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Of it's Monday. It's Masterclass.
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This is a short form
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podcast where I wax on
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academically about outward. Interest
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thrones, Or. House of the Dragon or
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your question featured on Masterclass. Book.
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My. Guest is Kelly De Vries,
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a specialist on medieval warfare.
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I was given his book
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Dr. Kelly De Vries. This
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is a regular. A bump.
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I suppose that life is she like a law.
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Is from Aaron. Aaron asks.
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How. Was knowledge of warfare passed
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on. In the modern era. we
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have military academies and such to
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pass on that information and create
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the next generation of officers. And.
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Strategists. That. Folk simply
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learn on the job. Or.
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Under Commander or did they traveled
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to learn from Master Commander The
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or is this something closer to
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how we see Korean? learn to
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books or his a neat mental
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prowess. That's.
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A very good question and Dub Dub I
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could probably answered yes to all of those.
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At the will ever mentioning Alexander
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earlier right? Yeah, I'm it out.
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Then was taught Aristotle Bolland. About.
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A critically think and so he was
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able to take that amuses in in
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in the warfare that he'd learned from
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of the his out his father from
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fighting the Illyrian than soap with the
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same thing with a black friend to
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start says of combat. And
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you know is combat experience
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a crazy and the age
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of sixteen and will carry
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through our way through until
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he dies early. Have
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some disease that is that is probably
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gotten in Spain. Ah,
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so you know there's a. There.
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Is definitely on the job training
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Joseph. Ah, everybody learns
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that. Almost
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everybody who. Will. Become
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a lord is expected to have learned
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something on the battlefield. The nobles you
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to put a new be lord out
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there with his retinue, rise with guinea
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and once you once you've been spotter,
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Obviously couldn't have somebody has more
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experience. And so forth and.
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I'm there are books there's no question
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of a Jedi has since spread quite.
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Quite. Far
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geographically and throughout the darling of
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the middle ages and to we
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get the very end when somebody
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like Christina bizarre another woman whose
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interests of warfare but as you
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will. Rise essentially using
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the Jedi Us, but then
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recognizing the gunpowder weapon is
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changing things. And in the
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early fifties sensors he writes of of
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fate arms of. Book.
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That at a seems that
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pretty wide circulation. There are others,
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the forty fifty cents or the build
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up. So what about? like Cinemax Charlemagne
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is he having his. I
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would we call them is that
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the his the warlords as us
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in the having them like school
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the arabic trained I wish we
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do. Was charlemagne to
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be really bonded? know? Ah
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it has been possible by certain
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the challenges dollars or as much
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have. Doubted. By other. Scared.
4:28
Gelatin scholars? that Charlemagne mean
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you know why? Brixton binds
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of the Jedi subprime finest,
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the Classical tax them of
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these would be read or
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read to them mom. The.
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But we don't overshoot. A
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The. There's. No question
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that, the experience on Battlefield
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A Cruise to. Through.
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Warfare you get more more. But.
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In a when the popularly fights two
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baths. By. He said that
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the add a third one, but he's
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not in the battle and he's not
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really able to see it. As
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so. You know, how
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did this a reality get the knowledge
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that he did. Baseball
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Hastings. He ran as
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a very tax play adapt and would seem
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to be a tad lead. New
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or novel notion or
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novel tactics. Were. Being
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used then and dumb. You
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know how to the choir, all that
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knowledge of swimsuit, the pies, And
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or is just from first battle
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with the uses of the second
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battle of we're not sure of.
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That. There's no question. That.
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The jetties front highness around. There's no
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question that they were used. To.
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And enliven military cases.
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But. Lunacy rate would have
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been low enough that those with dame in
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some as the south be rad. And.
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You know, are we going to be
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able to the understand what the tactics
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of the Jedi? His tactics of. Of
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front or the front side as examples
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of of strategy and tactics. Are they
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going to be of a learn those
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by listening to him and so forth
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let mad survivors in in a different
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way of at his question it's mind.
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How often where these battles can have
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a no huddle offense at that? I
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think they were always plans and battled back to
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do have a couple of bow plants run the.
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If. He said true one that John the
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Fearless. Oh, used to
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fourteen sixteen on the use the
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term mum was supposed to be
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for Al Gore. And. Forty
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fifty in these still survive. Ah, so there
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are clearly plans or trot out in this
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but going to do in this was going
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to do. Well. with
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various unit. Commanders.
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Or how much was they just went
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on the battlefield? There was certainly it.
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And enough of Knishes two grandsons, each
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of the commanders. Especially.
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Since. Urge Mutation up
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down the line would be very difficult
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that we do. You know they they
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use the banners. Would you know that
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they use music with You know that
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they used our careers to get music.
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Took off at The Tone for the
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March. Known on music
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to to give directions in the
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battle. Ah okay yeah I'm filling
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don't been to pass on a
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couple years ago. was probably based
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military. I'm missing military
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historian or of. His
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generation. Ah, But he
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he wrote a wonderful the large on
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on these of music use every track.
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The use of music in the French
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army during the war and a source
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seems that that was used. Especially.
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Of the. Reforms
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to get though the
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word around. But. I
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think that was I'm a greater deal and. What
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other instruments besides horns were used
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to communicate? Oh, drums
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would have been used to. Okay, I'll
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have, I'll be. The Ottomans had drums
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galore so that's probably how they did
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it. They said to have these germs
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the we're on opposite sides of camels.
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And. They so they would give a
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big pvm that use awesome demoralize the
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other side. But. Some you
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know it wasn't an army is in.
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A in a who takes a like crazy
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which takes of the like watching a or
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as work. With. Definitely got.
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The influence of was an herb
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the. Original place
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on the battlefield of
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armies and then. And.
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And they're obviously giving directions at
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that point. especially the do have
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a flag you maneuver. Or.
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A faint or something along those lines.
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I mean, I'm blamed
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Conquered. Use. The.
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The. Faint. The
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to brake lines of he would face. Running
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away and see if the lines of
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the Anglo Saxon for Bromwich the. A
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So there's all sorts of different
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tasks will be used. At
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the beginning about. As. Bad as to
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be given a beginner bell. A at
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watch it appears that Edward that
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Blackfriars would put archers in though
9:20
the woods on one side note,
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vineyards of the other side of
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the French are is coming through
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and he says less the first.
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Line. Come in. Does.
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That come in and will take them with
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our men at arms. Behind. You
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but as the second one comes in
9:38
early that unload on on them with
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your arrows. As an
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hour according to of those
9:45
double sources, that precisely what
9:47
happened and that second line
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is legally disrupted if not.
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You know, effectively killed. By
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those archers been in that position. But
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also knowing. To lead the
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first line pass it. On
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to keep it so that you
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know there's factor gold sophistication, At
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beginning a bow and a half.
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didn't they change? How
10:12
for example those of like maneuver. Does.
10:15
The commander who might see it or one
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of the yet I switch out. So the
10:19
woodwork? How do you got a plan? Be
10:21
right out of your flabby. And that
10:23
subset a lot of initiative. I mean
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that would have that be told. I'm
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sure if this happens the new do
10:30
this this out to do this for
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the people who were the on the
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flanks of the army. And
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they would try to camera. You. Know we
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see without a great courses. Got
10:41
very sophisticated tactics but how did
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they get excommunicated? Dumb line. It's
10:45
X Men now. watch me to
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do that. And.
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And that's the curious one. That's one that.
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To the contrary he says his his music.
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I would tended to speak to be
10:58
drums to be banners that are flooded
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that's the one that off and will
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be used on. A in
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brave heart or in our.
11:08
Your. Game of Thrones or use the
11:10
Battersea Be units, move one way or
11:13
another. Southern. The Ancient
11:15
Chinese Japanese Did are many Chinese
11:17
Japanese. It. Mostly
11:19
for banners, But you
11:21
know we're not entirely certain and
11:23
it may just have been the
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initiative. The various novels. The
11:28
Lords and the confidence that the
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commander. Had. And knows.
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To. To make maneuvers that would
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work out. And
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that. Then took
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the tactics to the next level once
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the battle has.
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