Sometimes journalists - and even the US Food & Drug Administration - will say that they can't find health care experts without financial conflicts of interest involving the health care industry. Well, for 9 years, we've hosted what we think is a one-of-a-kind list of industry-independent experts, and now a newly revised list is available. Listen to the list originators, Shannon Brownlee and Jeanne Lenzer, talk about the history and the need for such a list. Read more about them at https://www.healthnewsreview.org/2017/07/podcast-32-newly-revised-list-of-industry-independent-experts-for-journalists/. This podcast was published on July 17, 2017.