Heart Made brings you deep-dive conversations about building successful legacy brands and hitting that sweet spot between craft and glory.

In this episode, we tip our hat to the craft of traditional millinery that made Stetson a well-known brand on the prairies, in Hollywood, in the White House and around the world. I have the pleasure to talk to Klaus Kirschner, the CEO of FWS Hats headquartered in Cologne, Germany, a manufacturing and licensing partner of Stetson. We look back to famous models for cowboys, presidents and Hollywood stars, and shine a light on the brands' astonishing staying power. Hold on to your hat and join us!

Listen to more interviews with founders, entrepreneurs, artisans and tastemakers on finding ikigai, the Japanese concept teaching us to combine four integral parts of any business: what you do best, what you enjoy doing, what the world needs and what you can get paid for.

Heart Made is the first podcast of Craft & Glory, a magazine celebrating extraordinary companies, brands and people who believe in the art of making things better. More at craftandglory.com/heartmade/