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No one can't. is. This is this is the

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2:25

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2:29

Lot of people who have

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2:38

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2:41

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2:47

great privilege, Eddie. This is one of the ones we walked

2:49

out of there going like. That

2:52

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2:55

He's he's just terrific to him. Just a

2:57

good man. Let's not waste any more your time. Let's get into

2:59

it. one and only Ray Roberts

3:01

Warren, baby. What are you calling

3:03

yourself, Tommy? No. Just Tom. Tom. Yeah.

3:05

Yeah. Tomba. Tomba. That's

3:07

not it. Should you get married? I did.

3:10

I did. Got two babies as

3:12

well. Two girls? Oh, really? Yep.

3:15

That's why we gotta take mate

3:17

not long at all.

3:18

Really? It may well, found

3:21

out I was pregnant before we got engaged, but

3:23

that was it was all in the works. Thank God, and

3:25

mom and mom knew that I was yeah. intended.

3:28

I'd ask him mom for permission and then we found

3:30

you a lucky pregnancy. I was very lucky. You know, my

3:32

teeth sort of stuff. Yeah. It's happened it's

3:34

happened before, Tom. That

3:37

will happen again. It will happen again. Can you

3:39

hear yourself in there at? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

3:41

the volume's all good? Yeah. It's enough.

3:43

Yeah. It's enough. You know? work there, but this

3:45

is okay. He can put it up a bit more if you want.

3:47

Yeah. Fine. Yeah. Yeah.

3:50

I'm paying the penalty these days because

3:52

I've gone quite different to

3:54

write it. Oh, really? Mhmm. How

3:57

how long into the career

3:59

did that happen? What

4:01

the deafness -- Yeah. -- are I deserve

4:04

to be going deaf. I I

4:06

deserve to be going deaf about twenty

4:09

five, thirty five years ago. Right.

4:12

because I've always worked very loud. Only

4:15

because it helped me get my modulation, and

4:18

not tempo. I mean, but if you

4:20

put a pair of headphones on and they're

4:22

like jackhammer headphones

4:25

where you can't hear anything. Yeah. then

4:28

you go hoarse in the throat

4:31

and it gets very painful. So

4:33

the louder in the ears, the better

4:35

I I performed, I think.

4:37

So you're going louder because you don't realize

4:39

how loud you are? Probably.

4:42

Yeah. It it's a bit like any

4:44

entertainer though, the fold back at the

4:46

front of the stage. I mean, you'll

4:48

you'll notice they'll be doing

4:50

this sort of thing turning

4:52

their volume up because as they they

4:54

too want to hear themselves coming back.

4:56

I played in a band once, Rob, so I do understand.

4:58

But do you? Yeah. Well, not anymore. It was a drummer.

5:00

Yeah. I was a drummer of So I had very

5:02

little to do see we default back the Alexa. So

5:05

the band is now defunct? The

5:07

band's defunct, unfortunately. Okay.

5:09

It's it's it's going the way of

5:11

the cassette. Yeah. That's right.

5:13

How are you enjoying the retirement? Yeah.

5:16

Not very much. No. No. I'm

5:19

I I knew it was coming though, you know. I

5:21

mean, you have to realize that there

5:23

are some things that are inevitable. And

5:26

I'm in my 80th year on

5:28

the planet. and I had

5:30

to retire sooner or later

5:32

even though I my

5:35

my biggest fear I hadn't reached that

5:37

I don't think. And that was I

5:39

didn't want to undo whatever

5:42

good I've done -- Mhmm. --

5:44

both for the game and myself and my

5:46

family. you know, I I didn't

5:48

want to undo the good by

5:50

going one step too far. And

5:53

I knew that moment couldn't be too

5:55

far down the avenue, but

5:58

I hadn't quite reached it. So I thought,

6:00

I'll pull the pin now.

6:03

This was mid season, mid off season,

6:05

I should say. after

6:07

the twenty one grand final

6:09

between South and Penrose. I was comfortable

6:11

with that, and I thought that'll do. I'll

6:13

I'll give it a miss. But I

6:15

wasn't going to announce it until I'd

6:17

sat down and watched for about

6:20

six weeks, the first six

6:22

rounds of this year.

6:24

and I was able to get through that.

6:27

Why was that? Why was you waiting for first six rounds?

6:29

I just wanted to see whether or not I

6:31

could be a viewer and not a

6:33

broadcaster. Oh, okay. Yeah.

6:35

Did you have a strong feeling in the twenty

6:37

one grand final that would be your last?

6:39

No, I didn't, but I've got to

6:41

tell you add that we

6:44

were broadcasting a lot from the studio,

6:46

and I'd never done that before.

6:49

all of the younger commentators, it

6:51

was basically second

6:53

nature. They've been born in bread

6:55

on it. but I had

6:57

never done it because I always want to be

6:59

at the game and able to hear

7:01

the crowd and get

7:04

my own light and shade from

7:07

what the crowd are telling me. This

7:09

is exciting. This is not

7:11

up down. So here

7:13

I am in a studio and all

7:15

that's there are a few camera men and

7:18

a few commentators and we're watching

7:20

it on a screen. And

7:22

it was pretty pretty

7:24

nerve wracking for somebody my age

7:26

who hadn't done it before. But

7:28

I'd got through three origins and then

7:30

I tackled the grand final. And

7:33

I came away this

7:35

is all after the event I came away

7:37

feeling comfortable and happy. Mhmm.

7:40

And I'd also conquered

7:42

one of my great fears having

7:44

to work off the tube.

7:47

So then in the following

7:50

few months, I thought I've

7:52

really had a happy year,

7:54

a comfortable year. I think I

7:56

might call it quits. But then I

7:58

wanted to watch for six weeks if if

8:00

it was six weeks. What

8:02

I would like to be a viewer, another another

8:05

not a commentator. Is there a sense of

8:07

nostalgia for you, like, calling

8:09

it off the TV instead of being at the

8:11

ground almost as if that's the

8:13

way commentary's gone now and that,

8:15

you know, the old school wave of commentary

8:17

commodating with the binoculars and

8:19

the window open and the crowd is sort of

8:21

a thing in the past. where'd you learn

8:23

that from? We were

8:26

talking to Ray Hadley. Yeah.

8:28

Well, Walt, he

8:31

knows exactly what what I'm talking

8:33

about. That was

8:35

the normal. I

8:38

started out sitting on the sideline at

8:40

a card table. with a

8:42

deck chair. And Frank hired

8:44

to be on the right and Tiger Black on

8:46

the left with John O'Reilly

8:48

and Cole Pearson. you

8:52

needed binoculars to actually

8:54

broadcast your down on ground

8:56

level where elevation

8:59

is absolutely beautiful

9:01

in in commentary no

9:03

matter what the sport, whatever the event,

9:06

but I I

9:08

understand where you're coming from.

9:11

Suddenly telecasters,

9:14

they they knew they could save a lot of

9:16

money. no airfares,

9:18

no accommodation. We'll get

9:20

them to cool it off the tube. You know,

9:22

Olympic Games a

9:24

lot of that comes out of, say, Melbourne

9:27

or Brisbane or Sydney, with a

9:29

commentator sitting in a booth

9:31

somewhere thirteen thousand miles

9:33

away from the Olympic Games.

9:35

It's been going on for a

9:37

while, but this poor old boat

9:39

I'd never had to do it. And

9:42

it was probably the final

9:44

hurdle that I was happy to jump.

9:47

Yeah. That's that's the best way to put it. I thought you

9:49

would have enjoyed not having to

9:51

fly. Well, yeah. Actually,

9:53

you know, I could I could have gone to a

9:55

hundred. How do

9:57

I have known that

9:59

it wasn't that it wasn't

10:01

that bloody I

10:03

mean, you know me pretty well, Tommy. You

10:05

know, I I get I get quite nervey,

10:07

and I apologize for

10:09

that. But Had I've known it was

10:11

that simple and

10:14

convenient and comfortable for

10:16

me because I hate flying.

10:18

I think quarters hates me because I

10:21

keep saying. But,

10:23

yeah, I could have gone, I think, till

10:25

I was a hundred and But inevitably,

10:28

one of two things would have happened. One I would

10:30

have dropped dead or

10:32

two, I would have undone

10:35

whatever good I might have done. And

10:37

so that fear you speak of, is that sort

10:40

of just not being able to

10:42

reach the heights that you'd once

10:44

reached or that you'd sort of mispronounced

10:47

names or get the call wrong. Was that the general

10:49

fear that you had? Yeah.

10:51

You know, I I I'm not gonna mention

10:54

names, but I worked on if we can

10:56

work out a couple I don't

10:59

think you can because they're they're quite

11:01

quite agid people.

11:03

Oh, okay. But a couple

11:05

I worked alongside, they that

11:07

we're getting names wrong.

11:09

Talking about keep in mind, I'm talking horse

11:11

racing and Okay. Sorry. I think it's

11:13

all players' names. So he he younger man,

11:15

like, oh, come to that, but I'm talking

11:17

about all the sports that I've covered

11:19

and horse racing was one of

11:22

them, swimming was another.

11:24

And at the end of the day, III

11:29

just was

11:31

worried about Yeah.

11:33

Calling calling

11:35

Ed Tom and

11:37

Tom Ed -- Mhmm. -- and

11:39

not knowing. It's all very well to make

11:41

a mistake. Let let me tell you something.

11:43

You're you're in for a career,

11:45

both of you, obviously. Well,

11:47

I hope so. Yeah. Then said a lot.

11:50

To make a mistake, to

11:52

make a mistake and not knowing

11:54

you made the mistake, that's

11:56

the problem. To make a mistake

11:58

and be able to apologize,

11:59

that's

12:00

not a problem.

12:02

So that was that was my fear

12:04

going to work and perhaps

12:06

calling Peter Sterling Paul Taylor

12:08

for the entire match --

12:10

Yeah. -- or like Sternloe did one day.

12:12

He he thought, Rod Wishard playing

12:14

Fila Wora was Rod

12:16

Stewart. And I and

12:19

I and I had to

12:21

I had to jump all over him. I

12:23

said, yeah. and that's Maggie Mays

12:25

sitting at the front of the broadcast box,

12:27

you know. But

12:29

he knew he knew when I told him

12:31

that he'd made a mistake and Oh my god.

12:33

Talk about talk about Peter perfect.

12:36

He he really bashed

12:38

himself up over that. I I

12:40

love to remind him, you know. I

12:42

said, Wishart, he scores a

12:44

beautiful try down in that Northeastern

12:47

corner and Sterling does the

12:49

first replay, you know. And he said, Well, I said

12:51

that's incredible by Rod Stewart.

12:57

Yeah. you got any of those? Any howls

12:59

that you've had over the years? Or you've been like, oh, my

13:01

god. Oh, well, I can be I won't

13:03

go into it too deeply. I remember a

13:05

blood called hunt. Car

13:08

Michael. Car Michael didn't help

13:10

my career. Yeah.

13:13

Car Michael got a few days. for

13:15

his career. I think you've all do you have

13:17

a we were talking about

13:19

this before, like, do you have a moment that

13:21

you think you, like, you nailed the best?

13:23

The moment where it called for you to absolutely

13:25

deliver from a commentary perspective that

13:27

you just came away going, like, yes.

13:29

Nailed it. Well, I hope

13:31

III wouldn't do that.

13:33

I'd I'd Well, yeah, I'd

13:35

like to think I've got

13:37

a bit of humility about myself, you

13:39

know. I know a

13:41

couple of people that are like that.

13:43

But I

13:47

guess I've got to go back to that

13:49

my coin trial the miracle try.

13:51

I I was just lucky. I

13:54

here I am. It's a minute ago, I

13:56

think, in a in a in a in an origin

13:58

match, and the ball sweeps

14:00

across the park and then sweeps back and

14:02

it's gone through eleven sets of hands

14:04

and you get you get them

14:06

all right you know, you've got

14:08

them alright. I haven't mispronounced one.

14:11

I've called a whole lot of them.

14:13

And then There we are.

14:15

Mhmm. And it's a miracle.

14:18

So obviously, yeah, I I agree. You're not the

14:20

type to, you know, to, you know, you

14:22

know, should fake pistols out of your hands and you do something

14:24

good, but there must be a level of, like, satisfaction

14:26

when you come away from a moment like

14:28

that. No. Yeah. No. You're huge. You

14:30

you I know,

14:32

yeah, you feel good inside, but

14:35

you're done. You're done sort of well

14:37

on it. No. You're done standing in the back

14:39

of the utility and you

14:41

know, and go, hey. Yeah. Yeah.

14:43

Yeah. With how much work would

14:45

you put into, I think, sort

14:47

of, setting the foundations to make a

14:49

call like that? do you think? Like,

14:51

is it sort of how much

14:53

would you work on honing your craft away

14:56

from TV or broadcasting?

14:58

Not very

15:01

much. Not very much really. I

15:03

I'd done most of my impersonating

15:05

and pretending and

15:08

practicing from the

15:10

age of seven or eight until I

15:12

actually got asked, can

15:14

you broadcast football? We need a football

15:16

commentator and I said,

15:18

yeah. III can call football,

15:21

which was a total lie. You

15:23

know, I'd never call football in my life. and

15:26

this felt like gave me a job on a

15:28

on a radio station. God loved them to

15:30

it left young. And my

15:32

first match was BahMedman versus worthwhile

15:35

and I I'd never seen any of

15:37

them and I I'd never called a football

15:39

match, but he didn't know that. So he gave

15:41

me the job and that's how it all started.

15:43

Wow. We're calling off the the program. How do

15:45

you know that now? Well, no, it's it's very

15:48

well, I'll I'll be honest with you. I'll

15:50

I'll I'll just fess up a little bit I

15:52

drove to Baham Medman from

15:54

young and people that live down there

15:56

would know that's a that's a fair trip

15:58

on corrugated gravel.

16:01

on Tuesday night, I did that to bowel

16:03

movement. Wednesday night, Thursday night, I did

16:05

it to Wes Wylon. So I had some

16:08

idea who who they were,

16:10

but If you think you can call from

16:12

numbers, you've got another thing coming

16:15

because when they're running towards you,

16:17

you're big trouble. You can't see the number.

16:20

That's a good point. So you

16:22

can't you can't call from numbers. Well,

16:24

you can't when they're running away from you,

16:26

but it's it's just so happens in

16:28

life and sometimes they're

16:31

running towards you. That's right. And

16:33

that's why I I would always say

16:36

was the morris twins or the burgess

16:38

twins. You know,

16:40

that you just can't identify

16:42

them accurately. And then I

16:44

found I found that the

16:47

twins, Morris, the

16:49

twins, Morris, one was

16:51

wearing added destiny, the other one was

16:53

wearing Essex, I fancy.

16:55

So I actually called them off their boots.

16:57

It's it's true. So it's Would

16:59

you ever put a request in to the

17:01

Morrist brothers, if you found out they were wearing the same

17:03

colored boots. Yes. Well,

17:05

this is this is probably not

17:07

the right time to to to

17:09

mention this, but Chris and Paul Dawson. How

17:12

Chris and Paul Dawson at

17:14

Newtown? Mhmm. I

17:16

took

17:17

with me when

17:19

I was doing new town games on radio,

17:21

of course, I would take a a

17:23

real of blue electrician's tape

17:26

and a reel of white. And I'd ask one

17:28

of them to put the white on on the other, to

17:30

put the blue on around here, to to

17:32

tie your ears down, and

17:35

they did exactly that

17:37

to me. So for the

17:39

entire match, you got them wrong.

17:43

the blood that was supposed to be blue. He was white. And the

17:45

white was blue. So they

17:47

got me. They got me good.

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18:25

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You know, if I have a crush on excellence Yeah.

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slashalisport. contributes. Do you

21:22

have an era of rugby league that you

21:24

enjoyed the most commentating? Well, I guess,

21:26

maybe like players or whether style? The

21:28

game was a certain way. Is there an era

21:30

that sticks out to you? Is the one

21:32

you enjoyed the most, an

21:34

era. Yeah. Yeah. I think the one I

21:36

finished on, really. That

21:38

that's one thing I I guess

21:40

I'm happy about it. I know I'm of

21:42

a dinosaur age, but

21:45

I I'm not one of those people

21:47

that longs for the old days

21:49

of football. I understand

21:52

the legalities involved if

21:54

directors and commissioners

21:57

don't realize they have a

21:59

duty they have a duty

22:02

to try and protect players from

22:04

injuries that they can protect them

22:06

from to a degree.

22:08

And as a result of that, the game

22:10

has become faster. They

22:12

are more athletic. They

22:15

are professional these days in

22:18

fairness to the old brigade. The

22:20

old brigader go and have five

22:22

schooners on their way home from training.

22:24

So these fellows are just

22:26

super fit. They're super athletes.

22:29

What they do to score tries

22:31

is incredible. given that the

22:33

corner post is not even

22:35

important anymore. But how many tries

22:37

would Ken Irvine have scored? if

22:40

the corner post hadn't have been in

22:42

play. Mhmm.

22:43

But I'm

22:44

just I'm digressing that. Do you ever

22:46

find just when you are watching it at home now,

22:48

that you slip into a bit of commentary, like, just as a reaction, if

22:50

something crazy happens, not as you're not calling it, but just like

22:52

that, yay, yay, yay, yay. III

22:56

understand Thank

22:58

you, Billy, for the question. Yeah.

23:01

Well, look at that a bit of

23:04

bloody Billy. Well,

23:07

well, we may we may as well touch on a little

23:09

on dad. What's what what was it like

23:11

having someone, you know, take

23:13

the piss out of you or, you know, imitate

23:16

you in that. So was he was he

23:18

like was he

23:20

famous by the time he started knocking you off? because

23:22

he'd said to me that you guys actually knew each

23:25

other earlier on you when

23:27

you say when you say knocking me off, can

23:29

you just clarify what you mean? What do

23:31

you mean? Impersonating you

23:34

on the Actually, I'd I would do

23:36

presenting his brother a lot of this. Well, yeah.

23:38

That's true. Well, yeah. He had he

23:40

had three brothers or four brothers, and

23:42

then he invented a brother that

23:45

didn't exist, but he he wanted the world to

23:47

think that we had a fourth brother

23:50

outside of Bob and Jack and Ray.

23:52

that the family didn't recognize.

23:54

In other words, he's the black sheep of the

23:56

family, and he he

23:58

he kept hopping on this. And

24:00

then one day on radio,

24:03

you were involved in

24:05

this, you're producing. And

24:08

When I got in the car, he'd

24:10

been on the show and he'd been talking about

24:13

Rick, which Rick

24:15

didn't didn't exist, you

24:17

know. And when I got in

24:19

the car, the phone rang, it was him. And it was it

24:21

was quite old at the time, you know. He was

24:23

in his certainly in his eighties.

24:26

And he said, I didn't know we had another

24:29

brother. I said Jack, I said

24:31

the bloke the bloke is

24:33

a an impersonator. a

24:35

bit of a dick here. And

24:38

I said, there is

24:40

no Rick. There is there

24:43

are just the three of us. me,

24:45

Bob, and you. So please,

24:48

rest. He said, yeah. But he he

24:50

he sort of he's degrading

24:53

embarrassing the family. You know,

24:55

mom and dad and everybody. I

24:57

said, well, I made a report. He's

24:59

an impersonator comedian.

25:01

So I said, please don't worry about him. Yeah. That's

25:03

fair. What did you what did you give you

25:05

his impersonation out of ten?

25:08

Oh, probably up

25:10

around the the eight or the nine?

25:12

Yeah. Pretty good. He's pretty good. He's

25:14

he's very good. The only blake

25:16

that I've heard probably better than him as my son, Mark. He

25:19

he's got me down to a tee.

25:21

I mean, I might be up I might be supposed to

25:23

be doing a commercial for somebody, and I

25:25

can't make it. So He

25:28

does the commercials.

25:30

Yeah. Well, that would I'm sort of joking

25:32

there. But but it's not it's Look.

25:34

It's our little secret. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We

25:36

can cut that it out. How did

25:39

you get the job well, not get the

25:41

job? How did you get to do the voice on

25:43

blueie? I was sitting there watching it with my

25:45

daughter there like during origin period.

25:47

I was like, bloody rabs in there. Yeah. That's

25:49

right. It reminds me of

25:51

the first job I did for channel nine

25:53

were the the Greyhound's.

25:56

It went with Park and Harrell Park. It was

25:58

a show here called

26:00

British comedy going to the dogs.

26:03

and that was my first

26:05

job on channel nine that I remember.

26:07

And the last show

26:09

I did, the last thing I did on

26:12

television was also with the dogs, the blue

26:14

heel in bluey. I didn't even

26:16

know. I didn't even I'd never heard

26:18

of bluey. Okay. is huge. Should

26:20

it? Absolutely massive. It's it's it's

26:23

one a Emmy award or whatever.

26:25

I don't know what it's one, but

26:29

Mark, he found them

26:31

or they found him. I'm not sure. And

26:33

he said, they they wanna

26:35

give you the mountainous amount of money

26:37

to do it. I said, how much is it?

26:39

It's got ninety nine dollars, you know.

26:42

And I and I said, alright.

26:44

We gotta get more than that for her. But

26:46

I know that sounds mercenary,

26:48

but and then

26:51

share my wife. She stepped in and

26:53

she said, the little fellow,

26:55

that's a Holly's boy, Matteo.

26:58

They they live with

27:00

us. the And

27:02

she said, you've gotta do it. She

27:04

said, Mateo watches it all the time.

27:07

So said to

27:09

Marcus, See if you can get another dollar out of

27:11

them. Will you make it a hundred? because

27:13

III just gotten used

27:15

to getting I I got out on ninety

27:17

nine with Origin. So if get a hundred for

27:19

doing blue it, but no. Seriously.

27:22

You you speak of getting in on ninety

27:25

nine origins. Ray Hadley

27:27

is of the opinion, he's gonna get to a

27:29

hundred and then retired. And then

27:31

retired. What how do you

27:33

feel about that? doesn't

27:35

worry me. Doesn't worry me at all.

27:38

I would I would probably

27:40

expect that he would be pretty

27:42

close to it. And I think he started

27:44

He started in eighty seven, I

27:47

think, which would

27:49

be a couple of years before me anyway because

27:51

I I didn't do an origin

27:53

for channel nine until

27:56

eighty nine. Mhmm. Yeah.

27:58

Eighty nine. So he he

28:00

probably would Yeah.

28:02

He he'll get to the hundred easily. Yeah.

28:04

On origin, would would

28:06

you prefer to call that or a grandfauna

28:09

in terms of energy and now I love grand

28:11

I love grand finals. Yeah. I do.

28:13

I I love grand finals.

28:16

The trouble with with origin, I guess, is

28:18

that you don't know is sometimes when

28:20

you go to work, you don't know

28:22

that you know, is this a decider?

28:24

You think about game

28:26

two. Game two is super value because

28:28

you don't know whether you're going to

28:30

watch a decider or not. If

28:33

you think about it, you might have won

28:35

game one. And if you

28:37

win game two, that's it. That's the

28:40

series. Interesting. you got it? Which

28:42

which one's your favorite grand final? There are two which I yeah.

28:44

I imagined like the I think it's Is it

28:46

eighty seven? Right. It's Manley and then

28:48

the cowboys, Bronco's one

28:50

where like they were really close. Yes.

28:54

See, I was in the wilderness for

28:56

about five years. I

29:00

was, if you like,

29:02

supplanted by REX back

29:04

in eighty six after

29:06

the eighty six grand final, and I was

29:08

out of I was out of play for

29:10

five years. So

29:12

I I've got to tell

29:14

you that because I I can't talk to you

29:16

about the eighty seven fatty's grand final.

29:18

I can't talk about eighty eight, eighty

29:21

nine, ninety, ninety one. because I just

29:23

wasn't interested. You know, III

29:26

lost interest because I was downcast.

29:31

And I, therefore, would

29:33

think the one that was the most

29:35

entertaining I've done would be

29:37

the two thousand and fifteen. and

29:40

I'm talking about particularly the last three minutes.

29:42

I mean, that had everything.

29:45

Felt scores in

29:47

the corner. levels first

29:49

and hits the the uprights,

29:52

bounces away. Golden Point,

29:54

they kick off. Benhardt drops the

29:57

ball. I've never felt so sorry for a

29:59

bokeh. I thought, oh my god.

30:01

You poor bokeh. And then on

30:03

the fourth play, Jonathan

30:05

just goes bang, and there it is, and

30:08

he takes the Premier ship. Yeah.

30:10

Again, another moment you nailed, you know,

30:12

like that commentary, that's like a

30:14

really famous pace the three played over and

30:16

over and over again. Yeah. Well, I'm proud

30:18

of that, you know, because you're you're

30:20

right. Yeah. I I was lucky enough to nail

30:22

that. Yeah. That was incredible.

30:24

Now that you're retired, are you prepared to admit

30:26

that you're an eel fan? I

30:28

there was a period that was, like yeah.

30:31

There was a period I followed the heels, but you got to you got

30:33

to cut me some slack. When I

30:35

came from young, I

30:38

went to two GB. and

30:41

we bought a little house at seven

30:44

hills. Then we moved

30:46

up. We thought we were moving right up. We

30:48

went to Northmead. And

30:50

then we went from Northmead to Castle Hill. So I've

30:52

lived in the Parramatta area -- Mhmm. --

30:54

all my Sydney life. So you've got

30:56

to know that. Mhmm. And then

31:00

a young boat, Chris,

31:02

he got involved with

31:04

the SG ball of Parramatta, and they went on

31:06

to win the win the SG ball.

31:10

He he won the Commonwealth

31:12

Bank Cup playing for Parramatta Wireless. There was

31:14

a lot of Parramatta going

31:16

on in our in our world, in

31:18

our life. But when it

31:20

came time for grading

31:22

back in those days, you're

31:24

talking, I think you're talking first grade, second

31:26

grade, third grade. or maybe for the

31:28

first grade, reserve grade under twenty

31:31

one something like that. Parramatta

31:34

didn't want him Or should I

31:37

say, they didn't need him?

31:39

And he went to Western suburbs with

31:41

a lot of other kids from Parramatta.

31:44

He went to Western suburbs, MagPies, not

31:46

West Tiger. And

31:48

I then found myself going with him

31:50

to watch him play for Western suburbs.

31:54

And it was then that I realized, hang

31:56

on, I'm not a true eel supporter.

31:58

The first time Western suburbs

32:01

played Parramatta, I I was bragging

32:03

for Western suburbs. Okay. With all

32:05

of with all of my

32:07

vigor. and then he

32:09

went with the first pioneers

32:11

to the Western Reds. So

32:13

then I found myself trying to

32:15

watch the Western Reds and with

32:17

all my vigor again, but it was hard to

32:19

was hard to get him on television from

32:21

memory. I I don't know whether

32:24

whether Fox were doing all the games. I'm not quite

32:26

sure. Okay? That's

32:29

that's the story about Parramatta, but

32:31

at the end of the day, I I was living

32:34

in their territory. Well, I

32:36

became I became very good friends with with

32:39

Peter and Peter Wynn.

32:42

and Arthur Beatzen and Bob

32:44

O'Reilly and all those people. Yeah.

32:46

I'd I'd admit to that. Would you be going for him

32:48

this weekend? Not

32:51

really because I I've learned

32:54

since that rumor became

32:56

popular that Eddie's talking. I

32:58

I basically tried desperately

33:00

after all of that just to be

33:03

down the middle -- Mhmm. -- just down

33:05

the middle and

33:07

it actually it aggravates me when

33:09

I when I get told that

33:11

your bias towards Parramatta or

33:13

your bias towards New South Wales. That's a

33:15

load of below just a load of baloney. Well,

33:18

I must admit, I've I've never noticed any bias.

33:20

No. Other than that rumor, which I thought I Well,

33:22

we just yeah. We heard the rumor but

33:24

no bias. We just said you're talking

33:27

before. We did this with

33:29

Mike and you're talking about Kerry Parker

33:31

and those sort of What

33:33

what was Carrie like? I don't

33:35

know. I don't know.

33:38

To because because I was

33:40

I wasn't frightened of him, but I

33:43

think the word is I was intimidated.

33:45

I'd heard all these stories about

33:47

he could be gruff, you know,

33:49

and he he,

33:51

you know, he yeah.

33:53

I was a bit intimidated,

33:55

you know. And somewhere

33:57

along the line, somebody said that

33:59

he I I can't remember what

34:01

the conversation was, but I went

34:03

through life thinking that he didn't like

34:06

me. he'd come to the canteen,

34:08

our mobile canteen, and I'd

34:10

find a way to to go missing.

34:13

Oh, yeah. He never ever came

34:15

into the commentary box. Not

34:18

that I remember. Okay.

34:20

So I I probably I

34:22

was I was dreaming of somebody

34:24

not liking me and and and

34:27

I don't like that. You know, if you

34:29

if you don't like me, that's okay. But if

34:31

you don't know me, why

34:34

don't you? don't you just wanna be friends? Yeah. Look, we're about

34:36

the great carry packer. I admire

34:38

him unbelievably, and I still

34:42

do. And then John Cornell,

34:44

after Keri had passed on, I said to

34:46

John, I said, I don't think he liked me that

34:48

much. And John said,

34:50

your kid, and he said, he loved you. I

34:52

said, shivers, what a

34:54

mistake? What

34:56

a mistake? I went to the

34:58

wedding. Actually, it went to James and

35:00

Jody's wedding. Oh, really? Yeah. So you

35:02

really didn't get you didn't have much to do that.

35:04

better. That that was that was just gonna

35:06

say that that's the only time I ever shook hands

35:08

with him and I don't think he knew he was

35:10

shaking hands with me because we were

35:12

going we're filing into the wedding

35:14

and you met the bridal group. James and

35:17

Jody and Kerrie and Ross. And everybody

35:19

had been delivered by magazines and

35:21

it was peddling down. It

35:23

was bucketing down. and

35:26

they're all under umbrellas and they're getting wet. Where by

35:28

now, we're in the foyer. And

35:31

I introduced chair

35:34

to Ross And she said, Ray,

35:36

I know. That that's right. When

35:38

she came up, Ross said to Shear,

35:40

hello, Shear. How are you? And I said, how did you know

35:42

Shear's no? And she said, I've been

35:44

doing the invitations for about six

35:46

years or something like that.

35:48

And with that,

35:50

I then put my hand out to shake hands with

35:52

Kerry. And he was

35:54

shaking your hand, but he's looking over

35:56

the top of shares head and says

35:58

to Rose. Rose, you can't keep

36:00

talking to every body that are out there getting

36:02

drowned the pool buggers. So

36:05

then he ushered me with

36:07

the other hand under his

36:09

armpits. into the next

36:12

lobby. So I think that was the

36:14

only time I've ever shaken hands with them. So that

36:16

did nothing for your concerns

36:18

about whether life to you or not

36:20

when he's just sort of pushing you. We can't be sure. No. We can't be sure. No.

36:22

When did you start to feel

36:25

How how long until your commentary career

36:27

did you start to feel like, I don't know, I

36:30

guess maybe comfortable. Did you or is it something that

36:32

you never felt comfortable

36:34

in it? you've such a household name now.

36:36

Was there a tipping point or a moment where you

36:38

were like, you know, it sort

36:40

of sunk

36:42

in? Sunk in

36:44

what? I guess just like your place in

36:47

Australian society or

36:49

like the cultural rugby league. Part of the fabric.

36:51

Thanks, Edward. IIII

36:54

think there's a combination of

36:56

things there.

36:59

the

37:00

the hall of fame

37:02

that sort of convinced me that

37:04

I must have done something right because

37:08

Nobody from the press or

37:10

the radio or television had been

37:12

admitted or inducted to

37:14

the Rugby League Hall of

37:16

Fame that that was something that I I think

37:18

probably said to me what you've just about done it, you

37:20

know, what what's left

37:22

now. because along the

37:24

along the trail has

37:26

been media hall of fame at the

37:28

Sydney Creekground broadcast

37:30

center at Allianz Stadium, named

37:33

after me, statue, a

37:36

journey, order of Australia,

37:39

and then hall

37:41

of fame, a might have forgotten something there

37:43

that the No. I heard the honor role. No.

37:46

Not yet. The honor

37:48

role at

37:50

men of league, all imprint on me.

37:53

Make no mistake about that. You

37:55

know, I I was so

37:58

proud And

37:59

and

38:01

but it it had to be the combination

38:03

of things and you

38:06

say, jeez. there's not much left to do, is

38:08

it? Do you miss your your mate's fatty

38:10

still on gas? Do you catch up? Have you caught up

38:12

with him? No.

38:14

Not really, Tom. You've got

38:17

to understand I'm in my 80th year

38:19

in this sort of a generation

38:22

behind me. So we haven't got a

38:24

lot in common. I've got to tell you,

38:26

you know, the Fady, you've

38:28

got more chance of finding him on a

38:30

golf course

38:32

than at home? Gus is

38:35

fairly intense. I

38:38

mean, Doug, I'm breaking you. Yeah. I

38:40

think you said

38:42

it was. the greatest rugby league brand in the world,

38:44

but I think he's been devoured by

38:46

the game. Mhmm.

38:48

It's a great way to put it. Yeah.

38:50

But, no, I I Don't

38:53

get me wrong. I think he's an absolute

38:55

absolute freak, how he he understands television.

38:59

He understands television so

39:02

beautifully. And

39:04

Fady, well, I I dealt with him,

39:08

still low.

39:08

No.

39:09

He's he's sort of the same as as Fady.

39:11

You know, they both love a pun, and they

39:14

both love their golf.

39:16

Mhmm. Yeah. You you're saying before you don't you don't get to play much

39:18

golf anymore. Do you still like

39:20

to have a punt in your

39:22

time off? Well,

39:24

I'll I'll love to have a pump, but you don't have

39:26

to play golf to have a pump. No. No.

39:28

You don't. It was just because you're saying that Sturlough

39:30

was a golfer and a punter. Oh, no.

39:32

I I meant both of them. They they like to have a punt on the horses, and

39:34

they love to have a punt on the gulf. Yeah. Yeah.

39:36

Right. Yeah. Did you we were wondering,

39:38

like, did you used to have have

39:41

you got any stories around of some punting? You and Ray used

39:43

to play golf a bit, didn't you? Or me or

39:45

was he making that up? Or am I making that

39:48

up? I think he makes it up a a few

39:50

times, you know. there's a great

39:52

old theory, you know, you don't spoil a

39:54

good story by telling the truth.

39:56

But we we plan a lot

39:58

together. Yeah. against each other

40:00

and all the rest of it, and Sterling was a

40:02

part of

40:03

that.

40:05

But my shareholders, Again, there

40:07

are things that are inevitable.

40:10

And my shoulders, they got

40:12

weaker and weaker, and the ball didn't go

40:14

as far, you know. actually hit the

40:16

ball backwards one day.

40:18

So I don't know why we're

40:20

bogging down on golf. I mean, I

40:22

I wasn't much good Well, yeah, I know

40:24

you liked it. I remember when I was pre like, it was the first day I

40:26

think I was working at triple m, and they were, like, Ray's

40:28

on the show, and I was, like, holy shit

40:32

Ray Warren. And I would have to call you before the show and, like, talk you through

40:34

the things or things you're talking about.

40:36

And you were on the golf course, and you'd be like,

40:38

hold on

40:40

a second, you put your phone down, and then you'd go. I just hear it all, like,

40:42

smack in the background and then you come back. Like,

40:44

dad, you're literally like, no. I'm smashed it. Like, you

40:46

nailed it. We'd go on talking

40:48

about the

40:50

show. I mean, I knew you didn't enjoy your golf, but I just Yeah.

40:53

Yeah. It's disappointing. The shoulders have

40:55

gone. You know, they had

40:57

failed. Yeah. They had a not

41:00

a series. They had a commandment there that

41:02

you'd be there an hour before the show.

41:04

III too

41:06

busy playing golf I I be there for a

41:09

production meeting. So you'd ring up and I'd say, hang

41:11

on. I've just got a six foot putt here and

41:13

I'll come back. That was

41:15

our production meeting. Have you ever

41:17

owned a horse? No.

41:19

No. Never. No. No.

41:21

I syndicated one for

41:23

AAA friend

41:26

of mine. couldn't pick its feet up. And all I

41:28

got was criticism from

41:30

the syndicators. There were

41:32

five in the syndication, and I was

41:35

if you like, the self appointed manager.

41:38

Mhmm. So I wasn't an owner.

41:40

No. But oh, dear.

41:42

Dear. Dear. You can train horses and do all You can

41:44

syndicate horses, but you can't

41:46

train the owners. You know,

41:48

they all think

41:50

they're buying talic.

41:52

They all think they're buying winks. Yeah.

41:54

Yeah. It's not winks. It's

41:56

a it's a very slow horse.

41:58

and we finished up we finished up selling it to Macau.

42:00

I think they paid a total

42:03

of sixty thousand. our

42:06

dollars and we sold it to Macau for

42:08

about ten. Macau. So

42:10

a prudent investment. We couldn't get

42:12

it to run a place in a barrier truck.

42:15

True story

42:18

then. What was it called?

42:20

What do they call it? I

42:22

don't know. Was it was a red Tony? It was

42:24

a red trolley. I'll never forget that. There was a sigh. I don't know what they

42:26

called it. I can't remember. But we

42:29

we had to

42:31

run a place in a barrier trial so that we'd be able

42:33

to sell it to Hong Kong or Singapore or

42:36

Macau and

42:38

my trainer or

42:40

the trainer. He rang me up. He said, there's five in this trial

42:42

today. He said, we'll be running a place.

42:44

So I said, how do you work that as if

42:47

they're all my horses They're

42:49

all my horses, and they're all

42:51

my track work riders. And

42:53

they know what we have to do. We have

42:55

to get this red Tony to run

42:58

a place. still couldn't run a place. But all the help in

43:00

the world, it still couldn't run

43:02

a place.

43:04

May lord, We appreciate your

43:06

time. We will get you we'll we'll let you out here

43:08

in just a second. Just a couple of

43:10

things before we let you go. We've had a

43:12

birthday while Buny.

43:22

how does it feel having a documentary made about

43:24

you? Oh, is it calling time? Ray Warren, on Channel nine, this

43:26

is coming out on Friday night. That

43:28

must be if it's surreal. Yeah.

43:32

surreal is one word. The

43:34

trouble is I can't have a conversation with you

43:36

about it because I I'm only expecting

43:40

rather than knowing -- Mhmm. -- what's in it.

43:42

Some guys have been

43:45

working their butt off, Alex

43:47

Rolls and Liam Berkley.

43:50

and they they've been on the road and

43:52

Liam has been the editor and

43:54

Alex the producer. I'm aware of

43:57

all of that. but I haven't any knowledge of what's

43:59

in it. Other than I would suspect,

44:02

there'll be something to

44:04

do with weren't

44:06

calling a time. In other

44:08

words, I I think it'll go

44:10

back through my childhood

44:12

and it'll make its way up to my

44:14

career. But from

44:16

what I'm told, those that

44:17

have been able

44:21

to watch some of it. It it's apparently quite good. Yeah.

44:23

And will you watch that at home

44:25

with the families? Absolutely. Yeah.

44:28

I got noted. Well, where

44:30

would I go to watch it? I don't know. They

44:32

could be throwing your party.

44:34

Oh. I was just gonna

44:36

put it onto the pub. Somebody said

44:38

and said, I mean, we're gonna watch the grand finals.

44:40

I said, well, let them in the

44:43

lounge, you know.

44:44

the Don't

44:46

get me wrong. I I can go to the football. Mhmm. No

44:48

problem. But I'd rather not

44:50

have to worry about taking my car,

44:52

finding a car park, and all

44:55

of that sort of stuff. So I'll sit in the

44:57

lounge and and watch it there. We're gonna have we're

44:59

gonna watch it in the studio. I see you more than welcome to

45:01

join us. Come down to our studio if you aren't and see

45:03

if you want. No. I'd rather stay at

45:05

home. Decor. No. I'm quite I'm quite

45:08

comfortable in my own company. No. That's fine.

45:10

That's fine. But I thought I'd

45:12

no. No. It'd be rude not to offer. Well,

45:14

it'd be rude not to say thank

45:16

you, but I'll be okay.

45:20

Yeah. One thing before before we go. So

45:22

there was a moment for me, Rob's

45:24

where I and

45:26

I just wanna make sure that you didn't hear this.

45:28

But I was was one morning

45:30

I'd woken up after a large night. And I

45:34

was sort of popping my head out of the

45:36

bathroom and I was talking to someone else that I was

45:38

living with

45:40

And I was detailing some events that had happened the

45:42

night before, all legal, but a little

45:44

salacious. And, you know, I was just

45:46

detailing them to this person. quite

45:49

loudly. And then I've gone and picked up my phone and

45:52

I've you've you're you're on

45:54

the phone. And it's answered and I can

45:56

see it like taking over and

45:58

I'm like, Holy shit. What is going on here?

46:00

And it's gone through to your voicemail, I

46:02

assume. And so I realized that

46:04

this detailed

46:06

sort of reenactment of

46:08

the night before has been recorded on your voice mail.

46:10

I never heard anything about it from you, and I assumed

46:12

that you hadn't heard it, but I just wanted to

46:14

make sure that you hadn't heard a voice mail from

46:17

me that went for like fifteen minutes. That's how long it took

46:19

you to tell the story. I've

46:24

forgotten. Was there a question? Take

46:27

that as a no. Take that as

46:29

a no. III didn't hear it

46:31

otherwise. You would have

46:34

heard Okay. Good. Good. It was one of the more terrifying moments

46:36

of my life. We've been talking about a few years. Yeah. It's

46:38

good to know. It's good to know. Yeah.

46:40

No. III didn't get

46:42

that. Oh, good. Mind you, I I don't

46:44

get modern technology. I'm

46:46

hopeless, really hopeless. Yes.

46:48

Yeah. I I just never

46:50

wanted to keep up, and I I haven't

46:52

kept up. And my

46:54

mobile, I'll say to

46:56

my my wife or my daughter,

46:58

I'll say, God's like, whoa, what have I done here? You

47:00

know? Oh, it's just

47:02

absolute pain. Absolute pain.

47:05

And I say, go online and do this and go

47:07

online and do that. Go online. What do you mean

47:10

go online? What's what's the

47:12

telephone number?

47:14

You know, give me a telephone. And and

47:17

then there's always ads that we

47:19

do, you know, go to,

47:23

tom birmingham dot com dot

47:25

a u. What do you mean? I can't

47:27

even use the computer. What's

47:30

your telephone now? Just give the

47:33

telephone. Yeah. No. Just give the telephone. Well, mate

47:35

Thank you very much. Thank you very

47:37

much for your time. It genuinely genuinely has been

47:39

an honor to have you on the podcast and to have been

47:41

able to work the over the

47:43

years. Congratulations on everything

47:45

and good luck you

47:47

know, with the mowing of the lawns and the cleaning of the pool

47:50

and everything else. Prudy of the roses.

47:52

Yes. Yeah.

47:54

Yeah. land

47:56

mines. You got the land mines? You

47:58

forgot the dog land mines. Yeah. That's

48:01

my major job that Yeah. No.

48:03

It's been nice talking to you. You know, we had we had a lot time together, Tom, didn't we?

48:05

Mhmm. And I've got to thank you for getting

48:07

me out of the studio one day

48:09

when I had I had

48:11

some kind of a turn. I don't know what it was.

48:13

Yeah. But you were there and

48:16

between you and

48:18

young Mark, you got me to a

48:20

hospital, but they still can't find out

48:22

what's wrong with me. That was bizarre, wasn't

48:24

it? Well, I've forgotten to tell you

48:26

this truth. I I had actually forgotten I was in the studio. Yeah.

48:28

That was what was weird. You were like, what where

48:30

where am I? And you're like, what's going on here? And we were

48:32

like, showing you the paper and giving you the time

48:34

and all that sort

48:36

of stuff. Yeah. The the the specialist after that

48:38

run all the tests said, we can't find anything wrong

48:40

with you, but you had too

48:42

much on your

48:44

mind. You your mind or your brain was trying to process too

48:46

many things at the same

48:48

time. And that's what brought

48:49

it on. tell

48:51

you what? computer might help you with that. You can

48:54

download a couple of your thoughts under the

48:56

computer and sort of clear the mind a little bit.

48:58

You're you're a typical birmingham

49:00

as you. Thank

49:02

you very much. Thank you, Ryan. Appreciate

49:04

it, man. Enjoy your time. Beautiful. My pleasure.

49:06

Could you too just not talking

49:10

anymore?