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Johns is back from the Southeast.

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I like the Southeast. You like the

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Southeast. You got the, you're, you're an

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SEC fan. Everybody knows this. And

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I don't know, you went the wrong week. Why

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did you just stay down there? It's Masters week.

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You were like, you had to have been pretty

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that. Yeah. Kids, if you're

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the Masters And maybe the Bears

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so bright and do it well that's how podcast

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work So yeah be great if you us citizen

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when he was offered a who is the thought.

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Of so you know how you been

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I posting care Williams videos every morning

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yes I was thinking the smart as

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like what if somebody is phone or

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computers is kind of busted and they

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can't see video. And every

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morning they just think you're saying good morning.

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Has been a nice guy. says.

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Really like wow every morning hocus so

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polite was should be a good morning.

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And would be the worst thing they do

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on twitter at making a better place. Yeah

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as I didn't I know what those videos

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aren't Shrine Every so damn negative it's like

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every day there's by people are like. So

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you are. You know you gotta do what

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are these days? The. Guy Do

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it. Tyson Baigent video with a good morning.

3:03

Who. I'll. Leave that to

3:05

carve. He. sets his

3:08

depressed. People

3:12

forgotten that he's on the team. He's

3:15

a really valuable part of that. him. On.

3:19

His the backup quarterback. Yeah now. In.

3:22

Backup. Quarterback easily have the place and

3:25

as he is a pretty decent backup

3:27

quarterback to self. Ah, we get Bryce!

3:29

Talk more about ties in Beijing in

3:31

June. Juries a

3:33

finicky have ah but for now

3:36

or to keep it to the

3:38

draft because we're getting pretty damn

3:40

close or about two weeks and

3:42

two days away from the draft

3:45

happening on. My. Way out on

3:47

off is that there and as pie not that surprising

3:49

but I i kill a Williams will be at the

3:51

draft. At.

3:53

And not. I mean it's he should

3:55

be. But sometimes players. Oh don't

3:58

Thomas was on a. boat Especially

4:02

when he got drafted. Now he's not Caleb Williams, but

4:04

he was still pretty damn good. Justin

4:07

Fields wasn't at the draft. So sometimes guys don't

4:09

go, but I did confirm Caleb's going to be

4:11

there, and I think there's probably going to be

4:13

a lot of people there covering it. So should

4:16

be a lot of fun. I feel like

4:18

most first overall picks are at the

4:20

draft though. Right? Yeah.

4:23

I don't know how that all works even. Like

4:26

do they get paid to go? Is

4:29

there more incentive for... I

4:31

mean you got to think the NFL wants the first

4:33

goal. Yeah, there's like a special request there. Like

4:36

Bryce Young was there. Heck

4:39

Mitch was there. But he was number two. Yeah,

4:43

I feel like most of them are there. Aaron Rodgers was

4:45

there. Sitting. Waiting.

4:48

Doing. And it worked out for him. It

4:50

worked out pretty well. All right, so here's

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the deal for today's show. By the way, follow

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polos are out. Everybody...

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I might even play nine later today if we're being

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honest. It's nice out finally. We

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are... Oh, and hopefully everyone,

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if you missed Friday's

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episode with Josh Lucas, check it out. A

5:19

lot of positive responses. I appreciate everybody

5:21

who has given feedback on that. Josh

5:23

Lucas gave us his top 10 overall

5:26

prospects in the draft.

5:28

I feel like it was a pretty interesting exercise

5:30

because it gives you a glimpse of how all

5:35

teams' boards can be different.

5:38

Drastically different in some cases. And

5:42

we spent a lot of time talking about

5:44

that too. So there's a lot of good

5:46

draft insight that I would recommend listening to

5:48

before the draft comes in case you missed

5:50

it. So go check that out. Today,

5:53

what we're going to do is

5:55

a little bit different but very

5:57

relevant to the Bears process because

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Ryan Pols... Shared. Some.

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Of this are with us when we

6:03

are all at the owners mean for

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jobs Why don't you explain what Ryan

6:08

Paul said and then I'll explain how

6:10

we're gonna take that forward in this

6:12

episode. So in a small conference room

6:14

and a Jw Marriott Orlando on during

6:16

our fifteen twenty minutes with Ryan Polls

6:19

he was as I feel ago that

6:21

alternate version of Goodnight Man as and

6:23

bit like that and in the great

6:25

Every room there was a General manager

6:27

and a bunch of journalists. And

6:30

one camera or friend Patrick Finley

6:32

with the Earth to Cameras for

6:34

litigants to cameras One reporter from

6:36

the Athletic who awkwardly walk in

6:38

late. Who and

6:40

a pair of mittens I'd have walk in

6:42

late? Know was a new. Cabinet.

6:46

Know can was there now sir who was the

6:48

other athletic report in the room. Okay,

6:52

until it. Okay,

6:56

I was trying out urge you

6:58

Benefit. It totally does that. Anyway,

7:01

the question was what excites you

7:03

about the different avenues you haven't

7:05

the draft And here was his

7:07

answer: I like the numbers. I.

7:09

Talked about it when I first got here but

7:11

we have different tears and are draft board. I

7:13

like the numbers in terms of the talented players

7:15

that we can get to at night. We're.

7:18

Going to do some cool things we get

7:20

back and a break into teams. One team

7:22

is going to talk about attacks. Position is

7:25

the best to go after the wide receivers

7:27

the best, the fact events the best and

7:29

use factual information to get a spit it

7:31

out and will have a debate in terms

7:33

of what's the most impactful for a team

7:36

short term and long term. I'm looking forward

7:38

to that Now we know it. household if

7:40

had a bunch of different visits a thing.

7:42

Marvin Harrison Jr. was the Hilaire this week.

7:45

Last week it was Kale Williams arm, but

7:47

I imagine at some. Point This

7:49

exercise. Has. Taken

7:51

place over a day or two

7:53

days. right? Where they argue about

7:56

which position is best to go after

7:58

those a three premium position of to

8:00

tackle wide receiver and the Feds event.

8:03

So. We're. Gonna do some cool

8:05

things on the show and do the same thing

8:07

so he needs taken one of these positions and.

8:10

I. Were a make arguments before we

8:12

do that though. I'm

8:15

this. I'm intrigued by

8:17

him mentioning those three positions.

8:21

Like. Did anyone else did?

8:23

they? Are they just not discussing the

8:25

other positions? Or.

8:27

Was he just. Highlighting. Three,

8:29

the premium positions. And.

8:33

I'm a new that. Pretty. Revealing to that's

8:36

like okay these are the three positions

8:38

where zeroed in on arm. And

8:41

then I always because it's draft season. Get.

8:44

Paranoid and I'm like is that to smoke?

8:46

Yeah yeah I felt that to arm but

8:48

I frog hours to the Bears and number

8:50

nine Pm Yeah in front right here on

8:52

the shelf. Ah, I

8:54

feel like it's part of his

8:56

philosophy, like he puts such an

8:59

emphasis on premium position investment. That.

9:02

If you look get. Out

9:04

on he was racking rankings like meh. Podium

9:07

out with Isn't it like that number nine

9:09

pick is in great range for the best

9:11

tackles. They. Be the first the Feds event.

9:14

And. One of those top three receivers right like

9:16

this is. I'm. Only

9:18

he's hiding from the fact of that. Those

9:21

are the best players available and number

9:23

nine. And they fit the prima position

9:25

philosophy that he wants to take. It

9:28

also think I may we We generally say

9:30

the Rye imposes little more candid the law

9:33

general managers in those conversations with us. so

9:35

he it's like I go back to the

9:37

fact that both Ryan polls Emma your foes

9:39

We're not afraid to just say yes they

9:42

met with cowboys Yes these are the things

9:44

that stood out. Bucket Williams like the yakuza

9:46

that there's a lot of people in this

9:49

league that was are my markets are by

9:51

prospects are we talk to you know we're

9:53

talking a lotta guys. Yeah Giuseppe like user

9:55

sidewalk you guys. Although the top positions we

9:58

other. Top positions are am I. I'm

10:00

not losing any competitive advantages if I let

10:02

you know the three were pointing it on Yeah,

10:05

and that's always been refreshing about Ryan is

10:07

that you know obvious things

10:09

can be obvious and you don't need

10:12

to pretend that they're not and that's

10:16

Been the case with Ryan polls for the most part I

10:18

think since he's gotten here and that's been refreshing and also

10:20

proof that hey you can actually build a team that way

10:23

and have success Doing

10:26

so without being completely secretive all the

10:28

time All right, so

10:30

let's start this process Offensive

10:33

tackle is gonna go to Kevin Fishpaint.

10:35

He's gonna start us out Johns is

10:38

gonna handle the wide receivers and I

10:40

am going to talk defensive ends kind

10:42

of slash defensive line Addressing

10:45

the pass rush issue on defense

10:48

once I take my turn, but Kevin, let's start with

10:50

you and The argument

10:52

to take an offensive tackle with the

10:54

number nine overall pick Brings

10:57

me back to my days in high school. I was one

10:59

of the popular kids because I didn't model you in so

11:03

brings it back to those days of so picture

11:05

picture me holding a microphone and Pacing

11:08

back and forth across the stage two

11:10

time. We were two time National

11:13

champions, okay, what country did you represent?

11:16

One year I was Switzerland

11:18

which everyone made oh, yeah,

11:21

and one year I was Brazil Okay.

11:24

Yeah Two very

11:26

different countries very different countries anyway

11:31

gentlemen Between the

11:33

three of us we've watched over a

11:35

hundred years of Chicago Bears football Adam

11:37

Johns has watched significantly more because he's

11:40

way older than Hogue

11:42

and myself it also should be

11:44

stated for the record I'm the youngest of the three

11:46

and because of the way age and time works despite

11:48

the eclipse yesterday I will remain and always be the

11:50

youngest one in this podcast. I digress

11:54

We have seen this franchise as much as

11:56

we talk about quarterback how much this team

11:59

has not had great offensive

12:01

lineman year after year, decade

12:03

after decade. Now

12:05

is an opportunity for Ryan Polls to

12:07

stack the Darnell right pick last

12:09

year with a blue chip

12:12

left tackle to give the Bears

12:14

bookends at that tackle

12:16

position that they've really never had. Let

12:19

me take you through the three highest

12:21

scoring Bears teams this millennium. 2018, two

12:25

Bears offensive linemen with the Pro Bowl. 2013,

12:28

Bears offensive lineman with the Pro Bowl. 2006, two

12:30

Bears offensive linemen

12:33

with the Pro Bowl. If you want to score

12:35

a lot of points you need some good offensive

12:37

linemen. And here's some fun facts for you. Bo

12:40

Wolf, our former colleague and your current colleague, heading

12:43

to 2023 drafted a little bit of a study.

12:46

He wanted to see where do you find the best players.

12:48

63% of Pro

12:51

Bowl tackles were drafted

12:53

in round one that was the second

12:55

highest behind quarterback. The median pick

12:57

of Pro Bowl offensive tackles was 15. Also

13:01

second highest behind quarterback. Wide

13:03

receiver, 42.9% of Pro Bowl receivers

13:05

drafted in the

13:09

first round. If you

13:11

want to get a great offensive lineman, percentages tell

13:13

you you should take that offensive lineman in the

13:15

first round. And I just saw his tweet right

13:18

as we were going on the air. Of

13:20

the 10 highest paid wide receivers in the

13:23

National Football League, only one was

13:25

taken in the first round. Calvin Ridley,

13:27

he was a 26 pick of the

13:29

draft. So if you want to

13:31

get that great offensive lineman, put him

13:33

right on the other side of Darnell Wright and

13:35

be set for years to come and

13:38

protect Caleb Williams, use that number

13:40

nine pick on an offensive tackle. Which

13:45

one? That

13:49

wasn't part of the homework assignment. I

13:52

mean it kind of was. Well it

13:54

is because, okay, all

13:56

valid points, but is there a

13:58

Pro Bowl offensive tackle available? on this draft

14:00

at number nine. Yeah, I

14:03

guess the conversation where if

14:05

I'm like the rebuttal, what if Joe

14:08

Alt is gone? Like if I'm looking at the

14:10

Bears board and they have like some blue

14:13

colored players, those

14:15

are like the best players according to

14:17

Bears draft grades. I imagine Notre

14:20

Dame left tackle Joe Alt as a blue

14:23

color. If he's there at nine,

14:26

turn the pick in, right? Yep. Or what if

14:28

he's not? If he's not, you trade up

14:30

and go get him. Wow.

14:34

Or we've got

14:37

there are other offensive tackles in that

14:39

range and you

14:41

can trade back and get one at 11 or 12. JC

14:45

Latham, Alabama, Olufeshanu, Penn

14:48

State, is it Talis, Fuega, Oregon

14:50

State? Again,

14:53

maybe they're not on the Joe Alt level, but

14:56

I think when you're talking about the opportunity

14:59

that any one of those

15:01

guys could be a starter,

15:03

a stalwart for a decade,

15:05

you go ahead and grab them in one

15:07

with that second first round pick. But what about

15:09

Braxton Jones? Well,

15:14

you got two great options with Braxton

15:16

Jones. Either one, you've

15:19

got a, sorry, I'll have three options.

15:22

One, you've got a really good backup swing tackle who can

15:24

step in whenever you need them to. Two,

15:26

you've got an incredibly valuable trade chip. Who

15:29

wants our left tackle who started a

15:31

lot of games, who's on a fifth

15:33

round rookie contract? Who wants them?

15:36

We'll give them to you for a mid round or

15:39

fifth round pick. Three,

15:41

you can experiment. You can try

15:43

moving them, practice him inside, get him some

15:45

positional flexibility because you don't know who your

15:47

guards are going to be in 2025. And

15:51

maybe Braxton Jones shows you something there and

15:53

has the versatility to be able to give you

15:56

the option. So look, I think that we are

15:58

going to learn a lot about what the... Bears,

16:00

we're going to learn everything about the Bears singing

16:02

Braxton Jones on April 25th, because

16:04

if they take it off with the tackle, it means

16:06

they obviously believe one of those guys is an upgrade to

16:09

Jones. And I do think that they have, it's a

16:11

good problem to have to have those options with somebody

16:13

who's as skilled as he has

16:15

with his experience and his contract

16:18

situation. You know, it's a good,

16:20

because either you don't take a tag when you're selling

16:22

Braxton Jones or you do, and you can do a lot of

16:24

different things with him. Here's my

16:26

view on Braxton Jones right now. He

16:29

is, I think, and Josh

16:31

called him on Friday's episode of functional left tackle,

16:35

which I think he is. I

16:37

think maybe on a Super Bowl team,

16:39

he's more like ideally your swing

16:41

tackle. And to your

16:44

point, I'd love to see if he can play inside that

16:46

guard, and I don't really know that yet. So maybe we

16:48

find that out. If

16:54

Aaron Rodgers is my quarterback right

16:56

now, or, you know,

17:00

what's another veteran out there right now? Why am

17:02

I blanking on all the veteran quarterbacks? If Matthew

17:04

Stafford's my quarterback right now? Something

17:07

like that. I'm probably

17:09

okay with Braxton Jones as

17:11

my left tackle. But if

17:15

I'm drafting a rookie quarterback, and

17:17

know that I absolutely cannot screw

17:19

this up this time, and we're

17:21

trying to get Caleb Williams all the help

17:23

in the world I can, I'm

17:26

probably looking for an upgrade,

17:28

or at least competition, at

17:31

least good competition to

17:34

make sure we're maximizing that

17:36

blindside position on the offensive line. And

17:39

I have to, now that's all my opinion there.

17:42

I feel like that's probably how the Bears

17:44

are looking at this right now too. And

17:47

Johns, you talked about Ryan Polls

17:49

and premium positions. And we

17:52

know they were interested in Mike McClinty

17:54

last March. Didn't work out, then

17:56

they draft Darnell Wright, and that worked out. I

17:58

think the Bears are, but... better

18:00

off with that

18:02

trade-off. Other than that, we

18:05

haven't seen that premium investment

18:07

in tackle. That was a big one.

18:09

Time for the number 10 pick of the draft. But

18:13

they inherited Tevin Jenkins.

18:16

They gave Nate Davis a nice

18:18

contract, but they've spent a little bit at

18:20

center this off season. Obviously,

18:25

they traded a pick for Ryan Bates. Otherwise,

18:27

what have they done for a team who's

18:29

two people running the team are former offensive

18:31

linemen. I'm waiting for

18:34

that big move. Darnell Wright

18:36

was what? Where's that other

18:38

big move to fortify that offensive

18:40

line? Who's it going to be? Let's

18:43

say they take Fuaga, who

18:46

doesn't meet

18:48

the arm length threshold that

18:50

some teams want. He's under 34 inches.

18:55

Can he play guard or do you take

18:57

Fuaga moving the right tackle? Can Darnell Wright

18:59

play left tackle? There's a little bit of

19:01

experience there, although he was putting

19:03

darn good or right tackle for

19:05

you as a rookie. What

19:08

if he's a blue chip player on the Bears' grades?

19:10

We know that the Bears have done a lot of

19:12

work on him. They sent Chris Morgan out to work

19:14

him out in

19:16

Oregon State, or he was part of the pro

19:19

day work out there. Could

19:22

he be an option at nine?

19:24

That would result in some reshuffling. We've

19:28

seen this group has no

19:31

problem shuffling guys up front.

19:33

The idea of taking the best offensive linemen available

19:36

and you feel good about

19:39

this group for the next several

19:41

years, as Hogue talked about, you're protecting

19:43

your franchise. You're building up that

19:45

group in front of him.

19:49

I have a lot of questions about wide receiver in

19:51

terms of who's that third option? What are you thinking

19:53

about for 2025 and beyond of Keenan Allen's

19:55

not here? You can

19:57

find really, really good wide receivers. day

20:00

two. So this is

20:02

where I will to kind of

20:05

get into the discussion reference our bears

20:08

100 on CHGO because I have two

20:10

offensive tackles. The

20:12

two we've discussed here basically Joe Alt

20:15

and Talise Fuaga that I

20:19

are I think are worthy of being taken at number nine.

20:21

They're fifth and sixth on

20:24

our board right now the Bears 100 on CHGO.

20:29

For in a vacuum I

20:32

actually like Fuaga better but

20:35

given the Bears situation in which you just brought

20:37

up John's about what to do with Darnell Wright

20:39

I think Fuaga is a right tackle I don't

20:41

necessarily think he's a left tackle. With

20:44

Darnell Wright last year if we go

20:46

try to go back in time the

20:50

thinking was you have a plug-and-play

20:53

right tackle and

20:57

he has the tools to play left

20:59

tackle but his tape at

21:01

Tennessee showed that he did not really

21:03

take off until he went to the right

21:05

side and then that's where he

21:08

became a first round draft pick. So

21:12

do I think Darnell can play left tackle?

21:14

I do but it's a projection and to

21:18

me it's riskier even

21:20

though I think I have Fuaga ahead

21:23

of Joe Alt just one 1v1

21:26

slightly better player.

21:28

I've now put Joe Alt ahead

21:30

of Fuaga because I just think it for

21:32

what the Bears need it's

21:35

just easier to take Joe Alt put them

21:37

there at left tackle and

21:39

not mess with both positions at the same

21:41

time. A true

21:43

left tackle. But

21:47

that doesn't mean the Bears who we know

21:49

love Darnell Wright they

21:52

may say hey we think Darnell Wright can play left

21:54

tackle and Fuaga is gonna

21:56

be a great right tackle like you said Joe Alt

21:58

could be off the board. That's very, actually

22:01

very, very possible. Joel's already gone. So

22:04

how you handle that at nine will be very,

22:06

very interesting. But

22:08

so a couple names there at number nine. So

22:10

you guys should see the speeches I have written

22:13

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22:16

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22:20

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is it's fact that some are

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now or okay. I rarely soils

24:30

go the zoc odds are the.

24:33

Wide receivers. I'm going to start. With.

24:36

Keenan Allen. Now

24:38

it's true that is last really major

24:40

significant injuries or twenty fifteen twenty sixteen.

24:43

But he is thirty one and let

24:45

me just go through. Some.

24:47

Of these injuries that is had throughout his career

24:49

is going to name a bunch. Ac

24:53

joint spring. Heeled Bruce. Strain.

24:55

Hamstring: Nother Strain hamstring.

24:59

Ankle string. Hipster, hip

25:01

spring growing pool as he

25:03

joined sprint. P.

25:06

C. Ah. Ligament.

25:08

Damage Ac Altair, that's and toys.

25:10

sixteen. Lacerated Kinney. That's

25:12

And twenty fifteen broken clavicle.

25:16

Sprained. Ankle. So.

25:18

There's a lot of injuries

25:20

in Kenya. Now owns history

25:22

now. Ryan. Polls has

25:24

described him as the absolute

25:27

perfect fit. For. This

25:29

ah friends, especially with. A.

25:31

Young quarterback coming in to get open

25:33

his family. I now that the same

25:35

player thirty one soon to be thirty

25:37

two but he is. Still

25:40

darn good, but he has thirty one and

25:42

in the last year of his contract you

25:45

are looking at three. Blue

25:47

Chip receivers in the top

25:49

ten and I understand that

25:51

you to get receivers. At.

25:54

any point in the draft i

25:56

understand that but we're looking at

25:58

these top three receivers Like if

26:00

Marvin Harrison Jr. is there at number nine, for

26:02

whatever reason, for whatever reason, it's

26:05

an easy pick. There's your pick. Marvin Harrison

26:07

Jr. Just visited house hall this

26:09

week. And I think the same might apply to

26:12

Ramadunzang. Now the last year

26:14

that there, that there was

26:16

three wide receivers taken in the top 10,

26:19

it wasn't too long ago. It was 2021 when

26:21

you had Jamar Chase at number five

26:23

to Cincinnati hit. Jalen

26:26

Waddle, number six to Miami hit.

26:29

Devontae Smith at number 10 to

26:31

Philadelphia, one pick as head of Justin

26:33

Fields. Number 10, Devontae Smith to Philadelphia

26:36

hit. So recent history

26:38

suggests that if these three

26:40

receivers are blue chip receivers,

26:42

and I think our grades will reflect that as

26:45

the Chicago Bears, then

26:47

it's an easy decision that

26:49

receiver should be in

26:52

serious consideration at number nine,

26:54

given the injury

26:56

history to Keenan Allen, regardless of what type

26:59

of perfect fit he might be for this

27:01

offense. And I think

27:03

Keenan Allen could still provide this

27:06

young receiver with the perfect

27:08

mentor, same thing applies to DJ

27:10

Moore. And I just

27:12

like to think that this is a

27:14

team that receivers don't go to die,

27:16

but instead flourish with a young

27:19

quarterback. So

27:21

I don't know if George McCasky's in this

27:23

meeting or not, but if

27:25

he is, I'd like to raise my hand

27:27

as George and ask Ryan Poles a question.

27:30

Ryan, that list of

27:32

injuries, why did you not read

27:35

those off to me when you asked for

27:37

$23 million in cash on

27:40

two hours notice before trading

27:42

for him? See,

27:44

this is where I

27:47

didn't like having to defend this pick.

27:49

I gotta be honest, as much as like, if

27:52

I'm, what, you assign these, I was assigned

27:54

these, you know, and later as I thought

27:56

through it, Like, if I'm assigned

27:58

this in house, all. Let's they are my

28:01

jam. Like. But

28:03

the In cunningham. Is

28:05

given wide receivers. I just

28:07

would imagine even Cunningham. Being.

28:10

A former offensive lineman would be

28:12

like, know, like. This.

28:15

Is a d beer for receivers. History.

28:18

Has shown. Even. Arms was

28:20

the make this argument. That. You

28:22

can get. Receivers I com

28:24

was good receivers in almost any point

28:27

address like especially like the second and

28:29

third round. Now know the Bears haven't

28:31

hit on those third rounders. He

28:35

has yet to give you know how scuttle a

28:37

bit more time, but. It

28:40

seems to me like discovering this this

28:42

era of Chicago Bears. Like the Polls

28:44

era. Like. They like to

28:46

make investments. Upfront like they

28:48

want to build out the trenches and

28:50

allow my. Completely not making

28:53

the argument that bang in the table

28:55

for receiver but I would feel like

28:57

even like same just king. Same.

28:59

Tree cause you to former titans right?

29:01

Like I think they believe building through

29:03

the changes. As. Much as

29:05

you need receivers. I

29:07

don't know. I they are. Glad

29:10

I was over. There are just to back

29:12

you on this going against the position you

29:14

have. I'm going to read off his top

29:16

ten highest paid receivers. And let's

29:18

count the Super Bowls. Kateri,

29:21

Go! Yes, Yes! But.

29:23

Guess what? The quarterback. Has.

29:25

Already won two without him to.

29:29

Divide. That I'm Zero. Cooper

29:32

Cup one. Is

29:34

a brown zero. Decay. Metcalf

29:37

zero. Double. Samuel Zero.

29:39

Like. Open and even made the

29:41

playoffs. The Us who made the

29:44

playoffs Calvin really Zero. Terrible war

29:46

and zero to five digs Zero.

29:48

And then John's the ones you

29:50

mentioned from that draft. Tomorrow

29:53

Chase Zero. Jail.

29:55

Lot of Zero. Twenty Smith. Zero.

29:57

Just Jefferson. Zero. And

30:00

here's of all

30:02

those receivers you just listed Which

30:05

one is the first round pick? There's only one Calvin

30:09

Ridley right he's not with

30:11

his original team obvious for

30:15

Different well, there's a there's a few first round

30:17

picks in there. Well, I'm sure I tagged out

30:19

at the end 10

30:21

is only one Yeah Now

30:26

that's gonna change because Jamar Chase for example

30:28

is up for contract coming soon So, I

30:31

mean obviously that tap top 10 is

30:33

gonna pick like here's

30:35

another reason So

30:38

like the Chicago Bears just in terms of

30:40

salary cap allocation according to our friends at

30:42

spot track like their number

30:44

six in 2024 cap

30:46

dollars for wide receivers

30:48

number six Now

30:51

the two that I'll just read the teams in front of

30:53

them Seahawks 49ers

30:55

Dallas Cowboys Miami Dolphins Jacksonville

30:58

Jaguars, you know like 49ers

31:02

like I get it if

31:05

you want to emulate that situation again, but I

31:11

think by adding Keenan Allen regardless of

31:13

all the injuries I just listed off

31:17

It gives you so much flexibility If

31:20

you want to move off that pick say someone wants to move up

31:22

to nine for Roma Dune's

31:24

a which I think would infuriate Bears

31:26

fans a bit like if you you

31:29

know moved off that pick and no

31:31

drafted defensive end after that, but I Don't

31:34

know. It just seems like a tough

31:36

sell at Hell's Hall and especially after

31:38

making that move to to get

31:40

Keenan Allen. I I Want

31:43

to say receivers an option, but if I have to

31:45

tear them I'm definitely putting it behind

31:47

even offensive tackle at this point I think Yeah,

31:51

I mean look there

31:55

To me this is like supply and demand and

31:57

there's a lot of these I mean I I really Yeah,

32:00

I like Roma doons a I like a

32:02

lot of these players so same thing I

32:04

did with the offensive tackles Technically

32:10

like I I think there's

32:12

I think Marvin Harrison jr. Roma doons They

32:14

are the only two slam dunks for me

32:16

at number nine if they're still available

32:20

I like Malik neighbors and Brian Thomas jr. As

32:22

well I think both come with a couple other

32:24

questions though that don't make it a full

32:26

slam dunk so But

32:32

when you look at the receivers later It's

32:35

just a way deeper position than

32:37

these other positions we're talking about and that

32:40

has to be part of this discussion now

32:42

Bears don't have Draft capital in

32:44

the second round and I do think that

32:46

there's a difference between second round wide receivers

32:48

and third round Wide receivers, I think

32:50

that was reflected if you go back and listen to all

32:52

those names that haven't listed

32:54

off I

32:57

want to say only Tyreek Hill was After

33:01

the second round in there, but I'm trying to

33:03

reflect Hill

33:07

and Tyreek Hill's to

33:09

find digs were fifth round

33:11

picks. Yeah kind of you unicorns and

33:14

Cooper cup Jeremy flooring with third rounders Yeah

33:22

So There's there's

33:24

kind of a drop off there So

33:27

that's another reason why you would argue that the

33:29

bear should trade back pick

33:31

up another pick if they can in there if

33:33

they're gonna dress wide receivers because my counter to

33:35

your counter is What

33:38

happens all those injuries you listed off what happens the

33:40

keen and Alan gets hurt? Yeah, there's

33:43

all of a sudden that wide receiver depth chart looks a

33:45

lot different to me And

33:48

that is a possibility that you have to

33:50

prepare for you'd have to say There's

33:53

a greater chance right now that keen and Alan doesn't

33:55

play in all 17 games Then

33:59

there is that he does Yeah,

34:02

he last played in a full season in 2019. Now

34:06

his last significant injuries where he missed

34:09

like substantial time, that

34:12

was 2015, 2016, but he did miss seven games in 2022. Yeah.

34:19

Let me ask you guys a question and if this

34:22

matters. You

34:26

essentially have two number one wide receivers on your team

34:28

right now. I know Kenan

34:30

Allen played with Mike Williams, but

34:34

like how would that work

34:37

with Oromo Dunze, Marvin

34:40

Harrison Jr., Malik neighbors? I

34:43

think DJ Moore is as anti-Diva,

34:47

anti, you know, all those stereotypes

34:49

about that position that we've probably

34:51

ever come across for how

34:53

good he is. Like

34:56

these guys want the ball. Like

34:59

again, you find a way to make it

35:01

work and it's a great problem

35:03

to have if you have three great receivers,

35:05

but isn't there like a, is

35:07

it a concern? Is it a worry that you already have

35:09

to figure out how to distribute the ball to two alphas

35:12

in terms of, you know, these are

35:15

big time ProBolt caliber receivers and

35:17

then you got a third in there? You see

35:19

what I would say to that though, and this is maybe

35:21

another reason why you don't draft a receiver at number nine.

35:25

Reverses usually take a year to get

35:27

fully comfortable before they really take

35:29

off. Now there are some exceptions. Jamar Chase

35:32

was an exception. Justin

35:34

Jefferson was an exception, but

35:39

on one hand, it creates a great situation

35:41

for a rookie wide receiver to go into

35:43

because they understand where they are in the pecking

35:46

order and they can learn a lot from those

35:48

two guys. They can learn a lot from DJ

35:50

Moore and Kenan Allen in that room and really

35:52

soak it all in and Kenan Allen's not here

35:54

a year from now. Now

35:57

that guy steps up with the targets and It's

36:00

a great learning situation to be in on the

36:02

other hand everything I just said would also apply

36:04

to somebody you draft in the second or third

36:06

round and Maybe there's

36:09

a little less pressure to get that guy the ball because

36:11

he's not a first round pick. So I

36:14

do think the Bears will come away with a wide receiver

36:16

in this draft at some point I think they need to

36:18

given that what the depth chart looks like if Keenan Allen

36:20

goes down but I Don't

36:24

I think for all the reasons we've discussed

36:27

you I don't know if it's top need

36:29

among these three So I'll transition here to

36:31

more of the defensive and defensive line Argument

36:35

and a lot of it has to do with that supply

36:37

and demand Premium

36:39

position and also looking

36:41

at the Bears roster and understanding what they don't

36:44

have okay, so

36:47

With these three positions we know

36:49

that if they stay healthy the

36:52

wide receiver groups pretty decent right now you have

36:54

two number ones On

36:57

the offensive line, I think there's still question

36:59

marks But the Bears did

37:01

use first round draft capital on a right

37:03

tackle last year The

37:06

spot that hasn't really been addressed with

37:08

that with that much draft capital bears

37:11

did draft 2d tackles last year But

37:14

that was second third round Now

37:18

two years in Matt Eberthluses

37:20

defense which requires a stud

37:22

three technique And

37:26

as we saw last year when

37:28

they had no pass rushing at all on the

37:30

outside Montes sweat

37:32

helped that but there's still a

37:34

glaring hole on the other side so

37:38

in terms of need Especially

37:41

when you consider that Justin

37:43

Jones left and it has

37:45

not been replaced now Justin Jones is not a

37:47

pro bowler But Justin Jones is a pretty damn

37:49

good rotational player And

37:52

he got paid pretty nicely by the Arizona Cardinals

37:55

And that that has not been addressed to

37:57

this point So. I.

38:00

Would raise. Defensive.

38:02

Line need. Actually

38:04

first among these three positions.

38:08

Even with. The. Desire.

38:12

To. Insulate tale of Williams

38:14

in this best situation. but all

38:16

the moves the Bears already made

38:18

have done that. And.

38:20

What A quarterback also needs to be in

38:23

a great situation? Is a

38:25

dominant besides. We. Seek

38:27

we saw that were mischievous. Keep a good

38:29

year! Mr. Risky had. Was.

38:31

A result. Of. A

38:34

dominate the Feds that was the bus in

38:36

the league. Salt. To the bears,

38:38

Get all the way up there for they're not to do

38:40

that. If they don't have. More.

38:42

Pass rush help. And.

38:45

Again, supply and demand here.

38:48

I. Think of these positions. Especially.

38:52

For a look inside a defensive tackle.

38:56

That. Falls off a cliff in my opinion.

38:59

After. The. Early spotted this

39:01

draft. And any with the

39:03

edge rushers, you very quickly go from

39:05

plug and play to. Developmental.

39:10

Kind of hope and develop situation.

39:12

With. Some these guys. So.

39:16

Who's. Available. Well. To

39:18

me. How

39:21

like the other positions quite frankly to our

39:23

receivers to off to tackle the i have

39:25

to defensive linemen. That.

39:27

I'd be willing to take a number nine. But.

39:30

I think both of these guys will

39:32

be available. So sorry. Defensive end: And

39:35

that jerred verse. From. For a

39:37

state. Who. I think.

39:40

Is. a prototypical hand on the ground for

39:42

three defensive and offensive scheme that and

39:44

especially because he would not be asked

39:46

to be the number one edge rusher

39:48

on this roster because mantis what would

39:50

do that he been a great position

39:53

the com in be that number two

39:55

guy and help give the bear some

39:57

pass rush help but the player i

39:59

have or even higher than him is

40:01

actually on the interior. And also in

40:03

my opinion, the biggest need that they

40:05

have on that defense right now, which

40:07

is a get off the

40:09

ball, shoot the gap three technique that

40:12

creates consistent pressure as much as the

40:14

Bears like Jervon Dexter, that's not really

40:16

his game. And

40:19

Byron Murphy to me from Texas is

40:21

that guy. So my

40:24

argument here is based on what the biggest

40:26

need is how

40:29

the supply really drops off a

40:31

cliff after number

40:33

nine. And oh, by the way, I think

40:37

you could probably grab one of these two players

40:39

a couple of picks later, if

40:41

the Bears can also work a trade back at

40:44

draft capital draft, one of these two

40:46

defensive players and address an

40:49

area that they really have not addressed so far

40:51

this offseason. So if I'm

40:53

in that room, and I have to offer

40:55

the retort on that, Byron

40:58

Murphy is barely six feet, and

41:00

his arms are short. Is

41:02

he fast enough and disruptive enough, strong

41:05

enough to overcome those measurables,

41:08

which we know some scouts, some

41:11

directors obsessed with? Is

41:14

he good enough to overcome those? I

41:16

think he is. I mean, I

41:18

think and I would look

41:21

at Jervon Dexter as the

41:25

reason why you can't just always be obsessed with

41:27

size and length. Because

41:29

at some point you need to

41:31

get off the ball and have quickness and explosiveness

41:33

and get through those gaps. And

41:36

that's why and even though

41:38

the arm length may not

41:41

be ideal when you really watch

41:43

Byron Murphy, like he's got plenty of

41:45

power. He's got plenty of power in his

41:48

game. He's got the quickness. And

41:52

it's not fair to always bring up Aaron Donald's

41:55

name in the situation. But he's like that in

41:57

that he uses his lack of height

42:00

to his advantage to gain

42:02

leverage on much bigger offensive

42:04

alignment. So again,

42:08

I think that that's

42:10

obviously a fair question. And

42:12

if we've seen anything from this Bears regime, that's

42:15

where I would hesitate that they actually will draft Byron

42:17

Murphy because we know

42:21

that they prefer basketball

42:23

players size and length in some of these picks.

42:26

But I think it's also led to some mistakes

42:28

in some cases. But you know

42:30

who has that size and length? Jared Burks. Yes.

42:35

Well, I also think

42:37

that what Justin Jones has undersized,

42:41

led the team in tackles for last two years. And

42:44

it was so good last year that they never really,

42:47

I mean, Jervon Dexter's playing time inched

42:49

up a little bit of zero and up, but he

42:51

was never taking Justin Jones's job. Andrew

42:54

Billions, I mean, it's a different position, but

42:58

he's what, what's his

43:00

nickname? Juggernaut? Juggernaut.

43:02

Yeah. So I

43:04

think too, and this can't be the reason you make

43:06

the draft pick because it obviously has to go to

43:08

your board, but there's got to

43:10

be a little bonus to be able to say

43:13

we took the best defensive player in this entire

43:15

draft. That's

43:19

a cool thing to be able to take

43:21

away from this when you also, by the way,

43:23

took the best overall prospect in the entire draft.

43:26

Right. That means you come out of

43:28

the top nine with the best offensive player and the best defensive

43:30

player. Yeah. How many

43:32

teams can say that?

43:34

Now that would seem to be, well, who,

43:38

who was at house hall in the same day as Caleb

43:40

Williams? Dallas

43:43

Turner? Like

43:45

does that, why is he

43:47

different for you, Adam, as opposed to

43:49

Jared Burks? So I like

43:51

Dallas Turner, but I

43:54

just, I don't think he's, and I

43:57

always hate saying this because I'm also a guy who says.

44:00

Okay, just draft best players and figure out how to use

44:02

them But I think it is a little different when you

44:04

have a more rigid defense

44:06

scheme like Mattie Berfluis does and

44:09

that's what been one of the reasons why I

44:11

pushed back at this scheme a little bit but

44:14

it is what the Bears have it is the Bears reality

44:16

and Dallas

44:19

Turner well, I do think that you

44:21

can Obviously find a

44:24

way to make it work with him because he's

44:26

a very good football player. He's just not a Prototypical

44:30

hands on the ground for three

44:32

and and

44:35

He's got good enough length. He's obviously good enough athlete.

44:37

I think he can be a fit in the

44:39

defense I think they can find a way to

44:41

use them. He's probably got more bend around the

44:44

edge than Jared verse

44:46

does but Jared verse has way

44:48

more power and The other

44:50

thing I like about Jared verse more is the

44:52

motor just runs so much hotter with Jared verse

44:54

like Jared verse is a lot like Montez sweat

44:56

and then it just don't take a play off

44:59

they play the run and the pass equally

45:01

and A lot of what

45:03

I think made Dallas Turner good Alabama was

45:06

his versatility and their ability to line up

45:08

in any gap Stand

45:10

up play linebacker do all this stuff

45:12

But we know that that's not really what

45:14

the Bears do with their personnel. And

45:17

so I just think it's way more of a projection

45:20

that it can be that it can work rather

45:23

than I don't give you

45:25

drab Jared verse. He might not be

45:27

the you know in all pro Certainly

45:31

not right away But I

45:34

think he's a plug-and-play number two defensive end

45:36

and we'll start right away for you and

45:38

give you more than Yannick and Gokwe Did

45:41

Last year as a rookie Yeah,

45:44

I do think he refused to scheme like I guess

45:46

I would disagree to the point. Maybe maybe

45:48

flus wants a bit more Versatility

45:51

because I think he showed that let's not

45:54

forget you speaking of Justin Jones That

45:56

famous play against the Browns who was in coverage. Just

46:00

that we can drop in. I like it

46:02

so he's willing to do some different things.

46:04

Yeah, Like. A I

46:07

liked the length of Dallas Turner

46:09

allied to production. Lancer

46:11

line who I love for medical that

46:13

com as compared him the Brian Burns

46:15

and we know Brian Burns was on.

46:18

Ryan pulls a short list of

46:20

players from from for the trade

46:23

that eventually. Resulted in

46:25

in Dj More com. I.

46:28

Do agree with you did this more projection

46:30

but that's the draft right I cast. This

46:32

is projects. See. What's that player

46:34

to be? the next level is? it isn't the

46:36

worst thing in the world. To.

46:41

The. Markers Walker to be the

46:43

starting defensive understeer. Like.

46:47

I think is worse thing on the world

46:49

but yes it is affected our site levy

46:51

of. Because. I.

46:53

Mean Walkers production did go up in the

46:55

last six seven games a season. He.

46:58

Was signed to a pretty nice contract to kind

47:00

of be that guy. Ah

47:02

I am like just like we talked

47:04

about, Braxton Jones is like sure We

47:06

turbo just feels like. If

47:09

there's a opportunity for an upgrade, you take

47:11

it. With. The bears as I

47:13

do feel for example how could they beside ago

47:15

for with barber for your decide to. Go,

47:18

your use a higher pick. I had three

47:20

tech. As positive as when

47:22

the guy they take it the events

47:24

of and is just not ready to

47:26

start like I don't think it's A,

47:28

I don't think it's a terrible situation

47:30

for Walker to be your week one

47:32

starter means who your point. That.

47:35

Is why I prioritize the three Technique

47:37

Higher Death because I see you haven't

47:39

either. Eat, you don't have the right

47:41

you don't hazardous. You might may be

47:44

withdrawn deck year, but I I think

47:46

that's a huge leap of faith right

47:48

now. I mean. he i

47:50

still have the even a dexter's best and

47:53

i do i still do like dexter i

47:55

still do the geeky been impact player i

47:57

just don't think he's gonna consistently be that

47:59

penetrate three that when you talk to guys

48:01

who played in this scheme, who tell

48:03

you stories about Tommy Harris, and like Corey

48:05

Wooten raves about the stuff all the time,

48:08

how important it really is to get somebody

48:10

who can shoot the gap and consistently penetrate,

48:12

win off the ball with speed. And

48:16

that has taken a huge leap of faith for

48:18

a guy that you haven't seen in your building

48:21

since the season ended, that Jervon Dexter is

48:23

gonna take that jump this year. And

48:27

to your point with

48:30

Walker, he's there. And also you

48:32

signed Yani Kengakwe in August last

48:34

year. Like you can get, you have

48:36

Montez Sweat on your roster. You can

48:38

find another guy to get you four

48:40

to five sacks as the

48:42

number two defensive end off the street after

48:45

the draft. I don't think you can

48:47

find that consistent three

48:50

technique that

48:52

you know, now Justin Simmons is out there. He's

48:58

probably gonna sign somewhere after the draft, but that,

49:01

you know, that's like

49:03

as risky as Keena now and

49:05

playing all 17 games. If

49:08

you wanna go super old, like Kaleis Campbell is still

49:11

out there. He could probably help you somewhere on the

49:13

defensive line too. He's still, you know, Kaleis Campbell. But

49:16

I just think that the

49:18

need there on the interior

49:20

defensive tackle position is honestly

49:23

more important than the number two, because

49:25

let's not forget the number two defensive end. Not only do

49:28

they add Montez Sweat, they paid him a shit ton

49:30

of money too. I

49:33

think bringing this full

49:35

circle to wrap up, the

49:37

strongest arguments can be

49:40

made for defensive end

49:42

defensive tackle, then offensive tackle

49:45

slash offensive line or wide receiver.

49:47

Like the strongest arguments can

49:50

be made for the defensive line. This

49:52

league is about the passer and

49:55

affecting the passer. Here's more

49:57

facts for everybody listening. Bears

50:00

were dead last in the

50:02

league in sack percentage last season.

50:04

Even with Montes, even as good as

50:06

they were taking the ball away. Dead

50:09

last in the league in sack percentage.

50:11

You know who's number one? Kansas

50:14

City Chiefs. I've heard of them.

50:16

They won the Super Bowl. Decent team. Yes,

50:18

and let me just give you some other examples.

50:21

Miami Dolphins number two, playoff

50:23

team. Buffalo Bills number three,

50:25

playoff team. Baltimore Ravens number

50:27

four, playoff team. Cleveland Browns

50:29

with all their quarterback issues.

50:32

Sorry, Joe Flacco. Number five,

50:35

playoff team. So,

50:39

and they haven't addressed it at all this

50:41

offseason. That's what I mean. They've lost the

50:43

guy. The signs seem to be there. So

50:47

whether it's Turner, Vurse,

50:50

or Murphy, I

50:52

think that all three of them would

50:54

walk in in day one and improve

50:57

your pass rush. They would

50:59

be starters. They

51:01

would get after the opposing quarterback

51:03

and that sack percentage, even

51:05

if they're not the ones sacking the quarterback, will

51:08

go up for the Chicago Bears. And

51:10

I just wonder too, if they

51:13

take that defensive lineman in

51:15

the first round, how much of that

51:17

is also the Fluce Effect? Or your

51:19

head coach is a defensive guy, is your defensive play caller, and it's

51:22

time for him to be like, you know what? Like,

51:24

I'm coaching this team, I need this guy.

51:27

It was almost like, I remember when they took Leonard Floyd

51:30

and we were all kind of like, that was a Vic Fangio

51:32

pick. Like, that was Vic going

51:34

ahead and getting his guy that he needed for his

51:36

defense as they were kind of trying to rebuild that

51:38

thing. And I wonder if that's where Fluce just says,

51:40

all right, enough with,

51:43

we've done enough offense stuff, Enel

51:45

and Cale Williams, time for me to

51:47

go get my guy. Right, but

51:49

again, like, perfecting

51:52

the defense and getting kind of that missing

51:54

piece still does help your quarterback too. So

51:57

it's not like you're ignoring the quarterback at the same time.

52:00

I'm. So like, in

52:02

conclusion, I. When. Are

52:07

we the Us? Are you? It's amazing.

52:09

Like if it's like if I'm a

52:12

sign, defensive and like ice these are

52:14

work you know like well thank you

52:16

for doing that. Yes the as I

52:18

as a to do that was homework

52:20

as sweats or have poured and and.and

52:23

know it's. But. I

52:25

don't on not selected. This is what they're doing. Quick.

52:29

Question for the next draft

52:31

debate. Who. Gets May

52:33

Mccarthy Daniels in a one of

52:35

the best free back from one.

52:38

Are you a sign in those genes?

52:40

that means his passes over everyone is.

52:43

Please. I'll do that ever again. You

52:46

you know what you to do

52:48

is we're still trying to fail.

52:50

were doing Friday so you kevin

52:52

to do a solo pod or

52:54

that scenario. Coming

52:56

Friday and Hogan Jobs. And

53:00

buzzes. Success the hurts

53:02

worse is a fun exercise.

53:06

And hopefully I'm I'm. Enter

53:09

know I stand on all as they as I

53:11

do think that they can make. The best

53:13

thing is that they can probably go. Best player

53:15

available between these three positions. Kind

53:18

of that hybrid need/ Bp.

53:20

A they always talk about in it and I do

53:22

think that. There. Will be

53:25

a defensive player with blue grade sitting there

53:27

at number nine. Yeah. Further,

53:29

Ado. Listeners both here and see a show

53:31

know that this is probably the most prepared

53:34

Adam Hope will ever be for a draft

53:36

because he doesn't have to watch the Chicago

53:38

White Sox. Account

53:41

of applied last year though to serve

53:43

what I didn't think about. Don't you

53:45

just said that is that affecting or

53:47

make it easier. A. Wider

53:49

was White Sox because I north to do this

53:51

much homework on the spares. One hundred thing. I.

53:57

Have what had I have watched last Reapers

53:59

games. It

54:02

started off as a bit but it might actually be a thing. I'm

54:04

trying to figure that out right now. Cubs

54:08

cost me an extra half hour of sleep last night

54:10

because I decided to stay up to watch when I

54:12

saw they were only up 8-7. No, don't

54:15

care. By the way, shout

54:17

out to Northwestern Wildcats, the only team

54:19

in the NCAA tournament to outscore UConn

54:21

in a half. Wow.

54:24

Hang the banner. Yeah, you

54:27

did behind you. Right here. Congrats

54:33

to Northwestern on that. Wasn't

54:35

there like a 30-0 run

54:38

after that? Was that a

54:40

different game for UConn? That was the Illinois

54:42

game. Yeah, they went

54:44

a similar run in

54:47

the first half against Northwestern. But that

54:49

second half, the cat's almost covered in the end. So

54:53

you kind of beat up on the big 10 is what we're saying. Yeah.

54:57

Confer. Poor Purdue. I

55:02

don't know if I'd rather... Wisconsin

55:04

losing the National Championship was about as

55:07

bad as it gets for my career

55:09

fandom losses. But

55:13

they were winning with like eight minutes left in that

55:15

game, Wisconsin was. I almost

55:18

feel like it'd be better if I'm Purdue and I just

55:20

like, no, I never really had a chance in that game.

55:23

How was it for Northwestern? Yeah,

55:27

I mean, I think a loss like that, we're just

55:29

like, okay, they're just way better. There's nothing yet. What

55:31

are you gonna do? That's an easier loss to take.

55:33

You tip your cap. I'm still not

55:35

over what happened to us against Duke. All right. Well,

55:38

appreciate everybody listening to this Up

55:40

Until the College basketball segment. And

55:44

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55:46

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55:48

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55:50

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56:43

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