For episode 125, we thought we would do something different. Jon Wolf and I don’t know each other, but we have exchanged lots of DMs debating data and statistics and nuance.

Since Peter Zeihan, Bill Brandenburg and Stephen Vladeck are all very happy to share opinion pieces but not be debated on their positions, Jon stands in.

It’s a fun discussion and the reason I think long form podcasts will replace mainstream media circa Joe Rogan who is already the most trusted voice In America.

Hope you enjoy.