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happy kill the sky there

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are you a flat on his back breathing

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hard as though he had been running he

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had a woken from a vivid dreams

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with his hands press over his face

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the old scar on his forehead which was

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shaped like a bolt of lightning was burning

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the neatest thing there's

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i'm vanessa zoltan thoughts

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i'm about to and with a good idea and it's embassy

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they they have abs so harry i'm serious

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if i now are pen pals in this

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chapter and so we're going to

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dream a little that who are ideal pen

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pals are

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rated a philosophical question

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can ah long last

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formerly accused murderer of

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your parents who is now you're godfather and cause

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of thing you have to apparent

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the a pen pal or that

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from my standards

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oh i didn't realize it's enemy

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south africa question merit

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even a story for us on the theme of earnest

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mess

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i do

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and under tell it with as much fairly

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and genuineness and i can muster the

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pandemic my family and i took a lot of

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walks especially right at the beginning of the pandemic like

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that march when everything sit down and

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outside seem relatively safe and

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we had a couple of standard roots right we

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could go right and then go up into the forest

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of you go left and go down by the ocean that us that we

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we were lucky live in a place that had lots of instant places

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to walk and we got familiar with these routes

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but as we started to emerge from a pandemic

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and a pandemic change one of our roots one of

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our favorite routes which went down by the beach the

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result march bridge washed out

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and they had to replace a bridge so

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we were on a family walk and

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the path was blocked you had to go , a

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detour and i was walking

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with sam and collect and can be

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in danny they want a different direction

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but sam had wanted to see like some

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wildlife or something or he had seen like hinting

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call off into the reads in one of the follow it so

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i went with sand and we walk on this little detour

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and the way the detour led the hookers

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to this road which had a blind turns

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and it's not a very busy road but ahead is blind

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turn and there wasn't much of a shoulder and

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i was thinking well maybe and maybe i should be

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walking with a nine year old on the throne because

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it's a road it doesn't have a lot of traffic i figured it

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be okay but what i did as i walked as

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close as i could to the side of the road and

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i put them like up on

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was basically like a berm like it was a the

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raised around and i was homeless hand

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and he was walk in there and i was walking just on the edge

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of history i know was

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little anxious because we're coming to this fifteen

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or twenty foot section where we really couldn't see her

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car was coming right and

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sam i could tell was not loving not

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being able to walk on flat pavement he was having to

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walk on the uneven grass and rock

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and when it's rose

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bushes like putting out towards him or whatever right

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and he said that how come you're walking down there and i'm locking

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up here then

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i think in the past when he was younger

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i would have just said oh i don't know my very in

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hundred and we we just talk about what he the characters

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like whatever i would a deflected a question but he's nine

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years old of older and i think of

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imagine of imagine before because

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i'm a priest like they see

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me dealing with gas and people dying ally

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insider said to him as like like nobody i

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want your fair because i can really see their cars are coming

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in if a car coming out of turn i don't

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want you industry and he

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said

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that you're in history

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how could you have yeah but

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might have to keep you safe and so we're in a walk this way

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and you know maybe next time he woke up this way but

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i want you up on the side there and i'll lock down

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here and he was like on

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the what will happen if a car comes around the corner

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you don't see as like well i mean hospital simeon

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time i'll

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jump in all try to jump out of away whatever idea don't

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worry buddy i think roka and

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then he looked on the ground

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we wash your mother's is a

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, into the corner but we're facing

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the corner and he

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was thinking

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very carefully

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thoughtfully and any said

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with a lot of reflected in society said

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read and

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i'll be ok i said

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our buddy are you worried about

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me he says know i know the way home

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from here

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the swimming pool that sit through

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this whole story about earnest about earnestness

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is because family

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will be earnest like what will become earnestness

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as a difficult

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having an attitude that is without

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any kind of double mindedness like there's no

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irony there's no cynicism it's

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just what you genuinely seal

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the less earnest response would have been

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and if a something like

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don't worry dad i'll be ok

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mama take care of us will make it without you if

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you know if you don't make a run this quarter but

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on the inside feel like do like know need another

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way home like home like know how to get home better the problem

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he didn't suck with me first right but he

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was just like fully earnest he was when he was looking down

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thinking he was like other ago left ago right

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straight right hum okay

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i'm fine like that was that was all there

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is habits and that's all he was communicating

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to me and even the only thing

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i expected to hear from him because of it's kind of single

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mindedness net sincerity there

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were no have thoughts or

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unspoken france that

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have a fairly earnest interaction

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well this is why once him

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what a perfect child

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yeah

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furthermore you think i've been said that is such

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a wonderful definition of earnestness were

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not only is there no sarcasm or cynicism

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but there's there's and sad

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nothing and said exactly right

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the whole thought it is all

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the same city like this around and

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saying and sans

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king's blues ends right leg

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that was the that was

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a hold of his thought to myself you know

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i'll be able to get home and this is a knows

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what that would mean that it's

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i think it's a wonderful definitions

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i think it is sort of also why we

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adverb it often goes with earnest is like

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childlike like a child like or nemesis because

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children tend not to hold words back they don't they

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don't have the kind of social constraints

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where they think oh this person would not want to hear this part

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of what i'm thinking if we were making

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and this is what sandwich something and he said it

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he wasn't going to take care of me in that moment he was

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just like

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don't worry dad was not like don't

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worry we'd miss you it was i

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know the way home and that's the really important thing important

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thing situation as we round as blind turn

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and don't lock up this way anymore the

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never

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yeah

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in all earnest

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the

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the i would love to hear this chapter

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the can

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quite swiftly in paper

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i can we

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supposed to be thirty i

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will earnestly try my best man

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okay

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can i got you

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were you i'd appreciate that

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on your mark defense

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harry wakes up because his scars hurting

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any china remembers a dream what's

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more the more and that he can see

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of room for my add weird point of view and

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he's like who say talks about as my scars hurting

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my don't want to worry dumbledore and i don't much

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fun to borrow his father his dad and her

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mine is gonna say the wrong thing and seven

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or eight to serious because he's my my

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favorite pen pal and i'm gonna be like a no

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big deal that may scar her it's also it's

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deadly struggling on is diane and

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then and he we also get some reflections from

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harry like two months ago the weasley time

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where the credit

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rob

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that of it like that last sentence was have him

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not that last i never thought you dislike

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us had like a vista of seven seconds left

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to use your like other say this nonsense

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any you know

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are you ready man to recap

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yes that on

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your mark get set go

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the harry wake up in a scar is hurting and he's like

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wise miss carter the last summer's got hurt voldemort was there

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but olmert not year and he's like of the weight of

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and i have a weird memories of like an old person

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and people talking about up being

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murdered and i can see the time as him

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and ah and then he says who can

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i tell about as i can tell her mind she say this and

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she sent me go to dumbledore i can't tell them what are so what

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made us had run and run as it does that matter

9:39

how his that's what everyone is apparent because we have to

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appear in a series and then to ritalin a serious it unless

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it's a when i want to tell them and ah

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and then that that's the editor

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the

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yeah yeah

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matt

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one of the things it's really earnest in

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this chapter is

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the thought process that harry

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as walking through an order to decide

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to right to serious

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that's interesting tell me more about about why you're saying

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that like was earnest about the process i think the process

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is really interesting or he goes he

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tracks his way through these different important people in his

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life and eventually ends up it's serious the

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where do you see earnestness guiding that progression

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wonder if we are able to be

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more earnest sometimes while

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and i silly sense because

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he goes through and essentially

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figures out that pitfalls of writing

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each person and of able

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to be honest with himself as

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to why he doesn't wanna right

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or money or my

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you know that factor which is gonna say she's

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gonna say he should reach out to dumbledore and he

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doesn't want to reach out to double birth of these

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embarrassed he doesn't want to

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reach out to run because wrangled some mister weasley

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and exactness embarrassment dang

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and i think that the

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front of other people were embarrassed that were embarrassed

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rain so he would he would

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tell ron and hermione and they would

11:02

encourage him the reach out you know to mister weasley

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in dumbledore and he's sort of like

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you know see i see

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my billie doubling talk to them

11:12

but he he gets to

11:14

in isolation be like i don't want

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that like that of her actually what i

11:18

want right now and i think

11:20

sit where all these like sort

11:22

of small earnest thoughts lead time the

11:25

most earnest that which is like i wish

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i had a parent to the hawks tail

11:30

and not i think desert so earnest

11:32

is something that he

11:32

never say allowed to enter

11:34

and that's when the realization

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pam about syria yeah

11:39

that's absolutely right i am part of our blessings really

11:41

great way to frame it which is that i think

11:43

possible arb confessions

11:46

are pro smoking sections or private ones are

11:48

more earnest and our public statements right because

11:50

we're by ourselves what's the point of having a double

11:52

meaning of your own inside your head that you're trying to hide from yourself

11:55

price and place like you do

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in your head is t tie yourself what you really

11:59

samantha thoughts are not true or not the

12:02

right thoughts to have but you do i often

12:04

say what you really think in your own head and

12:06

that's your right that's what we track in

12:09

harry's mind as he's going to his progression of folks

12:11

to arrive at serious he

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is having

12:15

this kind of furnace process of

12:17

reflection where he's like you to starts

12:20

was just like miss my friends a

12:22

friend is a officers kind of support you know who the great

12:24

friend for mine is great sense what would

12:26

her mighty say any he

12:28

knows or mighty pretty well i'm i think

12:30

had a pretty good guess it's as to what her mind

12:32

would say like his kind of imagination of what

12:34

our money would say sounds a lot like her

12:36

my knee and any advice to games

12:40

right i think about pretty good advice

12:42

if i should probably have followed right i

12:44

said lives but like says

12:47

so talking doubled or him and then he imagines okay

12:49

what would it be like to talk to them with or and then

12:51

is really honest with himself

12:52

right like it's very the tax described

12:55

a very briefly the even inside his

12:57

head the word sounded stupid that is the words

12:59

of his own kind of speech to

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doubled all right he's like oh no that sounds too stupid

13:04

i want nominal respect me i have other

13:06

he has his expectations of me he be

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honest about that and go with anything about

13:10

as other friend okay i'm on my other friend

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an immigrant run would say that it it again

13:16

did a pretty good imitation of around response

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and that makes him think about mister weasley but also

13:21

he knows he doesn't have a voice of in this weasley and that

13:23

takes into what i wanted a parent exactly what you

13:25

said vanessa and series of the causes

13:27

and he has top hat by

13:30

then he right serious this letter which

13:32

is full of the kind of double

13:34

mindedness that

13:37

it sounds like he was trying to avoid that he'd been avoiding

13:39

the thought process where he doesn't actually tell

13:41

serious what he actually wants or what he's

13:43

not scared of he hides information

13:45

from serious

13:47

after having gone through this very earnest process

13:49

reflection and coming to like the right answer

13:52

the for you can follow through with it and actually write

13:54

the earnest letter

13:56

that's a good question i don't know

13:58

someone to think out loud the refinery else

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i was thinking in this chapter about

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i want songs which is like a principal

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musical term you

14:08

know we think as murray and sound

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of music with you now she wants to

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be confident we think of aerial

14:15

ray of like i want legs

14:17

to be on land sow wants

14:19

to be not in a provincial town

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and , are all songs sung alone

14:24

on stage right and nine

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you go and watch these characters try to

14:29

get these things and there is seem

14:32

about the purity of

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the desire

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and i think i did talk myself into

14:37

my answer i think syria's

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embarrassed he doesn't

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want doesn't want to thinks that he's we

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and he he's also doesn't want serious

14:47

to know that he's treating him like a dad

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right , think he's like a little ashamed

14:52

about how much this relationship means to happen

14:54

you know serious his letters are a little

14:57

conversational and light and

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i think that we as adults know

15:02

that probably being on the run isn't all fun

15:04

and games and serious is trying

15:06

to make that seem better than it is for

15:08

harry sake and so i think areas trying

15:10

to do the same

15:10

danger

15:12

though i think some a very young age

15:14

we like know how to spin so

15:17

that people you

15:19

don't find out

15:19

earnest your wishes

15:22

he i think that's absolutely right i mean i wasn't sure about

15:24

the answer my question either which wire six

15:26

foot me when i was thinking was you

15:28

gave your answer is like harry want

15:30

a parent and serious isn't one the

15:33

hey i mean you know parents come in different

15:35

shapes and sizes way but like in an ideal

15:37

form it is a person that you feel like you can

15:39

show your weakness to and that you can say the hard

15:41

things to comfortably and i think

15:43

that he knows a series has potentiality

15:45

know that series has his relationship with his parents

15:48

but they haven't built the kind of trust we've

15:50

been at a time to do that around so like this

15:52

is the closest thing i have two parent this is a kind

15:54

of person i ought to right don't

15:57

actually has to write the thing i want to right because

15:59

you

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not

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that person i have

16:03

to write the thing that's that's not actually well

16:05

on say i to protect myself against all the things you

16:07

just name vanessa which is like i want him to think i'm

16:09

brave and one of the think i'm strong and want to think

16:11

i'm not worried about these things and so

16:14

i can't really be earnest about what i need to

16:16

ask of him because i most want him

16:18

to do is to have reception

16:21

of me which protects the relationship

16:23

as i see it now which , an ideal

16:25

relationship is now you have with an apparent

16:28

yeah which makes it really sad right because

16:30

because the end of the last book you feel like oh he has going

16:33

back to the doesn't he is that he has serious

16:35

he has this kind of this lifeline

16:37

to the memory of his parents percent new his parents

16:39

whose wants to be protective of him in

16:42

a parental way even though he's

16:44

on the run even though is not right there

16:46

these see like this these see

16:48

been thrown to harry and then and a second chapter

16:50

of before we see yeah but you know what

16:52

his pants so non serious can't fill

16:54

that role even if harry wants

16:57

him to any movies or cause a thing to that role for

16:59

him

16:59

yeah

17:00

the world that's preventing that right

17:02

not serious there's nothing that says

17:04

and harrier doing wrong that's where bad thing

17:06

that slick you pay for the summer together

17:09

he would be there by now

17:11

yeah

17:12

yeah

17:14

i will say that the

17:16

nine year old in my life she

17:19

does not like sharing houses feel

17:21

are you

17:22

are you have found that it trains

17:24

nice and a very strange

17:27

way see only will really

17:29

sarah how she's feeling with any of us when

17:31

she breaks down when she starts

17:34

crying smith and would

17:36

ever she starts crying part of me so

17:38

relieved because i'm like now we're gonna find

17:40

out what's been wrong for the last

17:42

however long fate she's been

17:45

upset for today is and she won't

17:47

collapse and like now

17:50

we can get be information from

17:52

her and not has been true

17:54

since uses the her you little and

17:56

i think that there's just something

17:59

human

17:59

about wanting to guard

18:02

that information that

18:04

vulnerable, ernest information,

18:07

harry is most vulnerable concern

18:10

about himself is that

18:12

people are going to think he's needy or

18:14

weak and unlike

18:17

that is the dursleys have raised him to

18:19

have the spheres and so of

18:21

course, he's afraid, you know, and

18:23

edited into this were like the

18:26

whole was the world's expectations around him, right?

18:28

like that was the yeah one of the dilemmas of the first book

18:30

which is like he's the boy who

18:32

lived and so he must be special and it's about to

18:34

be one of the problems in the spotlight he's the one that

18:36

somehow gets entered and that are and with the tournament because

18:39

he special and so he even if you didn't

18:41

choose that real from south it's been foisted

18:43

upon him and he feels the need to protect at how

18:46

many people's opinions of him depend upon that

18:48

sense of who he is right there you

18:51

know we we laughed when i told that story about sam

18:53

and it is neat right but it also

18:56

didn't hurt my feelings

18:58

have i am his parents and when i want

19:00

him to tell me is exactly what's going on in his head

19:03

present his job his not to protect me

19:05

or protect them image of who he ought

19:07

to be to be are always wanted to

19:09

be i know that's not always the way the printer relationships work

19:11

right and so i see why when there is

19:13

an absolute transparency even if

19:15

it's to my detriment like as a parent

19:17

bigger like that i love it it's great like

19:20

i laugh at i felt good even though he was

19:22

expressing absolute indifference to my my

19:24

, and and

19:27

like oh great so as it sounds like what we're

19:29

saying is that earnestness can come in

19:31

into places when you are with yourself and

19:33

being duplicitous doesn't serve yourself at all to see

19:36

why try to hide something from yourself or

19:38

when you're in a relationship where you trust

19:41

the others

19:43

here for you so so completely

19:45

that you're willing to the just say

19:47

what's on your mind right yeah yeah

19:50

the matter question vanessa i had to do with

19:53

this definition that i'm kind of

19:55

they can fucking around

19:57

this would you bet it has to do with being

20:00

the know mind like not having any any

20:02

double mindedness or to mindedness or

20:04

lead other things going on you say

20:06

what you saying in your mind is mind his unified

20:08

or whatever i wanted things that we learned

20:10

to beginners chapter and it's just and hint now

20:13

nothing be developed through the rest the series obviously

20:15

it's is that voldemort

20:18

has access to harrys mind right

20:20

and vice versa which complicates

20:22

a possibility for harry to be earnest

20:24

even with himself i think rights i'm

20:27

an example you gave with that in isolation

20:29

one can be in earnest i think that this chapter

20:31

shows how that works especially in the progression

20:33

of characters that he thought through

20:36

are you describe a nasa but like we know later on in the

20:38

series there will be times when

20:41

you cannot be honest with himself for

20:43

earnest with himself because there are things you ought not

20:45

to think just in case baltimore while know

20:47

he's thinking that right like where he has he has

20:49

to start policing his own thoughts and

20:52

being of two minds about himself as

20:54

really impossible task because

20:56

, can't be present your own thoughts with right like this

20:59

, get problematic and it's gonna get

21:01

problematic because harry

21:03

be single minded he always of two minds

21:05

at least until waldemar is

21:08

purged from him

21:09

the no it isn't that true for

21:11

all of us

21:13

i think we are capable of been earnest

21:15

marilyn

21:16

then i , it takes a lot

21:18

of work regular sending in my

21:20

chaplaincy and i'm sure this to for you as far

21:23

as like people trying to figure out what it is that they

21:25

really want and i think that

21:28

in those two or three or four

21:30

mayans our society

21:32

and patriarchal norms and white supremacy

21:34

and and our parents and our grandparents

21:37

expectations of us since you

21:39

know when i was a freshman by their i

21:41

would have students come to me and be like i do not

21:43

know with i want to be a doctor or

21:46

five just been told that i think need to be a doctor

21:48

for so long that i started to

21:50

think that so i

21:52

think fit as wary

21:55

as i am on several the metaphors

21:57

isn't as series

21:59

all the more

22:01

the impacting the way that harry is thinking

22:03

the

22:04

literally it actually works for me

22:07

because he's also impacting the way that

22:09

harry is thinking outside of the

22:11

invasion of harrys bream

22:12

yeah directly right i mean

22:14

that percentage your the mind is like a different

22:17

relationships in different wounds and

22:19

different traumas things are always impact

22:21

in are always we think and even if we're not aware the

22:24

influences that are going on in our brains of air

22:26

right himself earnest this

22:28

is a rare thing and it really does require

22:30

deep feelings of safety interest and care

22:33

which is what characters show that i'm is

22:35

it's why that progression of characters in his

22:37

head itself telling like you go to her mind first

22:41

and i think it's also important that like the imagine

22:43

response which we have described as very

22:45

recognizably her mining is also a very

22:47

direct and honest response right yeah mine

22:49

is saying exactly what she thinks

22:51

the harry

22:52

without drawing protect him or herself just

22:54

saying this is what i think and ron

22:56

to from sounds recognizable in

22:58

harrys imagination of ron because

23:01

this is exactly what wrong would say which is

23:03

also unfiltered by

23:05

health protection or

23:09

variety or worry about what harry will think where he

23:11

just says like oh boy i dunno i think you ought to do this

23:14

that's the earnestness of his imagine responses

23:16

and that the fact that the turns to these two friends first

23:20

how much trust in care there is between them

23:22

because those are the

23:24

the necessary ambitions for any

23:29

yeah i , say

23:31

we've been talking very positively about

23:33

earnest smith and obviously

23:36

it is a virtue is a

23:38

earnestness at least for adults should always

23:40

be disseminated

23:42

carefully wake

23:43

earnest fleet has hateful

23:46

thoughts weekend earnestly have

23:49

celsius spots that we want to talk ourselves

23:51

into better versions as and

23:53

we can also like haven't earnest

23:56

opinion while we're watching someone struggle

23:58

and know like our opinion

24:01

is that necessarily helpful and were

24:03

actually that kept quiet

24:06

in so i think they as beautiful

24:08

as earnestness is it's

24:11

beautiful one inflict self reflection

24:13

or when it's with that trusted

24:15

person you know like i just don't

24:17

want to say like it's always a virtue

24:20

and i think sometimes the trick to

24:22

a good relationship is sometimes not saying

24:24

what you said then i

24:26

don't mean what is that in a patronizing way

24:29

i mean like it's not your place to

24:31

see if what you think about

24:33

certain things it's not your place to share

24:35

your earnest spot

24:37

yeah i had a friend once you

24:40

the version of radical honesty that

24:42

i know that that are gonna see them as a book and it's

24:44

a whole like approach to relationships

24:46

and so forth and i'm not make any comment upon this

24:48

book was a not super familiar with i just know that this person's

24:51

practice a radical honesty sometimes

24:53

forced upon cruelty right like rats

24:55

like you can tell the truth while still caring

24:57

for how a person receives it and i think we ought to tell

24:59

the batteries we shouldn't lie and we can avoid

25:02

the truth but we i think if we're trying

25:04

to build relationship when we tell the truth we can

25:06

be aware of how that truth the land and

25:08

use language which is a minute

25:10

the a little tool to try to deliver that message

25:13

in a way that it can be heard and then builds up rather

25:15

than tears down and i think the

25:17

friend of mine sort of thought of honesty

25:20

as license to be

25:22

indifferent to how cruel a they're

25:25

hundred only might last year it's it's i'm

25:27

sorry but your tell are called like a c at you know like that

25:30

that kind of thing which like i

25:32

mean you can call a thing like you see it and describe

25:34

it honestly

25:36

you honestly care for the person to hearing

25:38

it

25:38

then you also to care about how to receive and try

25:40

to figure out and it can be a difficult thing but try to figure

25:42

out how to tell the truth in a way

25:45

that can be heard and helps rather hurts

25:47

not all through

25:49

the are your business or maybe it's

25:52

smit they're not all objective we true

25:54

and of my grandmother really hit as a haircut that

25:56

i i love

25:57

and iraq great am

25:59

the night or and i saw my grandmother

26:02

two times a week and every time i saw

26:04

her she told me that she's truthfully

26:06

and earnestly hated my her pad and

26:09

like that lightweight is bullying

26:11

at a certain point you buy em

26:13

like i loved her and it became a joke

26:18

the truth or not absolute

26:19

yeah that's right i mean i think the other thing

26:22

we haven't visited etymology corner yet but i

26:24

think we have a etymology corner might help us with

26:26

this because earnestness comes from

26:28

a pro dramatic word which means

26:30

seriousness right and

26:32

and the one hand that can be serious in that sense

26:34

of woke the know mindedness

26:36

i like this is so important i can't i can't

26:39

deflector i can undermine with

26:41

second guesses or whatever right sauna be single minded

26:43

that's that one's as earnest nests but the other

26:45

thing is like a can be trivial my

26:48

right is it actually important that your grandmother

26:50

tell you that says mike your heck out of how

26:52

important and hamid how to see how to tell it like when does it

26:54

become less important might like earnest this also

26:56

means i'm being this frank with you because

26:58

this is a thing that deserves the

27:00

candour i'm lending it right and

27:03

slang and so maybe it's hard you can't

27:05

be earnest is year

27:07

adding from and trivially

27:09

ray or make you laugh in your business which ashley's

27:11

in your business because that's not being serious as not taking

27:13

them seriously there

27:15

yeah something else it's

27:18

my earnest

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one other thing i just want to point to

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cause i love it so much is

28:46

harry is earnest desire to get

28:49

invited to the weasley to go to the credits world

28:51

cup in , know this is this

28:53

something quote unquote child like about

28:55

this but i feel this

28:57

so hard as a middle aged

28:59

person i still have

29:02

been like this where it's like and

29:04

so far years sit there

29:06

i'm super glad you're cancelling or meeting

29:09

yeah

29:11

the great like weekend earnestly have to

29:14

responses to something at the same time

29:16

there is a possibility for earnest to

29:18

my goodness you're right especially wyoming says

29:21

especially when you're sick and i get going to be

29:24

i'm

29:26

genuinely worried and i'm like sir

29:28

i bring said the noodle soup on my way

29:30

to the beach

29:31

ahead

29:33

i think that harry genuinely

29:36

is worried about voldemort and also

29:38

january the one who ended up at it's wildcat

29:40

detroit's the desert q equal

29:42

desires and actually i would say that see

29:45

didn't know that the all of my thing as a bigger deal

29:47

for he wants to go to the credits world more

29:50

than one cares about the vault them from

29:52

critics from cup is happening soon

29:55

as i am i can agree on play out over at least

29:58

weeks right

30:13

the vanessa this is a very exciting day in

30:15

the history of a second series of harry potter

30:17

like attacks have a family history

30:20

of not sorry productions what's in

30:23

all earnestness you were saying no

30:25

north america about that something

30:28

we've been wanting to do for a long time and

30:31

that is what we're doing their listeners as we

30:33

are introducing a new sacred reading practice

30:37

from a non western non

30:39

abraham it's pretty soon we're introducing a

30:41

buddhist they

30:43

could reading practice allow my family buddhist

30:45

my care lot about of the buddhist tradition of his teachings

30:47

and it's practice and a success in general i

30:50

know somebody resources to get a family practice

30:52

as cannot a scholar expert in a buddhist

30:54

tradition but i've been doing some research and says

30:56

we're starting a new block i thought

30:58

it might be time to introduce a new segregating practice

31:01

segregating practice going introduce today

31:03

it's called the for alliances

31:05

and it's given his name by

31:08

a really well known scholar of buddhism named

31:10

robert a f thurman norman

31:13

was the first westerner

31:15

who was ordained in a tibetan buddhist tradition

31:17

by the dali lama himself by tenzin gyatso

31:20

and he was a professor of buddhism at both amhurst

31:22

and columbia

31:24

the university is also the dad of uma

31:26

thurman

31:27

interesting way

31:29

wilde it's wild wrote an

31:31

essay in which he discusses the for

31:33

reliance's is a little bit older

31:35

it's called buddhist hermeneutics him he can post a version

31:38

of it on the harry potter in the sacred texts website

31:40

among our resources but i'm just like

31:42

planes you like where the for

31:44

lines as come from why they were generated and

31:46

how they operate within buddhism and then a talk

31:48

about how we're going to try use it for

31:50

our community

31:51

the great my i'm so excited

31:54

so a buddhist scriptures a very complex

31:56

as a different scriptural tradition they come from

31:58

lotta different times and places

31:59

the stories are

32:01

the

32:02

by orders of magnitude more than

32:04

our our in say judaism christianity

32:07

just more documents and ,

32:09

of the things that really tricky about them is that even

32:11

and i'm most ancient and reliable documents

32:13

sometimes the buddha would contradict himself

32:16

himself commentaries would say exactly

32:18

opposite things and so very early

32:21

on and interpretation buddhist scholars

32:23

we're thinking about how do we know what the right teaching it's

32:26

right and eric they're always kind

32:28

of reflection upon a hockey know when a teaching

32:30

as reliable as you know what meaning

32:33

it should care for you in your life and also

32:35

thinking about why would the scriptures carry contradictions

32:38

one of the kind of story that comes out when i think

32:40

about like why these teachings might have different

32:42

meanings the metaphor given that there's a

32:44

man whose house is burning he runs into

32:46

his house to save his children and still not

32:48

don't care that a house is burning they're all playing with toys

32:51

right and so in order to get them out of the

32:53

burning house he tells each child

32:55

that their favorite toys outside he tells one

32:57

that the dear oh dear carter's outside one

32:59

that us for started outside one that

33:01

a both heart is outside and because they

33:03

eat like a deer and horses in bowls

33:05

respectively they all run outside when what's

33:07

outside of actually just the ball car two

33:10

of them are disappointed but all three are saved fright

33:12

season and so there's a sense that like for pragmatic

33:15

reasons sometimes the teaching is adjusted to

33:17

the audience which

33:19

makes sense for why the buddha might just the way that

33:21

he teaches but for the person who's hearing

33:23

a lesson

33:25

no

33:27

and so the buddhist tradition especially a particular

33:29

tradition called the my yarmulke tradition

33:32

closely aligned with tibetan buddhism

33:35

and an important figure in tibetan

33:37

buddhism names on capa

33:39

this thing called the for alliances

33:41

so the the for alliances at least

33:43

according to professor thurman boomers

33:45

dad are as have rights

33:49

the first is trust for teaching

33:51

not the teacher oh love

33:53

that

33:54

isn't that interesting i mean i think that really this might be

33:56

really useful for us as we think about this

33:59

that of apple's that comes from an author that

34:01

has some problematic views right very

34:03

early on the buddhist that trust that teaching that the teacher

34:06

now what's really important about this teaching from the buddhist tradition

34:09

buddhist that there wasn't there wasn't that the buddha

34:11

and heard enlightenment on anybody

34:13

himself that he wasn't the

34:15

carrier of enlightenment and therefore designed

34:18

to give it to somebody else rather with

34:20

the buddha we do is set a person on a path

34:22

toward their own enlightenment however

34:25

you would trust the teaching of a teacher about like a

34:27

teacher gives it to me is the

34:29

teacher guys me in a way that i can find it myself

34:33

so for our practice when reading harry potter

34:36

when i thought the first up could do for us is

34:38

it could help us think about what

34:41

question the passages rating for us

34:43

right not a fairly what we think the

34:46

author means by writing this passage but what

34:48

passes at setting us up on like

34:50

what direction is it pointing us in so

34:52

we can see what questions it raises for us and how

34:55

we can arrive can waiver meaning we need to arrive at

34:57

so that's the first step the teaching another teacher

34:59

and for our purposes as mean what question

35:01

is that raised in us like in

35:03

our own in our own sense of the really

35:05

what

35:07

step of the for realizes is

35:10

the meaning and not the letter now

35:13

this is kind of obscure and actually the british citizen they

35:15

call it the practical dharma rather than a verbal

35:17

dharma fight scene

35:19

but what that means or at least the way that's been interpreted by

35:21

the buddhist traditions is

35:23

the turn away from sort of

35:25

the man to content that the words towards

35:27

the practical actions at a passage cause

35:29

you torrents so , way we

35:31

might talk about us in our practice yarn harry potter

35:34

sacred text is not what

35:36

does this passage mean what would it have

35:38

you do the third of the for

35:40

alliances with com the definitive

35:42

rely upon the definitive and not be

35:44

interpreted again if

35:46

is kind of obscure language that thurman users

35:49

and tricky because the meaning and it's reliance has been consistent

35:51

throughout the british tradition but one of the things

35:53

that the madame aca tradition suggests and

35:55

that sermon in his essay suggests is

35:58

that

35:58

like at stake in this third

35:59

that is that we try to get at a deeper

36:02

meaning of the passage is is kinda like the

36:04

so maybe damien out between

36:06

like it says but what's

36:08

, traditional thurman sourcing things is

36:10

that you know languages really malleable flight

36:13

if if it's raining outside there are any number

36:15

way that i guess it is raining outside i could say that

36:17

it's raining outside i could say today

36:20

there is water falling from the sky and small droplets

36:22

i could say there is precipitation which

36:25

is not frozen right like they're either way

36:27

this is like words or malleable and

36:29

this step once in a move away from at towards

36:31

what the deeper thing is it a deeper

36:33

meaning is that so

36:36

given all the kind of literary or

36:38

verbal

36:39

movements going on in the passage what's really at

36:41

stake much underneath all this that

36:43

the and passages where the trying to communicate use

36:45

that step three and

36:48

in a fourth reliance is to

36:50

rely upon wisdom rather than

36:52

irrational which is to say that

36:54

you know to take an example from the christian tradition

36:57

you can understand the command to love your

36:59

neighbor

37:00

you can know what that means

37:02

know what that means is very different than

37:04

to experience what loving your neighbor as thyself

37:07

like like so for our

37:09

purposes when

37:10

for supper guess about disappearing

37:13

from your own life as it

37:15

raises

37:16

great i love the different way

37:18

that this is shedding light i'm

37:21

similar practices

37:22

that not the same and then to what we've been doing

37:24

so i'll walk us through this not go through the four steps

37:26

and our minds you and our listeners of

37:28

the four steps and myself and for some reason

37:31

but i selected a passage this

37:33

practice is especially suitable when

37:36

meanings are unclear right what they're trying to

37:38

do is say like when there's contest when you're not sure

37:40

what something means these are the tools used

37:42

to try to get what you what it ought to mean for you

37:45

and so i selected a passage from the chapter

37:47

which was unclear to me the

37:49

passage like it is the final paragraph from

37:51

a chapter which is what

37:53

comes right after is written a letter that to serious

37:56

right he's written letters serious which

37:58

doesn't really say everything he wants to i and

38:01

tries to protect his own sense of what series is perception

38:03

of him might be and then

38:05

having completed a letter this is

38:08

the paragraph we have which is sort of inside harrys

38:10

hut

38:12

yeah i thought harry that looked alright

38:14

there was no point

38:16

putting in the dream

38:17

they didn't want to look as though he was too worried

38:20

for the dot apartment and later decide

38:22

on his desk ready for when had returned

38:25

when he got to his feet stretched and opened

38:27

his wardrobe once more without

38:30

glancing at his reflection he

38:32

started to get dressed before going down

38:34

to breakfast

38:35

the former life

38:38

in this tradition is rely upon a teaching

38:41

another teacher the we were interpreted that is

38:43

the think about what question this raises for us

38:46

not what question we think the author

38:48

wants us to raise or what cost me author has

38:50

author the text as but for us and our own reading

38:52

what question does this race for ourselves

38:54

to their question that arose in as passage for you

38:57

since

38:58

what a good steak for me and less

39:00

passage is what

39:03

would it take for harry to want to

39:05

glance at his for success

39:07

there's something sad about someone who can

39:09

right meet their own i am

39:11

like that is why we're watching

39:14

harry del ray ,

39:16

the letter actually looked all right then he'd

39:18

be a little look himself in the eye and be like yeah

39:21

i did it the heat give

39:23

me give he seems ashamed of what he dead

39:27

i think that was why i chose has become a question arose

39:29

from me which is slightly different from yours but related

39:31

my question was why doesn't he won look himself the mayor

39:34

yeah like a chapter starts with him looking himself mayor

39:36

almost try to check it starts with him waking up because

39:38

the pain but the first thing he does this look at the scar

39:40

because he feels pain in a looks the same to i'm not

39:42

sure why it hurts more right

39:45

and you know the

39:47

techniques and know that he does not look at a scar

39:49

at the end and i wanna know why his mother's car and i

39:51

think

39:52

i did your answer is

39:54

a good one and a possible one at a person doesn't wanna

39:56

see their own reflection a person that was it doesn't wanna look themselves

39:58

in the mirror

39:59

i can often be a sign of like

40:02

the same

40:03

he didn't he wasn't honest with serious and so he does

40:05

him and honest with themselves as i can't look at a

40:08

look at the scar i was also

40:10

hundred i think for me for me question was like

40:12

coming to do with avoidance right like

40:15

it's maybe i didn't even want to

40:17

see the the idol or middle pretend it doesn't hurt

40:19

maybe if i ignore it it'll go away guess

40:22

i think the question is like what

40:24

your question that things like what would it take

40:26

for him to not want to be look

40:28

back at it again

40:31

or at least look in his own eyes fray it like

40:33

maybe yeah let's as another way great way to think about

40:35

i'd like it for the sake of avoiding the scar he

40:37

won't look himself

40:40

right now thought three it like that's

40:42

that's

40:43

one of the things that member re

40:46

is that some sort of scar

40:48

makes you not wanna

40:49

the yourself that can in

40:51

fact a bigger part of the three and also just

40:53

about insecurity and shame in general right sometimes

40:55

those prove ourselves that we're not proud of or ashamed

40:58

of same as so

41:00

much that we refused even to look at the things that we ought

41:02

to be proud of her that are good about us or whatever

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and

41:08

so the second reliance

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in the for alliances at the way it's phrase

41:14

traditionally at least impairments articulation

41:16

is the meaning and not the letter

41:19

and

41:21

we were going to interpret that and far

41:23

own practice is what with the passage

41:25

have you'd do rather than have you know

41:29

so if you quite as question to your own life your

41:31

own relationships what does it take us to

41:33

look at ourselves was attacked for her like himself

41:36

and what does the passage want us to do

41:38

the average wants us to be more vulnerable

41:41

then we are sending

41:43

that he know we

41:46

as in oregon

41:46

they shouldn't say is that vulnerability should be

41:48

like a yoga practice he should be trying to push

41:50

yourself that never risk hurting yourself

41:53

and harry arguably is doing

41:55

that ray like even setting a letter

41:57

to syria is syria risk but

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i think we want him to push himself

42:02

with the vulnerability maybe if you

42:04

caught his own reflection he

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would say

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you gotta say

42:09

i'm really think there's some

42:11

names i think

42:12

this passage of asking us to be a little bit more

42:14

vulnerable than we are what

42:16

are you thank you i mean i

42:19

think the way you phrased the question in the first step was

42:21

really great it is great way is would you ask was like

42:23

what would it take for harry to do this right and right

42:25

and right what is mister figures out

42:27

multiple for my wife

42:29

are looking away from mirrors that they ought

42:31

to be looking in because , the things that are

42:33

frightened of seeing some it's tricky though

42:35

because there's a scar on harrys hut right

42:37

there the source of pain that he does

42:39

not want to be faced with like

42:41

an active sorts of paint something that woke them up in the middle

42:43

of the night and act as

42:46

have made him like and you're all these other people

42:48

i can help him and , understand

42:50

why he doesn't wanna like high heat why he wanted

42:52

to go away i can you help someone who

42:55

are understandably want to look away from that pain

42:58

honey happened still see themselves

43:00

such a particular

43:03

that's right like every single person would need

43:05

a different thing to be able to see

43:07

the couldn't themselves so there's

43:09

no like

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hang on

43:12

one size fits all solution i guess maybe

43:14

when it wanted to do is is attached fast attention

43:17

to how to

43:19

to look away even from ourselves and and try

43:21

to ask people what happens yourself

43:24

furious i think is doing the right thing by not

43:27

over

43:27

carrying his concerns

43:29

while on the

43:30

road but i think sometimes sharing

43:32

a little that opens up the possibility

43:35

for others to share my

43:37

wonder if that's the thing ray is nick

43:39

start opening up to those people a

43:43

little bit rate like that reciprocity

43:45

of trust can often help people

43:48

feel sick

43:48

yeah can before and maybe related your first

43:50

response right which was like the road

43:53

is like a practice right like in

43:55

one of the what happens is if if we can be

43:57

created must be vulnerable to others then

44:00

they might let us look at them right

44:02

like the as part of being vulnerable is

44:05

allowing some an awesome look at me even if i want to look at myself

44:07

rights and if we can practice

44:09

out with caring and kindness

44:12

and embassy and thoughtfulness

44:14

and back and help people be seen as i can

44:16

see themselves they can be seen in their own us not

44:18

and ignoring that hurts but also recognizing

44:21

the strengthen their goodness

44:24

even in the places they don't want to recognize themselves

44:27

they'll be vulnerable as your answer again

44:29

yeah

44:31

to the third reliance in this is the kind of

44:33

tricky one it goes by the name the definitive

44:36

the not reinterpreted

44:38

for the purposes of our practice for nothing

44:40

about what is a deeper truth that lies underneath his

44:42

words is malleable words these fickle

44:44

words i can have multiple meanings what is the deeper

44:46

same as being pointed out here was a departure

44:49

passages strike as do a

44:51

lot of avoidance and this path asks

44:54

yeah

44:54

right right

44:55

there is no point in putting in the dream

44:58

was the dream is everywhere in this

45:01

that or even if you don't name the dream

45:03

he folded an arch my and later the side

45:06

right he that to see and

45:09

with that without glancing at his reflection

45:11

the just like avoidance on avoidance

45:13

avoidance

45:14

there's just avoiding a lot which could

45:16

point to like oh he should avoid things

45:19

but it also could point to like he's

45:22

got a lot

45:23

like this is a lot for a kid

45:25

this of her and other paragraph along

45:28

paragraph in this chapter where it's like harry

45:30

is used to pains and then it like lists

45:33

all the times he's than and team before

45:35

so and so i don't know it's

45:38

just a lot

45:39

the thing that maybe chooses passages

45:41

that i wanted to know what's going on with harry

45:44

that he won't like him says the mayor right

45:46

and i read that pretty quickly as as like that we are rising

45:49

like comes up a mere which is why has this passage but the conversation

45:51

we had so far i think kind of builds to

45:54

something what you're saying which is like the

45:56

because harry is such a

45:58

good kid and or

45:59

the you kid i think it's easy

46:02

to forget

46:03

how much heard an

46:05

injury and loss

46:07

just below the surface

46:10

right yeah i'm it always just is

46:12

always right there for him and because

46:14

he's such a cure on such a good kid it's easy to forget

46:16

that but rick berman sometimes

46:19

causes the profound or hidden meaning right and

46:21

it's that something is a deeper thing the hidden

46:23

thing was always right under

46:25

the surface for harry is all this loss

46:27

rights and it's and sense in which it's so

46:30

close to the surface if

46:32

you look for the surface that he looks for themselves right

46:34

even at picture himself will just remind him i

46:37

get scar on his forehead even though the small

46:39

scar hi so

46:41

much and it's is it is surfacing

46:44

now in it's a cute way because he feels

46:46

pain there by a

46:48

luxury of us as readers to dislike always

46:50

a happy kid most of the time his books and

46:52

he is i think that he actually does have happiness and

46:54

joy of his friends but there's so much

46:57

enemies this summer's enemies and i think for us to

46:59

like a lot of people that we're at war

47:01

everyday who might have the same

47:04

said about what our factors harry are

47:06

also often carrying a lot

47:08

and yeah there's something really important in

47:10

us

47:11

arguably like

47:13

trying to receive people for all the they are not just

47:15

for what they're interested

47:17

are willing to sell to others for fear

47:19

of being

47:20

he did we kurt or more or wounded

47:24

sometimes i'll look at someone i love

47:26

and be like oh you're thinking about

47:29

yeah

47:29

the sick person in your life

47:31

where your crease about something

47:34

then you don't know whether to bring it up

47:37

they might wanna talk about it or

47:39

not you know like those moments

47:41

where and am not sure what to do with

47:43

that but like there's just

47:45

there's always just so much pain under

47:48

what people are saying

47:50

but whenever you are so intuitively buddhist he

47:52

took us to our fourth step which is wisdom

47:55

over the rational thinking about experience

47:57

rather than like a lesson i instead of saying

47:59

love your neighbor

47:59

understanding what that means conceptually it means like

48:02

really ceiling and what is it's one of the experience of loving

48:04

your neighbor like and i think that

48:06

that example you just gave is an example

48:08

i think we've all had those moments where we can just see

48:10

someone we love because we know them well remembering

48:13

, that they're scared to say because

48:15

they don't want to bring down the room room they're

48:17

hesitant to bring up because they think maybe you

48:20

don't wanna hear about it and

48:22

you're scared to bring up because you're thinking was

48:24

are not thinking about it and it want to make him think about

48:26

his advice but as his advice

48:28

you both know

48:30

right and maybe just to take the risk and

48:32

say you are you ok or i've been thinking

48:34

about this right like yeah like somebody

48:36

like harry harrys never not thinking about his parents

48:38

even if it's not forefront of the mind you're

48:40

probably never wrong to bring it up and say hey

48:42

i care about this and i care about this party you and i

48:44

can look at all of you i can look at that

48:47

period of you as well as

48:49

the the great british player part of

48:51

you i can hold both those things are the same time

48:55

in fact when you feel it i think yeah

48:57

i felt that of my life and i feel like if

48:59

we're talking about experience and i think more often than not i

49:01

sell to say something cause i'm worried about

49:05

you earnest and ruining the moment

49:07

are making a socially awkward

49:09

i can't really remember com my life

49:11

where i have done that and i felt like

49:13

oh boy i that made it super awkward not shouldn't have

49:15

easily does a thing i hope you do

49:17

which is to

49:19

recognize what with after going on the room

49:22

thank you for this beautiful practice

49:24

i really loved it and everything

49:27

you've taught me i really appreciate

49:29

the way you can watch it is different from abraham

49:31

make traditions the night i have

49:33

said

49:35

we do this enough that it really works on my breathing

49:37

trains my brain processes a beautiful

49:39

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49:40

yeah i think like vulnerability to practice rights

49:42

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49:44

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they can be very hard to be vulnerable

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53:04

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53:09

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53:26

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53:29

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53:41

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53:43

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53:48

harry ron and hermione

53:50

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53:52

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53:54

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53:56

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53:56

yeah yeah regular event especially

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56:40

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56:42

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56:44

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56:46

says

56:47

wow all

56:48

i was delivered not by owls

56:51

the by you know brightly for

56:53

midst giant birds

56:56

that show am some of evidently tropical

56:58

location or who knows maybe it's serious as

57:00

if sending shop a bird city people off as sent

57:03

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57:06

there is a beautiful bird good

57:08

at had would job

57:10

and beloved of a hairy

57:12

and of the hogwarts crew and then these ostentatious

57:15

bird so up you can just tell had very little

57:18

bit jealous and even the best

57:20

of us have been there right

57:23

even a massive excess other things it's it's

57:25

a very human moment for this hour

57:28

very kind of recognizably

57:30

human moments this hour and so you

57:32

know jealousies normal and it's

57:35

and it's

57:36

the my things that make even

57:39

if it would you want a bus

57:40

a boy

57:41

that leaves and dudley stuff

57:43

like a one line joke for harry

57:46

in this chapter

57:48

about how his diet as and doing well

57:50

and shoot you know he's sneaking donuts

57:52

upstairs and i feel like

57:54

my grandma with my haircut like

57:56

i get it harry you think doubly spot

57:59

like again

57:59

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58:01

like i just and like tired

58:03

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deadly is definitely tired of hearing

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58:16

they can't change about themselves or

58:18

i could've changed my haircut but i did not want

58:20

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58:22

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58:23

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58:25

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58:35

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