Flo Gabriel (Germany) was the first person host Joe Glasgow met during his journey on El Camino de Santiago. The two pilgrims met on the train ride to Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port, the starting point for The French Way.

Flo opens up about his difficulties at home in Germany dealing with depression and alcohol abuse. He admits that looking forward to walking the Camino was at some point one of his only hopes. His big fear: not being able to start the journey.

Joe and Flo sit down in Pamplona, Spain to discuss the first part of the Camino. They focus on Flo's journey. His thoughts on the camino, his burnout at work, and everything that lead him there. Flo's story is great inspiration for anyone who feels lost, helpless, or even just bored with their day-to-day life.

RECORDED IN PAMPLONA, SPAIN