don't

52:09

think it's going to be pretty. So yeah. Yeah,

52:12

I don't think it's going to be pretty. I would

52:14

say stay away. Yeah, I'm full away. I

52:16

would say mostly stay away. I might move.

52:19

So... You might literally

52:21

move away. Do

52:23

you have a prop on this one? Yeah, just

52:25

like over one and a half times I hate

52:27

myself. So, yeah. No, no. Not a

52:29

real prop. Yeah, I like Jalen Hurts' rushing prop. I think

52:32

the last time I had it was 44. Let

52:35

me pull it up. What you do... Okay. I will

52:37

pull it up. I have draft keys open.

52:40

I'm vamping. Yeah, here

52:42

it is. Got it. Boom. Rushing. Boom.

52:45

Rushing. I had it before. I

52:48

like the over. They

52:51

pulled it. So that doesn't help. I'm

52:55

going to guess because of all the injuries with the Eagles. But like last time

52:57

I saw it was like low 40s. I'd

52:59

go over. I'd even take like a... If

53:02

you're doing a single game party like that, even like over 50, they're

53:04

going to have to run Jalen because of the function

53:06

of... That's how they're going to

53:09

have to scheme like short plays. Because that's... They

53:12

apparently it's that or a bubble screen. So give me

53:14

the run. Oh my god. I

53:16

mean, dude. Sirianni might be out too, by the

53:19

way. Just like he has until midnight. It's like

53:21

a gremlin thing. Like don't feed him after midnight.

53:23

He has till midnight to win a game. And

53:25

if he doesn't, bang. We're

53:27

on the phone. If they lose this game, you think he's gone.

53:29

I do. I do. Because of

53:31

how... One, if

53:33

you saw how Jeremy and Laurie walked down the hallway last week, it

53:35

was just like, I'm going to fire you, walk. And

53:39

it's just like it's the type of

53:42

collapse that it was. And also here's the thing.

53:44

He's an offensive background, right? And

53:47

so where's he put... And it's really bad

53:49

with the chain of events that seriously, the

53:51

Patricia thing, it's not just that it was Patricia,

53:53

but it's that you made the side of the

53:55

scapegoat and it backfired really bad. And

53:58

so that's the difference between... offensive

54:00

coaches, he doesn't have

54:02

that sustainability. He doesn't have that. They're 23 and

54:04

11 with Shane Steichen, and

54:08

they're 13 and whatever, 11 without

54:10

him. There's a huge gap between.

54:14

Although, I don't know. I mean, it could be

54:16

a Jalen Hurts thing. The thing is also,

54:20

it's everything, like you said. And it's

54:22

probably the league figuring out Jalen Hurts

54:25

a little more, figuring out what

54:27

kind of pressure. Some of

54:29

it is schematic though, because if you notice, you talked

54:32

about depth of target. He's got one of the highest

54:34

ADOTs in the league, or average area yards per target.

54:36

And that's just not who he is. It's all these

54:38

difficult throws. They just don't scheme

54:40

things. They need to make things a little easier. They have

54:43

the people. Also, it doesn't help that AJ Brown and DeFonte

54:45

Smith are completely injured, but let's not talk about that. Yeah.

54:48

I mean, Dallas Goddard had a mystery

54:51

year. I mean, he's hurt for some of it,

54:53

but he's the perfect solution against zone with deep

54:55

safety. He's like, middle of the field. They don't

54:57

pop. They make

55:00

them sit near the line of scrimmage. There's no,

55:02

it's strange. It's just a strange concoction of decisions.

55:05

And I'm just not, Sirianni's one of these jack of all

55:07

trades managers guys. You're just like, why does Greg keep getting

55:09

promoted? And then you find out that Greg just is nice

55:11

to people like, or something, or he, you know. Cries

55:14

around the national anthem. All right.

55:17

We're gonna do our best bet, our favorite

55:19

bet of the week. I'm gonna say you

55:21

gotta pick a side for your best bet.

55:23

Not a prop. Okay, okay. Yeah,

55:27

my best side would be green

55:30

bay. I like green bay the most, to

55:32

cover. I do. Me

55:37

too. Sorry, for

55:39

the people listening on the podcast, you don't know why I

55:41

was smiling because Jim nailed what

55:44

I picked as well. Green bay plus seven and a

55:47

half. That's also mine. That and the prop

55:49

would be loves passing. So yeah. All

55:52

right, well, we've done it. What do you think for

55:54

those of you watching on YouTube, we'd love for you

55:56

to leave us a comment in general because Dave Piper

55:58

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56:00

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56:02

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56:04

that. And then also in the comment, if

56:06

you'd choose, if you'd like to, pick your favorite side and

56:09

let us know and we'll shout out somebody off

56:11

the top of tomorrow's, tomorrow, next week's show. We're

56:13

not doing one tomorrow. This is it for the

56:15

week. And so I

56:17

think we made it all the way through. I didn't miss any

56:20

massive NFL news, right, that I

56:23

want to move on. Nick Saban's going to take

56:25

over the Panthers. That's why he's leaving. That's right,

56:28

John. And so he's going to

56:30

take care of his little bird. And

56:33

then Urban Meyer will go to Alabama.

56:35

And then yeah, the Davos Sweeney goes

56:37

to like the Roadhouse 2 is the

56:39

new movie. So that's going

56:42

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