The series up until now has focused on individuals who have experienced spiritual trauma, but that has left some questions unanswered: what about those who perpetuate or are complicit in spiritual trauma? What about those of us who may not even know that has been the case? What about systemic spiritual trauma that is part of the fabric of our cultures? In this concluding episode, we address the other side of spiritual trauma and hear from Mark Charles about the legacy of the doctrine of discovery.

Content note: this episode references residential schools.

Correction: This episode references a shooting at a protest and the perpetrator's name in the audio is incorrect. The perpetrator was Kyle Rittenhouse, not Dylann Roof.

CreditsWritten and recorded by: Hillary McBrideGuests: William Matthews III, Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza, and K.J. RamseyExecutive producer: Leslie RobertsSound editing: Bradley Danyluk and Micaela PeragalloMusic and scoring: Jon Guerra, adapted from the album Ordinary Ways, strings performed by Valerie GuerraLogo and art: Courtney Searcy