This episode the boys catch up with Dj, Promoter and all round Donn Diva Rowan Swale aka L-Ro

Savvy's been gardening, Lord Soggy, Savvy's metaphor for US & UK systematic racism, The British Empire, Colonialism, Boris Johnson type or racism,  What is a Pickaninny? The difference between black culture in the UK & US, How Empires are built,  L-Ro's event called "In The Red" pivots to Zoom with "In The Bed", Where Rowan is hiding during Covid, First World Problems, Perspective on London, The Power of walking,  Community & Connection, The individual pursuit, The "Costs" of working in London,  The difficulties of working Up Norf, The rise of northern artists like Aitch, Creative perspective of being born in or out of London, Doing the leg work, Validation, Stay Humble, How Rowan selects for her Dj sets,  The Peanut Gallery & The Pecan Gallery,  Art & Business shouldn't be too connected, Wearing more than one hat, Savvy finds social media chore, Whats the future social media? The money thats made by social media stars, Inspired not Influenced, Being in the Zone, 0161,  Spirituality & Religion,  The Universal Light Within Us All, Transcendence, Rowans background background & upbringing, Finding balance, Karen's, Rowan's new cool friends & cool new projects...