Seamus is joined by Jeremy "Junglist" Ray and Steve Farrelly from AusGamers to discuss this week's ABC Four Corners episode on manipulative techniques used in videogames, especially around predatory monetisation practices. We discuss our thoughts on the episode, what it got right, what it got wrong, where the nuance lies, and what we wish we saw more of in debates over the real issues that are attached to our beloved videogaming hobby.

We're also joined via Twitter Spaces by Woody Wu from META High School Esports for some added comments and discussion.

It's not lost on us that this episode is longer than the episode of Four Corners, too...

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