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I'm a 21-year veteran of this fascinating

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Suze Randall, you could say I grew

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My guests are some of the biggest names in the industry,

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the inspiring, the tragic, and the

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Hello, everybody. Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered.

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My guest today is kind of a podcast

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newbie. She did one interview a while

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ago, but it's been a minute, so

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I'm very excited to have her here.

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She's absolutely gorgeous. I've shot

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her for my Bombshell

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of the Month series.

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for HollyRandall.com and she is

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dominating the porn industry right now.

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She took home countless awards this year,

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including Ex-Biz Performer of the

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Year. Welcome Vanna Bardot.

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Thank you. So good to

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see you. Good to see you. Can I just say I'm very excited.

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I'm a big fan of the podcast. I've

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told you this before, but yeah, I've been

2:21

listening to her podcast for years. Yeah,

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like I'm a very big fan.

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So I was really happy when you asked me to

2:29

come on here.

2:29

I'm always surprised when,

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like, why didn't you

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tell me that I should have

2:35

an interview with you? I almost was thinking about

2:37

it. I almost was going to hit you up actually like the week before

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and then I just like was

2:41

really busy and I was like, I'm just going to wait

2:44

and then you hit me up and I was like, yes. Yeah,

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I know because sometimes when

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I talk to people, because I tell you at the browsers party,

2:51

I'm

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like, wait, why the fuck am I having

2:54

a header on? What was I thinking?

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Because

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obviously we've worked together quite a few times. You're

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fucking gorgeous and amazing. And I'm so glad

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to have you here.

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So here you are. So Vanna,

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I guess,

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you know, let's start at the beginning as we often

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do. How did you get into

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the adult industry? So

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I had quite a fascination with the

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adult industry

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from a pretty young

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age. It's

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probably not very kosher for me to say, but I mean,

3:26

I had been watching like the AVN Awards on

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Showtime since I was like 16. I

3:33

was really fascinated about it. I

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mean, I'd been watching porn

3:38

for a lot longer than that. Like I know it's

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we don't want that, but, you know, it's just

3:44

kind of the truth of my generation

3:46

is, you know, we were really the first ones

3:48

to have so much unlimited access

3:50

to the Internet and, you

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know, it is what it is. But, yeah,

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I just always had a really big fascination with

3:57

like all forms of sex work, whether it

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was. porn or stripping

4:02

or escorting, burlesque dancers,

4:04

cam girls, like everything. I was just

4:07

really interested in it. And

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so I had been working as a hair salon

4:13

assistant from when I was like 15 to 18 and I

4:17

thought that's what I was gonna go into and by

4:19

the time I turned 18, I was like, you know what? Fuck

4:21

it. Like I want to live my life. I want to do what I want

4:24

and I decided to start pursuing

4:29

camming and stripping and by

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the time I turned 19, I decided

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to go into professional porn. And

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looking back now, how do you feel

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about getting into the industry

4:43

at that age? Because obviously there's a lot of discussion

4:45

around whether or not that's too young, whether

4:48

or not it's fine because it's

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legal

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age. What was your experience? For sure.

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I think about that a lot. I

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mean, it would be really, it's really hard for me to say

4:58

that being

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able to join the industry at such a young age

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is a bad thing because for me it was so positive. Like

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I can't imagine where I would be if I

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didn't enter at that age. You

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know, when I started like stripping

5:13

and camming, that was okay, but

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like stripping was in like the best environment

5:18

for me to be in. And porn

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was like so much healthier for me.

5:22

And I think about like where would I be

5:24

if I'd started when I was 21 rather than 19. And

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I mean, it's all about like your mindset and

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like where you're at. I had

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a really like healthy understanding of

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like what I was doing and, you

5:37

know, boundaries. And of course,

5:39

like nothing was perfect.

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But for me, like it

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really felt like where I needed to be. Of course, it's not

5:45

the case for a lot of other

5:48

girls, but you know, there's plenty of other girls

5:50

who get in when they're 20, 24, 30. And,

5:54

you know, it doesn't go super well

5:56

either. So yeah, they make back decisions

5:58

then.

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Right,

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right. So when you first

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started in the industry, you had braces. Yeah. So

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did you like really lean into that? I assume that you

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probably did a lot of teen scenes. Yeah. So

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when I got in, it wasn't ideal.

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Like originally, I wanted to wait until

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like after I had my braces off until like,

8:16

I got like all the little like work that I wanted.

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But I was like, you know what, like, I'm

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going to be making like, so much more

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money so much more quickly, shooting

8:26

scenes and stripping and camming.

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So yeah, I was like,

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I might as well kind

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of exploit this like fetish

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that people really like and try

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to like milk as

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much out as I can, like starting looking super

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young and then, you know, grow

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into the performer I wanted to be. But

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yeah, I realized pretty quickly that again,

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I wasn't getting the work I wanted because of how I looked.

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And yeah, I had to kind of grow out

8:57

of that one. But yeah, I was doing a lot of teen

8:59

a lot of brace face,

9:03

I was getting I was like really like kind

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of, what's

9:07

the word, kind

9:08

of pigeonholed until like the same characters.

9:10

I was always like the naive virgin

9:12

who didn't know what she was doing, which was like, so

9:15

the opposite of me, like I had always been

9:17

so sexual from a really early age. So yeah,

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I just did not like getting typecasted

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like that at all. Yeah, I mean, were there any scenes

9:25

that you were presented with when you were just like, this

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is a little Yeah, there is

9:30

one it's actually like quite hilarious.

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I didn't wasn't very happy

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about doing it at first. But by the end of the scene, I was like, this

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is so funny. And I was like,

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I'm just gonna like really lean into the comedy of this.

9:42

But they wanted me to wear head

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gear. Yeah, they

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had this like fake headgear. I

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like wasn't attached to my actual braces or anything.

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And I just felt like so ugly.

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And I yeah, by the end of the

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scene, I was like, this is the funniest thing I've ever done.

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But I definitely to not feel

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very sexy. God,

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that is, I don't think I've ever seen

10:06

porn with headgear before and I feel like I've seen

10:08

it all. Yeah, my headgear was supposed to get

10:10

stuck on the kitchen sink and, you know. Oh,

10:13

it was a stuck scene with headgear. And

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what did my stepbrother do being so helpful?

10:18

I mean, he wouldn't help you

10:20

get unstuck. He has to have sex with you

10:22

because you're. The only natural solution. You

10:25

know, the problem solving that we do in

10:28

porn is just like sometimes really like next

10:30

level. Innovative.

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God. So

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tell me a little bit about your family. Your

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mom,

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I think you said that

10:42

she was kind of like a borderline nudist, right?

10:45

Yeah, her and my grandma. So

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I come from a very like internationally diverse

10:51

family. My mom is French, my

10:53

dad is Brazilian. My

10:55

grandma from my mom's side is Swiss. On

10:59

my dad's side is, there

11:02

is Italian and Argentinian. So I have family

11:04

like all over the place, but

11:07

I had really open parents.

11:11

I had like the sex talk at a very

11:14

early age. My mom gave me the talk

11:16

at like 10, which is arguably

11:18

like very early for

11:21

most children, I guess, but you know.

11:23

Was it really for you? No, I mean,

11:26

for me it made sense, especially like

11:28

I grew up in Miami and when

11:31

she saw like my older brother go to

11:33

like middle school, like the middle school

11:35

he was at was like pretty crazy.

11:38

And there was like already kids like having three

11:40

sons in the bathrooms and like just

11:42

crazy shit. And you know, my mom

11:44

was like, she

11:47

was not stupid or anything like that. Like

11:49

I was already doing stuff at that age.

11:52

But like that you were being exposed to things that

11:54

maybe needed contact. Yeah, and

11:57

she was like, you are not getting

11:59

pregnant. under this household. She

12:01

literally told me she was like, if you get pregnant,

12:04

I'm snatching that shit out of you myself. So

12:07

yeah, that's definitely the kind of parents

12:09

I had. But yeah, my mom was really

12:12

open about like nudity and sexuality.

12:14

And we just always had a very open

12:16

dialogue at home. I remember

12:19

like coming out to her when I was like 13, I think

12:22

about being bi

12:25

and she's like, Oh, sweetie, I know I've seen her search

12:27

history. So yeah, I'm still

12:31

really fortunate to like have parents

12:33

who are really open like that.

12:35

Do you think that having parents like that and

12:37

having

12:37

that kind of education

12:39

from a young age actually helped you

12:42

make

12:42

like better decisions when you were older and got

12:45

into the adult industry? You know, because we hear about

12:47

some people who come in and they're so

12:49

naive to sex and all

12:51

of that because they're raised in such a strict

12:53

household and weren't told anything. So they come

12:55

into this industry and

12:58

they're just like so clueless. And then unfortunately,

13:00

like they have they learn, you know,

13:03

while they're working, which is not necessarily the best

13:05

place to learn about sex. Yeah, no,

13:08

absolutely. I,

13:10

I think coming into this industry, like I had

13:14

already been very sexual

13:16

since high school. And,

13:19

you know, my mom was, she was like the mom

13:21

and mean girl, she was like, I'd

13:23

rather you do it at home. And she's

13:26

like here, like a bio box of condoms, but

13:28

like, I'd rather know that you're safe. And if you have

13:30

any questions, and she

13:32

actually explained to me that porn is

13:35

because when she realized I was also watching pretty

13:38

like crazy porn at a young age, she explained

13:40

to me, she's like, porn is a fantasy.

13:43

This is not what

13:46

making love is. And you know, while

13:48

porn is, is great, it's not accurate representation

13:53

of you know, what usually

13:56

happens between like a man and

13:58

a woman or a woman and woman or a man. and

14:00

a man. So yeah, that's

14:02

really like,

14:03

that's really profound. I mean,

14:05

I mean, you don't, you

14:08

almost never hear that. Yeah. Coming

14:10

from people's parents. So yeah, when they

14:12

when you told her that you were doing

14:15

porn, what was the reaction? Yeah,

14:17

she was one of the first persons I

14:19

told.

14:22

I told her after I came

14:24

out to LA I shot for two weeks.

14:27

And one of my last shoot shoots, it was for

14:29

Barely Legal magazine with Dave

14:31

Nazz. And it was like the first like

14:33

real like photo shoot I

14:36

had been on and, and

14:40

at the end, at the end of the day, I called her

14:42

and I was like, yeah, so I

14:45

shot some like photos of the photographer

14:48

and she's like, okay, what kind of

14:49

photos

14:50

and I'm like, you know, it was like nude

14:53

ones. So they were like very classy. Sorry.

14:57

Sorry, Hessler. Love

15:00

you guys. They were pretty cute, honestly, like

15:03

it was like some of the other scenes I've

15:05

been like, you know, the photos

15:07

of doing on set. Yeah, it was like, I felt

15:09

like, oh, like it was like a proper photo

15:12

shoot. And Dave Nazz is a good photographer.

15:14

Yeah. And I like I looked at his work and I

15:16

really liked it. So yeah,

15:19

I told her about it. And I didn't quite

15:21

tell her I was like, doing like porn. But yeah,

15:24

eventually I told her about and she was super

15:27

open. Like she always knew that I had a really

15:29

like good head on my shoulders and

15:32

that I knew what I was doing and that

15:34

I was safe. And yeah, she was

15:36

not very worried. My grandma

15:39

actually was my biggest cheerleader. Really?

15:41

Yeah, yeah, I sent her like all not

15:44

all of my photos, but I sent her like when I got penthouse

15:47

and like I'll send her all my like really like

15:49

classy photos. Yeah. Yeah.

15:52

That's so great. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, they

15:54

love it. That's really cool. And

15:56

I assume

15:57

that they are probably pretty proud

15:59

of how far you look.

15:59

gotten in the industry today. Yeah, yeah,

16:02

absolutely. That's awesome.

16:04

So speaking

16:05

of where you've gotten into the industry

16:07

today, you took some pretty serious

16:10

hardware home during the awards season

16:13

earlier this year. How did it feel to win

16:15

two XBiz and two AVN

16:17

awards? It was crazy.

16:20

I mean, being

16:22

back at like AVN for the first time this

16:25

year, like in person, and getting

16:27

to go up on stage was like such

16:30

a crazy feeling because when I got

16:32

started in porn, I

16:34

told myself if I'm gonna do this, like I want

16:36

to go all the way. I want to be on that stage

16:40

taking home awards. I don't want to be one of those girls

16:42

who just like comes and shoots

16:44

a few scenes and disappears. I'm like that's not

16:46

gonna be worth it. So I had

16:50

already like won some awards before,

16:52

but to be back like in

16:54

person and be on that stage and it just

16:57

it just was like so exhilarating and

16:59

you know I love it. It like gives me something

17:01

to like push myself towards and look

17:04

forward to. Yeah. Yeah, and then XBiz

17:06

was crazy. Like

17:08

I did not expect to take home performer

17:10

of the year. Like that was next

17:13

level. Like I really was not expecting it

17:15

to happen until I had

17:17

won, I already got on stage to

17:20

accept two awards and then Cody was

17:22

like he's like you should probably start

17:25

preparing like your speech. Like you're gonna win performer

17:27

of the year and I was like no way like shut the fuck

17:29

up. And he even like turned on his camera

17:31

and started like recording as we're announcing

17:33

it. I'm like stop it, that's so embarrassing. I'm

17:35

not gonna say my name. And then

17:38

they did and yeah it was

17:40

like... Did he get your moment? Did he

17:42

get your reaction? He did, he did yeah.

17:44

But it was such a pivotal moment cuz like I never thought

17:46

that. Yeah. I could

17:48

win an award like that. My biggest aspiration

17:51

was just to be nominated for Bethany

17:53

Starlett when I started in this industry. I was like if

17:55

I do that then you know what I made

17:57

it far enough and to...

18:00

when something

18:00

like Performer of the Year was like,

18:03

just unbelievable. Do you remember what your speech

18:05

was? Like, I mean, you hadn't prepared

18:07

a speech, right? Yeah. What'd you say when you got up there?

18:11

You know, I think the first people I thanked were

18:13

my agents, because I don't

18:15

think I'd be here without them.

18:18

They

18:20

really, like, when I came to them, I

18:22

told them exactly where I wanted to be. I

18:25

did the same thing with my first agent, but he didn't listen to me.

18:27

But when I signed with... I think I know who your first agent

18:29

is. Yeah. But

18:32

when I signed with ATMLA, I told them,

18:34

I was like, these are the

18:36

companies I want to work for, like, this is

18:39

where I want to go. And they

18:41

listened to me, and they did what

18:43

they could, like, push me in that direction. And

18:46

yeah, like, I thanked all the companies

18:48

I worked with, and I thanked

18:51

Cody. And yeah, I'm,

18:53

like, blanking on what else I said, but

18:55

yeah. And then how did you celebrate

18:57

that night? I went out. Yeah,

19:00

I went out to, like, a little, like, after party that was happening,

19:03

and then, yeah, then I just went home. And

19:07

then so for those who don't know, what exactly did

19:09

you win that year? So obviously, Expos, performer

19:11

of the year. What were the other awards you won

19:13

at Expos, and what did you win at AVN? Expos,

19:16

I also won Best.

19:18

The categories at Expos

19:20

are a little interesting, but I won Best

19:23

all sexting. Okay. And

19:26

then Best, I

19:29

don't know if it was a Gonzo scene, but

19:31

I won a scene with Seth Gamble, and

19:35

another one that was for

19:38

Blackdraw, that was, like, this huge orgy.

19:41

That also won Best Orgy at AVN.

19:44

And at AVN, I won Best Girl-Girl

19:46

Scene with Joan of the Orr. Okay. Yeah.

19:49

Awesome. So

19:51

do, like,

19:52

I mean, you said that the awards were, like, motivating

19:55

to you. Like, how important to you are the awards?

19:59

I will say I do like

20:02

care about them like they're not you know It's

20:04

not the end-all be-all but I know

20:06

for me. It's like a nice like Thing

20:09

to motivate myself like I am kind

20:12

of a competitive person I grew

20:15

up doing like dance and you know you went

20:17

to competitions and all that so It's

20:20

like I tried getting back into dance now as an adult

20:23

and it feels kind of pointless I'm like there's nothing

20:25

that like you're not gonna win anything Yeah, there's nothing

20:27

that like I'm working towards. There's no big recital.

20:30

There's no competition. So I know

20:32

for me like after especially

20:35

like after You know this

20:37

award season. I was immediately like okay

20:39

What do I want for this next year like

20:42

already planning like what am I gonna do and

20:44

you know for me? It's it's fun honestly, but it's not

20:46

like if I don't win something. It's gonna

20:48

floor me either You're not crying in the bathroom.

20:51

Yeah every year at the awards There's

20:53

always some girl crying in the bathroom because

20:55

she didn't win like whatever it is. She

20:57

really wanted Yeah, so bad for them as

21:00

somebody who like

21:01

never wins awards. I'm always like, okay.

21:02

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21:06

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21:09

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22:39

your first double penetration. Yes. So

22:42

before we get to the fun parts, what

22:44

is the movie like in general about?

22:46

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22:49

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22:53

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22:55

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22:59

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23:01

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23:04

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she decides to go off on her own and open the sex

23:10

club, but it's not doing super well. She

23:13

doesn't have the kind of clientele

23:15

that she wants. It's kind of like, kind

23:17

of dingy. And she's like, okay,

23:20

like how are we going to figure this out? How

23:23

are we going to elevate this? And her and her business

23:26

partner decide to reach out to

23:29

this influencer to try

23:31

and get some sponsorship

23:34

from him. And that

23:36

kind of leads her down this rabbit

23:39

hole of other problems

23:42

and solutions to

23:46

ultimately elevate the club

23:48

to where she wants to be. So

23:50

what, you said it's loosely based on

23:52

your life. Like what parts are? So

23:56

the element of the sex club originally,

23:58

it was... We were thinking about

24:01

partnering. I worked pretty closely

24:03

with a

24:04

production company called, not

24:07

really a production company, but this

24:10

private members club in LA called

24:12

Kinky Rabbit Club. Oh, yeah. OK,

24:14

so there, I follow them. And

24:16

their photos

24:19

and, I don't know, all the stuff that they put out

24:21

there is really well done. Yeah. Really

24:24

well done. Yeah. Alina, the woman who created

24:26

it and runs everything, she's truly such

24:29

an artist. Yeah. But

24:32

yeah, originally when we were thinking about stories

24:35

for the showcase, we wanted

24:37

to

24:39

have that involved in some way. And

24:43

ultimately, we ended up

24:45

using the concept of the

24:47

club to

24:49

have that as kind of like the backdrop

24:51

for the movie. But

24:53

then, yeah, the

24:55

beginning of the story that shows

24:58

kind of my background with my dad is very

25:00

dramatized, but it is true.

25:04

He was a prolific

25:08

distributor in Miami of

25:11

sorts. So yeah,

25:13

when I got a distributor of

25:15

diapers or baby wipes or

25:18

phone cases, something

25:21

else maybe. Yeah. Gotcha. So

25:23

yeah, when I, Kaiden Cross is the one who actually

25:25

wrote the movie. So I sat

25:27

down with her and told her about my life. And

25:30

she pulled as inspiration for the

25:32

movie. So yeah. But the whole

25:34

part about me pulling off this whole heist

25:36

and everything, not based on

25:39

real life. Are

25:42

you still close to your dad? Or

25:44

are you close to your adult? I'm very close. Yeah, I'm very close with both

25:46

of my parents.

25:47

That's great. Yeah. Wow. How

25:50

did your dad, sorry, I don't want to

25:52

jump back. How did your dad react to you being

25:54

born? He was not quite as thrilled

25:56

as my mother

25:59

naturally.

25:59

Yeah, at first he

26:02

thought that I was escorting because he found like

26:04

a had a notebook with like rates written

26:06

down and like girl girl and boy girl

26:08

and boy girl girl and he yeah

26:11

he thought I was escorting and I

26:13

told him like no I'm shooting

26:15

porn but it's really safe and then I also

26:17

lied I said oh I'm just shooting I'm just shooting with girls

26:19

because I try to make it seem so much better

26:22

and yeah yeah he was not happy for a while

26:24

but naturally like he

26:26

calmed down and I think he was mostly concerned

26:28

because of my look at the time like I had

26:31

the braces and I looked so young

26:33

and like he was like I know the kind

26:35

of porn that you're probably making it's not like you're

26:37

a dominatrix like that would be a little

26:40

bit different you know I don't think he liked the idea

26:42

of like you being taken

26:44

advantage of yeah but he

26:47

realized pretty quickly that I was very safe

26:49

you know I had an agent and since it

26:52

was a very like professional business

26:54

I wasn't doing anything like okay CD

26:57

but yeah you know and I don't think any father is gonna

26:59

be I think the dads generally

27:01

take it harder than the moms do yeah

27:04

what I've heard

27:04

okay so back to the

27:07

movie so you did your first

27:11

anal and your first total penetration

27:13

yeah so I guess

27:15

what tells what the anal first will start

27:19

to flow

27:24

yeah so the first scene in the movie is

27:26

my first anal ever

27:28

everyone's film

27:31

yes everyone's film yeah

27:34

I honestly like

27:36

never

27:36

knew if I was gonna really do anal or not

27:38

like I almost did pretty early in my career

27:40

but just

27:42

because I thought it was something I had to do and

27:44

I backed out of it because I realized

27:46

I wasn't ready and I'm really glad I did

27:49

because now I had a very amazing

27:54

way to do it but yeah it's

27:57

with Maxima Garcia It

28:02

went amazing. It was very smooth. It

28:04

was really enjoyable. Yeah. Did

28:08

you get did you choose him for

28:10

a specific reason? Or was

28:13

that just kind of a guy? We

28:15

had to like think about how this was going to work with like the characters

28:18

in the movie too. But I had a list,

28:20

a very short list of guys that,

28:23

because the movie is all anal. So

28:25

I had a very short list of guys who I was

28:27

like, I would feel comfortable

28:30

working with them. And it was my first

28:32

time working with Maximo, but I

28:34

had heard a lot of good things about him that he was very good with

28:36

anal. So yeah. Interesting.

28:39

Is he circumcised? I

28:43

don't remember actually. I mean, probably yes.

28:46

I've just heard that like

28:48

uncircumcised penises are easier for me. Yes.

28:50

And I can actually definitely confirm that.

28:53

But interesting. Yeah. So

28:56

that was your first anal. How did

28:58

you prep for that? So

29:01

I

29:02

trained for like

29:04

months beforehand

29:05

to like make sure this was something I could actually

29:07

do, because the reason why I never thought I was going to do

29:09

anal is because I just never had any good

29:11

personal experiences in my life. And

29:14

I was like, how are girls doing this for 40 minutes

29:17

on camera? Like, what

29:19

the fuck? And I was like,

29:21

there's no way I can do this if I'm going to be in pain

29:24

the whole time. And I finally

29:26

started having some like amazing

29:28

experiences in my personal life that made

29:30

me be like, whoa, maybe this is something

29:33

I can actually do. So once

29:36

I got to that point, I started training

29:38

pretty regularly with like, you

29:40

know, the butt plug dilator

29:42

kit. And I was practicing

29:45

with Cody, with like another guy.

29:48

And yeah, I just like

29:50

got to the point where

29:51

I was like, hey, I think I can do this.

29:54

So you said that you started to have some really amazing

29:57

anal experiences in your personal life. What do you think

29:59

facilitates this? What made them amazing?

30:02

Well, with one person,

30:04

like, he was like, hey,

30:08

like, this is kind of like my forte. I am pretty good at,

30:11

like, using girls into this. I

30:14

am in a mess. So

30:17

I was like, okay, like, this is something I'm, like, really

30:20

interested in, and yeah, I definitely,

30:23

those experiences definitely kind

30:25

of taught me, like, once I figured

30:27

out, like, what felt good and how to get

30:29

there, then I was able to, like, apply

30:32

that with

30:33

other people too, and... What

30:35

did this, like, what did this anal extraordinaire

30:37

master, like, what did he do to, like, make it so great?

30:42

I don't know. We just went, like,

30:44

really slow, and I wasn't, like,

30:46

anything, like, that special, but yeah,

30:49

I know his dick was, like, pretty, like,

30:52

great for anal. Like, not all guys have good

30:54

anal dicks. What makes a good anal dick? I

31:01

mean, I guess it's different

31:02

for every girl. Obviously, uncircumcised is

31:04

definitely, like, best, because, like, the... I

31:08

don't know. You know how some dicks are, like, really hard, and,

31:10

like, other dicks are, you know, they get hard, but

31:13

they still, like, have a little, like, a bit of a quish

31:15

around them. Yeah, like, that's, like,

31:17

the best, because when a dick is, like, just too hard in

31:19

your ass, like, it's great in your pussy, because it, like,

31:22

you know, hits your G-spot and... But

31:24

in the ass, it's, like, not as great,

31:26

so... Yeah, and I

31:28

know for me, it's, like, I can't handle, like,

31:30

super, super sick dicks. Like, there was definitely,

31:32

like, some more... Within my movie,

31:35

like, all these things were great, but some were more

31:37

challenging than others, just because of, you know,

31:39

my partner's, like, girth and size,

31:41

and... Yeah. Okay,

31:44

so... Not as

31:46

girthy. Yeah. The chemistry is honestly,

31:48

like, I think the most important... Right. ...factor.

31:51

Like, if I have really great chemistry

31:53

with somebody, then, like, it's so much easier

31:56

than somebody I'm

31:57

just kind of, like... Yeah. You know...

31:59

I mean, ultimately it's a muscle, right? So the

32:02

more we relax, the better experience

32:04

we're gonna have. A lot of times, bad anal experiences

32:06

are attributed to just being nervous and uptight.

32:09

And if your partner can't make

32:11

you feel relaxed, then it's

32:13

generally not gonna be a good experience. I

32:16

also learned, and I always think about this, so

32:18

I learned from Lucy Hart, because

32:21

when she was talking about going through her transition,

32:23

she was talking about, there's

32:26

this butthole doctor in New York. I

32:29

swear to God, it was such

32:31

an eye-opening experience. This is why I love

32:33

this podcast, I learned so much.

32:35

So, barely, you can have your anal

32:37

cavity modified to

32:40

take dick better. Yeah, so I guess

32:42

some people can do better

32:44

anal because their anal cavity's more straight.

32:47

And then others are at a diagonal. Were they

32:49

like, saying? There

32:53

was a second valve, I

32:55

don't know if that's the word. Second dimension. There

32:58

was a second kind of sinker. That's

33:01

the hard part to get through

33:03

to go super deep. Wow, that's

33:05

crazy. Right, so apparently, he can, I don't know,

33:09

fix your anal cavity so you can take

33:12

dick better. I'm so jealous of girls who just have

33:14

easy assholes. I do not have an easy

33:17

asshole. It was really,

33:20

my routine going up to it is very delicate. If

33:23

I don't do what I need to do, yeah,

33:26

I need to be in the perfect situation for it to happen.

33:29

But other girls are like,

33:30

yeah, I just kind of

33:32

clean out a little bit of and then just pop a dick

33:34

in there. Some girls prefer it. Yeah,

33:37

I have to do so much stretching

33:38

if I don't stretch properly. It's gonna

33:41

be way harder. I'm so jealous of girls

33:43

with flexible stretchy assholes. I

33:46

remember Ketsuni was someone that,

33:49

Ketsuni, not Ketsumi,

33:52

because these

33:52

are two different people.

33:53

She was French, actually. She

33:58

preferred anal. Actually, sometimes, sex

34:00

would like hurt her. Yeah, and she almost

34:03

always wanted anal sex. Yeah, I heard that from

34:05

so many big anal girls I'm like, oh,

34:07

what? But yeah, now, you know, so go to

34:09

this doctor's name I don't know who he is. Go

34:11

listen to the Lucy Hart episode. He may

34:13

be named him. I don't I don't remember

34:17

She may be named him, sorry Okay,

34:20

um, so

34:22

Double penetration. Yes. Okay,

34:24

so you've conquered like they I mean that's

34:27

like you're really setting goals here Okay, you know

34:30

seemed like a big hurdle for you to overcome.

34:32

Yeah, so like so when we

34:34

know how do you do to? Yeah,

34:37

so when we initially first started talking about the movie

34:40

And doing like a showcase of my first anal

34:43

We knew that we wanted to make it an all anal showcase.

34:45

I waited so long to do anal We're like, okay,

34:48

let's just go all out And

34:50

then I had joked about like during

34:52

our meeting. I joked about that.

34:54

I would probably enjoy DP

34:56

more because I've heard about so many girls saying

34:59

that DP is way better than anal like just

35:01

anal and You

35:03

know, I like I never done

35:06

a DP my personal life Oh, you know I've like been Fox

35:08

was like a butt plug and like I

35:10

love that and and then they're like,

35:12

okay Well, what do you think about putting it in there? Like,

35:15

you know, and I'm like, you know what like you're right

35:17

Fuck it. Like let's do it. And yeah,

35:19

it's EP was the one thing that I had never done

35:22

in my personal life Like I knew when

35:24

we were gonna do it for the movie You

35:27

know Cody asked me he's like do you want to try it like

35:30

off-camera first like with another? You

35:32

know person like a me and I'm

35:34

like I thought about about like, you know what like if

35:37

I can anal was the big thing I'm like, I

35:39

need to know how to do this but the DP

35:42

I was like I want to say this for For

35:44

the camera because I knew that I was

35:46

gonna probably really like it and

35:48

I did like anal can

35:52

be the most like Intense

35:55

orgasm ever but it also is like

35:57

can be really tricky to like

35:59

get to that point because

36:02

it's such a like overwhelming feeling.

36:04

But when there's like a dick in your pussy at

36:06

the same time, oh my god, it's like

36:08

the best feeling ever. Like

36:11

any of like, uncomfort that can

36:13

come with anal, it's like just gone.

36:15

Once there's like also a dick in your pussy, it like,

36:18

I don't know, it's kind

36:20

of not distracting from like what's happening

36:22

in your ass, but I don't

36:24

know, it just feels so good. Like I'm obsessed

36:27

with it now. Like I cannot wait until I

36:29

can do another one again.

36:30

So why do you think that is? Do you think

36:32

that it just relaxes you more?

36:35

Yeah, I think it's like that added pleasure

36:38

because like sometimes I'm not having a difficult

36:40

time like

36:41

prepping for like prep with my

36:43

partner before an anal scene. Sometimes

36:46

I'll like I'll use a Hitachi like to

36:48

get myself to that first orgasm and then

36:51

it's like a lot more easier

36:53

after that. So I think it's just that added like sensation

36:56

of pleasure that really

36:59

adds to the overall feeling and then also

37:01

makes like your ass feel really good. Yeah.

37:04

So yeah, that makes sense. I remember

37:07

there was a camera

37:09

was a porn star who was telling me that her trick

37:12

to anal was actually making herself come

37:14

with Hitachi one before doing

37:16

the anal because then it automatically relaxes

37:18

you, which totally makes sense. Yeah.

37:22

So

37:24

you were quoting as saying that this showcase

37:26

profoundly changed your life in so many positive

37:28

ways. What did you mean by that? Yeah.

37:31

So

37:32

when

37:34

I found out like the showcase was going to be confirmed,

37:37

I really took that

37:40

as like a sign of my life to like

37:42

fix some things that I wasn't happy with. I

37:45

had been pretty unhappy

37:46

with like my body for a while.

37:49

I'd always been like really skinny my

37:51

whole life. And then in

37:53

like the past few years, I noticed

37:56

kind of like, I don't know if it had correlation,

37:58

but like after I had COVID. my

38:01

body started changing and I gained a

38:04

lot of weight, but it wasn't like healthy

38:06

weight. It was like, you could just

38:08

tell, like it was like, my face was really swollen,

38:11

my midsection was really swollen. And I

38:13

wasn't eating unhealthy or anything,

38:16

but I was partying a lot and.

38:18

It sounds like a bloat kind of. Yeah, and finally I went

38:21

to a doctor

38:22

and

38:25

I got diagnosed with PCOS, which

38:27

stands for polycystic

38:31

ovary

38:31

syndrome.

38:34

But it's basically like a hormone

38:36

disorder. And I realized like that's

38:38

the reason why my body was so

38:41

out of whack. Like I had too

38:43

much like testosterone in my body, which was like

38:46

leading to weight gain

38:48

and like certain areas that were

38:50

really indicative of like a hormone

38:53

problem. And yeah, I just

38:55

was really unhappy with how I looked for

38:57

a while and I didn't really know what to do. And

38:59

when I found out I was gonna do this movie, I was like,

39:02

hey, this is really like an

39:04

opportunity if ever to take

39:06

control of my life and

39:08

get my body where I want it to be.

39:12

And I decided to completely like

39:14

stop partying, stop going out, I

39:16

stopped drinking for about, like

39:20

few months I signed up with

39:23

this amazing training

39:25

program called Ultimate Performance and

39:28

it really changed my life. I

39:31

didn't drink for a good two months and

39:33

then after that, like I only like

39:36

went out like once or twice for like a birthday party

39:38

and had a couple drinks, but for the majority of it, I

39:40

just didn't do anything.

39:43

I just, I woke up at 5.30 a.m.

39:45

to go work out. I came home,

39:47

I did everything else I needed to and it was

39:49

like so, just

39:51

so healing for me to like finally take

39:53

the time to like focus on my health and my body

39:55

and like get myself to where I wanted

39:58

to be, not just like physically. Like

40:00

of course like in the end like

40:02

the pictures of my movie really proved where

40:04

I had gotten to like I never been in such peak

40:08

Fitness, but just like physically

40:10

how I felt like inside I felt so

40:12

much better and Yeah, it

40:14

was really like this movie. It was kind of like the catalyst

40:17

for me to be like okay,

40:19

like I need to take control

40:21

of this and and Be

40:24

a reflection of like the kind of performer that

40:26

I am right, right that makes

40:28

sense and also I

40:30

mean, you know, I do

40:33

Exercise just as much to try to

40:35

like maintain in physical shape, but also

40:37

like for mental Yeah Your mental

40:39

like space and the foods that you eat

40:41

and all of that stuff like it all I do

40:44

You know people just think about like fitness

40:46

and your body and being you know

40:48

However, you want to look but a lot of it has

40:50

to do with your mind, too yeah,

40:52

and like it really was like The

40:56

like I had never really worked out like regularly

40:58

before that and I ate like healthy

41:00

But I wasn't really like didn't really

41:02

know like what was working for my body But

41:05

I think the thing that made the biggest difference was just like stops

41:08

partying for a few months like that Like

41:10

I didn't realize like I mean I did

41:12

know like it was taking like quite a toll

41:15

on my mental health and I You

41:17

know, it's just hard when there's like so many industry

41:20

priorities and everything But yeah

41:22

after AVN and I think

41:24

like Exodus was the last night I I

41:26

really went out after that I was like, okay

41:28

like

41:29

no more until I shoot my showcase.

41:31

Yeah Yeah, and

41:33

then how has the partying

41:35

been like since you shot your

41:37

showcase? Yeah, I know like I've been

41:39

I've definitely been find yourself pulled back a little

41:41

bit. Yeah, I'm definitely a much more healthier with it

41:44

Like now

41:45

I'm kind of like reeling it back in again

41:47

because I got back into training,

41:49

too So I'm just like really realizing

41:51

like how I feel when I'm

41:53

being really healthy versus how I feel when I'm

41:56

like having a little bit too much fun

41:58

and having fun is great, but You

42:00

know, I'm really like figuring out that balance

42:03

now, right because it's also like not

42:05

that fun to you know Just

42:07

be eating a super strict diet

42:10

and yes not going out not

42:12

hanging out friends and like I love food

42:14

like my parents were You

42:17

know had restaurants and my mom was a private chef.

42:19

So like I really have a Appreciation

42:23

for food. Yeah. Yeah

42:24

Um, so

42:27

I mean speaking of like how do you

42:29

balance like work and

42:31

like personal mental wellness? You

42:35

know beyond not partying or whatever Yeah,

42:38

how do you strike that balance because I find that a lot of

42:40

people these days especially now that

42:43

There are cell phones and our emails or

42:45

in our hands at all times and a

42:47

lot of demand for attention Like how

42:49

do you strike that balance? Yeah, that's something

42:52

I'm still really trying to learn we

42:54

all are balancing like green

42:57

time like I

42:59

Starting to really realize like the effect it has

43:02

on like my dopamine. I got like diagnosed

43:05

recently with ADD So I'm trying to like

43:07

really pull that back into

43:10

because I realized like my phone is just

43:12

like a unlimited like dopamine Machine

43:17

and not in a great way But

43:20

it's also really tricky because my phone is

43:22

my work Like if I could I

43:24

would like get rid of my iPhone and

43:26

just have like a phone to Answer

43:28

calls and get rid of social media and everything

43:31

But unfortunately like my job is social

43:33

media and like being a presence online

43:36

So yeah, it's something I'm still

43:38

really learning how to balance but you know

43:41

therapy is Amazing.

43:44

Yeah. Oh, yeah. May

43:46

I also just recommend just because I found

43:48

that it's personally helps for me Have you

43:50

ever thought about getting like a social media manager? You

43:53

know, that would be great So

43:55

Masha does that for me and it's

43:58

great cuz like I don't

43:59

Leave comments, I don't have

44:02

to read my DMs most of the time.

44:04

Like she'll let me know if there's something that I need to see,

44:06

but

44:06

like, overall, like not

44:08

being consumed in that

44:10

world and is

44:11

very nice.

44:12

Yeah. I

44:15

mean, don't get me wrong, I'm still on my phone too much and

44:17

I still check my emails too much and

44:19

stuff like that. But especially like after I had a kid, I was

44:21

like, I got to find a way to pull back a little bit,

44:24

you know? Um, and I will say that like

44:26

having someone do all that stuff and then I don't

44:28

have to like worry about like putting up updates,

44:30

especially with how much I update my Instagram

44:32

with all like the reels and stuff from my podcast.

44:34

Like I don't fucking have time for that. Yeah. So

44:37

having someone like do that for you is I have to say it's

44:39

quite freeing. Yeah, that's really smart. I should look into

44:41

that. Justin,

44:43

it worked for me.

44:45

Um, okay. So, uh,

44:48

do you have any aspirations to ever work behind the

44:50

camera?

44:51

You know, I'm thinking

44:52

about it more and more. Um,

44:54

like a few years ago, like somebody asked

44:56

me what I would think about like directing

44:59

a few scenes and, um,

45:02

we just kind of never really got around to it. But

45:04

you know, when I first started, I, in the industry, never

45:06

really thought about that

45:07

as a possibility at all. Now,

45:10

like

45:10

more and more, it's something I'm

45:13

thinking about just because like,

45:15

after being, spending so much time

45:17

on set over these years, like I see the

45:19

way that things are done and I'm like, Oh no,

45:21

like this should be done like that. Or I

45:23

would change this, or there's like certain little details.

45:26

I was like, why isn't anybody talking

45:28

about this or things that like get overlooked that

45:30

I'm like, okay, this is driving me crazy,

45:33

but this is also not my set,

45:35

like it's, you know, not my place to necessarily

45:37

say certain things. Um, and

45:40

I'm starting to get like a lot of like creative

45:42

idea to, to that. I

45:44

think would be cool to bring to

45:47

life. So yeah, definitely,

45:51

definitely a possibility for the future. Yeah.

45:53

And I found that a lot of times, um,

45:56

performers who've spent time in front of the camera,

45:58

obviously,

45:58

um,

45:59

make great directors because they understand what it's like

46:02

to be in front of the camera. A lot of directors

46:04

have

46:04

never been in front of the camera so they don't get

46:06

what it's like when you're having

46:08

like a really hard mental health day

46:11

to put that aside and like perform

46:13

and you know how exhausting how mentally

46:16

exhausting it is to be in front of the camera. It's really

46:19

I didn't know that until I did

46:21

my Playboy I hosted that Playboy TV

46:22

show for a few seasons but

46:25

I didn't understand like

46:27

that until I experienced it and I was like oh this is

46:29

way harder

46:30

than I thought. Like

46:32

I totally on one

46:34

day on set I totally broke down and cried and I had

46:36

to like go I was like we have to stop for

46:38

an hour

46:38

because I need an hour to stop crying. I'm so

46:41

sorry this is not intentional

46:43

I recognize that this is like unprofessional

46:46

if I was behind the camera I'd be very

46:48

annoyed with myself right now but I literally like

46:50

yeah can't stop crying and I need

46:53

like I need a minute until

46:55

I had that experience I never got

46:57

it. Yeah

46:58

it's a lot. You know

47:00

well I hope that um I

47:03

hope that you you

47:04

know

47:05

you nurture that idea because

47:07

I think we definitely we also need more women behind the camera.

47:09

Yeah absolutely.

47:11

So you have

47:13

been in a

47:14

long-time relationship with somebody

47:16

who I'm very fond of many of us are very

47:19

fond of him uh Cody Steele.

47:20

Can you tell us a little bit about

47:22

how that relationship developed? Yeah

47:25

so we met I think

47:27

I was like maybe

47:30

six months into

47:32

my career

47:34

I met him on set I already

47:37

knew who he was I was

47:39

I had a little bit of a crush on him.

47:42

I

47:42

was in the fan in the sense that like I watched

47:45

his stuff but you know I was

47:47

like oh he's like really cute

47:49

and I was very excited I was going to get to work with him. It

47:52

was for the scene is is on porno

47:54

but it's hilarious. It

47:57

was for a team skit for one of their sites

47:59

called BFF. And it was

48:01

me and two other girls and

48:03

then two extras. And

48:06

it's like the scene is supposed to be that where these

48:08

like little raver girls

48:11

at a rave trying to seduce the DJ, but

48:13

it's like shot in this house with

48:16

like a two story ceiling

48:19

and it's like daytime and it's this huge living

48:21

room is just like the five of us in the living room.

48:24

And him like in the corner of the DJ

48:26

and they wanted an hour of raw footage

48:29

of us like partying and like

48:31

the city. We had to black out the

48:33

window. No, no, it was so

48:36

awkward. It was so awkward.

48:38

And yeah, but

48:41

when I was there, like, you know, nobody

48:44

was like flirting with him or trying to

48:46

like, you know, do anything with him. And I

48:48

was like, okay, you guys are gonna just stay

48:50

there. I'm gonna go,

48:53

go over there. And yeah, we

48:55

like fold around a little bit before the scene and

48:58

during the scene we had a great connection and then fold

49:00

around after the scene too. And

49:03

yeah, we like became friends after that.

49:06

And we ended up becoming

49:09

neighbors. I was renting a guest

49:12

house from another performer and

49:14

then he ended up moving into

49:16

a spare bedroom of theirs. So

49:19

we were like across the yard from each other.

49:22

So we started hanging out a lot and then yeah, and

49:25

then we ended up dating. And

49:27

now we've been dating for four years. So

49:30

how do you experience,

49:33

like what's it like dating in the industry? Cause

49:35

I've heard some people say that it's easier

49:37

to date other performers. Some

49:39

people have said it's

49:40

harder. I know it's different for everyone.

49:43

Of course, you know, the general

49:45

like layman has a hard time

49:48

figuring how one can have a relationship

49:50

with somebody that has stuff with other people. So

49:53

how does that, like, does that ever come up as an issue

49:56

for you guys?

49:57

Never. So,

50:00

I mean, my relationship with Cody is

50:02

honestly like my first real relationship in

50:05

my life. Like I've had like little ones in high school,

50:07

but like nothing really

50:10

that serious. So it's hard

50:12

for me to like compare what our

50:15

relationship would be like to anything else

50:17

because I don't really know like anything

50:19

else. But the two

50:21

of us are really like naturally open

50:24

people. We always have been. So

50:28

when it comes to like jealousy

50:30

or you know how we feel

50:32

about each other working with other people

50:34

or

50:35

you know, it just it's never

50:37

really a problem because

50:39

that's just how the way we are. We

50:42

even like fool around with other people in our like personal

50:44

lives where we are like

50:46

sexually open. But

50:50

ultimately when it comes to that, it's

50:52

easy for me to just say like that. Oh, we're

50:54

open and there's no jealousy, but there

50:57

has to be like a really strong sense of trust

51:00

as well for there to

51:02

be that. And with

51:05

him, he's always from

51:07

day one made me feel like

51:09

I am number one. He's like if

51:11

there is ever an issue, if we're ever like,

51:13

you know, if we're for

51:16

example, like having a threesome with another girl, he's

51:18

like if for whatever reason anything

51:20

happens where you're just not comfortable or you're not feeling

51:22

like just tell me. He's like, I don't care how

51:24

crazy you may think you feel or actually

51:27

are. You are my number one priority

51:30

so we can have fun with other people.

51:32

But

51:33

he's like, I want you to know that you

51:37

are number one at the end of the day. And

51:39

yeah, and then when it comes

51:41

to like working professionally, like people

51:43

just don't realize that like shooting

51:47

porn is while like, you know, we

51:49

do enjoy ourselves like it's work at

51:51

the end of the day. Like, you

51:53

know, I do not want to go home and,

51:56

you know, stay with this

51:59

other person.

51:59

So yeah,

52:02

I mean, it's kind of all about who

52:04

you come home to at night, right? I

52:07

remember there was once a performer who

52:09

when he first got in thought it would be

52:11

a good idea to send flowers

52:14

to every girl that he worked with.

52:16

And I had a

52:18

very hard time explaining to him that it

52:20

was not a good idea. And the

52:22

girls never wanted it. They were very

52:24

uncomfortable with this guy even asking

52:26

for their address. Like, yeah, his

52:29

dick was just in you for eight hours. Yeah,

52:31

I don't want him to know where I live. It

52:33

just

52:33

and it was and he was like, but it's such

52:36

a nice gesture. I'm like, it's

52:38

it's work and it's like weird. It's

52:41

just

52:41

don't yeah, I had a guy bring me flowers on set

52:44

once and it was kind of cute. But

52:46

also I was like, it

52:48

feels a little bit weird. Yeah, because this isn't

52:50

like a romantic thing. Like we're

52:53

friends didn't set us up on a blind date

52:55

or anything. Like this is work. Like

52:57

we're both being hired to perform

52:59

a job. And like while of course, like there's still

53:02

like

53:02

intimacy and you know, all that.

53:05

It's yeah, it's

53:07

a very like clear boundary. And

53:11

yeah, you know, I like we both have friends that

53:13

we love to work with. And like, for

53:15

me, like, that's the thing. Like I love to hear that they

53:17

had a great scene. I'm like, how did it go? He was like,

53:19

it was fucking great. I'm like, that's awesome. And you

53:22

know, same thing with me. And he's like, if you

53:24

ever hear that, like, I had a bad scene. He's

53:26

like, well, fuck that guy. They didn't fuck you

53:28

right. Like I wouldn't

53:30

have a talk with them because they didn't fuck

53:32

you well. Listen, you didn't fuck

53:34

my girlfriend, right? We didn't have a talk.

53:37

Yeah, I love that. So

53:41

what's your favorite thing about Cody?

53:43

Oh, my favorite thing about him.

53:47

Honestly, he's just like, he's

53:49

such a nice person. Especially

53:52

in this industry,

53:53

like there it's really

53:55

hard to come about like nice,

53:58

genuine men. And I think just.

53:59

general like it's hard to find really

54:02

amazing men and I know

54:04

for

54:06

me with him like he's just ultimately like

54:08

an amazing person he is like so

54:10

sweet and caring and honest and

54:13

yeah yeah he has really good

54:15

vibes about him.

54:17

What's the most romantic thing he's ever done for you?

54:24

There's a lot it's really hard to say.

54:26

I just put you on the side. You get to watch

54:28

it and be like VANNA! I'm

54:31

so bad when like people even if somebody's

54:33

like what what's your favorite song I'm like I like

54:35

completely like have a brain fart. No

54:39

but something really cute he

54:41

did for Christmas one

54:43

year he like found me this like antique

54:46

like 100 year old antique Tiffany's

54:50

like jewelry box. Yeah

54:52

he is like very thoughtful

54:54

when it comes to like things like like it's very

54:56

creative. So he's a good gift-giver?

54:58

Yeah he he's learned

55:00

I've like how to train him a little bit

55:03

but yeah yeah we all

55:05

I mean he's better with like experiences.

55:08

Okay okay you guys were just in Europe

55:10

right? Yeah we were we were in Estonia

55:13

and Portugal and Spain. That's amazing.

55:16

God I love Europe I miss it. One

55:18

day I'll go back there once my kids are old enough

55:21

to not shove play-doh up her nose anymore.

55:25

So did the porn industry change how you view

55:27

relationships in general? Like can

55:29

you see yourself say like you and

55:32

Cody get out of porn right and

55:34

you

55:34

get married and whatever grow old together do you

55:36

think that like you guys would have

55:38

a monogamous relationship at that point or do you think

55:41

that you would still stay open?

55:42

No I think we'd still stay open

55:43

you know we're

55:46

still open like in our personal lives

55:49

so yeah I mean I think

55:51

if we got out of porn and then we got married like I

55:53

don't think that would really change that

55:55

at all like you know if it came down to like maybe

55:58

more like having kids like I don't know that would probably be a good idea.

55:59

probably maybe

56:01

change things, but yeah, it's really hard for me to

56:03

say.

56:04

Now that makes sense. Well,

56:08

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