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This is he said a y at the Hope

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with Eric Winter and Rosalind Fantaz.

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All Right, good morning, welcome to another episode

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of he said, Aya the Hope. Afternoon,

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whatever time you're wating to direct podcast or good evening.

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You never know when people are listening. Yeah, you're

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listening to podcasts, like all day long. I

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see you. It's like your new favorite thing.

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I love listening to podcasts.

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I'm going to talk about the fact that our

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listeners really wanted

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to get some questions answered. So

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our next couple of episodes are gonna be dedicated

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to the listeners, just answering your questions. We're

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gonna bear all.

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And can I tell you something. We got an overwhelming response

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from all over the world. We cannot

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believe how many different countries

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we got messages from. So I

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was what incredible. So thank

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you so much for listening. And you have no idea

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how much it means to us that, he said.

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Ajadjo is traveling overseas

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and people from everywhere are

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enjoying the show. We make them laugh and

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we make them think and it's awesome.

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So again, thank you from the bottom

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of our heart.

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Are they laughing at us or with US,

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probably probably at

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US a lot. Now. I guess the number

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one question people wanted to know was

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how we met. And I know we've talked about this, probably

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since one of our earliest podcasts, but

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I'll say it. We never agree on this. We met at a club

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and she hates that term, but we made

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at a venue. It was an event,

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a venue that functions as a club

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that that night. It was an event for

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I believe, like a pioneer speaker. I

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saw this beautiful girl the VIP area,

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dancing around and friends

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I don't know, but I saw you standing up there

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drinking something wasn't alcohol,

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I found out. I got my

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way into the VIP area and I hit on her

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just very nicely. I just asked if I could buy

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her drink and introduced myself, no line

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or anything, and she basically said I don't drink,

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you can get me a pineapple juice. And

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then she shut me down because she said, thank you for the

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pinapple juice. But I have a boyfriend, and

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so we never. They

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basically died right there. There was no there

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was no relationship, there was no opportunity. My

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friend was with me and she had

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a couple of friends with her and she

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went off to go shoot. Roslyn went off to go shoot a movie

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in Puerto Rico, and she was gone for almost

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three months. I think I enjoyed almost for

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it. I ended up just hanging out with her friend and

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my friend and we all became sort

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of mutual friends and going out and we were living

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the single life, hitting up the club and

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Roslyn came back in town and

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we all sort of reconnected as

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friends, like a group of us. And she

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was sort of going through her own journey

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and her own personal life, and I was a

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single guy, and I've never done this before, but we

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started as friends.

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That was never a He was so patient

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and so kind, but.

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I had resigned to the fact, to be honest, like I

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wasn't sitting there patient in

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hopes that I was going to close the deal, Like

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I wasn't going to be disrespectful to.

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The situation.

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Yeah, the situation. I was very mindful. You were in a relationship

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and I was fully single, like I was still

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living my life and dating and doing

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my thing, and we just

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all were became friends

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and that sort of built into something

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more. And here

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we are twenty years later, just living the

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dream.

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Twenty kids

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just about twenty almost nineteen.

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This year is going to be nineteen years together. This

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inane, this Thanksgiving era

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like October, I think is We always say

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it was the time we started dating. So this would

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be nineteen years together, sixteen years

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married. This year, wow, this fall.

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So that's the story.

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Effortless, seamless, and it's

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you know, it's just rainbows, butterflies and cotton

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candy and old is

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it? Uh

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wow? Five fifth

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it's lovely. It's lovely.

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We I think it is.

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We listen.

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It's like every relations special, every

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marriage. You know, it's a lot of work, especially

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when you when you add kids

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to the to the recipe. But it's

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been blissful and it's been pretty

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unbelievable. And you know what, it's a big accomplishment.

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Almost twenty years together. That that right

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there is a big accomplishment.

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Especially in our business. It's it's huge.

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But for any relationship, twenty years is an amazing

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chunk of time. And like she said, it takes work

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and effort, and we will put that time

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in. Second most asked question

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was Roz do you will you do another

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guest appearance on the Rookie A.

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I would love to, but I've never been invited to go

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back.

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Well, I guess if you're if, I guess they'd have to find a reason

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for your character to come back on the Rookie.

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But I would love Can they just give you a different character

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for.

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Roz to get a totally new character, as I caught

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my hair, I'll do a little Bob, I'll look very cute.

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If we do another Rookie spin off, would

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you be in? Yeah,

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if available, of course, if she's a available

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and it's the right role, and that'd listen.

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The Rookie phenomenon is pretty

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it's pretty big. It's a wonderful family.

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So it'll be my my, my honor.

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Of course, we'd be lucky to have you. I hope she

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comes back. That would be really cool.

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You another question,

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let me read, does Ross

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ship Chanford look

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at Eric's face.

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Looking down?

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You do?

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I'm looking at the question the listener questions.

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You Chord listen. This

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is an interesting question, a good question. Actually,

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it depends on what day you

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ask me. Yeah, there

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are some days that I love

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Chanford. There are other days that

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I you know that it's hard.

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Well, I think the truth is you

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fully support the show

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and the characters I think what's hard is

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that there have been many

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times where fans blur the lines

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of what is television and what is

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real life. And I think what

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people don't all see or know is

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that often Roslin gets tagged

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on random posts about

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the relationship on the show, and for any

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partner that can be a very uncomfortable thing to

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sort of have to see all the time

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in the context in which it's

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created online. And

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so I think Roz has been an incredible supporter

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of the show and of our characters

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one percent. But I think and

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I'm not a supporter of this either. We both aren't

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supporters of fans blurring

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the lines between reality and television.

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Listen, there are three things to be completely

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transparent. Okay, since you're asking,

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I'm going to answer. There are three

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things. Number One, thank God

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that I am a very very secure

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human being, because I think any of the girl

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would have lost her bananas based

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on the constant I'm

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constantly bombarded with tags,

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and you know, like it's every single

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day, and I'm heavy and the social media,

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I don't know if it's on Twitter, and I

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don't go to just following and it just goes

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to everybody. It

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says for you. I see everything,

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and I read everything, and my name is always included, which

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is always It's a tricky, but thank God

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that I've been the I have the blessing that I'm very

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secure, so very little things bother me.

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Number two and this is the truth.

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Thank God that I happen to like

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Melissa a lot. I think she is a

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wonderful girl. I think she is nothing

7:34

but sweet and kind and loving and

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loves on me all the time, you know. So

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I have somebody that energetically

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has never given me a reason to be like, eh,

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I don't know if I like this. You know, she's always

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been incredibly nice,

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So that makes things easier. If I would have felt,

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oh, I don't trust this girl, this cheek is a little

7:53

old, you know, like something like that, then it would have been

7:55

severely uncomfortable to know that for seven

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years, my husband is on a storyline with

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a storyline that is highly effective,

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and that I don't like the girl.

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And by the way, that that's across the board. Just people

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know in our business that's very common.

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Like if somebody percent

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of the time, it's very uncomfortable

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because you just don't trust or you or

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you don't really care for the other person, but they

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make it tricky for you.

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And we've had it both ways, Like I've had it where

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I'm not super comfortable with.

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I had I had an incident with a specific show and

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this is a person that you are that

8:30

that was your friend and you were incredibly

8:32

uncomfortable and I have to reassure you for a

8:35

long time, don't worry about it. And he

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didn't want to have it at all. It was really bad,

8:40

and I didn't want to do that to Eric

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because he knows how much I know how much he

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loves the rookie I know how much he loves his

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rookie family. And kudos

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to them to creating

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a storyline that has been so incredibly

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effective worldwide. You know, it's like

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really impressive. So as an actress

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to a fellow actress an actor, I

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just go, Wow, that's amazing, because that's

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very difficult to do. So because of that, I'm

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because she's super cool, because I'm very secure and

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number three, to be honest, ninety

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nine percent of the

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comments from

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the fandom of Chanford

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are very supportive towards

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me, you know, like I receive a lot of

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love from the majority of

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you, guys, and it.

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Well, a lot of the Jenfer fans have totally fallen

9:30

in love with you and support you and all your ventures

9:32

and things that you're doing. Some of them have rescued

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dogs from us, which is exactly

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right.

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So I feel like, even though I'm not part of the show,

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I feel very much a part of the show because the

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embrace has been unbelievable

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and you guys make it

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much easier for me to love

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Chanford as well.

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Thank you everybody. Yes, I think all right? Next question?

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Is Eric a bad driver? Come

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on, at I'm going to say that. The first question

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was at Elina

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and you say the word. Second one is

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at Zeba at simb

10:07

just giving the tag? Now is Eric

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a bad driver? I'm a great driver.

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He's a terrible driver.

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Great driver, Eric, I'm

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so good, guys. I know's

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car and we talked about that and.

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My car also gone and

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I'm a great driver, guys. Is not what may

10:24

you go into acting? Hashtag?

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Leon?

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Me?

10:28

I don't even know.

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I think.

10:29

I'm sorry,

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at Leon, what made you go into acting

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to me?

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Guys? I've Roslin was pushed out the womb

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saying here showtime

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that I'm

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person in Centsus and I'm minded act for

10:46

sure. Was the like mom

10:53

performer, that was performer right out

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the womb. That was her still

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to this day.

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And wow, I'm actually much.

11:03

She's toned down mellow right now. I

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was total opposite. I was an

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athlete my whole life, pre med student at

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U c l A. I

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got wrapped up in this in a very weird way. It took a drama

11:15

class in college, started dating a girl that

11:17

was like, you need to model, and got me introduced

11:19

to some agent and it just kind of snowball from

11:21

there. I enjoyed it and just

11:23

decided to dig in and start studying. I have totally

11:25

different path than Roslynd.

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Okay at Jimma, what

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cologne is Eric's favorite?

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I think it's the.

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One that is called Molecule.

11:33

Yep, that's what I use every day pretty much.

11:35

Molecule is really good at Gods.

11:38

Does Ross have a favorite moment on

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The Rookie?

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She doesn't watch the show.

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I don't watch the show, but my favorite moment is My

11:45

favorite moment is Vi Castillo when

11:48

she showed up to stir things up

11:50

my episode. I thought it was very cute, was it?

11:52

It was good?

11:53

It was good othough Eric showed

11:55

me this. He was so mad at.

11:57

Migul's I don't even

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act like you care about that. That was a joke. We

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never she never watches the show.

12:03

Eric, that he was

12:05

very proud of and you didn't care.

12:07

And he was a favorite moment because you didn't care.

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Oh my god, I care. It was I was very

12:12

impressed by him. I just thought it was

12:14

very unbelievable.

12:15

Was the joke they went down, guys, when

12:18

a hammer, everybody knows the Hammer

12:20

giant. That was the joke of the whole thing.

12:23

But Bradford's a badass, so it made what happened.

12:26

His name is the hammer, the guy

12:28

that you you were fighting.

12:29

He's a giant dude.

12:30

That was like the whole And I learned that he's actually a real

12:32

stunt man.

12:33

Yeah, he's a real stunt man. He's uh. He

12:35

was fantastic in the role. Yeah, in real

12:38

life he'd kill me, But that was the joke behind it

12:40

all. He'd

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kill Eric. Bradford's

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a badass. Eric maybe

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at times don't so

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anyways, what else, at

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least any tips for going on vacation with

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young kids, great

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one, bring some help depends what kind of vacation

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you're going on. I like to say, when you go on

13:01

vacation with kids, it's actually just called a trip.

13:03

It's not really vacation. You have vacation,

13:06

it's going somewhere. That's it. I wouldn't say

13:08

it's relaxing. I mean, if you can bring

13:11

any help then if you want to have like a parent

13:13

getaway, or if they have a good kids club, I guess.

13:15

But we, you know, we've just found ways to

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just kind of embrace those big vacations, make

13:20

it about the kids, make them have the best

13:22

time possible. We've obviously

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had plenty of vacations before kids, so we embrace

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it. We're in a discussion about one now because I

13:29

want to go. We want to go back to a place that we

13:31

absolutely love, the kids love. Rosin

13:34

wants to change it up to you,

13:36

it's about the kids.

13:37

I want to try something new.

13:38

They both just so you know, are like, can we go back please?

13:40

I love that place? Oh my god, that was my favorite. Okay,

13:43

we'll probably have to go back.

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Look at this Atkira from Austria,

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are you say Austria is your rum

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going to be available in your road.

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Not out the gate? Everybody our rum

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up. I will keep you very updated,

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not internationally, but our rum

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when we launch, and it will

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be all on our handles. Remember

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it's at Palm Republic Rum

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either on Instagram, Twitter or x I should

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say TikTok and Facebook.

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We'll keep updating everybody. When we launch,

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looking somewhere around May

14:14

mid May. Pre orders will start

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probably end of April. We will be sold

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direct to consumer off our website in forty

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three states, and we will be in market

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like on premise. Off premise they call it at

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select hotels and liquor stores and bars

14:28

in Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina

14:31

and some select spots in California. Just

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out the gate.

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Out the gate.

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That's when we start.

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Very cool.

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Okay, Europe, We're coming for you.

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Oh my god. Kaylin Willis ask

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when it comes to messing around with the kids,

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who ends up being the party pooper?

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Well, that's Roz, one hundred percent messing

14:49

over the kid. I'm one always mess out of the kid. No,

14:52

just just this morning, I came in the

14:54

bedroom with us. He wanted to sleep with us,

14:56

so he did for the morning, and then we woke

14:59

up and had a massive pillow fight, and the one that was the

15:01

party pooper was because

15:03

it hurt.

15:03

He threw him on top of me.

15:05

Guy, I know he threw himself.

15:06

Yeah, it was seven in the morning. I just wanted to sleep

15:08

a little more because we don't get to sleep in and

15:11

they decided to get into a full wrestling

15:13

pillow fight at that time, when

15:15

I was like, is this necessary?

15:17

I don't know what it is. They love to wrestle.

15:19

They want to fight me all the time. It's really rough.

15:21

It always worries on her, who's obsessed because

15:24

you think she's a boy. Eric has this thing that

15:26

Sabella is like his little boy

15:29

is like, Sabella is so rough, and

15:31

you taught her to be this rough.

15:33

I mean since she was little. It's true, Like I didn't we didn't

15:35

know we were having a second kid, and I didn't know I was

15:37

going to have a boy. And Sabella is a girl

15:39

that can do very girly things

15:42

and also can be a tomboy, which I love. She can

15:44

mix it up and she loves to fight, she

15:46

loves sports.

15:46

She loves stand it.

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There we go answer your question.

15:51

Party pooper okay.

15:54

From Serbia Sandra

15:57

at sandram I hope we're saying that right.

15:59

Advice forgetting kids into sports,

16:02

Oh, we're probably the last people you want to talk to about

16:04

that. We are a sports mess

16:06

in our household. Our

16:08

advice would be if I could go back

16:10

a little bit and set myself

16:13

up patients support

16:16

just pure love. Introduce

16:18

them to as many sports as possible. Try

16:21

to, you know, if one sticks great,

16:24

lift them up, especially early on. Let them

16:26

keep trying it and proving again.

16:29

If they switch and say I want to try something else, go back to

16:31

something else. Let them be versatile

16:33

athletes, trying everything, and

16:35

don't put too much pressure or expect too much.

16:37

We've made so many mistakes, especially when it

16:39

comes to tennis. I think with Dylan we're doing much better.

16:42

He plays soccer. We introduced him to basketball,

16:45

we introduced him to you know, bits and pieces

16:47

of baseball, and he loves soccer,

16:50

so he's not obsessed with it. So we're patient.

16:53

But with Sabby, I think we got a little

16:55

bit pushy early on. We're backing off now

16:57

we're much better.

16:58

Yeah, at s any

17:00

advice for single people, Should I be outdating

17:02

or at home working on myself and the right person

17:05

will come along.

17:07

You're gonna get two answers roight here, Oh you said a little

17:09

bit of both both.

17:10

I think it's good for you to stay home

17:12

and work on yourself because I think you have to make

17:14

yourself happy first before you can offer anything

17:16

to anybody else. Be in love with you,

17:19

respect you, before you

17:21

pretend that the universe is going to just give

17:24

you the right person. But you

17:26

have to actually go out a little bit, because what

17:28

it's it's not worth doing all the work if

17:31

nobody gets to meet you.

17:32

Yeah, I mean you're I think you're and you can implement it. I

17:34

think you're spot on with that for sure. And

17:37

what you're saying, I'm surprised we fully agree on this. But I

17:40

listen, I'm all about the numbers game. I would just get

17:42

out there.

17:42

It's disgusting. What do you mean the numbers

17:44

game?

17:45

Roll the dicency? How many people you can

17:47

meet?

17:48

Are you joking?

17:48

See how many people you can meet? I mean in a good way,

17:51

Like, just be out there, mix it up, meet

17:53

me.

17:53

I wonder if you're gonna be like Maurici Umanski.

17:56

That's what I have to do. What

17:58

one daddy with the stars and run very successful

18:00

real.

18:01

After twenty seven years

18:03

an incredible marriage and four

18:06

beautiful girls, and

18:08

now they decide that he wants to

18:10

continue his way, going to going

18:13

to.

18:13

Go date women that want to explore

18:16

a bit more fluid.

18:17

Is that going to happen to you?

18:19

That happen to you?

18:19

I don't think this is where she wanted at all.

18:21

I think.

18:23

I think his ways. She got tired. She want

18:26

to be home. She wanted to just bember

18:30

Well. The void, the lack of attention

18:32

from the husband made her see.

18:34

You turning on me and going for a woman?

18:36

Are you joking?

18:46

Caroline Rogers from

18:48

Dublin, Wow, what made you start

18:50

the podcast? I jumped down

18:52

to the next one

18:55

from Dublin, Okay, to Dublin. What may I

18:57

start the podcast? You know, we

19:00

we had been approached funny Enough by a

19:02

network here to possibly do some sort of

19:04

a scripted show based

19:06

on our lives in a way that was scripted

19:09

not about Eric and Roslind,

19:11

but inspired by our journey and who

19:13

we are, cultural differences and very

19:16

different people in general. And we

19:18

were in the process of developing that sitcom and

19:20

then I got the rookie funny Enough and she got Grand Hotel

19:22

and everything kind of that went away. For now,

19:25

and it rolled into a

19:27

relationship with one of the producers we had with iHeart

19:29

and we talked about doing it as a podcast.

19:31

Yep, and it's been a lot of fun. Okay

19:34

at Lily May Todd,

19:37

mat Todd. I don't know, how do you choose your kids'

19:39

names? And if you could go anywhere in the world for

19:41

free, where would it be? Okay, Sabella.

19:43

We went to a vineyard in Napa, California,

19:46

and there was a bottle that called Sabella and

19:48

it was a combination between Sebastian and Isabella.

19:50

The owner of the vineyard combined

19:52

both names Isabella Sebastian

19:55

into Sabella. We loved it, and we said

19:57

if we ever have a daughter, one day it

19:59

was is in between Emilie or Sabella.

20:02

But when I delivered, when we see her, we're gonna

20:04

know.

20:04

What the name is going to be. Any thing

20:07

about meanings of names. And I remember

20:09

being at work and I

20:11

texted you and I said, just so you know, I

20:13

researched both names and Amelia

20:15

meant hard worker and Sabella

20:18

meant God's Promise. And I was

20:20

like, come on, I mean, either she's a hard

20:22

worker or she's God's promise God, God's

20:24

promise. Yes, son against Amelia, by the

20:26

way, but that was just between the two.

20:28

And then Dylan was I was

20:30

in the under the influence of Narco the pain

20:32

killers when I just delivered him. So I was

20:35

in my at the hospital and I.

20:36

Didn't know Dylan had name for

20:39

at least And then I went to a.

20:41

Book when they were doing his circumcision, he

20:43

was Eric was waiting for him, and then he was

20:45

reading a book of names that they provided the hospital.

20:48

And then he called me saying, listen, listen,

20:50

what about Dylan because it remans this and this and

20:52

that. I was a little groggy.

20:53

I was dizzy.

20:54

I don't know what I was thinking.

20:55

Was always. I gave her a whole pitch about

20:58

Dylan's the god of the ocean

21:00

and water or something like that. I forgot the whole thing. I was like, you're

21:02

from Puerto Rico, I grew up in La I had a whole pitch

21:04

together. She still wasn't buying it. She said

21:06

if Gabrielle was the middle name, she'd

21:09

consider it. And then I said, we said, the only way

21:11

we would decide is rock paper scissors, And it

21:13

was best two out of three and.

21:14

I don't remember that.

21:15

Yeah, we rock paper scissors for Dylan.

21:17

Do you see that's how drug I was rock

21:19

papers. That's how you got it, and that's how you won. OK, but

21:22

I love it now. It's a beautiful name.

21:25

Let's see. We probably have time for one more.

21:28

Have either of you ever suffered from mental

21:31

health? That's a good question.

21:33

I do know what one second and the free

21:35

place I would like to go to Dubai. Oh,

21:38

yes, Dubai.

21:40

I've ben at Dubai briefly, but I would love to.

21:41

Give you a perforate vacation, change my mind. Japan.

21:44

I did the USO tour I wanted to buy briefly.

21:46

I lived on the base and I didn't get to really sight see

21:48

in Japan. Well, also Japan. Those

21:51

are two and so far in Africa, so many?

21:53

All right, Do either of us ever suffer from mental health?

21:56

I would say that's

21:58

a great question. Heavy. I would say, not diagnosed

22:00

in any way, but we both, uh,

22:03

you know, have moments that we deal with, whether it's a

22:06

version of depression or a version of stress.

22:09

And Roselin definitely definitely suffers from a bit of anxiety

22:12

at times. What you do you get in clutrophobia

22:15

and anxiety and

22:17

situations on airplanes and stuff like that.

22:19

Is that a mental health issue?

22:21

Yeah, oh yeah, you

22:23

deal with some things for sure. We've been open

22:25

about that.

22:25

Yeah.

22:27

Yeah, that hope that answers your question. Let's

22:29

do one more. I'm married for thirty one years.

22:31

This is at Mike Rizzy. I have married thirty

22:34

one years, and I was wondering how you keep

22:36

your the spark in your marriage? Mike.

22:38

It's a great question. How

22:40

do we keep this the

22:43

spark in our marriage?

22:45

You answer?

22:46

I think it just again takes work, creativity,

22:51

fun, attention to detail, taking

22:54

the extra time with each other, you

22:57

know, being there for each other things

23:00

are difficult, and also you know with intimacy,

23:03

and I think it's just being present

23:05

as much as possible. It takes work

23:07

for sure. After you've been married for especially

23:09

you thirty one years, that's much longer than us.

23:12

So you know, it's about

23:14

continuing to raise the bar and

23:17

evolve with your creativity. I think, yes,

23:19

that's my best advice.

23:20

Beautiful, Well that's one last one, last one. Look

23:23

at this one at Tim Bradford Defender.

23:27

Is it hard to decide on what to share because

23:29

the media can pick it up and run away with it. Yes,

23:33

Eric is much more mindful as you

23:35

can tell. And if you've

23:37

been listening to the podcast since

23:39

a very very beginning two years ago, I

23:41

am more open and comfortable. I'll just say

23:43

whatever comes out of my mouth. I don't I

23:46

don't really have too much of a filter, which is Eric

23:48

is very mindful about everything, and he's always thinking

23:50

about Budda. But so one's always listening. And

23:52

what about if they take it wrong and don't

23:54

don't say that raw? So oh yeah, Eric

23:56

is always filtering. What should

23:59

we say is accurate? I

24:01

wish it would just be more carefree and more open.

24:04

Don't don't say something wrong.

24:06

We're about to wrap it up, all

24:08

right, Well, answer more questions on the next episode. Until

24:10

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