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last week's best of so much

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that we're gonna give you just a few more to close

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out the end of season two of

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Holding Court. Listen, this week, we are

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revisiting a few more marriage and divorce

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headlines from the season, because y'all

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know that information always bears

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repeating, So without further ado,

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let's get into it all right, So,

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Juice and Dora has definitely filed

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for divorce from her husband, Ralph

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Pittman. This is out of Real Housewives

0:59

of Atlanta news. Uh. We know that the first

1:01

part of that headline read differently. People,

1:03

We're up in arms, yeah, because the People

1:06

magazine article said that Ralph filed

1:08

for divorce. Uh, and that was real messy.

1:10

So we'll get to that and really, why that's important

1:13

for you. Uh, if you are listening jurors

1:15

and you are thinking about contemplating

1:17

divorce, were gonna zoom out on that one, right,

1:19

all right, let's start with Jusa Door and Ralph

1:21

with this messy divorce. Uh, so

1:25

let's talk about divorce filing. Yes, number

1:27

one question, does it matter

1:29

who files first? The

1:32

answer is it can. Now

1:34

I'm gonna go through these facts for Drew and Ralph

1:37

and the the the answer around their filing

1:39

order is it's not gonna matter much at all because it was

1:41

so close in time. Oh okay, you know why. You know, it's

1:44

cute and it's maybe, you know, social

1:46

media fier to talk about. She she filed a whole

1:49

sixty one minutes earlier, you know, So she filed first,

1:51

and they was running into the corn house and the race memes

1:53

and all that shit. But essentially, for a

1:55

courts perspective, they filed at the same

1:57

time. Okay, because they filed, they literally filed

1:59

at the same courthouse day,

2:02

on the same day, within

2:04

the same afternoon. Gwynnet County

2:06

shout out to them in Georgia, so that's important.

2:09

So they both filed within that afternoon

2:12

on the twenty seventh of February, Drew

2:15

is saying many things. Uh, let's

2:17

look, Ralph is saying this. They

2:20

separated on the nineteenth. It looks like that's

2:22

something they don't disagree upon. Ralph

2:24

wants joint physical and legal

2:27

custody. Those are two different things, by the way, break

2:29

it down real quick. Physical, of course, is what it sounds

2:31

like. Who the children are are staying with? Living

2:33

with? Legal custody is stuff dustin that

2:35

lets you decide where they go to school,

2:38

the decision, the decision making, the decision

2:40

making. So he wants joy for both. Fine,

2:42

I don't see that being a problem. And

2:46

they got two kids seven and five years old.

2:49

Ralph says that Drew makes enough money from her TV

2:51

show job to not need spousal support. I'm sure

2:53

that's true. He does say

2:55

that she's rolling in the Bravo dough, but claims

2:59

that she hasn't made any financial contributions

3:01

to their household throughout the majority of their partnership.

3:04

That's am okay. How

3:06

were they living because I still do you know what

3:09

Ralph does cheat? How

3:11

were they allegedly allegedly

3:14

Uh yeah, I don't okay that

3:16

that one does The math, not math. And on that, Ralph

3:19

says he wants to maintain occupancy of

3:21

his ownership brother of his Porsche and

3:23

his twenty eighteen Cadillac, and

3:26

then he wants, of course Drew to take responsibility

3:28

for her twenty twenty one Cadillac. Okay, that all

3:30

sounds standard, I will say generally speaking.

3:32

Now let's talk about what mister Dora saying. It's

3:36

just funny to me that my mama calls her Drew Silla.

3:40

And if you know that that reference

3:42

from the story from Young and the rest, Yes, the

3:44

story. Yes, I said, Mama, that woman's

3:47

not that's not Drusilla. Her name

3:49

is Drew Sodora. Yes, she's like girl used

3:51

that with Drusilla. That was wasn't that Victoria?

3:54

You know that was the legendary Yeah, Victoria

3:56

Raoul. Yes, yes, ma'am. Now

3:58

mama, mama and bought it back to life. But she juill

4:01

say anyway, shout out to Mamacalaria.

4:04

Drew has said in her

4:06

filing that Ralph is a serial cheater. This

4:08

is her allegation and an adulter who

4:11

has this is my favorite sentence in the whole filing allowed

4:14

his multiple paramours

4:17

to have direct contact and

4:19

to flaunt his affairs. She's talking about

4:21

them being able to DM her and just

4:23

essentially playing her face about

4:26

your man's in my messages yeah yeah, yeah, and

4:29

sending you know, all kind of pictures we'll

4:31

say, okay. Drew also alleges

4:33

that, while married, she was

4:36

tempting considering to follow

4:38

a temporary protective order huh

4:41

and take the children to Chicago where they could feel

4:44

safe. So that's a different kind of valegation, okay,

4:46

but again not uncommon, y'all. When

4:48

when people start talking about divorce and

4:50

custody and support, it's not

4:53

uncommon to start seeing these domestic

4:55

these undertones, right because

4:57

this not personally I don't like this kind

5:00

the thing in a filing because to me, it's it's like Montique

5:02

say, say you're planning and get off the off the school

5:04

yard, you know what I mean, keep it on the playground rather what

5:06

happens. So yeah, I don't really want to hear

5:08

about I almost filed at this and I almost

5:11

felt unsafe. Either you felt unsafe and

5:13

this is what you did about it, or keep it on

5:15

the playground. But but here we go. Drew

5:18

also alleges that Ralph was financially

5:20

abusive. That part seems believable to

5:22

me very much throughout their marriage,

5:24

and that he recently withdrew a large sum of

5:26

money from her bank account

5:28

is the way it's phrased in the complaint. The

5:31

two have been married since twenty fourteen,

5:34

so almost a ten year marriage there, and they

5:36

again have those two children reactions

5:39

before we get to the zoom out. Not

5:41

surprising if you watch The Real Housewives

5:43

of Atlanta the season she's she came on in

5:45

season thirteen, so

5:48

if you've been watching since then, it's not surprising

5:50

their marriage has been had all sorts of

5:52

problems and things happening that were as

5:54

a couple. Yeah, So I'm not surprised. I

5:57

just to see it get to this point

5:59

because to me, this is like nasty at this point

6:01

already. Yeah, from season one, I already

6:03

told you I wouldn't be involved in those ship like you

6:05

know that episode one season one. Keep

6:08

it playing, So I'm not surprised. Yeah, I just

6:10

you know, I hate to see another black family going

6:12

down the tubes, you know, you

6:16

know, I'm trying to find

6:18

something. Yeah, I

6:21

just had this glimpse of Mary Jay. You know, I'm

6:23

going down. Okay, Wow, because Ralph

6:25

ain't around. Yeah, because Ralph in Tampa,

6:27

didn't he go to Tampa that season. We still know

6:30

and we still don't know what happened. Ain't too much

6:32

to do in Tampa. Outside of going

6:34

to the game. You go be on the pirate ship at

6:36

the football game. Uh, justin stop?

6:39

Okay, So zooming out in

6:42

normal circumstances, who Matt who

6:44

files for divorce first

6:46

can matter? Okay? And let me tell you

6:48

how the person that files

6:50

first. And when I'm saying files first, I'm not talking about this

6:52

little petty shit they do in sixty minutes. I'm

6:55

talking about I filed a month ago or I

6:57

filed four months. Okay. So if there's

6:59

a somebody that files first, they

7:01

get the following in their advantage.

7:04

They have a choice of which court and location.

7:07

So if I'm filing and

7:09

we're married, Dustin, and I decide I'm gonna file

7:11

first, and you know, I'm just making this

7:14

up. Let's say you live in the

7:16

you know, Manhattan, and I need to file in stat And

7:18

Island because that's why I've taken out two children to feel

7:20

safe and refuge I can do

7:22

that, and now I have I've compelled you to

7:25

have to come to stat And Island to fight this litigation

7:27

with it. It established, It establishes jurisdiction.

7:29

Yeah, ok, exactly, it can Okay.

7:33

Also, and I think this is the most important part

7:35

of filing first. It also

7:38

establishes positioning. When you file

7:40

first, you are considered the petitioner

7:43

and the person that responds because literally

7:45

they are now the respondent to

7:48

what you filed. Now that probably will

7:50

apply to Drew and Ralph. It's just gonna

7:53

apply in a very semantics

7:57

kind of way because it was. But but

7:59

again, when there's more space in between

8:01

the filing, that can matter. Not

8:04

not that it should, right like, it shouldn't matter

8:06

if your petitioner or respondent. Your facts are your facts,

8:08

Your arguments are your arguments. But there's

8:10

something to be said for drawing first blood. You

8:13

know what communicate something? It communicates

8:16

something, and and there's already there's already

8:18

it's a It's a reason why they do a coin toss in

8:21

sports events, right Who who hits

8:23

the field first? Yeah, who's able to put

8:25

points on the board first? Can

8:28

matter? Hate to break it to y'all.

8:30

Okay, So the establishing of petitioner

8:32

versus respondent is something

8:35

that you get when you file first. You get to be

8:37

the petitioner. You also

8:39

get to control the timing, so to speak,

8:41

to some extent, because you are initiating

8:44

jurisdiction, you are initiating

8:46

the timeline. So there's just more control

8:49

that you get when you file first. This

8:51

is another one. You get the first chance to file all

8:53

those temporary orders, and a lot of times they come

8:56

alongside the filing for the divorce

8:58

in the first place. So I'm filing for the oh

9:00

and I'm also, by the way, y'all to ask of a a temporary

9:02

spousal support, custody

9:04

of the children, child support, temporarily

9:07

protective orders, as Drew kind of played

9:09

with, looks like in this complaint. All

9:11

of that, the freezing of joint funds,

9:14

all of that is under your purview

9:17

when you file first, and then the responder

9:19

has to respond to those requests.

9:22

So you know, it's really about positioning.

9:25

And the big one is what I said, the ability to draw

9:27

first blood. In all hearings and trial.

9:30

You will go first, just like in a criminal

9:32

case, the district of the state, the prosecutor,

9:35

they get to go first, and the defendant is put

9:37

in the position of defending responding

9:41

secondary. That's what you're talking

9:43

about. Okay. Now, from

9:46

the Dustin Ross school of keeping a player, what

9:48

you can be jurors is like Auntie

9:50

and her ex husband, who really kept a player,

9:53

And we did something called filing jointly. A

9:56

lot of people we don't hear much about this, but

9:58

if it's truly, Amica, you

10:00

can save yourselves a lot of time and a whole

10:02

lot of money by filing jointly,

10:05

one joint proceeding one

10:07

joint filing one joint order

10:09

of divorce. My ex husband and our were in

10:11

and out in six months. I never even saw the inside

10:13

of a courtroom. That's the way it should be. Yep.

10:16

Well, we was broke, both broken when they have ship. So

10:18

that did make it easy. If we didn't have any children and we didn't

10:21

own any property. So if you're in that type

10:23

of situation, and even if you do have a little something,

10:25

if y'all can come to those terms

10:27

on your own and say, your

10:29

honor, we have decided this is irrevocably

10:32

broken. We have decided she gonna keep

10:34

that, I'm gonna keep this, the children gonna

10:36

do this, and this is what we've agreed to

10:39

sign on the dotted line filed that fucking

10:41

clerk sty out yea and keep it

10:43

cute yep. I love that. Yeah,

10:46

because all this messy back and forth nastiness

10:49

details being shared, and

10:51

again I just I don't like almost.

10:54

Don't tell me that you thought about

10:56

filing for a protective order, right, tell

10:59

me you did it or you did not, or keep it out of

11:01

my court room. Yeah. Wait, you wait till this judge

11:03

of Oh I can't wait, baby, I wait,

11:06

ma'am, ma'am, ma'am.

11:09

I can see and hear you right now in my head,

11:11

presiding presill

11:14

rise. Okay, So

11:17

that's there for them too. So listen, jers, if you

11:19

or someone you know and love, it's not like a personal injury

11:22

lawyer. I consider it

11:24

called one hundred joint

11:26

five. Uh no, h

11:29

really really think about the joint following option if

11:31

you can. Yeah. Uh, it really is an ideal

11:33

way to go, I would say. And if if it's

11:35

contested, which happens more often

11:37

than not, uh, you know you, you might

11:39

want to go ahead and get get to the courthouse on time, yep.

11:42

Going to get down there and establish that positioning because

11:44

otherwise you're gonna be a respondent. And

11:47

again that's nothing. It's not the end of the world for Ralph or

11:49

anybody that files. Second, it's

11:52

just the ladies

11:54

that wear pink and green say. It's one rule, be

11:57

first, never second. M you better

11:59

talk your AKA shit. You know, I

12:01

got my old eight shout

12:04

out to so fresh and Greek. I

12:07

hope to make this the last time we discuss this

12:09

particular situation. I'm holding court with

12:12

well, you know, it's let's let's tell me why,

12:15

because I feel like ray J is a snake.

12:18

I feel like he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. He

12:20

plays this likable personality,

12:22

you know, as as as much as you can

12:25

can like a you know, a person when you

12:27

know as many things as you know about ray J

12:29

and the choices that he's made. Right, But

12:32

he, like I said, he plays to the camera. He

12:35

plays up this you know, likable guy next

12:37

door personality.

12:41

Forty some year old motherfucker's is

12:43

right in bed with them Trumps

12:46

and all of that. The Trump's Kanye

12:49

West say, these white nationalists

12:51

say, it figures that talking here that they've attached

12:53

themselves to, he is right in bed

12:56

with all of them right down there at Marilago,

12:58

right and all the dinners. There's photographic He's

13:01

hiding in plain side, yes, and

13:04

no one is holding him accountable, and

13:06

no one in the culture really is holding him accountable.

13:09

We are over here. We are over here. I'm

13:11

so glad you said it first

13:14

because I was gonna get to it. But I love that you bought

13:16

it up. You took first blood on that because

13:19

ray J is playing in our faces Floyd

13:22

Mayweather two, but

13:24

but ray J specifically, because I agree with you. I think the

13:27

culture is more scrutinizing

13:30

a Floyd around other issues. I think

13:32

with ray J, he does get this bubble

13:34

protection. And I really do think

13:36

it's as simple as him being Brandy's little brother. Me

13:39

too, because who wants to be mean to Brandy so

13:42

much? She matters to us. She is

13:44

important to the culture. But first,

13:47

you know, our first black Cinderella. She's just so many

13:49

things. But ray J

13:51

is not Brandy, and that's an important

13:53

distinction. And he is down there

13:55

in Marlago. He is up in Trump's face.

13:58

I believe we'll actually see him on this and pain Trail

14:00

I do two and it's gonna be I hope we do,

14:03

though, I hope we do see him on the camp. You know, I just

14:05

had a thought, you know, so I was also covering this on Degrell

14:07

with dy K Williams. You can find that at six pm check

14:09

your local listings. But how about

14:11

that we're talking about how Isaac

14:14

Hayes the Third and the Estate are suing

14:16

Trump, or they might be having to sue Trump

14:18

for playing his daddy's song hold

14:21

On, I'm coming. I

14:23

got a solution for Trump. Don't even

14:25

worry about it. Go ahead and start playing one wish.

14:30

Don't play one wish. If I had

14:32

one wish, it would be

14:34

back in though never

14:38

I'm not gonna see quiet. But yeah,

14:40

go ahead and start playing that one wish and don't worry about

14:42

it. Wow. Well, it's just so like I said

14:45

that for me, You're right,

14:47

you know, I just

14:49

for me, like ray j has lost all credibility

14:53

all you know, I'm complete.

14:55

If you're paying attention, yeah, if you're

14:57

paying attention to how ray Jay's moving, it's actually

14:59

a problem. But you know what, I believe

15:02

that it will when

15:04

you let things play out dustin it all

15:06

come to the light. He gonna he gonna he gonna do it to himself.

15:08

He's not smart. Ray Jay's has some business

15:11

success, you know, some of his products have sold,

15:13

you know, good for him, even that I'm looking at

15:16

like, I love business success for black people.

15:18

I just I need to see the book. I would

15:20

too, because I don't believe that's what I'm saying. I

15:22

would trust like, yeah, I sold, you know.

15:25

So Now, his current

15:27

legal issue that we're discussing, hopefully for the last time,

15:29

I'm holding court today is family court

15:31

matter he has been. I mean,

15:33

they've been going back and forth around separation and divorce.

15:35

It feels like since they got married, since they were introduced

15:38

to us. Yes,

15:40

she's a very cute young lady. Could you tell me what

15:43

she did? But she was she a model. I'm

15:45

not sure what she did I this

15:48

context of her being with ray exactly,

15:50

Okay, same, I'm not saying, I'm not minimizing.

15:53

No curious you know, I you

15:55

know, I don't be knowing. So so ray

15:58

J and Princess Love have

16:00

been going back and forth around this marriage. It seems

16:02

they have finally decided to officially and legally

16:04

divorce. So as we've talked about and holding

16:06

court before, one of the ideal, best,

16:09

quickest, cheapest ways to secure a

16:11

legal divorce. It's through a mediation. Okay,

16:14

let me tell you the benefits. Number One, you and your

16:17

strange spouse share a legal representative.

16:20

That's the that's the key benefit. So you're

16:22

not paying two lawyers, you're paying one I

16:24

normally ideally, and that one

16:27

legal individual is higher to remain

16:29

objective for both people and

16:31

help you split up all the things your

16:34

home, your equity, your

16:37

pensions, if that's at play, child custody,

16:39

support, division of property, etc. Mediation

16:43

allows there to be one feet around that. It

16:45

allows you to come up with what we call a consent

16:48

decree, a consent where parties are

16:50

in agreement around this is what we agree

16:52

to do. I'm not saying this is easy. It

16:54

sounds kind of clear cutting simple. Sometimes mediations

16:57

can take three months to a

16:59

year just trying to hammer

17:01

out what that agreement could look

17:03

like. Absolutely, but I would contest

17:06

ust to ross that it is well worth it

17:08

if you can make it happen under that way,

17:10

because if you can't, which ray J and Princess

17:13

Love apparently have not been able to do. After

17:16

many, many months of trying to do a mediation.

17:18

They failed. They're conceding that they

17:20

cannot come to terms and a mediation. So

17:23

now they have to do what go to trial, take

17:25

ship to trial, take it to trial. And that's that's

17:27

literal litigation. Damn that's

17:29

so. Now that's two lawyers, that

17:32

is a million settings in court. So

17:35

it's not just one day. This is pre trial,

17:38

this is testimony, this this

17:40

this rebuttle, all this shit, and

17:43

so now we're talking about probably millions of dollars for

17:45

this divorce break.

17:47

First, of course, now that's what's gonna

17:49

say. Now, the other side of that is, I'm not saying

17:53

just make any deal work in mediation

17:56

for the sake of making a deal. There is a scenario

18:00

where your strange spouse

18:02

is being so unwilling

18:05

to make a reasonable mediation

18:07

agreement that you have no choice

18:10

but to go to trial. And then

18:12

to your point, typically what

18:14

happens is a Christmas miracle

18:17

right before we go to court. Let's

18:20

talk uh huh, you know, you know

18:22

the game, and that's exactly what it's gonna play.

18:24

Because you can't tell me that if they go to trial

18:27

after all of the ship, that

18:29

we all

18:32

the footage we hit, we we literally have footage

18:35

of him, you know, push

18:37

her in a pool, like all kinds of stuff. She

18:39

claims prostitution that he was using

18:41

by It's just that is not a deposition

18:44

that Ray j Ever wants to come to the light of day,

18:46

and that all becomes public domain the minute

18:48

you go to litigation, the minute princess

18:51

stay strong baby and just sit sit this one

18:53

out, ride it out. But lead

18:56

lawyer up and ride this out. Lawyer

18:58

up, ride it out, it play

19:00

out. I do want to say this, and this

19:02

is not about Princess Love in particular, but

19:04

the one thing, like you said, when I was literally

19:07

introduced to who this woman was, it

19:09

was actually on her wedding dot. It was the wedding photo.

19:11

Because I'm not really a love and hip hop person, so

19:13

I didn't know anything about their backstore, but I knew that

19:15

he was getting married, and I saw this gorgeous

19:18

woman and this gorgeous dress. I would never

19:20

forget her dress. I actually remember this dress very specifically.

19:23

It is from the

19:25

Lazarro bridal collection. You can probably

19:27

get it at Client Fields, right, but

19:30

it was a very beautiful, timeless dress. And

19:33

again, this is not about Princess Love specifically, because I don't

19:35

know anything about this young lady other than she is beautiful.

19:37

Yes, But I just want to say this to all of our jewels.

19:41

Some of y'all say

19:43

you want to be married. You maybe

19:46

think you want to be married. Some

19:48

of y'all want

19:50

the pictures. Some

19:53

of y'all want

19:55

the dress, Some

19:57

of y'all want your client fields

19:59

moment. Maybe you want

20:01

the ring, maybe you want a

20:03

beautiful cake. I

20:06

don't say that from a place of judgment. I

20:08

say that from a place of experience. On

20:11

some level. If I'm being very

20:13

honest with myself, Dustin Ross, I

20:16

think that is what led me down the aisle the first

20:18

time I got married. But

20:22

let me tell y'all something, especially you younger

20:24

jurors out there. Once

20:27

you post the pictures on Instagram,

20:30

and during my day it was Facebook, I tell you

20:32

how old my ass is, and

20:34

you get your likes,

20:37

and you get your comments, and you get your

20:39

DMS telling you how beautiful you look

20:41

and how wonderful it is. Shortly

20:45

after that, it's just gonna

20:47

be you and that motherfucker, every

20:50

day, waking up doing

20:53

life and going to sleep. I

20:57

say this to say,

21:01

do you want to be married? Do

21:03

you seek marriage and all

21:05

that comes with it, which can be a

21:08

very beautiful thing, but almost

21:10

by every account I've ever heard, is a

21:12

deeply challenging thing. And

21:15

getting out of a marriage dustin Ross

21:19

is almost always a nightmare. So

21:23

just think long and hard. Do you want

21:25

marriage or do you want

21:28

a wedding? Because

21:31

we live in an exceptional time. We

21:33

live in a time. You know, I still got my wedding

21:35

dress from my second marriage, I mean my second

21:37

planned wedding. It's

21:39

right there on riverside at the at the storage

21:42

and it's a gorgeous Who

21:45

made this when my first one was a gorgeous I'm sorry, you know I've

21:47

always had an eye.

21:53

My first gown was a stunning blue label.

21:55

I'm Salih. Shout out to I'm Sali. She's a beautiful

21:58

African designer who passed not long

22:00

ago. That dress was scored. I would

22:02

wear that dress again. It was you know, I picked a dress that

22:04

was timeless. My second

22:06

one also timeless. This one's remacre. Oh

22:09

yes, love, great silk,

22:11

Yes, yes, yes, let

22:13

me tell you something in a minute. Don't

22:16

be surprised when you come to your friend's birthday party.

22:18

You got the damn I got that motherfucking dress on

22:21

a celebration, actually looked up but actually

22:23

actually live because she's I'm very serious. My celebration

22:26

is a celebration. It's a white dress, and I

22:29

paid for it, but actually should be told,

22:31

you know, the tea. He paid for it as

22:33

he should as he should have period, But thank

22:36

you. Yeah, party gift. But

22:39

I might have that motherfucker on and I don't,

22:41

and I don't want to hear shit, why not just get

22:43

it cut up in the front so it's short in the front like

22:46

my oscar. Yes,

22:50

there you go, matter of fact. And when shoes

22:52

I wore two Bravo cons the

22:55

wedding shoes. Wow, they were

22:57

beautiful and they'll beautiful again when

22:59

I wear with this will they sure will?

23:02

Yeah. But I mean that's that's the whole point of what we're talking

23:04

about, right, It's more than just a

23:06

day, it's more than just a ceremony. And

23:08

oftentimes you fuck around, fuck

23:10

around and find out you end up in the same situation

23:13

as Princess is love. Yeah, and so that's

23:15

the thing. You know, I'm not saying she didn't. You know, love

23:17

Ray Davi with all our heart and want that marriage to work. I'm so,

23:19

I'm certain that she did have children together. Yeah,

23:22

but but I'm just this is just more broader.

23:24

I'm zooming out. You love

23:27

that, Yeah, zoom out, zoom out? Is it

23:29

is? What is it that you're really priority?

23:33

What is it that you're really seeking? Because

23:35

especially in this Instagram Eero Dustin,

23:38

it's easy to get to a place

23:40

like here's one thing I've noticed and I'm sure you've noticed

23:42

this too, Like you got your show

23:45

on Revolt at on Black, I

23:47

got degree. You know, we have these milestones

23:49

in life, whatever they are. You know, somebody

23:51

could buy a house, somebody could you

23:54

know, survive cancer, somebody could

23:56

do with it. But nothing on social

23:58

media ever, it's

24:00

the likes, comments and

24:03

feedback that engagements,

24:06

weddings and baby announcements. Yeah,

24:09

you know nothing nothing. I

24:11

could cure cancer and they'll be like

24:13

that's nice bit. Yeah,

24:16

but if you got engaged. He was taking photos.

24:19

Oh my god, the bus, isn't

24:21

it crazy? Telling too? Telling?

24:24

So just something to think about. Yeah, before

24:26

you walk down, before you jump, you jump

24:29

the bra make sure you sweep around your own front

24:31

door. I'm getting them corners,

24:33

okay, get that angle bull Okay,

24:35

you better get that angle and lift it up. Get

24:37

in there, Okay, listen, get that's

24:39

what you gotta do. Kim

24:43

Zosiak and Kroy Beerman. You know,

24:45

we don't do a lot of stories that center whiteness

24:47

on this show. I thought you said white

24:50

mess, said white mess.

24:52

I thought, because that's what

24:55

this is real?

24:57

And am I entertained absolutely

25:00

lee here, So Kim

25:02

and it's not white miss. Oh god, I'm

25:04

gonna see if we can get away with naming this episode

25:07

white miss. Probably not, but I'm

25:09

gonna try it anyway. So

25:11

Kim and Kroy breaking

25:14

news are not gonna work out. I

25:16

think many of us, I at least saw this coming for

25:18

sure when they first when she was first

25:20

commenting about his his rear

25:22

end on the show Dance. Yeah,

25:26

I said, when this cash flow run out, baby,

25:29

Kim is at the door. We saw the riding on the

25:31

wall. I remember in the and

25:33

then we'll get to the story because I ain't trying to interrupt

25:35

your flow. But I remember in that season

25:37

for a reunion, when Andy asked him, Kim,

25:40

I I feel like you guys are spending

25:42

all your money. He said that to her. He

25:44

sure did, he said it to her back

25:46

then. Yes, so there is a season

25:49

four four they're on like fifteen.

25:53

Oh baby, so y'all remember, uh

25:56

he was a long time ago an NFL

25:58

linebacker Coy Beer. I mean I think he for the

26:00

Falcons for a minute. Yeah. Anyways, he admitted

26:03

him and Kim right now, I'm going through a divorce

26:05

is very public now. He proy

26:08

admitted that he is staying under the same

26:10

roof as his estranged wife, Kim

26:12

Zosiak, because he's too financially

26:15

strapped to live elsewhere. And I believe

26:17

that, honest. Yeah. Now let's move on

26:19

the couple. I think they have

26:21

both on different occasions, called

26:23

the police several times during volatile

26:26

disputes that have happened in front of their children.

26:28

They got a bunch what they got six between the two

26:30

of them, four together. And then she had two daughters

26:32

previously that he adopted. Oh he did not

26:34

those two yellow and they're grown women now okay,

26:37

but they do still have like four that are school

26:39

school under ten fours.

26:42

That's young. The

26:44

police report also shows how the estranged couple

26:46

seems to either be struggling to survive

26:49

while or they are engaged in Penny pinching

26:51

brawls. So what people are, what the cops

26:53

at least are are doing here, which is interesting,

26:56

is their heart's nots

26:59

is funny. That's a funny phrase, right. Essentially,

27:02

law enforcement is saying in the police reports

27:05

because this must be what they are getting from Kim

27:07

and Croy for sure, that the

27:09

fighting, the violence, and

27:12

that part serious, right, is a result

27:14

of the cast strap situation.

27:17

And by the way, that's not uncommon, which

27:20

is another reason I need the owner. Anyways,

27:22

Up, I'm

27:26

gon keep it about them right now. But here

27:28

we go, some of us no, because

27:30

we know, because

27:33

you've seen, when you've seen like I've seen.

27:35

Let me keep let me get it back over here to the white mess

27:39

that these penny pinching brawls are

27:41

around. One of them wanting to liquidate

27:43

certain assets. One of them not all

27:46

of this ship. All of it's going to be of course

27:48

handled in divorce courts soon. But

27:51

they're really literally fighting hand

27:53

over fist around how to devvy up these

27:55

little bit of assets they got left. It's very sad.

27:58

Police also responded to their Hilton Georgia

28:00

home on May fourth, after

28:03

the Real Housewives of Atlanta star call nine one

28:05

one to report this is a damn

28:07

shame to report that Corey had

28:09

taken her designer purses and pieces of

28:11

jewelry. She estimates the worth of those

28:13

items to be one hundred and seventy five thousand, along

28:16

with her passport and locked them

28:18

all inside of the basement of the home. Now

28:20

this is a separate report. I

28:23

know I saw that Kim was online and I think this was

28:25

verified that she was selling some of her more popular

28:27

wigs for like twenty five hundred apiece. The

28:31

responding officer had this saying

28:33

the report this is what the officer said,

28:35

y'all. I met with Corey, who stated that he

28:37

believed that the purses and jewelry

28:39

were marital property. He

28:41

might have a point there, put a pin in it. Corey

28:44

explained that he took several persons because he planned

28:46

to liquidate them to help offset some of

28:48

the debt. Radar Online

28:50

first responded that Kim and Corey followed

28:53

dueling divorce petitions, so similar

28:55

to uh, Drew in, Yeah, when

28:58

I was racing to the court, he did you get a race Drew?

29:00

It was his name, Ralph Ralph transpant

29:03

no displaying because

29:05

it's sensitivity Okay, don't even

29:07

get me started on that man, uh,

29:10

because you know I knew him in LA before. Wait,

29:14

wait till these mics go down anyway, file dueling

29:16

divorce petitions. I may asking

29:19

the court to award uh. But they

29:21

both want primary custody of their four

29:23

minor minor children, and

29:25

they both want child support, and they both want

29:27

spousal support. So this is a situation

29:30

where so much to say.

29:32

I'm gonna start with this. Kim

29:35

called herself. I believe. I don't know

29:38

Kim, but I believe that she really thought she was marrying

29:40

up. I believe she thought she was

29:42

marrying someone

29:46

who would be the dominant

29:48

financial provider, only

29:50

to find out now. I don't know why she would think such a thing,

29:54

because we all know they call it the NFL for a

29:56

reason. We all know it's

29:58

not for long, not for to

30:00

be fair, Kroy had a longer, much longer career

30:02

than most. Yeah, but when

30:04

you are here's what we also know about

30:07

money and wealth at at our big ages, Dustin,

30:09

it's not even about how much income you're bringing

30:11

in because because they both separately

30:13

made plenty of money, and

30:15

they certainly made plenty of money together. I was talking

30:18

about this to my mc glory because she was so confused. She's like,

30:20

because I know she made money on uh

30:22

Tardy for the Party,

30:25

went eight seasons of Yes, I was gonna say,

30:27

so even if we lowball that, let's

30:29

just lowball it and say she only made

30:32

six fiftieth season eight

30:35

seasons, and then I know she would. I

30:37

know, you left Atlanta Housewives making

30:39

close to a million, like Kim has

30:42

made no less than four

30:44

million dollars like minimum,

30:46

probably more. And that's just reality

30:49

TV checks, that's not I think she

30:51

was on Dancing with the Stars or whatever.

30:54

Right, y'all should see Ustin's face right

30:56

now, you know.

30:59

But anyway, but but you know, just we're

31:01

just there have been opportunities for her

31:03

to be in a better financial

31:06

position than she's in. Okay

31:08

to say it modeless, I'm just

31:10

gonna say, like you made, you made at least four million

31:12

dollars by my eyeball test minimum,

31:16

Chroy, you probably

31:18

made twenty five at

31:20

least. You know, so between the two of y'all,

31:23

we're talking about at least thirty million dollars between

31:25

the two of you. Yeah, probably much more. So.

31:28

My mother's question is how in the world. Are

31:30

they broke now? But to your point, let's go

31:32

back season four when Andy Cohen says, y'all, you

31:34

no matter how much you make, it matter how much you spend.

31:36

That's right. So when you are trying to

31:38

spend on par with and

31:41

a lot of NFL players do this. You

31:44

are second string,

31:46

maybe third string, you might even you might

31:48

whatever, but you're trying to spend

31:51

like Lamar Jackson.

31:53

It's just it's not balanced. Yeah,

31:56

you're trying to work, You're you're spending like,

31:59

uh, you know what's your boy

32:02

Jalen hurts. You know you're spending. You're spending

32:05

like you're making two hundred million dollars on

32:07

your contract when your contract might be six

32:09

million with you know, a nine back in

32:12

if you don't get hurt. So

32:16

that's the problem. Kim really thought that. And

32:18

some women do this. I

32:21

think Gabrielle Union would say that she did this in

32:23

her first marriage where you give Mary

32:25

to say he also was an NFL player, right, right, You

32:27

get married to these men presuming

32:29

that they are going to be the financial

32:32

provider and that you will get to play the part of

32:34

defend dependent. Excuse me, I

32:36

did say defended that was Freudian slip, and

32:38

that you're gonna become a defendant, and became

32:42

a defendant first she was a dependent and not

32:45

get defend you're gonna be wearing depends

32:48

the ship you're going through. You know what I'm saying,

32:50

Like, this is crazy. This is something that I'm

32:53

talking to the women right now, Dustin, y'all, y'all

32:55

need to really look at this. For all of the

32:57

jokes and laughter, this is a serious

32:59

issue. Because women that make

33:01

some money, and that some six and some

33:03

significant money, you marry men

33:06

that you think are so

33:08

far ahead of you financially when they're really

33:11

not that far, if at any,

33:13

and then you end up sucking around and becoming

33:16

their financial peer, and

33:19

then you're mad about it. That's

33:21

what That's why, if indeed the allegation

33:24

is true, and Kim did

33:26

punch him, that's what that punch was

33:28

about. Yes, it was about you supposed

33:30

to be the breadwinner. Yea, you were supposed

33:32

to be the rich one. I was supposed

33:34

to have married the pro athlete that was going

33:37

to take care of me, and now here

33:39

we are selling my wigs and birkins, and

33:41

and I'm mad about it, and there's nobody's fault,

33:43

but they're all like you

33:46

said earlier, Ye, this speaks directly

33:48

into the mediocrity of it all. This

33:51

speaks direct into the

33:53

laziness of it all, the entitlement

33:55

of it all, the lack of foresight of it all.

33:58

Oh my god, Evan, I'm telling you right now,

34:00

if I get rich, I'm gonna be rich for the rest of my life.

34:02

That part I have no doubt, and it's gonna

34:04

be a win. You get rich, I'm going

34:06

to be rich for the rest of my life because you cannot

34:10

it just well, particularly these

34:12

people that make the money with these fleeting skill sets.

34:14

I mean, let's talk about that too. Not

34:18

well, that's the problem is what your

34:20

wealth was based off of a

34:22

moment in time in history. Let's just

34:24

be very honest about it. You don't have any actual

34:26

skill set. You cannot sing has been

34:28

proven, and you cannot act. You

34:30

don't have a skill set. You had what

34:33

you and Nini together actually

34:35

created, which was really magic for a

34:37

moment. Thank you. And what we have

34:39

seen and trust me, I know about this

34:41

better than most have firsthand experience,

34:44

is that that cultural moment of

34:47

women acting badly at

34:49

their big ages has really

34:51

overstated it's welcome. Let's and

34:54

the ratings reflect that. Look at Atlanta

34:56

Housewise ratings, and I don't think I think that's a good cast.

34:58

It's not about the cast almost, but

35:00

it is. I mean, you know, it's it's a relatively

35:03

good cast. There have been much worse cast

35:06

with better ratings. Yeah, that's what we do. Let's

35:09

just say that. So it's not just

35:11

the Oh, it's the cast. It is the fact

35:14

that nobody wants to admit this, but I don't give a fuck.

35:16

The reality is that formulation

35:19

of you

35:21

know, antic based, spectacle

35:24

based women at their big

35:26

forty plus fifty plus sixty

35:29

plus in some franchise ages acting

35:31

a shitty mess and being messy and

35:33

gossipy with one another and their husbands and

35:35

their marriages had its moment.

35:38

It was a very big, long moment. It

35:40

was over ten years of the moment. It was an enjoyable

35:42

moment. It was a culture

35:45

changing, phenomenal moment

35:48

that many among us myself at

35:50

the top of the line, enjoyed, and

35:54

it acted and yeah,

35:56

you know, we we we continue to who

35:58

gonna check me booth? I mean that stuff will live

36:00

in infamy forever but

36:02

the sad reality for some is

36:05

that the moment has come in the moments is

36:08

waning and for some of it, but for

36:10

some of you, the moment is absolutely gone.

36:13

Okay, And I know that's a hard pillow

36:15

swallow because you you now have

36:18

to suffer the bitter truth

36:20

of what we were talking about on the previous

36:22

week's episode. Yeah, you lacked a

36:24

skill set in the first place. Yeah,

36:27

okay, So I was reading this thing to

36:29

your point of being getting rich as Dandridge

36:31

forever. I have no doubt that's going to be the case

36:33

for you, and I know for damn she's gonna be the case with myself.

36:35

Come on. But in the instance

36:38

that it would not be just because anything could happen

36:40

theoretically, right. I heard an interview

36:42

with Mark Cuban where he talked about what if

36:44

he lost everything and he said,

36:46

and I actually believed him, and I do

36:49

believe him. He said, well, it would suck like us.

36:51

But I'm not overly wary because

36:53

the same skill said he says,

36:55

I am a salesman, and no and

36:57

tell God takes my ability to sell

37:00

away from me. Just like I made that first

37:02

billion, I'll make it again. And

37:06

in that case, it's true. You

37:09

know, so when you have a skill set you

37:11

don't, you're not worried in the same way. Now let's

37:13

go to Kroy's dumb ass. So you

37:16

made your wealth, like many

37:18

in your industry, off of your athleticism,

37:22

and that's a wonderful thing, and God bless

37:24

all the people gifted with athletic

37:26

ability. But what you have to know,

37:28

much like a model, much like

37:31

you know other traits, that

37:33

is a depreciable skill set on its

37:35

face, But Father

37:38

time waits for no man, woman

37:40

or they. Okay, So

37:42

therefore, Kroy, you knew

37:44

at some point your earning ability

37:47

would deteriorate like all other

37:49

professional athletes. Yeah, that's why they're talking

37:51

about Lebron right now? Yea, you know,

37:53

so your inability

37:56

to be long sighted around what additional

37:59

skill set are you acquiring? And this is

38:01

where for all of her problematic, many

38:03

many, many behaviors, the one thing I

38:06

really have to respect about Tyra Banks is

38:08

that this was a woman who understood this

38:10

face and this body got a shelf

38:12

life. And so therefore, if

38:14

I want to have the kind of wealth and lifestyle

38:18

and in cultural impact that I really

38:20

want to have for duration I

38:22

have to develop an additional skill

38:24

set. Oh my god, Candy

38:27

is a case at case and

38:29

point. Come on, already

38:31

saw success as a as a as an artist.

38:34

Flip that dribble that ball right into

38:37

long term success and it has not a few

38:39

times Candy, right, I mean you

38:41

saw it with the Candy coded nights.

38:43

Yeah, content sheet

38:46

that into a commercial product, and

38:48

now she is literally one of the most pre

38:50

eminent producers

38:53

a Broadway content of a generation.

38:56

You know. So it goes back to skills,

38:58

y'all. So because Kevin Kroyd had uh,

39:01

what do you call it, depreciating skills?

39:04

Uh, they find themselves in this white mess.

39:07

That's what this is. This is this is a white mess. And

39:09

then I'm saying this and we're gonna move on from these two. Let's

39:12

talk about the fact that they are cohabitating. Now, Corey

39:15

is saying, I'm here because I can't afford to be anywhere

39:17

else, and I believe that to be true. But

39:19

I'm talking to a friend of mine. He's getting good divorce

39:22

or he claims. Anyway,

39:28

let's just be telling too much truth out here. But you know how

39:30

mother fuckers be talking. Sure, yeah, you

39:32

can get a divorce for two years. Okay,

39:35

anyway, go give me some skittles. Claim

39:39

claim he getting a divorce. But

39:42

and so I'm like, well, why don't you

39:44

move out? And why don't you do this? Because he's he's just promise

39:47

you. He's just my friend. And he

39:49

made a good point actually, that his lawyer brought

39:51

up to him. I said, Na, it's been a while since I practice

39:53

family law. That's a good point, and I'm want to put it

39:55

on the show for jurors to listen to. He

39:59

she, or the who voluntarily

40:02

leaves the house does

40:04

do something to their legal right

40:06

of residence when it comes time for

40:08

that equitable distribution

40:10

of the marital property. Yes, say

40:12

it another way. If

40:14

you pack your ship up and you leave that

40:17

house willingly, the

40:19

judge is more likely to

40:22

presume that you can be I without

40:24

that house because you've shown that you've availed

40:27

yourself away from the premises. And

40:29

if there is a property

40:32

dispute over rights to that particular

40:34

marital home, the person that's in the

40:37

house likely prevails. Yep, that

40:39

makes perfect sense. Hence the war the

40:41

Roses. If you're of a certain age, remember

40:44

that film which I watch

40:46

it from time to time just to remember the stakes

40:48

for real, Okay, for real, for real, because

40:50

that was the whole point. And they were both you know, they were

40:53

rich, so it wasn't a we can't leave, it's

40:55

a sometimes that's a choice, Dustin ye

40:57

like, nah, you leave and

41:00

and sometimes that works. But

41:02

sometimes, as we say, it led to death

41:04

and water roses, and right now

41:06

with Kim McCoy, we're seeing alleged punches

41:08

and abuse. So sometimes that house

41:11

isn't worth it. It's what I would offer that sometimes

41:14

that house is simply not worth it, and

41:16

you need to figure out where you can lay your

41:18

head, whether it's your mama house, your

41:20

friend's house, your grown ass children's

41:22

house, you know, until you

41:24

can figure that thing out, because the property

41:27

will come and go, your health,

41:30

your well being, that's

41:32

a finite thing. So that's

41:34

all I got to say about them. That's that.

41:38

That's definitely all I have to say about them. Good

41:40

God, bless God's speed. I hope

41:42

they figure it all out, you know what I'm saying. But do

41:44

you think everybody's speculating? You think Kim is gonna be back

41:46

on Atlanta Housewives? I

41:49

think that's just such a lazy

41:52

solution. To all of this. I don't care.

41:54

You know what she needs to do. Take her ass

41:56

to Zeus because Zeus is gonna

41:57

show all this shit. Zeus is gonna

42:00

show her in Kroy fighting that house.

42:02

She gonna show what's really going on. So

42:04

they go ahead of night can They're gonna have all of

42:06

that. While I while I love the idea,

42:09

you know what I'm saying of her returning to take that shit

42:11

to Zeus, see what's really going on over get

42:14

a better cuts. You

42:16

know, you'll be an executive and do

42:18

your do some real thing. That's where that's

42:20

to me, that's alignment. You know,

42:23

she's perfect brand. It's a perfect fit

42:25

for Zeus. Take that to Zeus.

42:27

They need a diversity. Anyway, some some of y'all

42:29

understood exactly what he just said, and that's right. Some

42:32

of you did, and shout out to Zeus. Shout out to Zoos.

42:36

This man in Spain. So this is in

42:39

the country of Espanol. Okay

42:42

over in Europe. A Spanish

42:44

woman by the name of Avana Morale. She's

42:47

now gonna get two hundred and fifteen

42:49

thousand, and she's gonna

42:51

get it in payments so she can manage it,

42:54

which some people need to pay, some people need

42:56

a payment plan. That's right. She's

42:58

getting a monthly payment of about five hundred

43:00

and twenty eight dollars for a very long time. And

43:02

this is this is gonna be her divorce settlement d from

43:05

her divorce from twenty twenty. We're

43:07

getting this from ie News in a Spanish

43:09

language paper El Pais. A

43:13

judge in Spade based the amount on

43:15

what would have been the minimum monthly

43:18

wage, which is again that's how he got

43:20

that five hundred and twenty eight dollars number for

43:22

her twenty five years of service

43:25

within her marriage. Now something to say, yeah, what kind

43:27

of service? Well, miss

43:30

Morale says she was doing all the work of the house

43:32

and the home. She says that she was

43:35

taking care of her two children. She's also got a separate

43:37

child support payment coming, but I want to focus

43:39

on the spousal support right. Of

43:42

course, her husband will appeal, but in the meantime

43:44

she's gonna get that five twenty eight. And

43:46

she says that she exclusively handled

43:49

the couple's housework during the marriage.

43:52

Quote her exclusive dedication

43:54

to the home and family while her ex husband

43:57

accumulated and exponentially increased

43:59

his as sets. And that's the good old

44:01

fashioned, old school argument, right that

44:05

while I put my career

44:07

on hold for whatever reasons, whatever wealth

44:09

building mechanism I could have executed during

44:11

the marriage, I forewent that in

44:13

lieu of supporting this man to go out into

44:15

the world. And he's building assets, and he's

44:18

building well and in her case a

44:20

rookie mistake on her part. That's unfortunate. But

44:22

but people do this. All the assets are

44:24

in his name. We just got through talking about

44:27

this. Yep, you know, here's

44:29

Miranda. Where's Miranda when you need

44:31

it? Where's Miranda Hobbs, Where's Miranda?

44:33

To read your rights? These are real Miranda

44:36

rights. Miranda. Let

44:38

me tell you something. Do you understand? Nod yes,

44:40

and say okay, I need an affirmative. That's

44:43

right. Okay. He's

44:45

building gym businesses, he's living

44:47

this affluent life. All of the property y'all

44:49

have acquired as a couple are in his

44:52

name only. And see, depending

44:54

on where you are in the world. You know this

44:56

is a you know, this is holding. Court goes

44:58

global, Yes, it does. Okay, where

45:01

you are in the world. Everywhere in the world does not subscribe

45:03

to some of these domestic presumptions.

45:07

Yeah, where we presume

45:09

community property. So although maybe he

45:12

made the money, certain jurisdictions

45:14

here in America will automatically

45:16

presume you to be a fifty percent partner in that

45:18

and will automatically give you half of that based

45:21

off of presumptions of marital community. What

45:24

we do know, Dustin, it's not every state in America

45:26

even identifies and respects

45:29

community property arguments. It's

45:32

state by state, so we know once we we coup

45:34

across that pond. Yeah, it's

45:37

a whole different scenario. So

45:40

again, this is why Dustin ends to show y'all every

45:43

episode. We read your terms of conditions, understand

45:45

the consequences, the legal consequences

45:48

of what happens when my marital spouse,

45:50

and this is gender neutral, this is a she,

45:53

he or they situation. When

45:55

that individual, whoever they may be, to

45:58

alex to put all

46:00

marital assets in a singular name,

46:03

that can have a dire consequence. Which is why

46:06

this judge says, I'm I'm I'm

46:08

gonna run the math to say you get first

46:10

of all the fact that he's the

46:12

judge only awards her minimum wage. I

46:14

think it's telling right, It's

46:17

not great. I don't, especially not for the kind

46:19

of labor that she said she was doing. You shouldn't be getting

46:21

minimum wage and you gotta live with the motherfucker

46:23

on top of that, right, one thing if you do at work

46:25

correct, you know, and also your hours.

46:28

What kind of hours are we talking about? Twenty four

46:31

that's it, twenty four hours

46:33

shift, that's it's how often you work in it? Seven

46:35

days a week, seven days a week, three sixty five.

46:37

So come on now. So to me, actually,

46:40

people were saying, you know, oh my god, that's amazing. Ship,

46:42

that's that ain't shit. I thought it was low. I

46:44

thought it's very it's giving very low ball. I

46:47

did the math, and then I went kept reading and saw

46:49

how y'all had already did the math for that's

46:52

how much it was. Wasent'

46:55

shit. She goes on to say,

46:57

this was an abuse to be completely

47:00

excluded financially by my

47:02

ex husband with nothing left after

47:05

my marriage ended. So me and my daughters

47:07

are left with nothing after all these years of putting

47:09

all my time, energy and love

47:12

in the family. That's

47:14

sad, but I'm

47:16

glad she's getting something. But again, I think the number

47:18

is really low, she says, I was supporting my husband in

47:21

his work and in the family

47:23

as a mother and a father. Oh. I

47:26

was never allowed to access his financial affairs.

47:28

Everything was in his name. You know. Again,

47:31

this is this is

47:33

a whole story. People

47:35

are getting sick of the bullshit though, you know

47:37

what I mean. They're not just walking away from these

47:39

relationships anymore like people are now.

47:42

They're not allowing the more wealthy person

47:44

to just leave, you know, playing their face

47:46

scot free. Yeah, okay, and playing

47:49

their damn face. That's people are speaking up

47:51

now. This feels a little bit different than

47:54

the other case we talked about with

47:56

Tiger Woods. Right, this is different.

47:58

This is deserved. This This is for

48:01

all her years and fears and her tears. Okay.

48:03

And she was actually legally married, not

48:05

for nothing. Big that's a huge, big,

48:08

actual difference in the court of law. You're

48:10

legally married. You have two children with

48:13

this man. He that's also different,

48:15

right, Tiger Woods was Tiger Woods when

48:17

you met him. Uh, Erica siss

48:19

Okay, So he was not wealth. Now,

48:22

his wealth might have increased during your relationship,

48:24

and that's all You're gonna have privy too, and it had nothing

48:26

to do with you. He was already up. Correct. This

48:29

is different with this young this young lady in Spain.

48:31

This man was Joe Shmo who.

48:34

And then because of her commitment

48:36

to the house and home, I'm sure her make

48:39

making meals, making them comfortable, folding them

48:41

sheets and ship fluffing them pillows,

48:44

You're able to go out into the world, sir, and build

48:46

this lucrative gym business. So

48:48

there is a presumed partnership. See

48:50

this is this is the basos of it all. You

48:52

know, anybody that was in their feelings right

48:54

about mckids he getting all that money right,

48:57

don't beat don't because she earned

48:59

that. She earned every scent. That

49:01

was a collaborative effort. Amazon

49:04

was born in their garage. And

49:07

you can't even Jeff, by his own admission,

49:10

talks about the importance of

49:12

McKenzie. You mean to tell me you know McKenzie

49:14

was mentored

49:18

by Tony Morrison at Princeton.

49:21

Really, yeah, I mean fucking win mckenziel on

49:23

the low low. I mean it's not really on the low at all. It's

49:25

very high key. I didn't know that. Yeah, Yeah,

49:27

that's why she gives a lot of money.

49:30

When she first got that settle me, she give a ton of money to

49:32

HBCUs. She gives a ton

49:34

of money too. I mean she gives a ton of money to everything.

49:36

I mean that's what you get to do when you got about six hundred

49:38

billions. But

49:42

she she makes it her business, Dustin, to give

49:44

a ton of money to black

49:46

centric spaces due to her

49:50

unfortunately unique consciousness

49:54

of black need and

49:56

black contribution

49:59

to this world. Dude, when you're mentored

50:01

by the Tony Morrison, come on on

50:03

the campus of Princeton University, come

50:06

on, you know a little bit about the good

50:09

news about what being black and Americans?

50:12

Right, So I love the mckens

50:14

that get every motherfucking dime and she

50:16

deserved it. And again, this Princeton educated

50:19

woman, you think she had nothing to do with

50:21

the foundational development of Amazon as

50:23

we know it. Good luck with that.

50:25

That's it she okay,

50:28

okay, So

50:33

yeah, that's you

50:35

are crazy. I

50:38

am crazy, right though. Like

50:40

that is literally the long and short

50:42

of it, the emphasis on the loan

50:45

the money, run me my money. So

50:48

yeah, I love it. I'm very glad for this

50:50

woman. If anything, I think that the dollar amount

50:52

is low. And and and again, ladies,

50:55

gentlemen and non binary

50:58

individuals, I'm

51:00

not saying it's anything wrong with being a house

51:02

husband, partner, whatever.

51:06

You might want to get your paperwork in order

51:09

to say that this is an agreed

51:11

upon emphasis on agreed upon contribution

51:15

of equal value, emphasis

51:17

on equal value. And in the case

51:19

of dissolution of

51:21

this, you

51:23

get this. I get this. That. That is the whole point

51:25

of a prenup. Simplify

51:28

everything. That's it, because everybody's

51:31

everybody's not gonna keep a player. Everybody does not read

51:33

from the good Book of dust Ross. They don't,

51:36

and that's why you need to have these protections in place.

51:38

That's it. And you can't depend on a judge

51:40

to be in your face. You know this. This woman in Spain got

51:42

a favorable ruling from this particular

51:45

judge. I imagine if

51:47

she'd run up on a judge who felt like he he or

51:49

she or they got taken advantage of in their own divorce,

51:51

it was like, fuck you, bit, you ain't getting ship. Could have easily

51:54

happened, very easily happened. People

51:56

have strong, as they should feelings attached

51:58

to that experience. That's it. Somebody

52:00

taking you know, and their from

52:02

their POV, taking your ship what you've

52:04

earned or whatever. There's a bitterness

52:06

that lives there, and a vitriol and a

52:10

and a resentment and ah and a

52:12

need to take that out on other people.

52:14

So you know, judge's discretion is a

52:16

delicate thing. So you know,

52:18

but for this particular judge's discretion

52:21

to even get her that two fifteen and

52:23

to get two fifteen over twenty years ain't

52:26

really shit. Yeah, so

52:28

y'all, y'all gonna y'all gonna learn one day, get

52:31

your paperwork in order and keep it

52:33

that way, and refresh them

52:35

papers as you refresh their relationship

52:37

because things change. Yeah, I mean, look at some

52:39

of y'all's favorite reality stars. I'm gonna leave it

52:41

right there. Did

52:44

you really say that? You

52:47

know? I did? And again

52:49

people better be so glad I say less than what I

52:51

know. Oh you

52:55

know, I love it on this side because it's this capital

52:57

E. That's right, And I don't really be show

53:00

that side too much. I like it with capital E

53:02

jump out a little bit, but you know, you know

53:04

she in there, that's right, all

53:06

right, So I'm gonna leave it right there. Okay,

53:09

with the capital it's really nowhere else for it to

53:11

go, because that just is what it is what you

53:13

just said. And those that know no, no,

53:15

all right, if you know, you definitely know, y'all

53:18

join us again. That's gonna be the dismissal. I

53:20

need to get my gavel of you. That's

53:22

the dismissal for this week's session. That's right.

53:24

In the meantime, stay safe, keep the

53:26

faith. And this is a real good one for this

53:29

week's show. If there ever was a week for

53:31

you to put your pupils on them terms

53:34

and conditions, this is it.

53:36

Read your terms and conditions,

53:38

please the pupil and the iris. Okay, and

53:40

the iris because that's a very important part.

53:42

Okay. You need the totality of the eyes.

53:44

You need the totality of the optics on your

53:47

terms and conditions. Okay, all right,

53:49

there, y'all go. Enough good legal

53:51

info for y'all to chew on. Whether you're

53:53

single, engaged, married, divorced, or

53:56

other one other thing. Get familiar

53:58

with a good lawyer, okay, because you

54:00

never know when you're gonna need one, and

54:03

whether you're thinking about, you know, somebody

54:05

else joining your life or anything like that.

54:08

It's always good to have a really good

54:10

attorney a phone call away. All

54:12

right, y'all, In the meantime, stay safe, keep

54:14

the phase, put your sunscreen on, It's still

54:17

summer outside. And, in the famous

54:19

words of Dustin Ross, read your

54:21

terms and conditions. Holding court is an

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54:30

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54:32

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54:35

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