Jialu tells the story of Lisa Montgomery, a woman who was “baby crazy” and faked multiple pregnancies after being sterilized. She met a pregnant woman on an internet forum, murdered her and kidnapped her unborn baby. She pled not guilty by reason of insanity but has become the 3rd woman to be sentenced to death in the USA. Cherlyne and Jialu discuss the use of the insanity plea and the ethics of the death penalty.