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go back to south i

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really wow dude euros i

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the walking on the hollins like yeah south

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yeah south south i don't sell their songs

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i'm hoping it was more self appointed you know

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how that without or not so on and so

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lemme then i remember when i'm at suburbia

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the year that guy people

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black can view in carlsbad it because

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that proof of i gonna veggies and

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he was like they were like he found

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out there was another black sound he thought that i was

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like imitating

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him like a

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public now do to sell as

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cel barbie as is barbie serve some nothing

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so if and i could

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never you i couldn't i the shoes of so by bezos

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like no and no planted ever

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lived with think that think kid am

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remotely steal any ideas and

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ideas like literally one

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of at that time the there's a three

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so maybe four and a half black

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dudes in all carl's that of

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courses wouldn't

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you know roman romeo

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jealous yeah so

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was suburbia was rami

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so

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then like one other guy for the the

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wolves allies

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strange

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the grounds that it was it was strange realized

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i'd sir

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what you get a weird it was very web

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new to take everything you know about skateboarding and

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throw it out the doors imagine like showing

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up to the beach and guys be i'm what are you doing

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here youths you guys don't even

5:42

swim like last hour at wire

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black it was on the beach holding

5:47

a surfboard like the people

5:49

brains and that and hub man cause that in

5:51

carlsbad wow yeah

5:53

no it was by winning it was the

5:55

time he was if it wasn't for like retailer knox

5:59

we graduate the same in he was one of the people

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i've had back it would have been

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worse i be

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a funny example there was this girl and i liked it a

6:07

my in my i think is my english

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class i asked her friend

6:12

the about her

6:14

when day in in in the house as

6:16

a up with with i was stephanie

6:19

and she's like what you think eating

6:21

she's to as a yeah super

6:23

cute like any

6:26

animal she's in a black ice but let me out not

6:29

alec of the back to energy like off

6:31

now you know most fans

6:35

hectic , normally like oh

6:38

yeah it was it was super

6:40

it was i got let go

6:42

from some hobby i

6:45

worked a hobby for was different and i'll

6:47

only i was like a shop rather yeah

6:50

and i finally got a job in

6:52

oceanside in oceanside yeah yeah which now

6:54

cigarette right and i've finally gotten

6:56

a that was stoked i quit i

6:58

was a tell it bank of america and i quit the go

7:01

and work at the shop my parents thought it was crazy but

7:03

it was like mom that you you don't understand

7:05

like good this is the place i'm setting snow

7:07

i'm tuning snowboard setup skateboards and i'm us

7:10

downstairs on sofa and i have to like

7:13

two months until now when

7:15

they i come in and my friend aaron i'm

7:18

glad gonna girls than with was like hey

7:20

it's a slow and you the last one hired

7:22

so we added reality

7:25

go but you know get on schedule

7:27

soon as dumb dear

7:29

now but yeah oh okay cool kept

7:31

coming back around the weeks

7:33

later you like oh okay a new guy

7:36

who's that girl the are and

7:38

then you start to figure out like oh i guess i'm

7:40

not coming back got my job back at the bank

7:43

and i get a call at the bank and

7:46

i will never allow to take calls when you're on

7:48

the tell him i like your job is to make transactions

7:51

manager to stop storm and over and she's like

7:54

there's someone on the phone and they won't get off

7:57

and i told me you're on the line of they don't care

7:59

and

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oh branded a break room and take the call

8:02

and get back out in topeka i go

8:04

back and pick up for announcing in is like

8:06

the our family emergency or something with air

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again

8:12

so i just a i had to call you because the had

8:15

this thing with to bother my conscience for a long

8:17

, and i can't really

8:19

live with really live and leaving leaving the store

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them in adobe assignments but didn't fight we

8:24

didn't let you go to do so the and let you

8:26

go because the owner said we had you didn't

8:28

you're being black didn't have to didn't

8:30

fit the the definition image

8:33

of the surf shop so we had let go there

8:37

i got kicked off eggs were x y z for being

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allegedly gay on speakerphone

8:41

and they all laughed when they fired me way

8:47

it's use

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yeah yeah so that's why is

8:51

he an x y z fear the

8:53

time i wanted to be on is no right i

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remember subdued were all the sit

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when

8:59

for putting your case

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are you thankful that dude told you could you

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can i knew that already know i know you expect

9:06

it now i was like i'm

9:08

dumb as naive trying to your kid

9:10

to try to fit in but i may i say

9:12

i thought you said we saw the girl get hired somehow

9:15

you can and nine laid on did was going on

9:17

but the last i thought that was had

9:20

anything even know the

9:22

she was happening all the time you like not

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this not like that for any fucked

9:26

me up i get really really really

9:28

yeah like that one fuck me match

9:31

when i to get pissed and

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my mom idol out on my mom's

9:35

ominous like fuck this yeah

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man

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she said well you could sue

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the largest but look at this for a second

9:44

we're new to this town

9:47

and side you

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think they're gonna take local

9:52

to to owners them they're super like

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gerb prolific even count richard

9:56

exaggerate you

9:59

know this sounds

9:59

history there's generational like who

10:02

and as it but they did with six

10:04

so and it was my

10:06

mom just really like held the mirror

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up to her face is a does two things you can do yes

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you could see will support you access or or you

10:13

can just make sure that no one fucking takes this thing

10:16

that love away from the

10:18

the know that also like

10:21

this is something that you're gonna continue to

10:23

deal

10:24

and so

10:25

it litter bill and my ass out with that

10:28

was the one

10:29

the got to that they're like no more jokes

10:31

and eat any talking shit whatever

10:33

and also like my

10:36

my father besides being a musician was

10:40

a like race activists

10:42

a key was politically was politically

10:44

exiled from south africa for thirty years

10:47

couldn't go home because he was fighting against partite

10:49

and so now got this it happened in the you and you realize

10:52

you your understanding you legacy

10:54

when you come from the like okay no

10:57

no more china like fit in and hope that

10:59

you get to make friends at the expense

11:01

of getting updating the be your whole

11:03

self

11:04

you know

11:05

the a great role model to have your dad

11:08

ah he was the shit

11:10

the was he was so the ship because

11:12

you know he fought but he also likes fucking

11:16

showered people with such an immense amount

11:18

love you know and and

11:20

told the story of where he was the

11:23

from and why was fucked up my you support

11:26

you know what was going on in south africa and any leads

11:28

it people with this music that made him feel so good

11:31

it's like yeah fuck

11:33

that you know but he

11:35

he have print for someone who literally

11:38

physically couldn't go home for thirty years

11:41

because are risking death

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oil or been jailed he

11:44

had a wonderful approach loving

11:47

the shit out of every one of the point where they'd be

11:49

exhausted

11:50

that being hateful and i think the smartest

11:52

way to go about it it is and

11:54

it's what i think that was that combine

11:57

anger the the negativity comes from anger

11:59

into fi it with anger you the same spot

12:01

know so he just was like

12:04

and trust me when he needed to fuck go off he

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did but those limited

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number of of of of arrows

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and that quiver the only use them when is

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strictly for like or i like i'd take you

12:15

out

12:16

but he wasn't out there trying to be

12:18

knew we'd be exhausted china

12:21

to to do that i think that was want my

12:23

my approach to like

12:25

the industry was

12:27

i just i i think i'm

12:30

subconsciously was making enough i i

12:32

just the joy of the of of this of

12:34

his life and culture was so

12:36

fascinatingly dart surfing in value

12:39

with area then started surfing in carlsbad

12:41

started skating

12:43

the east the like a year

12:45

and a half before it i was in a school a

12:47

grub in the your now the massachusetts

12:49

for like two and a half years

12:51

which was a super culture shock my mom and stepdad

12:54

said the move that as my my stepdad will

12:56

work in between boston and new the

12:58

only kids that were cool he

13:00

my high school in massachusetts in alberta

13:03

where these with the coolest

13:05

to me like the midst of all the like jocks clicks

13:08

for these for

13:09

i can skateboard one kid named scar

13:11

force i'm still friends with this day they had

13:13

all the fucking sick that all the pins

13:16

down side the scenes and black flag

13:19

and just that just the way they dress

13:21

is so cool and may stood out

13:24

they couldn't have stood up more like to my town

13:26

was was like work boots then

13:28

in flannels and they were just like bar

13:31

they probably got shit for it they did

13:33

they got yeah i mean it like i said are within the know

13:36

he does used everyday the researchers

13:38

and but i was just curious about them like they

13:40

were the closest thing to like they

13:43

were the closest thing they like culture

13:45

like the kids who are different which i'd grown

13:47

up with new york's i gravitated towards him and

13:49

his kids got forbes get me escape and

13:52

they had dash magazine i knew nothing about

13:54

the culture i just imitated what they did he gave

13:57

me my for gave me a skateboard while now

13:59

the

13:59

really changed everything like that

14:02

helped me get the massachusetts i still in know anything

14:04

about skateboarding on also

14:07

way my was moving the carlsbad will make

14:09

i came from hype from school when they my pants

14:11

had that in april the school

14:13

and my the right there's

14:16

week of april i come home the

14:18

my mom and my stepdad sit me down says

14:21

removing the calif loughner

14:23

in two weeks or so what are you still

14:25

owe him a i just figured this shit

14:27

out her girlfriend you're in the all

14:29

that sixteen year old said

14:31

go cross country the you are

14:34

holding a california at night didn't know

14:36

where we were woke

14:38

up in the morning to go unload the you home walk

14:40

outside were up in the top of the hill

14:42

above tamarack in a call the sack

14:45

pan right never forget

14:47

it slowly pan right palm trees

14:49

what is my

14:51

there's an ocean

14:53

test but like right

14:56

what's happening here it comes

14:58

frightened by in his way to school as were unloading

15:01

amberley me you half remember those

15:04

hundred the repo scooters yeah

15:06

he had he had honda reverse kidding

15:09

for waterfall

15:11

sandals shorts and a tank

15:14

top on and oakley blades and he can

15:16

roam by slowly looks at me

15:18

my and and those a soft and what

15:21

what is that ah

15:24

he can be either either gonna go different direction

15:26

but that freedom yeah now

15:28

that are i here's

15:30

the now i'm i'm still love him more serious

15:33

with fun ha yeah i'll just

15:35

see where rotten those

15:37

aiming about california looks like

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and , i will begin to be know how you got

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my party i was my being when

15:47

i got there's like oh you guys

15:49

don't even know what you have the up

15:51

and i the whether i'll i'll leave at

15:53

noon

15:54

really we didn't know there was a kid

15:57

i'd

15:58

i went to lunch with these kids that

15:59

but there are you on com lunch with us like we

16:02

can leave

16:03

me oh ya ya go to lunch

16:05

like have

16:06

the

16:08

the my if you school on the

16:10

east coast without permission you'd be

16:12

suspended yeah woody woody talking about here

16:15

and we went to a place called jr suffer

16:18

and i didn't know existed in

16:20

the back out literally in the back of his subaru

16:22

hatchback like crawl the new guy they

16:25

pointed tamarack parking in

16:27

the eaten in their talk and and speaking this way

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language and i see someone stand up and they're like

16:32

talking about surfing nothing yeah

16:34

seen that before new i were no

16:36

way the yeah was have

16:39

been on tour with my the year before and

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will really the paul simon grayson

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to there was a guy would come

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when we were in sydney

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he would com the each day be

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part of the local of showing he'd

16:51

serve before work and stages surf put

16:54

on me said the the stage rigging and i what

16:56

is i told me that be like you're

16:58

taking and sigma see them with his i like man

17:00

i can't take it but i'll tell you where to go

17:02

in it threw me on

17:04

i got on the ferry to ponder i one afternoon

17:07

went sat down by the sandwich and i want

17:09

these two kids lock

17:12

out of the beach he told me what time to go in

17:15

a series two kids paddle out

17:17

and they stood out

17:19

so what the fuck is

17:22

break dancing the a break

17:24

dancing on water at

17:27

life as the oh shit you

17:29

can break dance on water and

17:31

i just thought it was the the craziest thing

17:33

ever i said don't know when

17:35

or where if i ever get a chance to

17:37

do that howard way that i'm a do that was fifteen

17:40

the year before

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the are there was a i remember that tony

22:02

and we it was like we were in a nightclub

22:05

at his thing and then we just get pulled into the secret

22:08

room and now

22:09

do the job every join on earth is being

22:11

passed around were in the middle of like a recording

22:13

studio session and they're like here

22:15

to over the be yellow

22:18

, up there was this

22:20

was banned i don't remember what it

22:22

was so it was a hippopotamus we were we

22:24

hippopotamus was in dc i was thinking that

22:27

six months the i get you know it's going

22:29

to lie down and it's to me like i knew i

22:31

knew of your dad and new leader was but i

22:33

had never seen the reaction that he gets

22:36

when people were like yes

22:38

and it was a weird thing grown up in

22:40

crowded because

22:42

know what do you your dad was right

22:44

i got a and an adult

22:46

would you feel like you're laughing opening

22:48

the nebula like

22:51

like like human scale like every once in a

22:53

while but like my whole way

22:55

into like even when i started my

22:58

started transworld when i was answering the phones i

23:00

member grant britain comes walking

23:02

up to the front as a few days need you know brands

23:04

that super chill inside

23:07

seeking that

23:09

units account right

23:11

yeah that's my dad goes

23:15

and

23:18

as he just walked that emanates i got

23:20

like

23:21

the be cool with

23:23

with grant but he was like one of them the

23:25

one person in the building who was like holy

23:27

shit you must kill son is answering

23:29

phones as the receptionist

23:31

at sandro what was the for doing

23:34

oh thing

23:36

commentary stuff the trans world

23:39

like

23:40

so

23:42

when i got the ipad when i got that job

23:44

it was i derive i mean

23:46

it felt like i broke into

23:48

the prison

23:50

yeah go get a can't get out this

23:52

is alan what next and so i

23:54

read yeah would go

23:57

go to like

23:59

the

23:59

photography snowboard photography

24:02

whoever editorial like what he has

24:04

need done stuff on bulbs but whatever just

24:06

showed people that i was down member

24:09

like david daves swift invited me to

24:11

lunch ah cast okay

24:14

these guys are you can watch less as yeah

24:17

okay got grab my shit you know

24:21

in it was it was such a unique time to

24:23

there's only like pm maybe twenty five people

24:25

work there when i sort work

24:27

remember you come in and ones below

24:29

are you calling for grant one time be

24:31

like if this was saying that horse that seconds

24:33

on young and ,

24:36

they everything and thick as guess with voice

24:38

have a

24:40

channel publications this is summer skill

24:42

and help you

24:45

they were doing bought it

24:48

and member louise bama

24:50

yes i have a good story just

24:52

got gawker he has a louis bomber who

24:54

who ran like all the events for transworld

24:57

she was loud and energetic and i could

24:59

hear her like prance him up and down heard

25:02

her and now was out camping friend

25:04

friend richard of their their produce misled

25:07

and

25:09

near the france we don't have host

25:12

one guy who's going to be the m c a cat

25:14

and then there's a deterrent or our names and and i finally

25:16

just like i do home

25:19

ran turn around

25:21

really

25:22

the yeah i can absolutely do bullshit

25:25

but yes i i could do and she

25:27

remembered that like i was entertaining at the

25:29

but christmas party or

25:31

i think karaoke or something in kind

25:33

of by like

25:35

hyped up and actually might enjoy

25:37

the christmas party and the and you can sang

25:39

and i could say and

25:42

so she gave me my first are supported

25:44

was mine

25:46

was my first deal

25:48

and that that that was the that's

25:51

what started it that's what i went out there

25:53

and i didn't know what was gonna do and

25:55

i'd just so i'd i'd just went full

25:57

ride in the summer associate

25:59

the summit of em i know that ever happened yet point

26:02

of tiros i

26:04

remember that first line of a port of powers of the headliners

26:07

and if they had avert ramp up there

26:09

the snowboarding tripled

26:11

it was all like to raise awareness

26:13

of around aids and hiv which was for

26:15

the time he was like ninety four

26:17

day progressive super super

26:19

super progressive and they did it with

26:22

with lightspeed they don't yeah i'm live

26:24

they made me them see

26:27

and i just went out there and did like a robin williams good

26:29

morning vietnam

26:32

just rent good mornings now santa

26:34

admit that i just kinda went off and

26:36

i got the sage animals

26:38

that was amazing i called my

26:41

and that was that was those

26:43

my style i remember that

26:45

i went to those course and

26:48

i remember watching you got

26:50

that did like really

26:52

knows how to do says no because said

26:54

that if we had we had dave duncan

26:56

has hit events right daylong is awesome but

26:59

you know we never had anyone the was bring it all together like that

27:01

and then i was like sam and then correct

27:04

me if i'm wrong but we got invited not

27:07

long after that to go to the floor writer event yes

27:09

in norway

27:11

the and

27:12

hum like zelda creator the flow rider guy

27:14

who was inviting all of us it was

27:16

there

27:17

it was christmas miller

27:21

though

27:22

though brian yeah be a beaker

27:25

you're gonna lie and incident last

27:27

couple a couple other big wave surfer yeah

27:30

and and

27:33

and ah sorry time ask

27:35

me

27:36

do you know who could m c this

27:38

like that who's the did board

27:40

it yeah like

27:43

that like sell summers gala

27:46

he the guy and i didn't have gone to

27:48

the europe one to the to the scanner one

27:50

but i did the one san diego

27:51

that's that because he

27:53

and now i got you into the one and know adding oh no

27:56

some reason it work out of the i was

27:59

the way bro the a broker yeah i was

28:01

was gonna one answer i did we did the

28:03

one in i wasn't the hotel

28:06

when i counted the way broke yeah and i was about

28:08

to for hop on a flight to their yeah

28:10

and then like now but out that's

28:12

how it started it was little things like that

28:14

and i never yeah i'm not a i gave slim

28:16

is break there was a bad he was

28:19

a lot of people did that for me then

28:23

i remember there was a guy up member that show planet

28:25

x yeah the are so

28:27

that was first tv good

28:29

and that guy was just a hustler

28:32

it added to the highest order but he got

28:34

stuff on tv and

28:36

forgive i think i think i'm when

28:39

i saw you do that yeah norway yeah

28:41

but i'm i'm missing you do it now like oh man

28:43

that looks like obama

28:46

it was was tough but

28:48

he has hosted and shop or something at

28:50

one of the board aids and they needed some an interview

28:52

you

28:53

the guy comes after these you

28:56

know tony hawk yeah

28:59

i but i know we'd met a few times at point

29:01

then i guess you can interview him me

29:04

as a next you know you and i sit

29:06

on the ramp up voided am

29:09

having having an hour

29:11

and an ass where it is like you should be the host

29:13

to myself

29:14

in a little that i know that i've never make a dollar but

29:16

that was i give

29:19

the dander and do the lot of credit because

29:21

that show you know you call

29:23

me but i got this is thing and women and we were

29:25

just go and we'd never have pass or anything

29:28

success psych start talking

29:31

your bullshit are way behind backstage and

29:34

he would take advantage of fact that i knew people than

29:37

am that was my first like that

29:39

was that was that was public access television

29:41

but that back then there's no lala

29:44

channels or whatever you people live here saw

29:46

you on your planet x do like ah

29:48

sure i know what that means i don't have a car

29:51

and i barely have a job system a young

29:53

people saw you do nothing and duncan i

29:56

got to give dave credit you

29:58

know i would we be at the trade

29:59

in san diego the axis was vetoed

30:02

ratio

30:03

then he was the master

30:05

of via he was messing things up boys

30:07

the mastered the voice of skating

30:10

and so i whenever i get a break i would just

30:12

go and like poster the classroom

30:14

personal i pay attention wasn't

30:16

a virgin i

30:19

just pay attention to him and that's how i learned

30:22

how that's how island tricks

30:24

was from day

30:25

in one day

30:27

he'd see me at something and he goes

30:29

i'm gonna go to lunch

30:31

the you do this next seminars i ah

30:33

yeah they did it

30:36

it went over pretty good

30:38

in a is our people were like i wouldn't

30:40

put your schedule and duncan co-sign

30:42

me didn't didn't get salty and

30:45

always big up me

30:46

that was a vow is how i

30:48

got i see

30:50

the to get like some really good thread

30:52

i yeah we're to our to travel and i was

30:54

working on planet earth

30:56

the time but when you when you

30:58

laugh at yourself up for boarded

31:00

without them than your pining to do know is just

31:02

so automobile l dot l

31:04

like i said the whole time that sandro

31:06

that opportunity new i want

31:08

to be receptions for us my life

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31:13

on the side for diane this woman diane

31:15

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31:17

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31:20

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mean so whenever an opportunity came

35:00

it felt right in my gut i would

35:02

you speak up and that that bought a thing

35:04

was the huge huge

35:06

when i ended up doing all of the

35:09

next like getting csm got

35:11

any

35:12

i remember my had a lot ah

35:16

i think he did sir he did you entered

35:18

couple the the final one

35:21

and then sata you ever

35:24

when was the first x games you that

35:27

x games i did was ninety nine

35:30

damn i was late

35:32

the the tbc didn't take for a while

35:34

my i was trying but

35:37

they were using your back then they

35:39

were use and all like he has are ya by and

35:41

and yeah renders super

35:43

super and us and

35:46

i would try to get like

35:48

trust me i was off when and they'd slide

35:50

show or whatever

35:52

and it was i gotta ago

35:54

the mtb sports music

35:56

ah yeah that was

35:58

was

35:59

bruce like real thing

36:02

the made said no to meet twice

36:04

and hired some like random checks

36:06

finally this guy rod

36:08

acer through you know

36:10

carl how heroes yet he was how can't

36:13

call has some poll that carl hair mcv

36:16

shut up draw corporal harris for

36:19

for me

36:20

in now not even just add that

36:22

m t v he got me this other show called

36:24

board wilde which i got

36:26

out a plan of action dot on board while

36:28

with this guy produced another kind of has the legs

36:31

on durban what he paid

36:33

sometimes of and we got to go places

36:36

in coral was call was running

36:38

a swat team he up and had this watch

36:40

budget and he told the crowd told this guy's

36:42

if you don't my guy so we're

36:45

pulling our money which he couldn't a

36:49

, promo for sarah feel

36:51

like we're pulling our money from you so any

36:53

like ah alright

36:55

in that was that was the thing

36:57

that led to mtv

36:59

in in e p n saw

37:01

they saw me on him to his was mrs vessel

37:04

ipa this are they were asking around

37:06

and they say they heard good things in it for me people

37:08

in the industry about me then

37:11

they sent this guy fill orleans to

37:13

breckenridge so

37:15

password in nineteen ninety nine i'm a refill

37:18

yeah i had left they had left

37:20

planet earth and and went to start alphanumeric

37:23

with with only ah shit america

37:26

and

37:28

i was there with are so wouldn't

37:30

a brick i wasn't announcer else that

37:33

sitting at a bar after the first contest

37:36

there's triple crown so what that

37:38

when when the back when ma'am

37:41

when what's his name would be there flip and

37:43

hot dogs and stuff at the at that every concert

37:45

a stevedore amazed you

37:48

can are you doing just that that and

37:51

anna sky comes

37:55

up it's ass man the show at the bar were couple

37:57

beers and

37:58

as you would be at the end of content

37:59

that's you know it's to build towards

38:02

the night opera pray or

38:04

pray before for the fullest sense and

38:07

he says excuse me are you saw

38:09

massacre yea

38:11

said i'm phil orland summer i'm

38:14

the a executive producer of snowboarding

38:16

from the has been accent i'm looking for you i

38:19

up in my or seat and

38:24

whoever

38:26

good this guy up to his ah

38:30

photo way

38:32

not funny sat back down

38:35

that's fucked up again this

38:37

time is holding my the really

38:40

high quality youth red letter

38:42

embossed business ,

38:44

and sure enough it says fill fucking orleans

38:47

executive producer snowboarding

38:49

this athletic and to me as

38:52

like oh i'm

38:54

sorry wow hey nice

38:56

to meet you they can we talk not in here they

38:59

bought a six pack and when in the will in a hotel

39:01

lobby and

39:04

i told him

39:05

he being that sucked about

39:07

the exit

39:08

yeah for like two hours hey

39:10

go including summer

39:12

including some the like i just read

39:14

him for phil

39:16

about how horrible it was what

39:19

it was doing to to the culture and

39:21

how yeah the athletes were getting married but like

39:23

what the fuck you guys are destroying our thing

39:26

right yeah we know and that's why

39:28

i'm here he said

39:30

we want you to to the one see if you be interested

39:33

in come out and be in the sideline reporter for

39:35

snowboarding at winner into

39:37

that will be like your edition financing

39:39

know listen i'll

39:41

tell you everything that's wrong with this thing but i am

39:44

absolutely not just i don't think it's

39:46

good fine lol

39:48

finish algorithms to why

39:51

home get back to work that more that

39:53

monday were at often mack

39:56

have an armani media against guy came up

39:58

to me given a report of of everything

40:00

with team and like as guy from x games said

40:03

that they were looking for me to to to

40:06

a sideline reporter at winner axioms

40:08

like what you sales i know told

40:10

him it ever suck and like what like what

40:12

idiot

40:13

and i'll yasir

40:14

that

40:15

the

40:17

you could go there

40:19

in make a decision again and change

40:21

the game your and i did

40:23

no you know me they

40:25

we will talk with andrew you didn't hear that agency

40:28

yeah member who were talking to do so before we came

40:30

up you talk about his special

40:32

return all things is doing is i

40:34

yeah i hope so i

40:36

was like that was my mentality was like mentality

40:38

yeah like i'm a know that i'm i the

40:41

doing different not to the

40:43

point where like i could change something or have an

40:45

impact i'm just right the i'm just trying

40:47

to be here and you

40:49

know we had his company that was gaining momentum in

40:52

a kick the shit out of my boys omar

40:56

we're gonna go and i'll yasir

40:58

and so when phil called the

41:00

follow up call two days later

41:02

to be like are you still stuck on stupid are you

41:04

understand rather okay yep mm

41:07

it got me out there for two weeks for fifty bucks

41:13

on honor play you let's

41:15

go yeah sounds cool mm

41:18

yeah that was that's when everything started

41:20

and at the end of that x games

41:22

the guys are coming down from

41:24

iran's they're like law and

41:26

they'd never the mad at me is

41:28

peter with that they knew either

41:30

yeah or that the one to talk these guys ever seen

41:32

in when they knew or was it's off to and

41:35

the as kinda never seen them stoked to do an interview

41:38

i wasn't good that

41:40

i was good it like

41:42

how can she hadn't and i had the

41:44

energy added know how to be a broadcaster at

41:47

the end of it

41:49

they came up to me and as a d anything about skateboarding

41:52

as a yeah no couple things

41:54

i can you in virginia beach in two weeks

41:56

sure

41:57

that's how it started

41:59

and

42:00

this guy jamie reynolds took me under

42:02

his wing and he was i arrive we're

42:04

the training you imaging yeah

42:07

remember when when we would

42:10

get on mike for the skate events

42:12

article two years was in our air

42:14

yes and where i watched

42:17

you the and ah

42:19

i really why was you weave in and out

42:21

of other sports come in

42:24

the when reads and i i see this

42:26

guy is next level us under

42:28

the new so the say her

42:31

has really been no one out i remember

42:34

when you became i got when i was supposed to do

42:36

those that are already that i know but about it but

42:38

i've been coming from i

42:41

think i didn't see all the the beer the

42:43

other words you're putting into it the

42:45

and and the and and we would throw you

42:47

on the ramp yeah or that's how

42:49

i knew he was doing some different he

42:52

gets to me when i got i got but will watch and

42:55

i would watch everyone thinks by the way our

42:57

ear and was just like to would it out

43:00

thought you were no i don't know and you're listening

43:03

and you're talking and then you'd spit out

43:05

with they had only two the high

43:08

as i took i took i really did

43:10

and they they put me through they'd

43:12

fly me that connecticut in

43:15

i do like these seminars be

43:17

at a seminar for like three days and are

43:19

full journalism maybe like two

43:21

hours just sunlight interviews and

43:24

what thought to ask and

43:26

common in that a commercial and

43:28

storytelling in this is why this works and

43:30

and the theme of an event i just

43:34

a new sitting with like you know the best

43:36

people in football baseball football these

43:38

world class folks you know that susie colbert

43:41

then the other guy i'm

43:43

gonna feel so bad i can't remember his name

43:45

that they were original host the alliums they

43:47

read they were the first ones be like this can obvious

43:50

that the

43:53

they looked out for me

43:56

i was i think you

43:58

know they were using lot people come across the sports

44:00

but i don't think anybody else had an in my

44:04

you it and it was a certain point about a year into it

44:06

was

44:07

i think they didn't want to do

44:09

in them yeah i remember

44:11

when i got the opportunity to looking

44:13

for a sideline guy

44:15

like alice yeah

44:17

bitch you regretted that he

44:20

, to how be so much other

44:23

retired ever hear ya i river so

44:25

river river i i this fun experience

44:27

the in between you guys and i'd be

44:29

watching you on the martyr getting ready and

44:31

you like what

44:33

don't forget not i don't know

44:35

the best one i give us information

44:38

about the vessel was

44:39

fuck it it into my ear know

44:41

that of with you wanna fuck do some of the pockets

44:44

of your because i know it's a sad

44:46

cel go to my

44:47

hey buddy he could hear you are

44:51

oh fucking a somebody these

44:53

it's always been by federal budget i

44:55

was never apologetic in

44:57

every way like i was like a citizen like

45:00

fire , from down

45:03

it was him i get it was so much that

45:05

you know that i remember some good

45:07

i'd be just begging at that i said

45:09

we're club i'm like no you can't clip them here's why

45:12

the that and

45:14

ah the city on those days were were

45:16

find a minute i start off with miller he

45:18

was first call which was awesome because

45:21

i'd worked for chris app planet earth i'm

45:24

in rhythm and audio for

45:26

not for a few years yeah so when that

45:29

was

45:29

we were i was really lucky that way because it's just

45:31

like art which his buddies right and

45:34

i got to do with you the and

45:36

it was yeah just

45:38

was so those years were self of the the

45:41

are there for thirteen years when

45:43

i mean does those ones the in

45:45

that park or six yeah six your

45:47

pocket thousand anywhere of air

45:49

we did the sewers walking kirby's get into that

45:52

to that some people keep asking about yeah

45:54

the tour's we did the to or as well that's

45:56

when it became the may i'd i did not enjoy

45:59

myself

45:59

i was a i

46:02

was still

46:03

caught up in

46:04

try to be real deal holyfield

46:06

and these people were clearly

46:08

exploiting skateboarding from money and

46:10

i was still finding

46:12

my i com be

46:14

on your side

46:16

i'm on their sort of the united states

46:18

the actively the but i knew

46:21

i was good was too into

46:23

partying to when

46:26

so i knew spirited that

46:28

me on the microphone are accepted that

46:30

as much as i hated it but it was just was fact

46:33

it was like

46:33

get sober sad training and when and then don't

46:35

do the microphone thing them not

46:38

now i'm gonna say i'm going to do sorry

46:40

i'm going up them going to do may

46:42

this is what i do with it but we didn't have

46:44

a lot of

46:46

overseers are are we

46:49

aren't sure was we had a and and

46:51

then see more got hurting anybody

46:54

was supposed to the guy was overseeing the

46:56

budget is overseen the budget

46:58

i think he was kind of bad too

47:01

oh like

47:02

it a go between and make sure that we didn't burn

47:05

sit down did the best the to if he added a flat

47:07

said do not do that he

47:09

knew we do it says we

47:11

had to be like look he did but i as

47:13

probably not the greatest of i have a hundred

47:15

i guess probably this a neighbor

47:18

are often doesn't like a

47:20

, have a lot but said

47:22

as he did but

47:24

yeah i'll never forget that never

47:26

forget us

47:27

the for our first the first thing we did

47:30

the first thing we did on the first

47:32

stop of the first or

47:35

was the way for

47:37

vienna incisors

47:41

the didn't texas women would want to daggers that's

47:43

where the way we the first the first start with san

47:45

diego said is weird we we all live

47:47

in san diego

47:48

in fact autonomous in valley woodland

47:50

she was like okay we're gonna the day

47:52

and then we hit the road

47:54

that's things got real

47:57

ugly , you're the successor

48:00

i'd say this to kids ask me all the time

48:02

when our kids grown ass men with families

48:04

is to tell me they still watch

48:07

the have the vhs as him and watch

48:09

them privately

48:11

with their friends there was like

48:15

you know that that that tour that

48:17

was shape my life they tell

48:19

stories about what that talk that tore

48:22

men to them i don't

48:24

think we realized that at time the

48:27

by that we would have any impact it was more like yeah

48:29

our highjinks yeah here's skating that's

48:32

how we've i was our approach for sure i'm vey

48:34

also the same time very happy that we there

48:37

was no social and time because

48:40

i don't think we will you

48:43

, lot of in our gave it i would these sites

48:48

is here to tell me that i could turn to find out and

48:50

tell the world what i'm thinking i

48:53

was thinking a lot stuff added to a cat

48:55

that they were there was not or that of in

48:57

a nice it was pretty

48:59

it was amazing tony there was

49:01

a baseline one the highlight i have but i do feel

49:04

like it's and i think you guys were were

49:06

add to the key figures absolutely

49:08

we have lot of side is coming in now we had a lot

49:10

of talent you guys were that that

49:12

kept it going and and those

49:14

and made it meaningful

49:17

in the programming was

49:19

hard to get a lot of the skaters

49:21

were just skating yeah and they weren't

49:25

we're coming out where we are interviews and still yeah

49:27

that was i live our the aggies when albany

49:29

like went my time to get on my yeah

49:31

but email interviews i live in late at night

49:34

and yeah and long people

49:36

would come from the bar to the interview

49:38

and as a as as circles

49:40

images marvel

49:42

i marveled at alice's ability to

49:44

like

49:45

one of your list of lofty

49:48

we your soup one of your superpowers was

49:50

the fucking read the crowd in

49:53

a given like ri it's time for a emma

49:57

would be happening and then else would

49:59

be like scoping the be like all right where's

50:02

there's gotta be something he had a but get this fast

50:04

sometimes else would just come and take the might for me like

50:06

a w w e bay

50:08

yeah

50:09

he will go down as a gorilla yeah

50:12

he's a southern africa but his day around

50:15

upgrade up i'd be doing this will not

50:17

escape just seem to jump off a

50:19

thing up and about the garage

50:22

and him you the bike and indo climate

50:24

some fucking thing try

50:26

to kill himself you know bomb dropping

50:29

there was his fault

50:30

i got whole idea because he would do make

50:33

twist the first ride the sisters and i

50:35

was like i needed as the ended up at

50:37

the end of the demo i might make requests

50:39

and he did what did he first arrived and emma

50:42

watson this shit everybody

50:44

else who you get it he's got you

50:46

fucking hated already

50:49

so all of us are just b

50:51

team and am ralph

50:54

there because i know all you idiots you don't know shit

50:56

device that you'll be like whoa just

50:59

tony hawk was it that one year

51:01

old guy fucking from the robbers i

51:03

knew it and i was people

51:06

said related meadows so your

51:08

job of the theater my dear

51:10

the united a big very langer the

51:13

scale they've here

51:14

the area by the second second

51:16

year people be like do it i get

51:20

off without a blame for everything and

51:22

i'm and really okay

51:25

this to ah have

51:28

been with subduing

51:31

laws he said those are of

51:33

subduing memorized the aside moratoriums on my

51:35

nick swisher like noted moratoriums a not

51:37

in the first five room

51:39

there one time i tried to whether tell

51:42

him to be super excited about my

51:44

smithkline

51:46

the try to get people to think that my smith ones

51:48

that ah my desire

51:51

freak out when i do it is did

51:53

i did a word and work now

51:54

how's that

51:56

i mean bam

51:59

no shown up from

52:02

seek a wide to hear coming

52:04

on tour on shaun

52:07

white learning how to we taught

52:09

him mad oh

52:11

yeah i'm blackjack on the bus black site yeah

52:15

i'm in a check the got written from

52:17

the blackjack game oh yeah

52:19

while you're worried threat threat

52:22

cameraman who was the

52:24

main camera man yasser was

52:26

the dealer

52:28

always played the dealer corzine dogs are in

52:30

his favor fan he by made so much

52:32

money more money thousand dollars with him and he

52:34

he built new

52:37

addition to his house yet

52:40

family was a mentor

52:42

a one year

52:45

i forget how much rest in peace dave

52:47

mere though a fucking crazy

52:49

chat

52:50

the check was so big that

52:52

trent asked daves to sign

52:54

his bike we get hanging up in

52:56

that room and the bill and i went never gonna trans

52:58

house and he had this room built in there was that is

53:00

a get this is rumored a we're don't have lost

53:05

it as we go day by never had already

53:07

saw by yeah shaun shaun could add

53:09

and he pay that i did yeah he got

53:11

so far into debt that

53:13

that he had to get his mom involved an

53:17

estuary before gave him and he

53:19

did anyway he crowd was not

53:21

like trent know he did what

53:23

he was what kid

53:24

you don't play them i remember sean with

53:26

wins when sean figure was real and

53:29

many of their may been

53:31

tears a subset out

53:33

when his mom got involved and then sent forgave

53:36

him yeah he thought it was fake the whole

53:38

time designer was real when he

53:40

was i think he just wasn't really a never

53:42

been school other gear if you're

53:44

sit at this table and it was only like

53:46

three of them that has actual money the

53:48

rest of us were fucking

53:50

for yeah i was like you know we're

53:52

what's up the or five hundred am i gonna zoc

53:54

analogy is it about what a dot i'm

53:56

not around five hundred cel now and

53:59

i'm like

53:59

you

54:00

mirror

54:02

and so why haven't

54:04

you have any kids that anyone else i've got a

54:06

job like ever going to get some had made payments

54:10

when yeah i think i are doing

54:12

that they know i wasn't doing really

54:14

really a mug i remember my drinking

54:16

saved me a few times as much about

54:18

i'm going to go back of bus yeoman and and probably

54:21

say be couple thousand of us out i've ever

54:23

done some baggage didn't believe in the frigid

54:25

i look at his advice yeah

54:27

i'm out of the gambling is good like is

54:29

unusual height of the vibe i remember from

54:32

you and i am link civil he is it was

54:34

now for analyzing talking you oh

54:36

yea it's a great pleasure to me

54:38

would be was hard oh bugger are you talked

54:40

about it on the so never seen at the fake

54:43

of , lottery like lot of

54:45

is still stuff still a

54:48

massive still a on needs huh

54:51

oh it's all youtube yeah

54:57

, but he wouldn't go that route five years

54:59

ago the fuck off the those

55:01

who did trent yeah

55:05

there are there ten thousand dollar i was like and all i did

55:07

was only scratched the when the

55:09

again it's like there was a the joy of winning

55:12

it just like i'm proud that i'm

55:14

back and i get a gamble more yeah that's

55:16

when you know you've got a brother yeah you all looked like

55:18

a had one but the last we saw each other we the

55:20

that livestream for subway

55:23

area and you tell me about the

55:25

ultimate prank

55:27

oh my god this one's good

55:29

out of your murders

55:30

remember when when bam

55:32

then we were in with

55:35

seen either wilmington or virginia

55:37

beach and he was wilmington

55:39

carolina

55:41

we have they had say went

55:43

to the front desk

55:46

then they got but for justice gave

55:48

him my hotel room key

55:49

okay i'm a win in

55:51

had gone to the store and they'd gotten plastic

55:54

wrap fit and they they

55:56

plastic wrap the toilet toilet

55:58

seats to that it would queer way

56:00

you know yeah so i had gonna go

56:03

and take a person splash

56:05

and i were allow the mayor it starts pm

56:08

richard pryor my bad

56:10

the left everything in loose

56:12

year when i get any would collapse

56:14

the

56:16

and a did yeah it did awesome

56:18

yeah they took the

56:20

batteries out of the remote

56:24

the my once i had everything together since

56:27

me to say on watching tv

56:29

no no

56:31

pretty savvy beds broken a tv doesn't

56:33

work they

56:35

it also began them

56:38

breaking it was one of those key that you

56:41

a , the key and

56:44

it mm

56:47

i don't old thing allotted with them or the

56:49

whole thing started with me needing me get security

56:52

to get into the room and then get

56:54

this t that's giant or down the act like an

56:56

outlay by from the by john

56:59

the name getting in and piss

57:01

all that thought and then suddenly

57:04

ah i don't remember you know

57:06

we'd have production meetings in the morning

57:08

the for storyline all that shit and

57:11

they moved my

57:14

my , in my room forward to ours ours

57:17

a nice a lot of work man i i i

57:19

hate to say but i feel like that's just got banned written

57:21

all over able to lead the way we haven't

57:23

rooftops famine yeah

57:26

genius yeah and i almost [unk] fatah i

57:29

like i couldn't get pissed bam but i'm wanted to fight

57:31

rooftop lived rooftop

57:34

another band the damage is like

57:36

this is melissa still like straight didn't

57:39

know you didn't know that he had a suit with uncommon

57:41

yeah is still snowbird this is still straight

57:43

as i don't drink this work in my

57:45

head was not strategy i was too

57:48

when it was first year on tour he i

57:50

was straight edge oh well

57:52

i don't have them as if he be in the back of the bus

57:54

is too fucking crunches to the idea

57:56

of being sat i remember that yeah but

57:58

but he did love

58:00

being in urbana been around partying it

58:02

up to the point where i thought he was yeah i bet

58:04

he was right is he was in and but i do any

58:07

run yeah that's a senior it

58:10

never so many funny those egypt murray jumped off

58:12

the balcony he jumped off the fucking

58:14

roof or hotel into the sent to i got

58:16

five foot yeah

58:18

somehow didn't

58:20

oh why of at

58:22

mass

58:24

i think i told the story on the same show with

58:26

the

58:27

the magic stuff that i bought the porn

58:29

a drink in it makes drink our

58:31

how i was remember

58:34

though what it is fucking on it and it

58:37

didn't go hot he went to see

58:39

them it before to gotten hod yeah and

58:41

i watched you start the poor like a glove jill

58:43

[unk] yeah it a mean i was like not as he gets

58:45

a good idea because you did i jotted is a dusty

58:47

spring going to a liquid yet

58:49

and entering the drink are hard when he went to poor

58:51

to bespoke did not come out yeah but

58:54

opposite i think like somebody was how we

58:56

knew that a cell and he's like yeah about

58:58

which in the drink and then he does the

59:00

me we grabbed it and went to drink it and

59:02

it started to like i i served

59:04

pouring into mouth of the

59:07

the he thought that

59:09

i was try to help

59:10

the i know that i'd put it in

59:13

a house broken hearted say like

59:15

your my guy like

59:17

we men with know that but

59:19

it

59:19

it was all me he was going to fight mcafee is

59:21

other that guy eddie was i put my

59:24

drink and other essays i

59:26

i'm the guy i did at all

59:29

he was is like father or maybe

59:31

ah i don't know how i rank that he does as he

59:33

did i hate are you but i'm not going to hit us

59:35

yeah but i was ever going to hit by and i i

59:37

saw that you if

59:40

i do or other go is chris

59:42

didn't he didn't try if you

59:44

like he aware and i why views are targeted

59:47

the wasn't a fucking skater yeah

59:50

because of that think there was this iowa to him

59:52

it was an underlying thing applies

59:55

oh is he down remember

59:57

like i mean that's how the that's even how the

59:59

fuck

59:59

tampa route drop happen

1:00:02

when when danny started talking on

1:00:04

the right yeah

1:00:05

and i thought it was like kind of a job

1:00:07

and then he was like i'm serious union

1:00:10

fucking ski bert like how are you fucking announcing

1:00:13

us a cameras around what's

1:00:15

what's going on a rose what

1:00:17

he was slightly joking

1:00:19

because i was i was a part of it yeah

1:00:21

i wanted you to make it because i you could make it right

1:00:24

but how the conversation has are the conversation

1:00:26

started was in the midst of all

1:00:28

the other momentum he took advantage to the hat

1:00:30

or yeah i'd i'd loved any for it it's want

1:00:33

best days i'm alive

1:00:34

i agree it was huge it was

1:00:36

using this guide if it wasn't for hours

1:00:38

i don't think i would have actually been done authentic

1:00:40

because he sat me down is like look

1:00:43

i believe that was getting kicked off the talk

1:00:46

that insane but if if if i

1:00:48

did make it like the sega well i

1:00:50

by now you what i did believe it it it

1:00:52

was kind of like that scene he said about that other guy that was

1:00:54

like i'll pull the the money and he didn't

1:00:56

have the power to pull the money yeah that was was

1:00:59

without danny was even have shit the poblano

1:01:01

sensible i was you did as he did it you want i also

1:01:03

it's daily parking way

1:01:05

my new knowing that is enough

1:01:08

like you know in that like i i does

1:01:10

i'm gonna

1:01:11

my my my best

1:01:13

here

1:01:14

the to come in at the

1:01:16

on the request

1:01:18

in an editor and i'm going to a potentially get

1:01:20

so be yeah and i try to tell ya

1:01:22

like oh you gotta do is to me to it

1:01:24

and that's gonna break it again they

1:01:26

going to go look maybe not probably didn't grow

1:01:29

up zoc and ride mike and i'm are like a maniac

1:01:31

like we did these part of a team

1:01:33

because i don't care if you good he just has to be

1:01:35

to said to be committed yeah and i knew that

1:01:37

if he did that it would set people up i

1:01:39

knew earlier i didn't like you when you're first

1:01:41

major because you didn't skate and you i

1:01:44

the an answer my has a fucking the now seems

1:01:47

what smoking five whammy doesn't

1:01:49

he get knocked out there are zoc in braindead

1:01:52

over here is cause the announcer i remember

1:01:54

but then i saw the passion

1:01:57

and his ass the

1:01:59

back in i'm surprised caught it

1:02:02

the he loves

1:02:04

the doesn't matter is you're good at it

1:02:06

you love it so of your lover and

1:02:08

then also probably being an answer seen

1:02:11

that he had this capability

1:02:13

of getting

1:02:14

the the normal people of the world to

1:02:16

understand scaperotti make our sport

1:02:19

bigger and more respected

1:02:21

and at that time i wanted that far as i wanted

1:02:23

us to be some are some told

1:02:26

me like i'm some fucking criminal like

1:02:28

i'm a professional skateboarder it's a fucking same

1:02:30

man a moment had the skill

1:02:32

to bring

1:02:34

people yeah to under say

1:02:36

an ass and i was you consider him for not

1:02:38

doing a five forty shots your name

1:02:40

for

1:02:41

you're not in here get a checking be famous

1:02:43

no one loves the fucking game i

1:02:46

want once i realized that i had an

1:02:48

opportunity to help move

1:02:50

once i realized that there were millions

1:02:53

of kids that were going route would be

1:02:55

to have the opportunity to be com skateboarders

1:02:58

see it on tv

1:03:00

that they would they would see this thing

1:03:02

and then go but aren't again on an

1:03:04

authentic perspective get that it was not

1:03:07

and i like look at that aunt lived in

1:03:09

get enough of like the storytelling and know

1:03:11

and why

1:03:12

and then skateboarding would take care of them that's

1:03:14

when knew what my role us and i

1:03:17

just myself in the that put the

1:03:19

a in you know of our bike

1:03:21

i tell ya time i'm super

1:03:23

grateful for the manner in which he how many seekers

1:03:25

and i remember the beginning mean

1:03:27

then you knew what he or like know

1:03:30

the he got a fucking

1:03:32

got it back up and you gotta do this i told

1:03:34

you it wasn't right yeah i think it's not

1:03:36

right this is what is half years so

1:03:38

were you in the end of it as i can you do

1:03:40

that he might he nailed it he's mckinley why

1:03:43

was it that we did three years of

1:03:45

those two or three three two or as yeah that

1:03:47

was allowed as thou wilt thou was definitely

1:03:49

one of the top simon skyn to

1:03:51

her abs i was the last one of the five loudest

1:03:54

crowds i've never been in on a dude

1:03:56

drop any added

1:03:58

cannabis at to tampa is

1:04:01

like know job that's

1:04:03

that's where the hardcore skiers our area that's

1:04:05

not degenerate they do is we had your

1:04:07

back like a daddy said that and i said

1:04:09

despair at one point i remember being

1:04:12

with the microphone at the transition saying

1:04:14

to him

1:04:15

this is where you'll the impact is

1:04:17

assess as long

1:04:20

, i'm interviewing you still

1:04:23

still be like what of was got a motivation

1:04:26

is that am i saw me they're just got a

1:04:29

separate of but everybody else is that

1:04:32

we're he never he gave not five forty

1:04:34

guy but jacobs been a

1:04:37

fucking asshole to him on the microphone

1:04:39

and he's like forget do job and in and fell

1:04:42

slammed i got this is the i mean

1:04:44

it was yup know us to do as i got the

1:04:46

says every time he went back up the stairs bit

1:04:48

more than the dropping feels like he's

1:04:50

not gonna stop and that that experience

1:04:53

was

1:04:55

it opened my eyes and thousand percent

1:04:58

to be it

1:04:59

like cetera

1:05:01

game many ramps eccentric but like

1:05:03

fucking go up and stand up and do battle

1:05:06

with like big transition and and

1:05:09

it does it changed my entire perspective

1:05:11

of what i thought i

1:05:13

i already had an immense with respect but that

1:05:15

was just like

1:05:17

what it filled me with them when it gave me moving

1:05:19

forward was like like a superpower

1:05:22

i'll never forget that day i phones great

1:05:24

get a lot of stuff when i will get like funny or for that

1:05:26

so i don't know i would exactly artists

1:05:29

, i felt like you were targeted mortgage

1:05:31

is like will solve late sometimes i was

1:05:34

human i miss i think i'm had

1:05:37

to draw i slept in oh yeah

1:05:39

yeah the i think there was time when the bus was everyone

1:05:42

on the bus and were like yeah have got to get an anxiety

1:05:44

rove i had to drive

1:05:46

had a that city rent a car that

1:05:48

of robert earl had scissor know how to drive

1:05:50

it's like another state

1:05:53

yeah

1:05:54

on the flipside of that job and experience

1:05:56

the remember the other time

1:05:59

when went

1:05:59

and we all had challenge ourselves

1:06:02

with old tricks to relearn probably

1:06:05

down mine there was one

1:06:07

skate park a can't read your that one fifth oh

1:06:10

that was one when i when i i'd i'd

1:06:12

quit i quit yeah we all

1:06:14

did yeah but we all we

1:06:16

all came in i'll never forget were on the bus

1:06:18

i'm like man on a real or and i said i live

1:06:20

for we learn from survive yeah

1:06:23

you add some than i can france i grow anything

1:06:26

job yeah conference i five hour jesse had

1:06:28

something they had something

1:06:30

hard flip say

1:06:32

then

1:06:33

you're like i'll drop in again so

1:06:35

we all made a pact and said whoever doesn't

1:06:37

do it is getting a mohawk right right

1:06:39

so we're on the but and that's it we're all going

1:06:42

in and over the course

1:06:44

of the demo we finally focusing

1:06:46

our challenge none

1:06:49

of us to do none of us into know

1:06:51

i try to i took a really good slam usages

1:06:53

super gnarly i'm oh

1:06:56

i ended up on on

1:06:58

, is what that feels like interesting

1:07:02

fire funny

1:07:04

remember that that guy who had the

1:07:07

we

1:07:09

went to that farm

1:07:11

then he had the most beautiful

1:07:13

the meant all set up oh yeah in

1:07:15

a barn the up and we had i'm afraid

1:07:18

is the best session i on

1:07:20

tour i don't think we weren't allowed to shoot

1:07:23

delon wright weren't allowed to shoot it evolved

1:07:25

by they were that does as he built a rogue

1:07:27

year from his for it and i'll

1:07:29

never forget that sessions those i

1:07:32

gotta a backside fifty two the corner

1:07:35

of this really know it gnarly corner

1:07:38

the new is thin right there you were like fuck

1:07:40

yeah

1:07:43

then i remembered that

1:07:45

was yeah

1:07:46

that was there without that was on the session that

1:07:48

that us and use this guy just like hold

1:07:51

open least it was like what the baseball movie

1:07:54

the drainage arabia he had a field

1:07:56

of dreams like dream pie was built

1:07:58

really well to was

1:07:59

yeah the place that we went the

1:08:02

the rowdy guy that had the

1:08:04

the beat up truck he took his bush bashing

1:08:07

until

1:08:07

like wrote the care of lowering

1:08:09

there was like the first five minutes that i out of

1:08:12

the bus number was as good salvia i think so

1:08:14

he was just i think well we want ram

1:08:16

soviet i don't think we will it'll

1:08:18

be on that tour

1:08:21

i'm long as kind in ohio

1:08:23

oh it was viva la bande salary to

1:08:25

go bambee i got off another van yeah

1:08:28

i got put in a car with some mohawk tattooed

1:08:30

diving they they they telling the hop i'd behind the

1:08:32

yeah yeah those term he just took off through the

1:08:34

woods

1:08:35

in hit a tree

1:08:37

the now the

1:08:40

rear end of the or category i don't worry i'm

1:08:42

a bargain other but i might i am i oh

1:08:44

i see what's happening i remember all this is a demo

1:08:47

the scares them

1:08:49

there's not good this might end up scaring

1:08:51

table as well as i pretended that i've been

1:08:53

amazed when a held it up like a fucking gone

1:08:55

and i get on my soon we're going to like a dot the

1:08:58

memo when they us run

1:09:00

wild it woodward and almost flip dot on

1:09:03

the

1:09:04

yeah

1:09:06

that is definitely try to get you to do that yeah

1:09:08

the crash in and i ended up on the

1:09:10

front wheels it

1:09:11

i'm for to go i would have died

1:09:13

though the idea

1:09:16

i just always senior

1:09:18

got serious as

1:09:22

, with him wherever he saw my sore spot

1:09:24

with cell cell him at all

1:09:26

at you

1:09:28

got a full will voted

1:09:31

movie or miniseries the

1:09:35

the french nine hundred the i wasn't

1:09:37

really nice no no i

1:09:39

will not william the french one hundred swallow

1:09:41

it color and school know and i'm so

1:09:44

happy bad us people i

1:09:46

got some angry emails of them i'm sure

1:09:48

he did member

1:09:50

yeah we're just making fun of the crowd

1:09:52

and i guess we were unaware but

1:09:55

we did you do fake one know i did a ah

1:09:57

the ramp was pretty and

1:09:59

i started trying some twenties and and people

1:10:02

were like nine , and others

1:10:05

okay and over the saw as i'd

1:10:07

thought he sounds like

1:10:09

i guess at the pensacola nine hundred ah

1:10:12

the imo we ran that we aired it

1:10:14

right and the people were there at that were there

1:10:16

were like we'd just think we're idiots like

1:10:18

make fun of us that we don't really know any

1:10:20

that stuff

1:10:22

the i would feel good and in ohio yeah with

1:10:24

as mans stay in school

1:10:26

can set

1:10:27

i have every

1:10:29

so all but three nine hundred that i got to witness

1:10:32

was there

1:10:34

we're not looking at lump in school but

1:10:39

the an paris

1:10:41

then another woodward woodward i

1:10:44

have all i've never watched those shirts in there are

1:10:46

signed and that hang no lag

1:10:48

oh that's super

1:10:50

the your shirt his my sure they

1:10:52

all say he would sign thanks

1:10:54

out nine hundred and eight

1:10:56

or nine hundred and didn't than

1:10:59

when i would like five bucks at

1:11:03

some point

1:11:05

i saw a skateboard from san francisco do

1:11:07

you that you be my the smithsonian

1:11:09

some now

1:11:11

the

1:11:12

the time i don't know it like please

1:11:14

know where that is yeah and i haven't

1:11:17

i know we're okay

1:11:18

that like muggles bought that he gave his i

1:11:20

knew that was due to shave my values

1:11:23

me

1:11:24

the un you look when you

1:11:26

when you look back on that day do you like

1:11:29

that was that they changed everything for all

1:11:31

of us

1:11:32

i got a i'm nine

1:11:34

hundred doesn't happen on that friday night

1:11:38

it

1:11:39

really think that that the

1:11:41

the domino effect of like the explosion

1:11:44

of the culture

1:11:45

that night change

1:11:48

everything it he was on and every

1:11:50

bar is no and six hours pretty

1:11:52

crazy you know me like the i've done all the we

1:11:54

its prime time on a friday

1:11:56

people are get calling each other be alive

1:11:59

yeah

1:11:59

sound didn't go to your t the if

1:12:02

you're in a bar every every one turn like

1:12:04

he was this moment

1:12:05

the just like and then it happened was sex

1:12:09

and say that it wouldn't have

1:12:11

happened

1:12:12

if i had

1:12:13

plan to try that that night

1:12:15

there's whenever i went with the intention

1:12:17

of do nine hundred

1:12:19

it was it was too much pressure on myself

1:12:22

the and

1:12:23

the ancient

1:12:24

and so that night i didn't planet

1:12:26

and then when i started trying it

1:12:28

the just sort of evolves

1:12:30

the to figure it out but it was it was crazy

1:12:33

that my first summer accidents

1:12:37

i don't the winner

1:12:39

they made they hired me summer

1:12:42

wow yeah

1:12:44

it was it was crazy that they let the feed go

1:12:46

that is not support the was really wild

1:12:48

me a day they let this lives

1:12:51

best trick hardest and i know people think

1:12:53

that this like biggest van and they had it all planned

1:12:55

out he wasn't and at that time

1:12:57

best trick events sideshows

1:13:00

yeah it was like after the contests

1:13:02

was moving around all tried as hard trig

1:13:04

maybe i'll get it think the people let it go

1:13:06

because of the people around you

1:13:09

we all change

1:13:12

occurs when we saw the we're going to get close i

1:13:14

felt like everybody there was like oh shit

1:13:16

if we help we will not wish him he's gonna

1:13:19

fucking do it today that was a

1:13:21

dow was a jamie reynolds

1:13:23

the drag

1:13:24

in a couple others making

1:13:26

an executive decision probably

1:13:29

other adam of you've ever heard the stories behind the scenes

1:13:31

but for sure there are people telling each other fuck

1:13:33

off the truck the we get the afghan that you're going

1:13:36

yep the idea that like skateboarding

1:13:38

is gonna run into sports center

1:13:40

janeway overcrowding sports

1:13:42

nine that's only reserved for golf and mps

1:13:45

i like a result in like though real

1:13:47

yet then

1:13:50

that happens and now they're extending

1:13:52

it all the way through we kept going

1:13:54

live and do an interview with everyone and but it was

1:13:56

a whole may be

1:13:59

the trees

1:13:59

like if you know

1:14:02

hi your head just shot fucking sixty four

1:14:05

and you a sports center like

1:14:07

this then what is it the

1:14:09

thing it week or whatever

1:14:11

the great hundred and has helped another we

1:14:13

would number one number one it was

1:14:15

crazy baseball baseball but i'm

1:14:17

thankful you guys we're there to help but

1:14:19

i mean i i couldn't have done a lot of support believe

1:14:21

i was on the fucking to this day yeah

1:14:26

why it all it's all very much a blur to me

1:14:29

and then when i'm in

1:14:31

on sam jones did the dark and i

1:14:33

saw all that behind the scenes footage

1:14:36

all are you guys with their mean

1:14:40

might so mortimer all the skaters add

1:14:42

a it was all just such a like wow

1:14:44

that's crazy only did the odds awesome

1:14:46

will i find that but i'd just now i

1:14:48

see it in hindsight at

1:14:50

all so many my peers in the people

1:14:53

i love and respect with their was crazy

1:14:55

i'm into looking at other people when

1:14:58

you got close

1:15:00

whereas i he could make that

1:15:02

and then i do look at me like one

1:15:04

of the other guys that knows what

1:15:07

that

1:15:08

they like

1:15:09

i know right about unless

1:15:12

i have you seen a fuck impose any more i thought

1:15:14

happening yeah like says

1:15:16

up opposed to lot of your i'm

1:15:18

a dildo nazis in on try to make

1:15:20

resin you're making the same is

1:15:22

worse

1:15:24

millions

1:15:26

dollars

1:15:28

amy letting that air to let

1:15:30

earlier

1:15:32

rocket just the you know i thought why

1:15:34

does up i thought as i thought it was

1:15:37

the guide i didn't think that it was still live

1:15:40

that you know any that that because because

1:15:42

of our of course yeah railway that is the

1:15:45

only i i can wear the dress that when i

1:15:47

love the as the other gums going to

1:15:50

do the trick done obviously now the boat ramp

1:15:52

yeah the only reason i know that

1:15:54

as i had a young the had earpiece that

1:15:57

was like oh shit

1:15:58

mcginn we don't go

1:15:59

event of a do that

1:16:02

every time a dogs they would you say good bye

1:16:04

we're done did it's like no one on the my ah

1:16:09

ha the

1:16:11

middle is that about the size a rabid size have to do

1:16:13

that the clothes he gotta go

1:16:16

not yet but get really close

1:16:19

it is oh baby

1:16:21

and an ode to the average it's

1:16:23

gonna have a good progress

1:16:27

the average he added do it you can admire

1:16:30

but they're not let us so it's

1:16:32

cool shit up to that degree ever lane

1:16:34

a a cases it kicked it open

1:16:36

and damn that's worth it for

1:16:38

me that was i was considering

1:16:40

not repeating after that year way

1:16:42

before that the not just kicked

1:16:44

in into high was okay i

1:16:47

don't want it can be a knock on the top the

1:16:49

moment in my career then

1:16:51

it led me to get do commentary with you

1:16:54

we got to the tourists them

1:16:56

and it was just so much fun so i'm so

1:16:58

thankful that would like that we got said that journey

1:17:00

together the and we

1:17:03

were all the dregs of her

1:17:05

her thera we suddenly got

1:17:07

really cool as

1:17:14

unknown i've ever lived give out with a that

1:17:17

would daddy in town over time in those days

1:17:19

were like the cool guys still

1:17:21

in every now and then we go somewhere like

1:17:23

ours may bug in a braggart tom's

1:17:25

like the saki talking

1:17:27

to him for the by a man

1:17:29

the money is there are a lot of ah

1:17:35

fuck it rare that on the rise recognizing

1:17:39

them not be recognized be like one of the most

1:17:41

satisfying moments of my life

1:17:43

so awesome so

1:17:45

the lemme what's next year what do do it now

1:17:47

what's next what's next

1:17:50

i only survived all those years

1:17:52

i started recording company or cofounded

1:17:54

ucla a clothing company called mommy water

1:17:56

that i'm doing alice

1:17:58

that it's the first south africans

1:17:59

brent

1:18:00

and basically the

1:18:02

idea was to do a

1:18:05

a surf lifestyle brand but totally

1:18:07

through the lens the african

1:18:09

serve content like odyssey

1:18:11

and always bands from cheyenne so cowed

1:18:13

cetera the my the that book in but not

1:18:15

as a sort of will we the but we

1:18:18

did the but did book afresa

1:18:20

so we started the ban i'll get yeah but

1:18:22

then the the book officer kind of when

1:18:25

lesser

1:18:27

into now i'm developing they are

1:18:29

for surface book into a show for

1:18:31

me the african serve not to south africa

1:18:33

know like the whole on cotton the yeah yeah

1:18:35

and it's been gone really really well yeah pop

1:18:38

ups store and and mckinney there

1:18:40

we open in on scientists of timber

1:18:42

and then you're trying to take this sir take

1:18:45

the efforts of book and basically do

1:18:47

travel shown show people what modern africa

1:18:50

like but music

1:18:52

food

1:18:53

also fashion but all to this

1:18:55

unlikely lens it's surfing

1:18:58

i went as i went on a subject descended on in

1:19:00

it was

1:19:02

miller

1:19:03

that are we do is in ah

1:19:05

is there a scene

1:19:07

yeah the a crazy scene

1:19:10

it read beyond comprehension and ways are amazing

1:19:12

and you surfing

1:19:14

having my perfect a frame

1:19:16

in front of the most shy and triple

1:19:18

minaret mosque ever in a

1:19:20

fishing village and

1:19:22

everyone's big warehouse nom skills

1:19:24

and bay skelton band media

1:19:27

yeah that's on my list i'm kind of terrified

1:19:29

of it but it gotta get it get it

1:19:31

i saw the other yeah and now is my first was

1:19:34

that that's the left the just barrels constantly

1:19:36

and i talk to my brother who is

1:19:38

the observer a real life any like new wave

1:19:40

will kill you is normally it's nine the

1:19:42

around i'd out and he said apparently i'm not

1:19:45

yet society i got a surfeit this all

1:19:47

i am golem eighty be give you voted on

1:19:49

with with

1:19:51

so we're going on that

1:19:54

that act a kind of a big acting job

1:19:56

i'm leaving for next week for a week

1:19:58

for this show

1:19:59

as an adaptation of a book called lady the

1:20:02

lake

1:20:02

should not in

1:20:04

in baltimore maryland for we

1:20:07

the acting opposite

1:20:09

some lady me natalie portman wow

1:20:13

yeah

1:20:14

black community own surfing who

1:20:16

because i feel like

1:20:18

the

1:20:19

try to get into it a little bit not been around a little

1:20:22

to the in surfing on nine a community

1:20:24

i've been the are you decided to the black

1:20:26

the and i went to something whereas

1:20:28

somebody was being disposal to a black iron

1:20:30

monkey it in the way by house right yes

1:20:33

i went

1:20:33

the are make about like fact that and then

1:20:36

he was there and i'm watching him

1:20:38

my

1:20:39

oh

1:20:40

he's like

1:20:42

the lord of this stuff and

1:20:44

you're breaking barriers that i didn't

1:20:46

know needed to be done at this fucking time

1:20:49

other other would process

1:20:50

the noted is

1:20:52

you out there that

1:20:54

gonna judge a guys skin color in the water

1:20:57

the i'm repeating the like a bally's kind

1:20:59

of shining light on that

1:21:01

it's opening eyes to a lot a clue

1:21:03

was people that may not have realized

1:21:06

they were being disrespectful by not

1:21:08

standing up in supporting your fellow

1:21:11

server regardless of their skin color

1:21:13

i think you're a big part of that men from what

1:21:15

i've seen i wasn't my desire

1:21:18

to i didn't didn't wake up

1:21:20

one dame think like arms and

1:21:22

i'm gonna be the the champion it but i just

1:21:24

couldn't stay quiet

1:21:25

you realize that i am just met dad

1:21:28

yeah you kind of doing out eat

1:21:30

his words work

1:21:31

in surfing

1:21:33

the am and after my dad died appreciate

1:21:36

that my dad died i was like wow how do you

1:21:38

even keep this torch alive of

1:21:40

of what he didn't is only be

1:21:42

found myself in the summer of twenty twenty one

1:21:44

thing that really spicy and

1:21:46

the

1:21:47

as far as a conversation race in america

1:21:50

obviously

1:21:52

thomas' game up and surfing and i was like people

1:21:54

saddam stories and i think i got

1:21:56

some stories to tell and

1:21:59

it's funny that of and that you came to

1:22:02

he did break engage so sweet

1:22:05

they've been searching for about a year and they were manhattan

1:22:08

beach he had incidents

1:22:10

in the waterway especially when you new

1:22:12

cut someone off whatever they may call the internet

1:22:15

addict if you don't know the etiquette whatever and

1:22:17

this guy

1:22:20

side panel up to him give him give him

1:22:22

shit and then call me anyway

1:22:24

nobody had ended up and in sense

1:22:26

everyone in the water

1:22:28

this kind of sat around and did nothing as

1:22:30

is guys like

1:22:31

no i alas know hours and

1:22:33

them

1:22:35

there was an incident a few weeks earlier

1:22:37

up at the top

1:22:39

of

1:22:40

the m l porto where these

1:22:42

two black girls that were just out in the water

1:22:45

organ shit nice guys were be a my why you

1:22:47

guys out the dropping bombs exaggerated

1:22:50

i mean i've had i've had more incidents and i can

1:22:52

even town added a situation too

1:22:56

though edit the

1:22:58

sparkle zeroes malibu worth saw

1:23:00

another black and parking whenever

1:23:02

that happened it's

1:23:04

the time and miracle

1:23:07

i'm a miracle mangum

1:23:09

grouping seaside and we were like

1:23:11

the only two black eyes in the water which for

1:23:13

us to see each other the water any time it happened

1:23:15

was like i don't know you

1:23:17

but i need to and you we have

1:23:20

the similar story i get it goes and yeah

1:23:22

i'm that's how i got my job at i got my job

1:23:24

uploader yeah the two

1:23:27

black eyes for hundred miles happening to be

1:23:29

in the water we started talking and

1:23:31

i had was going to sit a trans

1:23:33

will new like homage it'll get you

1:23:35

on the phones at at at planet earth but

1:23:37

anyway i see this guy in the parking lot of roll up to them and i

1:23:39

start talking to him where you from were like you

1:23:41

ever see me here he a another here

1:23:44

is like oh it's called so cool to see it and

1:23:46

the guy in and and the in the car overdose

1:23:49

why didn't you come up and say hi to me i'd

1:23:52

like to see a second spotted

1:23:54

and so he means to the heavens causes

1:23:57

using so yeah why didn't

1:23:59

you come up

1:24:00

why you go talk to him and not me

1:24:02

eating it's kind of races bro and

1:24:04

other wow now look

1:24:06

at each other what's happening

1:24:09

on happening saturday like it's too nice

1:24:11

a day for the shit

1:24:12

this dude starts going emmys and then then

1:24:14

he has the nerve to be like don't you think

1:24:16

you should be off doing some tic toc dance

1:24:18

videos like your people do it and

1:24:21

like going

1:24:22

what really the

1:24:24

horrible situation is was close but

1:24:26

by to still happily obama and card stomp

1:24:28

your as ah appointed why

1:24:31

did came up to him into a my

1:24:33

to check the him and fucking tom be

1:24:35

the and i never seen up for an outside world eggs

1:24:38

and my we might we might have a than i

1:24:40

am allies he didn't deserve this so those

1:24:42

did break engage they started this really call

1:24:44

cool thing called up empty beach club where

1:24:46

every every second sunday at

1:24:49

doc while beach

1:24:50

they take over the speech and they

1:24:52

got fucking

1:24:53

got it el camino on the beach dj

1:24:56

and pete folk show up there's this

1:24:58

group called color the water the giving soup

1:25:00

lesson said black and brown kids

1:25:03

and it's dislike it's a vibe it's like

1:25:05

the best beach party ever

1:25:07

and his idea of like

1:25:09

not having the change who you are

1:25:11

as a person of color to come to the beach for being able

1:25:13

to come the beach and like

1:25:15

show people how you can also do

1:25:17

it this way and it's an energy and

1:25:20

now it's the site very cool

1:25:22

very big thing this is this is group called textured

1:25:24

waves is incredible women that i've been working with

1:25:27

a , what textured wave saga and

1:25:29

their whole if you follow him on instagram

1:25:32

the whole story is like the perspective of

1:25:34

through the lens black women which i

1:25:36

had never even seen when i discovered demos

1:25:39

i i hill

1:25:42

and so yeah just getting

1:25:44

creating more access and people are like like to be like

1:25:47

will the ocean for everybody bros i

1:25:49

don't understand why you guys one bring

1:25:51

race into it genocides

1:25:54

so sorry that you think that your neighborhood

1:25:56

by the beach just happens to be all

1:25:58

only way because

1:25:59

you're the only people who was there

1:26:02

and i know that is it once you discover

1:26:05

that that's not the case and it's i did got

1:26:07

the got literally set up that way kind of fucks

1:26:09

with your and know and same it's your fault but also

1:26:11

like help create some room it

1:26:14

and let make people feel welcome

1:26:16

in a space that you're not used to seeing

1:26:18

them and i remember that

1:26:19

i have you're serving this

1:26:22

felt so fucking good to me like

1:26:24

the first time i sit up on away that

1:26:26

i couldn't hear all the shit yeah like the i

1:26:29

they'd throw mmmm people

1:26:31

you know the bow and up be alive what's your

1:26:33

blog as to nadia

1:26:35

the movie

1:26:36

i commend you on day designer

1:26:39

i mean i don't know i obviously don't know what that slide

1:26:41

by i can get close with the gaze

1:26:43

of linear you know what a thin in it and

1:26:45

i've sort of at one point when it was against

1:26:47

may i i went back to australia

1:26:50

and they want to go home i

1:26:52

just was like i don't want to live here if i'm

1:26:54

gonna be

1:26:55

signal to like than i

1:26:57

go there and you stayed with it

1:26:59

i was already process my fucking job and

1:27:01

i still was adage of i got me this

1:27:04

the attorney to live like this my thing was

1:27:06

just like it at the whole time

1:27:08

the joy of of of

1:27:11

the same

1:27:12

it

1:27:12

note that can't supersedes

1:27:14

it proceeds all of a passion their

1:27:16

the passion in the joy of look i'm in

1:27:18

fog was still here that

1:27:21

i do you think that with those those

1:27:23

incidents and those events that transpired

1:27:26

you were a catalyst in

1:27:29

terms of being a central figure the could articulate

1:27:31

their experience in a way

1:27:33

that people who people had listen

1:27:36

to the miami bottomless but also that they thought

1:27:38

that i was never was

1:27:40

always down but not really to

1:27:42

your actions were you are yeah and i think

1:27:44

that's the thing

1:27:45

people were always there were a lot of people

1:27:47

who were like but yeah we were friends

1:27:49

with you the whole time i ever you you

1:27:52

had no desire ability to acknowledge

1:27:54

that like the ship was different florida

1:27:57

them and it so now that you and your

1:27:59

now what that is that's what makes you uncomfortable

1:28:03

why

1:28:04

boehner i just think you you did such

1:28:06

great job of appreciate heading

1:28:08

out up and being a champion and vows

1:28:10

that was pops men like literally like

1:28:13

channel them

1:28:14

and com know that that is on the

1:28:16

have just just be me like this so

1:28:18

many voices now

1:28:20

and just get to use my

1:28:23

my platform shine a light on on the

1:28:25

worked at a bosley little from the outside

1:28:28

i'm impressed it is why you

1:28:30

don't is it is really good south to appreciate

1:28:33

it men lot when i saw you down the beach that

1:28:35

there are you know may did your

1:28:37

neighbor on

1:28:40

, to i remember somebody

1:28:42

said something when something had too much too drink much to stock

1:28:44

and last i remember it i

1:28:47

remember it well do you may not

1:28:49

know that it was in our crew nah nah

1:28:51

we were at a we were at a establishment

1:28:55

insane why somebody you think they told they

1:28:57

story somebody use louis van [unk] tire

1:28:59

terms before somebody use the bad but yeah

1:29:02

do you remember that remember that demo that

1:29:04

i had to stay in because it happened to be that

1:29:06

we

1:29:07

that lou lou there was like mayday

1:29:09

and it was we were in germany in there was

1:29:12

it was like a wing parade that was

1:29:14

happening once yeah and you

1:29:16

as thought id i've omitted they were like

1:29:18

we advise you to stay and until after

1:29:20

see the right wingers into a dilemma

1:29:22

in the mother of union organizers

1:29:25

know but i just you know idea guide i

1:29:27

should be aware of any it's it's

1:29:29

suez's it or it was it was super

1:29:31

random but yeah one hour ago

1:29:33

i was a weird

1:29:35

the year

1:29:36

come a long way we got along with will go

1:29:39

announce as human beings when it comes to

1:29:41

just to signaller during the

1:29:43

the the natural

1:29:46

of of what makes people people

1:29:48

manchin and the idea

1:29:50

that whether it's race or religion

1:29:53

or sexual especially like as were in the midst

1:29:55

of the site

1:29:56

crazy arms and be want to be like america

1:29:58

as a christian a souvenir

1:29:59

be to might actually

1:30:02

now it but you

1:30:04

decide to see like

1:30:06

how easy people can get caught up being

1:30:08

my goal my team's gonna win now it's no

1:30:11

one's gonna win we're all racing toward her same

1:30:13

fucking stop sign how do

1:30:15

you want to get there you want to get there spending

1:30:17

your time

1:30:19

putting people down for choosing

1:30:21

the be their whole because you wish you

1:30:23

could be the i think that's really will end up coming out

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little bit gain a bit black sounds

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less

1:30:29

banana bread records and put that

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on a particular us

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, we're going ended their their

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that have that

1:30:39

, thirty year old like a better

1:30:41

get on with your life exactly because

1:30:44

of us you black hamas the back

1:30:46

everybody else i'll bet that are

1:30:48

young adult about the bag the buses

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good term in our world year

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on the to do you out an idea going

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to be in the bag of us to the by a bus the out of

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crowd as well as to or as was the coolest

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place on earth yeah

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the thanks to us

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like bus or thanks rob me personally

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really appreciate it bobby ticket love

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you love all the way back then

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