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good conversation because
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the topic was brought up by
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a few of my followers on Instagram
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and it's actually a question that I get
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a lot and it comes down to
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how do we articulate
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our thoughts in a more
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coherent way so that people
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understand us and we
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have the gall to speak
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up in conversation, whether it's in a meeting
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or you're on a sales call or
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your in a Q and a on a
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live presentation. How do we get
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those ideas out of our heads,
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through our mouth, out into the world so that
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others actually understand
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them and get them and
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want to continue to talk with us. And you
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know, this is something that I used to struggle
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with a lot and if I'm being
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totally honest with you, I still struggle with
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sometimes I, I feel like
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sometimes the things in our head seem
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so much more logical than how they do
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when they come out of our mouth. And you
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just get comfortable with this idea that when
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you do the work and you learn
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how to articulate yourself, you just have
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to trust in it and stop getting caught up and self-conscious
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thinking that you're not communicating with yourself.
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You probably are much better at this then
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you give yourself credit for. But
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nonetheless, we're going to talk about
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that today. And so here's a couple of the situations
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where it might pop up for you. Maybe
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you'll feel like your words are a little
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circular, that it takes you a really
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long time to finally get to
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your point. Uh , maybe you
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struggle articulating yourself on camera,
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whether you're doing like 17
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takes on your iPhone to try to come up with one
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Instagram story and then you'll finally just bail
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because it's way too long
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to post. Or maybe you're trying
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to shoot a video for your course or
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your website and every
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time you hit record, you just get
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all awkward and fumbly and can't seem to
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get your point across. Maybe
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you struggle speaking up when
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you're having a difficult conversation at home
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with your partner or a really close because
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you don't want to hurt their feelings and you want
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to say things just the right way but aren't quite
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sure how to, maybe
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it's in a meeting and you have outside
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of the box idea and you're not quite sure
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how others react, so you hold it in because
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I get you're not quite sure how to get it out
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or a call with a prospect or maybe
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you just feel like other people get really
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confused when you speak. Wherever
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you are on this, you are
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not alone. Like I said, this is something
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that I hear so often
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and I have struggled it so much with
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it too and that's what we're going to
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dive into today. So we're
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going to talk about the real reason why
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you're struggling with this and I'm
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going to share with you an actual the
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process that I go through that
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I went through, but I still use
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quite often to stay on top of it to make sure
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that I'm actually showing up and speaking
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in the way that I want to speak in different
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situations. So I'm going to share with you a three step
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process that'll help you with this and
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I think it really going to love it. So
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before we dive in, you know, I have to tell you that
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this topic was something that has been
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really on my mind for quite a while
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. And yesterday I went for
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a run and I was listening to a
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podcast and I had to
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stop the recording because I had so
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many ideas for this episode and I knew
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if I did not get them out on paper
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right at that moment, I would forget.
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And the the really good ideas that I have,
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I knew it'd be valuable. This is where I was really
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articulating my thoughts around this three
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step process. So what I did
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is I stopped running, pulled
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my phone out of my armband and hit the audio
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record button and started doing
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an audio member memo for myself so
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that I would remember. But I didn't want
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to stop my run because I was really in a good,
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like a really good stride , a really good flow. So
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, uh , I was two miles into a five
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k run and I kept
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running while I was recording and I'm
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going to have to share this on my Instagram stories to
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go check it out. But I actually have
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a three or four minute memo
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to myself of me, like
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very embarrassingly PAYE anted in the background
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because I'm like a full on run
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mode down the street. People probably thought it was crazy
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because I was running with a phone in my hand talking
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to it. But you know, sometimes when you
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have ideas you just have to capture them.
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And that's what I did. So that was the basis
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of my outline for today's
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show. So here we go.
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Let's talk through it. So
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I want to challenge you for just a moment
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to think about. The real reason
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why you struggle with this, because
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I believe, and this might be a little controversial,
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but here we go. The the real
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issue, not about your inability to
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articulate yourself, it's more
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so about your lack of belief
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in what you have to say is actually valuable
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at all. So stewing
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on that for a moment. You either have
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one or two reactions, one going,
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girl , you crazy. I of course,
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what I have to say is valuable. Like that's not
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it at all. Stick with me
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for just a moment. But if you're in the
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other basket and you're thinking,
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oh, I had never considered it that
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way before. We're going to explore
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this a bit, but I want to
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introduce to you something
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that has made a profound impact in
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my life, specific to how I run
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my business, how we approach my relationships,
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my personal development, but also bringing
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it now into how I model out my communication.
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And it's something called the model and
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I was introduced to it by Castillo
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, who runs the life coach school. I listened
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to her podcast. It's incredible by the way, go check
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it out. But she talks about this idea
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that if you're unhappy
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with your results, you need to go
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back a couple degrees to think about what's
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actually causing your results. And
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she talks about that our thoughts create
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our emotions and our emotions
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create our actions and our actions
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create our results. And
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a lot of times when I, I hear people
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talking about their frustration for
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how they're communicating or their inability
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to communicate. They're talking about
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the actions piece. They're talking about
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this in ability to speak
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up in a certain moment or an inability
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to form compelling
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and persuasive messaging
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in their conversations. But really
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if we, if we go backwards a little
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bit, the action being
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the lack of speaking up or the
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lack of articulating herself really
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is from how we feel
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about those moments. So if we're feeling
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insecure, if we're feeling
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frustrated with ourselves, if we're feeling
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like other people might
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be disappointed in what we have to say are confused
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by what we see, we're worried about their feelings. And
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it really leads back to our own insecurities. And our own
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lack of belief in ourself, our
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emotions are getting the best
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of us and preventing us from taking
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action. Does that
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resonate with you at all? Yeah.
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Taking that a step further, if we go
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back and say, what are the thoughts
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that we have in our minds that
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are causing us to feel that way? So
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if you, let's say you're sitting
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on a call with a prospect, okay,
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let's say you're having a conversation and maybe it's
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a sales conversation and you're wanting
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to pitch your
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program. Maybe you do one on
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one coaching, or maybe you have a product that you're selling
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and you're having a conversation with them and you're
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getting to that point where you, you're going to
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talk about price, you're going to talk about your
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offer and let's
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say that you really
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get like choked up,
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not like the emotional crying choked up, like choked
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up me . You can't articulate yourself when it comes
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to the money piece. So you fumble
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and you talk over yourself and you just keep going
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to try to validate what your pricing is or,
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or you avoid talking about the details.
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Maybe your, you
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completely avoid the conversation at all and
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you take it offline and say you're
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going to follow up with them in an email with the proposal,
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whatever that is, the action there that you're
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struggling with around money. Let's go backwards
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around your insecurities, around
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money. Let's go your insecurities around
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how they might be thinking
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at what your services value
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are . A , you might be feeling frustrated,
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you might be feeling insecure, you might be
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feeling nervous. There's so many feelings
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you might be having, but it all goes back to first. What
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were you thinking in that moment? So
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if we're telling ourselves the narrative that
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other people don't believe in our services
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or that they're going to think it's really expensive, or we're
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telling ourselves that there's no way they have money,
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that they can afford it. This narrative
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that we've put into our own head,
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which by the way is
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not even true. It's just
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the story that we've come up with that
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is leading you to feel nervous
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and flustered and frustrated and therefore
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leading to your inability to
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act in the way that you want to act.
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So if you're struggling to show up
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in that specific moment, let's
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use a different example. Let's say
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you struggle speaking on the fly.
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Maybe you're in a meeting or you've given a live presentation
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and it's a moment of Q and a and somebody puts
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you on the spot. How
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does that phrase make you feel? When
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someone puts you on the spot? Do you
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just clam up and get super
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nervous and start fidgeting
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and fumbling and making a mess
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of words to try to articulate yourself or
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how does it, how does it make
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you react when someone puts you
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on the spot and that
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type of situation? If
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we are really good at it, it's because
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we've told ourselves we're really spontaneous
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and we're flexible and we're really good at
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thinking on the fly and that's the narrative we created,
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so therefore we don't feel nervous or
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anxious in those moments. We just do it. But
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for the other half of us who get really
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nervous or flustered or frustrated
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when we're quote unquote put on the spot,
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think about the feelings that you
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have in that moment. Are they
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created by how you're thinking
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about that moment? Are you thinking about, oh my gosh,
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people are gonna think I'm stupid if I don't answer this
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correctly. Are you thinking about,
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oh my God, I'm going to get it wrong.
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And to me that means that I am
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a total fraud. Of course I don't, I
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wasn't meant to be here. Maybe you're
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talking to people that have far more experience
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than you and you're, and you're worried that
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they're going to find out that your
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a joke, whatever that looks like. And
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this is the epitome of imposter syndrome, but
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we all just sit on these feelings and
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what happens is these feelings impact
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our or this , these thoughts impact our, our
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feelings and our emotions. And then therefore
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it gets in the way of US actually taking
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action. And when it comes to communication,
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this becomes detrimental
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on building relationships
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and you creating value for other
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people, whether it's just in a conversation
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or it's you delivering
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a video that really could impact a person's
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life. So the question
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we should be asking instead of how
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do I get over my fear of speaking
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up in the moment or how do I, how
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do I get my thoughts out of my head smoother?
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Sure, we can talk about that, but the better question
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to be asking is what thoughts
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and feelings am I having related
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to those situations where I'm not happy
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that there are or are not happening? One
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of the thoughts and feelings that I'm having that are causing
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my inability to speak up in the way that
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I want to and another question
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to consider is what results
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are you not getting because
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of it? Is Your
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Business struggling with sales?
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Are you unhappy with
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how many people are engaging with you online?
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Are you frustrated with the quality of your
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relationships? Are you continually berating
12:53
yourself because you leave
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conversations and kick yourself for
12:57
yet again, not speaking up? What
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results are you not getting because
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you're not taking action and you're
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not taking action because the narrative
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that you're telling yourself isn't
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serving you? Does
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this resonate with you? I
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know it. It absolutely did for
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me. I think, thinking back for a moment,
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I still remember early in my
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career when I was working at a consulting
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firm for small business owners, I
13:27
had just been promoted to a director
13:29
level position and we had a big
13:31
event down in, we
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were in Mexico, we were in Cabo
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and I was assigned to have a
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meeting with a client on their business
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and talking about how things were going and
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strategizing for the upcoming year. And
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I was 27 years
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old and this business owner
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was in her fifties, very successful,
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multimillion dollar business. And
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I was terrified
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because this business owner was a new
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Yorker and she had a
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reputation about her that she was direct
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and to the point didn't really put up with
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people's , um, raw , raw or
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small talk. She wants to know
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who were you and what were you going to do for her and what was the strategy?
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I was terrified, terrified
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of this conversation so much that I asked
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a colleague to join me because
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I didn't feel like I was going to create any
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value in this conversation. And
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so for days leading up to this, I
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just ran through the story in my head of
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she's going to think, well, I'm the same age as her
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daughter. There's no way on in
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the world she's going to respect
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me, even listen to me. She's
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going to pat my head and pretty much
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say, you're adorable, but stay out of
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my business. You don't know what you're doing. You're, you're
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a child. Uh , and
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it was all these things I was feeling physically
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nauseous. I was nervous.
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I was just making myself
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sick about it. And I
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remember we decided to have this meeting.
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The, the person I invited, he , he was like, Hey,
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let's go do it on the beach. And I was thinking
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like, why are we going to have a business meeting on the beach? But
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looking back, it was like the best idea on
15:06
the planet. But so him and I are walking into
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the meet and I just, I
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was just feeling all of the feelings,
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not feeling good about this conversation.
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And he looked at me and
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he had asked me, hey, what's, what's going on with you? You're , you're
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looking a little looking, a little green to look a little weird.
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And I remember asking myself,
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okay, do I share with him what I'm thinking? I don't want
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him to think I look weak or that I'm incompetent
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because I am super smart. I'm really
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good at my job and I do know what I'm doing. But
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the story I had placed in my head was
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just all the things that led to
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me feeling like a fraud.
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And I don't remember exactly
15:42
what he had told me, but it was something along the
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lines of stop
15:46
being a dump dumb. Whatever story
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you have going on in your head is
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your story. She
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hasn't said any of these things to you.
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So the re the reality is your
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causing all of this craziness
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and this craziness that you're creating
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in your own head, is that
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going to help you in this conversation
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or is it going to distract you from creating
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a meaningful conversation and being helpful?
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And that to me was a big light
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bulb where I realized that regardless
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of how I was feeling the, the
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reality was I created those
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feelings. And it's fine
16:24
to feel however I wanted to feel about it,
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but all of that emotional
16:28
crap that I brought to that conversation,
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it wasn't helping me and it most
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definitely wasn't going to help the client and
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thank goodness I had a really great colleague
16:38
who helped show that to me in
16:40
that moment and I was able to go, all
16:43
right, let it go, and we went into the
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conversation and actually had a phenomenal
16:49
conversation together and
16:51
in it I was, I actually used
16:53
my lack of experience and age as
16:55
a strength. We talked about being able to look
16:57
at things from a different perspective. The reason
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why I wanted to share this with you today is this
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conversation was just, I
17:04
don't know , eight years ago, and
17:06
since then that cycle
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of imposter syndrome has hit
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me so many times
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and every time that it does, I
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have to go back to that exact same question
17:17
my friend asked me and that was, is
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this the , all these feelings that I'm having,
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all these thoughts that I'm having around the narrative that I've
17:24
created first, is it true? And
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secondly, is it serving me
17:30
and is it serving my business?
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And I want you to ask the same question
17:35
of yourself because if you're finding
17:37
yourself really struggling
17:39
to show up and articulate yourself and you've
17:41
done the work and start asking those questions around,
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why are you feeling that way? What
17:46
are you thinking about that are causing
17:48
those feelings? And is
17:50
that narrative serving you? Is
17:52
it serving you to say, I am not
17:54
good at speaking? Is it serving you to say,
17:57
oh, I don't do this because I'm always so
17:59
nervous? Is it serving you to always
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say that you don't speak
18:03
up, that you don't have a
18:05
way with words that you like
18:07
to take the back seat instead of the front seat in
18:10
a in meetings or conversations? What
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is the narrative you're telling yourself and how is
18:15
it working for you? Because
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if you are complaining about
18:19
your inability to communicate or frustrated
18:22
by how others just seem
18:24
to have a more natural tact for it,
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I bet you you're not getting the results that you
18:29
want in your business or in your career.
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And that's really what you're frustrated
18:33
with. So let's
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talk about how we actually
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change that narrative. So the first I
18:41
want you to do the work and ask yourself some of the questions
18:43
that I had been walking you through here today. Start
18:46
asking yourself, how are you feeling when
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you have those moments of frustration
18:50
about not being able to speak up? What is
18:53
it that's going through your mind? How are you feeling
18:55
about it? And this is some , this
18:57
might sound a little weird to you, but I'm a big
18:59
journaler. I think that there's so much
19:01
power in you actually writing down your thoughts.
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So I'm going to encourage you today
19:06
and you're going to notice this a lot on my show.
19:08
I'm an encourage you to get a pen on paper
19:10
and explore your thoughts a bit. What
19:12
is causing these feelings that you're having?
19:15
What are you telling yourself? And explore that
19:17
a bit because until you get to that
19:19
root situation about
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you understanding that narrative and then starting
19:23
to change it. This, the tactics
19:26
that I'll teach you. Sure
19:28
they'll, they'll work a bit. But
19:30
you're always gonna have that lingering issue.
19:32
And that insecurity of not feeling
19:34
like your an expert communicator or
19:36
that you're just good at articulating
19:39
yourself. You have to build the confidence
19:41
within yourself first. And that starts by questioning
19:44
how you show up in your beliefs.
19:47
So that's my first encouragement
19:49
for you is to do the work on the journaling piece.
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Explore that for a bit. And I suppose
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that in itself could have been a whole episode by
19:57
itself, but I wanted to also create
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some tactical solutions for you. So
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how about here we pivot and let's talk
20:04
about some tangible things that you can do
20:06
to start working through how you show
20:08
up in articulate yourself in those
20:11
live moments. The first thing to talk
20:13
about is the idea that you can't
20:15
wait for those actual moments
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for the moment you get on camera for
20:20
the moment. The question comes up in the meeting
20:22
for the moment the audience member asks you
20:24
a question on the fly. Uh , for
20:26
the moment you're in a difficult conversation
20:29
with your boss or you're
20:31
in a sales conversation with a prospect, you
20:33
cannot wait for the moment to
20:35
tackle this issue. If you're
20:37
waiting for that moment, you're setting up yourself
20:40
for failure. You're not going
20:42
to have a different result for
20:44
yourself because you haven't done anything differently.
20:46
Do you? Not Up to that . So here's my three step
20:48
process to help you articulate yourself
20:51
with more confidence in your conversations
20:53
and meetings and calls and videos and whatever
20:55
other application you have for it. Step
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number one is anticipate
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what's going to happen. So,
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okay, here's what, here's what I mean by this. You're
21:05
not going to be able to change
21:08
the way you communicate every single conversation
21:10
overnight. So let's first
21:13
start by taking specific
21:15
situations you have coming up and
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anticipating these moments
21:19
where you want to speak up eloquently
21:22
and with confidence and with authority. So
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think about a meeting that you have coming up on
21:28
your schedule, a meeting, a conversation,
21:30
a video, something that you really
21:33
would like to show up with stronger
21:35
articulation of your thoughts. And
21:38
this is where I want you to get another pen and paper
21:40
out and really
21:42
think about the meeting or the conversation
21:45
or , uh , the engagement itself
21:48
and ask yourself what questions,
21:51
what topics, what objections
21:53
might come up and
21:56
take a few minutes and start writing
21:58
all of this out on paper. What
22:00
could come up, what decisions need to be made,
22:03
what are some people's thoughts and opinions that
22:05
might come up? What are your thoughts
22:07
and opinions? So explore
22:09
what could the conversation be
22:11
about? Get it all down on paper.
22:15
That's step number one. Step
22:17
number two, identify three
22:20
of those topics or questions
22:22
or parts of the conversation that you
22:24
feel passionate that you would like to be able to contribute
22:26
to. Okay, let's do an example of
22:28
this. Let's say that you have,
22:31
let's say you have a live presentation coming up and
22:34
you are freaked out about the Q and a
22:36
portion of that presentation.
22:38
So you're, maybe you were feeling like, oh, we
22:40
should just not do it at all. That's not the right
22:42
answer. Here's what we're going to do. Maybe
22:44
you visualized or you wrote
22:47
down a list of potential questions
22:49
or objections that could come up and
22:51
you identify three of
22:53
these to explore and what
22:55
I want you to do is do
22:57
an exercise that I call the word vomit exercise.
23:01
I know word vomit, it's not sexy, but I
23:03
promise that you'll remember it. Word
23:06
vomit exercise is you bring
23:08
up the topic out loud to yourself.
23:10
It's bonus points. If you turn on
23:12
an audio recorder and you
23:14
ask yourself the question or you make
23:16
the comment of someone else in the meeting
23:19
and then you respond to it . Let's say somebody asked
23:21
me a question around, hey Heather,
23:23
I really struggled to articulate
23:25
myself when I'm live at the moment in a meeting
23:27
with my boss, every time I leave
23:30
I feel like I'm leaving with things left unsaid
23:32
and I think he thinks that I'm kind of a dumb, dumb
23:35
and and competent because I'm never able to articulate
23:37
myself or even share with him what I'm thinking. I
23:39
Dunno if that resonates with you, but that's something that I have
23:41
heard specifically before
23:44
from my audience. What I would
23:46
do to get to the point where I could answer
23:48
that question and create true meaningful
23:50
value. I do this exercise
23:52
called the word vomit and that's where I asked the question
23:54
to myself. And now I just spend
23:57
however long I need to just word vomit
24:00
in , answer the question, and go on and on and
24:02
on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on
24:04
and on and on and on to answering the question. And
24:06
what happens is I'll start
24:08
talking very circularly around
24:10
it and it will take an eternity for
24:12
me to get to my point. But through
24:15
all those thoughts and , and ideas
24:18
and randomness that I shell out
24:20
in that word vomit, I'll have
24:22
these brief moments of clarity where
24:25
I will say a phrase that
24:27
just perfectly
24:30
explains what I'm trying to say.
24:32
It puts my point into
24:34
a very clear sentence or fragment.
24:38
I call this a golden fragment.
24:41
And every once in a while we have these
24:43
moments that something we say is just
24:45
crystal clear and it's brilliant.
24:47
And if only we
24:49
took the time to write those
24:51
things down so we remember them.
24:54
That's what I want you to do in this exercise. So the
24:56
step two is determine what
24:59
questions, objections, or
25:01
topics might come up and walk
25:03
yourself through the word vomit exercise
25:05
and start thinking about what do you have to
25:08
say on this topic. Then
25:10
you write down the golden
25:12
fragments, the golden phrases
25:14
that come out of your word Fama and
25:16
you write them down so you have
25:18
some predetermined thoughts on paper
25:21
so you are more prepared and
25:23
less rambly in the
25:25
moment. So
25:27
then that leads to step three. This
25:29
is where you set yourself up to speak
25:32
without pressure. Let
25:34
me give you an example of this. So
25:37
I mentioned multiple times now that I really
25:39
enjoy running. I love the act
25:41
of running right
25:43
when I'm finished because I feel
25:45
like I have conquered the world.
25:48
But getting out on a run is
25:50
super hard. Running the first half
25:52
a mile feels like death
25:54
and it's not really until I hit the two
25:56
mile mark where I actually feel
25:59
good about it. I hit that zen mode
26:02
where I feel like I'm not
26:04
going to die. But
26:06
the worst moment for me about
26:09
going on a run is talking myself
26:11
out of bed to get my shoes
26:13
on the snow or the
26:15
alarm goes off. I hit the snooze button a bajillion
26:18
times and then my brain jumps in and starts telling
26:20
me, Oh, all the things that I could
26:22
be doing except for running, like sleeping
26:25
or doing other personal
26:27
development things or house chores
26:29
or anything else but running. And
26:31
then I talk myself into not
26:34
running by coming up with
26:36
an excuse and or a plan to
26:38
do it later that day. I never do
26:40
it later that day. And I know that about myself.
26:43
So , uh , luckily I discovered
26:45
Mel Robbins five second rule.
26:48
Shout out to that, go download that book right now
26:50
if you haven't already. Where she talks about this idea
26:52
is you have just a brief moment to
26:55
make a decision to jump in and do
26:57
something before your own brain talks
26:59
you out of it. And I use that
27:01
for me, getting out of bed in the morning. As
27:03
long as that alarm goes off, if I can get my feet
27:05
on the floor and sit up, I'm
27:08
in five, four, three, two, one go.
27:10
I am up, my feet are on the floor
27:12
and then I'm ready to move on with my day.
27:14
I get immediately into my workout clothes,
27:17
immediately into my shoes and I'm on the
27:19
road. I do a couple things in
27:21
between like brush my teeth and pee and
27:23
you know all that other stuff. But uh, you get
27:25
the idea. And the reason why I'm telling
27:27
you this is because I bet that you
27:29
probably struggle with that snooze button
27:31
like so many of us do. It
27:34
also comes up in your conversations.
27:37
I bet you have a version of the stews button that you
27:39
use to avoid speaking
27:41
up in conversations to avoid saying
27:44
the thing that you want to say, to ask for the sale
27:46
to a , to speak what's on your mind
27:48
to your, to your spouse, whatever
27:50
that looks like. You have a snooze button. And
27:53
being aware that you have one is
27:55
very, very important, but so it's
27:57
coming up with a plan for how you're going to attack it. So
28:00
just like I use Mel
28:02
Robbins five second rule to get myself out of bed,
28:04
you need to have a way for you to do the same
28:07
thing with your thoughts and if
28:09
you've done the work in step one and
28:11
step two by anticipating what's
28:13
going to happen, what's going to be talked
28:15
about and pre-thinking about
28:18
what your thoughts and opinions are of those
28:20
topics. You have no
28:22
excuses for not showing
28:24
up and speaking up. You just
28:26
need to have that brave moment where you
28:28
get your feet on the floor and commit. And
28:31
how we do this is I would recommend
28:33
using a segway or many
28:35
people call them caveats to get yourself
28:38
into the conversation where you're able
28:40
to get this phrase out and
28:42
then you can follow it up with whatever you have
28:44
to say. So some of the segues that
28:46
I use, if I, if I'm not quite
28:49
sure how to articulate exactly
28:51
what I'm about to say, but I know I have some thoughts on
28:53
it. I might say something
28:55
like, I was
28:57
thinking a lot about this topic
28:59
before our time today and
29:01
some of that kept popping up for me was
29:04
fill in the blank or you
29:07
know,
29:08
I'm not quite sure how to say
29:11
what I'm thinking on this, but I , I'd
29:13
love to explore it. Can I externally process
29:15
a moment with you? You
29:18
also could say, you know, I can't help
29:21
but thinking blank
29:23
or I can't help but think blank or,
29:27
I know this is slightly unrelated,
29:29
but something that I was thinking about before I came
29:32
in here today was
29:33
blank or
29:36
you know, I was thinking a lot about our conversation today
29:38
and I , I took some time to put some notes
29:40
on paper. You mind if I share those with you?
29:43
Yeah .
29:44
Okay. So all of these are examples of ways
29:46
to set yourself up to speak. They
29:49
don't necessarily tell you exactly
29:51
what to say in the moment. You have to
29:53
trust your own experience,
29:55
your own intuition, your own knowledge
29:57
around what to actually deliver, but
30:00
nine times out of 10 all is you need
30:02
is just that push to
30:05
speak up and use your voice.
30:07
You talk to people every
30:10
single day. These people are not scary. It's
30:12
just you've created a narrative in your head
30:14
that something bad is going to happen if you speak
30:17
up. But if you do the
30:19
homework and already have your
30:21
thoughts and ideas on paper,
30:24
you're going to be so much more prepared. Just need a little
30:26
push to get yourself out there. So
30:29
let's apply this to a couple of things. Let's apply it
30:31
to a sales conversation. If you consistently
30:34
struggle to close a sale
30:36
or to make your pitch or make your offer,
30:38
you need to go through and write down
30:41
the specific things that you want to talk
30:43
about and then do the word vomit, exercise
30:45
out loud, saying those things
30:48
out loud to come up with your own way
30:50
of saying it, your own golden phrases and
30:52
write them down and use that as a guide
30:54
in that conversation. Same
30:57
thing happens when it comes to objections
30:59
or questions in presentations
31:02
or sales conversations.
31:04
When somebody asks you a question and
31:06
it's related to you delivering information
31:08
on a topic where you are an
31:10
authority or an expert or have experience
31:13
with, I bet you all
31:15
of the questions lead back to the same
31:17
core things. So what
31:19
would it take for you to do a little bit of work thinking
31:22
about what those questions or objectives are,
31:24
objections are, and going
31:26
through the word vomit exercise to come up with
31:28
your golden phrases, your best answers to
31:30
those and practicing those so when they come
31:33
up in the moment, you're just naturally
31:35
delivering that information very
31:37
organically. It's not contrived. You're not nervous,
31:40
it's just second nature because you've
31:42
done your homework and you've thought through it. This
31:45
word vomit exercise is,
31:47
is the thing that has helped me
31:49
get from where I used to be, which was a shy
31:52
and quiet fumbling
31:54
and secure girl who was
31:56
terrified to speak in front of people, to
31:59
someone who feels extremely confident
32:01
showing up and speaking to audiences of
32:03
a thousand or CEOs
32:06
in a board room . I'm really confident
32:08
in who I have and what my experiences are, and I'm also
32:11
super confident that I don't have all the answers, but
32:13
I trust in my own tuition
32:15
and I trust that I can navigate conversations really
32:18
well because I know what I'm
32:20
talking about and I also
32:22
know that I have the guts
32:24
to speak up when I know it matters.
32:27
Yeah .
32:28
Let's go on a little side tangent here. This also means
32:30
you often know yourself to know
32:32
that you shouldn't be speaking up if it's only to serve
32:34
your own ego. If the reason
32:36
why you're speaking up is just to be heard,
32:39
you just want your voice to be heard. You want to know
32:41
that other people know that you have an opinion, you want
32:43
to feel important. Everybody else
32:45
is in and so why shouldn't you? And
32:48
if you find yourself struggling with this,
32:51
you have to understand that when
32:53
you do speak up, it should be
32:55
for the benefit of the
32:57
greater good of the conversation. So
33:00
if you're trying to help the person you're
33:02
working with, the things that you bring up should
33:04
be helpful. If you're collaborating
33:06
in a meeting with your coworkers or your team,
33:09
the things that you bring up should be helpful
33:11
and help move people towards the ultimate
33:13
goal you're working towards. So
33:16
if you find yourself unsure
33:18
if whether or not what you have to
33:20
say is valuable
33:22
or if it's stroking your ego, just
33:24
explore that for a moment. And I
33:27
don't remember what the sane is around this, but if you're
33:29
worried that what you have to say
33:32
is valuable or not, if you're asking
33:34
that question, I bet it is valuable because
33:36
the people who have the ego and
33:38
just want to be heard, they're not asking that question. They're
33:40
just blowing right past that question and just speaking.
33:43
So just the sheer fact that you're concerned
33:45
that you might be talking too much or that other
33:47
people might not care what you have
33:49
to say. Or if you're really through your head, it means
33:52
that you actually care. And what you say
33:54
matters. So trust
33:56
your gut. Go through this process
33:58
we talked about today to develop your
34:01
own identity around why you're
34:03
not showing up. Work through that. And then
34:05
use my three tips for you. Showing
34:07
up with more confidence in articulate
34:09
yourself, articulating yourself better
34:12
in more conversations. So
34:14
sometimes it's just having
34:16
the bravery to start. It's that push you
34:18
need, but first explore why
34:20
you're feeling this way in the first place because
34:23
it really might be based off a narrative
34:25
that's completely untrue. It might just
34:28
be that you've labeled yourself a bad communicator,
34:30
but you're not. You just didn't
34:32
have a framework to help you work through this,
34:35
but now you do so
34:37
you no longer have an excuse to say you're
34:39
bad at it. I actually
34:41
want you to replace that
34:43
narrative. If you find yourself saying, I'm bad
34:46
at this, or I struggle with this, replace
34:48
that, and I want you to now say this, I'm
34:51
becoming the kind of person who's
34:53
brave enough to speak up and wise
34:55
enough to prepare for it. That
34:58
is your new mantra and
35:01
I hope you enjoyed today's episode.
35:03
I threw a lot at you when I really encourage
35:06
you, if you're listening to this in the car
35:08
or on a run, come back to this.
35:10
When you're sitting in front of a notebook
35:12
and a pen and do that journaling work, it'll
35:14
help you make big strides in how
35:17
you show up in your business. And
35:19
if you did enjoy today's episode, which
35:22
you let me know, please take a screenshot,
35:24
post it to Instagram and tag me at
35:26
the Heather Sager. I would love
35:28
to see you over there and tell me
35:30
what was it that struck you most today.
35:33
Can't wait to see you next week. See you then.
35:40
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