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You want to do the movie . I mean you do whatever you want to do

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, it's your show .

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I can do whatever I want .

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It's my show , yeah do whatever you want , it's

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your show .

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Oh , it's my show .

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I don't think that's what you want to do .

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I don't want to do whatever I want .

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Wait , singing and dancing . I don't think you want to sing

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and dance .

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I've always told that story . Improv

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thing I ever did was Phyllis

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Brutchen and she said do whatever you want

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for two minutes . I was just like that's the end

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of the world . Welcome

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to Hate Watching with Dan and Tony . Let's start out

0:45

with a laugh . I'm Dan , I'm

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Tony . See , we're laughing

0:49

. You're supposed to keep laughing , so we're gonna start out with

0:51

a laugh , that's

0:55

called acting . It's almost like we're in

0:57

the movie that we're watching today . Oh

1:00

the movies . People start laughing

1:02

. Director , start laughing . Why

1:04

are you laughing ?

1:05

the movies .

1:05

People start laughing . Director start laughing . Why

1:08

are you laughing ? Because I'm laughing

1:10

.

1:10

I don't know .

1:14

Somebody tell me so on this show . We watched a movie . Last

1:17

week . We had watched the

1:19

Turning Based on the Turn

1:21

of the Screw . This week , great movie A movie

1:24

with Finn the Screw . This week Great

1:26

movie , a movie with Finn Wolfhard . This week Tony

1:28

picked another movie , but not really another

1:30

movie .

1:32

It's a similar . I have a theory , by

1:35

the way , and I'm going to save

1:37

it till the end so we can talk about everything , but

1:39

I have a theory that this

1:41

movie is a prequel to

1:44

the Turning . I

1:47

have a theory . What

1:49

movie is this ? Oh , this movie

1:52

is another fantastic

1:54

film based on the novella A

1:56

Turn of the Screw , and this is , of course , in

1:59

a Dark Place , starring

2:01

Lili Sobieski , and

2:03

oh , I forgot the other woman's name

2:05

, darn it other people she

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had a woman in this the other woman in

2:10

.

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It was , uh , one of the baratheons

2:12

in um game of thrones , oh

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yeah , no , she's had a , she's had a career .

2:17

You know she's done some stuff .

2:19

Yeah , she's good , um , yeah , good , yeah

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, I think it was 2004

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, 2006 .

2:25

Yeah , early , early aughts , is that

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what they say ?

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Yeah , just an

2:31

impenetrable hour and 39

2:33

minutes . Just a plodding

2:35

hour and 39 minutes .

2:37

Dan , did you watch this with commercials

2:39

?

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No , I paid 99 cents . You could rent this

2:42

on Amazon for 99 cents .

2:46

You made the right choice Because I'm going to , I'm gonna . I streamed it for free with

2:49

ads and every commercial

2:51

break . It was a struggle not to turn

2:53

it off , because it's a minute , a minute and a

2:55

half to two minutes of not watching the movie

2:57

and you're like , oh man , I really want to turn this

3:00

off . I need a .

3:02

I usually watch the movie on Thursday

3:04

and Friday .

3:05

I kind of watch a half an hour or

3:07

45 minutes .

3:10

This one I finished this morning . I still had

3:12

about 48 minutes

3:14

left this morning 48? .

3:17

You didn't even watch an hour the first two days

3:19

.

3:19

First two days , I couldn't even get through an hour of this movie

3:22

.

3:22

This movie makes you wish for Finn Wolfhard . First two days I couldn't even get through an hour .

3:24

Oh boy , that's not good at all . This movie makes you , makes you

3:26

wish for finn wolfhard I

3:29

, I would , oh boy that's

3:31

a tough that's a tough pill to swallow , dan

3:33

.

3:33

I don't know if I quite wish for

3:35

him , but I would say it's

3:37

. It would be a reprieve , it's

3:40

the best you're gonna get . Get Finn Wolfhard , take

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it .

3:45

This version did

3:49

a couple of things better . A couple of things

3:51

better .

3:51

It did .

3:52

Yeah , absolutely , because the

3:54

things this movie did better .

3:56

So if you didn't , watch last week .

3:57

Go back and watch last week . It's two hours

3:59

of your life , you're never getting back . So

4:03

basically the story is woman

4:05

goes to be the new nanny

4:07

or art therapy teacher

4:10

goes to

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take care of these two kids . We

4:15

find out that there was a old governess

4:17

nanny that has died , and then

4:19

also like a man , who may

4:21

or may not have been a gigantic problem , and

4:24

then possibly the two ghosts

4:26

of these dead people are ghosting and

4:29

perhaps possessing the children , perhaps

4:31

convincing the children to do bad things , maybe

4:34

not even existing , maybe yeah .

4:36

Who knows ? Pretty wide open

4:38

on the spectrum .

4:39

Yeah , so . So once

4:42

again , this will be like you know what we're going to do

4:44

we're not going to answer're gonna do we're not gonna answer any questions , we're

4:46

not gonna take a stance .

4:48

We refuse and

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I get from my understanding the book Is also

4:52

open ended , right ? So I guess they're

4:54

just trying to stay faithful . But

4:56

make a choice . Make a

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choice . It's a modern audience . Make a choice

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.

5:02

Modern audiences . Just they do not have

5:04

that bone in them that wants

5:06

to be conflicted and confused , where

5:08

they walk out of the theater going like what just

5:10

happened what , what did ? I watch somebody

5:13

tell me so this movie , what

5:15

it does better is okay

5:17

. It makes it seems

5:19

like she could be crazy .

5:21

I'm gonna say , uh , say yeah

5:23

, she is . Oh , you're saying she's she's

5:26

crazy . I think she's it does . I'm not saying the movie

5:28

answers that question . I'm saying , in my opinion

5:30

, yeah , she's not so you're going

5:33

with the main thing going on .

5:34

There is she's crazy . Yeah , I think this movie makes

5:36

that , postulates that and and

5:38

backs it up pretty well with with what happens is she's

5:41

crazy , and I mean

5:43

of course she's third act crazy

5:45

. We don't spend act one and two really

5:47

establishing that she's crazy .

5:51

We're just like we really make her act crazy . Well , you touch on it a

5:53

little because she has the swing set

5:55

dreams , yes , so

5:58

it does that , and so she's locked into

6:00

the house more .

6:01

So you believe that she's not going to

6:03

want to leave and she's not

6:05

a stable person who goes the

6:08

last one . She was a stable person who

6:10

would just .

6:11

Certainly seemed like it , and she made a pinky

6:13

promise . Can't break those . Those are

6:15

bonding .

6:16

Yes , she's stuck

6:18

there , so whatever happens . And then

6:20

the kids . While this one , the kids

6:23

are largely

6:25

irrelevant to the story .

6:27

Yeah , it turns out they're not a big deal at

6:30

all . All of the other , all

6:32

of them , the one other that we watched plus

6:34

the Haunting of Bly Manor the kids are pretty much

6:36

the focal point of the

6:38

weirdness that's happening In

6:40

this movie . Nope , nope , they

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almost do nothing .

6:44

They do almost nothing they

6:46

occasionally do a little weird thing that maybe draws

6:48

you in a direction or you know something

6:50

.

6:50

But not much

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. Yeah , don't worry about it .

6:54

They're definitely not being haunted like

6:56

or possessed that's what I'm looking for

6:59

absolutely not possessing this yeah , that we don't deal

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with that at all in this one and we really don't

7:03

give you a feeling that the ghosts are like

7:05

talking to them or really influencing

7:07

them consistently .

7:08

There's one moment in the movie that

7:10

I was like , oh , that could be right . And

7:12

it's when Flora is up late

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and the governess

7:17

comes in and she's like , hey , did you have a bad dream ? She's

7:19

like no , did you ? And then

7:22

when she leaves , flora looks over

7:24

in a direction and smiles

7:26

like laughs a little . I was like , oh , maybe she has a friend

7:29

, but we never do anything

7:31

like that again for the rest of the movie .

7:33

So I maybe I'm going crazy

7:35

maybe you're going crazy , um

7:37

, so that thing , you know .

7:39

So the movie had better kids , um

7:42

, I think it's finn wolfhard you

7:44

know what I mean saying that's better , that's a low

7:46

bar that they could not surpass

7:49

well , I mean these kids .

7:50

It's not that they're bad , it's just they're not doing

7:52

anything . Well , that's true , finn

7:54

.

7:55

Finn did a couple things like bang

7:57

a drum at someone he I mean

7:59

, he banged the shit out of that drum though

8:01

, okay , that was the scariest moment in the

8:03

in the universe .

8:04

And like when he made a pass at her , you were like , though , okay , that was the scariest moment in the in the universe and like when he made a pass at

8:06

her , you were like well , okay

8:08

, that's weird , you know , when the kid this thing

8:10

, I was like good for you , finny , go

8:12

get her what about when the kid

8:14

makes his move in this this ?

8:15

movie . Uh , well , this one's because

8:18

, again , finn wolfhard was at least

8:20

a teenager . This kid's definitely

8:23

10 , maybe 11 and

8:25

so when he does a little peekaboo , I

8:27

was . I was a little weirded out , but also

8:30

on board still , because I was like good for you

8:32

, kid , you gotta get what you get . You know

8:34

and I we'll talk about that when

8:36

we get there because there are some weird themes

8:38

in this movie that you know that

8:41

, yeah , that play into that . It's

8:43

not as out of the blue

8:45

that it probably should be .

8:47

Yeah uh , the music

8:49

in this one terrible

8:52

in a very different direction so weird , so

8:54

so , so weird .

8:55

The end credit song is like a weird

8:58

90s rock song , it felt

9:00

like like matrix style

9:02

like , and I was like , where

9:04

did this come from ? This has nothing to

9:06

do with anything . I just watched for 90

9:08

minutes , yeah , this this composer

9:10

was like I'm going for it . And then everyone

9:13

afterwards were like hold

9:15

my beer everybody , I'm going for it

9:17

and I'm sure they were like can

9:19

we do it again ? No , we don't . Do

9:21

we have any money ? No , all right . Print

9:23

it .

9:24

It's fine . Yeah , okay

9:26

, so

9:29

we start . Our girl , anna , is

9:31

an art teacher , an art therapy teacher

9:33

. So we do a lot of art therapy where we look

9:36

at a picture and we're like , oh , now we understand

9:38

what's going on with the kid . Oh , we put extra

9:40

people in the picture . That means there's ghosts

9:42

, or it just means they miss the people

9:44

. We don't know .

9:46

Who knows , don't think about it

9:48

too hard .

9:49

She's on the floor and there's broken

9:51

glass .

9:52

She's cleaning something maybe , and we're not

9:54

sure what's going on . We

9:56

miss the actual breaking or anything

9:59

like that . It's just her on the ground .

10:01

But it seems like she's like on the ground

10:03

.

10:04

She's having problems . It seems like she's like on the ground she's having problems .

10:06

She's yeah , she's having problems so the head

10:08

guy comes in there and

10:10

takes her to his office and

10:13

then he's like it's not working out , hand

10:15

on the on the knee and then

10:17

he rapes her I

10:20

mean , he's definitely I .

10:21

They don't tell you that he goes all the way . Sure , let me be clear , but he's

10:23

definitely . They don't tell you that he goes all the way . Sure , let me be clear

10:26

, but he's definitely

10:28

sexually harassing her at a

10:30

minimum . You know what I mean .

10:33

And we're to find out later that

10:35

she's kind of . She ends up being sort of haunted

10:37

by her younger self , who we sort of found

10:39

out , finds out was molested

10:41

as a kid , yeah , and

10:43

her candy apple got dirt on it , and

10:45

then the mom didn't believe her , I

10:47

guess yep and yep

10:50

it's .

10:51

It's a theme that I'm not super

10:54

comfortable with you know what I mean

10:56

like I don't , I'm , I get

10:58

all obviously as I

11:00

think you should , but it's should

11:02

, but it's hammered pretty hard

11:04

in the movie and then it kind

11:06

of branches into are the new

11:09

kids also being molested

11:11

? I don't know . So

11:23

we'll talk about is she gets

11:25

fired and then

11:27

they make their

11:29

move on her . Usually I feel

11:32

like and listen , I've , you know , I've thank

11:34

God , I've never been in this situation on either side

11:36

of it . But I feel like normally

11:39

they're like do you want to keep your job ? Then

11:41

let me fondle you , as opposed

11:43

to you're fired . Now

11:47

let's make out . I felt like that was a weird direction , but they both

11:49

do it .

11:50

They both do the same sort of thing and

11:52

it's yeah , I mean , if

11:56

it seems like they , they sort of imply

11:58

that she's bringing it on in a way

12:01

in a weird , weird way in

12:03

I all right , I'm gonna .

12:05

I won't talk about this too much because

12:08

I don't want to start rumors , but I

12:10

have a theory that this director is

12:12

completely in love with lily sobieski

12:14

, like there's some weird

12:16

, weird things that I felt that

12:18

didn't suit the story story

12:21

. But he was like

12:23

um , however , she's

12:26

very , um provocative

12:29

in the film and it kind

12:31

of felt like they were vilifying

12:33

. That to me like being

12:35

like not vilifying , but being like , well

12:38

, you know , if you're gonna dress like that

12:40

, you know things are gonna happen . Because before

12:42

that scene , when the headmaster

12:45

comes in , she's on the ground and

12:47

her legs are , she's wearing like stockings

12:49

and her legs are out of the table and he's like

12:51

checking her legs out and

12:53

then like I guess that's like

12:55

the green light , I don't know it was . It was weird .

12:57

I got a weird vibe from the whole thing so

13:00

you're , you're thinking that the director sort of

13:02

is male gazing on her like

13:04

in a weird way . That doesn't sort of fit with

13:06

what the writer was maybe trying to

13:08

say .

13:09

Yeah , and I think

13:11

that the movie , obviously the movie

13:13

is about that in a way . Yeah

13:15

, like sexualizing

13:18

her , yeah , like from

13:20

start to finish , right .

13:22

But I just it's just .

13:24

it just felt weird to me . It didn't feel like oh

13:27

, this is the story we're telling to

13:29

me . But maybe I'm wrong , maybe I just

13:31

didn't get it , maybe it's too artistic for me

13:33

.

13:33

Dan , it was not very artistic , okay

13:36

, and they .

13:38

They have a tendency to sort of maybe

13:41

not linger on her breasts , but oh

13:48

, sort of maybe not linger on her breasts , but oh , no , no , no , no , no , no , they linger , they linger

13:50

, they show them up , they're in every scene . Every time you see here , they are

13:52

in some way shape or form , front and center , okay

13:55

, and I it

13:57

made me uncomfortable that

13:59

I feel like that's hard to do

14:01

, okay , because I don't know it was . It was weird . There were a couple moments

14:03

where I was like , why , why , why are her ? I feel like that's hard to do . Okay , I don't know , it was

14:06

weird . There were a couple moments where I was like , why

14:08

, why are her boobs in my face right

14:10

now ? I don't understand .

14:12

And it would be like even just when she's like

14:14

in the kitchen making eggs or something , and

14:16

you'd just be like why am I

14:18

kind of fixating on her breasts

14:20

?

14:20

The eggs is actually a great point

14:22

, dan , because she's making the eggs

14:24

and she's kind of tossing them with

14:26

a spatula , as you do .

14:29

No , no , no , no Is it not a spatula , it's a

14:31

wooden spoon . It's a wooden spoon , okay

14:33

.

14:33

Let me tell you something .

14:34

I make eggs . Every day I make eggs

14:36

, and you know what I use . I use a spatula .

14:38

That's what you use on eggs .

14:41

That's why stupid , very ineffective

14:43

, and I gained a lot . I mean I gained . I

14:46

was very disrespectful of her cooking skills

14:49

when she was doing it with the spoon , I was like Good for you Dan

14:51

Take a stand .

14:52

You know , you got to stand

14:54

up to what you believe in , okay . So

14:56

, she's with a wooden spoon , which is even

14:58

weirder . But we're not for

15:00

the most part , we're not watching the eggs

15:03

, but we're in this mid shot

15:05

of her tossing the eggs , but

15:07

it's mostly just boobs . There's

15:09

no , I don't , there's no reason for it . Nobody

15:12

on screen is noticing

15:14

it . You know what I mean . Like if maybe

15:16

Miss Gross was

15:18

, you know , gazing upon

15:20

her , and that's why we're staring at her boobs

15:23

in this moment , like I can understand . Understand , it's motivated

15:25

I didn't feel like

15:27

it was motivated for the most part in

15:29

this movie and it's just like whoever's

15:31

behind the camera is just like focus

15:34

on the middle area , just yeah , just right there

15:36

, that's , that's good , that looks nice . Let's get

15:38

that shot get in there I

15:40

don't know and I could be wrong . I'm

15:42

not . I'm not throwing accusations , I'm

15:44

just saying this is how I felt while

15:46

watching the movie .

15:47

I am a person who doesn't

15:50

see the artifice of directing . I'm

15:52

not good at you know . It's like I could never direct

15:54

Because I'd be like , well , let's just set the camera

15:56

up here and everything will happen in front of it

15:58

, just go . And just go you

16:01

know , that's why I like live stuff and

16:05

go all right you know it's like . That's why I like live stuff and you know it's like set

16:07

up a camera . Stage work is nice , yeah , so when I notice things , that's

16:09

not a problem .

16:10

That's not good . You've done something

16:12

very wrong what is happening here ?

16:14

I , I , I , I don't know why she's

16:17

wearing like something like this , that's saying

16:19

this , and I'm like , and we're shooting it like

16:21

this . I'm like what is going on here ?

16:23

yeah , it's weird . It it's weird , it's a weird vibe . It's

16:25

a weird vibe . Maybe the whole

16:27

idea is he's just going for that sort of vibe

16:29

to like , make you uncomfortable . Maybe

16:31

he thinks it services the story

16:34

that he's telling . I'm not sure . Here's what I

16:36

will say is I read an interview

16:38

that he did and he has

16:41

never read the book , he's never read

16:43

the novella , and so he was just

16:45

the people that wrote the movie

16:47

have obviously read the novella , but he had

16:49

never read it . So the vibe is just

16:51

like whatever he felt like . Wow

16:53

, it's almost like he wanted so take that for what you will .

16:56

Maybe take a little time and do that .

16:59

In his defense . Here's what I'll say

17:01

. I did buy it this week and I

17:03

am 24 pages in and I have

17:05

read it for like two hours . It's

17:08

dense and it's hard

17:10

to get through , but I am determined

17:13

to do it by the time we meet again next week

17:15

I always remember we

17:17

we read um tale of two cities when

17:19

I was there ah , sure , yeah and I

17:22

remember reading that and you're like

17:24

ah , tale of Two Cities .

17:25

You know , tale of Two Cities . Everyone's like ah , tale

17:27

of Two Cities . I read it and I was like that's

17:29

the greatest book ever . Love this book . Oh

17:31

, okay , because it wasn't like this

17:34

dense , it was just story Story

17:36

story , story , story story . Things happen .

17:45

Story story the story . All right , yeah , I'm there . Well , don't read the Turning of the Screw , dan

17:48

, you're not gonna love it .

17:49

A lot of metaphor and a lot of environment

17:51

and feeling Run on sentences .

17:53

He does a sentence with like six commas

17:56

and that's too many commas

17:58

. I don't . Times were different back then

18:00

, I understand , but it's a lot of commas and it's

18:02

hard because the thoughts are broken up so

18:04

much and you're like I don't even know what this one sentence is and

18:06

then I have to reread it . It's

18:08

a whole thing , man .

18:10

Tony's got your dissect

18:13

. You know like you do in English .

18:14

I got my chart with the slides and that's

18:16

just per sentence .

18:19

So she goes home , the headmaster's

18:21

there looking at papers , he's looking at this thing . He's

18:23

like ah , he's found her a

18:25

job .

18:27

Now why .

18:28

Oh , to get rid of her , but he

18:30

fired her . Now he wants to really

18:33

get rid of her .

18:34

Because of the sex . Maybe he wants to throw

18:36

her a solid to really disappear

18:38

her To say like hey , thanks , thanks for

18:41

the handy , here's a job

18:43

. Yeah , it's

18:45

really weird , I don't understand it , but

18:48

it's fine .

18:49

So Anna goes to the big business

18:51

place , goes up the elevator

18:54

with the assistant , he

18:57

looks at her and he's like okay , you got the job

19:00

. Who's like this is the

19:02

brother of the dead parents of

19:04

the two kids ? Yeah , the uncle , he's

19:07

your classic . I want this off my

19:09

thing . You can't ever bother me . You're

19:12

on your own . I'm gonna send Mrs

19:14

Gross with you . She's . I

19:17

don't know why she was there she's .

19:19

So that's my biggest question mark

19:22

of the whole movie . He says that she's his

19:24

personal assistant , yeah

19:26

, and then he just sends her to the

19:28

cottage indefinitely , seems

19:31

like indefinitely Right who

19:34

was at the cottage while they were all

19:36

at the office , Because Flora was technically

19:38

home , oh well there was a little .

19:40

There's a housekeeper , at the beginning there

19:43

was a cook , there was a cook and , like in

19:46

a couple of scenes , there's also a driver , but

19:48

then at a certain point , in the movie they

19:50

all leave , they all

19:52

get in . They say this oh

19:54

, they actually say this .

19:56

I do not remember this at all .

19:57

They all hop in a car and

19:59

you're like who's hopping in the car ? And then in the scene

20:01

later they tell you oh , the servants

20:03

have all gone for the weekend .

20:06

Okay , all this takes place over

20:08

a weekend . Oh boy , I

20:10

guess I don't know .

20:13

Yeah , I think , yes , I do think everything happens over

20:15

I mean we have the first , because

20:17

I think Miles comes home on a Wednesday and I'm

20:19

assuming she gets there on a Monday .

20:21

Yeah , because she was supposed to come home on a Friday , but he

20:23

came early or something . I don't know yeah .

20:24

So I think this is a week

20:26

, I think this whole thing is a week .

20:29

Boy , she really unravels fast .

20:32

Yes , yes , yes , yes , it's unfortunate . So

20:35

she's good Contact mail in an emergency

20:37

. Here's a big fat salary

20:40

. Here's

20:42

a clothing allowance .

20:43

Go buy yourself some clothes and

20:46

then she buys the worst clothes

20:48

ever . They're all terrible

20:50

.

20:51

You would think she'd be buying some sort . I expected

20:53

there to be a point of appropriate clothes

20:55

versus inappropriate , some explanation

20:58

as to what that clothes budget meant . But it

21:00

doesn't mean anything . Nope

21:04

, doesn't mean nothing . Car picks her up . She sees

21:06

her childhood ghost standing there , or doesn't mean anything . Nope , doesn't mean nothing

21:08

. Car picks her up , she

21:10

sees her childhood ghost standing there , or doesn't see her . And then Mrs Gross

21:12

is with her . The nephew's

21:15

returning on Friday . The parents were killed in

21:17

a plane crash . They arrive

21:19

at the house , they get a tour of the house . She's

21:22

happy , she's like oh , my house . And

21:24

then the staff is also leaving . Friday . There's

21:27

a cook , sheila , and

21:29

then someone named oh wow , she had a name

21:31

.

21:31

I didn't even know she was in the movie write it down

21:33

, baby incredible she literally appears

21:35

.

21:35

I believe in about two scenes maybe three

21:37

all right , I think mrs gross's

21:39

name is emma , but we always call her mrs

21:42

gross . Yeah , yeah , she

21:44

. Then we have the first of the baths . She

21:47

takes the first of several

21:50

. Thankfully this is not an overhead

21:52

bath where we see dirty water . We just , oh

21:54

man , that water last week was so gross

21:56

and she went under .

21:57

She opened her eyes unbelievable . Yeah

21:59

no , this is like a nice bubble bath . It

22:01

looks wonderful . She's laughing

22:03

and acting drunk . She

22:05

spills so

22:07

much water out of the tub irresponsible

22:10

, it doesn't care like doesn't care

22:13

it's hilarious , I don't , yeah , I don't know , I don't

22:15

know what's going on in this scene . I

22:17

again the vibe is

22:19

weird and I feel like it's just the director

22:21

is like well , you're naked in a bath

22:23

, let's just let's giggle and have some fun

22:25

, babe , and action .

22:28

She had one hour to freshen up and she takes

22:30

a bath , yeah . And

22:33

so when she finally goes out to

22:35

see Mrs Gross , I

22:38

was like , oh man , she's going to get . You know , she's going

22:40

to be there an hour and a half . Gross is going to

22:42

give her some crap , just like what the hell

22:44

. But no , that tension , nothing's

22:46

fine .

22:47

No tension , no tension whatsoever . Yeah

22:49

, we don't need it .

22:50

You know these movies . That's the thing about

22:52

both these movies they never build up any tension

22:54

.

22:55

No Well , you don't need tension in

22:57

a horror movie , you're

23:01

wrong Dan . I am wrong .

23:02

That's true . I generally am wrong . Then

23:05

she thanks Mrs Gross for the

23:08

bathroom stuff , because I guess the bubble baths

23:10

she used Mrs Gross put

23:12

in there for her and she's all like

23:14

.

23:16

Thank you for doing that .

23:18

Yeah , okay , good , yeah , I

23:20

did that for you . What is happening

23:22

?

23:24

What do you mean ?

23:25

it's weird uh , flora

23:27

comes in , she's cute . They

23:29

say let's go have some fun . Uh

23:32

, and then flora goes and starts being a little

23:34

weird with dolls . We have a couple , yeah

23:36

like a couple scenes with her being weird with

23:38

dolls . Maybe one scene she puts them on

23:40

the couch scene and then she drowns a doll at the end

23:42

scene . Once again

23:44

, any director that says okay

23:47

, little girl interact weirdly with dolls

23:49

.

23:50

Wrong movie unless you're really going to make that girl

23:52

a freak . Yep , nope , it's

23:55

just a we . I don't understand anything

23:58

. I don't understand anything . How about that ?

24:00

It's bizarre People love

24:02

dolls as some sort of surrogate

24:04

for something , but then they don't . The people that

24:06

love dolls for a surrogate of something never

24:08

lay out what they're being a surrogate for and never

24:11

have them have any effect sure

24:13

, sure which exhausts us . I

24:19

wrote a word I cannot read .

24:21

Oh , what is it ?

24:23

a context clues as

24:25

the asd . Oh , he

24:27

asks her about mrs jessel , maybe

24:30

. Or we find out about mrs jessel , who was

24:32

the old . Oh , sure , thanks , we

24:34

find that name . I don't know . Miles

24:36

is coming . She puts floor

24:38

to bed then after we

24:40

do art already no , we haven't

24:42

done any art yet okay , all right . Puts

24:45

floor to bed for the very first . I don't think we

24:47

did any art . I just wrote she

24:49

was being weird with dolls . I don't think we did art

24:51

. Miles is coming , not yet . Puts

24:54

floor to bed . And then we have the weird dinner

24:56

with Mrs Gross and she's all like

24:58

Mrs Gross , we should be friends

25:00

and friends . And then she's like let us be acquaintances

25:03

. And then it's really

25:05

weird what's happening .

25:08

But spoilers there's

25:10

a lot of lesbian subtext between

25:12

the two of them and then some

25:15

not subtext , and then it stops being subtext

25:17

, and then just text . Is that the opposite

25:19

of subtext ?

25:21

we go straight to text . At a certain point she

25:24

asks who's Mrs Jessel ? And she says your predecessor

25:27

.

25:28

I do love how they say that word predecessor

25:31

instead of predecessor , which is what

25:33

I say . Oh , I think they're both right .

25:36

That night , of course , she wakes up and wanders the

25:38

halls because there's whispering and clumps

25:40

and things . She sees Flora A

25:43

lot of whispering . You're having a nightmare

25:45

and then flora's all like smiley .

25:47

I'm happy , I'm happy yeah

25:49

, and then she leaves and

25:51

flora lays down , but then turns

25:53

her head all the way around and smiles

25:56

at somebody , right ?

25:57

I don't remember I didn't , I probably was writing at that

25:59

point . I mean , I wrote , I wrote it down .

26:01

I have proof of it . But this is the

26:04

one time in the movie that I was like oh she

26:06

sees a ghost .

26:07

But that's it , and then never again .

26:09

Does she ? It doesn't seem like it . No

26:12

, it seems like I made this up .

26:14

Well , it starts snowing , so we're going to have snow the rest

26:16

of the movie .

26:18

She has breakfast with Mrs Gross .

26:20

We get the letter from Miles School he was expelled

26:23

. And

26:26

then we get the letter from Miles' school he was expelled . And then Mrs Gross is all like that's your problem now that's all you .

26:28

All you like , don't ? You can't tell the uncle

26:30

like you have to deal with it . Here's

26:32

a letter that's literally addressed

26:35

to the uncle . But you should open it

26:37

, which is a federal crime .

26:39

But please do it it's

26:42

quite weird , you know they're

26:44

trying to set up , like this weird power structure

26:47

where , like you're in charge of everything

26:49

. Yeah , and you're like why

26:51

would she be in charge of everything ?

26:53

Nobody knows Nobody

26:55

knows .

26:58

So she's all like let's go see

27:00

Miles . So they drive to Miles . So

27:02

once again , now the children are not trapped

27:05

there , they can just leave freely . Yeah , they can

27:07

do whatever they want . We got that tension , the tension

27:09

of , like Flora , not being able to leave

27:11

off the table . We're not going to do that

27:13

.

27:14

No , no , no , that's too much . Too much

27:16

to do .

27:18

On the trip to see Miles she asks , miss

27:20

Gross , is Miles bad ? And

27:22

then she's just like they're strange children

27:25

. Were they strange children

27:27

?

27:27

Not really . I didn't

27:29

get any strange vibes from them . To be

27:31

honest with you , I don't know .

27:33

They seem pretty normal At the school

27:35

. We find out that he's a bad influence

27:37

. What does ?

27:39

that mean I don't know . Yeah

27:42

, I

27:47

didn't like at least in in . Was it the turning that he fought somebody ?

27:49

I think he yeah I think he beat up something like that .

27:50

Like at least that makes sense . But he literally was just

27:52

like he's a bad influence on the kids

27:54

, like what do you mean ? He's

27:57

being weird around the kids , and so

27:59

you know there's too much of

28:01

a weirdo , we're gonna kick him out of school but

28:03

I mean he actually that was one that was one of the

28:06

best .

28:06

One of the only good lines in the movie is the dude was

28:08

like we got a bunch of rich kids here

28:10

and we got to keep it going . So if

28:12

you're a problem , you just you're gone

28:14

.

28:14

You're just out immediately . We don't

28:16

care , we don't care about anything

28:18

, we're not going to help you . You

28:25

just , you just gotta go . You're rocking the boat , you're

28:27

out of the boat . You're like , listen , yeah , it's all probably from

28:29

donations anyhow . So like we need those , you gotta get

28:31

out donations no , they keep the school ahead right .

28:33

No , they charge evidence . It's a rich guy

28:35

school rich kids ?

28:36

yeah , isn't that how they do schools ?

28:37

I don't know they do kids schools you pay tuition

28:40

.

28:41

Tuition donation it's the same

28:43

thing . Well , you're paying for your kid to go to school

28:45

Donation very different thing . Lori Loughlin

28:47

went to jail right for paying for her

28:49

kid to go to school . So

28:52

in that , tuition guys , come on

28:54

.

28:54

I don't think that's how it works . Here

28:58

comes Miles . Oh

29:00

, this is his third expulsion .

29:03

Right , which is weird .

29:06

Yeah , bad influence . Tragic flirt gives

29:08

someone a drawing .

29:10

At what point do people just stop letting you into

29:12

schools ? Like oh

29:15

you've been expelled twice , but please come to my

29:17

rich person's school , where we have no sympathy

29:19

for you . That doesn't make any sense to me . Oh no , they'll

29:21

always take you If you pay them

29:23

money . Yeah , if you pay them money .

29:25

But tuition to me ?

29:25

Oh no , they'll always take you If you pay them money .

29:26

Yeah , if you pay them money , but tuition , not donations . Okay , got it . Yes , tuition , you give donations . They're

29:28

like who are ? You oh yeah , thank you for the donation . We

29:31

don't want your kid .

29:33

We don't want your child .

29:34

Sorry , here comes

29:36

Miles , miles and Flora , same

29:38

height . Oh okay , that's

29:41

weird .

29:41

Yeah , are they twins ? Are they the same

29:43

age ? No , there's three .

29:44

No , it's like two or three years of difference . Yeah

29:47

.

29:47

Because she hasn't gone .

29:47

She's not going to school .

29:49

That's true , I guess I just thought maybe there weren't girl

29:51

schools .

29:52

you know he went to an all-boys school .

29:53

I don't know they

30:03

don't have dude , I don't know , I don't know where

30:06

we are . We're probably in Toronto

30:08

or one of those places . Ah , Toronto

30:10

.

30:13

He apologizes to her . They

30:15

ride . She falls asleep . She

30:17

dreams of a candy apple girl , and

30:20

then she has another dream where she can't make

30:22

miles up . This is called foreshadowing

30:24

. He's going to die . Wake up , you're

30:27

dead . Wake up .

30:30

I was like wow , they're killing Miles early in this episode

30:33

. Nope , he's only in the movie for three minutes and

30:35

they just kill him off . That'd be fun , it'd

30:37

be , different , surprising . Why not , good

30:39

for you , try something ?

30:47

Mix it up , gotta deal with things . Uh no , they get home . Oh no , they . They wake her up there like

30:49

she's like tell me about miss jessel . And then mrs gross is like she

30:51

was good , but she drowned

30:54

. The kids found her , she was pregnant

30:56

and then , yeah , wait what ?

30:58

it's a lot of , a lot of info , a lot of yeah

31:00

she was pregnant .

31:02

So the kids are disturbed , the kids disturbed

31:04

and she's all like but

31:08

please stay , Please stay . And

31:10

her big response is sure

31:13

Sure , sure , I'll

31:15

do it . Sure , you know how I can get Shannon

31:18

to try to punch me . She

31:20

asked me . She asked me a question , sure , yeah

31:22

?

31:23

sure , sure . Yeah , I get yelled

31:25

at a lot too . I'm not gonna lie , but I say

31:27

I feel like I say sure a lot , because it's

31:29

my uh , I'll do it , but I don't like want

31:31

to do it . You know what I mean ?

31:32

that's exactly what sure means that

31:34

is not the answer anyone's looking

31:37

for no ? No , it sure isn't and

31:39

then she's like that . Mrs gross

31:41

is like thank you , this is the point

31:44

. The whole staff leave . Now

31:46

we start the art therapy as soon as the staff is gone

31:48

. Art therapy .

31:50

So I think we do art before

31:53

Dan , because they do the finger painting

31:55

and Flora is playing with the

31:57

dolls and she doesn't want to finger paint , Do

31:59

you ? Remember this oh okay , sure , and

32:01

it's just my favorite part of the movie .

32:03

Oh , sorry , I have to talk about it . I almost

32:06

missed your favorite part of the thing .

32:07

It was , it would have been a tragedy . I would have brought it up at

32:09

the end either way . But listen to this . So

32:11

anna is doing

32:13

finger paint and she's just covered in paint

32:16

. Right , her hands are just covered . She's painting floors

32:18

, playing with her dolls over here . Oh

32:20

my god , she's so cute . You

32:22

just got your sweetest little pup little

32:24

face . So she's playing

32:27

with these dolls and anna's

32:29

like do you want to come finger paint ? And flora's

32:31

like no , it's not ladylike

32:33

. Oh man , I don't remember that scene . You

32:35

remember this ? I ?

32:36

must have paused it , ladylike , I must have

32:38

paused it . And then it jumped like 20 seconds , because

32:40

it does that on amazon of course , it

32:43

does nothing .

32:43

Nothing , none of these streaming sites work the way

32:46

they're supposed to . Okay , okay

32:49

, it's not lazy like wow , that never

32:51

comes up again , okay and it gets

32:53

mad and she starts going

32:55

who told you that ? Who told

32:57

you that ? Flora , who said that to

32:59

you ? And then we just cut away .

33:02

Oh , I don't know what it means .

33:04

I don't know . It doesn't seem to come back ever

33:06

, because then in the next , next time we see art

33:08

, floor is just like I love art , let's do art

33:10

. I have no idea

33:13

what this scene is , but she gets mad

33:15

and she's like personally offended that

33:17

someone said art isn't ladylike , and

33:20

I don't know . I want to see that movie

33:22

.

33:24

So Mrs Gross and Anna

33:26

, we see them , sort of the love connection

33:28

is happening .

33:29

Oh yeah , it's building . Oh yeah

33:32

, they like each other . I

33:34

don't know why .

33:37

Hot older lady , hot younger

33:39

lady . That's how it happens .

33:41

Sure , I guess , yeah , I guess , that's all you need . Good

33:43

for you .

33:49

Now we sort of go into like we sort of social art . We sort of show the kids running around

33:52

, they're playing in the snow , they build the snowman , they kill the snowman

33:54

, they run off , and then she's all like wait

33:56

, wait for me and

33:59

she is so much slower than the

34:01

children .

34:02

It it's so weird .

34:04

You have nephews and nieces and things I

34:06

do . Are they all much faster ? If

34:09

they were to run on a field they would just be like stop

34:13

, I'm not even a fast guy

34:15

, right , let's be clear .

34:16

I'm a big guy , I lumber , but

34:18

their legs are so short , dan

34:21

, that I can take two long steps

34:23

, and that's ten steps for them . So

34:25

I am faster than them , at least for now

34:27

, and one of them is like 11 or 12

34:30

.

34:30

Oh yeah . So you know , yeah , when they get

34:32

to be Finn Wolfhards , you're

34:35

dead .

34:35

When his legs are almost as long as mine

34:37

and he's skinny and quick and agile . Yeah

34:39

, they're gonna demolish me Absolutely , but

34:41

these are little kids , little kids

34:43

with tiny little legs just shuffling along

34:46

in the snow . Not a chance

34:48

, unbelievable not a chance . Well

34:50

, maybe she does to be fair , she

34:52

kind of moves like an ogre . Did

34:55

you notice that in this movie ?

34:57

when she's trying to move quickly

34:59

like an ogre . No , tony , I

35:01

did not notice her ogre movements

35:03

.

35:04

Well , you probably should have paid more attention , because

35:06

when she's trying to move fast outside

35:08

she hunches her back a little and

35:10

sticks out her neck and she kind of

35:12

waddles . Yeah

35:15

, she's got an ogre sway

35:17

to her and I just found that interesting . I don't know if it was a

35:19

character choice , or maybe that's

35:21

just how she tries to move quickly , I don't know

35:23

.

35:24

So , or maybe that's just how she tries to move quickly

35:26

, I don't know . So

35:29

Flora has asthma , of course , which , whatever that's your favorite trope

35:32

in the world . No comment

35:34

. They get to the pond

35:36

, she starts hearing whispering and

35:39

they sort of leave the pond and the kids go

35:41

back by the house and they find a rat

35:44

that's frozen and

35:50

later .

35:51

I think the implication is Miles stomps the rat . Oh okay , I

35:53

didn't get that .

35:54

He's sort of stomping around it , and that's the equivalent

35:56

of the koi fish they stomped in

35:58

the first movie .

36:00

Nothing should suffer . Yeah

36:02

yeah . The sequel to this movie she sees in the window she sees

36:04

Should Suffer , yeah yeah , the sequel to this movie .

36:05

Yep , she sees in the window . She sees a hanging guy

36:07

.

36:11

Oh yeah , which is Quint .

36:13

Yeah , she passes out . They

36:15

bring her inside . They put her in a bed

36:17

, does she ?

36:18

pass out , or does she just lay down very

36:20

gently , because this was a

36:22

weird pass out ? I

36:24

don't know if you noticed this . She doesn't thud at all , she just like

36:26

floats down and then

36:28

is just there .

36:29

It was really weird . I don't know how they did it she probably loses

36:31

consciousness .

36:35

I would love to watch you lose consciousness like that .

36:38

She slowly toppled down

36:40

my consciousness is slipping from my

36:42

body . I can't

36:44

hold on . So , mrs

36:46

Gross , they brought her inside somehow . I

36:48

don't know how . Two tiny kids

36:50

and Mrs Gross , who's Well , the ghosts

36:53

helped Leely's much bigger

36:55

than Mrs Gross .

36:57

All three of them . She's bigger than all three put together and

36:59

I don't mean that in a bad way , Just

37:02

physically she's bigger than them .

37:03

Putting a hand on the forehead

37:05

gives her a valium . Then

37:08

she has weird symbolic dreams , which includes

37:10

mask people , and I'm like , oh

37:12

, where are the mask people going to come in later ? Never

37:15

.

37:15

They're not .

37:16

I mean , Miles makes one mask , but we

37:18

never see the mask people again .

37:20

Yeah , I don't know .

37:26

I don't have an answer for you once again . She's wandering the halls at night

37:29

like you do . When you're passing out , she finds a handprint on a window

37:31

. Mrs gross is there right behind him . What are

37:33

you doing ? And she's like someone

37:35

was here and mrs gross is like I was

37:37

here I put my hand there right

37:40

what now why why

37:42

? Mrs gross doesn't ? Mrs Gross supposedly

37:44

doesn't believe in the ghosts ? Right , right

37:46

, correct . Why would she be making

37:49

up stories about ghost

37:51

signs to try to invalidate

37:53

the ghost belief ?

37:55

I don't know . I don't understand

37:57

any of this . I thought she

37:59

was lying at first and I thought she was

38:02

covering because she knew about the ghosts

38:04

but didn't want Anna to know about

38:06

the ghosts because she's in love with one of the ghosts

38:08

.

38:08

That's what I thought was going to happen , but that

38:11

doesn't .

38:11

Spoiler alert that doesn't happen . She

38:14

never believes in the ghost . They're probably not

38:16

real . I don't know why there's a

38:18

handprint on the window Because of the

38:20

ghost .

38:22

Because of the ghost .

38:24

Okay , crazy .

38:25

What's the solution ? Take a bath . Taking

38:28

a bath , I mean , it's the answer to everything

38:30

, dan .

38:30

Just take off your clothes , get in the bath , All

38:32

right .

38:34

Miles . They're playing hide and seek . Miles

38:36

does the backtracking and

38:38

then he goes off to the barn

38:40

and then starts smudging shit

38:42

on his face . Yeah , why

38:44

? Flora goes to the old chapel , which

38:47

we never see again . She gets freaked out , runs

38:50

back out there we hear

38:52

a scream , what's-her-name ? Jumps

38:54

out of the bath , puts on the robe that shows

38:56

her boobs .

38:58

Not just her boobs . It's open to her

39:00

navel . That's what you call a belly button right

39:02

you could . It's

39:05

the to her navel . That's what you call a belly button right you could . It's the deepest V you'll

39:07

ever see . It just covers half

39:10

her boob and goes all the way

39:12

down past her belly button . There's

39:15

no reason for that . No reason whatsoever

39:17

. Nobody wears a robe that open . That's

39:19

kind of the opposite of the point of a robe .

39:24

Miles is now wearing a hood and

39:26

has a weapon and is like I am

39:28

death .

39:29

I'm here to kill you . Yeah

39:31

, he's reaping her . I don't , I don't

39:33

understand . It's so . It's

39:36

so out of character for the rest of the movie

39:38

and it's just bizarre .

39:40

I don't know it's like we want to follow the rest

39:42

of this movie . We're not going to follow the rest of this

39:44

movie . We're not gonna see the rest of this movie , we're just gonna keep

39:47

going weird stuff uh even like I , I don't even .

39:49

Yeah , I got nothing . Even if it was Peter Quint , there'd be

39:51

no reason for Quint to do that . That's

39:53

not a thing . So I got nothing

39:55

kids playing .

39:58

You know , didn't you dress up as the grim reaper and try

40:00

and read all of your all

40:02

?

40:02

the time , and I would kill my friends

40:04

and gather their souls . That's

40:06

what you do as a kid Sick twisted kids

40:08

.

40:09

They go down there and Mrs Gross and

40:11

her and they stop them , stop

40:14

them . She tries to sleep the next

40:16

night Footsteps . Then there's

40:18

a night storm . Flora comes to her bed

40:20

. We see more side

40:23

boob in this , like when Flora comes to her

40:25

bed . It's like weird .

40:30

I wrote director loves this robe . That's

40:33

what I'm saying , man . It's a weird vibe . I don't

40:35

care what you tell me . It's a weird vibe

40:37

. It makes me

40:39

uncomfortable .

40:40

A lot of creepy directors out there in the world , for

40:43

sure . Oh , this is

40:45

when Anna makes the eggs . Mrs

40:47

Gross says there's more storms coming

40:49

, the kid's happy , they're

40:51

doing art . The art is doing it . Oh

40:53

, she's like . Oh , the kids are happy , the art

40:55

is fixing them . Sure

40:57

, yeah , yeah , that's great

41:00

. So we get to back there . Mild

41:02

is now bored with the art . Immediately

41:05

, immediately , smears out the snowman

41:07

.

41:10

I don't understand the emotional

41:12

ride we're taking .

41:14

Just to be very clear this

41:16

is the emotional ride , tony . It's a roller

41:19

coaster Up down , up down

41:21

. I love roller coasters .

41:23

I don't feel like we're getting the middle

41:25

of the roller coaster you know what I mean Like

41:27

we're just teleporting to points

41:29

without taking the ride . I

41:31

would love to go on that ride , but we're not

41:33

doing that .

41:34

Well , we never spend enough time in a scene with characters

41:37

to see them sort of go do something .

41:40

Unless Lily's boobs are on show , and then we

41:42

spend a lot of time in that scene , gotta

41:44

show something .

41:46

So then she's like okay , now we're going

41:48

to make masks . She

41:50

goes to the kitchen to get mask supplies . Boom

41:52

, there's Peter Quint .

41:56

Yeah , it's the weirdest ghost

41:58

in the world . He's like half

42:00

pirate , half just like insane

42:03

asylum type of like not in

42:05

real life , but like when you go to a

42:08

haunted mansion and it's

42:10

those guys behind the cage and they're

42:12

like wow , wow , wow , wow , wow . That's what

42:14

it reminds me of . It's so terrible , it's

42:16

super weird .

42:17

It's so fakey . So she gets

42:19

a knife and it goes out there

42:21

and she's

42:25

staking around and Miss Gross goes out there

42:27

and is like whoa , whoa , whoa , slow your

42:29

roll , Slow your roll , Whoa , whoa , whoa , why do you have a knife ? And

42:32

says what's wrong with you ? She's

42:35

going crazy .

42:37

And the answer is nothing , and I'm

42:39

going to make love to you in a few scenes , so it's

42:41

fine , yep .

42:43

Mrs Gross is like okay

42:45

, i'm'm gonna take the kids , we're gonna go visit some graves , that's what they need

42:47

right now . Yeah , go

42:50

take her from ice cream . You know she's being

42:52

crazy , graveyard , graveyard

42:54

. Let's keep the tone . Keep the

42:56

tone in the appropriate thing for a bunch of young

42:59

kids that have been thrown out of school

43:01

and had everybody killed , grave

43:03

time graveyard .

43:05

Now it's good , man . Have you

43:07

ever been to a graveyard ? I'm

43:09

, I've been to like a , a

43:11

nice one , you know , like a burial

43:13

ground is what I would call it , more than like a grave

43:16

. Because when I think of graveyard I think of like spooky

43:18

, not exactly like you know , built

43:20

by the city , just I don't know .

43:22

But I mean , I've been to in

43:25

your life . Have you spent a lot of time in

43:27

graveyard ? A lot of time ?

43:28

I don't know about a lot you know , maybe three

43:31

, four weeks tops I mean , you

43:33

know , with this I've .

43:34

You know , I went to hollywood forever one time when

43:36

I was doing like a photo shoot for some of my

43:38

dolls done the movies they do

43:40

at hollywood forever .

43:41

No , it's always . That's cool , it's a crowded , it's cool . People they do at hollywood

43:43

forever . No , that's cool , it's crowded . It seems like people they do like horror

43:45

movies on a blow-up screen

43:48

over there . It's pretty cool yeah , you go

43:50

.

43:50

I've been to like uh tourist

43:52

attraction graveyards , but I've never I've

43:54

never been to real graveyards as graveyards

43:56

where you're like , you know things you

43:58

like , go see the dead person . I've never

44:00

done ?

44:01

oh , okay , I have , I have done that . But

44:03

uh , like my grandparents have a , what's

44:06

that it's like ? Is it called a mausoleum ? Is that what those

44:08

are called ? Like they're in a in a structure

44:10

. Yeah , just on the wall .

44:12

So , if you know , we visited that and stuff I

44:14

mean , do they make you go there every year when

44:16

you're nine ?

44:16

no , not every year , but we've .

44:18

We've been there , so you've been there , okay , but it's not spooky , it's just

44:20

sort of like it's sort of like it's not spooky , it's just sort of like

44:22

it's sort of like it's not spooky , it's just kind

44:24

of depressing .

44:25

It's just , you know , just

44:27

surrounded by people that you know aren't

44:29

here anymore . It's , it's weird .

44:30

Okay

44:33

, um , okay . So it takes the kids . You

44:36

want to talk about the scene that , while the kids , while

44:38

everyone's gone , what does she ? I ?

44:41

don't know what does who do ?

44:44

Anna .

44:45

I don't remember what does she do ?

44:47

She goes into Mrs Gross' room , fondles

44:50

her violin and

44:52

then goes to her super

44:55

, super sexy underwear drawer touches

44:57

and moves all of her underwear .

44:59

Yeah , it's

45:01

. I don't know . I'm

45:06

a little lost for words from being

45:08

from being honest , I so , as

45:12

a whole , I just don't get it , Dan

45:14

. I don't understand the message

45:16

we're trying to tell . Right , so she is

45:18

, and now I'm going to touch on

45:20

things that haven't happened in the movie yet . So I apologize

45:23

but we never do that . Yeah

45:25

Right , no , no , no . We like to stay right , linear

45:27

, we're very linear people . So

45:30

she's molested as a child Awful

45:32

, terrible . She's still haunted by it as

45:34

an adult . She's also harassed as

45:36

an adult , which can't help . And

45:39

then . But then she's also

45:41

creeping on other people . So are

45:44

we saying , because

45:46

she had that trauma in the past , that's

45:48

why she's messed up . And

45:52

then she like Because then her and Miss Gross have

45:55

what I think is a consensual

45:57

relationship , I think . But

45:59

she's also not into it at

46:02

all in that scene , like her face and maybe this is Lili

46:04

, I don't know , but her face is like I don't like this . But she's also not into it at all . In that scene , like her face and maybe this is Lili , I don't know but her face is like

46:06

I don't like this , but she's doing

46:08

it . I just

46:10

don't . And is she

46:12

diddling the children ? Because

46:15

they then think that she's the monster

46:18

? And I was like wait , is she doing ? I

46:20

don't get it .

46:22

These kids did not react in

46:26

a way that I would think that they were being molested

46:28

.

46:28

Okay , either do I , until that last

46:31

scene where they're like you're a monster , you're

46:33

a monster . When was she a monster ? I

46:36

don't get it .

46:37

They made her do art . People don't

46:40

like her . You're right about that , you're right

46:42

about that . No , thanks everybody

46:44

, I don't like her , you're right about that . People don't like Doreen , you're right about

46:47

that . No thanks , everybody , I don't know , so then they

46:49

come back and then

46:51

she's like I

46:55

saw this person . And then she explains

46:57

him to Mrs Gross and she's all like , yeah

47:00

, this Peter Quint .

47:00

And then she's all like yeah , I know him exactly . I

47:02

know him any day of the week .

47:04

Why are you gaslighting me ? I'm seeing a person I've

47:06

never seen before .

47:10

And I just described you so well that you knew exactly who it was . But

47:12

you're just telling me I made this up . Doesn't

47:14

make a lot of sense , does it , Dan ? Doesn't make any

47:16

sense . That's why my theory

47:18

of her hiding the ghosts , Miss

47:21

Gross , pretending they don't exist even though

47:23

she knows they exist , is perfect

47:25

. But that's not what we're doing here .

47:27

Yeah

47:31

, we see some more of the art

47:33

. There's bad guys in the art

47:35

. Quint is in the art , mrs

47:37

Jetzel's in the art .

47:39

Okay .

47:40

Yeah , now we do a

47:42

bunch of memories . We find out that Anna

47:44

had problems in the park . It

47:46

happened to me . She

47:49

gives this speech . It happened to me . I

47:51

have to protect the children . And

47:54

then she says you love Quint

47:56

. And she's like I did not love Quint , I

47:59

love Mrs Jessel . So we're like , oh

48:01

, lesbianism

48:04

.

48:05

Ooh , Wow , that's 2006

48:07

. That probably was a little bit of you

48:09

know whoa , I don't know . I

48:12

don't remember that that's almost 20 years ago

48:14

. I don't remember that . I don't remember anything .

48:15

I don't remember anything either . It's nighttime

48:18

. Flora's crying , okay . Next

48:22

day kids are walking , anna

48:25

follows them and there's sort of this spooky tree

48:27

that she sort of like spooky

48:30

trees area . She's obsessing

48:32

on and

48:34

we come back . These are intercut . Mrs

48:36

Gross is fondling her violin and

48:39

she strips down , puts on a robe

48:42

and then does

48:45

a crazy dance and then does a crazy dance , and

48:47

then she pleasures herself .

48:49

She does like a possessed by

48:51

a ghost dance . She is spinning so

48:53

fast in this room . I don't

48:56

understand what's happening , but she is like

48:58

spinning all over the place and

49:00

just whipping her body around , and then she

49:02

lays down and , you know , gets

49:04

it on .

49:06

And I was just like what Is this the

49:08

?

49:08

movie we've been watching . No

49:11

, it's not the movie we've been watching

49:13

, Dan . I don't know what's happening

49:15

. I have no idea .

49:20

Anna finally finds Flora . While all this is

49:22

going on , miles boos her . Boo

49:24

, he boos her . Yeah , he boos

49:26

her .

49:27

Yeah , it's a good move . I appreciate

49:29

that .

49:30

And now Anna can see

49:32

Quint and Jessel on

49:34

the island .

49:36

But they're just chilling .

49:38

They're just chilling .

49:39

They're not really doing it . So what's weird is she

49:41

then starts being like they're coming

49:43

for the children , they're coming for the children , they're coming for the

49:45

children , but they haven't come

49:47

for anyone . The only thing that's happened

49:50

is they've kind

49:52

of stood and watched Anna and

49:55

then they whisper to Anna , come

49:57

with me oh , is that what they're saying ?

50:00

Whenever there's whispering , I don't take that

50:02

as dialogue .

50:02

I had to turn on , and I'm against

50:05

this generally . I had to turn on the subtitles because

50:07

the first time it happened I was pretty sure

50:09

she said something dirty . I

50:12

thought she said do that in me . And

50:14

I was like wait , wait , wait , what's going

50:16

on ? And then I turned on the subtitles . It says come

50:18

with me . Whether they're right or not

50:20

, I don't know , but that's what the subtitles

50:22

told me . Do that in me . And

50:25

I was like what

50:28

?

50:28

What's going on ? Now ? Here comes the crazy

50:30

scene . Anna

50:33

goes to a church , finds

50:37

a priest and starts talking to her about

50:39

ghosts and she's all like

50:41

are they haunted

50:43

or are they abused ? Are the kids being

50:46

haunted or have they been abused ? And she's

50:48

like both .

50:49

I think yeah , bit of both , priest

50:51

, bit of both , and

50:54

real quickly , dan . The

50:56

church is so cold . Did

50:58

you notice this ? We can see

51:01

both of their breaths as they talk . This

51:03

church is freezing cold

51:06

and I don't know why , but

51:08

it looks painful .

51:09

We went for our morning walk today , and

51:12

it's not super cold . Today it's going to get colder

51:14

, no , but it's not warm . Today it's pretty cold . Last

51:16

night , I wore my

51:19

shirt , I wore my sweatshirt , I wore

51:21

a jacket , I wore a wool hat and I wore gloves

51:23

. Oh my God , I wore a jacket , I wore a wool hat and I wore

51:25

gloves .

51:25

Oh my God , I would have made fun of you so hard .

51:27

I so didn't get cold this morning , it

51:31

was so nice .

51:34

Now you're dressing like you're in Minnesota , brother

51:36

, all right , yep

51:38

, I have shorts and a t-shirt all year long in

51:40

LA , you're a monster . So boom , she goes out . She goes outside and is doing

51:42

something .

51:43

T-shirt all year long in LA . You're a monster . So boom , she

51:45

goes out . She goes outside

51:48

and is doing something . I don't remember what she was doing

51:50

. Here comes the priest coming for her

51:52

with a single rose .

51:55

Yeah .

51:55

I mean he was making his move on her . Is

51:57

she just like have a magnet ? That's like make your move

51:59

on me ?

52:00

I'm ready for action . I

52:05

don't know , man . I don't understand the message we're sending

52:07

. It's inappropriate , but

52:09

everyone is inappropriate

52:11

to this girl . I don't get it . I

52:13

don't know , I don't understand , but

52:16

it's weird .

52:19

Oh no , I know she's out at she's

52:21

looking at the grave of Quint and

52:24

Mrs Jessel buried together , yep

52:27

.

52:30

What Aren't they in love ? Were they not in love ?

52:32

I don't remember how were they buried together . They're

52:35

not married , you know , are you sure

52:37

?

52:38

I don't know . Isn't he the father of her unborn

52:41

child ?

52:41

Well , I , mean it seems like in all these stories that he's impregnated

52:44

Bert , but he's like a bad guy .

52:46

Well , generally speaking , he's not

52:48

a great guy .

52:50

So he's not going to marry her .

52:52

Well , I mean , you're probably right , I don't know

52:54

, but in this one she dies

52:56

and then he hangs himself because he's so

52:58

sad , right , I'm pretty sure , I guess so

53:00

. What

53:07

do they care about the kids ? Why would they want to take the kids ? Yeah , I don't

53:09

have a clue . But not only that . Why is he

53:11

such a crazy ghost ? If he

53:13

was just in love and killed himself

53:15

, why is he all in the windows like Like

53:19

? That doesn't make any sense .

53:20

What kind of ?

53:21

ghost is that .

53:23

Maybe he's trying

53:26

to communicate something Like hey you're crazy .

53:27

You better leave before you kill Miles . No

53:29

, no .

53:31

Maybe it's like a charades

53:33

thing and he's got to do like crazy in love , you

53:35

know , crazy in love , you know . So he's

53:37

doing the three words movie

53:40

. She missed the

53:42

three words part . She

53:45

wasn't paying attention . You got to pay attention .

53:47

You got to pay attention to the beginning of charades or you're

53:49

going to be lost forever . Man , it's tough .

53:52

She goes back there , Mrs Gross

53:54

is like this is not working out . She starts

53:57

crying . Then Mrs

53:59

Gross is like it's all right . And then Mrs

54:01

Gross comes over and puts her hand on her head and she

54:03

makes a move on .

54:04

Then she puts her , she leads

54:06

against her breast zone her

54:09

bosom and they start making out

54:11

, and then they , they

54:14

start making out , and and then , as

54:16

they're making out , she starts making this like face

54:18

like it's really weird , like

54:20

a detached I'm not into

54:22

this sort of face , which I assume is the

54:24

trauma , right , but

54:27

I don't , I don't , I don't

54:29

, it's weird , I don't

54:31

know . Yeah , I don't get it .

54:33

And then they're in bed together , sort

54:35

of you can barely see anything . And then Anna's like

54:37

getting out and she like takes her underwear

54:40

with her or something . Yeah

54:43

, that's what it seems like and

54:45

with her or something . Yeah , that's what it seems like . Yeah , and I'm just like why are

54:47

we showing her ? Take her under like what ? How is that a piece of information

54:49

that ?

54:49

we need . Well , I thought I thought she

54:52

was . I don't know . I thought she was gonna

54:54

be like . I didn't want that to happen and

54:56

you know it's bad , but it seems like she did

54:58

want it . It seemed consensual . I

55:00

don't know , I don't know , I don't

55:03

know

55:05

, man .

55:06

This is tough stuff . She gets out of bed , back in

55:08

the halls Flora's

55:10

, at the open window , miles is just like standing

55:12

outside being weird . And

55:14

then they're like go get him . And

55:16

then they go out there and then they

55:19

say that it was all a trick to

55:21

get her , it was a joke

55:23

to scare her To scare her or something

55:25

.

55:26

Yeah , I

55:28

have no idea . I don't get it . I

55:33

don't know why they would do it . I don't know why the movie

55:35

would do it . I don't know what you're trying

55:37

to tell me right now . It

55:40

also didn't really work . She wasn't like

55:42

scared . You know when

55:44

she was scared , when you were swinging that scythe

55:46

, trying to reap your sister and steal her

55:48

soul . That was scary . Do that one

55:51

again . Do that one . Try

55:53

that one again . That could work , but

55:55

just standing there you're just being

55:57

weird .

55:59

So boom , the power is out . She's

56:01

going to stay with Miles all night . Of

56:03

course , she falls asleep on the job

56:05

and then miles wakes up . He like

56:08

peeps on her boobs . It's very weird

56:10

. Then she wakes up and you're like did she notice

56:12

that ?

56:13

we don't know it is . That is the question

56:15

, because then she crawls on top

56:17

of him . It's like I'll

56:20

never let anything happen to you . And

56:22

then she starts .

56:24

Does she ?

56:25

She's like you have to tell me about what happened at

56:27

school I don't .

56:28

Oh , I guess maybe I don't know , I don't know , I

56:31

do not know , because then

56:33

she starts getting angry at him to tell

56:35

about the school . Then she

56:38

slaps him , she slaps him

56:40

, and then he's like , leave

56:42

me be . And then she starts

56:44

crying .

56:45

And she says something like

56:47

I will never leave you be Something like

56:50

that . And I was like , okay , that's

56:52

weird . Yeah

56:54

, man

56:57

, I don't know , I don't

56:59

get it , I don't understand it , I don't

57:01

know if that's what they're saying or if

57:04

she's really just trying to protect them , and then

57:06

she goes crazy right , like I don't , I

57:08

don't know , but regardless

57:11

, if lily came

57:13

to me in that robe and slapped me , I'm

57:16

in tony , you always

57:18

be in um .

57:22

Flora is missing . They go to look

57:24

for her . And

57:26

then we have this weird voice , we have this great

57:28

voiceover . It's the weirdest

57:30

piece of voiceover because it doesn't fit . It just

57:32

sort of floats in there and it's

57:34

like Miles kept me occupied

57:37

so Flora could escape .

57:39

Now , when they say occupied

57:42

, oh , occupied .

57:43

What do you mean ? 15

57:46

minutes of occupation ?

57:48

Remember Seven Minutes in Heaven . You ever play that

57:51

game .

57:52

That's a weird game , just played it last night by

57:55

yourself . Who else ? No

57:58

as an adult .

57:59

Seven Minutes in Heaven is when you lock yourself

58:02

in a closet alone and just have peace

58:04

and quiet for a while as a

58:06

kid , it's a little different .

58:08

Yeah , no , we never played .

58:09

We were . You know , I never

58:11

played either , I was always jealous . Because

58:14

you see it in the TV shows and you're like that would

58:16

be a cool game of play . No one ever invited me . It's

58:18

bullshit , I agree

58:20

.

58:21

So they go to the lake . There's Flora

58:23

. She's sitting there Just

58:25

chilling on a bench Having an asthma

58:28

attack .

58:30

Which seems like a pretty bad plan if this was their

58:32

plan all along .

58:35

I don't totally follow . I'm going to escape out to the lake and have an asthma

58:37

attack . She just almost dies

58:39

, that's cool

58:43

and of course she starts seeing the ghosts

58:45

and Mrs Gross takes Flora and says You're

58:48

mad . Back

58:50

home they gotta warm up . Flora Anna

58:53

stays out in the woods and cries and Mrs

58:55

Gross has to go Back into the woods to

58:57

find her . And

58:59

it's .

59:00

It is weird crying man . I

59:02

don't . I don't want to question

59:05

her choices as an actor , but it is weird crying man . I don't . I don't want to question

59:07

her choices as an actor . Yeah , but this is weird . It's weird . She's

59:09

like wailing and

59:14

I don't understand what's going on

59:16

. I don't know why she's so upset . I don't know

59:18

.

59:18

I don't know what's happening it's almost like you're saying I

59:20

don't know , I don't know , I don't know a lot of times

59:22

, tony I .

59:23

You know what I have . I should get a t-shirt

59:25

that just says I don't know for , because I don't understand

59:28

this movie . One lick doesn't

59:30

make any sense to me , dan . I was waiting for you to

59:32

explain it to me . This one .

59:34

I got nothing on this one , and meanwhile that sounds

59:36

about right florist back home washing baby

59:38

dolls , maybe drowning them .

59:39

Maybe she's causing this I

59:42

don't know , I don't know , I don't know . Maybe . Yeah

59:44

, don't worry about it . We

59:46

get back there Because she's definitely holding the doll

59:49

under the water .

59:50

Yeah , she's drowning a doll , we get back

59:52

there . They get her back , they get Anna back

59:54

. Mrs Gross , let's

59:56

make you up a bath . And then

59:58

she's like , as you do , Flora's afraid

1:00:00

of you . And then Anna's like

1:00:02

she's setting a trap , they're

1:00:05

dead . And then we just go

1:00:07

back at her . They're dead , dead and gone . And they're

1:00:09

like you need to leave . And then

1:00:11

she's all like help me take a

1:00:13

bath . And then she's like , no

1:00:15

, and I'm just like .

1:00:18

She's like I shouldn't , because

1:00:20

I'm going to do some stuff that I shouldn't

1:00:22

do . If I help you with that bath Pretty

1:00:27

sure that's what's going on Now , Dan

1:00:30

. Why is Flora afraid

1:00:32

of Anna ? What

1:00:38

have we seen that makes her afraid of her ? You're

1:00:45

pointing at nothing . I'm just going to tell you that right now , you're

1:00:48

pointing at nothing .

1:00:50

I'm traversing the path from the house to the

1:00:52

lake the lake back to the house and

1:00:54

trying to think , when she was alone , that

1:00:56

she could have done something terrible yeah

1:00:58

, I don't know let's

1:01:04

see boom

1:01:06

, know , let's

1:01:09

see boom . Flora screams in the night she's

1:01:12

having a super as asthma attack

1:01:14

. Miles takes off . And then

1:01:16

we got to take Flora in the ambulance

1:01:18

to the hospital . So mrs gross

1:01:20

is gone and is gone . All we're left with is miles

1:01:22

. I mean not as a miss . Gross is gone . Flora's gone . All we're left with is Miles . I mean not Anne . Mrs

1:01:25

Gross is gone . Flora's gone . All we're left

1:01:27

is Miles and the house . That's

1:01:29

it . We're going to get to the end of the movie . We're not going to see

1:01:31

any other characters ever again . It's

1:01:34

just these two characters .

1:01:36

Which is clearly what this movie's been all about the

1:01:38

whole time , is it ? No

1:01:41

, that was sarcasm , you see , because

1:01:43

this is , I don't understand . The

1:01:45

whole movie was a red herring for this final scene

1:01:48

to me .

1:01:49

So she goes looking for Miles , finds him in the closet

1:01:51

, then they go together

1:01:53

and she locks them both in

1:01:55

a bathroom .

1:01:57

Yeah .

1:01:58

And then she's like I'll do anything for you

1:02:00

. And she's like tell

1:02:02

me everything , confess and I can save

1:02:04

you . Then she hugs him and

1:02:06

she's all like you're hurting me . You're

1:02:09

hurting me . And she's like tell me the name of the

1:02:11

ghost and then you'll be

1:02:13

free .

1:02:13

And he's like yeah , say his name and you'll be

1:02:15

free .

1:02:16

What it's , quint , and

1:02:18

then she does a laughing , crazy

1:02:20

, laugh , cry , and

1:02:22

then she's like you're free , you're free , and I think he bites

1:02:24

her he does something to get

1:02:26

away .

1:02:27

I wasn't , I was laughing too hard at this

1:02:29

point to really understand what

1:02:31

he did , but he did something so he could escape

1:02:33

. Now , dan , what

1:02:36

happened here ? Why ? What

1:02:38

is what is the say his name and

1:02:40

you'll be free type ? Is that like a grief

1:02:43

, like paradigm

1:02:45

, like I don't , because this is not

1:02:47

ghost lore , right , there's no

1:02:49

ghost lore that says if you say his name

1:02:51

, he'll go away . Let the anti-beetlejuice

1:02:54

, if you will . So I don't

1:02:56

understand . Where is this coming

1:02:58

from ? What is what is this ?

1:03:00

someone needs to tell me and it's like confession

1:03:02

, confess me . And it's like confession , confess . You must

1:03:04

confess what

1:03:07

this is about religion . I don't

1:03:09

know I just don't know what's happening

1:03:12

as soon as if a thing is not a

1:03:14

crime drama . Once you start talking about confession

1:03:16

, that means we've shifted over to the larger

1:03:18

religious questions

1:03:21

. And children last I looked

1:03:23

were pure right .

1:03:25

Well , not these children , dan . These children , last I looked , were pure right . Well , not these children , dan . These children

1:03:27

are evil . I don't know if you've been paying attention to the

1:03:29

movie .

1:03:29

There's some dirty birds . Yeah

1:03:32

, I don't know .

1:03:35

There's a line that you just reminded me of . When Flora's

1:03:37

drowning the doll , she

1:03:40

says , and I quote you're a dirty

1:03:42

little girl , aren't you ? And I'm sure

1:03:44

it's not meant to be sexual . But

1:03:47

I laughed so

1:03:49

hard . It was very weird

1:03:51

, because at some point this creepy

1:03:54

guy that directed this movie I think he's

1:03:56

a creep . I don't know , maybe he's a great guy

1:03:58

and he's just making choices , but

1:04:02

in my head I was like he improvised that line . He was like oh Floor

1:04:04

, you know what you should say .

1:04:10

Say you're a dirty little girl . Say it , say it . It was very weird .

1:04:11

Now you're being you're being gross and I may want to think about this dude

1:04:13

.

1:04:14

Okay , let's finish the movie what I'm saying ? It's weird man so

1:04:16

they end up chasing out there

1:04:18

. Um , oh

1:04:20

wait , okay , this is the best part of the movie . She

1:04:23

like goes and looks at the drawings , so she's sort of

1:04:25

chasing him , but she ends up in a room with the drawings

1:04:27

. Oh , he's under the bed maybe .

1:04:29

Yeah , he's under the bed .

1:04:30

I don't know how he gets out of . Whatever , it doesn't matter

1:04:32

. She's looking at the drawings , and then

1:04:34

there's this drawing of there's

1:04:37

Anna yeah , her

1:04:39

name is crossed out and it's written the

1:04:41

monster or just monster and

1:04:43

anna is causing the airplane

1:04:45

with her parents to crash , right

1:04:48

am I ? Did I get that right ? I

1:04:50

mean ?

1:04:51

right is a relative term , but from what

1:04:53

I understood , yeah , you nailed that

1:04:55

on the head so the kid thinks that anna

1:04:58

killed his parents I

1:05:01

don't know . I mean , that's

1:05:03

the drawing that we saw . But what

1:05:05

is that ? How ? Why

1:05:07

? Maybe she's Satan , you

1:05:10

think so . Maybe she's . She's the devil

1:05:12

, huh .

1:05:13

Yeah , she's the devil , I don't

1:05:15

know , and

1:05:17

she's like , okay , let's go there , right , what

1:05:20

does she do ? She's a spirit

1:05:22

of temptation that tempts people , sure

1:05:24

, and they fall for it a lot .

1:05:25

So Satan took her's like she's a spirit of temptation .

1:05:25

That tempts people , sure , and they fall for it a lot satan took her

1:05:27

over when she was a kid and she

1:05:29

became satan . She let the devil in , so

1:05:32

she's . She's there to tempt mrs gross

1:05:34

. She's there to molest the children

1:05:36

and then drive them crazy and kill

1:05:39

them tick .

1:05:40

I mean , she's doing a great job . She's knocking

1:05:42

it out of the park is the devil . So there you go

1:05:44

. Pretty good stuff , anna . So she

1:05:46

chases miles sort

1:05:49

of into the lake he goes into the lake and

1:05:51

he just works his way down , shimmying

1:05:54

down the tree in the water for

1:05:56

some reason I don't know .

1:05:58

He drowns and she's like you're safe with me

1:06:00

, I'm the only one who knows

1:06:03

.

1:06:04

Now , what does she know ? I

1:06:06

don't know , and she keeps saying , like

1:06:08

it'll be our secret , dan

1:06:11

, what's happening ?

1:06:14

That's the end of the movie .

1:06:15

I don't know . Well , the end of the movie is I don't know , but it's weird

1:06:17

. Let's him drown . That's weird .

1:06:19

Her face gets superimposed with her childhood

1:06:22

face . Her face gets superimposed with her childhood face .

1:06:23

Yes .

1:06:24

That'll tell everybody what's going on ?

1:06:26

What the hell does that mean ? What does that

1:06:28

mean ? Does that ? I don't know

1:06:30

, man , this movie's dumb and

1:06:32

weird and boring .

1:06:35

It's really Just for a

1:06:37

movie with like lesbianism

1:06:39

and sex and people playing

1:06:41

the violin and then doing things you're

1:06:44

just like People playing the violin . Love

1:06:46

that it's just like atrociously boring

1:06:48

.

1:06:51

It don't make no sense either . It's super weird

1:06:53

.

1:06:53

At least there were a few jump scares . There was one jump

1:06:56

scare in here which was very badly handled

1:06:58

.

1:07:01

There were no cool drum scenes though

1:07:04

Swing

1:07:09

and a miss , miss . I'm exhausted . Now you're exhausted , well , let

1:07:11

me read you some reviews of this film . Damn , because it turns out

1:07:14

, the defenders of this film are also

1:07:16

creepy . That's what I've learned

1:07:18

, and I'm not saying all of them are probably

1:07:20

creepy , but I the two that I read

1:07:22

were both like okay , you got some

1:07:24

problems . You should probably get that looked at

1:07:27

. So here's the first one that I found , which

1:07:29

is nice and short , but just made me laugh really

1:07:31

hard . Yada , yada

1:07:33

, yada . Ellipses Now

1:07:35

enter .

1:07:36

Lili . Wait , they said yada , yada

1:07:38

, yada , or they said a bunch of other bullshit that you don't

1:07:40

care about .

1:07:40

I'm just letting you know that they said other stuff

1:07:42

before this ellipses . And

1:07:45

then we're into it .

1:07:45

So you're taking what they said completely out

1:07:47

of context .

1:07:49

Dan , just wait till you hear it . Okay , just

1:07:52

hold the phone and then enter

1:07:54

Lili Sobieski , who is the one

1:07:56

and only reason to watch this confused

1:07:58

effort . If you are

1:08:00

a lesbian or

1:08:03

a male who likes Lili Sobieski

1:08:06

, then this movie's for you . What

1:08:08

does that mean ? Wait , what

1:08:10

, what ?

1:08:10

does that mean ? Why

1:08:12

did balloons just shoot ?

1:08:14

up out of you . I don't know , did you see that ? How did

1:08:16

I do that ? One , two , is that

1:08:18

what I did ? I ?

1:08:19

don't know what balloons . Balloons shot out of you . What the

1:08:21

hell happened .

1:08:21

Where were the balloons ?

1:08:21

Yeah , what balloons ? Balloons shot out of you . What the ?

1:08:22

hell happened . Where are the balloons ? I don't know .

1:08:24

What do you mean ? You don't know , I

1:08:26

didn't do it . What do you mean ? You didn't do

1:08:28

it , it just chose to balloon you . Who

1:08:30

chose to balloon you ? I don't understand

1:08:32

.

1:08:33

I don't know if that's a Zencaster thing

1:08:35

. I don't know what just happened . What did we do

1:08:37

? We got ballooned . I just

1:08:40

did all over again and

1:08:42

nothing's working . You're talking about how much ?

1:08:44

you want to see Lili Sobieski ?

1:08:45

naked , not me

1:08:48

, this reviewer , okay , but I just

1:08:50

love . Because they said if you're a lesbian

1:08:52

in general , any lesbian will

1:08:54

love this movie . Or if you're a guy who

1:08:57

likes Lili Sobieski , then

1:08:59

you'll like this movie , but not if you're a guy that

1:09:01

just likes other people . It doesn't make

1:09:03

any sense . What a stupid thing to say . And

1:09:05

I love it . Now , here's the good one

1:09:07

. This one's a

1:09:09

little longer , damn , but just bear with

1:09:11

me , because it's it's wonderful . In

1:09:14

a dark place is a widely overlooked

1:09:16

and sorely underrated 2006

1:09:18

adaptation of henry james classic turn of this group

1:09:20

. Not correct , by the way . It's not either of

1:09:22

those things , and aside from

1:09:24

earning four cleavers for

1:09:27

so exquisitely displaying

1:09:29

Miss Sobieski's ample bosom without

1:09:32

so much as one arbitrary topless

1:09:34

scene , it scores plentiful points

1:09:37

for purveying all the goods of

1:09:39

a grand gothic slash and bash

1:09:41

A gorgeous alien-like

1:09:44

female . What

1:09:46

, no , I don't know what's

1:09:48

happening did you do it

1:09:50

again ?

1:09:51

no , you got a thumbs up when you did that . You

1:09:53

got thumbs up again , your head just

1:09:55

exploded fireworks .

1:09:58

What is happening ? I don't know where

1:10:00

this is coming from , Dan , but

1:10:02

I love it .

1:10:07

What was that ? Okay

1:10:09

, four out of four cleavers for

1:10:11

her cleavage . Is that because of a cleavage

1:10:13

? Cleavers for cleavage .

1:10:15

For exquisitely displaying

1:10:18

her ample bosom . And

1:10:20

then he goes on to say it's

1:10:22

a classic , grand gothic slash and

1:10:24

bash with a gorgeous

1:10:26

alien-like female with

1:10:29

no small semblance of complexity

1:10:31

, A steamy yet

1:10:33

classy lesbian tryst

1:10:35

and

1:10:46

, of course , two marvelous mammaries that act as scene stealers and in some way show acting

1:10:49

of their own . What are you ? What is ? What kind of a review of the movie is

1:10:51

that ? He's basically just talking about

1:10:53

her boobs .

1:10:54

Well , this

1:10:56

is the people that fall . That's in

1:10:58

this movie . I mean , it's in the movie

1:11:00

, but you're not you're like too

1:11:02

much guy .

1:11:03

I'm just going to tell you that right now You're

1:11:06

getting the wrong message , and that's

1:11:08

why I think this movie just gives me a weird vibe

1:11:10

. I don't like it . I don't like it

1:11:12

at all .

1:11:13

Oh my gosh .

1:11:14

Wow , give me something good

1:11:16

. Come on , yeah , okay

1:11:18

. So two thumbs up seems like fireworks

1:11:20

. That's

1:11:25

good to know . Fireworks out of your head . I gotta figure out where this is coming from . Yeah , you can't do

1:11:27

it . Huh , I

1:11:30

don't understand why . I'm trying

1:11:32

to just do a little harder . Come on , dan

1:11:34

, you can get it . I

1:11:37

don't know . I don't know what's happening , but I love it .

1:11:40

It's like a secret word . You

1:11:43

didn't know it's even coming . Oh

1:11:47

my god , what was the first thing that happened ?

1:11:50

um what happened oh , the balloons

1:11:53

maybe

1:11:55

because I pointed up , happy birthday

1:11:57

say happy birthday , happy birthday nope

1:12:01

. Two thumbs , two fingers up . Oh

1:12:04

, I don't know where the no , I don't know where the balloons came

1:12:06

from . I don't know nothing . I almost lost my mind

1:12:08

.

1:12:08

I'm like what is happening .

1:12:11

Yeah , I'm just a magic man . This

1:12:13

movie's terrible . This movie's

1:12:15

really bad . And I listen . I

1:12:18

don't want to be rude to Lili

1:12:20

, but I don't feel like as much

1:12:22

as I thought this movie was terrible and

1:12:24

the script was bad , directing was bad . I

1:12:27

didn't feel like she had the emotional

1:12:29

range to also contend

1:12:31

with what was happening on screen . But

1:12:33

that's okay , that's all right

1:12:35

I mean , yeah , now did she have

1:12:38

a very tiny mouth . Yeah

1:12:40

, no , she's got . She's got like a little fish

1:12:43

mouth . It's real small for

1:12:45

her face , but it's fine .

1:12:48

It is what it is Good luck to her . Well , she's

1:12:50

married to that dude and doesn't do anything anymore

1:12:52

.

1:12:54

Yeah , the ex-fashion designer . From my understanding

1:12:56

she quit acting to go into

1:12:59

the art or something , pictures

1:13:01

or something , I don't know .

1:13:02

Maybe she's out there .

1:13:03

She probably had , like a personal you

1:13:06

know , meant something to her spot for her . Yeah , oof

1:13:09

, okay

1:13:12

, oh . Now I need to tell you my theory . Oh

1:13:14

, what's your theory ? Don't ? So my theory

1:13:16

? Dan , anna , this

1:13:18

lady who loves art

1:13:20

and

1:13:22

loses her mind , sure

1:13:24

, loves art and loses her mind , sure

1:13:27

. Is

1:13:29

indeed Kate's mother in the turning , and so then her

1:13:31

daughter goes back to

1:13:33

Bly and it turns out

1:13:35

there may be Argos . So

1:13:38

that's that's what I think . So I think they're

1:13:40

. They're sequential .

1:13:42

Yeah , and there was another , mr Mrs

1:13:44

Jessalyn , another Quint and another pair

1:13:46

of kids named Flora and Miles .

1:13:49

Stranger things have happened . Maybe

1:13:51

, they're all ghosts . That's why she can't leave . They're

1:13:54

all dead . They all died . Okay , here's

1:13:56

the theory . They all died

1:13:58

back when Anna was there

1:14:00

. Anna lost her mind , went to this

1:14:03

insane asylum place . The

1:14:05

daughter then went back to Bly

1:14:07

because her mom probably sent

1:14:09

her with the letter . Everybody

1:14:12

there's ghosts . Everyone there's

1:14:14

ghosts . There you go . I've solved all

1:14:16

the movies .

1:14:17

Everyone's ghosts . That's the solution to every

1:14:19

movie .

1:14:19

Everyone's ghosts . That's the easiest

1:14:21

way to get out .

1:14:22

Everyone's crazy and everyone's ghosts

1:14:25

. There you go . Nothing means anything . That's the easiest way to get out .

1:14:26

Everyone's crazy and everyone's ghosts . There you go , there you go . Nothing's

1:14:29

real , don't worry about it . All right , I won't make you watch

1:14:31

any more Turning of the Screw adaptations

1:14:33

.

1:14:33

I was almost going to make us do it a third time . I

1:14:36

found a third one from 2006,

1:14:39

.

1:14:39

I think . Oh , okay , or 2004

1:14:41

.

1:14:41

I was like , let's do it again . And then I was like , no , I don't

1:14:43

want to do it again , because I just can't

1:14:46

do it . I can't do it anymore . It's

1:14:48

just not a story that people should be

1:14:50

allowed to do unless they actually have something to say

1:14:52

.

1:14:53

Yeah , I mean , I rewatched this week . I'm

1:14:56

getting ahead of myself , never mind .

1:14:58

Something we liked this week . I started Fallout

1:15:00

.

1:15:01

Yes , what's his name ? Okie dokie .

1:15:03

What's his name ? Who's the dude that's

1:15:05

playing the ghoul guy ?

1:15:07

Walton Goggins or

1:15:09

something like that . He is loving

1:15:13

his life so much he just

1:15:15

he's having so much fun , he's having

1:15:17

the most fun with being

1:15:19

this character throughout his .

1:15:21

I don't think I've ever seen anybody act

1:15:23

a character as much as

1:15:25

he is acting this character , and it's just like it's

1:15:27

like let's I mean the girl's good

1:15:29

too . The dude that's playing the

1:15:31

suit . Did you watch it ?

1:15:33

oh yeah , yeah , not all the way , we're only uh

1:15:36

two , two in yeah , I'm only two in

1:15:38

. The other guy that's playing the suit guy

1:15:40

, whatever um yeah

1:15:43

but gargans

1:15:45

jesus christ well when , when it was first

1:15:47

announced , everyone was like , yep , no

1:15:49

, that's , that's perfect casting and it turns

1:15:51

out it is , and he is . He's

1:15:54

wonderful and I , I'm , I'm loving the show . I'm

1:15:56

having a good time because I'm a huge fan of the games

1:15:58

, so seeing this like the

1:16:00

stim packs were just picture

1:16:02

perfect . That's like the health pack that she injects

1:16:04

herself with . It's just

1:16:06

beautiful . It's a faithful adaptation

1:16:09

, without actually like stealing any of

1:16:11

the storylines from the games . It's wonderful

1:16:13

. I'm having a great time . Don't say that , tony .

1:16:14

It's not faithful . What they

1:16:17

ruined Las Vegas , so

1:16:19

I'd be prepared , oh

1:16:22

no , okay . So

1:16:25

the Las Vegas of the games is not in this , and it's a travesty .

1:16:28

Do you like Fallout New Vegas ?

1:16:31

I just read some of the reviews . All

1:16:34

the one-star reviews are like they ruined

1:16:36

Vegas .

1:16:38

How can I ?

1:16:38

live my life . If they ruined Vegas , I

1:16:41

will never buy another one of their games

1:16:43

because of Vegas .

1:16:45

It's a TV .

1:16:45

It's a stupid TV show . Why ?

1:16:49

It's a new story in the universe

1:16:51

. It's not like a continuation

1:16:54

of any of the games guys . It's an original story

1:16:56

. Get over yourselves .

1:16:57

Do all the games really connect together perfectly

1:16:59

?

1:16:59

No , Of course not . Otherwise it wouldn't

1:17:01

make any sense . You can't have this . No

1:17:04

, no , of course not . Otherwise it wouldn't make any sense , you can't have this .

1:17:06

No , no , and there was one guy that was like they went from point X to

1:17:08

point Z in too little amount of time . That should

1:17:10

have taken .

1:17:11

You're just like stop , just stop

1:17:13

, just watch the show , guys . Listen

1:17:15

, I'm loving it . I'm having a great time . Yeah

1:17:18

, although New Vegas is a great

1:17:20

game , it's a wonderful game , but it's not

1:17:22

this show .

1:17:23

And that's the thing . You can't judge

1:17:25

a show . There are a bunch of coincidences

1:17:28

in these two episodes

1:17:30

where you're just like how are ? All these people

1:17:33

getting in the exact same spot at the exact same time

1:17:35

. That doesn't make any sense , but you just have to let

1:17:37

all that stuff go .

1:17:38

You're just having a good time .

1:17:39

Enjoy the silly world that they've created .

1:17:41

Yeah Amen , enjoy the silly world that they've

1:17:43

created . Yeah , amen , okay , tony , what are you going to talk about

1:17:45

? Well , that was one of mine , obviously

1:17:47

as well . But then the other was we rewatched the

1:17:50

Haunting of Bly Manor , I remembered

1:17:52

. After we finished I was like , oh , that's

1:17:54

right . I said I would never watch this show again

1:17:56

because it affects me so

1:17:59

deeply on an emotional level , like

1:18:01

I cried Listen , I

1:18:03

don't cry , okay , but if I did cry I would have

1:18:05

cried for like two hours that night and it was brutal

1:18:08

on the finale , like it's so emotional , it's

1:18:10

such a beautiful show and it's

1:18:12

it's hard to watch that and then watch

1:18:14

these stupid things . Cause , just like , nah

1:18:16

, like this guy understands how to tell

1:18:18

a tale . He knows how to

1:18:20

tell a story yeah

1:18:23

so yeah .

1:18:24

So I was going to make us watch another one , but I'm not going

1:18:27

to do that . As much as I hate us , I don't

1:18:29

hate us that much well

1:18:31

, you don't hate yourself that much .

1:18:32

If it was just me that had to watch it , I think

1:18:35

you would have done it .

1:18:35

Oh , absolutely and

1:18:38

I'd written down a couple of remakes

1:18:40

that I was thinking about and I was like , oh , let's do

1:18:42

one of these remakes . And then I looked it

1:18:44

up Robocop the remake

1:18:46

it's not supposed to be that bad .

1:18:48

So I was like yeah , no , I saw that in theaters

1:18:50

. We had a good time . Keaton's in that . He's

1:18:52

great .

1:18:53

I love him , so I crossed that off my list , sadly

1:18:55

. All

1:18:59

right , so then I was like do we want action ?

1:19:01

Tony .

1:19:01

You gotta , let you decide .

1:19:02

I get to choose .

1:19:03

I've got action adventure and

1:19:07

I got comedy .

1:19:08

Well , you know , we just did Bucky Larson and that's such a good

1:19:10

comedy that I think we should lean towards

1:19:12

action-adventure for next week .

1:19:14

Action-adventure we're gonna saddle up with Keanu

1:19:16

Reeves and deal with 47

1:19:19

Ronin , oh , okay

1:19:21

.

1:19:21

I've never seen this movie . I'm

1:19:24

ready , I'm very excited . I

1:19:27

love a good Keanu . We haven't seen him since . What Replicas I'm ready .

1:19:29

I was looking at that and I was like what

1:19:32

is this movie Replicas , you know ? Because

1:19:34

I had it on my list and I was like , was it crossed off

1:19:36

? And I was like , did we do that

1:19:39

one ? And then I was like one was , oh , we did it we just

1:19:42

created a whole new family , except one of the children

1:19:44

, in two days .

1:19:45

Oh we'll make that other job later . No one's really

1:19:47

that bad about it . It's okay , it's fine

1:19:50

, we didn't need that one anyhow reprogram

1:19:52

everybody to forget that child .

1:19:53

You're like wait a second . What ?

1:19:55

happened ? What did you make you're ?

1:19:56

gonna do what wasn't ? It isn't that what they did ? They

1:19:58

forgot one of their children .

1:19:59

It's a hundred percent . Yeah , he like deleted

1:20:01

the code from their brain so

1:20:03

that they wouldn't remember that that child existed

1:20:06

.

1:20:07

Oh , it's so terrible .

1:20:08

So stupid , pretty good stuff Pretty good

1:20:10

, but all right , 47 Ronin

1:20:12

, 47 Ronin . You know it , baby .

1:20:15

And yeah , so we'll be back next week

1:20:17

. If you like what you see , give us a comment

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you're so inclined Way too late

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leave us a like , even subscribe if you're

1:20:26

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1:20:26

Way too late we got a bunch of views on the madam web one . I don't did pretty well , sure , because

1:20:28

if we do something current and people want to see it , yeah , they're gonna click

1:20:30

on it . Who knows , did we get any comments ? Anybody

1:20:32

yell at us ? All

1:20:35

right , we should do something that people like soon

1:20:37

again and just make fun of them like we did with .

1:20:39

Uh , please don't destroy oh

1:20:41

the Please Don't Destroy people so sad

1:20:44

. People love it . Yeah , I watched

1:20:46

. They were on Mike Birbiglia

1:20:49

. Did I already talk about that ? No , you didn't

1:20:51

. Yeah , I watched most of their interview

1:20:53

on the Mike Birbiglia show . Okay

1:20:56

, you know they're

1:20:59

not that funny for guys . Sure sure

1:21:02

, well

1:21:04

, what are you ?

1:21:04

going to do there's time ? Well , there's time . What are you gonna do there's time ? There's time

1:21:07

. You're still young . You can get there , grow

1:21:09

and be like , do the best work later

1:21:12

, not if people keep letting them make

1:21:14

movies like the legend of foggy

1:21:16

mountain or whatever . They had a joke

1:21:18

in it , they had lots of jokes

1:21:21

in it , they just weren't't funny jokes . Hey

1:21:23

, that's a start , though . It's

1:21:26

a start , you're right . Good for you . Good

1:21:28

for you . Positivity around . I love

1:21:30

it .

1:21:30

So maybe we'll see you next week . If we don't , then

1:21:33

we'll see you some other time , that's not next

1:21:35

week 47 Ronin Goodbye

1:21:37

everybody .

1:21:38

Watch it with Dan

1:21:40

and Tony . Hey , watch it with Dan and

1:21:42

Tony . It's

1:21:49

like watching yeah .