It's a weird one, folks. Our guest's audio file was corrupted and useless, so the episode is a 20 minute chop job of whatever Charles could salvage from the hosts' tracks plus a short interlude where Alex (@vodkalemonades) talks trash on behalf of all Packer fans after their come-from-behind 18-17 win.

Also, shout out to our original guest, Matt Christman, whose absence started for the best reason (his daughter's birth!) before turning scary with the downturn in his health. Get well soon, @cushbomb.

This was done last minute so our usual audio engineer has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS the low hum under my track is all on me.