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Welcome

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to another episode of the hip hop uncensored

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and CEO will file hip hop newsy in

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a building for a very special edition of the hip hop

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and sensitive podcast got special guest in the

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building building, excuse me, and it couldn't

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be a perfect time. We got the good brother

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judge Joe Brown in the podcast. How are you doing today,

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sir?

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already young men. The judge

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is in the house. Right? Yes. Alright.

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That's all. Do what we do?

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Yes,

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sir. Man, it's a long time coming. We've been

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doing this for couple years now and you've definitely

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been on our list. So we are honored to have

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you on. And like you said, let's get right to it. There's

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a lot going on in this world right now judge and

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craziness. Obviously, Kanye is in

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the building and making a lot of noise out

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here in these streets. But before we get to all that,

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how do you feel about just twenty twenty

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two in general at totality and and how everything's

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going in our world in America right now?

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About four years ago, I said we

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need do something to heighten the

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contradiction so people can see

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what's really going on. Well, that's happening.

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And one of the things that

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I think is the biggest threat going

1:07

right now is what

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we're doing to suppress free speech. What

1:12

they're trying to do to Kanye is an

1:14

example of I mean, what

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he said

1:20

hey. That's supposed to hurt

1:22

somebody's feelings. well, too

1:24

damn bad. I mean, but the

1:26

example is he's looking at

1:28

something and he sees it on

1:30

screen. Right?

1:33

So people get it. Let's

1:35

say it's the Super Bowl

1:37

and they've got a controversial plea.

1:39

Did the guy catch the pass in

1:42

bounds, making it a first down,

1:44

or does the ball go

1:47

over to the other team. So they're

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showing a play and people are sitting

1:51

around, a bunch of them looking at different

1:53

televisions in the same house.

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And the man dude was inside, man.

1:57

he was in bounds, man. No. He wasn't mad

2:00

dude fooling out. Man, you saw that.

2:02

Right. And see,

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you're supposed to make something like that?

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liable for damages. What the

2:10

hell are we coming to?

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And

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see the other thing that I do not

2:15

like about is George Floyd bid.

2:18

His there's other stuff

2:20

that was not put out there much,

2:22

but it it showed that we're

2:25

video, for example, before

2:27

all this broke down, and then

2:29

he hit him getting put on the ground. There's

2:31

this young black guy. He said, hey, man,

2:33

mister. I don't know you. they gonna

2:35

take this money out of my check, man. I can't

2:37

afford this. See,

2:40

passed a twenty dollar bill to get fat

2:42

in there.

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And

2:45

he passed his counterfeit bill on

2:47

his young brother to store at a cupcake

2:49

shop. So the young brother's gonna have to

2:51

pay that twenty dollars out of his paycheck.

2:54

So he said, man, I can't afford that, man.

2:56

Would you get a money back, man? And

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he basically gets told to get locked.

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So

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I mean,

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That ain't right either. Right.

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And fentanyl is a bitch,

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man. I had canceled last

3:10

year. They told me I beat it.

3:13

but they gave me fentanyl, and it says

3:15

biggest daylight on

3:18

the container. It said in red.

3:21

It says one. This

3:23

reduces your respiratory function

3:25

sometimes dangerously. Wow.

3:28

And what was going on in this thing?

3:30

And I'll just tell you forget committing

3:32

on what was going on there. I

3:35

had just done to me demonstrated by

3:37

my lead brother, the Grand Master

3:39

of Marsh Large the lead great

3:41

doctor Clifford Stewart. My

3:44

brother died last year. And

3:46

am dead he

3:49

showed me how to do it. And what happens

3:51

is when you press on somebody's

3:53

carotid artery complex on

3:55

one side, you

3:57

reduce their

3:59

flow

3:59

of blood to the brain, but you don't

4:02

knock them out. What you do is you make them

4:04

feel like they're twelve, fourteen thousand

4:06

feet. so they didn't keep breathing

4:08

for a long time. But you

4:11

let go of it after a while and it got

4:13

a bad hit. but they

4:15

aren't moving. Now you get the guy

4:17

down on the ground, let's say if it goes

4:19

like it's supposed to, and

4:22

you suppress this

4:25

blood flow to the brain, all

4:27

of this is gonna happen. Let's say,

4:29

you put him under fat now.

4:31

and he's gonna have

4:33

a real problem, but he's not gonna die.

4:36

But if somebody puts a knee in

4:38

his back, like, let's say,

4:40

for example, a heavy set

4:43

way cop that comes in second.

4:45

What happens is this guy that you're

4:47

doing this to who's got the labor

4:49

to breathe, And

4:52

when you put to me in the back, what

4:54

winds up happening is mechanically,

4:56

he can't he starts heaving, reflexively,

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and some other people

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get involved in it, and that kills

5:04

him. And let's say the DA is too ignorant

5:06

of what physiology is

5:09

to go prosecute to

5:11

second cop for

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murder, but only manslaughter.

5:16

You know what I mean? It it could

5:18

happen that way. So Somebody

5:21

wants to call, what they call,

5:25

how much it is driven just by

5:27

somebody saying, okay, hundred and

5:29

fifty million dollars. Let's go

5:31

after it. And then you got an extended

5:34

family. And

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and i'm

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They got twenty eight million

5:43

dollars on a settlement against Minneapolis,

5:48

which has in the last

5:50

night, or I may be wrong,

5:52

but they had a two hundred and million

5:55

dollar liability insurance

5:57

policies. So

5:58

the

5:59

and

5:59

some family members may

6:02

not have wanted to settle for twenty

6:04

eight million dollars with a

6:06

big chunk of it going to console

6:09

who shovels it. Yeah.

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And you've got all kinds

6:13

of the things going on here. And people

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don't even get to understand them

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now because who wants

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to practice and risk somebody

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suing them for two hundred and

6:24

fifty million dollars because they got

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hurt feelings. I mean, I

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don't get it because

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I grew up, man.

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When we grand, it doesn't even matter. I don't even see

6:35

them but your mama made, but last night,

6:37

man. We was over there. Hey, man. You

6:39

didn't know about that because you would sleep, man.

6:42

But I apologize, man, if you got a

6:44

new baby brother coming in nine months,

6:46

man. Don't tell your dad, my

6:48

man, call whoever that

6:50

dude is, be staying over that man

6:52

because he was at work, you know, hey.

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I ain't even seen a bunch old

6:56

mama man, but she's so fat man.

6:58

She can't fit in the bathtub. But

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with two drops of water mask,

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why she can't get clean and she smells

7:05

so funky. Hey. Mhmm. You

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know, we used to do this for recreation,

7:09

elementary, junior high and high

7:11

school. What happened?

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Let me

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ask you this, I'm gonna get clarity

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on the fentanyl.

7:17

there are Is

7:18

it alleged that

7:21

George Floyd took the fentanyl himself

7:23

or the cops gave it to them him? I I

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don't know. Okay. He

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would they have video of him in

7:29

that?

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cupcake shop. He was at night. He

7:32

was high. Now,

7:33

it works. They

7:35

get a little thing about the size of your

7:37

fingernail, and it's on a little sticking

7:40

on him, sticking on his shoulder, and that's

7:42

good for three days. Mhmm. And

7:44

now I was in a lot of

7:46

pain. I had thirty degree burns on

7:48

out side of my neck and inside my

7:50

throat from this radiation treatment

7:53

every day of the week for two months.

7:56

And that hurt couldn't

7:58

swallow either. So I

8:00

took it, but it it works to kill

8:03

what you're feeling. But, man, you

8:05

don't want that far high. I

8:07

would always say, move everything

8:09

out the way, pencils, pens,

8:11

anything sharp. because you're

8:13

likely to hurt yourself or

8:15

accidentally do something crazy. And

8:18

that is a man, that

8:20

that that is a good heart. man,

8:22

not at all. That's, like, wicked.

8:25

It's, like, you do you get stuck

8:27

on stupid to the point where you sit there

8:29

and go, don't move. Let's go to sleep.

8:31

because you don't need to move. You'll do

8:33

something stupid. And, yeah, your respiratory

8:36

capacity gets diminished. So,

8:40

yeah, all of the above. I don't

8:42

know what he looked

8:44

like. Well, let

8:46

me say because I don't feel like

8:48

defending against some full complaint,

8:50

but let's just

8:52

say that a reasonable person

8:55

observing mister

8:57

Delight, mister Floyd, on

8:59

the security camera footage.

9:04

inside that

9:06

cookie shop might conclude

9:08

that someone was under the influence.

9:12

So I don't know. If

9:15

you do that voluntarily and you

9:17

don't need it fat now. That's

9:19

deadly. No. Good. And you know what? what

9:22

my co pay was on

9:25

thirty day supply. I had

9:27

nasty stuff. Three dollars.

9:29

Mm-mm.

9:31

sixty two damn cents.

9:33

Wow, man.

9:35

I mean, you see, they have

9:37

at major hospitals. They've got

9:40

tons of this stuff. And

9:41

am it's

9:44

easy for folks to snatch it and

9:46

sell it, a whole lot of it coming

9:48

across. bootlegged and,

9:50

you know,

9:52

in bulk across the border

9:55

each day. So Ain't

9:57

if you wanna give yourself a phone, fat,

9:59

you know, that's Davis. And he got a wound

10:02

a warning, shed

10:04

two or three usages of this

10:06

stuff can cause you to become an addict

10:08

unless you're in severe pain. If

10:10

you're in pain,

10:12

and some of that stuff

10:14

from cancer and radiation treatment

10:16

bad. That is a pitch man.

10:19

that

10:20

is not pleasant, but I mean,

10:22

a short of that

10:25

stayed the hell away from that man and

10:27

people are going

10:28

to that just like,

10:30

hey, going to drive you and excitement,

10:32

you know, for

10:34

a long life, you know,

10:37

can't come out after, you know,

10:39

the sun comes up, but

10:43

it's not cool. not cool. But

10:45

I I don't care whether I agree with

10:47

Kanye or not. Some things I

10:49

agree with him on and other stuff

10:51

I don't. But man,

10:53

I defend mid right to

10:55

safe. His stuff had gotten so

10:57

damn, sisified, and pumped out with some

10:59

of his stuff people are doing these

11:01

days about Oh my feelings

11:03

are.

11:05

it And

11:06

oh shame is so bad.

11:08

One should never shame anyone in

11:10

guilt is such a hard Yeah.

11:13

Some folk need to be shamed, and some

11:15

folk need to feel guilty

11:17

too.

11:18

Absolutely. What do you think

11:21

that this censorship says the

11:23

president for? I think it's gonna make

11:25

more people scared to to actually

11:27

speak out because they took it down. already been shipped

11:29

by the National Socialist

11:31

Workers Party. You know

11:33

what acronym for them was?

11:36

No,

11:37

sir. No, sir. Nazi.

11:39

Nazi is the German

11:42

acronym for a national socialist

11:44

workers party. and we saw it

11:46

everywhere. And I had a Russian professor

11:48

back in the sixties at UCLA

11:50

I was teaching assistant for.

11:53

and she used to

11:56

say America is in comrade,

11:58

America is in grave danger of

12:00

becoming a

12:03

fauci's feet. She used

12:05

to say it wouldn't be any giant

12:07

boot wearing coo stepping uniform

12:10

political folds it would

12:12

be some long hair pink

12:14

panty wearing, switching --

12:16

Mhmm. --

12:16

deep next as she called

12:18

them.

12:22

and

12:22

they would be doing it in the

12:24

name of doing you a favor. See,

12:26

when you have people,

12:29

that have had fifty years

12:31

worth of running the

12:33

entertainment and news industry or

12:36

taking control of it, inspiring propaganda.

12:39

there is this thing that the Nazis

12:41

knew, which was called, tell a lie

12:43

long enough and loud enough, you can get

12:45

anybody to believe it. And they've been

12:47

telling it for fifty years and then seriously

12:50

interjecting a point of

12:52

view into the mix

12:54

so that they flipped the

12:56

script, what they're

12:58

guilty of, they accuse and get out of the

13:00

folk to believe they're guilty

13:02

of, they get the target,

13:04

the thinking in the terms

13:06

that they want you to

13:08

think. And that's one where I get a

13:10

lot of young oh, your age

13:12

upset when I get on this inward.

13:15

Every

13:16

clinical psychologist I

13:18

know that I've talked to says

13:21

that you don't make that

13:23

inward harmless

13:25

by saying it or adopting

13:27

it. subconscious

13:29

knows what it means. So every time

13:31

you use

13:32

it,

13:34

it secretly chips away at

13:36

your own self name and

13:38

plus that

13:40

is

13:40

the work of the enemy. You

13:43

don't think that

13:45

they would not have cut

13:47

off the funding forty five years

13:49

ago, forty years ago,

13:51

thirty five, thirty, twenty five,

13:53

twenty fifteen, ten,

13:55

five years ago from

13:57

funding this stuff if they didn't

13:59

want it to be heard. They want

14:01

us to think of ourselves as

14:03

e. And by the way,

14:06

that end of

14:07

the sixties was a dead

14:10

work, but I

14:12

quite didn't. you

14:14

had well, I

14:16

used to run the public defender's

14:19

office and Memphis and back in the

14:21

mid seventies. I

14:24

had all these white employees who were

14:26

afraid to go out and talk to

14:28

black defendants and witnesses sir.

14:30

I'd go out.

14:32

Mhmm. I

14:35

was from Los Angeles and

14:37

but I was in Memphis, got sent here

14:39

on a fellowship.

14:43

I'm going into kitchen, into

14:45

projects. and

14:47

then girls thirteen, fifteen,

14:51

nineteen, and a nineteen year

14:53

old is quiet. and

14:55

every one of the girls from

14:57

thirteen to nineteen has children.

15:00

And you got ten to twelve

15:02

little kids, which snot dried

15:04

all over the faces and

15:06

food all over the front.

15:08

Crap

15:08

on their behind and they haven't had

15:10

it washed in two weeks, and

15:12

they stink like hell. And the

15:14

mom is going little in. Bring

15:16

me my cigarettes. She's little food. Little

15:18

picking any blah blah blah blah blah

15:20

blah. a young girl, he ain't up.

15:22

But, no, young

15:23

dog just like he's no good dad.

15:26

Young girls, he ain't worth,

15:28

you know, And you see that we're,

15:30

let's say, nineteen seventy

15:32

six. Okay. Seventy

15:34

seven. But it's fast

15:36

forward nineteen eighty seven.

15:38

that

15:38

seventy year old is now seventeen

15:41

going on eighteen. That's fast forward

15:43

from eighty seven to nineteen ninety

15:45

seven. And now,

15:47

twenty seven going

15:49

on. Twenty eight. Let's

15:51

go to two thousand six.

15:53

He's thirty seven, two thousand seventeen.

15:56

He's forty seven. He's fifty year

15:58

old man now. But

15:59

what is going on?

16:02

is his

16:05

mama

16:06

who

16:08

was fifteen,

16:09

sixteen, seventeen, nineteen

16:12

at the time. Now

16:14

is grandmama,

16:17

great grand mama, great

16:19

great grand mama, great great great

16:21

great great grand mama, etcetera,

16:24

with six generations, and

16:26

she ain't even hit sixty

16:28

years, sixty five years old,

16:30

seventy years old. and

16:32

she's running around acting a damn

16:34

fool, steel evil.

16:36

And we have all these young

16:38

brothers who have been raised by

16:40

being called in inward and

16:42

dogs. And, like,

16:43

one young brother explained to me,

16:45

this has been almost thirty

16:48

years ago, he's run these consonant

16:50

sessions. he told his

16:52

mama he would never come and back home

16:54

because he wanted to grow up to be a

16:56

man. And he starts saying

16:58

judges. Right? You start calling all those

17:00

dogs. Why you think we call you

17:02

bitches? because if you've been screwing all

17:04

these dogs, you mean, they're in the deep end,

17:06

what you say, judge, bestiality,

17:08

Are you a lady, though, which

17:11

makes you a bitch? So

17:14

you called it, and you ain't gonna

17:16

pump me out any damn more. I wanna go

17:18

up to be a man. And all of you and

17:20

y'all freaking girls up

17:22

in here like to accept you, miss

17:24

Jackson. I ain't ever heard you do

17:26

this, but ever since I can

17:28

remember, you've been down in

17:30

me. And, like, and

17:34

me ain't no but no dogs. I didn't, like,

17:36

what are you cutting on supposed to grow up to

17:38

be a pulp and problem out. I'm gonna be

17:41

no good and all this when I grow

17:43

up. Like, keep putting all this poison in

17:45

my head. What's the matter with

17:47

you?

17:47

So

17:51

there that goes

17:52

on, and I ran into that

17:54

kid again. But

17:56

now

17:56

it's almost thirty years

17:59

later. He

17:59

got

17:59

grandkids.

18:01

hey

18:04

He's

18:05

forty five years

18:08

old. and

18:09

he got

18:10

all his gray beard, and I just

18:12

walked up to me, said, judge. You

18:14

remember me? I said, no. That's

18:16

it. Usually, both

18:19

come up and say, did I give you

18:21

some time? And I say, did I give

18:23

you enough to know how was

18:25

doing. If you remember, I walked out

18:27

of that meeting and told my mom I

18:29

wasn't gonna be home when she got there

18:31

because I wanted to be yeah.

18:33

You the one who talked about the bitch

18:35

thing and the dog thing. Yeah.

18:38

He said, I wanna thank you for that. He said,

18:40

I'm married now. Didn't have

18:42

any outside babies and I

18:45

always work, and I try to teach

18:47

My kids will help. My kids are doing fine.

18:49

All of them in school. And I

18:51

got ten, fifteen boys around the neighborhood.

18:53

I'm trying to teach what you taught

18:56

me. Oh, yeah. That works. That

18:59

works

18:59

real well. See,

19:01

but we

19:02

have to take something back.

19:04

See, there was a coalition

19:08

back in the late mid sixties.

19:10

It was lesbians that hated

19:12

men, feminists that hated it.

19:14

They worked men, beta boys

19:16

that hated that they weren't strong

19:18

men. Gay boys hated they

19:20

weren't normal men. And then

19:22

you got some people talking about war was

19:24

a man thing and they hated

19:26

war. So they were running around

19:28

EBIT. You know, like, we gotta

19:30

change and, like, ward man

19:32

is evil. You gotta make love that

19:34

word and and, you know, we

19:36

need

19:36

to change the way we raise our

19:40

boy, so did he get bridged like

19:42

girls, so did your moody cry, let

19:44

it all hang out instead of crying

19:46

to be so updated that

19:48

the self control bed, you know,

19:50

say, a rebooting board war.

19:52

So no war toys, no cap

19:55

guns, no water pistols,

19:58

uniseks, child rearing, uniseks,

20:01

child hairstyle, the girls

20:03

that were black started putting breeds

20:05

in their boys' hair instead of dreads

20:08

and the white boys, they

20:10

started wearing long. curled

20:13

air with peak tails

20:15

and it and the

20:16

girl started getting

20:18

bush hair cuts. and the boys were

20:21

playing with what is

20:23

it? What's the

20:25

male barbie thing got

20:27

and playing with -- Yeah.

20:29

-- bar being GI Joe and

20:31

dolls and all this other crap.

20:33

It just got out of me.

20:36

So

20:36

it slid down

20:38

the rabbit hole.

20:40

And some of the

20:42

things right here, I had never

20:45

heard before but I I've heard them develop.

20:48

And I said,

20:48

man, I took propaganda for

20:50

a year UCLA.

20:55

pre class is worth. We won

20:57

a court system, and I'm sick,

21:00

man. They man has

21:02

gained tough.

21:03

and see, I know how to run it the

21:06

other way.

21:08

the

21:09

My brother

21:10

grand master

21:17

pen decker. Clifford

21:19

Stewart and another brother,

21:21

grand master, martial arts,

21:23

Ron Schappel, doctor Schappel,

21:25

now I'm myself. we used

21:27

to run Trinity App new elementary school

21:30

playground in the LA

21:32

City school system. Now,

21:34

now we put

21:35

in place some stuff, so we take

21:37

two hundred kids from first

21:40

grade to the seventh grade to

21:42

the movie every Wednesday downtown

21:45

they're late with just three of us. We were young

21:47

men and they're in charge. We

21:49

didn't have any noise down road with

21:51

each other and just didn't have

21:54

but

21:54

we started teaching them stuff.

21:57

And,

21:57

well, okay, to love

21:59

the

22:01

kids we

22:01

had on the playground, you probably

22:03

a male herd of. One of

22:05

them was a skinny little twelve

22:07

year old kid wound

22:09

up getting a real

22:11

deep voice.

22:12

And

22:13

the world knows him as the singer,

22:16

Barry White. Mhmm.

22:18

the we talked to his mama

22:20

a lot. And she went

22:22

with the program and she let

22:24

him get out of the swamp.

22:26

I let let us help getting him

22:29

out to swap. The other person

22:31

was the

22:32

last individual executed

22:34

on California's death row who

22:37

seemed to have cofounded

22:40

the crypts. So

22:42

and he was fourteen year old volunteer.

22:44

We had on a playground but his

22:46

mama wanted the chick wouldn't let him get

22:48

out to Schwab. So

22:49

he just became the band as asked

22:52

alligator in the Schwab. His name was

22:54

Tawke Williams. So

22:55

he wrote six children's

22:57

books and the punk has California

23:00

governor should have had the balls to have

23:02

commuted his sentence to life.

23:05

and in those books, he was trying to

23:08

teach the children what we taught

23:10

him. So this

23:13

thing that you can do

23:15

in terms of raising a fad,

23:17

we it's a science

23:19

to doing that. fifty five

23:20

years ago, you could make something a failure

23:23

in America with the

23:25

communications they had then in

23:27

just six

23:28

weeks. Now you

23:30

can do it in a matter of a week

23:32

if you push it. So

23:34

we have to push things to become

23:37

popular and fans that

23:39

are functional. stuff like

23:41

countering this thing about, what is a

23:43

toxic masculinity? Hell,

23:45

I remember back fifty five

23:47

years ago when this crowd I talked

23:49

about a little while ago was

23:52

trying to corrupt masculinity. They

23:55

started talking, we must spread the

23:57

word. Did masculinity just tops

23:59

to start off one thing at a

24:01

time. Now

24:01

people accept that as a valid word,

24:04

it's not. And the other one is oh,

24:07

homophobic. Mhmm. homophobic, getting

24:09

ten years old. Mhmm. And

24:11

the word that was in the dictionary

24:13

for centuries was heterophobic, which

24:16

means the real terror

24:18

of somebody gay, and somebody

24:20

straight would hang him, burn him at

24:23

the state, cash, greet him through

24:25

him in jail, ostracize him,

24:28

embarrass him, fire him, they

24:32

had that. So that's part of the

24:34

propaganda process of you

24:36

flip the script. Turn

24:38

it around so it goes to the

24:40

other side. this thing about fear.

24:42

It used to be, for example, the Democratic

24:45

party defended the bill

24:47

of rights you could always count on

24:49

him and the long and order as they

24:51

were on the bar

24:52

right, they would be trying to

24:55

suppress certain

24:55

things that are

24:58

now perceived as criminal rights

25:00

so that

25:00

the wrong could be put in jail.

25:03

And now you've got

25:04

the left attacking the bill of rights

25:06

and the right defending it. Left

25:09

trying to disturb We're

25:12

using a speech, a

25:14

right to remain

25:17

silent, searching, seizure, and

25:19

you can see it with what they did with

25:21

mister Cosby, doctor Cosby, and

25:23

that conviction got very properly

25:26

reversed. or an egregious

25:29

violation of the fifth amendment. So

25:31

I'm

25:31

not what

25:33

the hell? Nobody gives the damn about

25:35

what the loss is. And

25:37

right now, we don't even

25:39

have ten percent, fifteen percent

25:41

of the congress being trained

25:44

lawyers when it used to be eighty five,

25:46

ninety percent were, which

25:48

even lower in the state legislative

25:50

bodies and a lot of people,

25:52

well, Even judges and lawyers

25:55

nowadays, only twenty five percent have

25:57

ever read the constitution. Constitution

25:59

the to

25:59

isn't but ten,

26:01

twelve pages long in a

26:04

pamphlet. It's a lot shorter

26:06

than what you have to read the past. You're

26:08

driving tests or at least a

26:10

written test. get your driver's

26:12

license. So people need

26:14

to understand what they had

26:16

sex. Master

26:17

yeah We just

26:18

stop punts stupid accused the judge

26:20

for pontiffing, I guess, that's kinda

26:23

what I did for a long

26:25

time. No. No worries, brother.

26:28

Yeah. I want I want to ask you that kinda

26:30

leads me to the Willie Lynch letter.

26:32

I see you did a video about you.

26:34

Willie Lynch letter. They're all

26:37

letters. Okay. I just

26:39

happened to have lost a lot of

26:41

sleep back fifty five

26:43

well, fifty one or

26:46

two years ago. when I

26:48

had an internship in a

26:50

DC think tank. And I had

26:52

to sit in the library and congress

26:54

and study the

26:55

so called slave pamphlets that

26:57

were on microfilm. And Willie

27:00

Lynch started off with his

27:03

earliest publication I think it eight

27:05

they had in congress, and he wrote a

27:07

series of letters that were really printed

27:10

pamphlets. And he was

27:12

a wet oh, well, let's see.

27:14

In Bermuda, he

27:16

was a slave owner.

27:18

and razor of slaves in

27:21

Bermuda, and he traveled all

27:23

over the American colonies that

27:25

included Bermuda, Barbados,

27:28

Jamaica mine. the

27:29

Bahamas

27:31

and what became thirteen

27:34

colonies and Canada, mostly in

27:36

the south, of

27:36

what became the US, and

27:39

he taught how to enslave.

27:42

So there were Willie Lynch

27:46

letters and

27:46

Pampers, and there were a whole bunch

27:48

of them.

27:50

and And for

27:51

the hundred

27:54

and fifty year period

27:56

that they stretched over.

27:58

up

27:58

until basically eighteen sixty or

28:01

so with the most

28:03

recent set of slave

28:06

pamphlets that I had to read

28:08

and research, they all

28:10

were consistent. It wasn't just

28:13

divide and conquer. secret was

28:15

that you raised a slave

28:17

like horses. And I had

28:19

a ranch out in California where

28:21

my ex was raising a horse and

28:23

I had fifteen, sixteen of them

28:26

around the ranch at any given

28:28

time. And the way you do that

28:30

is when you buy wild

28:32

horses, which you could get for cheap,

28:34

for breeding stock, wild mustangs,

28:37

secret.

28:38

You

28:40

cannot domesticate a

28:42

wild statin. but

28:43

you can domesticate a wild

28:46

herd mayor. So

28:48

what you did is when you

28:50

domesticated the females. which

28:52

was sometimes a struggle. But

28:55

when you domesticated

28:56

the females, she

28:58

would domesticate her

29:01

offspring forward. So if you had

29:03

a fold that had a lot going

29:05

on and you left the fold

29:07

with the mama, you wouldn't have as

29:09

much work do to

29:11

domesticate that horse is if you

29:13

wean that foe very early for

29:15

mama and took it away

29:17

from his mother, then

29:18

you would have a lot more work

29:21

than you would have if the mama showed

29:24

offspring to paces. so they

29:27

relied on the black woman to

29:29

teach her children how to be good

29:32

slaves. Now one of the things that Willie

29:34

Lynch advocated and

29:36

was taken up was allow your

29:38

fresh neg roads to

29:41

run wild in your

29:44

district.

29:45

watched him carefully,

29:47

figure out who the ones were that were

29:50

gonna be the chiefs.

29:54

get the leader and get his

29:56

assistant, pick out which one you wanna

29:58

use to breed with, and

30:00

then strip the other one

30:02

naked, torture that one and have him

30:04

sodomized by a freak in front of

30:06

all the children and the women and the

30:08

rest of the slave. and

30:11

they slave women would

30:13

no longer look to their men for

30:15

protection. So

30:17

though you

30:19

just killed one of them and

30:21

used the other one after you crippled

30:23

him for breeding. And

30:25

that way, you would have the slave

30:28

women exercised their

30:31

selfishness to become grandmothers,

30:33

which seems to have been a thing then.

30:36

so they would raise their boys and girls

30:38

to be good slaves, so they would survive

30:40

that long. And that was one of

30:42

the secrets to slavery.

30:45

never deal with a

30:47

mature or elderly slave

30:50

male. Always deal with their

30:52

elderly mature, slave

30:54

females. Now,

30:55

where did the men go wrong?

30:57

Well, you had all

30:59

of this territory from

31:01

what was the eastern seaboard

31:03

all the way to the Pacific Ocean

31:05

and a lot of native Americans

31:07

out there

31:08

that that

31:09

black folk could

31:12

have escaped an ally with it

31:14

would have altered the entire history of the

31:16

country. Something like what they did

31:18

down in Florida with the Seminole

31:20

Index. You had the five civilized

31:22

tribes. Chalk tall, Chickasaw,

31:25

Cherokee, Creek, and Seminole. And

31:27

am

31:30

We could have done that, but the black men

31:33

apparently didn't not enough of

31:35

them. Wanted to be warriors

31:37

and then a great deal of the reason why

31:39

it was you didn't catch too many

31:41

warriors and make slaves out of them,

31:43

though you did, and they

31:45

tended to cause a lot of trouble

31:47

when they got brought over here.

31:49

now the slave train in terms of imported

31:51

slaves ended, I think it was eighteen

31:53

o seven by the constitution.

31:56

So you've

31:59

got a problem with how they bread,

32:01

sleeve. One of the most insidious things

32:04

that I read by the week was this.

32:07

Will and Lynch not so

32:10

much because it was very early. But

32:12

later on, the

32:14

slave masters were to

32:16

go in with their

32:18

fellow slave owners

32:20

and

32:20

buy a stock

32:23

Now

32:23

there was a peculiar attribute

32:26

they wanted to have.

32:28

They also wanted him to make a

32:31

good preacher. So make

32:33

the stud

32:34

to preacher and allow

32:37

slave marriage. So to

32:39

slave male would

32:42

find out that when

32:44

his female wife

32:46

why well, his wife was

32:48

believed to be in

32:50

heat, the

32:50

slave masters would bring over

32:52

the stud preacher to

32:55

sleep with his wife

32:57

often on

32:59

his pallet in his huff.

33:02

Wow. That would do what now would be

33:04

called demoralizing him.

33:06

and the slave masters were told the

33:08

tended services regularly, not

33:10

so much the ease drop

33:12

on what the slaves were up

33:15

to, but to watch this,

33:17

and this was in those pamphlets

33:19

over and over. When one of

33:21

the slave women got happy and

33:23

got the out and they're rolling

33:25

on the floor and thrashing

33:27

around. Now they call

33:29

it getting the spirit. they

33:31

did then too. That meant

33:33

that they were coming into Aspira. So

33:35

we're gonna be favorable within three days,

33:37

so make sure that the slave

33:40

preacher would have sex with

33:42

her so you could increase

33:44

your livestock and

33:45

your workforce. So, I

33:47

mean, with all kinds of incentives

33:50

stuff, and then that carries over in and

33:52

out. I used to represent

33:54

the back black Baptist ministers'

33:57

lives old thirty five

33:59

some years ago around

34:01

here. And I

34:03

remember attending a

34:05

similarity we're having on

34:07

life insurance. for the preachers. And this guy

34:09

was saying that their actuarial tables showed

34:11

that black preachers tended

34:14

to preach for about fifty years before they retired

34:16

assuming good health. So

34:18

all of a sudden, it clicked in my mind.

34:20

This was back in the eighties. I said, oh,

34:22

man, wow.

34:24

It's eighteen sixty and they got a twenty something

34:27

year old black preacher who's

34:29

a slave preacher. The Civil

34:31

War hadn't started. He's

34:34

been screwing all of the babes in the

34:36

church, and he's gonna

34:38

preach from eighteen sixty

34:41

to nineteen ten. when

34:43

the preacher takes over from him in

34:46

nineteen ten, assuming one of these

34:48

old Southern

34:50

Black churches, he's gonna do the same thing is

34:54

daddy did, in this case,

34:56

his predecessor.

34:58

He's gonna screw all of the

35:00

women and the grand mothers

35:02

on great prep. Mother's of the

35:04

church are gonna be used

35:06

to it. and this dude

35:08

is gonna be preaching from nineteen ten to nineteen

35:10

sixty. So in nineteen

35:14

eighty, the

35:16

preacher that took over in nineteen sixty,

35:19

which

35:20

still have. another

35:23

thirty years to

35:26

preach. And they would

35:28

he would be in the position of being

35:32

the grandson effectively

35:32

of the slave preacher. And grandson

35:36

is doing what dad

35:40

did, what granddad

35:42

did and I screw all the chicks

35:44

in the church and when you

35:48

ceded it. you

35:50

see it once your eyes get open.

35:53

It's

35:53

like, we know about germs.

35:56

Right? So if you

35:58

know somebody's

35:59

read restaurant. The floor looks clean and

36:01

some food drops on the floor. I

36:03

mean, maybe you wanna go over the five

36:05

second rule, but most of us will let's

36:07

throw it away. But some

36:09

people on this clean floor, let's eat it, and all their

36:11

germs down there. See, when you know

36:13

what the germs

36:14

are, you have an idea,

36:18

you can see stuff that other folks don't

36:20

see. And, yeah, we

36:21

have these suede Pampers. And, yeah, there

36:23

was a Willy Lynch

36:26

and it was more than a letter.

36:28

It was a whole

36:29

bunch of them. I went through

36:31

about

36:31

twenty five of

36:34

his Pampers. See, he sold these things and they brought

36:36

him around the British colonies

36:38

to give lectures on how to raise

36:40

slaves for

36:42

foreign pride.

36:43

to kind of

36:46

evolve and talk

36:48

about today's level of slavery

36:50

within the music industry. three in

36:53

particular. Oh, yeah. That was the only brother.

36:54

One thing I gotta show

36:56

you, I don't wanna call out this, but

36:59

questions that I would

37:02

ask is what's happened

37:04

to the black music industry.

37:08

See, I remember, is

37:10

this stuff involved? Mhmm.

37:12

Now, ordinarily,

37:16

a trend in music for the twentieth century lasted five

37:19

to ten years,

37:20

and it was gone. Something

37:22

replaced it.

37:25

But hip hop

37:28

rap,

37:28

that's been

37:29

going on fifty

37:32

years. What's going on with

37:34

you you be

37:35

innovative. But

37:37

then again, the money

37:39

behind this and whoops, I

37:41

don't wanna go just

37:42

somebody caught me, may had not met in

37:44

caught me, but some

37:47

people upset is

37:49

the is We've

37:51

got a problem now

37:54

with emasculation, and it's

37:56

not just us, it's spread around

37:58

the western

37:59

industrialized world. not

38:01

so much Russia, East or

38:03

China. But

38:05

all of these

38:07

jumbo has from

38:09

Japan, Rome, Berlin, Rome.

38:15

Sydney,

38:17

Australia,

38:19

Tokyo. They have

38:22

mask

38:22

units, problems

38:24

too because it's so suppressed.

38:27

They wanna see

38:30

masculine stuff. So when they

38:32

see gangster

38:34

hip hop rap video that looks

38:36

masculine, they want it. and

38:38

it's a very lucrative foreign market. And

38:40

you can go to Berlin,

38:42

Moscow,

38:45

sit in Tokyo, and you

38:47

can see how popular

38:50

American rap or

38:52

hip hop is over these

38:55

other places. And

38:57

it sells well, but

38:59

they don't dance. too well.

39:02

They still do that jump up and

39:04

down, technical name stuff.

39:06

But they don't want things to change

39:08

so the people that run the finance

39:10

don't want the music

39:13

to change and they dispense

39:17

the patronage, the distribution, the

39:20

advertisement, and that kind of

39:22

thing, the bodes that they

39:25

can use in an international market there is very

39:27

large money. So there

39:30

is a

39:32

discouragement of innovation

39:34

because they want this

39:36

this proven form into

39:38

the continuum, you know, what is it? If

39:40

an ain't broke, don't fix it. Yeah.

39:43

So I look at

39:46

it as

39:46

okay.

39:48

Is this two days

39:51

old? two weeks old, two months old,

39:53

two years, two decades old, what

39:55

I'm listening to. I had a little

39:57

interest in paying with some young

39:59

brothers

39:59

and other company

40:01

thirty four years ago, they were telling me, oh, man. Just

40:03

this here. It said yes. I continued

40:05

to

40:05

turn her from nineteen

40:08

sixty one. Well,

40:10

God's sake. That's sixty years ago. You

40:13

think

40:13

that's him? Oh, yeah. Man,

40:16

it's deep. Oh,

40:18

and you go into a night club.

40:20

I'd still dance. I'd throw

40:22

down, really. I can't. who

40:25

would that have been, but I walk in a night club and I say,

40:27

you know, it was bad here everybody from

40:29

twenty one years old and

40:31

get up in here. to

40:33

seventy five, eighty one years old can do the

40:36

same dance as baby not as

40:38

well, but they know what they're doing and they're

40:40

familiar with

40:42

the music. there is no way in hell. My

40:44

parents would have been

40:46

familiar

40:46

with what I was

40:48

doing. all we would have

40:50

expected them to be familiar with what

40:52

I was doing, what I was twenty something. Let

40:54

alone what their grandparents were

40:57

doing. But, you

40:57

know, nowadays, you listen

41:00

to the elevator music,

41:02

and

41:03

I'm gonna manage. all

41:05

man. Smokey came out with

41:07

that nineteen fifty nine. So did

41:09

I obtain that one that people don't

41:11

even recognize. That's

41:14

in nineteen. sixty

41:14

one James Brown. Who's that?

41:17

I don't

41:17

know. Never

41:20

heard.

41:20

no word because it

41:22

don't recognize it, but it is the

41:25

same.

41:26

So we need

41:28

some create activity, and we

41:30

need some break away. And you guys

41:32

are gonna have to get up off

41:34

this shit. Right? You don't wanna rock

41:36

the boat. You don't have to rock that tail

41:38

out of it. and start

41:40

putting some message out there. Mhmm.

41:42

I can remember the thing I we

41:44

used to dance too back nineteen fifty

41:46

nine. Got it. I've shot it out. I you ain't anybody talking about

41:48

it. Got a job now? No.

41:53

Jeff camping and selling,

41:56

moving grams, and god

41:58

holes running.

42:01

Yeah. Sure.

42:04

I wanna get your thoughts real quick

42:06

on rep on reparations.

42:09

reparations

42:11

You

42:11

think it would

42:13

ever happen?

42:15

no No.

42:16

It already did. January sixteenth

42:19

Nineteen sixty five, General

42:22

William to Concerts Sherman,

42:24

signed an order in

42:27

his military district directing

42:31

that

42:31

each

42:33

freed,

42:34

married, black man

42:36

see forty acres of confiscated rebel land

42:38

in one army mute. His

42:42

only superior

42:42

general Eulicity sensor

42:46

grant. Actually, Simpson, ulysses Grant,

42:49

but they reversed it.

42:51

US grant, approved

42:54

it, president Abraham

42:56

Lincoln approved it. The

42:59

house and the senate approved

43:01

it and financed

43:03

it. was

43:03

working well than Lincoln got

43:06

assassinated. Mhmm.

43:08

And a Democratic president,

43:12

Johnson, from Tennessee took over, and

43:14

he decided he did not want his

43:16

buddies to lose their

43:20

land And in June eighteen sixty

43:22

five, he signed an order

43:24

revoking that. He could because

43:26

it was still a military district.

43:29

and he was commander in chief. He tried to

43:32

bring it back up. Bring it back

43:34

up. It didn't

43:36

work again. my grandfather, I remember

43:38

him talking to him. I read a

43:40

journal and left me. He was born in

43:42

eighteen fifty.

43:44

and he

43:48

was about fifteen when that

43:50

forty acres in a mule

43:52

came out need limited that they had brought that up two or

43:54

three times. My parents have all

43:56

been dead for twenty or thirty

43:58

years

44:00

depending upon which one it is. And I remember

44:02

them telling me that they brought it up, and

44:04

this is the third time in my

44:06

lifetime when they brought

44:08

up rest preparations. It would be

44:10

good, but they owe a

44:11

lot more than what they can

44:13

afford to pay.

44:16

So

44:17

so one other thing we

44:19

have

44:19

to consider the downside that's supposed

44:21

to negate this reparations,

44:23

which I take

44:26

But -- Right. -- how much?

44:28

Is it big money? Or is

44:30

it just little junkets? Mhmm. Gonna

44:33

be services. Right? revitalizing

44:36

affirmative action, which did a

44:38

whole lot and young brothers, you have

44:41

no idea. How many black

44:43

folk got their stuff together fifty

44:45

five years ago behind affirmative

44:48

action. And by the way, there were

44:50

some black folk to killed

44:52

it off. with that boxy thing with some black

44:54

medical students who got an agreement that

44:56

they would be letting in

44:58

even though they didn't qualify

45:00

for either.

45:02

other factors that indicate an ability to just succeed, and

45:05

they didn't wanna be rated

45:07

on how much they'd give back because

45:09

they had no intention. they

45:12

collaborated, showed that Bocky could be a successful plaintiff.

45:15

And California didn't even defend

45:17

the case. Right? So

45:20

I mean, aside from

45:22

stuff like that. Let's go back

45:24

to this whole thing. If we

45:28

get reparations, What do you think

45:30

is gonna happen that's gonna hand it to your head?

45:32

Here's your

45:34

nigra

45:36

jut. for

45:38

your

45:40

negro

45:41

reparations. They're gonna

45:44

shut

45:44

up a bureaucracy. They're

45:46

gonna track you. They're gonna know social security,

45:48

date of birth, where you'll

45:50

live, bank accounts, all

45:53

of your business. and

45:56

somebody wanted to run a

45:58

supersized tuskegee

46:01

experiment or now

46:03

know who's got those

46:05

chips. his downside. And I

46:08

told him somebody, I said, man, you know,

46:10

who's gonna qualify? Are they gonna

46:13

impose DNA tests? Oh, no,

46:16

man. That's just sitting up a

46:18

biological warfare thing in the back

46:20

fold. Right. Man, would you

46:22

think that? They don't do it. They give you the

46:24

damn shit. for free? Oh,

46:26

you have have my family set. Uh-oh. No.

46:28

malware they're

46:29

going after

46:30

folks to put them in jail for

46:34

COVID nineteen fraud. Yeah. Whether the

46:36

time changed, y'all went out and bought all them.

46:38

I did the shit issue, made me

46:42

be enough. Now you won't get upcoming

46:44

reparations. If I even

46:46

smell the success, I'm gonna buy

46:48

up a whole bunch of interest in

46:51

athletic shoe places. So I can get

46:53

all your money when you come in and

46:55

buy a pan every color

46:57

every time for you and all your

46:59

children and your boyfriend.

47:01

Yay. Come on

47:04

now. I wanna

47:05

talk about Gujell

47:08

did Rohit. That was

47:10

powerful. Yeah. I wanna I

47:12

wanna get your thoughts on hip hop

47:15

media and narrative that being spun. Like,

47:17

for example, Lori, was when

47:19

he got interviewed on the Brexit club was

47:21

where he apologized and the allegedly just some

47:23

people in play within the Brexit thing.

47:25

Let me say this. Yes, sir.

47:27

I think that was a punk ass move.

47:30

Mhmm. And I'd

47:30

like to know who was behind. See,

47:32

I know about black boy. that

47:35

you see, I broke in and I

47:37

had this show for fifteen years,

47:39

this TV show, but I was in

47:41

my fifties. And

47:42

I had a life I've

47:44

gotten the youngest person in the world on death row

47:46

off death row after taking

47:48

it to dark and so supreme

47:51

court. I had tried a whole bunch

47:54

of murder cases. Forty

47:56

two capital murder cases

47:58

is a defense lawyer. and more

48:00

that didn't ask for the death penalty.

48:02

I'd been on the criminals being

48:04

selected to two eight year terms.

48:06

I was doing a lot.

48:08

So I know about getting a job, but you

48:11

see Hollywood cry to

48:14

control you because they're not

48:16

about money

48:18

dear about an agenda. Now here's something that moves

48:20

forward. Don't know. They talk

48:22

about judge, duty, and judge,

48:26

math is and judge

48:28

Maybelline. They talk about

48:30

Oprah Winfrey and Doctor

48:32

Phil. Guess

48:32

who had the highest ratings?

48:35

shut

48:37

your breath. I

48:39

was stepping all over oprah's feet. She not

48:41

I'm not oprah. I've been

48:43

beaten over behind every

48:46

week of the year of ratings

48:48

year for the last

48:50

several years. It was doctor Phil Oprah Winfrey

48:52

Judge Judy and Judge Joe Brown

48:54

in his Select

48:56

four

48:56

show.

48:59

sanctioned, PBS

49:02

syndication. They tried to knock

49:04

me down so badly. They wouldn't

49:06

even put me in

49:08

TV guide. in Los Angeles, California.

49:10

People called in a Wednesday show.

49:12

And every time I started

49:14

beating Judy, they would act

49:17

to size a different option.

49:19

Nielsen would give them for the two of

49:21

us, but they never would exercise

49:23

it for me. in the southeast where he played me at

49:25

nine o'clock, ten, eleven o'clock at night. I

49:28

was beating every shoulder.

49:30

Number one in the readings for an

49:32

hour for

49:34

but they didn't want that. I tell you something that you

49:36

should do if you ever deal with a

49:38

corporate entity. Buy a share of stock.

49:41

and get a hold of their corporate

49:44

newsletter. They can allow they want to

49:46

you. But if they lie to

49:48

the shareholders,

49:50

they're ten years in a federal pen of entry. So

49:52

we'll see what they say. They were

49:54

saying the judge Joel

49:56

Brown showed Outstanding,

49:58

it has contributed to

50:00

CBS having an unprecedented

50:03

fourteen straight quarters

50:05

of financial growth. The top last four have been

50:07

the highest in the history of CBS. Thanks

50:10

in large part to the judge

50:12

Joe Brown

50:14

TV show. and

50:15

he's slowed down, honking ass

50:17

clowns, but telling me all the other things are

50:19

really going down. Everybody's taking me

50:22

yet. We're all got paid to touch you

50:24

with damn man. Last

50:25

month on the eleventh, you got

50:27

a goddamn razor. This is what

50:30

you

50:31

the got. Wow.

50:32

Supposedly, for being involved

50:34

with my show so screw you.

50:36

So they wanted me to take a massive eye

50:38

with you, and you had to put a side,

50:40

a hundred, a hundred and fifty k every year, so you could get them

50:42

audit done on the books as to

50:44

what they were stealing from you. and

50:47

I

50:47

tell you something else. The only

50:50

way you will get a square deal out of this

50:52

entertainment industry is to

50:54

have a certain percentage of

50:57

the unadjusted gross from

50:59

the first dollar. Otherwise,

51:02

these bastards will teach you out

51:04

of it. and they

51:06

will stab you in the back

51:08

and then they cut

51:10

each other strokes and then grit about

51:12

it and ships

51:13

broadly in New Orleans

51:16

season trackers, you know,

51:18

sitting on the level of hosiery

51:20

and a five star

51:22

rest of hotels

51:25

bar area. And

51:27

I

51:27

tell you what, too. Let's

51:29

look at something else. They make

51:31

us pay the

51:32

debt. Black

51:35

Panther.

51:38

Disney ABC

51:39

badly needed some

51:42

money why they jacked up some wafer in

51:44

this thing so you wanna

51:45

be a millionaire. So the

51:48

people that felt the grieves sued them

51:50

for about seven eight

51:52

million dollars. Well, they've

51:54

won and see ABC

51:57

and Disney kept appealing. And finally,

51:59

they got through the federal system. went

52:02

up to the nine member

52:05

or court of

52:08

appeal for the

52:10

nine circuit It's an interesting opinion. It starts

52:12

off. It seems that

52:14

this industry

52:17

does not recognize rule

52:19

one, an American

52:22

contract law, and that

52:24

is all parties are expected

52:26

to deal with each other

52:29

Well, taking

52:33

the language

52:36

is straight up and be honest, in

52:39

good faith.

52:39

Okay. So they said

52:41

we'll fix that. So they

52:43

raised the judgment from the

52:45

requested seventy eight million

52:48

dollars to five hundred and eighty million

52:50

dollars. She that was in two

52:52

thousand eleven and

52:54

the United States Supreme Court

52:57

refused to hear it, so it was a fur, so there's

53:00

no appeal. So the

53:02

plaintiffs hold liens against all

53:04

ABC property in

53:06

the country and all Disney property. And

53:08

most of the rides at

53:10

Disney were all down in Florida and a

53:12

lot of them at Disneyland that had

53:14

everything that

53:16

came out of it other than operational

53:18

expenses going through to the plaintiff. So they

53:21

couldn't pay the interest in

53:24

the judgment had risen

53:26

over a billion some

53:29

dollars.

53:29

So

53:31

Hollywood has very little cash. They do a lot

53:33

of rest of prostate and

53:36

exchanges and

53:38

all of this other stuff. So he

53:40

came up with the the black panther

53:42

mood. My sources tell me they

53:45

were discussing it in the

53:48

hallways about predictably how they

53:50

could get black folks who pay

53:52

a lot of money. Now, what did

53:54

they do? They got a phone in line.

53:56

I

53:57

used to hear them discuss it when my

53:59

show was

53:59

with Paramount. Now,

54:00

the form of this interesting. Wait.

54:03

Let's take

54:04

that movie.

54:08

the worst thing in the movie was that last

54:12

battle. The the

54:13

men and

54:14

the women that it tried

54:17

trying to kill each other. Mhmm. The women

54:18

committed treason by propping

54:21

up the

54:21

old pamphlet

54:24

that killed monger

54:26

had defeated.

54:27

Kill monger didn't have any

54:30

super drug in him to give him super

54:32

strength. He beat me. Fantastic.

54:33

A Panther's ass. Yes.

54:36

Band squared threw him off in the

54:38

water. The guy survived. Well,

54:40

the baby's committed treason against the rules of

54:42

the the culture,

54:44

and they

54:44

go to help it. Now who did they

54:46

do who did they go to

54:50

to enlist in their effort

54:52

to overthrow the now

54:55

rightful king, kill

54:57

king, kill marker. to my

54:59

best idea. some black

55:02

folk who live where

55:04

it snows all

55:06

the time. in

55:06

caves, cavemen, and

55:09

this is supposed to be

55:11

an African aware, Mount

55:14

Kilimanjaro draw on the other

55:16

side of the continent from

55:18

Yeah. You

55:20

see? And

55:21

then they don't have

55:23

any black man can fly that virtual fighter plane. You gotta get

55:25

a white CIA guy to do it.

55:28

Mhmm. And you

55:28

don't see any black me

55:31

in doing damn thing except in the

55:34

background as spectators are pushing the

55:36

cart. They got that guy with

55:38

the big lip disc in who some

55:40

kind of preacher stand in

55:42

you. He got that, but the mama

55:44

runs things, the hunt runs

55:46

things. His

55:46

bodyguards, actually his keepers

55:50

who tell him and tag him about

55:52

what to do and not to do. Can

55:54

he run around in some tanks playing

55:56

a vigilante? Now

55:57

till longer, meanwhile, his

56:00

daddy was the brother of the past

56:02

king and what was he doing? They

56:04

listed him as being in some

56:06

projects, public housing on

56:08

the West Coast, and he's

56:10

trying to teach these boards how to

56:12

be met. So he

56:14

gets killed because he wants to take the

56:16

technology that

56:17

you got you

56:20

kinda has. Mhmm. walk on the

56:22

head, whatever the hell the name

56:24

and and use it to

56:26

subdue Africa and take over the

56:28

whole world and

56:30

impose peace. So he goes through MIT. He

56:32

graduates at nineteen's rocket

56:34

scientist. He becomes a

56:36

senior. He's so badass to give him

56:38

a nickname. kill

56:40

monger. He plans plots

56:42

and gets his head

56:42

together for revolution. He's supposed to be

56:45

the bad guy. They have him

56:48

talking with Frederick

56:48

Douglas said, Marcus Garvey

56:50

said, the boy said, Malcolm

56:52

X said, a little of

56:55

what Martin said, what a brown

56:57

brown shit. And then they to the building, and they got older, you go

57:00

black kids and black women.

57:02

Hey. They're cheering for him to be

57:04

put down.

57:06

No. So

57:07

they make him the

57:08

villain. And

57:09

in the comic

57:11

book, kill

57:14

monger is a person

57:16

that engages in illicit

57:18

drug sales and fake traffic

57:21

a king where the Black Panther who sounds like

57:24

kill mother in the

57:26

comics goes from Africa to

57:28

Harlem to go deal with him because

57:30

of his international

57:32

influence negatively on black folk.

57:34

They split the script all

57:37

the way around. And

57:38

in the final things, you know, when you have one of those

57:41

Marvel movies, if you wait

57:43

through the credits, you'll get more to

57:45

the movie. And then finally, the

57:48

back powder

57:49

is telling all these white people in

57:51

the UN that they're gonna

57:53

help them. And the guy says, excuse

57:55

me, would do specs,

57:58

sir. Why in the

57:58

world would we be

57:59

interested in what some

58:02

backwoods agricultural place has

58:05

to all fronts?

58:06

See.

58:07

So I mean, it it's like that

58:09

was predictable. And I'm so

58:12

angry about one

58:14

bad circumstance. and

58:15

not so much that it was the

58:17

highest grossing

58:19

superhero movie of

58:22

all time. but out

58:23

of every city in

58:26

America, the

58:27

highest growth for

58:29

box office came out

58:31

of Memphis, Tennessee. Wow.

58:32

The largest

58:33

predominantly black city in

58:36

America. And they had for

58:38

buying a twenty five,

58:40

thirty, fifty tickets at a

58:42

time for parties they

58:44

organized two and three

58:47

weeks in advance. and you can't even get

58:49

them out to organize saving their own neighborhoods like

58:52

that. Right. So

58:54

I understand.

58:55

tam, they ripped this off.

58:57

And then I got the word back. They were rejoicing.

58:59

Yeah. We got the

59:01

the African American bunch once

59:03

again bailed us

59:05

out. See, that's

59:06

how these folks got established

59:08

more than fifty years ago.

59:10

The moving

59:11

industry was going

59:14

bankrupt in the face of TV.

59:16

And every Thursday and

59:19

Sunday, every movie

59:21

theater in America had two

59:23

new movies plus cartoons

59:25

and a sub

59:27

feature. And that made the studios come

59:29

up with several hundred movies or

59:32

productions a year. they couldn't afford

59:34

it in the face to call it TV.

59:36

So they got a bright idea and

59:38

they had all these noobies

59:40

who were part of this cabal that came in, and they said,

59:42

look, let us post

59:44

something for you. One, instead

59:47

of having two new movies every

59:50

Thursday and Sunday, let's

59:52

keep the movies as long as people

59:54

will come.

59:56

And let's tap all of this case out there

59:59

in

59:59

underrepresented

1:00:01

community. We wanna deal

1:00:03

with a black community.

1:00:06

called ourselves black then. So what did they do?

1:00:08

Said, we're not

1:00:09

going to give them all of these

1:00:11

things. We give white

1:00:14

people because they can't see

1:00:16

themselves being leaders and

1:00:20

businessmen all of this, that and

1:00:22

the other. we need

1:00:24

to appeal to the lowest common

1:00:26

denominators. So let them

1:00:28

be caught up

1:00:30

in our glorification

1:00:32

of pimps, hose, drug dealers,

1:00:36

gangs, murderers, burglars, and

1:00:38

every kind of podcast, whatever we can think

1:00:40

of and get all of their money. And then

1:00:42

they had, what, it's

1:00:44

Black Caesar, had

1:00:46

a football player, a friend to have a week. And

1:00:48

he played this road dealer who

1:00:51

was also a hit man and

1:00:53

he rides off into the sunrise,

1:00:56

smoking a big cigar

1:00:58

after they they shoot out in Long

1:01:00

Beach and no LAPD

1:01:03

no sayers. and nothing in the places full of

1:01:05

dead folk after they shoot

1:01:08

out. Alright? And then

1:01:10

eighteen months later, they have, what is it,

1:01:12

shoot or flash? brought

1:01:14

oatmeal with a wheat

1:01:16

on top and an air press

1:01:18

driving a pimp mobile, selling coke.

1:01:20

Yeah, man. We gotta get into this

1:01:22

coke, man. That's some deep

1:01:24

shit man and freaky

1:01:26

and dead, but Superfly

1:01:30

is what it is. And Rod O'Neil's character, they

1:01:32

do four more, five more movies

1:01:34

in the franchise, and everybody

1:01:38

switch from wearing Daeshikis and Afros

1:01:40

and Beards. Now, raw

1:01:44

colored plates formed, you

1:01:46

know, fried egg again,

1:01:48

driving Pimp Mobile. So I'm like, yeah,

1:01:50

man. My dad came, man.

1:01:52

And the FBI started flood in the

1:01:54

neighborhood with Coke and --

1:01:56

Mhmm. -- and

1:01:56

you got the Jackass and Chiefs

1:01:59

sitting in the

1:01:59

White House. in nineteen seventy seven and seventy

1:02:02

nine and eighty one

1:02:04

with John b

1:02:06

Stennis and Eastland,

1:02:08

James o, Eastland, and Bird. All

1:02:11

these racist clansmen, they started

1:02:13

putting stuff in

1:02:16

place. in Biden was going around saying, one rep will

1:02:18

get you five years in

1:02:20

the federal pen of victory. And

1:02:23

that means divorce, sixty

1:02:26

months. not just a few months. What about

1:02:30

you know,

1:02:30

and you

1:02:32

got that crap going in because that

1:02:35

came off free base. Then you

1:02:37

gotta take crack at

1:02:40

it on a bite and

1:02:42

something. Right?

1:02:45

No way. And you see

1:02:47

that dude's teeth, man, damn.

1:02:49

He must have been doing

1:02:52

crystal meth two on top of the

1:02:54

crap. And he's he's riding his

1:02:56

hill. Like, he came out

1:02:58

to middle aged or something. Some

1:03:00

went down on a country

1:03:02

asphalt, down in a walk somewhere

1:03:05

down

1:03:08

in Vienna. I

1:03:10

kind of got a two part question to add on to the

1:03:12

whole Black Panther thing. One will

1:03:14

be part two of the movie.

1:03:17

It seems like it's like a woman thing going on with that, especially

1:03:19

the cover, and then the death of Chad with

1:03:22

Bozeman. They say he

1:03:24

died from cancer. Obviously, it looked like a do you

1:03:26

think Chad Yeah.

1:03:28

Could you speak on

1:03:30

that? Well, let me put it

1:03:32

this way. You see the movie. Daddy

1:03:36

Robinson,

1:03:36

forty two?

1:03:38

Uh-huh. See

1:03:38

the one

1:03:39

on Third Good

1:03:41

Marshall? Uh-huh. see

1:03:43

the one on Joe Lewis.

1:03:45

Uh-huh. Did you

1:03:47

see gods of

1:03:50

Egypt?

1:03:50

Didn't see that one, though. You see

1:03:52

it? Okay?

1:03:53

Somebody plays the flamer

1:03:55

in that who is the God

1:03:57

of wisdom. I mean,

1:03:59

just flame. you

1:04:02

can feel the heat all the way back in the seventh row

1:04:05

of the theater. That's part

1:04:07

of this thing where they

1:04:10

identified the parks,

1:04:12

not with the character, but the actor.

1:04:14

So they're trying to push

1:04:18

fluid gender. So this same person plays a bad

1:04:20

ass boxer, a

1:04:22

hell of a lawyer and civil rights

1:04:26

activist who used to be

1:04:28

known as mister baseball because he always cared to baseball bat.

1:04:30

He was notorious for warm

1:04:34

somebody's head. That's their good marshal,

1:04:36

and he always had a

1:04:38

requirement when he went someplace,

1:04:40

had me a twelve

1:04:42

gauge and cart

1:04:42

and a buckshot. So comes to that,

1:04:45

we can deal with it. And

1:04:48

mister baseball, number

1:04:49

forty two,

1:04:52

forty four forty two.

1:04:54

Yeah. Mhmm. And you see

1:04:56

the

1:04:57

you can

1:04:59

be flamer. be boxer,

1:05:03

baseball player, you can

1:05:05

be brilliant sky. That's

1:05:08

what they did, or you can be

1:05:10

super hero.

1:05:11

So that's what they

1:05:14

would do. Right? And -- Yeah. --

1:05:16

this movie, the next

1:05:18

one coming

1:05:20

up, It's

1:05:20

like woman came.

1:05:22

Yeah. That's really poisonous.

1:05:24

You know what the story

1:05:26

is behind that

1:05:28

First off, there was no woman king. They

1:05:31

had a queen,

1:05:32

but there was an active king.

1:05:34

There were three brothers. blood

1:05:37

brother blood can and

1:05:40

dawn.

1:05:41

and And they

1:05:42

were were

1:05:44

trouble

1:05:44

nobility. Well, the tribe in question

1:05:46

was playing, paying tribute

1:05:49

to the Yorba, the europa

1:05:52

up north of them in Nigeria. So

1:05:54

they hooked up a deal with the

1:05:56

WAVO, the Dutch and the English, to

1:06:00

supply

1:06:00

supply large number

1:06:02

of slaves for

1:06:06

them. What they

1:06:07

did did

1:06:09

is interesting.

1:06:11

they had

1:06:13

every guy

1:06:16

who

1:06:17

was an official or

1:06:20

a war chief

1:06:22

countered by a

1:06:23

woman counterpart who was

1:06:26

close to

1:06:26

him by kinship or

1:06:30

something. and the king kept the women

1:06:32

in the court with him

1:06:34

so he could control. and

1:06:37

he gave each woman

1:06:40

veto power over what their

1:06:42

male relative or Ken

1:06:44

did as an administrator or as

1:06:46

a war chief. so

1:06:48

he could keep things under control.

1:06:50

He would not allow any

1:06:53

of the African

1:06:56

aristocrats to participate so there would be no rival.

1:06:58

And

1:06:59

he did set up

1:07:02

a small

1:07:04

unit of Amazon's

1:07:06

to go around and try to

1:07:08

do a little police work or

1:07:10

report back to him. So that

1:07:14

continued for quite a few decades when the

1:07:16

slave trade was going on. When

1:07:18

the Europeans said no

1:07:20

more

1:07:20

slave trade in the American in

1:07:23

the constitution said no more

1:07:26

slave importation after I

1:07:28

think it's either eighteen o seven

1:07:30

or eighteen o six. somewhere

1:07:32

the eighteen o eight, they decided to suppress

1:07:35

it

1:07:35

and they quickly fell. So

1:07:37

there was

1:07:38

no woman king anyway. But

1:07:41

what they did is the feminist

1:07:44

glorified this to get people used to

1:07:46

the idea. And

1:07:49

they are glorifying some

1:07:52

people who were enslaving

1:07:54

a lot of their fellow

1:07:56

Africans. Not saying it wasn't

1:07:58

done, but they ramped the

1:07:59

process up. an

1:08:01

analogy would be, let's

1:08:04

supposing, Jewish women decided

1:08:06

that, okay, women aren't

1:08:09

being honored enough for

1:08:10

being aggressive. Let's pick a German

1:08:12

woman in World War two even

1:08:14

if she happened to be a Nazi

1:08:19

in she was rounding up Jewish people and sending

1:08:21

them the concentration camps.

1:08:23

Let's honor her. Well, that's

1:08:25

the equivalent of what they did

1:08:27

with that movie. They

1:08:30

picked a woman who was in a position and her

1:08:32

confederates who

1:08:34

were in a position

1:08:36

because they

1:08:39

were promoting slavery,

1:08:41

not

1:08:43

as for reality. Deep.

1:08:46

Very

1:08:46

deep. In the building right now with judge Joe

1:08:47

Brown -- Yep. -- straight cooking man, shout

1:08:49

out to Maurice

1:08:52

Duncan Man. brother

1:08:54

can set this, John. I'll definitely appreciate everything you got going on. Yeah. Maurice is the hell of your brother. I like

1:08:59

him. Yes, sir. Just wanna end

1:09:01

on the light. No. We definitely appreciate you and we'll let you have you back on, but don't wanna hold too much of your

1:09:03

time. A lot of people throughout time has definitely done

1:09:06

some funny ass and impersonations of

1:09:08

you. Are

1:09:10

you, like, the type of brother that enjoys those,

1:09:12

or did you take offense to any of them?

1:09:14

They they crack me up. I am joking.

1:09:17

But before I say that, there's two things.

1:09:19

I'm

1:09:19

delivering service and selling

1:09:21

sauce these days. Yes,

1:09:23

sir. JJBBBQ

1:09:27

that's judge JJBBQ

1:09:30

that's

1:09:31

barbecue. JJBBQ

1:09:34

dot com. Go there and get

1:09:36

you self some,

1:09:38

you'll find it's the best sauce you've ever tried. And we have it going out on the shelves

1:09:41

in California now.

1:09:44

We'll be spreading

1:09:46

across the country. You can order

1:09:48

yourself the stuff online. I'd suggest at least three

1:09:50

bottles you save a lot on the shipping cost.

1:09:55

and we designed some paperwork

1:09:58

with a large

1:09:59

online business that

1:10:02

delivers in these electric

1:10:04

trucks. So we're going that

1:10:06

way. And the other thing is, I'm semi retired.

1:10:08

I

1:10:09

don't need to

1:10:12

work except for amusement to

1:10:14

keep myself occupied and doing the right thing, but they've taught

1:10:16

me into running

1:10:19

for me or of

1:10:22

Memphis, Tennessee next year. So I filed a treasury's appointment, and that's

1:10:25

gonna be JJB

1:10:30

for mayor of Memphis, Tennessee

1:10:32

in twenty twenty three. Right.

1:10:34

Spin Brown downtown if you

1:10:37

wanna take back your

1:10:39

attacks. So it's JJB twenty three. Let's take

1:10:41

it back and we can make

1:10:43

this city can make do city

1:10:46

america a mecca. for the United States of America,

1:10:48

especially for powerful. And

1:10:50

I wanna completely revise

1:10:53

the way the police department is structured.

1:10:55

We're not gonna have any

1:10:58

of ineffective civilian oversight.

1:11:01

We're gonna have civilian control

1:11:03

of the police department. Mhmm. Like you

1:11:05

see with the Pentagon, you

1:11:07

got civilian commander

1:11:09

in chief. You got

1:11:11

a civilian secretary defense,

1:11:13

Army,

1:11:14

Navy, Air Force. We'll have civilian directors, sub directed,

1:11:17

homicide, uniform

1:11:20

patrol traffic except

1:11:23

for juvenile. I'm gonna set

1:11:25

up some community arbitration

1:11:27

panels where lawyers aren't allowed to

1:11:29

practice something like what I did

1:11:31

with my show. so we can

1:11:33

get people an opportunity to have peaceful resolution of

1:11:36

conflict rather

1:11:39

than popping caps on themselves. I'm gonna do youth counseling.

1:11:41

I'm gonna talk to him. I've

1:11:43

got some programs and some

1:11:45

people, not so much programs,

1:11:47

but the people. where

1:11:49

we're gonna put manhood in some of the wood be birds heads. So

1:11:52

they become sources of

1:11:54

community order instead of

1:11:56

this order.

1:11:59

I'm gonna sink some hydroelectric

1:12:00

turbines and generators down

1:12:02

in the Mississippi River,

1:12:04

so we will

1:12:07

have free electricity and we can

1:12:09

bring industry in here jobs and big time payments

1:12:12

and time payments

1:12:14

and

1:12:15

hourly wages. we've got

1:12:17

Ford Motor Company forty five miles outside

1:12:19

of downtown Memphis and Cadillac a

1:12:21

little bit further. And in

1:12:24

five years, they're

1:12:26

gonna be hiring close to fifty some

1:12:28

thousand folk in this area. And

1:12:30

I wanna get that brought

1:12:33

into making memphis

1:12:34

the new Detroit

1:12:36

for America for the twenty first

1:12:38

century because California says nothing but

1:12:41

electric cars and I think it's about

1:12:43

fourteen more years. And in twelve to fifteen, the largest car

1:12:45

manufacturer said it will

1:12:47

not sell any thing

1:12:50

but electric cars after that point.

1:12:52

So I want this to be the

1:12:55

point where we get all

1:12:57

to that industry. We

1:12:58

have barge traffic where these

1:13:00

barges are loaded up in Europe,

1:13:02

put on ocean going barge transports,

1:13:05

brought

1:13:05

across the mid Atlantic to the port of New Orleans. They dropped the

1:13:07

hatches and bring the barges up

1:13:10

the Memphis, which is

1:13:13

the distribution center of North America for

1:13:15

Canada, US, and Mexico. And everything else, no

1:13:17

matter

1:13:18

where it comes in, has

1:13:21

to go through here, let's bring

1:13:23

it here directly where it's

1:13:25

cheapest. So we wanna bring in

1:13:27

more industry from Europe raw

1:13:29

materials where they can

1:13:31

be manufactured here with electricity sale from New Orleans

1:13:33

to Louisville to Chicago and

1:13:35

all other points. make

1:13:39

a hell

1:13:39

of a profit about it. And another

1:13:41

thing, when Asia

1:13:43

makes these cars

1:13:44

these cars Korea

1:13:46

with Hyundai and, you

1:13:49

know, Japan, Toyota. It's

1:13:51

a bushy Lexus, you

1:13:53

know. hot, then all of

1:13:55

that. Instead of shipping it from there to

1:13:58

there the

1:13:59

West Coast, to the

1:14:02

Port of Long Beach in and go

1:14:08

through the Indian Ocean, the Suez

1:14:10

Canal, the Mediterranean, and then up to Memphis where they

1:14:12

get directly into center,

1:14:14

and they don't have to

1:14:17

ship it two thousand miles

1:14:19

by train from Long Beach to Memphis to get into distribution

1:14:21

there. We can have a

1:14:23

great thing here. and

1:14:28

and, you know, one

1:14:30

of my former law

1:14:33

associates and at one

1:14:35

point, part

1:14:35

time public defender in my courtroom for

1:14:38

ten years is now the new

1:14:40

juvenile court judge, and I didn't

1:14:42

know he knows how to get

1:14:44

it together. So we're gonna have

1:14:46

a hell of a reform, and we had somebody woman noted it in the most

1:14:49

crooked d a

1:14:52

in America. got out as

1:14:54

turned out by somebody new, and maybe there'll be some changes

1:14:57

there. So

1:15:00

we we we

1:15:01

could make this place half.

1:15:03

I wanna do something else. Instead of making proud do this,

1:15:06

I wanna set up

1:15:08

through the

1:15:10

mayor's office, which Tennessee law will allow a community militia communities

1:15:15

militia so

1:15:17

we get

1:15:18

retired, first responders, veteran, and the good citizens

1:15:23

in our neighborhoods two who don't mind

1:15:25

the tending drill once a month, they'll take one

1:15:28

dollar for it.

1:15:30

They don't even want

1:15:32

that. from what I'm being told and

1:15:34

we can organize and have them go out and back up the police and

1:15:36

do the same thing where

1:15:38

they get dads and school

1:15:42

where they impose order in the school because there are some men in there

1:15:46

me neither who were

1:15:48

setup

1:15:49

to do their thing and given the power and authority to

1:15:51

do it. So we can turn stuff around and there's

1:15:53

a lot more to the neck, but

1:15:55

I don't wanna take

1:15:59

up too much time so we can

1:16:01

hit it and get it

1:16:04

together. Now come

1:16:06

to Memphis. instead of welcoming some of

1:16:08

our young folk who was saying, hey, man. I

1:16:10

forgot his man. I had to get the

1:16:13

hell out of it. I want you to

1:16:15

come back. Right. We're gonna make this the

1:16:15

place to be. And by the

1:16:18

way, this entertainment thing with the music

1:16:20

industry, moving

1:16:22

in the street. There is no reason

1:16:25

why the hell Memphis

1:16:27

predominantly black has got to

1:16:29

focus on the office. we ought to

1:16:31

be subsidizing black enterprise here.

1:16:34

They just the

1:16:36

city council does,

1:16:39

okay, two hundred and forty

1:16:41

two million dollars to a hotel

1:16:43

chain that's

1:16:43

already down there to

1:16:46

finance their expansion for

1:16:48

tourism. Wow.

1:16:50

Most of the people

1:16:52

that never ain't tourists, we could use

1:16:54

the money for black economic development,

1:16:56

white, black, brown,

1:16:59

red, yellow, small business men in,

1:17:01

whatever, and we can sink any money

1:17:03

into other banks developing

1:17:07

and from what they're doing right now with a Canadian bank that's

1:17:09

locked everything up here, so

1:17:12

we can get these

1:17:14

banks to be able to in credit financing and

1:17:16

whatever, the other people beside

1:17:18

the ones to

1:17:19

get all the griefing. So,

1:17:21

I mean, there's a lot

1:17:23

we can do. Absolutely. Yeah.

1:17:25

Definitely. A legendary interview with a legendary man. We definitely appreciate you judge

1:17:27

Joe Brown on the hip hop and

1:17:30

sensor podcast. We would love to have

1:17:32

you you

1:17:34

know, whenever you're available again, man. Definitely appreciate it. Get

1:17:37

with your young brother, Martin. She you've

1:17:39

got by that and he'll

1:17:41

get it. Sure. you

1:17:42

guys wanna talk to me sometimes about

1:17:44

life and things that Yeah.

1:17:47

Can't

1:17:47

say on. Yes,

1:17:49

ma'am. types

1:17:50

of places, statute of limitations hasn't

1:17:52

run, you know. And I still have

1:17:54

people wanna after me because I was

1:17:56

the last judge on that. James Earl

1:17:59

Ray Mader. Yes,

1:17:59

ma'am. Had he hadn't died,

1:18:02

I would have written an

1:18:04

opinion that he was not the

1:18:06

killer. And in fact, the FBI supplied the murder

1:18:08

weapon, the ammunition,

1:18:11

and

1:18:11

recruited the two man

1:18:13

team that killed him from

1:18:15

the fire station. not the

1:18:17

flypiles and not the museum. That was one of my questions.

1:18:19

I was gonna

1:18:20

ask you that, man.

1:18:22

Yeah. Well, I thought you were

1:18:24

going to

1:18:26

everybody likes to. And it's a

1:18:28

shame that this colored caucus

1:18:30

is out to, oh my

1:18:32

god. Yeah. BI do you realize

1:18:34

what the FBI is -- Yeah. -- and they got created before War one

1:18:37

to go after

1:18:39

the first black world

1:18:42

heavyweight champion. Jack Johnson, because the white women

1:18:44

liked him too much. In fact,

1:18:46

he

1:18:46

wound up with a white, white.

1:18:51

So they were they set up the FBI

1:18:53

to do the studies to get what they

1:18:55

call the man act. Now

1:18:57

you may recognize the

1:19:00

man act. they went after r,

1:19:02

Kelly, with it, and they convicted him of it amongst other things. Yeah.

1:19:05

So

1:19:06

Jack

1:19:07

Johnson got arrested when

1:19:09

he was on a train with his white, across

1:19:13

the

1:19:14

Georgia. fifteen

1:19:17

minutes on the way to

1:19:19

a Seaport. When they stopped, the NACIT FBI jumped on board

1:19:21

and arrested him because at

1:19:23

that time, Georgia said

1:19:26

you couldn't have a white, white. And they

1:19:29

said under the man act

1:19:31

that was transporting females

1:19:34

across state line for illicit purposes. So he got convicted.

1:19:36

He escaped. Brother

1:19:39

escaped from federal custody. and

1:19:43

fled to Europe where he was in France for a long

1:19:45

time until his mama did one of

1:19:48

those crazy

1:19:52

things. I want my boy to be back.

1:19:54

I wanna see him one more time. So he snuck back in the United States, got

1:19:56

caught, had to serve

1:19:59

this time,

1:19:59

got out. got

1:20:01

killed in a car wreck

1:20:03

in grandparents

1:20:04

in my parents and my grandparents

1:20:08

thought Oh, Jack Johnson, like

1:20:10

most of us think of Mohammed Ali. So, I mean,

1:20:12

he was the brother that

1:20:13

nobody could whip him, and he

1:20:16

was whipping I

1:20:18

mean,

1:20:19

these flights would be forty eight and

1:20:21

fifth I think he fought

1:20:23

one fight, fifty four rounds,

1:20:25

and he might put

1:20:27

the folks down. mean, couldn't anybody

1:20:30

that he'd be grading when he would not infocus out.

1:20:34

You know, Yeah. That right. Oh, brother.

1:20:36

Go ahead. You know,

1:20:38

this is, like, it might

1:20:41

it my There were a

1:20:43

lot

1:20:43

of people younger than me that were

1:20:45

black and been

1:20:46

alive during the civil war

1:20:49

is grown for. And

1:20:50

they were going gas. Yes. You know?

1:20:53

I mean, this

1:20:54

was heroic. White women aside,

1:20:57

you know. And at that

1:20:59

point, we all had this thing

1:21:01

about white men taking whatever black

1:21:03

woman they wanted to

1:21:07

have and you know, when I first started practicing here fifty years ago,

1:21:09

I'd get up in the rural areas

1:21:11

of Tennessee.

1:21:15

yeah And Everybody was brown and dark

1:21:17

in

1:21:17

the family, and they got somebody with

1:21:19

brown hair. Nobody

1:21:23

shed anything because Mammo was coming back being

1:21:25

a maid and some white boys were coming home from a

1:21:28

football game drinking beer and they

1:21:30

decided to get them some black

1:21:32

milk So,

1:21:34

you know, I wouldn't anybody upset about

1:21:37

that. Yeah. Return the favor,

1:21:39

man. Yeah.

1:21:40

At all. By the way, I

1:21:42

grew up in Memphis for

1:21:48

fifty years. got

1:21:49

sent here on the JOB. I had a fellowship, I had a Howard

1:21:51

community lord, fellowship. I didn't

1:21:54

go to Howard Law. I

1:21:57

went to UCLA law. Got here.

1:21:59

Little resume. I grew up in

1:22:02

South Central Law's hands. I just

1:22:04

went John

1:22:06

Mead junior high school, a

1:22:08

little bit of manuals, and then

1:22:10

I went to Dorsey High, then

1:22:13

I went to UCLA. get

1:22:15

some substitute teaching. And if anybody

1:22:17

is listening, by the way, go down

1:22:19

the seventy ninth and west

1:22:21

and down into hoo at and

1:22:22

go to Dee's original takeout

1:22:25

reel with chef

1:22:28

Damon's

1:22:28

egg. does

1:22:30

catering for all of the black

1:22:32

celebrities out there. He will give you that

1:22:34

barbecue cooked up either pig, cow, dog

1:22:39

chicken. Well, I

1:22:41

don't know about duck, turkey,

1:22:43

lamb, goat, fish. on go

1:22:46

your name, it does green,

1:22:48

good stuff. Take it out,

1:22:50

human joy. Again, that's a little

1:22:52

sail, you know. I don't

1:22:54

Yes. I mean, we we vacation

1:22:57

money, you know. I and

1:22:59

I'm single. So, you know, I

1:23:01

Yeah. You're like the ladies. I ain't as good

1:23:03

as I used to be, but most of the

1:23:05

time I'm better than I ever

1:23:08

was. Okay. the

1:23:10

o g chat show, Brown --

1:23:12

Yeah. -- dropping gems on a podcast. So we definitely

1:23:14

appreciate you. We're gonna get in contact with mister

1:23:16

Duncan and definitely have you back going soon

1:23:18

because the topics that need to be discussed that other platforms are scared to do. So we

1:23:21

appreciate you coming on and doing everything for us and thank

1:23:23

you very much. And aside from the program,

1:23:25

you just wanna chat, man, I

1:23:27

can give you some filling that you

1:23:29

might be able to use y'all. You'd have to give me credit for it.

1:23:31

Ask him from another. Send me

1:23:32

a text. Let me

1:23:34

know who you are also. I

1:23:38

can get my phone to let you come through. But, anyway, man, it's been fun.

1:23:41

Yeah. So I

1:23:44

have to artificating, but that's what

1:23:46

we owe for. Dude, we gotta spread what we know for, we stop breathing. You know?

1:23:49

No. We

1:23:51

appreciate it. We appreciate the wisdom and

1:23:53

pray that we get it one more

1:23:55

time, man. Thank you, Joshua Brown, and

1:23:57

hip hop is at the podcast. So loop.

1:23:59

Thank

1:23:59

you, sir.