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If it's Monday it is

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may stir class this week

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are question comes from Lacy

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was a question for a

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military expert on siege warfare

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and that ass laces question

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to retired lieutenant colonel. Matthew.

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L. Cavanaugh. If you like

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lacy, have a question for

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masterclass. book at a Bold

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move.com. Okay, Here's met.

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This is irregular. And

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it's well. I

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suppose that life is she like a lot. So

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this is from Lacey. Lacey

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raids. In Martin's world, we

1:03

see siege warfare of various

1:05

sorts. One. Of

1:08

the tactics seems to be

1:10

to camp around or outside

1:12

your enemies castle and wait

1:14

until they starve. The.

1:16

Seems a rather effective method for giving

1:18

your enemy just surrender without putting your

1:21

own soldiers in harm's way. When.

1:23

In why did this method fall

1:26

out of fashion or modern international

1:28

sanctions? Just another way to enact

1:30

this. So. See.

1:33

Jersey, you know, Sieges

1:36

have been around. Well. As

1:38

long as you know, probably as long as

1:41

though. First. Apes Labs

1:43

the next day for I think I

1:45

need a wall first. Yeah, I mean

1:47

I like a. Saudi.

1:51

We've. Talked about the importance of

1:53

covering concealment and you know by

1:55

extension that's where our protection and

1:58

the moment that you have. The

2:00

ability to put up walls and project

2:02

wow, what's yours? Protect the things that

2:05

you're willing to fight for that you

2:07

deem valuable. I, you have the recipe

2:09

for. A siege. And

2:12

it it's it's. the. The

2:15

one upsmanship both of war

2:18

that's gone on through millennia

2:20

on which is almost like

2:22

a game. a constant game

2:24

of rock paper scissors where

2:26

you'll have a military adaptation

2:28

com you know. Ah, not

2:30

just a wall, but then

2:33

a different way of angling

2:35

the wall, adding a boat

2:37

or I'm adding a Us

2:39

to creating a star shape.

2:42

Or in order to

2:44

fortify. And that

2:46

in the fifteenth century, for example, you

2:48

you have the firepower that is so

2:50

powerful in the as is so strong.

2:54

That. You have the ability to

2:56

lay waste to those walls or to

2:58

quite literally knock them down sooner than

3:00

the you know. It's it's it's so.

3:03

Just in terms of I catapults owner

3:05

egg are gunpowder. Go for a more

3:08

like mobile candid mobile. Candid Fire know

3:10

how to. Yeah there was a so

3:12

it's it's a very small moment in

3:14

time. It was a Blitzkrieg down the

3:16

boot of Italy. But

3:19

the the I it is it was

3:21

a blip it like it always is

3:24

because there is no ultimate weapon. There

3:27

is no ultimate defense, and

3:30

so. Let's go back to.

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The. Question. I. Get.

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It is incredibly effective

3:39

to cut off a

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combatants from their source

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of supply. I'm

3:46

just as it's. A

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wonderful idea to cut

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off. And you

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know and as a combat and

3:55

from their foods as different food

3:58

sources or their ammunition. And

4:00

the same thing applies even

4:02

if you're in a fixed

4:05

position arms end. If I

4:07

were a time when Lancaster

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that is what I would

4:11

seek to do with Rob

4:13

which is cut him off

4:15

out from either sources of

4:17

supply or from other parts

4:19

of his parts of his

4:21

forces of because he's a

4:23

I clearly the combatants that

4:25

is fighting an away game.

4:28

Whereas the land masters. Are a lot

4:30

closer to their base supply. Yeah,

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Taiwan's. Peas. I guess his

4:35

brain fields along the way, which

4:37

is maybe another way to. And

4:40

no limit your your opponents resources

4:42

and I guess. Yeah. I

4:44

and there is a by the

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way, that means there is a

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chapter in our book about siege

4:51

warfare. And.

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It gets an issue that. That.

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Pops up over and over again in the

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In Them in the show. Ah Young the

5:00

Black Fish At one moment mentioned sieges are

5:03

dull because they are don't like their it.

5:05

There are others, a whole lot action and

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then there's a whole lot of waiting around.

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But. Not them back

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pedal on myself, but ah, It's.

5:14

All dependent upon the

5:16

value of the object.

5:18

You know if that

5:20

particular castle or fixed

5:22

position is important enough.

5:25

Ah, then. You'd.

5:27

Be willing to wait for forever

5:29

to to just started out. You

5:31

know, whatever actions you choose I

5:34

think is a little bit less

5:36

interesting. It's more interesting. When

5:38

you're asking questions of how long are we

5:40

willing to put up. You.

5:43

Know put up the fight in order to

5:45

shut the same down. so. Gunpowder

5:47

really was the end of nights

5:50

and castles. I

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mean, I have ever since I'm getting the

5:55

i mean it it. There's a point in

5:57

which. The

5:59

available. Gunpowder and the mobile

6:01

firepower on hand it overwhelms to

6:03

do you know the defenses if

6:06

castles but those be you know

6:08

the then you start coming up

6:11

with a. Bigger. And

6:13

better engineering designs are that

6:15

are not going to crumble

6:17

in the face of are

6:19

superior firepower. He don't generally

6:22

speaking in the modern era

6:24

since the beginning since World

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War One. Of Firepower

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has one day. The.

6:31

Race between firepower and army or

6:33

armor or protect see it is

6:35

the reason that the question is

6:38

asked about the The Game of

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Thrones world of why sieges are

6:42

important and starving starving out the

6:45

occupants is important is is frankly

6:47

because the they lack the firepower

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in works at. Level.

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Those walls. Not unless you have

6:53

a dragon which at that moment

6:56

they did not have. Nowadays.

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Ah we can see what modern firepower

7:01

can do to buildings and protective structures.

7:03

I mean modern firepower can level the

7:06

are able them which is which is

7:08

awful but it is on display right

7:10

now and the badly so that's interesting

7:13

so least place he suggested that the

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reason why is. It seem like

7:17

a good idea was because you're. Putting. Fewer

7:19

troops in harm's way, but

7:21

if you're lord who doesn't

7:23

care about these troops, It

7:27

could be like you said just

7:29

could be used on feel you

7:32

have the enough force grass to

7:34

over the wall a threat yeah

7:36

and a arms Again those walls

7:38

or are a different version of

7:40

the same military problem is a

7:43

river. So when someone

7:45

is force your a job.

7:49

On a castle or a fortress.

7:52

Particularly. As depicted in the

7:54

show and in in the

7:56

book of the approach to

7:58

those walls is. They did.

8:01

You. Are not covered in, you are

8:03

not concealed. Now you can construct

8:06

siege engines which help you get

8:08

a little bit closer, but eventually

8:10

you gotta go up those walls.

8:12

Ah eventual you've got to approach

8:14

those god though, the front door

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and so there are you are.

8:19

You. Are a ripe target if

8:21

you are a target. Rich

8:23

environment for the defenders. Of

8:26

and so we are. It is so.

8:29

Again it it it goes back to

8:31

what is the value of of. Taking

8:34

down that objective: How many

8:36

men are you willing to

8:38

spend? How much time are

8:40

you willing to use in

8:42

order to achieve that objective?

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8:49

Thrones explains modern military conflicts?

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