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everybody. Welcome back to

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Holly Randall Unfiltered. I

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am elated today to

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bring you a

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guest that I have been wanting to have on

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the show for so long. And, you know, we

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tried to actually make it work a few years

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ago during COVID, but it didn't pan out. But

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she's here today. And I'm actually glad that we waited

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because she's been through a lot of life changes. And

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I feel like we have so much more to talk

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about. So welcome, please, the one

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and only Jada Stevens. Hi,

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guys. So

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Jada, first of all, great to see

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you. It has been a minute. I know. We

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do have so much to talk about. And it's funny,

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because we were really like getting into it before we

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even started recording. But you know, I like to always

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kind of start from the beginning. So tell me

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a little bit about growing up and how you

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found your way into the adult industry,

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because you were 18 when you started, right? Yes, so

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especially 18. I was already dancing

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at a strip club in Atlanta. So I feel

1:17

like that kind of like opened the doors to

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be comfortable to be on camera naked

1:23

and doing things. But yeah,

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that's pretty much like what I was

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doing before. And I ended up meeting like somebody that

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worked in Miami for Bang Bros. And they

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were like, Oh, like you would be great at this job. And

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I'm like, Yeah, I don't know, you know, so

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I took the chance I didn't have a boyfriend at the

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time. So I took the chance went to Miami

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shot for Bang Bros. And here I am.

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How was that first experience? Do you remember who was

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what? I think was

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it J Mac? Preston or J

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Mac? I can't maybe Preston for

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the first one then J Mac. But it

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was scary. I'm such a shy person in real

1:57

life, like unless I'm comfortable, like or I know.

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you know what I mean? Like I'm pretty shy so it

2:02

was actually pretty scary because I was like oh my god

2:04

what do I do? But then

2:06

like after I did it I was like oh

2:08

that wasn't that bad. Obviously I kept doing it,

2:10

kept doing it but I'm such a shy person

2:12

so still to this day if I were to

2:14

go shoot a scene I'll be giddy like in

2:16

the beginning until I get in my room. Yeah

2:19

yeah yeah. What was like some of the things

2:21

that you were nervous about? Was it just being

2:23

on camera? Was it about doing it right? Was

2:25

it about like how it would affect your life?

2:27

I mean I think that I what's crazy is

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I didn't think about how it would affect my

2:31

life at first and that's probably what I should

2:33

have thought but I was thinking more

2:36

of like is it gonna look good? Like

2:38

what I look like you know like you know

2:40

does mine look like everybody else's? Like that type

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of stuff because I'm young you know what I

2:44

mean? So you think any of the criticism you

2:46

get that we got back then is not

2:48

the same. Yeah. Now people are harsh with

2:50

like things back in the day

2:52

versus now. Yeah yeah. Accepted and people are just

2:54

of course you're gonna hear negative stuff but you

2:56

hear a lot more positive stuff. But

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yeah I was more nervous like I said more of

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what I looked like if I was doing it right

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but I feel like that's how I got better. I

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think I was always pretty good but I think I got better

3:08

by more and more and more.

3:10

Yeah. Now because you were 18 coming

3:13

in you know there's been there's a lot of people talk

3:15

about like is 18 a good age? Is it a

3:17

bad age? Should you be older? Like what's

3:19

your experience with that? I definitely feel

3:21

that you should be older. I feel like your

3:24

mindset at 18 still isn't like for

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me like a grown adult with making great

3:29

decisions but I mean you know I

3:31

was definitely mature for an 18 year old but I still think

3:33

you should be older to do porno.

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But it worked out for you. Yes. Yeah. So

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you did those

3:40

things for Bang Bros and then how did your career

3:42

move forward from there? Well I was with a

3:44

small agency down there and I feel like

3:46

they took me to LA for the first time

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and I started going on GoSeas and ended

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up meeting with Derek. LA Direct was huge

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at the time so like I ended up

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taking the chance and signing with him and

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shooting for bigger companies like. So

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that's like really where it started for me in

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LA. Was there, what was the

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first like big company that you shot for where

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you felt like, oh, this can actually be so

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much more than just like

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an amateur kind of thing? Hustler.

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Yeah, okay. Cause that was like really like, you

4:16

know, when you think of stuff, I always thought Playboy

4:18

and Hustler were like, I was like,

4:20

oh my God, oh my God. So like when they called to

4:22

bookie or whatever, I thought it was

4:24

a big deal. And I think there's many more companies, but

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that was the first one where I was like, oh my

4:28

God, like I'm in LA, I'm gonna

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be a big porn star. Was it for one

4:33

of their videos or was it for the magazine?

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It was for the videos. It was like scary

4:37

big dicks. It was, they forget his name, like

4:39

Rick something. He used to shoot all their

4:42

crazy stuff. So like crazy, you

4:44

know, crazy young girl sites, you know?

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Yeah. Were there any performers

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that you worked with in your early days that

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you kind of looked up to and felt like that's

4:52

like where I wanna go or were you just sort

4:55

of doing scenes and day by day? Yeah, I

4:57

really wasn't, I've never really watched porn like that

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and I never really like knew, but I knew

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once I got in and I started meeting people

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who I kind of like idolized. Like I

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think it was like Christina Rose, Jenna Hayes,

5:09

that era, you know what I mean? Like

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was right before me. So I always like

5:13

looked up to those girls. Yeah. So

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you're definitely known for your ass,

5:19

obviously. But big

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butts weren't really like the look when you got into

5:24

the industry, right? No. Like

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how were you nervous about that?

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Did you ever get any kind

5:31

of flack about like your ass

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or was it always an asset?

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Definitely an asset now, but I would say

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like, it really wasn't a thing when I

5:40

got in the industry and actually coming from

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the South, like a

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lot, it just wasn't a thing. Like people really didn't

5:47

like big butts back then. It's really crazy. I mean,

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I can't say everybody, but a lot of people and

5:51

then in the industry, it was more like still blondes

5:53

and big boobs was the thing when I got in.

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I think me and Alexis Texas really set the tone for like big

5:59

butts. girls. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now

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most of your scenes are anal. Yes.

6:04

Like when was your first anal

6:09

scene? I would say probably like

6:12

I was 19 turning 20. Okay, so you'd been

6:14

in the industry for like a little bit before.

6:16

Yeah, they kind of prolonged that as long as

6:18

they can. But I was like

6:20

all in at that point. Had did you do

6:23

anal a lot in your personal life? No, but

6:25

I had tried it. Okay. And you knew that

6:27

it really wasn't like porn anal. But right, right,

6:29

right. Trying it. So what pushed you

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to do anal? I mean, was it like, did you

6:34

were you doing like a big showcase? Were you getting a

6:36

lot of money or it was definitely more money,

6:38

but I feel like nobody was really doing so

6:40

this is the thing for me. And I feel

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like it took me far and made my career

6:45

is like nobody was doing IR and nobody was

6:47

doing anal like that, especially white girls with black

6:49

eyes. So I found my way that's

6:51

something I did in my personal life. So I was

6:53

like, I took that and kind of ran with it,

6:56

even though my agents weren't happy about it. Yeah, but

6:58

I was really successful. Pretty much

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why I'm here. I mean, it's kind of wild,

7:02

right to look back at those times. I mean,

7:04

now it's, you know, hindsight 2020, like

7:06

the fact that it was, you know, like a

7:10

milestone to shoot with like a black performer,

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like how do you like looking at that now

7:15

and where you're then and where

7:17

you're at now? Like, do you have any thoughts

7:19

about that? I mean, I love to see it

7:21

how it is now. Because I feel like we

7:24

progressed a lot in that sense. Yeah. But then

7:26

I just always like, did what I

7:28

want, like, I've always just done what I want. I didn't

7:30

care. Like, the rate I didn't

7:32

care, like what, you know, the thought of what people

7:34

are gonna think at the time. And so like, that

7:36

was the crazy part for me. But I'm glad I

7:38

did, you know, stick to yourself and

7:40

like what you feel, you know, but your agent

7:42

was trying to pull you back from that. Yeah,

7:44

because for whatever reason, I feel like

7:47

they try to make it a bigger deal. So you

7:49

can get more money and all of this. But at

7:51

the end of the day, like I just never felt

7:53

like that was something to get more money for. I

7:55

got more money with showcases, bookings,

7:58

like doing bigger scenes. like gang

8:00

bangs, whatever, you know, I said I'm looking at like for

8:03

a skin tone. Yeah, more money.

8:05

Yeah, I know. It's actually, I

8:08

mean, ultimately, it's totally like racist.

8:10

Yeah. And it's like, it's but it was acceptable at

8:12

the time. It was. Which I just know, I just

8:15

remember how mad my agent got at me. He's like,

8:17

you ruined your career. He's like, I could have got

8:19

you so much more money. And I was like, well,

8:21

I just did what I wanted to. Yeah. Like, I

8:23

never looked at it. When they first asked me, do

8:25

I do IR? I'm like, what the hell is that?

8:27

Like, I didn't even consider it. I are I didn't

8:30

think of it like that. So yeah, just a thought

8:32

process. I'm glad to see it is where it is

8:34

now. Yeah. I mean, you must also feel like good

8:36

about your decisions now be like, dude, I was right

8:38

all along. Yeah, you always do with what you feel is

8:40

right. You know what I mean? And what you want to

8:42

do, like not what other people want you to do. Yeah.

8:44

So tell me about your first anal scene. What was that

8:46

like? And who was it with? Who

8:49

was my first anal scene? Oh, my

8:52

goodness. Crazy. Put

8:54

on the spot. There's so many. Um,

8:58

I want to say it's gonna

9:01

sound crazy. But I want to say it was either like Shane

9:04

Diesel or Mandingo. Like we're one of

9:07

my first ones. So

9:10

to like the biggest dicks in the industry.

9:12

I know. So I mean, whose decision

9:16

was that? And how'd you feel about that?

9:18

I think it was definitely like, bang bros

9:20

decision as far as like, you know, the

9:22

black some blondes is what it was for.

9:24

So just for

9:27

the aesthetic of it. But I tried it because

9:29

like, I was just down at the time, like

9:31

to do big things. And it's like, they actually

9:33

like push your ego, you know, when

9:35

you can do these things. So after

9:37

like, I was getting those boosts, you

9:39

know, as young as boost yourself confidence,

9:41

everything. So I just wanted to try

9:43

everything that people weren't doing. Yeah, I

9:45

mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Diesel was huge. Shorty

9:48

Mac was huge. Like these guys were all big,

9:50

like, challenges, you know, yeah.

9:52

So that's like where I was at with that.

9:54

But it was still nervous. I was still scared.

9:56

Like, yeah. How did you prepare for

9:58

it? Um, I didn't

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really know as much when I first started, but

10:03

I mean they kind of tell you a little bit here and there, you

10:05

know, but basically I didn't eat. That

10:09

was the only for sure way I knew I was going to prepare for it.

10:11

It was to be totally clear, but

10:13

that's pretty much all I did to

10:15

prepare back then. So what

10:17

is your process now? I mean obviously you know your

10:20

body a lot more now. A lot better. I

10:22

mean I still don't eat the night before. If

10:25

I eat anything it's like a banana or something. And

10:27

then you just clear. I mean really just for me is

10:30

being in a good head space before so it's like the

10:32

more calm I am. Like if I'm

10:34

stressed I don't like to shoot on those days because

10:36

I just feel like it's all muscles.

10:38

It is. I need to be

10:40

relaxed totally. Yeah. You know? Yeah,

10:43

no absolutely. What is the craziest thing

10:45

that you put up your ass for a scene? I

10:48

think we touched on this at

10:50

a point, but I feel like

10:52

probably like milk enemas, whipped cream

10:54

cans, and golf balls. Wow.

10:57

So tell us a little bit about how like the milk enema

10:59

works because not everybody has seen one of those.

11:01

No and it's definitely like a whole niche.

11:04

I feel like you know so obviously

11:06

you would have to super clean out because you don't

11:08

want chocolate milk. I

11:12

don't know why I wasn't expecting that. Because

11:15

it's like literally focused on your asshole

11:17

and like the whipped cream so it's

11:19

like there's no room for anything else

11:21

you know. But

11:24

it's crazy how like strategic Jason was like

11:26

the king of the kings of this stuff

11:28

back in evil angel days and like he

11:30

would cut the whipped cream cans and like

11:32

kind of like melt the top so it

11:34

was like smooth so we could literally just

11:36

stick it up her ass. Oh.

11:39

Yeah because they're kind of sharp.

11:41

It'll cut you. Yeah. Like

11:43

the skin stem back there. So he had like

11:45

this special little way and then he would that's

11:47

how we would get the whipped cream up there.

11:49

But obviously it's still dangerous to put aerosol like

11:51

anywhere up there. But you don't think about that.

11:53

You're young. You're like right. Yeah.

11:57

This looks cool. You know. all

12:00

like just down to do like crazy shit. Like

12:02

it was like Amy Brooke. They were just crazy

12:04

girls and they did way crazier stuff than me.

12:06

But when I was around girls like that, it

12:08

would make me, I'll be like, oh yeah, let

12:10

me try this. Yeah, up for the challenge. But

12:12

the whipped cream's crazy. I feel like it's not

12:14

one of my favorite things to do. And then

12:16

also we would put milk, like it would

12:19

be like rice milk or like soy milk and like you

12:21

would empty it in a month and put it in there

12:23

and then you would shoot that up there. So you would

12:25

literally like shoot the, shoot it back out your ass. It's

12:27

just a really like crazy niche, but

12:29

it's so, it's crazy. And then

12:31

your partner would drink it out of your butt, right? Yeah,

12:33

or we would have like, he had like these little like

12:36

racetrack things. So she would be at the bottom and you

12:38

would like push

12:40

it out and it would go down these tracks and like- Like

12:42

a little Hot Wheels? Yeah. It's

12:45

fucking crazy. Wow. It's crazy

12:47

now to reminisce on those things. Yeah. Because

12:50

when you're in the moment, you don't think of it. You're

12:52

just like, oh, this is crazy, but not like how it

12:54

is now. You're like, this really sounds crazy. Yeah.

12:57

You know? And those were, that was in

13:00

the early days of the internet when I

13:02

think people were pushing the envelope so much

13:04

because you could, because before you were

13:06

so restricted by distribution, you

13:08

know, DVDs could only

13:10

like certain states where they

13:13

didn't allow anal. So like certain DVDs

13:15

couldn't go to that state. Right. Canada

13:17

had a lot of restrictions. So it was

13:20

tricky. I know like with magazines, we

13:22

didn't shoot penetration until the internet came

13:24

along because then it pushed that envelope.

13:27

And I think once there was this

13:29

place that you could release content and you kind

13:31

of had no restrictions because the

13:33

distribution was worldwide, people just went

13:36

crazy. It was at the porn Olympics. No, it

13:38

really is. And I feel like, what did they

13:40

kind of like go back to like, what's

13:43

the word? Not monitoring, but there's

13:45

still certain things you can't do now. Yeah.

13:48

Because then, you know, like Max hardcore always

13:50

shot crazy stuff. Like when I was coming

13:52

into the industry, that was like crazy.

13:55

And then they're like, oh no, like you can't shoot

13:57

stuff like that. You know what I mean?

13:59

Yeah. His Visa

14:01

Mastercard have come down pretty

14:03

hard on mom. Certain. Things

14:06

you know they want process for you. Dot.

14:09

Was because of the scare with. The.

14:11

whole point of thing. ramp and am.

14:14

But I think it like it's weird because I guess

14:16

it depends on a site to. Some sites are stricter

14:19

than others. I guess it's some sites are more afraid

14:21

of losing their billing than other ones are and announced.

14:23

It's kind of a weird mix by the French sought

14:25

maybe in different parts of the world's you know that

14:27

like. Europe. And Budapest always

14:29

shoot crazier stuff fiasco here.

14:32

Yeah, Did. You

14:34

see, measure Max sorry could you ever worked

14:36

with him? know by out of my agents

14:38

didn't. He. Not recommend me to enough that

14:40

it was like you as a big. Deal.

14:43

Like when I got an industry, everybody was like

14:45

if you are dirty they're and I feel like

14:47

that's ultimately like. I wanted

14:49

to prove that I was a porn star the

14:51

I did it all to desolate porn stars like

14:53

that at all. Yeah, like anal dp and just

14:55

crazy stuff. but I'm glad that in certain sense

14:57

I listen to some amazing yeah it's not about

15:00

certain things. I always felt like I knew it

15:02

out what was good for me but I also

15:04

knew that they know a little bit of what's

15:06

going to be a good look and what's not

15:08

going to be or for going to be happy

15:10

he ain't with those is gonna say cause it's

15:12

like he. Was. Very much about not just

15:14

like hard core sex scenes. There's a lot

15:17

of people that do that at that are

15:19

so like respectful to the performer you know

15:21

like they check in with you and if

15:23

my much them fullback like it was. his

15:26

goal was literally to break close down mentally.

15:28

Yeah and like make. Them cry remember Look

15:30

Rebecca Lynn are as good a seen

15:32

with him and she was like shoes

15:34

wilde? Yeah! Like that girl was hard core

15:36

and yeah he like Thomas has her. yeah

15:39

that's so crazy how and not. I am

15:41

glad I never really did anything that traumatized

15:43

me or oh it's like. Regretted.

15:46

Yeah, not a meme, but I'm glad that I definitely

15:48

listened with certain things, you know, See

15:50

don't have you seen that you did that you

15:53

regret know I mean I have seems that I

15:55

did that i wasn't like parcel to like a

15:57

gang bangs the i tried one or two. as

15:59

it is This wasn't my thing, but I don't regret

16:01

it. It was something in experience. I wanted to

16:03

experience it and I did it, but

16:06

nothing though. I was like, oh my God, wish I

16:08

would have never did that. Yeah. What

16:10

was it about gangbangs that didn't appeal to you? I'm

16:12

like, I don't know. It's just too

16:14

much stimulation. I feel like it was

16:17

too much going on. My body told me that, you

16:19

know what I mean? So like my body was rejecting

16:21

it before, you know, my mind was, you know what

16:23

I mean? But it looked amazing. It

16:25

served its purpose. So I feel like was, but

16:27

it just, I like, I'm more. As

16:30

I've even gotten older, I'm more of a

16:32

one-on-one sexual person. Like even a threesome is too much

16:34

for me. Adding

16:36

women is different, but as far as men, you know,

16:38

as I've gotten older, I just like more one-on-one type.

16:41

No, that makes sense. That makes sense. What

16:44

are your favorite kinds of scenes to shoot? I

16:46

love, I mean, obviously I love anal,

16:48

but I really do like doing

16:50

regular boy-girl scenes, but I never really did

16:52

much of that. Pretty

16:55

much majority of them are anal, but I feel

16:57

like I also had a boyfriend in the beginning

16:59

of the industry and I always try to like

17:01

save my pussy for him. So in

17:03

my mind, I thought I was like, you know, I'm

17:07

like saving her, you know? Yeah. It's

17:09

like the religious kids that like have anal,

17:11

so they can have virginity for marriage. Yeah.

17:14

So that's like how that started. And then I

17:17

was like, so you'll see a little, you know,

17:20

play with that, but it's mainly all

17:22

anal. Yeah. Was dating hard

17:24

for you? Yes, it still is. Yeah. And

17:26

I feel like that we kind of

17:29

like give, I don't know

17:31

how I'm trying to word this, it's kind of like what you

17:33

get when, you know, like you in

17:35

this industry, you have to give up something and it

17:37

makes it very hard. I'm not going to say it's

17:39

like impossible, but it just makes it a little harder.

17:42

What is some of the challenges that you face?

17:45

Like what are the things that come up the

17:47

most for you? I guess just attracting really the

17:49

right person. I feel like it can attract the

17:51

wrong, just the

17:53

wrong type of person, but also to just

17:55

like trust

17:57

in just having somebody understand. I feel like that. it's

18:00

gonna be very rare to find somebody that

18:02

truly understands that this is work and nothing

18:04

more, nothing less. That you

18:06

can come home and you can be normal. I'm such

18:09

like, when I'm in a relationship, it's

18:11

like a double life, you know? Like I

18:13

come home, I'm a totally different person, literally

18:16

on set, so I just think that, I don't

18:18

know, finding a right person that can understand the

18:20

lifestyle and really love you unconditionally. Because

18:22

I feel like a lot of this, like you'll meet

18:24

people and it's just, they conditionally

18:27

love you for what you

18:29

can do and what you wanna do. Do

18:31

you get that situation where you start dating

18:33

a guy and he's excited to be dating

18:35

Jada Stevens? Yeah. And then once

18:38

you're in a relationship, he's like, wait a minute, this

18:40

thing that I liked you for before is now

18:43

a problem for me. Yeah, they're attracted to the

18:45

light and then they wanna dim it later and

18:47

make you feel a type of way. I've had

18:49

that in multiple relationships. It's like they fall in

18:52

love with a porn star and then they don't

18:54

want you to do things or make

18:56

you feel a type of way for doing things.

18:59

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19:01

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20:46

you know what movie I'm gonna bring up. Yes. And

20:48

it is a movie that I suddenly forgot the title

20:50

of. It was

20:52

for digital playground and

20:54

it was a Dungeons and

20:56

Dragons like theme.

20:59

And what the fuck was it called? I

21:01

can't believe I forgot what it was called.

21:03

This is like an F. I keep thinking

21:05

flesh or flash, but it was not that.

21:07

Oh my God. How

21:11

do we not remember what it is? Oh my gosh, I'm

21:13

literally drawing like of mine. Oh my God.

21:15

Ernie, can you look at it for me? Can

21:17

you look at a digital playground? Jada Stevens? Holly

21:21

Randall? Maybe.

21:24

I don't know. I

21:26

hate that I've done Dungeons

21:29

and Dragons. It should

21:31

pop up. It should pop up. Yes.

21:36

I knew it was one word. Oh my God.

21:39

Thank you. No, no,

21:41

no. Way off. Like

21:43

flesh. Quest. Oh my

21:46

gosh. Okay. So Quest, how

21:49

much do you remember from that day? I actually

21:51

remember. It's something I'm gonna remember probably for the rest

21:53

of my life. I just

21:56

remember in a slight way chain mail.

22:00

rocks and

22:02

swords and barefoot. Yes.

22:07

So Jada played

22:10

a berserker and

22:12

this was in a time when

22:14

digital playground like literally didn't really

22:17

consider like casting in terms

22:19

of like who would work for certain

22:21

roles. It was more just like we want big names

22:23

and we'll just throw them in anything and like who

22:26

cares. So

22:28

you are a berserker you are with it

22:30

was with Derek here's you had to

22:32

do sword fighting. Yes, which

22:34

we learned briefly briefly for 20

22:37

minutes before that's all I could get. I

22:39

got like a sword master to come on.

22:41

Real swords and he was like, here's a

22:43

20 minute demo go right. You

22:46

were in knee-high high-heeled

22:48

boots. Yes on uneven

22:51

dirt floor with wood chips. Yeah, which

22:53

eventually we ended up taking them off and I

22:55

was barefoot but yeah, there was heels and then

22:57

the chainmail was like real chainmail was like and

22:59

I was probably like 115 pounds

23:02

in time. So that was like

23:04

so heavy in general, but it looks so

23:07

good. So so yes, it was also 115

23:09

degrees. It was

23:11

the hottest day of the year and it

23:13

was the day that Netflix came to

23:15

set and shot the fucking hot girls

23:17

wanted documentary like that day like

23:19

the worst day and we were just

23:21

having all of these like scheduling problems

23:23

and I had to like shoot so

23:26

much stuff that day, but I remember

23:28

about the chainmail specifically because so it

23:30

was like a chainmail around here and

23:32

then it was attached to a really heavy black

23:34

cloak. Yeah, and when you were in the Sun

23:36

the chainmail was burning your

23:38

skin. Yes, because it was like the Sun

23:40

was like so we would have to keep

23:43

coming up to you and lifting the chainmail

23:45

off of your skin. So that

23:47

like you wouldn't burn and just cooling me off.

23:49

I don't remember a bunch of that and then

23:51

like I just remember to it was so hot

23:53

like outside like where we had to have sex

23:56

was like on a rock. Yeah, so the rock

23:58

was like so hot and I just remember. Derek,

24:02

he was like moving all which ways to

24:04

stay like that because he's easier for a

24:06

girl Yeah, it's to manage right? Yeah

24:10

Moving all kinds of ways to make it comfortable for

24:12

me bless his heart to this day Yeah that

24:14

was a rough scene and I remember to looking

24:16

at where we were supposed to shoot because when I

24:18

initially Decided to shoot there. Of

24:21

course like the whole scene took longer than we thought

24:23

it was gonna take Do you remember the guy in like the full

24:26

night? armor, yeah suit that

24:28

like That we had to shoot

24:30

to like that poor guy was literally he was in a

24:32

real right night Like a

24:34

real suit of armor for a night like

24:36

metal 115 out fucking

24:40

wild and then So

24:42

then yeah where I was gonna shoot you guys like on

24:44

this cuz we were in a field So there wasn't like

24:46

really anywhere around and it felt like I could bring in

24:48

a blanket or a bed It was

24:50

supposed to be you know, medieval time. So

24:53

like it had to make sense, right? And

24:56

so we were gonna put you guys on this rock But

24:58

by the time we were ready to shoot was in full fun

25:00

initially it was in shade and I was

25:03

like Well, we could move over there but blah blah

25:05

blah and and I remember you and Derek being like

25:07

it's fine We'll just shoot in the sun and I

25:09

was like, are you sure cuz that looks horrible and

25:11

you guys were like, yes We will do it and

25:13

you did it and I remember being

25:15

so impressed and sitting in my director's chair

25:17

in the shade Dying I

25:19

was so miserable and I was just

25:21

like how are they? How is this

25:24

how are they doing this they're worse than I

25:26

am and I want to die No,

25:28

I definitely will remember that forever. But I remember

25:30

well, it's also the first time I shot for

25:32

you So I definitely wanted to prove

25:34

myself, but I think having Derek as a

25:37

partner helped to yeah You know, he was

25:39

amazing emotional support. It's amazing. Yeah. Do you

25:41

remember that we both cried at the end

25:43

of that day? Yes We

25:46

both cried but Netflix had

25:48

left by then so they miss that

25:50

part part I still get the most people

25:52

all the time still hit me up. Is

25:54

that did I just see you on Netflix?

25:56

I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah still on there.

25:58

I've girls wanted Women

26:01

on top and it was the very first

26:03

episode. The best episode. It was

26:05

the best episode. The rest of them were pretty. I

26:08

remember when that one came out, everyone was like, oh,

26:10

this is great. Like Rashida, because Rashida Jones

26:12

directed it, she finally got it right, because

26:14

everyone hated the first one. And

26:16

then when the second one and the third one came

26:19

out, everyone's tone changed. But ours was

26:21

fine. It was. Yeah, we didn't get a lot of

26:23

criticism for that. So that's good. So

26:26

let's talk about your big life change

26:28

that you've recently had. You

26:31

had a baby. I did, a baby

26:33

boy. Yeah. So tell us, I

26:35

mean, like, you know, as a woman, I

26:37

always like to talk about these experiences because

26:40

I have a three and a half year old and

26:42

it definitely changed my life. So tell me a little

26:44

bit about like, how was pregnancy for you? How was

26:46

the delivery for you? I'm

26:48

so lucky. I think, thank

26:50

God every day, my pregnancy was

26:53

great. My delivery was smooth.

26:55

It's the easiest thing that it could have

26:57

been, you know? More of my

26:59

challenges came after, you know, like

27:01

adjusting. But I had a good pregnancy. Like

27:04

in the beginning, obviously was shitty, you know, when

27:06

your body's trying to figure out what the hell

27:09

is going on. But then after that, super smooth,

27:11

no crazy cravings, you know, didn't gain weight until

27:13

like the last month. Wow,

27:15

I gained 50 pounds. Yeah, I mean, I definitely gained

27:17

weight. I was like 165 when I had him. So

27:21

that's the biggest I've ever been in my life, but I

27:23

didn't gain it until the last

27:25

month, you know? That's good. And,

27:28

you know, having him, I still will

27:30

remember all the nurses in there like, you

27:32

have some good muscles down there. I'm like,

27:35

yeah, well. If

27:38

you only knew, you know? How long was your

27:40

delivery? Started like at 4.30, he was out by

27:42

4.44. So

27:45

like, I mean, I was in labor all day,

27:47

but I'm saying I started pushing at 4.30. He

27:49

was out by 4.44. Yeah, that was the

27:52

same for me. It was about 10 minutes of pushing.

27:54

Yeah, super simple. Like, but you hear so many crazy

27:56

stories. I was more mortified than anything, but

27:59

yeah. Everything. was perfect and I was like, you

28:01

know, one stitch, still pretty.

28:04

Yeah. Same. Yeah.

28:07

It was nine and a half hours for me from the start

28:09

of labor delivery. It was like

28:11

so fast. Yeah. I pretty much slept all

28:13

day. So like when I woke up, I went in at probably like

28:15

three or four in the morning and slept

28:18

all day. And then like I

28:20

said, when they were like, oh, it's time. I'm

28:22

like, oh no, she's like, it's too late now.

28:24

You gotta go. Yeah. Yeah.

28:27

You can't really stop that train once it starts running. I

28:30

was so scared though, you know, but it's crazy

28:32

like what the body does naturally. Like once you

28:34

find your rhythm, that's why I think like a

28:37

lot of people are in tuned with their body. So

28:39

it's harder for them. Yeah. But

28:41

I was like, I'm very into when I do Kegels

28:43

all the time. I do things. So once I found

28:45

like the rhythm, I was like, oh, he's out. I'm

28:48

coming out. Did you have an epidural? Yeah. Yeah.

28:51

I had to. I don't understand how people do

28:53

it without. I'm a pussy when it comes to pain. So like

28:55

even the girl that I heard it down the hall for me

28:57

was going crazy. She didn't have an epidural. I

29:00

was like, that's my point. I just, I didn't want to bring

29:02

any more trouble. So

29:05

I was like, it was made it the easiest thing. I

29:07

didn't like getting it done. Yeah. The

29:10

most painful part of it. Yeah. And

29:12

you have to be like perfectly still. I was like shaking

29:14

and controlled. She was like, I was like, I

29:16

am fucking sick. I

29:18

know mine. She's theologist was kind of a

29:21

bit. I was like, you're being me. Where'd

29:25

you get first? What is

29:27

it? Henry male? Okay. I

29:29

was at UCLA. Yeah. I wanted

29:31

to, I wanted cedar sign. I had it all planned out and I was like,

29:33

it didn't work. Yeah. Did

29:35

he come before you expected? Yeah. He

29:38

came like, actually like he was supposed to be on

29:40

the seventh and came on the second. So, oh wow. Yeah.

29:43

He was ready. Wow. Was it just

29:45

like, did your water just break and you ran to the hospital or

29:47

was there? I woke up. I woke up and I

29:49

was like, oh, something's wrong. And

29:52

I was like, I'm going to the hospital. And I was like, oh, I'm going

29:54

to the hospital. And I was like, I'm going to the hospital. I'm going to

29:56

the hospital. And it broke there. So, I just feel like everything happened. Yeah. You

29:59

know, he was just ready to come. Yeah, yeah. And

30:02

then what was your first

30:04

reaction when you saw him? It's

30:08

honestly the most crazy trippy,

30:10

if I've ever say

30:12

it, it was so trippy because I actually

30:14

pulled him out. So you pulled him out.

30:16

Yeah, so the doctor, he was like, he

30:19

did his head like that. He's like, pull your baby

30:21

out. I'm like, no. He's like, pull him

30:23

out. So I grabbed him and I pulled him out.

30:25

And just like, I can't, it was like an out

30:27

of body experience. It was just

30:30

amazing. I didn't, I've never thought that I would even

30:32

like, first of all, if I would

30:34

have never slowed down in life, I was always chasing

30:36

money and just doing things. If I would

30:39

have never slowed down, I would have never

30:42

went through with it. So I'm so happy that

30:44

I did. I was meant to be a mom,

30:46

like a great mom. And just that whole experience

30:48

of holding him for the first time, it's just,

30:50

it's just trippy. That's

30:52

like crazier than any acid or anything I've ever tried.

30:54

I was just like, oh my God, this is my

30:56

baby. Yeah. So wait,

30:58

did they not, did they put him on

31:01

your skin right away? They didn't like, yeah,

31:03

no, right. I got the snotter and right

31:05

away. It was just crazy. And then obviously they

31:07

took them and got him, but I just didn't

31:09

want him to leave the room. I was like, do

31:12

everything right here. Yeah. Like, but yeah,

31:14

I, I was just, it's crazy. It's

31:16

like an out of body experience. Like when after

31:18

it comes, it's like, holy shit, I just pushed

31:20

a human out. Like, yeah. And

31:23

I'm okay. I'm still here. You know, it's funny

31:25

cause I had like dreamed of that moment when,

31:27

you know, my baby would come out and I

31:29

would see her for the first time. And I

31:31

had this vision of, you know, how

31:34

like would be this

31:36

magical moment and I would

31:38

be like, oh, my baby. And

31:41

I ain't gonna lie, my first thought cause

31:44

they're, she was covered in all that

31:46

white stuff. I forgot what it's called.

31:48

Well, it's like your placenta after birth.

31:50

Yeah. And then your skin kind of shriveled

31:53

from being literally in utero for nine months

31:55

and they like brought her out and they're like, here's

31:57

your baby. And I was like, Oh, don't touch me.

32:00

Dude, my first thought was like, she felt slimy.

32:02

I was like, I'm just like, you're awesome. Oh

32:07

my God. Yeah, I mean, it is, it is,

32:10

like I said, you can have this whole thing of how it's supposed to

32:12

be and stuff. Yeah, yeah. It never

32:14

turns out how it's supposed to be, but just

32:17

a crazy experience. I can't, I don't, I would maybe

32:19

love to do it again one day, but I'm just

32:21

glad that I got to experience it. Yeah, yeah,

32:23

no, it was, I mean, it was definitely like,

32:25

I mean, I was crying and my husband

32:27

was crying and all that stuff. But

32:30

my first thought was, oh my God,

32:33

she's so slimy and like,

32:35

ew. I

32:38

was like, I was like, my pictures,

32:41

my photos, I look fat, like what

32:43

the fuck? They're

32:46

like, nobody's even caring about that right now. Like, I

32:49

was so mad. Like, this is one thing I remember

32:51

is like, I was supposed to go get my nails

32:53

done that day. And I was so

32:55

mad that I didn't have my nails done and my

32:57

toes and stuff like that. And they're like, really? Like,

32:59

I literally blew my hair out before we went to

33:01

the hospital. All my friends, they're like putting their makeup

33:03

on. I didn't have any,

33:05

no eyelashes, no makeup, no hair,

33:07

one broken nail. I

33:10

was like, furious about that. It didn't

33:12

matter. There's a

33:14

mutual, she's a model that I follow and

33:16

she just had a baby and I, and

33:18

she's very like social media savvy

33:21

and very like big. And I

33:23

just saw her like, hospital photos with

33:25

the baby and she's like full glam. And

33:27

I was like, you literally brought your makeup artist

33:29

to the hospital and they did your face in

33:32

the bed. Like, I know it. Like,

33:34

there's no way that you looked like that through the

33:36

whole delivery. Well, my best friend is my makeup artist.

33:39

So if I really wanted it, I could have had it because I

33:41

had her there with me too. I

33:44

just, you know, I was just in the moment.

33:46

I really didn't give a fuck. I was like, I

33:48

just want me to be okay. Yeah. But

33:51

yeah, I still have like all the pictures and photos and

33:53

stuff like that. Yeah, of course. So

33:55

how was, I mean, how

33:57

has it changed your life? It's

34:00

definitely changed my whole entire life. You know,

34:03

in the most challenging ways, but also like

34:05

it's just so much more purpose. Like you

34:07

think that you have purpose and you think

34:09

that, oh, I never wanna have kids. Cause

34:11

I always said that, I always was like, oh, I'm not gonna

34:14

have kids, you know? Like I had my animals, like all my

34:16

animals. Was the pregnancy

34:18

planned? No. Okay,

34:20

so when you found out, what was your first thought? Like,

34:23

holy shit, you know? Like, but I

34:25

also knew like, you know, previous times

34:27

before I wasn't ready and the situation

34:30

wasn't right, but this time in my

34:32

life, like, I'm like, I wanna do

34:34

this. Like I feel like it's now

34:36

or never, you know? 34, so I'm

34:39

like, I wanna do this. And I'm so

34:41

glad I did, but it's definitely challenging. I mean,

34:43

as far as like being,

34:45

you know, having your own business, going

34:47

back to work, like still being,

34:50

I stayed at home with the first year with him,

34:52

you know, and didn't work. I was blessed to take

34:54

pretty much like, I took the

34:56

whole pregnancy off and I took the first

34:58

year off with him. Didn't work, didn't even

35:00

think about it. Didn't, you know? And

35:02

I just feel like getting back to like

35:05

reality, you're like, oh, you know, I

35:07

gotta get back to work. I gotta start doing my things.

35:09

And I'm also in front of

35:11

the camera. So I feel like that was challenging

35:13

too, to be bigger. And I

35:15

was, even though I held my weight really well and I

35:17

think people like liked the thick side of me, I

35:20

wasn't comfortable, you know? So then you see

35:22

all these things, bodies, perfections now, you

35:25

know, like I'd never got a mommy makeover or tweaks or

35:27

anything, so I'm still dealing with, you know,

35:29

things. Like I look amazing, but it's like still

35:31

like, you're in front of a camera. So I

35:33

like critique myself. And I think that got to

35:35

me at some points, you know? Totally. But

35:38

those are like some of the challenging parts.

35:40

And then, you know, partner for sure. Like

35:42

you have to have a strong partner because

35:44

things change totally after the baby comes, you

35:47

know? Yeah. You can be in

35:49

honeymoon stages and, you know, everything, but reality sets

35:51

in when the baby's brought home. You know

35:53

what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. But

35:56

yeah, those are like my, I'm finally getting the

35:58

hang of it, though, like, you know? He's almost

36:00

two but I find I found my rhythm Getting

36:03

back to like taking time and not feeling

36:05

guilty about it. I still feel guilty, but

36:08

yeah, I do it Getting

36:10

back to trying to work out and just you know taking

36:13

the day like for myself and I'm lucky that I have

36:15

a really Good support system that helps

36:17

me do that. Yeah, you know

36:19

the guilt I feel like that probably

36:21

never entirely goes away. I mean, yeah,

36:23

it was definitely hard for me to go back to work I

36:25

remember when I got pregnant I was still shooting for

36:27

twisties at the time and I called

36:29

them and I'm like, yeah No worries, like I'll be you

36:32

know, I'm just gonna take maternity leave for a couple

36:34

months I'll be right back to work like, you know work

36:36

is the most important thing to me Like of course, I'm

36:38

like not gonna take that much time off. Don't worry

36:40

I'll be right back at it. And

36:42

yeah, I didn't expect my perspective

36:44

to change so much. Yeah, every

36:47

it's everything changes Yeah afterwards, you know, so I

36:49

enough always known you to be like work work

36:51

work Mm-hmm. That's pretty much what I was too

36:53

So I was like just enjoy my time just

36:56

try to chill and then then you don't want

36:58

to go to work Like I was like, I

37:00

don't even even when I would step out for

37:02

like I went I did a convention just to

37:04

get my feet wet, right two hours I was

37:06

like, oh, you know gotta go and yeah Like

37:09

I ended up going to Vegas for avian and

37:11

I brought the whole family. Yeah, I'm a

37:13

whole unit like in the other Other

37:16

side of this trip or whatever, but I was like, oh,

37:18

well, I'm ready to go. Like I was just never yeah

37:21

Two hours was too long. Yeah. Yeah. I

37:23

when I went to avian for the first

37:25

time last year I went this year too. But yeah, that

37:27

was the longest I was ever away from violet and I

37:29

felt like Horrible about it. Yeah,

37:31

I still like I can remember the first cuz it

37:34

was like a two-day thing I was like, oh go

37:36

on this trip or whatever for convention. I

37:38

cried I cried and like every time I sat

37:40

still I cried So I was like I need

37:43

to just stay busy. Yeah, and I still like

37:45

get my guilty moments But I've I'm able to

37:47

leave for four days. That's yeah, that's my max

37:49

right? Yeah Yeah,

37:52

I know it's it's hard and it's like I've been working

37:54

a lot lately so she's been more clingy

37:56

than usual and The

37:58

other day she told me that she wanted to to be my assistant so she

38:00

can come to work with me. And

38:03

I was like, I mean, first of

38:05

all, obviously no. But second thing, you know what

38:07

I mean? And then she'll say stuff

38:09

to me. It's just funny

38:11

how kids really kind of remind you about, they

38:15

shift your perspective on life and remind you what's important.

38:17

Because I remember she said to me,

38:20

this was a couple months ago, she's like, mommy,

38:23

she's like, when I grow up, I

38:25

wanna, what'd she say? She said, I wanna work so

38:27

I can, I wanna grow up so I can

38:29

work and make money. Like

38:32

she doesn't know what money is. She doesn't like understand

38:34

what work is. She just knows that like, that's what I go

38:36

and do all the time. And so she's like, and

38:39

I'm just like, don't hurry, you know, like

38:41

enjoy what you have in this

38:43

moment, you know, like work

38:45

will come soon enough. But I remember growing

38:47

up selling meat out when I was a kid

38:50

and you don't wanna listen. You can't wait to

38:52

grow up. I wanted to grow up so fast.

38:54

And I, that's to be a kid as

38:56

long as you can. Like I grew

38:58

up so fast. Like at 15, I was already moved out

39:00

the house, had a job, like, you know,

39:02

definitely waited. So I was like 19 or 20

39:05

years old. Stay at

39:07

home with mommy. I know. But

39:09

yeah, like, and it does remind you of what's important

39:11

and like, and how like, I

39:13

don't know, like not saying that our job is not

39:15

important, but it really isn't in the grand scheme of

39:17

the world. And like, yeah, it just gives you more

39:19

purpose. That's all I can say is like, the

39:22

best decision I ever made, but definitely the

39:25

most challenging decision. For sure. I

39:28

definitely feel like I just, there's a lot of things

39:30

that I used to care about that I don't care

39:32

about anymore. Like drama, like the

39:34

drama that goes on, like on Twitter or

39:36

whatever. I just like, I

39:38

just don't care. Yeah, I don't either. And I've

39:40

always been like that. Like I've never been in

39:43

the mix. Like I've always, I feel like the

39:45

black sheep of the industry, like I'm here and

39:47

you see me, but I'm not, but I definitely

39:49

take my, you know, stay in

39:51

a bubble. And I feel like even more now than

39:54

ever, I like definitely do my thing and then just

39:56

pop out for work. Yeah. Yeah. But

39:58

yeah. I

40:02

mean, you know, being a sex worker and

40:04

being a mom, I'm sure you've thought about

40:06

like, you know, that conversation, how you're gonna

40:08

handle it. Yeah, it mortifies

40:11

me to be honest with you. I go

40:13

to therapy over this, like, you

40:15

know, but I just feel like when it's time and

40:17

when he, when he's ready, like, he's gonna tell me

40:19

because I'm gonna ask him when he's

40:21

ready if he wants to know, you know, but just to come

40:24

at them with like, you know, confidence

40:26

and not shame. Nothing shameful about it,

40:28

even though that's like how I still

40:30

perceive sometimes, but it's like, it's terrifying.

40:33

I feel like I would have been more terrified having

40:35

a girl, you know, like, I was so scared that

40:38

I was gonna get a girl like my karma, I'm

40:40

gonna get a little girl just like me badass little

40:42

just like me. But you know,

40:44

I can see still the karma and the little boy

40:46

just like me. But I just want, you know, it's

40:49

terrifying to be honest with you. But I know that

40:51

the world came so much further

40:53

than when we grew up as the

40:55

stigma for that. Yeah, so I'm hoping

40:57

for the best. Like, I don't really worry

40:59

about bullying as much because bullying can happen to any

41:01

any kid doesn't have to your mom doesn't have to

41:04

be a sex worker to be bullied. Yeah, but I

41:06

am going to teach him to like, you

41:08

know, chop some people in the throat. Yeah.

41:12

Yeah. My mother taught me when I was young

41:14

to kick boys in the balls,

41:16

but then make sure you run away

41:18

really fast. That's awesome. Because when

41:21

they say I remember, I remember,

41:23

I remember being I was

41:25

still in elementary school when she like sat me down and told me

41:27

that I was like, Okay, thank

41:30

you. Keep that

41:32

in mind. Kids are fucking mean. So

41:34

that's gonna happen regardless. But I do

41:37

like love the fact that we've came

41:39

so much further. Like

41:41

porn is accepted so much more. Like when I

41:43

first got in the industry, like the internet really

41:45

didn't sit yet. So like, I was like, Oh,

41:47

nobody's gonna know I'm gonna go do these scenes

41:50

or real quick. My whole hometown knew. Of course,

41:52

you're a fucking whore. Fucking

41:54

black guys on camera, da da da da da. And

41:56

now like all those same people kiss my ass. Yeah,

41:58

I'm like, You know, and I just

42:01

think it's crazy how far that's came. So that makes

42:03

me, gives me a little bit of, you

42:05

know. I think also too, I mean, kids

42:07

are gonna react to things based on what

42:09

they're taught and how they're raised. So,

42:12

you know, I mean, I was, and I

42:14

can say this confidently, having been raised by

42:16

parents who worked in the porn industry, like

42:18

I was never instilled with that sense of

42:20

shame around sex and around

42:23

the porn industry, like most people

42:25

are. So it just

42:27

was never like a big deal to me. Yeah,

42:29

and that's like how I want to raise him.

42:31

I want him to be very open-minded to most

42:34

things. You know what I

42:36

mean? But I want him to be comfortable with that. I

42:38

want him to know that also to sacrifices that I've

42:40

taken, you know what I mean? Because there are

42:42

a lot of sacrifices and that with

42:44

the industry that you give, you know what I mean? To have

42:46

what you have and the things that you have. I didn't grow

42:48

up with any of those things, you know? Yeah. So,

42:51

yeah. Yeah. No, I

42:53

think, I think definitely being like honest

42:56

and just not raising

42:59

them with shame. And I also feel

43:02

that these days we have so

43:04

much more in terms of resources

43:07

and how to raise children and

43:09

how to be good parents than

43:11

our parents did. Like they didn't

43:14

have any of that. And now we have like

43:16

a wealth of information. Right. You

43:19

know, I mean, I have all of these mom accounts

43:21

that I follow on Instagram, yeah, with all like the

43:23

little, like big little feelings and you know, all of

43:25

these, I've like listened

43:27

to podcasts and read books and

43:30

just helps you understand what

43:33

it's like to be a kid, why they behave a

43:35

certain way and how to like deal

43:38

with that. Yeah. And I just

43:40

think about how our parents never had any of that.

43:42

No, they just did the best that they could, you

43:44

know? They did, they did. So

43:46

I think it's a good time to, you

43:48

know, to be a mom

43:50

these days. Absolutely. So

43:53

how are you passionate? What are you passionate

43:55

about besides your kid, obviously,

43:58

outside of sex work? Hi. I love

44:00

animals. I work with LaBelle Foundation. I

44:02

work with a few of them and

44:04

Foster and work at adoption

44:06

placements and I'm working on a nonprofit foundation

44:08

of my own. So like I'm very passionate

44:11

about that. Even though it's like not something

44:13

that is very giving financially,

44:15

it's something that I'm still working towards for

44:17

when I totally retire. So

44:20

yeah. You wanna, is this like dogs specifically

44:22

or dog and cats? I would love to

44:24

do like wildlife. Like my nonprofit, I'm really

44:26

planning because I wanna do like a little

44:29

bit more. I love

44:31

like exotic animals, but dogs of course, dogs, cats,

44:33

like that's what I'm into now. Yeah. So

44:35

how many dogs do you have at home?

44:37

Well, I just got rid of a few.

44:39

I found them good homes, but I

44:42

did have four dogs and four cats, but now I

44:44

have four cats and a dog. And

44:47

your son, I'm sure loves them. He loves them.

44:49

Like he's, my cats, like it's so

44:51

crazy. He's so gentle. It's like he knew my

44:53

cat used to always sit on my stomach and

44:56

need and like knew. And you know, when he

44:58

first came home, he was kinda like, you know,

45:00

I'm still the baby. But now like they all

45:02

coincide and it's so cute to see. Yeah. You

45:05

know? Yeah, I know it's really nice

45:07

to raise kids with animals.

45:10

You know, we actually live on a ranch. So we

45:13

like violet, there's like bugs. And actually yesterday

45:15

we went for a walk and my husband caught a

45:17

frog and gave it to Violet and she was holding

45:20

it and like jumped on her. And she was

45:22

like, I love that. Marsha

45:24

hates frogs. I sent her a photo.

45:26

Marsha's sitting out there going, no, fuck that. I

45:29

sent her a photo of Violet like holding a frog.

45:31

I was like, oh. No, it says

45:33

a lot when kids are like, you know, good around

45:35

animals and whatnot. And I definitely, I'm like a foster

45:37

failure. So like I would foster and then keep them

45:39

and I'm like, okay, I can't keep doing this. Like,

45:42

you know what I mean? Like, let me find you

45:44

a really good home for some of them. But it's

45:46

so rewarding too. And I want him to have like

45:48

the same respect and love for

45:50

animals too. Yeah, no, absolutely. You

45:54

have given advice on another podcast to

45:56

save and invest your money. Is

45:58

that a lesson that you learned like the heart? the hard way at the

46:00

beginning of your career? Have you always been good about

46:03

money? No, definitely didn't come from money, so

46:05

didn't know. Like I always

46:07

made money even dancing, like it's a mentality of making

46:09

it the next day, you'll spend it because you're gonna

46:11

make it. So I definitely learned it the

46:14

hard way, learned it the hard way with

46:16

taxes, not having the

46:18

right people around me as well to mentor me.

46:21

I learned, I got a good mentor a little

46:23

bit later in life and that's a blessing because

46:25

it taught me everything I know now. Is

46:28

it wild how in school they don't teach

46:30

you anything about finances? Nothing. Like

46:32

that makes me crazy. That's what they need to

46:34

be teaching because especially like when

46:36

you go to like having no

46:39

money to making thousands

46:41

of dollars a day at the time, you

46:43

know what I mean? Like you at 18,

46:45

I had no business making that money and

46:47

not knowing what to do with it. So I was like, oh, let me spend it. So

46:50

I think they should definitely be more

46:53

savvy with financial. But just like even

46:55

teaching kids about like taxes and

46:58

like what that means and checkbook

47:00

and like how to open a bank

47:02

account and just like basic life skills

47:04

that like we need. Like yeah.

47:06

They definitely teach stuff that really, I don't

47:08

even use anything like definitely with math, like

47:11

I'm good with my money, like numbers, but

47:13

any all that other stuff I haven't even

47:15

used since I walked out of school. So

47:17

I just think that they should definitely teach

47:19

more of financial and like investment and like

47:22

just planning. Financial planning, you know? Because you

47:24

make great money and it's like you realize

47:26

like I probably made a

47:29

couple million dollars in my early 20s and

47:31

blew all through it. Yeah. But

47:34

I'm lucky obviously to bounce back and still do, but

47:36

you just think about what could have been done if

47:38

you would have had the right team or whatever. Yeah. So

47:41

now that you're back to shooting, are you shooting like

47:43

studio porn again or are you just shooting for your

47:46

own sites? I actually started a production, my own production

47:49

and distribution under Jules

47:51

Jordan in 2020. So

47:54

it got a slow start. I honestly should felt like

47:56

I should have did it a

47:59

long time ago, but I find it. I finally did it when I had

48:01

the right team. You know what I mean?

48:03

2020 was a weird year. It was, and we had,

48:05

we couldn't shoot the whole year. Yeah. It

48:07

was just really odd, you know, but I'm glad that I got like my

48:09

team, everything that makes it successful. So

48:11

I'm shooting for my production and a

48:13

couple of mainstream that I've always like

48:15

have took care of me. I'm probably going

48:17

to shoot a couple of scenes for them, but pretty

48:19

much for my stuff, you know, like

48:22

directing has been fun, but I think that

48:24

my fans want to see me perform. Yeah.

48:27

Yeah. What is the biggest

48:29

difference between directing and performing? The

48:31

difference? Well,

48:33

financially for me, the difference, but

48:36

it's just a different, I guess, like thought

48:40

process as it's hard for me as a director because

48:42

I'm always wanting to show how to do it and

48:44

what to do. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

48:49

Yeah. And really just sitting back and letting people do

48:51

it. That's hard for me. Yeah. Like

48:53

it just is. That's probably the difference,

48:56

the biggest difference for me, financial and then,

48:58

you know, control. What

49:01

is the most challenging thing about directing

49:03

and what's the most rewarding? I guess

49:05

like coming up, there's so much now that you

49:07

have to consume is like, for me is like

49:10

being creative and keeping that creative flow

49:12

to do different stuff. And it not turn

49:14

out the same. You know, there's just so

49:16

much, you know, I think that's

49:19

been like my and being

49:21

busy and like having life and still creating,

49:24

trying to create, you know. Yeah.

49:27

And then also too, I mean, there's a lot more responsibility as

49:29

a director as a performer. You just show up. You're

49:31

only responsible for you and your performance. I'm over

49:34

here writing everybody's check and I don't get a

49:36

check right now. I know. I

49:38

know that feeling all

49:40

too well. But it is like, it is

49:43

totally different. You definitely enjoy being a performer.

49:45

Yeah. I feel, you know, being coming from

49:47

that. If you don't know that you wouldn't.

49:50

Yeah. Now that,

49:52

you know, you've like lived

49:54

this whole full life performer,

49:56

directing mom, how

49:58

do you like take. time for

50:00

yourself and kind of take care of your own mental

50:02

health with everything going on? I

50:04

definitely do. I go to therapy multiple times

50:06

a month. I love therapy. I feel like

50:08

it's my only way to like exert all

50:11

my thoughts. And then I do like mental

50:13

health days, which is what I call them.

50:16

Go to the spa, you know,

50:18

massage six hours. Like I'll literally go

50:20

all day trying to get back in my

50:22

workout. I used to work out all the time, but

50:24

obviously it's really hard having a baby, but I've been

50:26

trying to get back into that once or twice a

50:29

week. Those are all things that I

50:31

love. You know, I love going hiking. I love being

50:33

outside. So just trying to get

50:35

back to things that make me feel whole. Yeah.

50:37

Yeah. You got a lot more to balance now.

50:40

Yeah. And balance has never

50:42

been my strong

50:44

feature in life. So learning it

50:46

now is like crazy. Yeah. I

50:48

feel like it's a lifelong challenge for all of us. Yeah.

50:52

Yeah. Well, Jada, thank you so much for

50:54

coming on. Thank you for having me. It's such a pleasure

50:56

and congratulations on all these changes in your

50:58

life. I do have

51:00

a bunch of questions for my Patreon members, which we

51:02

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51:04

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51:10

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51:12

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51:15

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51:17

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51:20

then the cheeks is with a Z, right? Yeah, cheeks with

51:22

a Z. Okay. Because I was actually trying

51:24

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51:26

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51:29

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