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Just a quick note before we start. There

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are more sexual references in this episode

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as the court case unfolds but

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if you've come this far

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I think you can handle it. Day

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two of the trial has ended. Alan

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Cooper has got through it, well just

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about, and he'll be back in the dock

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tomorrow. He's leaving

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court and heading back to a friend's house where

0:52

he's staying during the trial. He

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passes a television shop with a dozen

0:57

TVs in the window.

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His face is on all of them.

1:02

Alan's headline news. He's

1:06

exhausted, drained. He gets

1:08

in and kicks off his shoes. He changes out

1:11

of his tie and his ill-fitting suit

1:13

but he can't relax.

1:16

Alan is halfway through the trial.

1:19

So far six witnesses have testified

1:22

against him. The prosecution

1:24

and defence seem to be neck and neck. No

1:27

one knows which way it's going to go. In less

1:30

than 24 hours

1:32

Alan will finally be called

1:34

to give evidence. Alan

1:37

jumps. It's

1:40

Tony Jennings, his defence barrister.

1:43

But he doesn't sound like he did in court that day,

1:45

commanding and confident. Tony

1:48

sounds different,

1:49

concerned. He was

1:52

cautious to tell me that I shouldn't come

1:54

across as like animal rights, sort

1:56

of extremist, you know. I

1:58

thought it might not look good.

1:59

with the jewellery, I assume.

2:02

The message is clear. If he

2:05

wants to win the troll, he

2:07

needs to win over the jewellery.

2:10

Alan needs to appear

2:12

respectable. Animal

2:14

rights activists were seen as scruffs, troublemakers,

2:17

extremists even, not

2:20

by everyone, but by a lot

2:22

of people. Alan

2:24

needs to turn on the charm, hold

2:27

it together. It's not prison,

2:29

he fears now. It's falling

2:32

apart.

2:33

I realised I had to concentrate 100%

2:38

on everything I said. I knew what

2:40

was at stake.

2:42

Serious mental breakdown. Stakes

2:44

don't get much higher than that, do they? The

2:47

accusations, the humiliation,

2:51

the abuse,

2:52

it's almost overwhelmed him already.

2:56

With the trial on a knife

2:58

edge, it's obvious to everyone,

3:00

including Alan, that everything

3:02

now depends on what he does

3:05

and says in the witness

3:06

box.

3:08

His performance will

3:10

dictate whether he walks

3:11

out of court or

3:14

leaves

3:15

in the back

3:17

of a prison van.

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From Wandery and Blanchard House, I'm

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Becky Milligan and this

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is HUCKNESS OF MY

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F HUCKNESS

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OF MY F Episode 5.

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On The Hook

3:52

The

3:56

last prosecution witness is on the stand

3:59

and the first piece of material

4:01

evidence, a colour photograph taken with an underwater

4:04

camera by a diver,

4:06

Neil Hope. It could seal Alan's fate. The prosecution

4:09

says it's a photograph of

4:13

Alan sexually abusing Freddy. But what precisely

4:15

does the photo show? Well,

4:21

I'm looking at a copy of that photo. It's

4:22

a bit faded,

4:25

but it's not quite as

4:28

a bit faded. It was

4:30

taken more than 30 years ago. But

4:33

you can

4:34

still see a lot. Alan

4:37

is underwater and he's close

4:40

to the camera. His torso's

4:42

in shot, but his head isn't. He's

4:45

wearing his signature wetsuit. A

4:47

fluorescent

4:47

yellow arm floats

4:49

into form.

4:51

Now, if you look closely, you

4:54

can see something next to Alan's

4:56

arm. A shape. It's

4:58

touching Alan's wrist. And

5:01

it's about 12 inches long. This

5:05

is Freddy's penis. So,

5:08

how does the photo land in court?

5:10

I mean, I wouldn't infer anything

5:12

from that, I have to say.

5:15

Dr Peter Evans was called as

5:17

an expert witness for the defence. He's

5:19

an expert in marine mammals and

5:22

at the time was based at Oxford

5:24

University. He didn't

5:26

appear in court, but he was asked to

5:28

review all the evidence before the trial

5:31

and provided a written testimony.

5:32

That looks like the

5:35

dolphin's penis and obviously it's

5:38

close to

5:39

Alan, but so what is

5:42

my response to that?

5:47

So, what? Even

5:49

though the prosecution presents this photograph

5:52

as a kind of trump card, it's a

5:55

bit underwhelming. Yes,

5:58

it shows Freddy's penis. But

6:00

it doesn't actually seem to reveal

6:02

Alan doing anything with it.

6:06

The prosecution barrister David Wood goes

6:09

out with a whimper.

6:11

And that concludes the case for the

6:13

Crown, your Honour. Members

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of the jury.

6:18

Time for Alan's barrister Tony

6:21

Jennings to open the case for

6:23

the defence. If I can

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direct your attention to the television

6:26

screen, there's something I'd like you all to see.

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A TV to the right side of the judge

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flicks on.

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A video starts to

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play.

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The video shows Freddy

6:41

swimming in Amble Harbour. And

6:43

there are people in the water with him. It's

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a happy, playful scene. Swimmers

6:48

enjoying the company of a wild dolphin.

6:50

But if

6:53

you look a little closer, Freddy's

6:55

erection is clearly visible.

6:57

It

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says Tony Jennings is the nearest we

7:02

can get to calling Freddy as a witness.

7:07

Dolphins use their penises as tactile

7:10

instruments to explore their environment

7:12

and make contact with other animals,

7:14

including its humans. They

7:17

use the penis to hook people by the arms

7:19

or legs to pull them along. You

7:22

might assume, Members of the jury, that

7:24

there is a sexual connotation to all

7:26

of this. But it is difficult

7:29

to apply human conceptions

7:31

to a very intelligent creature

7:33

such as Freddy. And

7:37

now,

7:38

finally, it's time for Alan

7:41

to speak.

7:44

I call the defendant Alan

7:46

Cooper to the stand.

7:48

Tony Jennings looks round to see Alan

7:50

standing up.

7:51

I was like really focused when

7:54

I went into the dock 100%. I

7:56

was the most focused I've ever been in my life, actually.

7:59

I knew I had to be powerful

8:02

and Crown Court is no place to lie

8:04

or be indecisive even or

8:07

hesitant.

8:08

He can see Alan's made some

8:10

effort

8:11

just like he asked. Yeah,

8:13

comb my hair.

8:15

Alan is ushered from the defendant's

8:17

stock to the witness box. For

8:19

the first time in the trial he has a different

8:22

view of the courtroom.

8:23

He can see the faces looking

8:25

back at him, his accusers,

8:27

the jury, the press and

8:30

his

8:30

supporters too. He swears to

8:32

tell. To

8:34

choose the whole truth and nothing but the

8:36

truth.

8:38

Tony Jennings gets straight to the

8:40

point. Mr Cooper,

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did you or did you not masturbate

8:45

Freddy the Dolphin using your hands,

8:48

thighs or knees while swimming

8:50

in Amble Harbour on the 28th of September 1990?

8:55

I did not Alan says.

8:58

Mr Cooper, did you ever seek any

9:00

guidance on what to do in a situation

9:02

where you found yourself being hooked

9:04

as it's called by this wild

9:07

animal's penis?

9:08

Alan says he did. He

9:11

sought advice from Dr Horace Dobbs,

9:13

a dolphin expert, who said it

9:15

was normal for anyone swimming with a male

9:17

dolphin to be hooked and

9:20

it was really nothing to worry

9:22

about.

9:23

Horace said it's just a load of nonsense.

9:26

Just go and have a great swim, just ignore

9:28

it sort of thing. It's what male dolphins

9:31

may do.

9:32

Dr Horace Dobbs is in court as well

9:35

waiting to be called as a witness.

9:37

Though these allegations Mr Cooper

9:40

must have had a significant effect on

9:42

you and on your family, is that

9:44

right?

9:45

Alan nods.

9:46

He says his mother who died six months

9:49

before the trial

9:50

had been very upset by it all.

9:53

And what about you Mr Cooper? How

9:56

have these accusations affected you

9:58

and your experience? of

10:00

swimming with Freddy the Dolphin.

10:02

So you know it completely

10:05

destroyed the whole

10:07

experience, the swim of the wild dolphin.

10:10

And Mr Crippler, how do you feel about

10:12

the allegations that have been leveled at

10:14

you?

10:15

Alan tells the court that he's absolutely

10:18

outraged and disgusted by the allegations.

10:21

He tells them how he's received

10:23

hate mail and death threats, how

10:26

his life has been completely derailed.

10:29

No further questions.

10:31

As Tony Jennings takes his seat,

10:33

the prosecution barrister David Wood

10:36

stands. He's ready for battle.

10:39

And Alan is fighting

10:41

for survival. Yeah, if you

10:44

screw up, it's going to be a mortuary.

10:46

David Wood begins.

10:49

Now Mr Crippler, I have your police statement

10:52

in front of me. You told the

10:54

police and I quote, Sometimes

10:56

Freddy plays rough.

10:58

Other times he's very gentle.

11:01

He initiates what he wants to do.

11:04

He initiates

11:07

what he wants to do.

11:10

Can you know the mind of a dolphin, Mr

11:12

Crippler?

11:14

Alan is adamant. He

11:17

stands by his statement that

11:19

he has never manipulated

11:21

a dolphin.

11:22

So you're hearing all these stuff

11:25

and you know it's full of bullshit, you

11:28

know. And yet you

11:30

know that, but he just told that

11:33

the jury will realize that. Mr

11:35

Crippler, you also say in this police statement,

11:39

In the wild, they use their penis

11:41

as a sensory object. They sometimes

11:44

wrap themselves against boats or

11:46

rocks. Dolphins are very sensitive

11:49

and enjoy wrapping themselves against people.

11:52

In the same police statement, Mr Crippler, You

11:55

say you spent up to 300 hours

11:57

swimming with Freddy. Three

11:59

hundred hours swimming with Freddy.

11:59

hundred hours. That's

12:02

an awful lot of time, isn't it, Mr. Cooper?

12:06

Enough time to come to understand

12:08

a dolphin's urges? And

12:11

perhaps help to satisfy them?

12:16

No, says Alan.

12:17

Never.

12:19

No further questions.

12:21

Alan is escorted out of the witness

12:23

box. That's it.

12:26

His chance to defend himself is over.

12:29

Has he done enough? He doesn't

12:32

know. Either way, he's

12:34

powerless to influence the proceedings any

12:36

further. All he can do now

12:39

is listen.

12:39

And hope.

12:59

I call Dr. Horace Dobbs to

13:01

the stand.

13:02

Dr. Horace Dobbs enters

13:04

the court. He follows the usher

13:06

to the witness box. He's

13:08

a dolphin expert called by the defence

13:11

to testify in court. The

13:13

one who Alan had asked for advice about

13:15

being hooked. Dr.

13:18

Dobbs, you're the director of

13:20

International Dolphin Watch. Am I correct?

13:23

Yes, that's correct. So you're

13:25

a dolphin expert. Tell me

13:27

about Freddy the dolphin. How

13:29

does he compare to other dolphins

13:31

you've studied? Freddy is possibly

13:34

the most friendly dolphin in the world. He's

13:37

especially attracted to women. Dr.

13:41

Dobbs, is a dolphin's penis used

13:44

exclusively for sexual or

13:46

reproductive purposes? No. No,

13:49

a dolphin's penis is also used for

13:52

exploring its environment.

13:54

It's a highly sensitive appendage.

13:58

Now the court has heard that a million... Little Dolphin's

14:00

penis is almost always erect,

14:02

but the dolphin doesn't always show it. Under

14:06

what circumstances might a dolphin

14:08

show their erect penis, Dr Dobbs?

14:11

When a dolphin doesn't feel threatened,

14:14

his penis may come out. It's

14:17

not like a man flashing in our guile

14:20

street. He

14:22

sticks it out at will, like we used to

14:24

gather

14:24

now. Dr

14:26

Dobbs, in your expert opinion,

14:29

what exactly does it mean when a dolphin,

14:32

as you put it, sticks it

14:34

out at will?

14:36

Well, I suppose you might say that when a

14:38

dolphin exposes its penis,

14:40

it's extending its finger of friendship

14:43

to you.

14:47

Now, Dr Dobbs, I think I'm right in saying

14:49

that you have swum with Freddy yourself.

14:52

Tell me, did Freddy hook you

14:54

with his penis? I've swum with Freddy,

14:57

yes, and he has told me along

14:59

with his penis, plenty of times.

15:01

He either hooks it into your arm

15:04

or your legs.

15:06

I think if he wants to give people a toe with it, they should

15:08

let him do it.

15:10

Is it true, Dr Dobbs, that Mr

15:12

Cooper came to you looking for advice

15:15

on how to react to Freddy when he

15:17

initiates hooking? Yes, that

15:19

is correct. And what advice did you

15:21

give Mr Cooper? Dr Dobbs.

15:24

I told him to treat it naturally and not to reject

15:26

the dolphin because he's doing it. Freddy's

15:28

doing it as a gesture of friendship.

15:32

Dr Dobbs, what do you

15:34

think

15:34

of the allegations against Mr

15:36

Cooper? I think people

15:38

have misinterpreted what's going on. I

15:42

feel I could be the person sitting in the dock

15:44

because I gave him that advice and it

15:46

could have happened to me. No further

15:48

questions.

15:49

Dr Horace Dobbs leaves the witness

15:51

box. His testimony has

15:53

gone well for Alan. It suggests

15:56

that Alan was simply following expert

15:58

advice.

15:59

No problem.

15:59

crime in that.

16:01

The defence calls Mr Peter Evans.

16:04

Mr Evans is also a dolphin

16:07

expert, a behavioural ecologist. Now

16:09

Mr Evans can't be with us

16:11

in court today, but he has provided us with

16:13

a sworn statement.

16:16

So

16:17

they said, well, would I be able to

16:19

write something in detail that

16:22

could be read out there? And

16:24

I said, yes, that's fine. I'll do that. So

16:26

I did that. Remember, all this

16:28

happened 30 years ago, but Peter

16:32

Evans has a good memory. In

16:34

fact, he remembers everything he sent

16:36

the court. The dolphin

16:38

penis, he said, is used

16:41

as much as a greeting, as

16:43

much as the greeting as anything else, but

16:46

also for holding bonds, social

16:48

bonds, not just sexual bonds, but

16:50

social bonds. Not just sexual

16:53

bonds. So it doesn't mean

16:55

that either the dolphin was wanting

16:58

to have sex with Alan or

17:00

vice versa. I don't see

17:02

any reason why you need to interpret

17:05

the behaviour of either of those parties

17:08

as necessarily sexual, just

17:11

because a penis is the object there.

17:15

And let me read that last sentence one more time.

17:18

I don't see any reason why

17:20

you need to interpret the behaviour

17:22

of either of those parties as necessarily

17:26

sexual. The

17:28

defence thanks Mr. Evans for

17:30

his statement.

17:32

The dolphin experts seem

17:34

to be swinging the case Alan's way,

17:37

but there are always witnesses a defence

17:39

barrister hesitates to call,

17:42

witnesses whose testimony could go

17:44

either way. Turns

17:47

out there were other people on the boat that

17:49

day who must have seen

17:51

and heard everything, who

17:54

the prosecution haven't called.

17:57

Should Tony Jennings take the risk?

18:00

and call them to the stand. Mary

18:02

McKeown is Alan's junior

18:03

barrister. We had

18:06

a long discussion as to whether or not

18:09

we should be dying that

18:09

route. And in the end, Tony

18:12

decided, yeah, that he would cross-gram

18:14

them.

18:16

Tony Jennings decides to

18:18

take a gamble. A

18:20

gamble because he has no idea

18:23

precisely what they'll say. This

18:27

could easily backfire.

18:47

The trial of Alan Cooper stretches

18:50

into its fourth

18:50

day. Alan is led

18:52

to the dock. The judge

18:54

walks in. Then

18:57

the jury. And Tony

18:59

Jennings is ready to roll

19:01

the dice. The

19:04

thing is, on the 28th of September 1990, there

19:09

were a boatload of witnesses, literally.

19:12

Several people on board that boat claim

19:14

to have seen Alan's now notorious

19:17

alleged indecent act. But

19:20

for reasons Tony Jennings can only guess

19:22

at, not all of them were called by

19:24

the prosecution. He's about

19:27

to find out if he's guessed

19:29

right. I'll call

19:31

Martin Roberts to the stand.

19:33

Martin and Anne Roberts, a married couple,

19:36

were on the boat that day.

19:38

Mr Roberts, can

19:39

you confirm that on the 28th of September 1990,

19:43

you were with Gordon Easton, Peter Bloom,

19:45

and others going to see Freddie

19:47

the Dolphin at Amble Harbour? Martin

19:50

Roberts says yes. Yes, he was. Now,

19:53

I want you to think very carefully,

19:55

Mr Roberts. This is a very important

19:57

question. What exactly?

20:00

did you actually see? Put

20:03

aside everything that you've heard in this case

20:05

if you will and describe precisely what

20:07

you saw yourself

20:11

and not

20:12

what you heard described.

20:15

Martin Roberts says what he

20:17

actually saw was Alan

20:20

stroking Freddy's

20:23

belly.

20:26

No further questions. Mrs.

20:30

Anne Roberts. I call Mrs.

20:33

Anne Roberts to

20:33

the stand. By now the

20:36

atmosphere in the courtrooms electric

20:39

in the public gallery whispered conversations

20:42

in the press box reporters are scribbling

20:45

furiously. There's a sense

20:47

this trial is reaching its

20:50

climax. Head's

20:52

turn as Anne Roberts enters.

20:56

All eyes are on her as

20:58

she makes her way to the witness stand.

21:01

She swears to tell the

21:02

truth the whole truth and

21:05

nothing but the truth.

21:08

Mrs. Roberts may I remind

21:11

you that you are under oath and

21:13

what you say in this courtroom could determine

21:15

the future of the man who stands accused

21:18

today. So I say to you

21:20

what I said to your husband please

21:23

think very carefully before you

21:25

answer. Did

21:28

you see Alan Cooper masturbating

21:30

Freddy the Dolphin's penis with his

21:32

hands knees and

21:35

or flippers? Can you please

21:37

tell the court what exactly you witnessed

21:39

while you were on that boat on the

21:41

28th of September 1990? Anne

21:44

Roberts says what she

21:46

saw was Alan's hand going

21:49

up and down

21:49

Freddy's belly. Now

21:52

you were on the boat with Peter Bloom were

21:54

you not? Mr. Bloom

21:56

a dolphin trainer has given evidence in

21:59

this case. Mrs Roberts,

22:02

what do you recall Peter Bloom saying

22:04

about Alan Cooper while he was in

22:06

the water with Freddie that day?

22:09

She says Peter Bloom said

22:11

that Alan

22:13

was sexually abusing Freddie.

22:17

Now this is possibly the most important

22:20

question of all, Mrs Roberts, because

22:22

part of the prosecution case against Alan

22:24

Cooper rests on the notion that

22:26

the people on the boat, you,

22:28

Mrs Roberts and your fellow passengers, were

22:31

disgusted by what they saw

22:33

happen between Freddie the Dolphin and

22:36

Mr Cooper. Mrs

22:39

Roberts, were you disgusted

22:41

by what you saw during this incident

22:44

or by what you heard Mr Bloom say?

22:50

Anne Roberts takes a deep breath.

22:54

By what I heard,

22:56

she says. No

23:00

further questions.

23:02

And Tony Jennings

23:03

is on a roll.

23:06

I would like to call Gordon Easton

23:08

to the stand.

23:09

Gordon is the lifeboat mechanic

23:11

in Amble who takes people out to see

23:13

Freddie and swim with him, the man

23:16

behind hundreds of boat trips, including

23:18

the one on that fateful day.

23:21

You saw Freddie many times,

23:23

Mr Easton. How often may

23:26

I ask did you see his penis?

23:28

Gordon Easton tells the court that

23:30

he saw Freddie's penis quite often.

23:33

On the day in question, did you see

23:35

Freddie's penis, Mr Easton?

23:37

No, not really, says Gordon.

23:40

He said the dolphin behaved

23:42

no differently with Alan Cooper than he

23:44

did with other swimmers in the water.

23:49

Thank you, Mr Easton. That

23:52

is the case for the defence.

23:55

And that's it. The

23:57

cross-examination is over. No more

23:59

witness. witnesses. No more opportunities

24:02

for Alan, Peter Bloom or anyone

24:04

else to persuade the jury of Alan's

24:07

guilt or innocence. The

24:09

last words go to the barrister's

24:11

summations. David

24:13

Wood for the prosecution

24:15

goes first.

24:19

Members of the jury, it is the

24:21

contention of the prosecution that Alan

24:24

Cooper did perform an indecent

24:26

act on Freddy the Dolphin in Amble

24:28

Harbor. And I put it to you that

24:30

it made a certain kind of sense

24:32

for him to do so. There

24:34

was a great deal of competition to swim with

24:37

the Dolphin. So when

24:39

Mr Cooper saw a boat approaching and

24:41

saw that the boat included among its passengers one

24:44

Peter Bloom, the owner of a Dolphinarium

24:46

Mr Cooper particularly disliked, well

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it made a certain kind of sense to do something

24:52

which he knew the Dolphin would like. He

24:55

liked a great deal. To

24:57

keep the Dolphin close, to keep the Dolphin

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away from Mr Bloom and his fellow

25:02

passengers. We say Mr

25:04

Cooper performed that indecent

25:06

act, an indecent act which

25:09

outraged public decency. The

25:12

prosecution's view is that there is only one

25:14

verdict you can deliver. You should convict

25:17

Alan Cooper. Mr

25:19

Cooper is guilty.

25:25

For one last time, Tony

25:28

Jennings rises.

25:33

Members of the jury, these allegations

25:36

are false. Yes, Alan

25:39

Cooper enjoyed a close relationship

25:41

with Freddy the Dolphin.

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That is not a crime.

25:45

And yes, Alan Cooper spent 300

25:47

hours swimming with Freddy.

25:50

That is not a crime.

25:53

You have heard expert witnesses stand

25:55

in that witness box and say that it is

25:57

perfectly normal for a Dolphin

25:59

to hook up. swimmer with their penis and

26:01

pull them along in the water. That

26:04

is not sexual. It

26:07

is completely normal dolphin behavior.

26:09

Completely normal. It

26:13

is not abuse.

26:15

Far from it.

26:17

Furthermore, you have

26:18

heard a witness stand in that witness box

26:20

and say that they were not disgusted

26:22

by what they saw on the boat. They

26:25

were disgusted only by what they

26:27

heard. By what others had

26:29

told them was happening.

26:31

Witness saw nothing

26:34

because there was nothing to see.

26:36

And remember too that the prosecution

26:39

produced a photograph. A

26:41

photograph which showed nothing.

26:44

It showed nothing because again there

26:46

was nothing to see. Now these

26:50

allegations have had a very serious

26:52

effect on Mr. Cooper's life. He

26:55

has been abused in the street.

26:57

He has received death threats and for

26:59

what?

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For what?

27:04

Members of the jury, these

27:06

allegations have no basis in

27:09

fact. Alan Cooper did

27:11

not perform an indecent act with

27:13

Freddy the Dolphin. He did

27:15

not outrage public decency.

27:19

It is our contention that the

27:21

prosecution has not

27:24

established beyond reasonable

27:26

doubt that Mr. Cooper is

27:29

guilty. They have not even

27:32

come close. And there

27:34

is one reason for that and one

27:36

reason alone. It

27:39

is because Alan Cooper is

27:42

innocent.

27:48

The judge turns to the jury.

27:54

Members of the jury, the

27:57

question you must ask yourselves is

27:59

this.

27:59

Did the prosecution

28:02

present compelling evidence to establish

28:05

beyond reasonable doubt that

28:07

Alan Cooper is guilty? Guilty

28:10

of the charge against him? To

28:13

do this, you must be satisfied

28:16

on two counts. Firstly,

28:19

that Mr Cooper behaved in an indecent

28:21

manner with Freddy the Dolphin. And

28:24

by that, I mean that his actions

28:26

were lewd, obscene and

28:29

disgusting.

28:32

Secondly, if you are

28:34

certain he did indeed behave in that

28:36

way with Freddy, you must

28:38

also be satisfied that his actions

28:41

outraged public decency.

28:44

In other words, you yourselves

28:48

must be outraged by his actions. If

28:52

you are satisfied on both counts beyond

28:55

reasonable doubt, then

28:57

you must convict Alan Cooper. But

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if you believe that the prosecution has presented

29:03

insufficient evidence, then

29:06

you must find Mr Cooper not guilty,

29:10

and he will leave this court a free

29:12

man. Leave

29:14

aside anything you have read in the press.

29:17

Leave aside any prejudices you

29:19

may have. It is only

29:21

evidence that matters in a court of law,

29:24

members of the jury. This

29:27

is a very unusual charge indeed,

29:30

but it is a very serious one. A

29:34

charge that carries a possible custodial

29:36

sentence if you decide to convict Mr Cooper.

29:41

So approach your task diligently

29:44

and in all seriousness.

29:47

Consider all the evidence,

29:50

and consider what you conclude

29:53

to be the truth in this

29:55

case.

30:00

The jury retires to consider

30:02

its verdict

30:04

and all Alan can do now is wait.

30:07

You just don't know,

30:09

no one knows how a jury is going to react

30:12

or what things are going to happen.

30:14

Alan looks to his legal team for

30:16

reassurance but he doesn't

30:19

get it.

30:20

I remember 20 being very nervous

30:22

when the jury went out. I don't think I'd ever

30:24

seen him as nervous as that.

30:27

Even the supremely confident,

30:30

almost nonchalant Tony

30:32

Jennings has absolutely

30:34

no idea

30:37

whether he's done enough.

30:43

Next time it's the final episode

30:46

of Hooked on Freddy, the jury

30:48

return and we finally hear

30:50

what Peter Bloom has to say. The

30:53

irony is that it has nothing to do with me.

30:55

I've got nothing to apologise for. Who would

30:58

be to blame then? I don't know, not

31:00

me.

31:23

From Wondery and Blanchard House,

31:25

this is episode 5 of

31:28

Hooked on Freddy. The story

31:31

of an unusual friendship between

31:33

a swimmer and a wild dolphin

31:36

and the scandals

31:37

that threaten to destroy them both.

31:41

A quick note

31:41

about the dramatised exchanges

31:43

in this episode. There are no transcripts

31:46

of the court proceedings. So we've

31:48

spent a lot of time piecing together

31:51

everything we could about this trial based

31:54

on all the available records from

31:57

the time, including police records.

31:59

newspaper reports for the trial

32:02

and speaking to every participant we

32:04

could find who was willing to contribute. But

32:08

despite our best efforts, there are

32:10

a few gaps. We can't

32:12

always know every word that was said, so

32:15

we've used our extensive research to

32:17

fill those

32:17

gaps as best we could.

32:23

Parkton Frickie

32:24

is a set written and produced by

32:27

me, Becky Milligan,

32:27

with additional production by

32:30

Sharon Jones. Our managing

32:32

producers are Rachel Sibley for Wandry

32:35

and Amika Shortino-Noland for

32:37

Blanchard House. Original

32:39

music is by Daniel Lloyd Evans, Louis

32:42

Knight-Manel and Toby Matamont. Sound

32:45

design and engineering by

32:47

Vulcan Quizzletooth. Our executive

32:49

producers are Lawrence Grisel

32:51

and Rosie Pie for Blanchard House

32:54

and Michelle Martin, Rich Knight,

32:57

Jessica Rather

32:58

and Marshall Louis for Wandry. Music