0:00

Mom Plus Gold

0:02

is overflowing with content,

0:04

honey. In October, we

0:06

introduced our Halloween makeup series, Boo

0:08

Bitch, featuring Selena Estetes, Mayhem

0:11

Miller, and more. We had our monthly

0:13

video episode of Race Chaser Plus, exclusive

0:16

video episodes of Hot Coss

0:19

and Unplugged. Nicole Byer stopped

0:21

by to play the Best Judy test with Meatball,

0:24

and I think we beat them. And Vanity

0:26

Milan is dragging us through every episode of

0:28

Drag Race UK Season 5

0:29

in her video recap show. Sloppy

0:32

Seconds invited you behind the scenes into

0:34

one of their recordings. Jinx answered your

0:36

voicemails every week on the Hi Jinx line, and

0:39

Delta went off about Project Runway,

0:41

Pornhub, and the only time she'll dip

0:43

her egg rolls on the bonus show, More

0:45

Very Delta. All that for $20? Mama. Girl.

0:50

Plus, you get

0:51

early access, ad-free

0:53

listening, and access to every

0:55

mom show ever. I

0:58

personally have been binging old episodes

1:00

of Very That after watching the Very

1:02

That reunion, which you can also watch all

1:04

on Mom Gold. Join Mom Plus Gold

1:07

now at mompodcast.plus. Who

1:10

knows what's coming next? Ah!

1:14

M. Oh. M. Mom!

1:28

Hi, everyone. I'm Jinx

1:30

Monsoon, and welcome to Hi Jinx, a

1:33

podcast where I, an internationally

1:36

tolerated drag superstar,

1:39

get to interview compelling and

1:41

fascinating people about how they became who they

1:43

are and why they do what they

1:45

do. I'm your host, Jinx.

1:48

And I'm your host,

1:50

Mom. And I'm your host, Mom. And

1:54

I'm your host, Mom. And I'm your

1:56

host, Mom. And I'm

1:58

your host, Mom. drag queen, singer-songwriter,

2:02

business entrepreneurs,

2:05

vocalists, Emmy-nominated

2:08

after, and my

2:10

mom, Willem.

2:13

Hi, Willem. Hello.

2:16

Well, both you and Alaska, the

2:20

producers of this show, both

2:22

don't know that you're supposed to say, hi,

2:24

Jinx. When I say, hi,

2:26

Willem.

2:28

Oh. Hi, Jinx. Let's

2:31

try to get... You

2:33

look like... What do you look like?

2:35

You look like a Monster High doll right now.

2:38

Girl, don't I look great? Yeah.

2:40

Get up into the gig. Where'd

2:43

your mustache go? We shaved

2:45

it. Yosemite Samantha's on remission right

2:47

now. Was there a

2:49

story behind that I missed?

2:52

Yeah, it was good. Yeah, you did

2:54

look good. I'm just wondering. I'm

2:56

just wondering. You felt like growing a mustache?

2:59

You know,

3:01

a Yau Numu hair. I am a woman,

3:03

but

3:05

I can grow hair out of my face, and sometimes

3:07

I thought it could create a cool shape, so I did it.

3:10

And I had a back surgery. I had a replacement,

3:13

a disc replacement, L5S1,

3:16

and so I was down for a couple months. My

3:19

dad is the smartest man I know, because he said

3:22

as soon as he was done in the military and

3:24

didn't have to shave anymore, he said he would never shave his upper

3:26

lip again, and he never did. I've never seen

3:28

him without a mustache. So with my mustache, I felt

3:30

like I looked like my dad, and I loved that

3:33

because I love my dad. He's

3:35

so cool. He took me to my first drag show when I was 13. He

3:38

let me go to Rocky Horror while he was sleeping

3:40

in the car for the midnight showings for

3:43

more of a minute. My dad is the coolest

3:45

guy, so I was so happy. So you were just having fun

3:47

growing your facial hair? I was just being

3:50

fun. I don't know if I was able

3:52

to. But here's the thing is because both

3:54

you and Alaska, you curate

3:57

the experience.

4:01

You put a lot of thought into what you do.

4:03

So I kept saying

4:05

to people,

4:11

Willem's got a mustache now. Did

4:14

I miss something? And they'd say

4:16

she had back surgery.

4:18

And I'd go, I just don't get how

4:20

the one thing has to do with the other. But

4:23

I'm happy. What I was happy

4:25

was, you know what I was happy about?

4:28

Was someone who is obviously

4:31

so gorgeous, who has made her career

4:34

on being just, you know, the

4:37

Hollywood bombshell

4:39

that she is. Well, like you're aesthetic.

4:45

I was all over the goal. Lonnie Anderson.

4:47

I wanted to be Lonnie Anderson growing up because she

4:49

was in the tabloids married to Burt Reynolds all the time.

4:51

I was like, I want to be this blonde lady with the fake tits.

4:54

It's so clear that, you know, you're going

4:56

for this Hollywood bombshell. But

4:59

what I love is, you know, you've

5:01

already proven that that's what you do

5:03

and you do that. And then you grew a handlebar

5:05

mustache. And it was kind of like

5:08

saying, look at all the things

5:10

that I can be. And I love

5:13

that. And it takes me to my first question.

5:18

You're used to getting probed, but

5:20

do you like a probing interview?

5:23

I do, honestly. And like this is like

5:25

this feels like my safe space because you're such a

5:27

good friend. And it doesn't like we've, you know,

5:29

we've been in the trenches and toured.

5:31

Well, this is what I want to this is what I

5:33

want

5:33

to ask. And it's going to sound blunt. Well,

5:36

just remember question, question, compliment. Okay.

5:38

Sure. Well, I gave you. Here's

5:41

the here's

5:43

the question. Do you think

5:46

your partnership

5:48

with Alaska

5:50

being business partners, creative

5:53

collaborators at all,

5:56

do you think it has made you a better human

5:58

being and a better drag queen?

6:00

100% the way that I recognize

6:04

that my paint changed when I used

6:06

to paint next to Detox and Vicky. And

6:09

I became better in that sense. Like

6:11

you run into other drag queens and you

6:14

learn from them, especially,

6:17

you know, she's so brilliant.

6:19

She's like, it mazes us all on the show with her creativity.

6:22

And like,

6:23

she and I have like, we

6:26

create

6:27

good stuff together. We both find this... We create

6:29

great stuff, objectively great

6:31

stuff together. I think we

6:33

were like, we're both from

6:35

Pennsylvania and we both have a lot of

6:37

the same like gay niche references, like

6:40

Party Girl and like Heather

6:42

Headley and Aida and like all these

6:45

weird like, you know, Linda

6:47

Etter songs that were in the Jekyll and Hyde workshop and

6:49

not the original cast

6:51

recording, like random weird

6:54

shit. And

6:56

I think that's, you know...

6:57

That's what bombs drag queens,

6:59

you know, drag, all

7:01

drag is so referential to

7:04

what we, the human being and the

7:06

artist personally has been affected

7:08

by in their life. That's what drag is. At

7:12

least that's how American drag,

7:14

that's where it's at. Plus

7:17

lunch ups and drink tickets. Yeah, and exposure.

7:19

You do it for exposure, right? Yeah.

7:23

So, you know, like you look at most

7:25

drag queens of the last hundred years

7:27

and it's like, it's all referential.

7:30

It's all referential. Just, you look at

7:32

bunny and it's all referential. So

7:35

of course that's something that bonds you.

7:39

Give me that flag, now hold

7:41

it up and then move it away. I

7:43

don't know what I'm gonna do now that they've discontinued

7:46

the powder from my wig. But

7:54

she got a new face, do you hear? No I

7:56

didn't hear. Yeah, she got all yank, vertical

7:58

and smooth. They

8:00

put a foot on the back of her neck and said, take

8:02

a deep breath. But

8:06

I think, I know 100% my

8:08

partnership with Della through the years

8:11

and my collaboration with Della. I've

8:13

become a better writer. I've

8:15

become a better performer. I

8:18

don't produce

8:20

the holiday tour with her, but

8:23

I'm calling the shots on my summer tour right

8:25

now and I'm better at doing that because

8:27

I've watched Della produce our tour

8:29

for the last five years. So

8:31

I think there's something, I talk

8:34

about it a lot on this podcast,

8:36

but there's something to be said for partnerships.

8:39

I think we are at a time where we

8:41

are so sick of people

8:44

that we want to root for friendships.

8:47

And friendships right now are,

8:50

look at the queens, every queen

8:52

whose name, aside from Bianca,

8:56

that bitch doesn't have a friend in the

8:58

world. No, I'm just trying to get her to

9:00

host. They couldn't get anyone to be your partner. Fucking

9:02

cunt. That's exactly why Bianca was the

9:04

host of the track. They did her own cools and dropped

9:07

the pay-through first. No,

9:10

but you think of all the top queens

9:13

and the way they've partnered up, even just on

9:15

your own. You and Ben,

9:17

you know, Thorgy and a dumpster.

9:19

Trixie and Koshia. Trixie and Koshia. And

9:22

then on your own. We actually

9:24

call them DWC.

9:26

Dumb white cunt.

9:27

We've also

9:29

got on Moggles of Media. We've

9:32

got Latrice Royale and Manila Luzon

9:34

do the chop. Delta Work and Raja

9:36

do very that. Well, they used to. They

9:39

used to. We appreciate the show. Well, I'm talking

9:42

about the friendships. We've got Priyanka

9:44

and Ricklyn Heights doing Famous this

9:46

week. Sloppy Seconds with Big Dipper

9:48

and Meatball. Meatball's a rising

9:50

star. She really is. She's in

9:53

the closet with Jada and Heidi. So

9:56

what do you think it is about friendships?

9:59

I told you. theory. What

10:03

do you think about your friendship with Alaska

10:06

Unlocked, where you're

10:08

at right now? Well, I'll tell you this, I

10:10

don't listen to podcasts because it's

10:12

like having, it's like constantly being at

10:15

a party and having to pay attention to what people are saying.

10:17

And when I'm like working around the studio, like

10:19

I'll put on music, but like, I can't be listening

10:22

to what someone else

10:23

is saying really, and

10:25

get stuff that I need done without taking ADHD

10:27

medicine because like honestly, I'm so scattered

10:30

and like, I can't compartmentalize

10:32

my,

10:33

my sights and sounds

10:35

that way sometimes. So like, I don't listen

10:37

to podcasts, honestly. I

10:39

listened to yours once. The first

10:42

one. And I was like, yeah, I love it. But I'm

10:44

not a podcast girl. I don't listen to mine either. And

10:46

maybe like, I'm not a podcast. I

10:49

get them. I get them in proximity.

10:52

But I understand how podcasts work.

10:54

And the people in your ears are your

10:57

friends. So when they have two sets of

10:59

friends that are like, Alaskan Willem,

11:01

or that's me, but like,

11:04

when they have, it's like they're in on the rapport.

11:06

And it's like, I'm on the right ear, Alaska's

11:09

on the left ear, and we're talking through their brain. They're

11:11

enjoying the conversation. Sometimes they're in the conversation.

11:13

Like I make it a goal to talk about Courtney act at least once

11:16

the episode, because like, I know she listens

11:18

and she's like our sister, and we were in bands together

11:20

and like, you know, so like, I think the friendship

11:22

transmits through the sounds and the ears and people

11:25

hear it and they they want to have a good time when

11:27

they listen to all the mom shows, like Jada

11:29

and Heidi, their podcast is exactly

11:31

like touring with them and getting ready in a dressing

11:33

room and Delta and Raja was the same thing.

11:36

When Forever Dog approached us about

11:38

doing mom, we were just like, we just need like

11:40

people that like talk good with each other that are friends and

11:42

have like the rapport, because basically you're

11:44

just sharing your rapport. And I think the friendships

11:47

that I've made in drag have been the secret to

11:49

my successes, because I always work better in groups,

11:52

boys at bottom and chow down with Vicki and D

11:54

like can't top that like ever. It's

11:56

like it's played at every gay club.

11:59

Like and that was That was a group collaboration,

12:01

you know?

12:04

The same thing with like the stuff with Alaska

12:06

and Courtney. Like I love doing that, but

12:09

the podcast thing has been especially good for

12:11

my own self-esteem because I feel like I'm actually doing something

12:14

and I'm creating jobs and helping drag queens

12:16

get their voices out there. Like trying

12:19

to be of service to like the community and like,

12:21

you know, I'm

12:24

trying to be, because I'm not always good, so

12:26

at least I can be fucking useful, you know? That's

12:29

how I look at it in my life. I'm trying to put

12:31

more plus in. Knowing

12:33

you as long as I have, I

12:36

can say you are a very good

12:38

person, but you're also like,

12:40

you know, you don't have a lot of patience for

12:43

buffoonery, for bullshit,

12:46

and I think, oh my gosh, I was just watching

12:49

this clip of, who has a Catherine Heigl

12:52

saying something like, people

12:54

say she's difficult to work with and she

12:56

was just like, you know, I used to say,

12:58

I don't think I am, but now I'm saying,

13:01

no, I'm not. I just think I advocate

13:03

for myself. So, you know, I think

13:06

when I first met you, I

13:09

knew like just from

13:11

the legend you had built of your own

13:14

after season four of Drag Race,

13:17

you know? I was nervous

13:19

to meet you because I was like,

13:21

oh, she's gonna be so, I'm not

13:23

what she's about. She's, you

13:26

know, she's this Hollywood bomb, she's

13:29

a shell, she's sexy and fun

13:31

and a party girl. Our first gig we

13:34

did together, we really got along. Like

13:38

we, we just kind of, it was one of those

13:40

things where it was like, I think we recognized

13:43

right away, we were doing

13:45

things very, very differently, but

13:48

from the same place of passion of trying

13:51

to do it well. Yeah, I

13:53

think, and I liked that like, you

13:55

were like a theater fag too, because like

13:58

Hedwig is probably my favorite show.

14:00

other than like, you know,

14:04

Strange Loop or like Take

14:07

Me Out, like those are my three favorites and

14:09

like I knew you were like a theater girl and

14:13

You were really good at your job the song you sang

14:15

I was like she shouldn't be doing this song at a nightclub But

14:18

she's amazing at it. Like you were so

14:20

talented and I knew at that moment

14:22

I was like, I'm not gonna be able to beat her.

14:24

So let me just join her I

14:27

know my friend hates her and I know she's about to

14:29

win drag race the way because detox told me everything

14:32

She's like there's this redheaded girl named Jinx and

14:35

they pee for her. I was like,

14:37

I hate her and then I actually like

14:39

you because you're great but also,

14:42

I remember a conversation between us that

14:45

we talked about like how our drag was different because

14:47

you said and this is like A quote you said

14:50

you can just go out there and be an asshole

14:52

and people love that out of the

14:56

beat Hey,

14:59

you don't have to be you chose to be but be get

15:01

to be but you could be whoever you want And now like you

15:04

don't do like be affected like James

15:06

Mansfield voice anymore than me It's your normal

15:08

person and you were always enough and

15:10

the world was you know, you just

15:13

figure that out on your own now You know, yeah,

15:15

you know, it is it is very much like

15:17

that. Well, I think it's just over

15:20

the years I'm becoming

15:22

more and more myself in my day life

15:25

has like blurred the

15:27

line where I used to think there needed

15:29

to be a strong distinction

15:31

between My drag self

15:34

and my out of drag self now

15:37

I you know now it's all it's all

15:39

part of one big stew, right? Yeah

15:50

Picture this you're sitting at your

15:52

Thanksgiving dinner and you surprise

15:54

your family by starting an argument

15:56

I mean discussion in a new

15:59

language

15:59

Because with Babbel,

16:02

you start speaking a new language in just

16:04

three weeks. Ha! Babbel

16:07

makes it easy to go to new

16:09

places and talk a little

16:11

bit more like a local. You

16:13

know, you want to be able to order

16:15

food

16:15

and ask where the restroom

16:17

is and not out yourself as a complete

16:20

noob, right? Well, Babbel

16:23

makes that possible. Why Babbel?

16:25

Because it works! One study

16:28

found that using Babbel for 15

16:31

hours is equivalent

16:32

to a full semester

16:34

at college. Babbel's

16:36

wide range of learning experiences,

16:39

ranging from causal

16:41

to intense, means there's always

16:44

a way to fit in a Babbel session.

16:47

From self-study app lessons to

16:49

podcasts to live

16:51

classes. With over 10 million

16:53

subscriptions sold, Babbel is real

16:55

language

16:55

learning for real conversations.

16:59

Here's a special limited time deal

17:01

for my listeners to get

17:03

you started right now. Get 55%

17:06

off your Babbel subscription, but only

17:08

for our listeners at babbel.com.

17:13

Get 55% off at babbel.com. That's

17:22

babbel.com. Rules

17:26

and restrictions may apply. Babbel

17:28

offers 14 languages. Spanish,

17:31

French, German, Italian, Portuguese,

17:34

English, Russian, Dutch, Turkish,

17:37

Danish, Norwegian,

17:38

Swedish, Indonesian,

17:41

and English.

17:43

Listen everyone, I like to look nice,

17:45

but I also have work to do.

17:48

Things have to be fancy but functional.

17:51

So I ordered a stretch

17:54

satin washable blouse from

17:56

Quince and it accomplished everything

17:59

I just mentioned.

17:59

Quince creates

18:01

timeless classics that never go

18:03

out of style. You'll have them in your closet

18:06

forever. My stretch satin

18:08

blouse allows me to look

18:10

nice while

18:11

I can still do

18:13

my job.

18:14

Quince's capsule wardrobe must have like

18:16

cashmere sweaters, washable silk

18:18

tops and dresses, and flattering

18:21

pants make putting together any

18:23

outfit that much easier. The best

18:25

part, all Quince items are priced 50

18:28

to 80% less than

18:30

similar brands. By partnering

18:33

directly with top factories, Quince

18:35

cuts out the cost of the middle person

18:38

and passes the savings on to us.

18:40

And Quince only works with factories

18:42

that use safe, ethical and responsible

18:45

manufacturing practices

18:46

and premium fabrics and

18:48

finishes. I love that. Get

18:51

affordable luxury with Quince.

18:54

Go to quince.com

18:55

slash hijinks for free

18:57

shopping on your order and 365 day returns.

19:02

That's Q-U-I-N-C-E.com

19:05

slash H-I-J-I-N-K-X

19:08

to get free shipping and 365 day returns. quince.com

19:13

slash hijinks.

19:17

We're both appearing on Drag Me to

19:21

Dinner. We appear with our, our collaborators.

19:26

Who did you guys go against? Are we allowed to talk about it?

19:28

I don't know. I don't know. I'm not

19:30

gonna give any, I'm not gonna

19:33

spoil it. I'll text you

19:35

after. But it's, it's the, you know, it was

19:37

the perfect pairing. It

19:39

was like, I was really, really happy. We had

19:42

so much fun. Did you have fun your shoot day? What

19:45

are we talking about? Oh, Drag Me to Dinner. Drag Me

19:48

to Dinner, yeah. Yeah, we had so much fun. Yes,

19:52

I loved my shoot day. There were a couple

19:54

of things that I wasn't allowed to do that I wanted to

19:56

do that I was like, ugh. And I was so

19:58

mad and then I was like, don't let it. ruin your day. You look

20:00

so fucking good. Your drag daughter's

20:02

producing a TV show for drag queens

20:05

and she cares that much about drag. You

20:07

know, Neil and David, both of them are drag daughters.

20:09

And I'm so glad that like I get

20:11

to work with my friends because they always have these cool

20:13

ass projects. Remember we did wig stock together with

20:16

them? Yeah. Like I was just about to

20:18

bring that up. You've been friends with Neil

20:21

Patrick Harris and David Burkett

20:23

for a long time. You're

20:25

the reason I know them today. You

20:28

and John Cameron Mitchell. I dread you

20:30

do a party one, sit and I, after like a

20:32

holiday show. Yeah. I remember I wore

20:34

like a rose hat and like I looked

20:36

so good. We shut down their holiday

20:39

party one year. Yeah. That was

20:42

so fun. Yeah. They've been like

20:44

great. When my season of

20:46

Drag Race was airing, my friend Michael Serato who

20:48

directed my chow down video, he was a

20:50

ground Ling. She's a brilliant creative mind.

20:53

She sent me a

20:55

text message video of Neil

20:58

impersonating me and doing like my

21:01

cocky bitchy thing. Then fairly

21:03

accurate. And then

21:05

I was like, oh my God, is that Neil Patrick Harris?

21:07

And he was like, yeah, he's my friend. And I was like, oh my

21:10

God, tell him I said hi. And then

21:12

they asked us, me, Vicki and Dee

21:14

to do the Sanderson sisters at a Halloween

21:16

party for him. And they had legendary Halloween

21:19

parties, but we couldn't do it. But I ended

21:21

up putting Neil in drag with

21:24

detox and Calpurnia Adams for

21:26

the first time before he did Hedwig because he wanted to get

21:29

in drag like once with like people who actually did it.

21:31

Not like, you know, he didn't want it to

21:33

be under a makeup artist test situation. He wanted

21:35

his friends to do it. So we put him up in drag

21:37

and like after that, I like taught him about walking

21:40

and we had like walking lessons and like I

21:42

sent him videos on how to talk and all that and

21:44

gave him options for gas and tux and how stuff

21:47

works and how he hides his junk. I hope

21:49

you were careful when you were picking videos

21:52

out of your phone to send

21:54

them. Oh, no, they've seen them all. They don't

21:56

give a fuck.

21:59

Did I just gloss over the fact that you were

22:02

just saying Neil's hung?

22:03

Oh, yeah on the podcast

22:17

It's really cool to hear all the ways that Neil prepared

22:19

for Hedwig because like I said,

22:21

um, John brought him to see We

22:24

were doing the Vaudevillian's at the Laurie Beach men

22:26

and John Cameron Mitchell brought Steven

22:29

Trask and Neil To

22:33

see the Vaudevillian's and Neil asked me afterwards

22:36

So what do you do for eyebrows and

22:38

I said you just shave him off Neil I

22:41

wanted to see what he said and he was like really

22:43

you shaved him off and I'm like yet If you

22:45

want to be a real jack-queen you gotta shave him off and

22:48

he just kind of like well I don't think he

22:50

shaved him off. Did he? No But

22:54

the first time we painted her we were

22:56

like, what do you recommend and it was in

22:58

like a league of their own We're like a lot of night games

23:03

She don't fall far from my apple tree. Mama's a

23:05

brick like me she's got angles,

23:07

but I tell her smile and Just

23:10

do what the nice man says She's

23:13

a good drag daughter Willem you

23:16

have been in In

23:19

television TV

23:21

film and TV acting acting

23:24

for the camera Since

23:26

before I started drag I've I've

23:29

roasted you about this for years, but

23:31

when I Before

23:34

I even really knew what a drag

23:36

queen was I used

23:38

to stay up late and watch a show called street

23:41

smart This is like when I was like 11 or 12. Yeah So

23:45

it would have been a couple years before I started drag

23:47

may I've watched that show for a long time 10 11 12

23:50

Who knows I was like

23:53

a kid and you were

23:55

a full-grown adult and you

23:57

were on street- I'm 19 You

24:00

were on Street Smarts. In

24:03

full drag, we've talked about this, but you

24:06

were playing- You

24:11

were playing Kidman, Brouge, era.

24:14

Yeah. They asked you a

24:16

bunch of questions. Street Smarts was where

24:18

two contestants had

24:20

to try to guess whether people on

24:22

the street were going to get the answer right or wrong. Willem

24:27

was a wild card and she appeared on so

24:30

many episodes because she

24:32

gave good talking head. It

24:36

was so funny the things you knew and the

24:38

things you didn't know and people were always

24:40

like, they had to pick a

24:43

pony at the end, so they pick one person

24:45

to just try to predict

24:48

for the very end. Everyone

24:50

always picked you because you were such a wild card.

24:52

Yeah. Is that

24:54

your hand? Your head

24:57

hair blended up into a fall? Fully.

25:01

It's a couple of pieces, but yeah, that's a mall ponytail

25:03

for sure in the back. But that would

25:05

be out of it. Okay.

25:08

You've been doing TV for a long time.

25:12

What are your thoughts on your

25:15

film and television career? What

25:18

have you gotten to do that you're happy about?

25:21

Where are your feelings at these days

25:23

and what would you like to do next? I

25:27

feel like I've accomplished everything

25:29

that I wanted to accomplish

25:33

so far. It's

25:35

weird because it's calling it a career. It's like

25:37

for me, they're just jobs and gigs, but eventually

25:39

when they pile up, they become a career I guess.

25:42

But I feel like Starsborne,

25:44

that was

25:46

the easiest way for me to feel

25:48

good about myself because I was sitting

25:51

in a theater,

25:52

RuPaul was one row in front of me, two seats

25:54

over and everybody was just roaring

25:56

with laughter at these jokes that I made

25:59

in a rehearsal.

25:59

Bradley Cooper likes, so he kept him in

26:02

this movie. And it made me feel like I was a success,

26:04

and I made it in Hollywood, and now everything after that is

26:06

gravy. So be of service to other people,

26:09

and like, you know, elevator back down and all

26:11

that. Like, Star is Born, I made it, I'm happy. A

26:13

star is born, literally, I don't need all stars.

26:16

It gave me everything I needed ever in Hollywood,

26:18

because it was also like a mini challenge

26:20

on drag race. Like, you improv, and

26:22

you make sure, and then like,

26:25

the tits being like, dry erasable,

26:27

not knowing that a marker would like, not

26:29

like, we had to wash it off in between takes.

26:31

I didn't know if that would happen or not, and I'm so

26:34

glad they did, like the comedy gods smiled on

26:36

me. It was a perfect gig. I mean,

26:38

it was a hard gig, because first we auditioned,

26:41

and then they made me come back as a different character.

26:44

They made me do a dead Marilyn Monroe, and

26:46

then they made me do Barbara Streisand.

26:49

And then they gave us the part, and they said, you're

26:51

not Streisand, you're someone named Emerald. Said, okay,

26:53

can I get the script? They're like, no, you can't. You

26:55

will give me pages. And I was like, okay, the

26:58

night before I get the pages, it's like three,

27:00

four random lines. We get on set, Bradley Cooper's

27:02

immediately like, just act like he was in character,

27:05

or he's like, just act like you wouldn't in the club. And telling

27:07

me and Shangela, and we were like, okay, we

27:09

got this, because we know what we're doing, and we can run this.

27:11

And we did, and it was working with Shangela, who's

27:14

also a professional

27:17

girl, everything. She knew

27:19

what she was doing. It was the best. And

27:21

then they asked us to do the next day with the guitar

27:24

scene, once they saw that first scene. It

27:26

went so well, and

27:28

before

27:29

that all happened, after we auditioned

27:32

and got the part, we found

27:34

out that they cut the rolls, and Gaga

27:36

was just gonna be waiting, they were gonna cut the whole drag

27:39

bar scene. And then Gaga fought for it to

27:41

be back in. But for like, they called

27:43

me at Lance Black and Tom Daley's wedding,

27:46

the morning of, and they were like, the

27:49

text from my agent said, this guy

27:52

named Jesse, terrible, terrible

27:54

news. Your parts have been cut. And

27:56

I just remember it. And then I went downstairs,

27:58

and there was this producer. named Bruce

28:02

something. He produces the Oscars and lots

28:04

of stuff. But Bruce Spring.

28:07

No, I don't remember his last name, but

28:09

he's got blonde curly hair and he produced Silver

28:11

Linings Playbook, which we were talking about probably

28:14

the night before because I told him my book, Star is Born. And

28:16

he said, I remember saying,

28:19

your friend just fired me from my movie. It

28:22

wasn't my movie, but I felt like I already owned

28:24

it. And I was like, well, that's why you're being broad telling

28:26

people you book Star is Born. I

28:29

was in a car with Ari. I

28:33

don't know his last name either, the guy who does NPR. And

28:36

he was like telling the story about, he was

28:38

at a wedding and this kid was like going on

28:40

and on about how he's in a movie with Gaga. And

28:43

then he was like, sure, Willem, you're

28:45

in a movie with Gaga. He'd

28:47

set it on the radio. And I just remember thinking like,

28:49

yeah, asshole, I

28:51

am. Like it's a culmination of

28:54

everything I've ever done in a career and I

28:56

feel so good about it. And like, I

28:58

remember touring with you

29:01

when the movie came out in 2018 for Heels

29:03

the Hell. And I think a lot

29:05

of us went to go see the movie together at one

29:07

point and it was like all my sisters being happy for

29:09

me in a foreign country where we're being

29:11

paid to be to perform and make other people happy,

29:14

like and spread joy. And like, it was

29:16

just such a wonderful experience for me that

29:18

after like 20 years of auditions and

29:21

all the things that like, you know, you

29:23

give up as an artist to have a normal life. Like

29:26

all the times you're like, oh, I was gonna go home, but

29:28

I got a job so I can't like, you know, it

29:31

all felt worth it. So like, honestly,

29:33

I think that

29:35

Starsborne is my favorite gig ever. I don't know how to top

29:37

it.

29:38

But Niptuck was great too and

29:40

so was Rock of Ages, but for different

29:42

reasons, but Starsborne, you can't top it. Gaga,

29:45

like for to be in Gaga's orbit,

29:48

oh my God. I was also in Austin

29:50

Powers 3 as an extra behind Beyonce

29:52

and the whole membership. So I was in a complete

29:55

telephone orbit of both, but Beyonce didn't pay me

29:57

no mind. She was doing her job.

29:59

Gaga like, talk to me. She loves me. So she

30:01

shouted out my name during Edge of Glory

30:03

at a concert in Vegas on New Year's Eve and I was like, did

30:06

she just say my name or am I fucked up? And

30:08

August was like, she just said your name. And I was

30:10

like, oh my god. I was like, well yeah, I

30:12

went to my friend's show and she said hi. Like

30:15

Starzord has made my life better

30:17

in so many ways and they send me checks every year

30:19

because the residuals are great. That movie's a fucking

30:21

hit.

30:22

You know? Yeah.

30:24

It was, you know, I... It's great. I

30:26

watched it on the plane so much. It was a very

30:28

good movie. I don't watch

30:31

a lot of new movies, but of course I

30:34

watched it to see all my girls

30:37

in it and it was

30:40

a very... It was a powerful movie. My

30:42

only joke that I make about

30:44

it is I don't feel... When

30:47

you said, could I get the script? I

30:49

wanted to interject and say no, because there isn't one.

30:53

Doesn't the movie feel like it's kind

30:55

of like... They were

30:57

like, okay, I don't know. In this scene we should

31:00

say something like this. How about me? I

31:02

can't... I do know that a lot of it

31:04

was improv, but there were a lot of actors

31:07

in Improvers who were like in their own professions,

31:09

like the hair, the wardrobe

31:11

people. I'm pretty sure his ear doctor

31:13

played his actual ear doctor, Bradley, because

31:16

he's dealt with that. I

31:18

really liked it because when

31:20

you take a movie like A Star Is Born that's been

31:23

remade multiple times

31:26

and you want to make it its own unique

31:29

thing, that's how

31:31

they did it with this one, was rather

31:33

than it being scripted and stylized

31:35

like it's always been in the past, it was kind of more

31:37

like, what if A Star Was

31:39

Born today? What would

31:41

that look like? Angela Laquifa-Wadley. So,

31:45

I

31:46

just...

31:47

Yeah, really great work, Willem, but what you were

31:49

saying about everything else just being

31:52

gravy and also kind of like, you

31:54

know, now you're at this place where you just

31:56

want to like kind of give it

31:58

back.

31:59

to say like when you set

32:02

a goal and you attain that goal,

32:04

you know, if you're a decent human

32:06

being, it feels really good to then

32:08

turn around and go, okay, now how am I going

32:11

to help other people get here? Because

32:13

I just had that moment with Broadway

32:16

and someone asked me, you know, like,

32:19

what do you want to do now that you've done Broadway?

32:22

I'm like, I just more, more Broadway,

32:24

more of what I'm doing. What do you want to do now that

32:26

you've done Doctor Who? I'm like, more,

32:28

this is where I want

32:29

to be. And that

32:31

feeling of being exactly where

32:33

you feel like you've been trying to

32:35

get to the whole time, it generates,

32:38

this is why you hear

32:40

the top stars when someone says, oh,

32:42

I met this person or this person or this person.

32:45

And you're like, who, how, what they were, what were they like?

32:48

Nine times out of 10 you hear, oh, they're

32:50

just the greatest person. They were nice. They

32:52

were friendly. Or you might hear, well,

32:54

they were doing their job. But you know, like you could tell

32:56

they were because

32:58

they're content. That's my thought. They're

33:00

content. You know, like

33:06

contentness, contentment

33:08

has like

33:10

made me a 10 times better person

33:12

just because I'm not cranky anymore.

33:15

And all I want to do is help other

33:17

people feel content because that's, you

33:20

know, it's not about happiness.

33:23

Happiness is fleeting. It's about contentness.

33:25

Yeah. And contentment. Also

33:28

to go back to Starsborne a little more. I know

33:30

you would look for it in that alley wig, bitch.

33:34

We would look that red one.

33:37

Oh, sure. When she was read. Yeah, yeah.

33:39

In the original script, he doesn't die

33:42

by hanging. He rides his

33:44

motorcycle off a cliff on

33:46

the way to the Grammys. So when that happened

33:48

in the movie, I was just like gut punched crying,

33:51

like almost wrecking my makeup. And then

33:54

the producer told me afterwards, she's like, you know, your,

33:56

your drag scene is one of the reasons that the movie

33:58

works so well. It like.

33:59

endears people to him early and

34:02

makes him like

34:03

a good guy. And I was like, wow,

34:05

thank you. A producer of this Oscar winning

34:07

fucking movie said that to me and I was like, thank

34:09

you so much. She was so nice. I loved

34:11

everybody on that movie. But also I

34:13

auditioned for a movie musical about a girl named Ally

34:16

in 2011 when I was

34:18

going out for burlesque. I was like,

34:20

I didn't get that. And I was so sad. It was,

34:23

I got my prayer answered. I did a movie

34:25

musical about a girl named Ally. It

34:28

was 10 years later, you know, I

34:30

had to like do some trench work. And now

34:32

I'm going to New York where hopefully

34:34

ride your fucking wave that you created because

34:37

to have the top ticket sales of

34:39

a 26 year long running

34:42

show because you're

34:44

in it, because you spiked the sales

34:46

bitch, that should feel good. You're a fucking

34:49

star. Oh yeah, I feel very good.

34:51

What I wanna ask you is, what would be

34:54

this summer? I know. We're

34:57

getting to it. We're getting to it. What

34:59

I wanna ask you is, like you said about that 10 years

35:01

later remark, which is something

35:03

I brought up a lot recently. What

35:06

would you say to young actors, artists, and

35:10

entertainers about patience in the industry? Because

35:14

like I said, you've been working for years

35:16

and years and years and years. And

35:19

you're still working for a lot of people. Years and years

35:21

and years and years. And you're saying

35:24

Stars Born is where you felt like, okay,

35:26

I got everything I wanted out of this career

35:28

and now I'm like content and happy to

35:30

like, now you're running your own

35:33

podcast empire with friends. Like

35:35

you said, you're creating work. How,

35:38

how did you make it? How did

35:40

you survive getting to a Stars

35:43

Born since that did take so many years?

35:45

And what would your advice be to people about

35:48

patience along the way? First

35:51

of all, we're closed. Hollywood's closed. We don't need anybody

35:53

else. Thank you right now. But we can let you know. We'll

35:56

keep this on file, your interest. I

35:58

would say, I got my sash. card when I was 17 and

36:01

that was 22 years ago? No 23 years ago. So in the

36:04

past 23 years

36:07

that I've been just trying to like make

36:10

art and eat and make

36:12

some money, I got

36:14

SARS-borne in 2017 and then premiere in 2018.

36:17

That was 15 years into, you

36:18

know,

36:23

after my SAG card.

36:26

I think that I gave myself goals

36:28

and I figured out ways that I could try to be

36:30

proactive to meet them. I would do one

36:33

thing a day for my career whether it was this was back

36:35

in the day when you had to mail out pictures to

36:37

casting agencies. I would do I would

36:39

go on backstage and find something I was right for or

36:42

I would call all the extras hotlines that like

36:44

Sandy Elisey was a casting

36:46

director who did like a specific

36:49

background casting for like good shows and

36:52

one of them was Nip Tuck and I met

36:54

Ryan Murphy on set reading a book about Janice

36:56

Dickinson like trying to learn stuff and mind

36:58

my business being quiet on set because I was in a scene

37:00

with like a couple of Plasti-Tasha

37:02

Smith who's like this wonderful actress and

37:06

both of the doctors

37:08

and I was trying to just take it all

37:10

in and I knew that I was picture picked by the

37:12

director and the director was Ryan Murphy and

37:15

then he came over and talked to me and he said what

37:17

book you read I was like it's about Janice Dickinson and plastic

37:19

surgery I'm obsessed. He's like oh okay

37:21

cool and then I had auditioned for

37:23

two other parts on Nip Tuck before

37:25

so he might he might have known

37:28

me and the

37:30

next

37:31

episode that was the end of season two

37:33

episode two point like 13

37:36

episode three point two of the

37:38

next season there was a character I was perfect

37:40

for and I tried to get in for

37:42

it and my agent was like

37:44

no they think you look too old so I walked

37:47

two blocks from where I lived at the casting studio

37:49

Alric Dawson-Kritzer and as I walked into

37:51

the into the casting place my friend

37:54

Stephen walked by and I was like hey Stephen he's like hey

37:56

what are you doing here I was like well there's this breakdown

37:58

for Nip Tuck and my My agent said,

38:00

someone said I look too old. So

38:03

I just wanted to, he's like, hold on, let me get

38:06

Rich Ulrich. He's gonna pop his

38:08

head out. He was a you in UDK. He

38:10

pops his head out, looks, and he's like, yeah, give him an appointment. So

38:13

I got an appointment on a Wednesday, and

38:15

then I went for the call back on Friday, and I

38:17

gave them something to hire me for. I was fucking

38:19

great at that roll of cherry, and

38:21

I killed it in the room, and

38:24

I threw myself all over. I had a costume

38:26

change. I went from the bar scene to the bedroom

38:29

scene, and I had a little thing I unbuttoned,

38:31

and it came off, and boom, leopard slip. I

38:33

gave them bedroom instant. I got on the table.

38:36

I threw myself on a chair when I was getting beat up.

38:39

People stood up to see if I was okay. And

38:41

then after that episode, they wrote

38:44

three more episodes for me to participate in, because

38:46

I was a one-episode character. So feeling

38:48

and knowing that you do a good job sometimes, just

38:51

cherish it, and know that, oh, wow,

38:53

this is exactly why I'm doing this. Because when you're on set,

38:55

it feels so great, and the patience

38:58

that you have, all these jobs that you go on,

39:00

and all the mileage, and all the everything, will

39:03

eventually be worth it,

39:05

if you're good.

39:07

You should definitely have some friends who will

39:09

tell you, like, have an arrangement with

39:11

them where you're like, hey, if by this time you

39:13

think I need to pack it up, let me know. I

39:17

think, you know, like, what you described

39:20

is knowing what you're good at,

39:23

putting in the work, and putting in the,

39:26

like, you know, you

39:28

put in the mileage, and

39:31

yes, you have

39:33

to be self-aware. But like,

39:35

here's the thing about being self-aware, is you can

39:38

be, maybe you're not, like,

39:40

maybe you're not as strong an actor,

39:43

but you're a great writer. You know, like,

39:45

there's ways to work in the field,

39:49

even if like, one thing isn't

39:51

the best, like, avenue for

39:53

you. I think, you know, like,

39:57

I was so worried in acting school

39:59

at this idea. of getting pigeonholed or

40:01

typecasted or only being seen as

40:03

a character actor. Do you know what

40:06

being pigeonholed and typecasted being

40:08

seen as a character actor is? It's job

40:11

security, exactly. Yeah,

40:13

bitch. Yeah, bitch. Because

40:16

you might not get called for every single thing, but

40:20

you oftentimes get called for

40:22

the thing you're perfect for because you've

40:24

really asserted what you're perfect for. Ha

40:27

ha ha ha.

40:38

Willem, so

40:41

you've you've. Where are you, Mitch? Are you

40:43

in LA and haven't called me? I'm in

40:45

Santa Monica. I leave tonight

40:48

for Australia. Oh,

40:50

so boogie. I was working

40:52

with all therapy. Willem. I

40:54

was on Dr. Who and then I went to Australia.

40:57

Oh, yoyoyoyoyoy. Well,

41:00

now you've shaken my train of thought. Oh,

41:02

my friend's so famous. You put

41:05

out a book, Suck Less.

41:09

You co-run

41:12

a podcast empire. You're

41:16

constantly doing TV, Stars Born.

41:20

You're a mainstay at what?

41:22

The commencement message. Burning

41:25

man. I

41:28

want to know what would you

41:31

like dream of doing next, even

41:34

though it's all gravy? What would

41:36

be a fun next project? And

41:39

what's one thing you're happy you

41:41

don't have to do anymore to survive?

41:45

These two parters, bitch. First of all, I would

41:48

like some gravy. And I think you should use it to

41:50

pop in our sponsor. Get

41:52

out of here. Yes,

41:55

that's what I would like for my immediate future.

41:57

And then secondly, what's one thing I don't have to do

41:59

more than I'm glad about.

42:03

I just said the other day that I miss Hookin,

42:05

because like, you know, I knew I could make

42:08

money really quick. I was really good at

42:10

it. Everybody left happy. I

42:13

could, I could, I was like the queen

42:15

of the four minute blowjob. I was the

42:17

girl. Well, I was a boy. I didn't,

42:20

I didn't wear wigs when I did it, but I

42:22

was the person. That's just

42:24

for your personal time. Yeah, girl.

42:27

They didn't pay for that. But

42:29

I was the person that, what was I talking

42:31

about?

42:36

Blowjobs, four minute blowjob.

42:38

I was the one that guy would

42:40

say, Oh, I can't get off from head. I'd be like, watch this.

42:43

Watch. And

42:46

always, and that's why I like when

42:48

I was hooking, I know I had some, I'm right in my second

42:50

book right now and I added up the numbers

42:52

and did my body count and like my, during

42:55

my hooking days, I did 160 something dates with 104

42:57

of the same people. So

43:01

there were a lot of regulars and it was because

43:04

I suck such good dick. And

43:07

I'm proud of that. And like, that's what got me to

43:09

Hollywood. That's how I made my money. Because like when

43:11

I was a kid growing up, I was fascinated

43:13

by redheaded hookers, fancy from

43:16

the read the song, Julia Roberts

43:18

and pretty woman. The little

43:20

girl from Teen Witch who didn't sell pussy,

43:22

but she did have that pretty amulet in the short lady. So

43:27

like, I want to be the

43:29

most popular girl.

43:31

That's the Teen Witch. And I used to sing it to myself while I

43:33

sucked dick. To top that. To top

43:36

that. I don't really give a about

43:38

to top that. To top that.

43:40

I loved her. Super

43:42

sonic idiotic. What else do you guys want to say? That

43:46

movie was everything. I

43:48

can't believe she was Blake Lively's sister too. I

43:52

love her, Robin Lively. She's great. I

43:55

got to work with her. I got to work with Teen Witch on something. So that was

43:57

like a full circle for me. Because when I worked with Robin,

43:59

I was like. Robin, you were the first time

44:01

I saw a sex scene in front of my parents and I remember

44:04

having a boner and being like, this is weird,

44:06

but I was looking at the boy, not you, Robin. She's

44:09

nice. She's a nice lady. She's a nice

44:11

lady. Yeah. In that movie, she

44:13

got sucked in like a barn and like the sun was

44:16

coming through the hay. No, I only saw Teen

44:18

Witch. No, that was Teen Witch, girl. She

44:20

got fucked in the barn in Teen Witch? She

44:22

lost her virginity to the hospital draw. Oh, it was heavily implied. Oh,

44:24

that's right. The random like,

44:27

yeah, the smooth jazz scene in

44:29

the middle of the movie. Huh? Softly. What

44:34

I want to know about Teen Witch is why

44:37

does her magic get stored in

44:39

an amulet that never runs

44:41

out? But Zelda Rubenstein's magic

44:43

is like dust that she runs

44:45

out of. She has finite amount of magic.

44:48

She has to use the last of her power

44:50

to give this teen

44:54

her chance to, what,

44:56

pop her cherry in the barn. And

44:58

then she gets that denim jacket from that one pop star.

45:00

She's like, I want you to have this jacket. I

45:05

love Teen Witch. You should do the musical Teen Witch.

45:09

You should play Zelda on your knees. Okay.

45:12

Listen, we got to close out by

45:14

talking about Death Drop.

45:18

I didn't get to see you in Death Drop, but I did

45:20

see Death Drop on the West End

45:22

in the UK. It's a

45:25

really great show written by Holly Stars.

45:27

I love, you know, I

45:29

love stuff for queens

45:32

by queens. Yeah. And

45:34

you are going to be debuting

45:37

it in New York. What? That is funny.

45:40

When? Today? Tomorrow? It's

45:42

start. I think preview start in

45:45

the middle of June. We officially open on my

45:47

41st birthday, June 30th. I

45:49

expect cards. I like pineapples,

45:52

not flowers. And

45:54

it's you and Jujube, our

45:57

American representatives in this. Yes,

46:00

me, Jujubee. There's a couple of

46:02

castings that they're saving because they're

46:05

surprising. Sure, sure, sure. They're

46:07

really good. But

46:09

we are gonna be open

46:11

all summer. Deathdropplay.com, come see us. It's

46:13

gonna be great. Holly wrote it. It's so funny.

46:16

There's drag kings, there's drag queens. There's

46:18

other girls from Drag Me To Dinner. Kiki Ball

46:21

Change is the swing. And

46:24

she does, she covers everything, I think. Who else

46:26

is in it? A couple people are in it. I'm

46:30

so excited for it. It's like, to

46:32

have a job in New York. I

46:34

remember I had a little folder that I

46:36

would carry in junior high, and

46:38

I had cut a picture of Bebe Neuwirth

46:41

out in Chicago when she's looking up

46:43

at her hand like that. It was in the

46:45

Time Entertainment issue in

46:48

the 90s, and

46:50

I remember thinking, I'm gonna go to New York and see this show. And

46:52

then I did. And I saw The Life,

46:55

Chicago, and then I think Charlie

46:57

Brown, or maybe Rent, at the same time,

47:00

on the same trip to New York when I was 15,

47:02

and I visited my lesbian aunt there. I

47:04

just went to see shows in the summer, and it was great.

47:07

And I was like, I wanna do this. I wanna be a job

47:09

in New York. And then I fantasized, oh, I'll

47:12

be a Fosse dancer. But bitch, I don't get on

47:14

the floor that much. I

47:16

don't need to be on the floor. My shit's too expensive. I'll

47:18

sing. So I get to do theater

47:20

in New York, which is my dream growing up. I find that

47:23

ironic. I know, right? You

47:25

didn't wanna be on the floor that much. Willow,

47:29

I have some compulsory questions that

47:31

I ask every guest. Even

47:34

as my boss, you have to answer them. But you

47:36

answer them however you feel. But before I ask

47:38

those questions, is this a Wigs

47:40

by Vanity? What is this wig? Is this all

47:42

one piece? I need this wig

47:45

in my color because I love the shape.

47:47

Oh, it's an updo, okay. This is an updo that

47:50

Cynthia Loomsey colored

47:52

for me in Chicago. She's this great colorist that I love. I love

47:54

it. And then I wore it

47:56

on set today. Oh, and it goes down to probably

47:59

well. down the heater. Did you pin it up yourself?

48:02

No, what I did was before I put it

48:04

on, I grabbed a

48:06

ponytail and then actually I was on a shoot and

48:09

Aurora saw what I was doing and she's like here let

48:11

me do it because she was

48:13

helping with everything. She's an art director,

48:15

she's brilliant. So we put

48:18

it in a ponytail and then because

48:20

she had just put up this pink hair that

48:23

I was wearing like five minutes before and like this

48:25

lazy updo and it looks so good. So I'm

48:27

like let's do that with this but we'll ponytail it in

48:29

and then she just sprayed it forward and Zach

48:32

Killian styled it and this is the last one. I love

48:34

Zach Killian. He's everything, he's

48:36

fucking everything and it's like

48:39

I, he's busy. She's

48:41

booked and her wigs are great

48:44

and they stay curled for you. This glass

48:46

got curled and I wore this in Death

48:48

Drop in London. It hasn't been redone since

48:51

and it was still fine. It's real good, you look

48:53

real good. I was hoping it was a style I could buy somewhere

48:55

because that's, I love a

49:03

big messy updo. That's

49:05

one of my favorites. You

49:11

could totally pull this off. Alright,

49:15

before, oh one last thing. We have

49:17

to congratulate you and Alaska

49:21

and everyone at the Mughals of Media

49:23

Network. Drag is

49:25

good. You did it in Nashville, Tennessee

49:28

where they of course are dealing with blatantly

49:30

bigoted anti-trans, anti-queer

49:33

legislation. You raised $78,500

49:40

to give to multiple charities to

49:43

fight back on the legal

49:46

battlefield, which

49:48

is the only way we can fight back at this

49:50

point. It sucks

49:53

but thank you for your service.

49:56

Thank you for what's the

49:59

good shorthand for giving it back.

50:02

Spreading it around.

50:04

This people's got it and this

50:07

people's spread it around. Isn't

50:11

it nice? Yeah,

50:14

I think I've

50:16

been inspired by people I see who

50:19

are extremely generous. And there's

50:21

a woman named Ari Getty who,

50:24

you know, the

50:25

LA LGBT Center

50:27

and GLAAD really benefit from her

50:29

philanthropy and her gifts. And

50:31

I think those that are

50:34

given a lot, a lot is expected

50:36

of. So I like that I

50:38

can help where I can and when I can, especially

50:41

by cross-dressing. And

50:43

it felt really good to do that

50:45

because those are places we work. And how

50:48

dare they come for our friends' jobs down there

50:50

and trans people, honestly. Because

50:52

we all saw what they were doing. We saw that they were saying, oh,

50:55

well, you're in drag, so this is illegal. We

50:57

know what they're trying to do. Same thing that the Nazis

50:59

tried to do. They burnt the sex

51:02

institute first. We need to

51:05

protect our trans sisters. If

51:08

anyone doesn't think that this affects

51:10

you, if you are someone who

51:12

thinks that because it's a queer issue, because

51:14

it's a trans issue, that it doesn't affect you, like

51:18

give it 10 minutes, honey. Because once

51:20

they successfully

51:23

remove rights for one group

51:25

of people, they come for the next. They did it to

51:27

women with Roe v. Wade. They're doing it with

51:30

queer freedoms. And there

51:32

are places already talking about trying

51:34

to ban porn in their state.

51:37

And that's going to affect everyone,

51:39

not just queer people. So if you

51:41

think like they start with the

51:44

sexuality, and once they control the

51:46

way you think about sex, they can control

51:48

the way you think about other things. And

51:50

sex is just an easy place

51:52

to start because it has been demonized

51:55

and made sinful by the church

51:58

since you've been in my home.

52:11

You answer however you feel.

52:14

First question is, who's your celebrity

52:16

crush today? My celebrity

52:18

crush is and always

52:21

is

52:25

Jonathan Majors. Jonathan Majors?

52:26

I don't know who that is.

52:28

He was the antagonist

52:31

in the Ant-Man Quantum that

52:33

just came out. He was in,

52:35

what's that song? So now

52:37

Paul Rudd. No, he

52:40

was in Lovecraft

52:42

Country. He was the lead in Lovecraft Country.

52:45

Oh yes. He was in Creed.

52:47

I love Lovecraft Country. He's

52:50

brilliant. Yes, okay, yes. Thank you.

52:53

I'm so terrible with names. Oh

52:55

my gosh, mine today is, I'm sure I've said him

52:57

before. Oh wait, I would congratulate you for your telephon

53:00

work too, by the way bitch. I saw you

53:02

there with that gorgeous red hair, not a lip

53:04

on his baby. You look thick-nailed.

53:07

That was new hair. I liked her. It wasn't

53:09

though. It wasn't though. I just kind of turned the

53:11

whip around. Yeah, no. Who's

53:14

your friend? My

53:16

celeb, I'm sure I've said him before but I'm saying

53:18

him again because it's the mood I'm in. Blake

53:21

Griffin. Oh my god, yes.

53:24

You know I love a tall guy with

53:26

big feet, Willam. And funny,

53:29

I know you love a footbitch. He is so funny. He

53:31

did these car commercials and he really

53:34

has a great sense of humor. I follow his Twitter. I

53:36

really respect his intellect

53:38

and I want to suck his dick. Yeah. Blake

53:42

Griffin, if you're listening, if you want a

53:44

four-minute blowjob. Hello. Hello.

53:49

My next question for you is, are

53:51

you spiritual? I

53:56

talk to God whenever I need things really bad.

54:00

I like their music sometimes but like I talked to

54:02

the universe and I believe in like something

54:05

out there that like I I

54:07

Can like

54:08

talk to I think yeah. Yeah,

54:11

but I don't know what it is And if it's God, it's a woman

54:13

because women create everything. So I

54:15

respect her as a woman I'm

54:17

sure she is real, but if she's not I don't

54:19

know Wait, no, I'm

54:22

not sure she is real But if she is I don't want to offend

54:24

her but like so that's why I'll never say I don't believe

54:26

in her But

54:27

like,

54:28

you know, I Hear you.

54:30

I am the pot I am

54:35

You know, it's like we can I've

54:38

realized that we change our minds

54:41

I mean not change your minds, but we develop

54:43

our thoughts Throughout life

54:45

and so I've always talked to and believed

54:48

in God. I call it something

54:50

different now I see it as something different

54:53

than how I was raised To

54:55

believe it was meant, you know,

54:57

like how it has to be but

55:00

you know, like I just Thoroughly

55:03

encourage everyone to name everything

55:05

your own name for it You know, you don't

55:07

have to call that spirit

55:10

that that that thing in the universe you were

55:12

talking about You don't have to call it God or you can

55:14

call it God and know you're talking about something

55:16

different than what's from the Bible Everyone

55:20

name your own shit God

55:24

I think of Madonna at the beginning of like a prayer going

55:27

God God God God My

55:38

final question for you is what's your go to

55:40

karaoke song my go.

55:42

Oh, I have a list. I'm sorry Go

55:45

to go to is probably Probably

55:53

Shit this

55:54

is hard.

55:55

I really like the boy is mine.

55:57

I

55:58

also

55:59

also do fancy a lot,

56:03

the Reba song.

56:04

And then depending on- It sounds like, did fancy

56:07

shape you as a human being? It really

56:09

feels like that song shaped

56:12

you as a human being. Honestly, I knew by

56:14

the age of eight that I wanted to be a hooker.

56:16

I was like, I wanna go to Hollywood and do what this

56:18

girl is doing, who gets the blonde wig and then

56:21

the red wig. What could that

56:23

be better? And she changes outfits all the time. I

56:25

love this. And then you know where my studio

56:27

is? It's a block from where they filmed

56:29

that location with her in that hotel. Like

56:32

my life actually, my dreams came

56:34

true, honestly. I mean,

56:37

we've seen every drag queen

56:39

in the world take

56:41

off that upper lip and do that song

56:43

at your local bar. But

56:46

there's a reason. And I've

56:49

always theorized that we

56:51

as queer people identify

56:53

with female tragedy. I

56:57

wanted the red dress with the foot and thigh cleaned up in my

56:59

head, it's funny.

57:00

But you know what is in that

57:02

song

57:02

is there's that sense of tragedy,

57:05

but then there's also that sense of triumph

57:08

and then

57:08

rising above it. And like,

57:11

oh my God, of course, dive bar drag queens,

57:12

we're

57:16

all dreaming of like our Moulin

57:18

Rouge moment, our pretty woman moment

57:21

of like, we kind of romanticize the idea

57:23

of slumming it until we like

57:25

hit that big

57:27

moment, get that stride, you know? And

57:30

I think drag queens, we're just always going to

57:32

identify with the underdog hooker.

57:35

Willem, thank you so much for joining me

57:37

today. And thank you for giving me the

57:39

job in which you joined me

57:41

today. Of course. Do

57:44

you want me to read your ads with you? You want

57:46

me to jerk off the simp bird? I

57:48

already did the ad while I was waiting for you to jerk

57:51

off the simp bird. Do

57:54

you have anything else we've talked about so much,

57:56

Shikai? Anything else you want our

57:58

listeners to, I say, our... listeners

58:01

because they are they are yeah you got

58:03

it anything you got a plug I

58:05

want to plug

58:08

all the mom shows I like them all I

58:10

have the list we talked about I'm gonna hit

58:12

him again I'm gonna hit him again here we go here

58:15

we go we got let's wait let's see

58:17

if I can do it yeah yeah all in closet

58:20

yeah with Jada and Heidi

58:23

famous this week with Priyanka and Brooklyn

58:25

yeah the chop with Manila and Latrice

58:28

yeah jinx with jinx monsoon

58:31

uh-huh there's also meatball in Big Dipper on sloppy

58:33

seconds Alaska and Willem

58:37

there's I know there's more oh oh oh oh

58:40

we had Shay doing like a top model podcast

58:42

the children yeah we've had a

58:44

lot of girls

58:45

pretty girls

58:47

and

58:51

you know I think I think there's

58:54

just some we've talked about it for years

58:56

but there's lots to be said about

58:59

artists creating their own

59:01

work artists creating work for other artists

59:04

and artists being the producers of

59:06

all said stuff because

59:10

there's a lot of you know you

59:12

know there's a lot of people out there

59:15

who don't have art

59:17

as the as the the

59:19

show is not their bottom what

59:23

artistic integrity of the show is not

59:26

what they're concerned with let's say

59:28

I had to build my own new bridge because I burned all

59:30

the other ones but honestly I'm happy

59:33

out here doing my thing I

59:35

get to work with people who treat people

59:38

how I like which is why I work for myself yeah

59:42

which you know I work my boss is

59:44

an asshole but I'm self-employed

59:46

so I chose that so I put a very famous

59:48

asshole yeah but she makes me get in drag

59:51

all the time she's like put a wig on

59:53

and then I have to hit her and I'm like bitch you better put a wig

59:55

on you get to put a wig on and that's what

59:57

I do in the mirror and I'm like put your wig on bitch Put

1:00:00

your makeup on. But every once in a while you

1:00:02

get to rebel by wearing handlebar mustaches

1:00:05

or one of those horrifying baby masks

1:00:07

that you insist on. That's

1:00:09

what I was going to say about like all

1:00:12

the things that you were saying about like the terrible

1:00:14

Republicans and like the things that are happening.

1:00:17

I was like, there's drag queens with mustaches out

1:00:19

there. Girl, like

1:00:22

it's end of days or we better turn it

1:00:24

around, honey. This all drag

1:00:26

is valid bullshit. The ugly girl is feeling

1:00:28

powered. Oh, she's like, I'm not shaving

1:00:31

no more. Throw my razor out.

1:00:32

I loved it. I loved it. And

1:00:35

I, I,

1:00:36

I encourage you to find more

1:00:38

ways to explore your

1:00:41

hidden avenues of your drag and your ginger.

1:00:43

Yeah, I'm going to deal with my pubes next

1:00:46

bitch. I love you. I hope

1:00:48

I didn't make you late for your flight. I'm sorry. You did

1:00:50

it. I love you so much, Willem. Thank you so much

1:00:52

for being my boss. Thank you for

1:00:54

being a friend. Thank you for

1:00:58

joining. Thank you for joining

1:01:00

me here today on Hi Jinx. Travel

1:01:02

down Hi Jinx and back again. I

1:01:05

love you. Thank you all so much for listening

1:01:08

to Hi Jinx here on the Forever

1:01:10

Dog and Mughals of Media Network.

1:01:13

My name is Jinx Monsoon and we have new episodes

1:01:15

every Wednesday. So make sure to search for Hi Jinx

1:01:18

on your favorite podcast app and hit

1:01:21

subscribe. You can follow me at the

1:01:23

Jinx on Instagram and at Jinx Monsoon

1:01:25

everywhere else. And I'll see you next

1:01:28

Wednesday. You won't see him bitch. And

1:01:32

I'll see you next Wednesday for

1:01:34

some more. Hi Jinx. I'm putting

1:01:36

this in your quarterly review. You were sloshed. I

1:01:38

see you bitch. M. Oh. M.

1:01:40

Mom.

1:01:46

If

1:01:51

you listen to Hi Jinx one

1:01:53

day early and ad free sign

1:01:56

up for mom plus at mompodcast.plus.

1:01:59

Hi, Jinx is produced

1:02:02

by Moguls Media, aka Moll,

1:02:05

hosted by me, Jinx Monsoon, and produced by

1:02:08

Joseph Shepherd.

1:02:09

Editing and sound design by Will

1:02:12

Pitt. Executive produced by

1:02:14

Willem Belli, Alaska Thunderfuck,

1:02:16

Big Dipper, and

1:02:18

Joe Sillio.