Beth and James Deppa have a huge passion for helping couples create this mindset. They have been working on this for over 5 years. They are doing this because they struggled in their first marriages. The desire to not make the same mistakes again, they started to learn how to do this. They have been mentored by some of the best, read books, listened to podcasts, researched online and talked with people in different fields and experiences. They sat down with each other and worked through it piece by piece.