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a full rebuild my you definitely

1:03

have to enjoy your roster and

1:05

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breath. Urology The show now that's know as

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if the athletic dhaka. it was really weird.

1:49

like. A new we were taken

1:51

a week off a Super Bowl. And.

1:53

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1:55

plan things. you don't realize how the week

1:57

stack up because they're also. they're like oh

1:59

yeah, you're left the cat never know that

2:01

it's hawaii. Yeah, why. But.

2:04

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2:06

pod together late last week but that you actually

2:08

did such a good job. Putting. Together

2:10

though isn't But right now nami serious. Like I

2:12

didn't expect that we are back I knew to

2:14

in the kill williams of that I didn't know

2:16

that you're the talk to the always other writers.

2:18

While the other quarterbacks was great I love listening

2:20

to us for our luggage isn't good the like

2:22

sweet I'll see in any this is great. But.

2:25

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2:27

this week. I really, oh I know the

2:29

kill Williams ups are gonna blow up. blew

2:31

up with people. makes you listen to the

2:33

other one too because those interviews were very

2:35

good. Lot of good information in there aren't

2:37

a good job as you are, especially after

2:39

what we heard today. Study. Those

2:41

other quarterbacks? yes yes go study them.

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studies him off the third you to

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tease for your run down. that. I.

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I actually get on a golf course. Other

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day I wore my organs on poll for

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the first time since the fall. And

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are I know and I'm loving an absolute

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with. I'm also distracted because Panthers head coach

3:34

Dave canals new head coaches but fifteen feet

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from us right now and I think he

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has passed. Matty refuses the and a fell

3:41

head coach most likely to pass you on

3:43

the street that you would never even recognized.

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3:48

walking into the room there was a group of people.

3:51

And. I could tell they were importance or they

3:53

were like wow in him. That's what caught my

3:55

eye to. but if you just by wider which

3:57

one I was like which one of you is

3:59

somebody. Yes, And then I

4:01

got to him, were all canals? So what's

4:04

the list? it's canals is on there. That

4:06

Taylor as itself, loose with the beard he's

4:08

got out of this category. With.

4:10

The pictures of with a press conference last week

4:13

went viral. Now the. And. He looked

4:15

he looked good again today. I'm.

4:18

So. Brian Kelly Other Titans had goats.

4:21

I. Still feel exact he was on

4:23

the list him even though he. Has.

4:26

Been successful in the play offs. And

4:29

shows up the local bars and Cincinnati after big

4:31

wins to celebrate with the fans which is awesome.

4:33

If mike we gotta walked in right know it's

4:35

you know who he was. That's

4:38

another one. That's another good one to.

4:41

Father. Random. Coaching

4:43

hires assurances of for but that's why would

4:45

people there are many refers to in the

4:47

Bears. Hired him very much. Looking forward to

4:49

the the annual team picture at the I

4:52

phone and are you see Foods is Jackie

4:54

and has certainly valuation of it. That goes.

4:57

Viral. Every as the up though that's

4:59

true as you are it let's get

5:01

into our what's been a busy day

5:03

Tuesday. The com I though is the

5:05

busiest day in terms of actual bears

5:07

content. They com thou Ryan polls talking

5:10

this morning. Matty Brief lose a little

5:12

bit after that. Ah, Let's.

5:15

Just start with is like what. What?

5:17

Stance was your biggest take away or are

5:19

they gonna fight a trade partner for a

5:21

just down her? That's what I gotta be.

5:23

number one. You. Don't talk that way

5:25

about your starting quarterback. You for keeping them. You.

5:29

Just don't' Yeah, It's

5:31

I. Know he couch things. Sometimes

5:33

I'm like a we gotta. Talk.

5:36

About the number one pick to and book.

5:39

That. That's a stuck with

5:41

me like we've now post. To his

5:43

credit, Is more candid and

5:45

head on at addressing topics.

5:47

Their ass tomb. Than.

5:51

Most. Gyms in the entire league

5:53

probably arm and certainly Gm that we've

5:55

dealt with in the past. But.

5:58

I still with you like they're still. Oh.

6:02

Other ways to sort of dodge

6:04

questions like that. Then Brooks was.

6:07

you remember the narrative last year

6:09

was somebody asked him last year.

6:12

Is. It the same thing was fields and everyone pick

6:14

as what you saw the other season which is you

6:16

would need to be blown away. To.

6:18

Move on. That was the narrative. The bears and be

6:20

blown away. You. Know. By.

6:22

A quarterback. To. Move on.

6:24

Now It's like. The. Bears will need to

6:27

be blown away. To. Move up number

6:29

one path and and they still might

6:31

trade just into that. I would say

6:33

the Bears are already blown away by

6:35

this quarterback classes trying to figure out

6:37

which one is the best. Sit for

6:39

them and number one or. Number.

6:41

Two Or something like this. Guy.

6:43

Dot E o it is is he said

6:45

hug. It's always tough because with were asking

6:48

the questions. To. Write employs about

6:50

Justin Fields and a theoretical sense

6:52

of what if you trade him.

6:55

But if. You if you're not

6:57

gonna trade. The. Guy who's been your quarterback

6:59

for the past couple years. You just say. I'm

7:02

not entertain those questions Justin's or Court. It's

7:04

not even acquaintance right? That's the point that

7:06

is. The point is that there are questions.

7:09

The doors. I better here and everything's on

7:11

the table and road or back. but they

7:13

are it. It's I'm. Appalled as

7:15

if I am and of repeat couplings the

7:17

seventies show earlier but. The

7:20

reality is like I remember sitting here in the

7:22

same as I grew last year doing the same

7:24

type shows. The bears were in the same exact

7:27

situation except the quarterbacks are just different. Than.

7:29

The number one pick. they just feels as the quarterbacks.

7:31

The only thing as different as the quarterbacks are different.

7:34

And. The vibe that came out of our fifty

7:36

one session with Ryan Polls and and some

7:38

of the interviews he did also locally. Can

7:40

around your these not doing this year. The

7:44

conclusion was there are trading Just it. They're.

7:47

They're going to trade the pet. And this year

7:50

just feel like the complete opposite of that will

7:52

their teams are in different situation. I like how

7:54

coaches like to separates the seems by year and

7:56

this year and as you make a lot of

7:58

sense because last year. It made sense.

8:00

Keep just and seals the trade at first pick

8:02

and try to build that to surround just feels

8:05

but the entire roster him there is such a

8:07

better place right now I know it to make

8:09

arguments about this then the other but this defense

8:11

of the second half of the season with the

8:14

top five the sense you have the gym or

8:16

he of coconuts vs two young tackles there's players

8:18

him place. For just the

8:20

fields or. The. Most likely

8:23

scenario that next quarterback Any

8:25

other biggest difference is. Have.

8:27

You got a full moon. Nother year of

8:29

tape on just feels. Reddit. All

8:31

get into a marriage proposal saying

8:33

about evaluating quarterbacks. But. When

8:36

you listen to it. And. Then

8:38

you cross check that. With. What

8:40

they've seen from Just and Feals we've all

8:42

seen from Just Feels. Like

8:44

there. Are still question marks about what he

8:46

can do? In. Those critical

8:49

situations. And there's gonna be

8:51

question marks if they assuming they drove somebody who's

8:53

going to be question marks about that guy to.

8:55

The. You know, sell a that we still

8:57

what won't We won't know if whoever they picked

9:00

going to be better. That's his, that's his. Other

9:02

stuff works but I do think like that's the

9:04

other big difference. Uses the quarterback classes better and

9:06

you know more about the quarterback you have. That.

9:10

Let's hear from polls on a couple of these

9:12

things. I'm the in the first when we have

9:14

for as you is just more on the field

9:16

side of things fields the situation. What Ryan Paul

9:18

had say about that. First. Page

9:20

for my situation. Contrary

9:23

to reports out there I no master

9:25

plan to present of on today is

9:27

opportunity for us to continue to gather

9:29

information learn about the didn't players in

9:31

the draft com listen to what other

9:33

teams could come up arm and then

9:35

as soon as they were going to

9:38

make the best decision that we can

9:40

for the struggle bursts I will not

9:42

be based on fear of what could

9:44

happen with this were to happen with

9:46

that will put our information and other

9:48

to make the best decision. Between us

9:50

and they while we throw a decision making

9:52

against cover for some a deal which is

9:54

when save richardson sustained success for losses of

9:57

times as a lot that goes into that.

10:00

We're excited to gather information

10:02

and for clarity on. What

10:05

is it was sure if you decide

10:07

to draft a quarterback what is your

10:09

motivation The princess and for for food

10:11

and start smelling the for my. Yet

10:14

again it just depends on what obtuse

10:17

papa I will say this I'm is

10:19

you know me well enough now I

10:21

do if we go down that road

10:24

our do right by just as well

10:26

or no one was a living very

10:28

I'm another uncomfortable I would want to

10:30

be in a situation either so I

10:33

will gather the information, will move as

10:35

quickly as possible, regime in a rush

10:37

and see what presents itself and was

10:40

best known as as as of this

10:42

is how family knows me That. You

10:47

had conversations with him out where you

10:49

guys are right now Yes I've always

10:51

felt and I sort of amiss after

10:53

of the season when we had are

10:55

estimating said you know transparency and communication

10:57

is key in these moments and I

11:00

saw them. We will do that So

11:02

I've been in contact with his semen

11:04

it on a lesson let them know

11:06

what we're looking at, how things my

11:08

play out. And that

11:10

will continues as nice as move forward

11:13

again. I understand how uncomfortable. That is

11:15

for him. Again like

11:17

I told him and he understands as

11:19

he said it's ability to is for

11:21

this business it is unique situation so

11:23

for ya continue Their communities are the

11:25

game as you want to know what

11:27

he wants tomorrow. In

11:30

all seriousness though of before diet or will

11:32

have the know soon as possible from the

11:34

and I would love to know that I

11:36

know the how the process works. You

11:40

know this serve the forefront of soon as

11:42

he did are just that I'm also doesn't.

11:45

Know if we were to do something with

11:47

just a most I wonder I buy him

11:49

and I know again within an angry space

11:51

and with wanna do something sooner rather than

11:54

later on. Which is like I

11:56

have my contract with these two teams to figure

11:58

that out. When

12:00

he them are also trying to figure out the draft

12:02

process as well as a lot of different things with

12:04

different on was going on. That's what makes him a

12:06

ride is it? So that was kind of the beginning

12:09

part of his opening statement. Ah, I'm. Not.

12:11

Claiming say here you're nothing. Nothing big

12:13

to reveal. I thought there were some

12:16

interesting. Com. As you highlight

12:18

a one on twitter shortly after

12:20

the press conference, specifically when it

12:22

came to. You know how his

12:24

teammates might take a trade. For. Just and

12:26

seals which is another thing It's like even just the

12:28

fact that we're that for down the road that were

12:30

answered questions like that a significant but his answer was

12:32

also in a paraphrase he now because I don't have

12:34

it up or funny but. He

12:38

says. Or. That's.

12:41

My job related to deal with that in

12:43

I have to think about the long term

12:45

as they. He. Straight up

12:47

says i don't think they do that. And.

12:49

It's also not their job to do that and

12:52

they're sticking up for the quarterback which is good

12:54

and speaks with calls her locker room but that

12:56

was a pretty telling quote. I thought. They

12:58

have use. I'm talking about Ryan Polls,

13:01

Kevin War and Married for Flus. Different

13:03

versions of long term doesn't? terms of.

13:06

That. Will those exact words were having

13:08

a longer view of things multiple times

13:11

in their season ending press conferences or

13:13

whether that House Hall or here other

13:15

looking at the long term and that

13:17

is it every time I hear it.

13:20

I. Just think of the financial implications

13:22

that having a rookie quarterback and you're

13:24

roster does just for roster construction. Beyond

13:27

this, your dirty great spot financially with

13:29

eighty million. In. Cap Space. But.

13:32

Now when you like look ahead of

13:34

project ahead with having the rookie quarterback

13:36

good one on. That.

13:39

Affordable deal. Like there's so much more

13:41

roster flexibility the to gain over the

13:43

next self several years not just this

13:45

year which are forecasting for Twenty Twenty

13:48

Five Twenty Twenty Six Twenty Twenty Seven

13:50

Estimates are talking about terms of being

13:52

to since consistently competitive a rookie quarterback

13:55

contract Obesity selective to write rookie quarterback.

13:58

His. Contract will help you provide. suppose. Yeah,

14:01

anything to you talk about. Polls.

14:03

And long term his theme since he

14:06

got here has been i want to

14:08

sustain success was everybody says what He

14:10

made it clear he goes this team.

14:13

Yet. Thousand and one fell off. Two

14:15

thousand, five or six fell off. Twenty.

14:18

Ten. Off twenty eighteen, right? He

14:20

doesn't want to keep doing that. He wants

14:22

to try to build something like he came

14:24

from Kansas City. That is it. That's the

14:26

upper echelon, but it's everybody's golf. And.

14:29

Your part of part of doing that

14:31

is making sure you have the right

14:33

quarterback who can get you to that

14:35

spot. Sister option for Just and Seals

14:37

is over twenty five Million dollars an

14:39

hour and I get in in terms

14:42

of quarterback contract business on a lot

14:44

of money. It's not fight for a

14:46

quarterback who ranks statistically in a bottom

14:48

third of the league and very important

14:50

category. Sometimes the bottom five of the

14:52

league forgets about a third the bottom

14:55

five quarterbacks the league and subcategories can't

14:57

pay just feels that much. Money. and

14:59

twenty twenty five, you just can't It doesn't

15:01

make financial sense and that's the thing that

15:03

like matter So much of what part by

15:05

the league itself on the cover is that

15:07

one team situation might be completely different from

15:10

another team situation. So if you're desperate enough

15:12

for quarterback and you're have the access to

15:14

one of these top. Couple. Guys

15:16

like. The. Bears and

15:18

commanders do and may be considered patriots

15:20

to as if you like to daniels.

15:24

You're going to be more desperate and you

15:26

can be. and you can also look at

15:28

Justin, feel situation and justified. You know what

15:30

compare to have any go out like. Overpay.

15:34

For Baker Mayfield or something like that

15:36

thousands of the officers hindering, you know,

15:38

and maybe those guys would be a

15:40

little bit passing. Kirk's case. a little

15:42

bit more stable. Fields

15:46

for a different team could be a bargain like

15:48

that. Contracts even picking up the fits your opposite.

15:50

Even say the arrive in his do one your

15:52

flight. We're gonna wear it as big as a

15:54

two year experiments and word and look at the

15:56

money. We split it up over two years. Really

15:59

not that bad. What we would have

16:01

to Guam pay. Kirk Cousins will take this

16:03

flyer that that can beat both of those

16:05

things to be true at the same time.

16:07

Like the Bears reality can be completely different

16:09

from the Pittsburgh Steelers reality. for example, Denver.

16:11

Broncos the right. Las.

16:14

Vegas Raiders to their else had a ten hit.

16:16

Let's it's very important point the Bears have the

16:18

first pick in the ninth pick. Their.

16:21

In the driver's seat of this entire

16:23

draft and of course draft start with

16:25

quarterbacks as questions about the Bears current

16:27

situation so you know they have a

16:29

look at every single one of and

16:31

especially the top five players will wonder

16:33

why in the Rye imposes use his

16:35

last year. Or. The you it was

16:37

we're talking to us jersey and the owners

16:39

meetings about the trade Draft picks are opportunity.

16:42

right? But you have to. Make.

16:45

You got your take advantage of a very bright

16:47

got to get a Ryan. it is very important

16:49

the way eerie and he gets that. Damn.

16:51

Sure average Am says they get it, but I

16:53

do think that he understands like just as we

16:55

have these pics, we have to still do all

16:57

this work. To. Make sure we get

16:59

it right and what thing that you know? I've.

17:02

Been talking about we top of the valuation. Because

17:05

I'm starting do this today. Like.

17:07

I'm over analyzing the snow. There.

17:10

Right in I think we're going to be

17:12

here. You mean over analyze what a quarterback

17:14

today or just in general widowed or not?

17:16

overlook analyzing. Up like

17:18

might it might. Maybe maybe Yesterday I'm thinking

17:20

like it's it's Caleb. Where. It will

17:22

need a widow you have to the song and

17:24

dance lisa to use in the polls. You think

17:26

about what's ahead this week in all different things

17:29

are going be doing organ here from Caleb Williams

17:31

and all things they're going to be doing in

17:33

their fifteen minutes and then they're going to the

17:35

private workouts are these are sitting there and you

17:37

think about how much they have to get this

17:39

right. and then he started his. Think.

17:41

About all these different quarterbacks Scenarios.

17:44

And. If you eat, you certainly can

17:46

lead yourself down a path. Where.

17:48

It doesn't have to be. Tailbones,

17:51

The. I think the question if I were to

17:53

phrase it is will The Bears. Scouts.

17:56

Themselves out of jail. Blames that make sense

17:58

Like don't insult talking. Sells out of

18:00

it like Over Stout themselves out of

18:03

Killed Williams which he turns out to

18:05

be the right move or. Could

18:08

be something to fear that every

18:10

fan I just i. That.

18:14

Honestly I think some of that is over analyzing.

18:16

I is a my research gel I believe it

18:18

is totally over analyzing. I think this is pretty

18:20

clear cut and dried. I honestly when I predictions

18:23

of this week and I think I've already seen

18:25

it a couple places is I think there's gonna

18:27

be. More of a

18:29

separation started be built between Caleb Williams

18:31

and Drag Made that already exists. Because.

18:35

It and it would have maybe been all over more

18:37

it's seen if we som throw this week was help

18:39

her daughter was one hundred and other quarterbacks. As

18:42

a separation or at least in my opinion,

18:44

there is where Big Jaden Daniels in Jersey

18:46

Mccarthy goes. Yes, you are. Yeah,

18:49

Why? Why? Are you

18:51

so High And Drag Race? I'm.

18:54

I'm high on tail blooms mostly due

18:56

date is won the Heisman seat in

18:59

Daniels is I Like your Nails are

19:01

a Group that is Mccarthy won the

19:03

national championship up by put Tj my

19:05

much wrestler. They saw that yeah about

19:07

third I'm retired. It's over thirty two,

19:10

thirty one percent of and is brilliant

19:12

ago. Michael number one. Two

19:15

of us when Jim Harbaugh to Marbles exists ago.

19:17

Number One more about heard enough. To.

19:20

A gym Her on the spy view the number one put

19:22

pick would you really? Would. You draft a man.

19:24

I. Would I would potentially wager Portillo on Jersey

19:27

Mccarthy be the top ten pick? Turning your

19:29

Portillo by Adobe or foothills? Yes Yes. Lost

19:31

some parts hill. I'd never felt better about

19:33

foretells but you say lose My know I

19:35

was stunned when I heard this huge we

19:37

have to sell and the hogan Jesus was

19:39

you as a the bet you guys do

19:41

it so some roosters might not know who.

19:43

Greg Greg says. In. Them and

19:45

they know of with brags with

19:47

some reason a stance that was

19:49

you don't know. A

19:52

little he was. Some.

19:55

Dirt know. oh I don't. All

19:57

by love Greg that dog. We.

20:00

We have follow Gregg I may know

20:02

as I didn't know Users can be

20:04

Greg's first Ryan Polls press conference. Get

20:06

and I did not think he was gonna ask a

20:09

question. I. Was very confident that he

20:11

was gonna ask a question. they when I showed up

20:13

at a press conference and he was a a does

20:15

I. Will you? Yeah, he of

20:17

easy I gave you an opportunity to win

20:19

your money back Reporting was backed by with

20:21

it's I had this But Kevin, go wait

20:23

for polls at the end of the hallway

20:25

by the J W Starbucks and walk with

20:27

them and get on television. And then I'll

20:29

give you your Portillo Best Yeah. I

20:31

was a monitor as quite an entrance as well

20:34

as far away to have to walk as Croydon

20:36

answers. So. Yeah how you

20:38

are already talking about getting about back before it

20:40

even you are technically last saw the ads. Yeah

20:42

yeah I don't want to have fun. This morning

20:45

it was minus one thousand. The greg was as

20:47

I will you are now known as minus two

20:49

hundred last night and it was minus one thousand

20:51

at about ten twelve am Eastern to while we

20:53

were in and I suits that we said oh

20:56

runner to have to I think I would have

20:58

taken the under who they went over vi three

21:00

he went over thousand other one of the last.

21:02

The bad guys are I think I'll core Krona

21:05

portals Also. For. The I'd I'd have I'd

21:07

the over under with her was three and a half

21:09

and I went under. And. Seven

21:11

old are by her to go for and three or

21:13

four. Pm. The.

21:16

Meal once, I saw three of us combined

21:18

for one. You know what? Sometimes.

21:20

It's good to just the saw at my strategy

21:22

that was actually my plane coming in today, but

21:24

there was one question I tried to get it

21:26

all. Running Backs. Said. It by else wants

21:28

thought were any other positions at any given point

21:31

summer Travis, homer or the only thing that sucks

21:33

about the so quarterback thing with poses with. We.

21:35

Typically hit on earth. A. Lot

21:37

of different things the up and.

21:40

Now. It was like someone just toss him

21:42

will. That was why wrath the end of

21:45

April Fool's Day. Like I guess the question

21:47

about safety and some stunning Korea. So wide

21:49

receiver like we got a little bit in

21:51

their labor. You're right, usually you're able to

21:53

get through like because I get an absolute

21:55

on the show and I'll keep saying to

21:58

address. This. Is the least. Talked

22:00

about number nine pick I think an Nfl

22:02

dressed as if we isn't the facts but

22:04

Adidas and we we will take your what

22:06

would your address years talk tomorrow will be

22:09

focus on them an offer to tackle certainly

22:11

we talk about the guys. In.

22:13

A wide receivers but. We

22:15

thought I was about how about a free to

22:17

see? We don't have a very busy at what

22:20

that's called wealth which is why I was trying

22:22

to get a question about running backs. yeah because

22:24

of his if is not that important. I know

22:26

it was a while later in the week but

22:28

this is shaping up to be a pretty good

22:30

running back free to see class because it doesn't

22:32

look like easier to read dirt or can be

22:35

tag like they were last year and the position

22:37

the Bears are in especially. Syrians,

22:39

Are going to be even more cap space and they

22:41

thought know the whole league will. Put.

22:44

At I just really maybe this is a rare

22:46

time where you. Just. Splurge on a

22:48

sec. One Barkley were doesn't really hurts you.

22:51

How about splurging on as. The

22:53

sense of an. Adequate. Whoa, what are U

22:55

s? My point is usually do but all about

22:57

and normally you'd be like well as spend money

22:59

on a running back here because that would run

23:02

attacker is that it away He's. On his

23:04

bit as a whenever he's never had worse than

23:06

a road lot of and Wheels of the Is

23:08

isn't. True. Well,

23:10

we're linebacker. But. Eat

23:12

by running back fits in that category, those

23:15

positions that nobody else bizarre, but me I

23:17

don't know I am, I guess you know

23:19

we. Look. Up the projected

23:21

numbers for what. Like. Sake one's gonna

23:23

go for, but I know the tag was around

23:25

twelve. May

23:27

not be twelve, I'd be twelve million for

23:30

sake what Born years while really a complete

23:32

back will you might have to do it

23:34

over to and maybe it's too eager to

23:36

for twenty four and may twenty guaranteed years

23:38

of death that it's Ah, that's why me

23:40

like and that would not hurt the Bears

23:42

future at all. Good point I would probably

23:44

war priority and a big deal for a

23:46

pass rusher though. I. Know, But I'm

23:48

saying we could do both in our house without

23:51

putting yourself in cap hell in the future. You're

23:53

really is that. That's good to me. If

23:55

there's a team as go spend lots of money and

23:58

really back yard look at of from like yours. You

24:00

have the luxury of doing so. I think the Bears

24:02

are one of the few teams that can say that.

24:04

I'll say this in terms of covering free agency here.

24:06

Is. What we've done with the Bears

24:09

your it fills. Better than hearing the rumors about

24:11

sending my Glennon. Or

24:13

that was an all time low carbon moment.

24:15

I was so that I agree that one

24:17

zero. The combine where the entire com by.

24:20

we're focused on three things: Are

24:22

they going to resign? Bros? Kill him? As a

24:24

recent Adrian A Most and where they can do

24:26

it? Ticker. At. Those a

24:28

toy nineteen com been over the kicker

24:30

work out. There. Are

24:33

bears people everywhere? The kicker for ditto.

24:35

Where to go up with? A

24:38

Here we are. We're talking where you,

24:40

we talk about real stuff quarterback. You

24:42

guys think you'll find a market here

24:44

for for just unsealed? you think so?

24:46

Last year. Ryan. Polls

24:48

drove home from Indianapolis

24:50

with. Frameworks

24:53

call frame we are in place where

24:55

we going to South Carolina Panthers and

24:57

coach walk by with subtitling a Panthers

24:59

in place for a deal that again

25:01

eventually got done. It matter it is

25:03

these I do you think? That.

25:06

There would be a deal in place

25:08

for just and fields here in that

25:10

seen. This. Is waiting. Feel free to

25:12

see plays out. And. Then that deal

25:14

is is made. You think the A framework

25:16

it happened down. Ah. I.

25:19

Think some significant discussions can up and down here.

25:21

I think the urgency cause I'm trying to think

25:23

of this from other teams perspectives. like last year

25:25

we'd new there's gonna be a lot of seem

25:28

the one of the number one pick we knew

25:30

that there will be a bidding war for and

25:32

I think we're still little unsure of. Law

25:35

I think just as gonna command enough to

25:37

get a second round pick. And. I

25:39

think that this could be more than one team

25:41

interested. A. Master

25:44

The urgencies can be quite. To. The

25:46

same level and urgency is what drives

25:48

of the market right. Early drive at

25:50

the market and participants. I'm still

25:52

trying to figure how many. Willing. Participants are

25:55

are for just how am I am I

25:57

question if you'll get to if Ryan polls.

26:00

Would. Get an accurate gauge on the

26:02

matter visit that the amount of participants

26:04

years and is Ryan Polls has to

26:06

be learning about what's the Kirk Cousins

26:08

situation? What's the Baker Mayfield situation because

26:10

those the are too but that civic

26:12

I am a new the yeah Darnel

26:14

yeah none of those the too big

26:16

on Flacco. Yeah no and that is

26:19

my So I do think that's why

26:21

I think the end. Of all

26:23

this results in of deal. For. Just

26:25

and I just. I'm really curious about

26:27

the timing. I'm curious about. You.

26:30

Know. if your team interests

26:32

and Josten. I. Don't know,

26:34

am I gonna? What was that? He might also be

26:36

looking to. Dj. Mccarthy at the same

26:38

time and and they are not gonna know

26:40

until draft. By the begin, get Judea Mccarthy.

26:42

So it's and I just think it's more

26:45

complicated as year was last year. like he

26:47

can literally put up a for sale sign

26:49

outside the Bear Sweet and Lucas Oil stadium

26:51

or the number one pick and in get

26:53

a deal done pretty quickly. I think it's

26:55

more complicated and then there's another factor was

26:57

we talk about. You. Know handle

27:00

in the locker room side of it's like.

27:02

If this drags on in April, And.

27:06

Is April fifteenth and you're just feel

27:09

vrt know he's annoyed with the situation

27:11

and understandably so. Do. Show

27:13

up to the building. At that point.

27:15

Yet two weeks so the draft. And

27:18

then isn't as that become a distraction does

27:20

not your quarterback that you openly talked about

27:22

trading. Isn't there in the

27:24

building? Me of all this off season work

27:26

also take place for guys get together in

27:28

California, Florida. What? that? It's it's

27:30

tosses. there's a lot of i'm so from

27:32

the foot so I guess I'm saying the

27:35

bears as I just feel like the bears

27:37

and we way more motivated to get this

27:39

done sooner than maybe other tonight I think

27:41

Cf free agency window. Will.

27:43

Be telling because I think some teams will

27:45

learn if they're out on Kirk Cousins. Here.

27:48

Death as the surnames All I I think

27:50

the market for Baker Mayfield was probably the

27:53

Tampa Bay Buccaneers and s really it. To.

27:55

Savvy where he wants to stay and grow

27:57

and try to become their quarterback. So. So

28:00

many quarterbacks to go around and

28:02

is talking about the draft. I

28:05

do think that some teams like

28:07

some level of certainty going into.

28:09

Just. To crazy unpredictability. Of.

28:12

The dress in the old if you're.

28:15

As. Is also Atlanta. View.

28:17

Trade for fields Me: you. Don't.

28:19

Have the midst of the mean you can't take quarterback and eight.

28:22

We. Saw we saw your What about Mike

28:24

Glennon Wrote. A third different. I just

28:26

think that that there's a wide as do. It seems

28:28

that like can be really confident when it comes to

28:31

draft with they're going to get who they want. With.

28:33

The things that you'd want Or the top three. Other,

28:36

I'm not ruin it out of the I think. I

28:38

think he could happen in the next few weeks, but

28:40

I just don't. Last year I felt way more confident

28:42

that the thing was gonna happen As a I think

28:45

we're even senior to about guess we thought. A.

28:47

Trade was going to happen before. Free.

28:49

Agency started, I just I don't know him. All

28:51

weathers we sort of humor weeks we have plenty

28:53

conversations to be had. this week arm and local

28:56

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28:58

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29:00

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29:11

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from polls on what he had to

32:25

say about Caleb than the quarterback evaluation

32:27

with with do their own in terms

32:29

of your said about evaluation emerges the

32:32

city council said that you know of

32:34

has more than two blades are eerily

32:36

similar when you watched as a D

32:38

C that is pieces Is this is

32:40

that a similar Obviously we want to

32:42

sort of the roses the for arm

32:44

and rules as as Izumi trade a

32:47

lot of guys can do that are

32:49

adjusting. His on

32:51

my team credit he he painted. A picture

32:53

of in other cities of quarterbacks

32:55

was artists and then they're surgeons

32:57

are so within that group is

32:59

in front of see who's artist

33:01

crude that's really creative of doesn't

33:03

draw within the lines were there's

33:06

more of surgeons who are you

33:08

know mature for full of the

33:10

brady's insane So I'm gonna bresma

33:12

of purchasing go from there. So

33:14

that's where this is in Missouri.

33:16

Percentage of prefer that artists insurgents,

33:18

no winners, concern and all that

33:20

over. Know

33:24

notices visited I I would love to

33:26

know why is that was the taste

33:28

but as as a. As

33:31

a young quarterback I've been around did

33:34

infrastructure is important and I think we've

33:36

made really to progress in terms of

33:38

ever really good infrastructure for whoever were

33:41

to come in north were so for

33:43

your processor the nexus with wouldn't see

33:45

of the race with used to evaluate

33:48

the wiring. Never did much

33:50

to to. The email us

33:52

went on and timeless. I mean.

33:55

Any have a relationship, you know

33:57

my time on task. I'm.

34:01

He tried to get them know the

34:03

personality com. There's been a ton of

34:05

information gathering from my team's his arms,

34:08

his teammates coaches things like that but

34:10

you gotta spend time with another for

34:12

Suez and the the wiring or you

34:14

are you trying to fill out an

34:16

aircraft were you looking for from that

34:18

sale of remembers of dependability? Listen, selflessness,

34:21

leadership, Ownership.

34:24

And is hard these days behind you for

34:26

that know hey this is wrong for yes

34:28

and was wrong as was due to crack

34:30

the rather than. Just kind of messenger way

34:33

through itself. With

34:35

Hamas has some of these guys.

34:38

So this was also one of my. Take.

34:43

Away from this. Say. That

34:45

you you properly about the Gm talking

34:47

about trading the starting quarterback and like

34:49

usually don't go in that. Typically

34:53

l one of the questions that. Brags,

34:56

Asked. That costs you

34:58

have some. Portillo was. Kevin.

35:02

A. Question like he asked. For

35:05

trying. To make a comparison. Between.

35:07

Player X and player Y no matter who

35:09

those players are. but maybe in particular. Patrick.

35:12

My home's been the cop

35:15

purpose in South totally relevant.

35:17

In. The situation because Ryan Polls was in

35:20

Kansas City and part of them whole

35:22

realize how Scouting director is a very

35:24

good question. but. I

35:26

would say ninety six out of a hundred

35:29

times and then of Lg ends gonna be

35:31

like I've I'm not in the comparisons. I

35:33

don't want to compare display or to that

35:35

player. On. His.

35:38

Response was a others pieces that are similar

35:40

is a unique is a unique traits. With.

35:42

A guy with their arm angles and the

35:44

zebra up a story about shifting, talks about

35:47

surgeons vs artists and like there's a real

35:49

answer and it's a good credit the polls

35:51

for being that type a guy was not

35:53

afraid, answers questions. I think it's great but

35:55

it also set out to me because I'm

35:57

like. Telling

36:00

them he says you're willing to entertain a

36:02

question about Kill Williams comparing of the bedroom

36:04

homes The Gm with a number one pick

36:06

in this year's Nfl draft did that this

36:09

morning. That seems significant to me. Very.

36:11

Very. Like. It's it's a

36:13

good knowledge of the reality. is that the major

36:16

like yeah we know is it is you know,

36:18

considered the best player in the chef. See how

36:20

we would probably consider him the same way. I

36:22

figure a few things up. What is pretty damn

36:24

good. When. You're

36:26

curling. Are you artists or

36:29

surgeons? Scientists

36:32

And now for your. Artist.

36:35

Or surgeon allowance or suffer pearl

36:37

info. Or

36:40

rates are home and was a surgeon and that thousand

36:42

very by saw that sorry I was I. Was.

36:46

Involved in Iraq? As if I sit.

36:50

Your I think it's It's funny because Ryan

36:52

polls he's from the beginning. He just barely

36:54

be more candid in these and his appearances

36:56

and you can a walk away as we

36:59

are narrowing. Oh well. There. You

37:01

go. But see yourself school while

37:03

though, as if if you're consistently tainted.

37:05

And. You're willing the answer questions like that

37:07

then we're still sort of less than the

37:10

same spot the area where we don't We

37:12

know we can read in the what we

37:14

can find it interesting but I don't feel

37:16

necessarily a different than I already did coming

37:18

into today. whereas I didn't feel Big Yard

37:20

Philly exact same if he does refused they

37:22

answer every question to which is nice that

37:24

actual quotes and content play for you guys

37:27

here on the show and it really doesn't

37:29

seems the in game and all I think

37:31

when he said that I was with set

37:33

out to me was. It.

37:35

Was like verification of what we already knew. like

37:37

they have already. Like Jump.

37:39

In Headfirst on this quarterback class

37:42

in. This just feels extremely different.

37:44

Like we're not talking about. Due.

37:47

Diligence, We're. Talking about

37:49

now artists in like surgeons like

37:51

this conversation has reached another level

37:53

I get to be combine interviews

37:55

me play out the same and

37:57

assisted beginning. But. I'd

37:59

like. There's been verification that I guess

38:01

this year's difference. Yes, we have number.

38:03

Overall pick, it's different. The last year

38:05

we are going to. Take our

38:08

evaluations of these quarterbacks to another level

38:10

because we have to in his opportunities

38:12

to So great for us to change

38:14

a franchise. They. Still could trade

38:16

Just feels. I'm. Sorry

38:18

this took a keep. Just a filter than one per.

38:22

Your mock draft him a mantra. all. My.

38:25

Mock Draft. Presenting.

38:27

The scenario. With. And isn't

38:29

that what? The Bears. Are

38:32

doing to Thirty Days Rivers. That Ryan Paul

38:34

scenario is looking to hundred different scenarios. I'm

38:36

sure that they're talking about all of us.

38:39

and as your part of that is your.

38:42

They're. If they're going to entertain the conversation

38:44

about keeping, just feel like what do we

38:46

need? To. Win. With.

38:49

Just some feals. and if we're going to keep

38:51

him we need X, y and Z and this

38:53

tray because we need this player. This player. this

38:55

player to put here here and here. And.

38:58

Then we move forward ever to they're still

39:00

paths for that. They want to do that.

39:02

No worries obviously Titan nausea about why we

39:04

don't think them. Would. Be the path.

39:06

But those. Mean there's not a path. I

39:09

like your March of Mythos substance. It's a

39:11

Supercar, the A thirty two and you get

39:13

all those guys, get all those pics you

39:15

the future picks and you pair it with

39:17

a team That was that when Seven anti

39:19

last year and a lot like about it

39:21

sir him. But by the way, like the

39:23

I as through Gg in there because I

39:25

I think the Bears have you know. So.

39:29

I have done homework on him and I think

39:31

there is someone a belief on of but does

39:33

mainly more point of a clean and the draft

39:35

whether he's their thirty two or not I still

39:38

the point of me doing that and trading back

39:40

in was and I and I do firmly firmly

39:42

believe this that the only scenario in which they

39:44

were to keep Justin feals they would come up

39:46

with another off ramp like they did last year.

39:49

Another pivot that there has to be a pivot

39:51

built in in. The biggest problem with trying to

39:53

pivot this time is nexus quarterback class and the

39:55

draft is not nearly as good. And

39:58

you may not have the first overall pick in terms. having

40:01

control, having certainty, which is

40:03

important for your own process. So

40:06

to me, if you're going to go down the trade,

40:08

the number one pick route, keep fields and add all

40:10

this capital, at some point you're going to use some

40:12

of that capital to come up with Plan B now.

40:16

Because it might not be available next year. And

40:18

the thing with fields too, and I don't

40:20

like to steal things from other podcasts, but it's a Dan

40:22

Patrick show, I think it's okay to mention

40:25

something Dan Patrick does. It's all been just to

40:27

call that a podcast. Show, show, TV show, watch

40:29

it every day. And then it leads right

40:31

into CSGO. Oh,

40:33

does it? Usually, sometimes. It depends on what

40:35

you guys are. That's nice, okay. It's a good lead-in

40:37

for us. Yeah. I got to

40:40

switch streams though. I got to go from,

40:42

you know, Peacock to YouTube. It's a little

40:44

frustrating. But the, one

40:47

of the things he brought up was this. If

40:49

you're Justin Fields, and let's say the Bears

40:51

say we're keeping you. Couldn't

40:54

you say to them, okay. And

40:56

they say we're just going to exercise your fifth year option and that's it.

40:58

Oh, I heard this. It was a good point.

41:00

It was a good point. So if you're Justin Fields,

41:02

you're saying, okay, you passed on CJ Stroud, Bryce Young,

41:06

Caleb Williams, Drake May, Jayden Daniels, Jayden McCarthy. You

41:08

passed on all those guys. And

41:10

Las Vegas Bowl winner, Ben Bryant, Northwestern University.

41:12

You passed on all those guys. You're

41:15

going to keep me, but you won't

41:17

give me a contract. You're not

41:19

going to commit to me. You're not going to pay me.

41:21

You're not going to pay me. You've

41:24

passed on all those guys and you were saying I'm

41:26

it. I'm the guy. You're

41:28

willing to just move on with two number one picks in

41:30

a row and say I'm the guy and all you're

41:32

going to do is exercise my fifth year option. You're

41:34

not going to give me a contract extension. No,

41:38

I love the logic there and it makes a lot of sense.

41:40

On the other hand, the easy

41:43

response from the Bears is, well, we gave you your fifth year option.

41:46

There were no hurry to pay right now. What are you going to

41:48

do? Not show up to camp. And Justin's going to show up to

41:50

camp. I don't think, you

41:52

know, but if he plays, if

41:55

He plays slightly better, but you're still sort

41:57

of in the gray after the 2020. For

42:00

season. And. The

42:02

urgency that the pale make a decision

42:04

becomes. You. Know there were more

42:06

urgent at that point. I do think at that point

42:09

yes you can use that as leverage by will wait.

42:11

I'm and you pass about all these people like what

42:13

it what are your options now? But what's most interesting

42:15

to me about that picture? That. Was. This

42:17

painted is it's more reason to

42:19

understand why the bears would move

42:21

on because there's no way the

42:24

bears as far as we know.

42:26

Would. Give just and fields of three

42:28

four year two hundred million dollar contract.

42:31

That. That would not happen. but if you're going

42:34

to keep him. Sixty Make

42:36

the argument that why wouldn't you right?

42:38

So there's a quote from he prefers.

42:40

That. A bite

42:43

their front of him and Susie starts talking

42:45

about what he's looking for, a quarterback and

42:47

such detailing a with thing I'm I'm Sarah

42:49

Here My immediate reaction in my mind was

42:51

like oh it's not just unsealed for everything

42:53

he was listing. Like. If you need

42:55

is another sign. Another indication that he was moving

42:57

on is our this is right here. That.

42:59

We have this clip from Flus. And. A

43:01

value in Cuba as a widow yet to

43:04

his players yes as black outlets for this

43:06

club here this is our is a good

43:08

point. Years of who's had a sale that

43:10

we don't have a series of reports going

43:12

to a system we ranked of rape those

43:14

ads are those rather for emergencies so that

43:16

those are always going to be there and

43:18

we always go back a year later and

43:20

say he will rewrite on these read in

43:22

a we have to adjust to sit as

43:24

a figure on each each prospect or but

43:26

I haven't looked at quarterback so my life

43:28

in Orlando what on what would have reported

43:30

that looks like and. what was hard on

43:32

the defense known a guy that has the

43:34

duty to your free or began has a

43:37

billion so or with timing and accuracy and

43:39

as the guys can move the ball on

43:41

the field when it's most critical moments of

43:43

on third down too many others critical moment

43:45

so i've always voted that and has been

43:48

a fun process for me so i look

43:50

at situations know i look as the guys

43:52

that can operate third down two minutes in

43:54

in his of the game situations that that

43:56

to me is what set as a separate

43:59

or for me. And

44:01

then you look at toughness. You know, you

44:03

got to look and toughness for a quarterback

44:05

really is about the mental toughness

44:07

to be able to stand in the pocket and deliver the

44:09

ball. And then also have the

44:12

discernment to be able to move out of the pocket and

44:14

create when it's necessary. So and

44:16

there's they come on all different shapes and sizes. But

44:19

yeah, it's always been fun to evaluate those guys. Let

44:22

me repeat some of that. A guy

44:24

who has ability to create.

44:27

A guy who has the ability to

44:29

throw with timing and accuracy. Timing and

44:32

accuracy. A guy who can move the ball

44:34

down the field when it's in critical moments.

44:36

Third down, two minutes. We

44:39

know the stats for Justin Fields in

44:41

those situations. Oh, that was a Lucuzzi

44:43

problem. Lucuzzi was

44:45

like almost the first question asked him. That

44:48

was the first of the combine where

44:50

he asked the head coach, hey the

44:53

guy you fired what are the

44:55

Raiders gave him? Or did

44:57

a Raiders I walked in. I don't know who

44:59

it was. A Raiders guy asked the first question.

45:02

Well tried to and then Flus gave his opening

45:04

statement. Later on he came back and

45:06

he wanted to know what the Raiders gave Lucuzzi and I

45:08

get it. We've done that before where

45:10

the Bears have somebody who was on a different staff

45:12

and you ask about it. But it's a little interesting.

45:14

It's like the guy you fired six weeks

45:16

ago. Tell me how great

45:19

he is for the team he's on now.

45:21

What would you like about Lucuzzi so much

45:23

that you fired him? He

45:25

drinks a lot of pop. A

45:28

lot of squirt games. Yeah, he's a big squirt fan.

45:30

But listing all those things like knowing what we know

45:33

statistically like that's not Justin Fields. I don't know if

45:35

you need another indication or if you're gonna if

45:39

you're listening to this now or watching us if you're

45:41

just not believing where this is headed with

45:44

Justin Fields. I don't know. I just thought

45:46

that it was another strong indication about where

45:48

things are headed with the Bears quarterback situation.

45:51

Yeah, and I just to

45:53

me kind of getting back

45:55

to the timing is You

45:59

still haven't Let's talk to these quarterbacks yet. So

46:02

like, if

46:06

you are going to make this move now, you

46:08

have to have conviction on at least one if

46:10

not two of them to at least

46:13

say, well, we know we like two of them. We can

46:15

sort out the rest of it from here with the pro

46:17

days going forward. But

46:19

I think that goes back to what I was saying at the

46:21

top of the show. I think they're already blown away generally by

46:23

this class. And then

46:25

maybe that's it. Maybe it's more than

46:27

one. Because if it

46:30

was just narrow focused on Caleb, and I

46:32

ultimately do believe that'll be the pick, but

46:35

you're leaving yourself up to, I don't

46:37

know what happens. Like, like, I don't

46:39

think Caleb Williams is going to

46:41

have like a Jalen Carter situation, but that

46:43

stuff happens sometimes. Yeah. And

46:45

so if you decide, literally

46:48

today, we love Caleb so much,

46:51

the Steelers want to work out a trade tonight

46:53

at St. Elmos for Justin Fields, you pull that

46:55

trigger. And

46:58

then something happens in the next two months with Caleb. You're

47:01

stuck. Then you're in a bad spot. So

47:03

that does speak to that point, that there's

47:05

got to be more than one quarterback here

47:07

that they're feeling good

47:09

about in order to make

47:11

that type of trade sooner rather than later,

47:13

before draft night, essentially. These

47:16

guys get her training. I

47:19

hate talking about it, but every year

47:21

there is one prospect that either running

47:23

the 40-yard dash here at Indy or

47:25

at their pro day, something bad happens.

47:27

It does happen. Well, that's why you

47:29

have Caleb Williams, Drake May, and

47:32

Jaden Daniels not doing a single

47:34

thing here, but meeting with teams.

47:36

Well, it's probably smart. I remember

47:38

last year, it was Easter when

47:41

Ryan Poles got, saw

47:43

what he needed to see from Darnell Wright. He

47:46

had to have, do that private workout. He wanted

47:48

to see Chris Morgan put Darnell Wright through that

47:50

rigorous workout, and then he knew we've got our

47:52

guy. So, and I

47:54

asked Poles about this today, about the timeline, because they

47:56

keep talking about it's important to get these guys in

47:59

person. See them I'd I'll talk

48:01

to them and to see how they're wired and

48:03

they want to see how these guys are in

48:05

the buildings and you a in your either story

48:07

to get when up over the weekend about what.

48:09

You. Look how you can measure intense was one

48:12

of the someone said to me was you

48:14

want to see how they talk to the people

48:16

in your build It's the security guards the secretaries

48:18

like there's so much the goes into this

48:20

and this of uses a happen until. April

48:23

now pulls made see my hope we wanted

48:25

to. We can manipulate a terminal been how

48:27

and do some stuff with guys earlier but

48:29

yet they might So that's a thing. like

48:31

they could say like we know we're going

48:33

to draft somebody. We. Just don't

48:35

know who we need to get through April

48:37

and all these meetings to get to forgo

48:40

the Nyers. You're not saying the same logic

48:42

going to put. Tail. Williams through

48:44

some strenuous workout years. You're saying they're

48:46

going to exhaust every person all the

48:48

opportunity they can to get to know.

48:50

this is is it in person as

48:52

is Ryan Paul. Guess as to the

48:54

desert in a sort of the Louis

48:56

Riddick lied was this is a risk.

48:59

It's. About minimizing risk. That.

49:02

That's this entire exercise is how can I

49:04

minimize risk with this pic and when your

49:06

top of the number one picks were time

49:08

a trading a known commodity just and feels

49:10

that the an even higher bar Yeah, so

49:12

they really need to make sure that they've

49:14

gotten everything that he know about all these

49:16

guys and that can take some time. I'll

49:18

be really enough that we got time obviously

49:20

to talk about more this with Caleb as

49:22

be really surprised if there's. A. It's

49:24

kind of we're process because you're like trying to

49:27

dig up dirt like were not a dirt where

49:29

I decide. I just don't think they're gonna find

49:31

much. How many do so into his birthday party?

49:33

her right? It's a good it's a good boy

49:35

idea echoed. probably unfair to to go in or

49:37

goes back to the browsers berber now susteren else

49:39

has but paralysis. Either way it goes

49:41

back to that were you over think it in

49:43

I think to we just like. Because.

49:46

Kill Blames unlike anything we've ever seen

49:48

with the and I'll Stuff. Like.

49:50

You just you just have you know more

49:52

about him. Be still don't know fully what

49:54

he's gonna be like and there's no easy

49:56

bake until his in the building. but

49:58

yeah i do think the coast The thing is, this is not

50:01

a guy who's gotten in trouble. Right? No,

50:03

he has it. But he's

50:05

talked about that way. I

50:07

feel like the spotlight he's been in, the commercials

50:10

he's been in, all the stuff that usually gets

50:12

thrown, the money, obviously

50:14

he's going to get more money when he goes to the NFL. But these

50:17

are things that are usually, I feel

50:19

like it helps NFL teams with the

50:21

evaluation. Because that's

50:24

always an unknown after

50:26

you draft a guy. Well, how's he going to

50:28

handle this, this, and this? Well, Caleb's

50:30

already been dealing with that for two years. He's

50:33

been in Dr. Pepper commercials. He's been in GQ. Yeah,

50:36

I mean, like, you know

50:38

he's already got a structure for what money

50:40

he's taken in. He already has a marketing

50:42

team. And yes, so a lot of that's

50:44

already been figured out. I think it makes it a lot easier.

50:46

All right, before we get out of here, we've got to talk

50:49

about Jalen Johnson real quick. Just

50:51

what was your takeaway from Ryan Pohl's, what

50:53

he laid out today, which was a lot

50:56

of optimism that a deal

50:58

can get done. They don't want to use the franchise

51:00

tag. And they feel like their offer is very strong.

51:02

Kevin, you and I talked about this. I

51:04

think you have the best take on this. I

51:07

do? Wow. Oh, a

51:09

lot of pressure now. Yeah, my take was that

51:11

was Ryan Pohl's essentially saying, if

51:14

Jalen Johnson gets the franchise tag, it's not

51:16

our fault. Yeah. It's his

51:18

fault. That was Ryan Pohl setting

51:20

the bar of, we gave him this amazing

51:22

offer. How could, like, you know, we did

51:24

everything we could. It's a strong offer. And

51:26

he talked about cash. He talked about guarantees.

51:28

He talked about the number of years. He

51:30

made it seem like it's probably like a

51:32

three-year deal maybe, where I would imagine a

51:34

high percentage guarantee. I would imagine it'd be

51:37

like an average around the Jair Ex-Alender. And

51:39

there's an opportunity for another contract. So he

51:41

put it all out there. So

51:43

that way, it's like, well, Jalen Johnson, if

51:45

you don't take this, and we

51:47

got to tag you, it's your fault. Yeah, that's on you.

51:49

And that's just Ryan Pohl's to the side of things. But

51:51

that's what you got to do. You got the microphone in

51:54

front of you? Go for it, I guess. So if we're

51:56

assuming based on Those comments, That

52:00

would say that this this offer is close

52:02

to the top of the corner market. If.

52:05

Not a song why I'm assuming they're demanding as

52:07

as yeah I did. They are considering the cedric

52:09

and so maybe they're poses a walk. It will

52:11

give it to you but not for for five

52:13

years for three. Do.

52:17

They. Get enough to get. It does. My

52:19

initial reaction to in the scenario you

52:21

just painted. Will. Yes Because if

52:23

I'm the bears, I'm. Still

52:26

concerned about. Longevity.

52:28

And as the shoulder Yeah, and he still

52:30

never played a full season. Yeah, and that

52:33

is a real concern if I'm signing somebody

52:35

to a long term deal. For.

52:39

For Abba at that, doesn't mean that

52:41

Zealand's side of the meat is now

52:43

the also it also doesn't. Media's again

52:45

doesn't mean the jails side doesn't like

52:47

the offer that Ryan Polls has presented

52:49

it as when you hear it a

52:51

it was rare to hear a Gm.

52:54

Kind of lay it out in that

52:56

format and. Or even to think it's

52:59

cynical to think of it the way that I did

53:01

that. Know if that's the as it is, it's as

53:03

you're You're playing your your play in the negotiation. play

53:05

hardball, Art.

53:08

Or. Be back math could see if

53:10

it's ah. You. Know. I

53:13

do love you guys. He was

53:15

nicely and why not in a mental it was the was

53:17

lesbian and wide on like on the road the had I

53:19

used as a cast I miss. Body. Adam.

53:22

Ah, That thought the not

53:24

occur to me as I was winding through

53:26

six hundred and nine terms on that road.

53:28

Oh, It isn't say how nervous the

53:30

deal and some of those nice. Not really

53:32

because I had good prep. If you go

53:34

around the north. West. Side of

53:37

the Island of Maui. Actually

53:39

a hard drive. It shorter than

53:41

not quite as may turns be. You go

53:43

around some valleys on these turns where this

53:46

little is one lane. It's done the one

53:48

lane both directions and there's a narrow go

53:50

guard rails as you're looking down there and

53:52

that was way crazier. There's more turns on

53:54

the road on a but they were safe.

53:56

Return to my opinion. so

53:58

i got that prep and other the It was fun. It's

54:01

beautiful. I've done it. Yeah. I

54:04

was more worried about my wife getting car sick because that's... I

54:07

don't know how kids can make that trip to Hana without

54:09

getting car sick. There's a scene at the end of it,

54:11

at least the route that we took, where you get all

54:13

these rolling hills and you're like, you're on the top of

54:15

a kind of a peak. Did you stop

54:17

there? Yeah. Oh, man. It

54:19

blows you away. Yeah. It's

54:22

the best. Any comment? Robert Mays is

54:24

in Mexico. I saw some tweets about

54:26

Mexico City. It looked awesome. It

54:29

looked outstanding, as always. Wait, Mays posted some

54:31

of the food pictures? Yeah.

54:35

It was a new thing he was doing. He's

54:39

over here. I love Mays. I

54:41

keep Mays' Google Doc of

54:44

Chicago restaurants. I've sent that

54:46

to so many people in

54:50

terms of like, here's a guide of where to get

54:52

good food. Well, he didn't even know

54:54

if I took notes on his indie recommendations last year, so I

54:56

didn't even have to text him last week when he was in

54:58

Mexico saying, hey, where should I book a reservation Monday night? And

55:00

we went to, is it

55:02

livery? Livery? Livery? Yeah, well,

55:04

however it's pronounced. We went there last night.

55:06

It was outstanding. And he also has good

55:09

football takes. Yeah, they're all right.

55:11

Yeah, sometimes. Well,

55:14

you should be listening to that athletic football show. And

55:17

Robert's here, Nate's here. And by the way, we're little tees. We're

55:19

working on the timing of this, but we are going to try

55:21

to get back together with him like we did last year for

55:23

a fun show, especially with the Bears having

55:26

the number one pick again. We

55:28

will be back later in the week as well

55:31

in a couple days probably, just to pick

55:33

whatever what else we get here the next

55:35

few nights, especially in indie. Share

55:38

all that with you. Maybe some news will break along

55:40

the way. Who knows? Should be

55:42

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55:44

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56:21

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56:23

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