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let
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me say you of the rogue bro
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we i was telling i told
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donnie my producer them you were having your they donny,
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jump on why are you s a big
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why do such a big fan of bliss seventies
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face face ,
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how you guys is is is is honor the
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burial kojo i thought it on
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if they're of coach and a while ago and with
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amazing for yeah i'm
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disappointed with amazing
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let me say something also it before you
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are you day i
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saw i saw before you list on is
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bliss right now signed it remains of
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tomboy
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thank you thank you how the first
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sale he gets so excited when his friends
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come on and as any those doesn't even
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do the right thing and hundred overhaul nice
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to meet me so happy to have your life
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there for the pleasure so
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i know this man he was gone by bliss the
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ambassador
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so this is my first question i
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know that you we talked with we talk to
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your first of all digital that's
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the we have on her alerted right
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then i say this with absolutely zero
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hyperbole
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caught a total before
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these would be a central figure in
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defining
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the next
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couple of decades of so i promise
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i said that's true
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i promise you that it's
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true or phrase hot
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phrase it but it's real praise real praise out
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the director of the barrel of
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closure the director of the color
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the upcoming color purple musicals
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aid and days i
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knew him when i interviewed him years ago as
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blitz the ambassador what
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made you change how people
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are referring to you now
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well it is
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well let's see a massive first of all
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was was my music my
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rabbit
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the atheist or the i did music
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for
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that in ten years and it
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over those of you who no no
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i mean now we know how for beaches a big phase
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nice but but you know when when i
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started nixon
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what public enemy was to me and will
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feel i could see was the main people
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had no idea what it was you know they
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are these two worlds that we're just gonna
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come in to gather at a very interesting time
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that i remember like distinctively
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the world cup and twenty ten that
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was like a real defining moment
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anytime gonna win a game where tsp
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it'll play my song or get a nice said it
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was i afraid i'll have a walk up
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and then my remember way the flag
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big record so those is plus
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and you know my real when i first
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got into this culture of a wax
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was about really try and explain and
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explore the advances
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of blackest man in his ass and we
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know black this is vast and source
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of my jonjo i i i saw myself
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as a but ambassador that you know i mean and i
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was it was really how i came
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in at it into the music business but
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over time decide at wait a second
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you know your your last name
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matters you know your last they madison
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my name is a very distinctive name indiana
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it's not like a ,
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name that everybody knows my family's must
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very tiny village northernmost part
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of gonna have any i've been a gotta know
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how now have a firm on s
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at a problem we have been at the six gotta get
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up and after the has
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because you were love period
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besides i realized or near saw it
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as i know everybody's got
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and like this and like everybody
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saw to get us to com the gotta we might
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have to make this and i will be there so
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please vote you know that it yes
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i will i will be home but up with you
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know i again for me it it you know my
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family's will read tiny village in the upper
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west you know my tribe is very
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small and said that name
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important it's important that those
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people see that and recognize that and
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so i changed my last next nine months
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i want to piggyback on that
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the new york times had a really
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great article profile on
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you case ah
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than some of the things that you talked about has
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unearthed i guess the fire conversations about
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my black is better than your black and house
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sometimes were very divided in
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edo american and canadian
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from canadian island africa us when
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we should all comes together and
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you said something
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the that i'd love for you to talk more about
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you said
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the different help you doable site
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is incalculable how much the world loses
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every day by intentionally excluding
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africa whether it's in the creative
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endeavors or the sciences which is
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sad because it's the world's
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loss which is so true
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he the taco a little bit more about that and
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hugging implement that feeling that thought
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that creativity your were
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absolutely i mean at the way
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i looked at it in
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august do the math for second you know the
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current news about one point three billion it
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as a significant south of his played
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i will be at the dashboard they
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were pushed me to build shelters
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only seven billion people on this planet
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we're close to one third eat enemy
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give or take pride of this of
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this world where an animal
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i find it really odd imagine
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if one third of your body day songs
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you know be like you can operate
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that's how the world operates everyday without
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even blinking nobody goes i've
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never seen an african movie made by an african
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and it's fun it uses
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it keeps going nobody stands
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to see if i don't know you know
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and african sciences and it's former
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we just keep going steady going
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steady again as i just found it odd that if
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is a
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the world this
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the neck mean it and
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how we lean on each other we all have something
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offer the all that of the traits are bad
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traits it's it's odd to me
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that there's so little interest
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but also let's not forget the continent burst all
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of this anyway self self
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so is this how are we forgetting
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that such a critical part of
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our you know i'm
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amalgam as human beings is being
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excluded and i've never understood that as
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an answer to the average
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american culture of holding it
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the it'll some sort of mansell you
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know if for very long time and of you can see now
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we're all kind of the dissipating and a discourse
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related story without
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a doubt in terms of this loud voice at
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least in the last you , thirty
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forty fifty years had just going
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missing culturally waste of
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i'd be that you know the media
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monopoly exists year and said you could stand
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on it in the whole world of here you bet
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against you bet succeeded feeling diner
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here public enemy for the first time
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be seen them at all what we knew to be
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true and public and actually visiting
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dot and that i yeah no we no
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we back to show us that visit
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was so the transformational
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just but not for me before several
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people who are looking for something
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the stand on it and hip hop culture was
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that thing
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ah
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when you say
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african average you movies made by
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africans how important is that you because
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there are movies that like
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that i saw
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was growing up that were that were so
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place on the continent and another they were
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directed by africans auto did read about black
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people i don't know what your rebates
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i'm not sure how much
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africa by averages are
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consumed in media besides
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was really bored all with with with
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k n n n o
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the burnable
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florida davidow that
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sabadell so i'm not sure how much i've actually consume
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what what does that look like what is that where's
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that so first that the waters
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about some for second so
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sounds have been
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skyn nominee i think about five
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six of them for best foreign
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picture i'm those
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almost one hundred percent of them have
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been made by not africa
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right in a few to who have
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one
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get your peers who went to
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ask the make movies as again
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as you know i i i found it off
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i found it odd because they have no other
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people you don't have their
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story he told by others at
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such a rate there again if it was once
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the you want for me it looked i guess
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yes he bled for when we're talking ninety
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percent of what you've consumed you
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know ns wire and i'm so grateful
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for this time because wait
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and see live in in of
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the reality that with hopeful for
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a long time that we will actually
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have added get to the means of production
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create to work as we see it again,
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right or wrong that's how i see it and
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it'll be more truthful in terms of my take
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on it and someone who is voyeuristic,
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you know someone who is on the outside,
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go in what is liverpool still pick
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and select and i feel like fine
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getting to that where if you look at netflix,
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picking up a lot of asking films
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now know, a quality
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found, a lot of the the music that's been consumed
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globally is is africans
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made by africa on the continent exporting
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again we grew up being bombarded
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by the war of you know what i mean just
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now that we're like okay well let's
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have let's have in a dialogue
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it's not going to be a monologue any more where
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we are over there just accepting of
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receiving we're going to have something
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to say because that for me if i will grow
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as as as a as no as
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a species
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shows the was young said mr
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the should have not seen that are ,
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if such a vast continent the
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blessing to travel every corner
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of it at least not every country but every you
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know cardinal point eight you
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go man not as with his his old saying
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you got a mirage is actually kind of africa
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he would assault that different time you go
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to take yeah you got that dot else and
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a lot less affair i haven't made
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, similar mad
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and everything unsustainable x the first one to go run out
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was
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something about like is t then
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that i was in expect
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when i why it's that smooth
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and i ate an adult
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what did they remove
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but you are been nice it and it's your vision
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and i'm just working on
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that project i felt like
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open my eyes but as just sell
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so connected is so proud that's
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the words i felt so proud
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watching black is king was
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that when you when you get the call
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to work on this you're not sure
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i and maybe others have conversation of was what
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you wanted this to be vocal
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the recall what was your whole when
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someone who's not from africa
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is watching this
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yeah i'm yeah well
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i'm his first and he saw the br say
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mayor because he was is to disingenuous
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house yeah to sex abuse for
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the same kind of percent enabler
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of jenny point for since herbert genuine
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goal with the comedic something beautiful
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for her kids my kids you know
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i mean fall to haven't seen africa
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the way we note to be
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like when you touchdown you know what ifs
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ands she's been with she hadn't seen
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it immediate and oldness
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sue for i mean name at block as king already
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was like while but
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but but ultimately she tells people
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who are products of it you
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know enemies he kills people on the continent she chose
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people who were from the continent to
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do the work said already collaborated with a ton
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of them the she was like yo go do
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it you know and and and she
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gave us are times when i
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literally would come into the office
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with for would was gets out
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you know that that the storyboard as you'll be
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are adults that six sizes
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go do it as an older than
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the south africa put together an incredible
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team
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there
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if they are people forget about black
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as king is it's it's one
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of the first time you've ever you've actually
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seen the continent's said
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beautiful
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the early is is a married and do
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you know under appreciated
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fact but it's a major fact
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because we're very so so i to see the cardinal
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i don't like the nasa geo nat
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geo viewpoints it's very rare
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that with you for what are been africa that's beautiful
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yeah he off ahead and mbs
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was very particular about that
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was a a wilderness when i only
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also just gonna shoot at at as it's when a seat
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of also as to how we hope
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it could be the enemy and
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n n n fact he was a lot
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of the inspiration
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to go out there knowing how i grew
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up know the community said warfare and
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knowing how i see them and i knowing
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how beautiful they are innately
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and just making sure that my camera captured
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that and really that was it like but
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i mean that impacts it was literally two
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years ago around the same time
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literally out will call with times
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it was wild in the are going to
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are you
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in a see something
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as beautiful you are cry joe the night
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he came out i was alone so
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yeah cause i actually i believe
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we have achieved this
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is it was thinking yeah shut
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off the jenny kourou shot the
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you know i mean he brought all
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you know all the amazing creative
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that worked on this
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we are from what kind of the purple now
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i guess completely paper proposed
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to do so on
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everyone as a kid
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one of the movies that we would get together
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and watch together as a family was was really
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tough for the mid was i
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the color purple
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you know my mother had a big issue
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with danny glover for long time
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i'm i'm a long
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, on everest lethal
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weapon to cable what's on issues like out
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a seat at at
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sister's oh any oh lies
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at the was italy the for this this
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as i understand it is
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not a retelling cause of the opposite it's
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efforts when i hear they're going
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to do the color purple i say don't do
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not leave and status because because
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because to the
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the moment of time it represents with all those people
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have a bed and i left the commies
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the noblest was directed i'll have the com
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in ah to say so why don't we let
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ours the comment on a say rules
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i may just leave it alone is
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, cozy be of as he was i you know you
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may blitz is i'm like oh says
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go back to leave the comments and now you
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do i wanna see for people who
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my feel that way for people whom i feel this
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is a disease of the couples
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a classic movie was as classic scenes amazing
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performances what's different
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about
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the color purple that you guys are
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bring it to the screen a while to tell us who's
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working on it with you as some
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of the me first routledge couldn't
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be more or less likely to say this
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burger king i couldn't be more bless
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this opportunity the
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direct such a because
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a store for us without us walk is not because
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the source at the beginning know that
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novel
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right
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so be like
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are ready the college
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freshman year blew my mind
18:30
because it was going first time i've
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asked american literature that also
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had
18:35
a window into africa
18:38
where are you know that even exist
18:40
wow here's his poor black
18:42
women living in rural south to
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those africa kudos as sister is
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in africa who is connecting
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with her sister on the track and i was that
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that of his stuff was was was radical
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me into getting the opportunity
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to choose to
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we imagine as a call it a rematch
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which is not a retailer that a remake
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august with we imagination and
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when that starts from first book such
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as we start first what was left out because
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it as such as well as you
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know about movies that sort of amount
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of books even items
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so much you can take by is it still so
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much story that is with in
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the book that you know we explore
19:23
further in in this versus tulsa
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musical and he knows
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you know i come from music you know that that
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but my love and respect for
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black music nuts is certainly in
19:34
the americas but globally and how they're
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evolves man like some economists
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and made gonna tell ikea know
19:41
the states to bats in bats car live
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like that is circle for means but
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given an opportunist splashing america music
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specifically from the black
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hole the blues jazz said
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it appeared everything else as we
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know it there was no popular music in the world
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without that music that struggles
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and i have in a way you can align
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seeley story with the evolution
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of an american
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music it's that you know it is it's
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it's it's look that is degraded
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with the war can't live without you know i mean
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and that's what happens with seats but i will see
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the wonder when people ask me what's different for
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one thing i will say said
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in ah sources see we have
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an imagination if
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you don't know how i love for must love
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to play with that world wide
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web sites
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though
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sit there and out
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there are no nobody deals
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with from without have
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an approach how most wouldn't exploring
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for tell my because the get as words
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popular and will you find us into sale
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on climate the my to
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in a creative energy is so fertile
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based on the suppression the we faced
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over time and seeley
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has dealt with all of this
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suppresses and so her mind because the first
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place was to go to mean every
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mean every that she's dealing with something
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we can go there so so she's not just caught
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in
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because everything is this
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when you put an abuser and at it and
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if someone has abused on the same platform you've already
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given the abuser power right
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because there is no such thing as an equal
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footing with the abused and it in producer
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com at as and personally
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the way i view would ultimately
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is that given seeley and imagination
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ultimately allowed for
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who
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i'll have been passed her abuser because
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we were men horrible at a we
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wouldn't navigating worked for house he's
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dealing with for a beach but i think
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that's a huge difference
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i mean and people will i really
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believe people connected it's version based
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solely on the focal point you know i
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mean it goes really deep
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in her mind is beautiful and she grows
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as he sighs to fit how to navigate
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mr how to navigate sure how
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to navigate the you know sophia
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