This is the second and final part of last week’s episode. So if you’ve not yet heard the episode “Justine,” go back and listen to that first.

CreditsHeavyweight is hosted and produced by Jonathan Goldstein.This episode was produced by senior producer Kalila Holt, along with Stevie Lane and Mohini Madgavkar.Special thanks to Emily Condon, Jorge Just, Alex Blumberg, Sharon Mashihi, Connie Walker, Isabelle Larreur, and Jackie Cohen.News footage courtesy of Gray Media Group, Inc. and WAVE 3 News.The show was mixed by Bobby Lord. Music by Christine Fellows, John K Samson, Blue Dot Sessions, Katie Mullins, and Bobby Lord. The song Stephen listens to in the episode is “The Other Side of Mt. Heart Attack” by Liars. Our theme song is by The Weakerthans courtesy of Epitaph Records.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices