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to human monsters. Part
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one, Robert Lee Yates. Robert
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Lee Yates was born on the May 27, 1952
4:45
in Oak Harbor, Washington. He
4:49
was born with a history of violence. Example,
4:53
in 1945 his grandmother took
4:56
up an axe and slayed
4:58
his grandfather. His
5:01
father witnessed the aftermath while his
5:03
mother sat quietly in her room,
5:07
relaxing. Somehow such
5:09
a grisly scene could transpire
5:11
in this house without
5:14
a marked disruption in their
5:16
daily routine. His
5:18
grandmother snapped after having
5:20
11 children
5:23
with little help from her husband
5:26
who was often away working. She
5:29
spent the subsequent seven years
5:31
in a psychiatric hospital. The
5:37
Robert Lee Yates of this story,
5:41
named after his father, but
5:43
known by most as Bobby, was
5:47
remembered as a quiet child. He
5:50
was polite, minded
5:52
his manners, and stayed
5:54
out of trouble. He was
5:56
raised in a safe and quiet
5:59
community, which no doubt
6:01
contributed to his deferential and
6:04
people-pleasing tendencies. His
6:07
father also brought him to
6:09
the Seventh-day Adventist Church. He
6:12
attended, after he inculcated
6:15
into Bobby the
6:17
values and beliefs of the
6:19
Adventists. Father
6:21
and son had a strong bond and
6:24
did nearly everything together. They
6:27
also shared every aspect of their
6:29
lives together. Well, there
6:32
was one secret Bobby could not bring
6:35
himself to share with his father. When
6:38
Bobby was six years old, he
6:41
was molested by a neighbor who
6:43
was five years his senior. He
6:47
didn't tell anyone about it. After
6:52
graduating high school, Bobby
6:54
attended classes at Skagit
6:57
Valley College, where
6:59
he graduated in 1972 with a degree in general studies. He
7:06
didn't bother to attend graduate school.
7:11
Bobby Yates did not jump
7:13
on the generational bandwagon with
7:16
his male contemporaries. He didn't
7:18
grow his hair long. He
7:21
didn't do drugs. He continued
7:23
with the hobbies he picked up during
7:25
his youth, like hunting,
7:27
fishing, shooting, and
7:30
hiking. Indeed, he
7:32
was an outdoorsman. Bobby
7:36
Yates was married once to
7:39
a woman named Shirley Nylander.
7:42
He was 20 years old. They
7:45
fell in love quickly, married in
7:47
haste, and were just as
7:49
quickly living together. They
7:52
soon moved to a
7:54
college place in Walla Walla,
7:56
where they could pursue their studies
7:59
together. Part
8:01
of the appeal for Bobby was
8:03
that it was run by the
8:05
Seventh-Day Adventists. The
8:11
marriage was not to last
8:13
18 months in and
8:16
they separated on acrimonious
8:18
terms. By that point
8:20
he had already met a woman that appealed
8:22
to him, Linda Brewer.
8:26
Apparently she was really something else
8:28
for she enabled him to get over
8:31
Shirley in short order. Maybe
8:33
she had big tits. I don't know. Bobby
8:36
and Linda had a child together in
8:39
1974. Realizing
8:41
he was responsible for another
8:44
life, he took a job
8:46
at Washington State Penitentiary as
8:49
a corrections officer. This
8:51
would enable him to stay in Walla Walla
8:54
as he'd hoped he would. Six
8:58
months later he resigned with
9:01
no explanation other than working
9:03
in that position was
9:05
not for him. Rejecting
9:07
such plebeian occupations,
9:10
Bobby decided to pursue his
9:12
lifelong aspiration to become an
9:15
aviator, joining the
9:17
armed forces and serving
9:20
with the Air Force. He
9:22
passed all the tests and was
9:25
accepted. During
9:28
his time home, Linda began
9:30
to observe some strange behaviors
9:33
in Bobby. A
9:35
month after their wedding, she discovered
9:37
he had drilled a hole in
9:39
the wall. The hole outfitted him
9:42
with a view of the neighbor's
9:44
bedroom. Linda was
9:46
weirded out and disgusted. She
9:49
immediately left him. This
9:52
became a pattern. She
9:54
Would learn about his aberrant sexual
9:57
proclivities, throw up in her mouth
9:59
a little. Leave him.
10:02
But. Eventually return. Part
10:04
of the reason she would
10:07
return was that his income
10:09
provided security for their family
10:11
or children. Also wanted the
10:13
security of having both parents
10:16
around. Bobby
10:20
was a highly skilled helicopter
10:22
pilot. so much so, he
10:25
received several medals during his
10:27
years of service. When
10:33
Linda attended military social
10:35
functions with him, people
10:37
reacted like they were
10:39
surprised he was married.
10:44
Ninety Ninety Five Bobby
10:46
was now stations in
10:49
Fort Rucker, Alabama. Eighteen
10:55
months away from qualifying
10:57
for a military pension
10:59
and retirement. Bobby.
11:01
Tendered his resignation, No
11:04
explanation was given. Those
11:07
close to him personally and
11:09
professionally were either baffled or
11:11
a know we'd Either way,
11:14
nobody could make sense of
11:16
it. Bobby
11:18
announced to his family.
11:21
That. They were moving to
11:24
Spokane, Washington. Whether or
11:26
not it came across
11:28
to them as incredibly
11:30
random, He was fucking
11:32
happening. End of story.
11:35
One possible reason Bobby decided
11:37
to resign from the military
11:40
was at the type of
11:42
helicopter he specialized in had
11:44
become obsolete, or least the
11:47
military perceived it as such.
11:49
Bobby must have considered that
11:51
he, too, would have fallen
11:53
into obsolescence in their eyes.
11:57
the government was making cuts
11:59
to the military and offered
12:02
financial incentives to staff who
12:04
left voluntarily. He
12:06
had served for 21 years, so
12:09
conjecture had it among many that
12:11
he was simply bored with the
12:13
whole thing. By
12:18
the time they moved to Spokane,
12:20
the love between Bobby and Linda
12:23
had dwindled down to nothing. She
12:26
decided to stay with him for the sake of
12:28
the children. There
12:31
weren't any opportunities for a helicopter
12:33
pilot in this town, so
12:36
he accepted a position working as
12:38
a factory worker in
12:41
a factory that manufactured parts for
12:43
machines. Eventually he
12:45
was laid off and went to
12:47
work at an aluminum processing plant.
12:50
Nobody among his colleagues would
12:52
have remembered the paternal figure
12:55
as anything but reliable and
12:57
friendly. He was
12:59
never perceived by any of them as
13:01
serial killer material. People
13:04
wonder what the telltale signs of
13:07
such a person are, but
13:10
it's not like he's going to read
13:12
the obituary column in the newspaper with
13:15
a piercing erection. They
13:17
don't usually send out those creepy vibes
13:19
we associate with that type of offender.
13:23
Bobby came to miss military life,
13:26
so in 1997 he applied to and was accepted
13:28
by the National Guard, with which he served three
13:30
years. Due
13:37
to a medical issue, he was suspended
13:39
from flying helicopters. The
13:42
periods during which he was strictly
13:45
earthbound was spring of 1998 to
13:47
spring of 1999. As
13:52
It turned out, the residents of
13:54
Spokane were safer with him in
13:57
the sky. Bobby
14:02
Yates began to train
14:05
is cross hairs on
14:07
people whose lives he
14:09
was more than happy
14:11
to extinguish. He targeted
14:14
people he felt were
14:16
characterized by conventional society
14:18
as human garbage, people
14:21
like the homeless and
14:23
especially in Gates's per
14:25
view prostitutes. He
14:27
would wind himself up with
14:30
narcotics before he embarked on
14:32
an onslaught of me. August
14:39
Twenty Sixth, Ninety Ninety
14:42
Seven. Military veteran
14:44
Larry Jones was out for
14:46
a walk in. Decided to
14:48
collect soft drink cans along
14:51
the way for some pocket
14:53
money. At
14:55
eleven o'clock am. He
14:58
was heading down East Springfield
15:00
Street when he spotted a
15:02
corpse have concealed be nice
15:05
a tree. The body
15:07
was that of a young woman. She
15:10
was half naked. It
15:12
was clear as she had been
15:15
left there for a long time
15:17
because their skin was weathered after
15:19
prolonged exposure to the elements. While
15:24
detectives were examining the area,
15:26
they found a gallon of
15:28
blood splattered across the parking
15:30
lot near by. They
15:33
quickly surmised that the body
15:36
was dragged across the lot,
15:38
over in embankment and finally
15:40
to the tree. It
15:44
was time to break out
15:46
the vapor rub. The body
15:48
was in an advanced stage
15:50
of decomposition, it
15:52
was so foul this odor he
15:54
didn't have to be a rookie
15:56
to puke up your coffee and
15:58
donuts A
16:01
second body was found. This was discovered
16:04
by the side of the road nearby.
16:07
It had been dragged out into the middle
16:09
of a field. The
16:11
stench made it impossible to determine
16:13
the approximate date of
16:16
death. This corpse was
16:18
discovered by the family upon
16:20
whose farm the body found
16:22
its final resting place. The
16:25
body was of a young woman, and it
16:28
was teeming with maggots. Her
16:30
skin was leathery from
16:32
rot. The
16:34
decomposition was so advanced, the
16:37
coroner could not even determine
16:39
the girl's racial ancestry. Some
16:43
clues found near the corpse
16:45
included a condom,
16:48
a pair of high heels, a
16:51
broken car radio antenna, a
16:53
pair of black underpants, a
16:56
towel that had been drenched in
16:58
blood, and blood
17:00
stains on some of the flora.
17:04
Her hair color was impossible to
17:07
discern because it was matted with
17:09
dirt and blood. Chunks
17:12
of her flesh had been removed.
17:15
Animal predation was proposed as
17:17
a cause, but was not
17:19
proven. A small
17:22
circular perforation suggested
17:26
a bullet wound. The
17:28
autopsy concluded that she died
17:30
from gunshot wounds in the
17:33
chest and shoulder. She
17:35
was shot with a .22 caliber pistol.
17:40
The girl found by the parking lot
17:42
died from a shot fired from a
17:44
.25 caliber gun.
17:47
She was shot in the head. She
17:49
hadn't decomposed as much as the other
17:51
girl, so the police were
17:54
able to get a fingerprint. After
17:56
entering the print into the computer,
17:59
an officer got a match. Heather
18:02
Hernandez, a 20-year-old
18:04
drifter from Arizona. Because
18:07
of her nomadic lifestyle, few people
18:09
knew much about her. The
18:13
closest the police got to ascertaining
18:16
the identity of the other girl
18:18
was when they were given the
18:20
name Jennifer Kim. The
18:22
name was an alias, but what was
18:24
known was that she was 19 years
18:28
old and had been acquainted
18:30
with Heather Hernandez. After
18:33
probing into the matter of the
18:35
name further, police discovered
18:37
that Jennifer Kim's real name
18:39
was Jennifer Joseph. According
18:42
to her parents, her stated
18:44
age was also incorrect. She
18:47
was 16. She was the
18:49
daughter of a military officer and
18:52
spent her youth traveling all over
18:54
America. Her mother was
18:56
in Hawaii at the time of her death.
18:59
Jennifer was in Spokane
19:01
with her boyfriend. He
19:04
left weeks before she died. Police wanted to
19:06
get in touch with him to see
19:09
if he might be a suspect. Bobby
19:16
Yates had taken to spending
19:18
his leisure time in a
19:20
section of Spokane known by
19:22
locals as Skid Row. It
19:26
was the place where sex workers,
19:28
drug dealers, and other people
19:30
who operated at the fringes
19:33
of society would congregate
19:35
to socialize or do business.
19:39
His Ford 1979 van, I don't know what
19:41
model it is and I
19:43
don't give a fuck. I'm not a car
19:47
guy, but that van
19:49
became a fixture of Skid Row. When
19:52
Bobby Yates wasn't banging
19:54
prostitutes, he was hanging out
19:57
with them, learning their
19:59
names, or pseudonyms, who
20:02
had crotch-rot all that shit.
20:05
He was an enthusiastic drug user,
20:08
so spending time in those
20:10
parts meant he benefited from
20:12
that standpoint. He
20:14
had point so many hookers that
20:17
they knew him by name, which
20:19
was an alias. They even trusted
20:22
him, or at least they
20:24
trusted him as much as they could
20:26
trust a trick. He
20:28
always paid, he didn't beat them up,
20:31
no scat, no animals. He
20:34
would even incorporate some drinks
20:36
or drugs into the occasion.
20:39
That made sense since many
20:41
sex workers are addicts. Many
20:45
prostitutes have regular johns,
20:48
and servicing them is
20:50
always preferable to some random creep
20:52
from the street. Finding
20:58
associates of Jennifer Johnson among
21:00
the sex workers who
21:03
would be willing to cooperate in
21:05
the investigation was not easy. She
21:08
was well-liked among that contingent.
21:11
She was part Korean, and apparently
21:14
the clientele serviced in that area
21:16
of the city were
21:18
struck with yellow fever. The
21:21
sex workers identified their johns
21:24
by the vehicles they drove.
21:31
Throughout the investigation, there
21:34
were many leads that led to nowhere.
21:37
However, one day,
21:40
Detective Rick Grabenstein received
21:42
a phone call from a sex worker who
21:45
was a familiar face on Skid Row,
21:48
but retained anonymity over
21:50
the phone. She recalled
21:52
a 1970s van to
21:55
the officer. What would have
21:57
by then be referred to as by comedians
22:01
a 70s date rape van.
22:04
Whether any rapes took place in the
22:06
van was unknown at
22:08
that time. Whether
22:10
the paint job was an illustration of
22:12
a wizard like from the back of
22:15
Led Zeppelin IV that was so common
22:17
among van owners in the 70s also
22:21
remains unknown. Actually
22:23
the outer decor of the
22:25
van wasn't nearly so interesting.
22:28
It was a dark shit brown
22:30
Chevy with a light beige panel
22:33
highlight with brown
22:35
flames as if
22:37
Bobby Yates shat on it
22:39
himself. On the back of the
22:41
van where one customarily kept
22:44
the spare tire was
22:46
an eagle bird
22:48
of prey. Interesting. The
22:52
girl said the driver was white likely
22:55
middle-aged and his hair
22:57
was also brown. Difficult
22:59
to discern exactly which shade
23:02
from among the gradient of
23:04
feces but this man
23:07
was surrounded by brown in
23:09
her recollection. The
23:11
70s was the golden age of
23:13
brown so seeing it on the
23:16
outdated van in question came as
23:18
no surprise. When
23:20
the girl agreed to talk to
23:23
the detective he was required to
23:25
honor the condition that he not
23:27
contact her parents to tell them
23:30
she was a prostitute or
23:32
at least not unless they
23:34
had a defibrillator nearby. He
23:38
asked her why that van was
23:40
particularly memorable. One
23:42
thing she pointed out was that the
23:45
second time she saw it the windows
23:47
were tinted. Tinted windows
23:49
were perceived as a red flag
23:52
among the sex workers of Skid
23:54
Row. Other prostitutes
23:56
who had dealings with the driver
23:58
said he was harmed. but
24:01
the woman being interviewed by
24:03
Grabenstein wasn't buying it.
24:06
She saw Heather get into the van a
24:08
few days before her body was found. In
24:12
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24:14
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24:17
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24:20
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24:22
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24:24
a fair price. But there
24:27
was a dark side to their business. It
24:29
was truly a house of horror. He
24:32
said she may have dismembered him and sold
24:34
parts of him. I'm
24:36
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record one suspicious incidents
26:56
involving Bobby. One
26:59
night he went out weights
27:01
and didn't return until after
27:03
six am. Linda
27:05
lock the doors so he had
27:07
to knock to be permitted inside.
27:10
He gathered up all the cleaning
27:12
supplies and made a beeline for
27:14
the Vn. Linda followed
27:17
him out there. There.
27:19
Were huge splotches of blood
27:21
all over the interior of
27:23
the San. The
27:26
pull down caught looked like it
27:28
had been dipped in blood. He
27:31
told Linda he ran over a
27:33
dog and that he in the
27:36
dog's owner brought the animals remains
27:38
in the van. The
27:40
furthest thing from Blenders mind
27:42
was that he was soaking
27:44
up the remains of a
27:47
dead hooker. So she accepted
27:49
this story. More
27:54
women disappeared. Some
27:56
of the names word Darla,
27:58
Scott, Sean John, Sin, and
28:01
Laurie Ways and they weren't
28:03
all sex workers, but they
28:05
were heavily immersed in the
28:07
local drug scene. November
28:14
fifth, a man was walking
28:16
his dog near Hangman Valley
28:19
Road. His dog was attracted
28:21
to one spot for days.
28:25
On this day his owner decided
28:27
to investigate the spot. He
28:30
found a dead woman. He
28:32
called is finding into the police.
28:38
The murderer made a half ass
28:40
attempt to bury the body. The
28:42
head and arm and a leg
28:45
were visible but the rest of
28:47
for was buried. It
28:49
had been decomposing and animals to
28:51
bite out of the body. The
28:54
entire right side of the head
28:56
had been stripped of it's flesh,
28:59
leaving a Bears goal with a
29:01
strip of errant hair flapping in
29:03
the wind. The
29:05
animals west teeth marks in her
29:08
flesh. There was a round hole
29:10
in the back of her head
29:12
suggesting she had been shot. The
29:16
animals torn muscle and see
29:18
new from the woman's shoulder.
29:20
The same damage was spotted
29:22
on the right foot and
29:24
ankle. She was
29:26
wearing a Mickey Mouse t shirt
29:29
which was torn and bloodied. Exact
29:33
estimates of the woman's
29:35
age eluded the coroner
29:37
as he performed the
29:39
autopsy. Conjecture had
29:41
it there she was between twenty
29:44
and thirty years old. It wasn't
29:46
so difficult to ascertain the cause
29:48
of death. She had
29:50
been shot in the head twice. he
29:53
couldn't even get the size of the
29:56
bullets right since they passed straight through
29:58
the head and were found at
30:00
the scene. Swabs of
30:03
the victims vagina, anus,
30:05
and mouth were taken to
30:07
find traces of foreign DNA.
30:11
On November 12th dental
30:13
records revealed that the
30:15
victim was Darla Scott.
30:18
After interviewing her family and friends
30:20
it was discovered that she was
30:22
a drug addict who had once
30:24
quit because she became pregnant and
30:26
did not want to harm the
30:29
baby. Though she hoped
30:31
the baby would keep her off
30:33
the streets, she ultimately
30:35
fell back into addiction after
30:38
the child was born and
30:40
turned to prostitution to finance her
30:42
habit. Sometimes she
30:44
would travel from state to
30:47
state with truckers providing
30:49
sexual services in exchange
30:52
for drugs and transportation.
30:58
December 7th the
31:00
body of Melinda Mercer was found.
31:03
This body was found in the
31:05
city of Tacoma, Washington which
31:08
is a long distance from Spokane.
31:11
No matter where you went to in
31:13
Washington State at that time, the
31:16
local climate despite being
31:18
heavy in precipitation still
31:20
left the streets running with the
31:23
blood of young women. Melinda
31:26
was naked when her body was
31:28
discovered. It appeared that no
31:30
effort was made to conceal her
31:32
remains. A casing from a
31:35
25 caliber bullet was
31:37
found. None of her
31:39
belongings remained in the vicinity of her
31:41
body. Police surmised
31:43
that a car had brought her to
31:46
the spot where she was dumped. Melinda
31:49
was a waitress who was fondly
31:51
remembered by all who knew her.
31:55
She was a kind woman, but
31:57
she aligned herself with the seedy
31:59
Underbelly. Really have to coma
32:01
and other cities in Washington
32:03
state enough to turn tricks
32:05
when she was hard up
32:07
for cash. She was a
32:09
drifter, moving frequently within the
32:12
state. Belinda as
32:14
cause of death was multiple gunshots
32:16
to the head. December.
32:21
Eighteenth, the body of Shaun
32:23
Johnson was found by a
32:25
crew of maintenance workers. This
32:29
was another corpse there was found
32:31
on Hang Valley Road. Without
32:33
for seeing it, the municipal
32:35
officials who named that street
32:37
made a sick joke. No
32:41
attempt was made to bury this body.
32:43
She was just dumped. Some
32:47
natural detritus like leaves
32:49
and other discarded flora
32:51
were thrown a top
32:53
her, but they were
32:55
more effective as decoration
32:58
than as concealment. The
33:01
offender was as unconcerned about getting
33:03
caught as he was about the
33:05
life of this victim and all
33:08
the lives for death would affect.
33:11
The post mortem analysis
33:13
would present more data
33:15
to the coroner. Since
33:17
the cold weather brought
33:19
the decomposition process to
33:21
a standstill. Identification
33:24
would take time though since
33:26
her belongings were not sound
33:28
close by. To
33:30
plastic bags were placed over her
33:33
head. Sad, you know,
33:35
anal an oral swabs were taken
33:37
to detect the presence of foreign
33:40
dna. Soon,
33:43
Sean Johnson's identity was confirmed.
33:45
She had been a sex
33:47
worker in Skid Row. Her
33:50
diary was found. All
33:53
she wanted out of wife was
33:55
to become a wife, mother, and
33:57
homeowner. drugs and press
34:00
a barricade around all that. A
34:07
countywide task force was assembled
34:09
to track down what law
34:11
enforcement now knew was a
34:13
serial killer. December
34:20
26th, two
34:22
more bodies turned up. Lori
34:26
Wason and Sean McClanahan.
34:30
They were found in Spokane. They
34:33
had been on a missing persons list before they were
34:35
found. There
34:37
was a possibility with these women that
34:39
it might not have been a serial
34:41
killer who was responsible. Both
34:44
women had cooperated with police
34:46
and were known as snitches.
34:50
There were likely many people who wanted
34:52
them to disappear. They
34:54
had also stolen from people and
34:56
again, that's not exactly a surefire
34:59
way to ingratiate herself to
35:01
other people on the street.
35:05
They were placed side by side
35:07
in a gully within the wooded
35:09
area of Spokane. They
35:12
were discovered by a local attorney
35:15
and his son as they were out
35:17
for a walk. One
35:19
of the women was missing a foot. They
35:22
were both covered in natural detritus
35:24
and snow. Oddly,
35:27
the leaves and branches were
35:29
not indigenous to the area.
35:33
Did the murderer go on
35:35
scavenger hunts in other forests
35:37
to find material to conceal
35:39
his corpses? Apparently
35:41
so. Detectives
35:45
consulted data regarding the types
35:47
of flora that was found
35:49
within different areas of Washington
35:52
State to find out where
35:54
the samples were harvested. As
35:58
with most of the other victims, the victims were found. The
36:00
two women were shot with 25 caliber
36:03
bullets. Plastic bags
36:05
were placed over both their heads.
36:09
Three to be exact, on
36:11
each. The
36:13
outermost bag was a plug for
36:15
Safeway. Most others
36:17
were barren of logos. A
36:20
Kmart bag was pressed up against
36:22
one girl's skin. That
36:24
ladder bag bore graphics of
36:27
characters from Sesame Street. Another's
36:30
thick joke. A
36:32
paper towel was also included
36:35
in Lori's dressings. Both
36:38
of the women were shot twice in the
36:40
head, execution style,
36:43
which had become this killer's
36:45
calling card. DNA
36:47
analysis was conducted on hairs that
36:49
were taken from the bodies. The
36:56
investigators struggled as false
36:59
leads and faulty intel
37:01
was brought in by a coterie of
37:04
street people. The
37:06
FBI provided some assistance with
37:08
their profiling, but the description
37:10
was too broad. February 8th. Yet
37:18
another body was found by a
37:20
pedestrian walking down a road west
37:22
of Spokane County. There
37:25
were three plastic bags wrapped around
37:27
its head. She
37:30
was killed with a single gunshot
37:32
wound to the head. The body
37:34
had decomposed to such an
37:36
extent that even determining
37:38
the gender was not something that could
37:40
be deserved. It was something that could
37:42
be distinguished by sight alone. Animals
37:46
feasted on her, tearing
37:48
chunks of her left arm
37:50
off and eating away most
37:52
of the hand. Her
37:54
skin exhibited symptoms of putrefaction and
37:56
decay due to the death of
37:58
a woman. you having been
38:00
left out in the elements for a
38:02
long time. Following
38:05
an autopsy, an identification
38:07
was made. A woman
38:09
from the missing persons list by
38:12
the name of Sunny Oster. April
38:17
1st. Another body
38:19
was found by two parents and their
38:22
child as they walked along 14th Street.
38:25
It had been dumped close to
38:28
the spot where Sean McClenahan and
38:30
Lori Watson were discovered. It
38:33
was left in the same drainage
38:35
ditch as the others. The
38:37
killer had thrown leaves and grass
38:40
over her in an attempt to
38:43
conceal the body, but
38:45
inclement weather blew the detritus
38:47
aside. Three plastic
38:50
bags were wrapped around the head. One
38:53
gunshot was found to be the cause
38:55
of death. She
38:57
was identified as Linda Davies, who
39:00
had been on the missing persons list. A
39:03
condom was found between the cheeks of
39:05
her buttocks and was entered
39:08
into the lab for analysis. Michelin
39:15
Durning was found. She
39:18
was discovered in a vacant parking lot.
39:21
She was naked. The executioner
39:23
put branches and a cover
39:25
from a hot tub over
39:27
her. There was
39:29
a single gunshot on her head from a
39:31
.25 caliber pistol. August
39:38
1st. Christine Smith
39:40
was a prostitute. This
39:43
night a man pulled up in his van and
39:47
asked him if he was
39:49
the serial killer. He
39:52
said no. He said he
39:54
was an Army veteran and a father of
39:56
five. Christine
39:59
bought it. and got in
40:01
the van. He asked her for
40:03
oral sex, but it was
40:05
a struggle for her to help him achieve
40:08
an erection, a process
40:10
that took her several minutes. As
40:13
she did so, she suddenly
40:15
felt a painful, piercing sensation
40:17
in the back of her head. She
40:21
was shot, though it didn't kill
40:23
her. At first, she thought
40:25
he hit her. He
40:27
was yelling at her about how he
40:29
wanted his money back because he couldn't
40:32
get an erection. She
40:34
managed to scramble out of the van
40:36
and run away. She
40:39
ran down the street all the way to a
40:41
rehab center. Seeing the
40:43
extent to which she had been injured,
40:45
they called the medics. October,
40:50
a body was found in
40:53
a ditch. She was
40:55
Connie LaFontaine Ellis. She
40:58
was found in Tacoma. Towards
41:03
the end of 1999, Robert
41:05
Yates brought the corpse
41:08
of Melody Murphon to his house
41:11
where he burned it in the backyard. September
41:17
15, 1999. The detectives
41:21
brought in Robert Lee Yates
41:23
for questioning. He
41:25
was uncomfortable the entire time,
41:28
sweating bullets throughout. They
41:30
asked him if he had ever
41:33
hired prostitutes. He said
41:35
he had, though in Germany
41:37
while he was in the military.
41:40
He claimed to have never done it
41:42
in Spokane. He was
41:44
asked for alibis but was
41:47
unable to produce them. He
41:49
was asked for a blood sample
41:51
but refused, which was
41:54
his legal right as an American
41:56
citizen. A
42:00
blood sample that was taken from a
42:02
Corvette that was driven by Robert Yates
42:05
was a match for a prostitute
42:07
he hired. April
42:13
17th, police arrested
42:16
Robert Lee Yates shortly after he
42:18
left his house for work. He
42:21
was informed he was suspected of committing murder.
42:23
18 murders, that is. Reportedly,
42:28
he appeared unconcerned.
42:34
Due to DNA evidence and
42:36
witness testimony, Robert Lee
42:38
Yates was convicted, in the end,
42:41
with 13 counts of
42:43
first-degree murder. He
42:45
was also charged with first-degree attempted
42:47
murder when it came to the
42:49
girl who got away, who was
42:51
known as Christine. Yates
42:54
and his lawyers agreed to a
42:57
plea deal to avoid the death
42:59
penalty in exchange for his confession.
43:03
A trial was averted, and
43:05
he was sentenced to 408 years in prison. There
43:13
was more conviction and sentencing to
43:15
come. Pierce
43:17
County Police accused him of
43:20
committing two more murders, those
43:22
of Melinda Mercer and Connie
43:25
LaFontaine Ellis. The
43:27
prosecutors were able to convince the judge
43:29
to sentence him to death. However,
43:32
the law states that he would have
43:35
to serve the 408 years before being
43:37
executed. Yates
43:43
remains in prison to this day. Part
43:49
2. Gert van
43:51
Rooyen and Joey Harroff
43:55
South Africa has the unfortunate reputation of being the country with
43:58
the fact that the police are not the only one. third
44:00
highest rate of serial
44:03
killers in the world, only
44:05
preceded by the United States of
44:08
America and the United Kingdom.
44:11
Over the past century,
44:13
112 active serial
44:15
killers were convicted in South
44:18
Africa, which effectively means
44:20
at any given time in the
44:22
country's history. There has been
44:24
one or more active
44:26
serial killers within the borders
44:29
of the country. Of
44:31
all the prolific serial killers
44:33
who claimed the southern tip
44:35
of Africa with its
44:38
magnificent beaches, towering
44:40
mountain ranges, and abundant
44:42
fauna and flora, there
44:45
is one, the man
44:47
who brought home to
44:49
citizens that monsters don't
44:51
have green scales, fangs,
44:54
and hide in your nightmares.
44:57
The scariest monsters might
45:00
be your neighbor, your fellow
45:02
church member, or even your
45:04
own father. During
45:10
the period in 1988 to
45:13
1989, the cities of Pierter-Merritsburg,
45:16
Johannesburg, and Pretoria were
45:18
in the state of
45:21
continuous terror, since
45:23
six young girls between the ages
45:25
of nine and 16 seemed
45:29
to have vanished without a trace.
45:32
Police launched a frantic search,
45:34
but due to the lack
45:36
of information and evidence, the
45:38
missing girls seemed to have
45:40
disappeared like mist before the
45:42
sun. On
45:46
the 1st of August 1988, Tracy
45:48
Lee Scott Crosby, aged 14, from
45:50
Randburg disappeared from the Cresta Shopping
45:55
Center. She was last seen entering a vault in
45:57
the city of West Virginia. Volkswagen
46:00
Beetle, but no other information
46:02
was available. Her brother,
46:05
who originally would have accompanied her,
46:08
would struggle with his choice not
46:10
to join her for many years
46:12
afterwards and in a
46:14
bizarre twist. He was years later
46:16
convicted of beating a farm worker
46:19
unconscious and then throwing the
46:21
limp man's body to the
46:24
lions to feed upon. The
46:27
conviction was later overturned, but
46:29
Tracy's brother was just one
46:31
of the unknown victims whose
46:34
lives were scarred by
46:36
an evil that would leave more questions
46:39
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the twenty second of December
49:19
nineteen eat twelve year old
49:21
Fiona Harvey from peered through
49:23
mirrors birds disappeared on your
49:25
way to the corner shop
49:27
to buy some milk for
49:29
her mother. Witnesses would recall
49:31
white trucks with van ruin building
49:33
contractors written on the side of
49:36
the vehicle. Police
49:38
would not immediately release the
49:40
abduction to the cases in
49:42
Pretoria and surrounding area, but
49:45
it would later emerged that
49:47
the suspects spend time not
49:49
only and Gauteng, but also
49:52
the coastal resorts of course,
49:54
Zulu near Towel. Sadly,
49:56
Her body is wanna be six
49:59
disappeared girl. whose bodies
50:01
were never found, and
50:03
the only clue to what might have happened
50:05
to Fiona was the witnessing
50:07
of the pickup truck with the company logo.
50:11
On the 7th of June
50:13
1989, 9-year-old Joan Horn was
50:16
abducted on her way to
50:18
school, never to be seen again.
50:21
Once again, police had no clues
50:23
to follow up. Police
50:25
were becoming frustrated with the
50:27
mounting case files which seemed
50:29
to be connected, although
50:32
how they were connected seemed elusive.
50:35
Pretoria was the capital of the
50:37
country and known as one of
50:39
the friendliest cities for students. It
50:42
was also during the apartheid era
50:44
that the crimes occurred, and
50:47
suburban middle-class white folks were not
50:49
prepared for the darkness that was
50:51
not meant to happen behind white
50:53
picket fences. The
50:56
danger seemed not to
50:58
belong amongst looming jacaranda
51:00
trees and manicured gardens.
51:05
During July 1989,
51:08
16-year-old Janet Delport
51:10
from Pierre Meuritzburg
51:13
would be found wandering around in
51:15
a drugged daze after she
51:18
was reported earlier in the day as missing.
51:21
Due to the drugs in her
51:23
system, or perhaps because she would
51:25
have a psychological block on her
51:27
memory at the time she was
51:29
abducted, she would offer
51:31
police no information about the abduction.
51:35
Only later Janet would realize, as
51:37
the story of the six missing
51:39
girls would unfold, regardless
51:41
of what had happened during those
51:43
missing hours, she was one of
51:45
the lucky ones to escape. Janet
51:49
Rosa Peel would, however, disappear
51:51
a couple of weeks later.
51:55
Police by now were well aware of
51:57
the modus operandi of the perpetrator and
51:59
despite the Despite the fact that there
52:01
was not a single piece of evidence to
52:03
link Rosa's abduction to the others, detectives
52:06
believed they were looking for the
52:08
same man. Soon
52:11
afterwards, Odette Boucher, aged
52:14
13, and Anne-Marie
52:17
Waupannar, aged 11, would
52:19
together be abducted on their way
52:21
to school on the 22nd of
52:23
September 1989. On
52:26
the 29th of September 1989,
52:28
Anne-Marie's mother would receive a
52:30
letter from Anne-Marie saying
52:32
that she and Odette had run
52:35
away to the coast with some
52:37
boys. Since the
52:39
content was completely out of line with
52:41
their daughter's personality, Anne-Marie's
52:43
mother took the letter to the
52:45
detective in charge and both agreed
52:48
that the letter was written under
52:50
duress. The
52:52
abductor or abductors were becoming
52:54
brazen. All
52:56
the kidnappings took place in broad
52:58
daylight and in public places such
53:01
as shopping centers. Still,
53:03
the teams of detectives who
53:05
dedicated all their time, energy,
53:07
and resources to catch a
53:10
predator had practically no information,
53:12
no leads, and it was
53:14
as if six young girls
53:16
just vanished without a single
53:18
trace. Detectives
53:20
were especially concerned with the escalation
53:22
of the number of abductions. The
53:25
time between kidnappings became less
53:27
and openly taking two girls
53:29
in daylight indicated to police
53:31
that the culprit was very
53:33
good at what he did,
53:35
highly intelligent and a pure
53:37
psychopath. Very little
53:40
was known as far as
53:42
serial murderers and predators of
53:44
serial offenders, but police
53:46
knew from previous international cases
53:48
that the escalation in part
53:51
was not a good sign.
53:53
It is an unfortunate barometer, but
53:56
the faster the escalation, the more
53:58
likely the perpetrator Would make
54:00
more mistakes please. Could not
54:03
understand how the abductor, who
54:05
according to the psychological profile
54:07
was definitely a white male,
54:09
could not only get away
54:11
with his crimes, but do
54:14
it almost effortlessly. Yolanda
54:18
Wessels was very familiar with
54:20
the House at Two Two
54:22
Seven Mahler Be Street. It.
54:25
Was the home of her aunt. Friend.
54:27
See know your Hannah her half
54:29
Better known as Joey's home. On
54:32
the afternoon of Twenty Second of
54:35
December, Nineteen Eighty Nine, she left
54:37
your home to visit with a
54:39
rant also never to be seen
54:41
again. Detectives interviewed her
54:43
off, but she would later be
54:46
described as a harmless, friendly old
54:48
lady eager to assist in the
54:50
disappearance of her nice. Little
54:53
did they know or even
54:55
suspect that they were speaking
54:57
to one half of the
55:00
most notorious international serial killer
55:02
couples in the world. Friends
55:05
and family would later
55:07
describe Harassed as a
55:09
gentle soul, always pleasant
55:11
and soft spoken and
55:13
as a change in
55:15
her only came after
55:17
she fell in love
55:19
with Cornelius Gar Hondas
55:21
Von Rogan. Known. As
55:24
gert many believed she was
55:26
seduced by Van Ryan who
55:28
seemed short with a slight
55:30
hunch and not very attractive
55:32
in comparison with the by
55:35
vicious and good looking younger
55:37
woman. It is
55:39
however difficult to consolidate this
55:41
impression with the woman who
55:43
repeatedly and willingly lord girls
55:46
to our car including her
55:48
own flesh and blood with
55:50
a gentle natured woman's people
55:52
described. Love could
55:54
not possibly be that blind. it
55:57
is more likely that like her lover
56:00
Harhoff acted very well the
56:02
part of a respectable housewife
56:04
image she successfully portrayed to
56:06
the world. The
56:10
11th of January 1990 was
56:12
a beautiful summer's day in Pretoria,
56:14
capital city of South Africa. 16-year-old
56:18
Joan Boyens was late for
56:20
her connecting bus to
56:22
her high school, which would be another quarter
56:24
of an hour of waiting. Joan
56:27
had hardly been standing at the
56:29
bus stop at Church Square when
56:32
a friendly, blonde, middle-aged woman
56:35
stopped next to her and asked
56:37
what school she was attending. Joan
56:40
told her when the woman offered to take
56:42
her to her school. Joan
56:45
didn't hesitate. Joan was aware
56:47
of stranger danger, but this lady could have
56:49
been the mother of any of her friends.
56:55
Once in the car, the conversation
56:57
flowed comfortably. The woman
56:59
asked if Joan would mind if they could
57:01
stop at her house to let her people
57:03
know she was taking Joan to school. Joan
57:06
did not mind, and soon they pulled into
57:08
the driveway of a neat home in one
57:10
of the leafy suburbs of Pretoria. The
57:15
woman entered the house but came
57:17
out minutes later and asked Joan if
57:19
she would mind waiting inside since
57:21
no one was at home. Joan obliged.
57:26
Once inside, she noted how tidy
57:28
the house was. Most
57:30
of the doors in the house were
57:32
closed, but she saw school uniforms from
57:34
different schools on a bed and asked
57:37
the woman whose name was Joey Harhoff.
57:42
Whose clothes the items
57:45
were. Harhoff told Joan
57:47
the uniforms belonged to her children
57:49
and she was planning on donating
57:51
the items. Once
57:56
in the master bedroom, Joan turned around to find Harhoff and
57:58
asked if she could find the items. had vanished
58:00
and instead the menacing figure
58:03
of a man who she
58:05
later described as having devilish
58:07
eyes was grabbing her and
58:09
forcing her to kiss him. Utterly
58:12
shocked and repulsed, Joan
58:15
fought back. The man who
58:17
would later be identified as Gert Van
58:20
Ruyen punched her in the face
58:22
and by the time Joan had regained her
58:24
focus, she found she was staring down
58:26
the barrel of a gun. As
58:29
Van Ruyen lifted her from the bed with
58:31
a headlock, Harhoff entered with
58:34
a handful of pills, stockings,
58:37
handcuffs, tape, and a
58:39
glass of water. The magnitude
58:42
of her situation and the realization
58:44
that this kind woman was not
58:46
going to help her hit
58:48
her at once. Joan
58:50
was forced to drink the tablets. She
58:53
was tied up, gagged, after
58:55
which Van Ruyen proceeded to
58:58
sexually assault her. She
59:00
was then locked up in a closet where
59:03
she lost consciousness for a while. It
59:06
is important to know that Joan
59:08
was small for her age and
59:10
that Van Ruyen usually abducted younger
59:12
victims. Joan immediately
59:15
started loosening her bindings and
59:17
managed to open the closet
59:19
door. The drugs
59:21
she had been forced to drink had
59:23
not completely worn off, but
59:25
despite being terrified, she knew she had
59:28
to escape. Fortunately, Harhoff
59:30
was in the backyard, completely
59:32
unaware of her abductee's escape.
59:35
Joan made it to the front door,
59:37
always alert for any other signs of
59:40
the man who had molested her and
59:42
by pure luck found the front
59:44
door open. Dazed and
59:46
confused, she made her way to the street.
59:49
But Harhoff noticed her escaping and
59:51
ran after her. A
59:54
motorist finally stopped, took in
59:56
the disheveled girl. escape
1:00:00
of Joan Boyens would
1:00:02
lead investigators to what
1:00:05
the press dubbed the House of
1:00:07
Horrors. The motorist took
1:00:09
in the frantic girl with a pair
1:00:12
of handcuffs still attached to her arm
1:00:14
and told the woman that they should
1:00:16
take the situation to her residence instead
1:00:19
of sorting it out in the street.
1:00:22
Joan pleaded with the motorist and would not
1:00:24
let go of his arm. Once
1:00:27
in his vehicle, through a
1:00:29
river of tears, she once again
1:00:31
begged the Samaritan to not take
1:00:33
her back to the house. Fortunately,
1:00:36
the kind man promised the frightened
1:00:38
girl not to and they immediately
1:00:40
made their way to the nearest
1:00:42
police station. She was
1:00:44
still so heavily under the influence of
1:00:46
the narcotics that she had to be
1:00:48
carried into the police station. Once
1:00:51
inside, her invaluable statement
1:00:53
would finally give the task
1:00:56
team from across South Africa
1:00:58
not one but two names
1:01:00
to the monsters who had
1:01:03
been terrorizing the suburban streets
1:01:05
of South Africa. The
1:01:09
task team immediately after getting the
1:01:11
statement headed for the home Joan
1:01:14
identified, but their suspects who they
1:01:16
by now have identified as Joey
1:01:18
Harhoff and Gert Van Royen had
1:01:21
clearly made a run for it.
1:01:24
Apart from agreeing to maintain surveillance
1:01:26
on the residence, a massive
1:01:28
manhunt started on the 11th of January
1:01:30
1990. According
1:01:34
to Harhoff's daughter, they had
1:01:36
returned from Clark's door after
1:01:38
their visiting family on
1:01:41
the 13th of January 1990 to
1:01:44
find the window near the front door had been broken.
1:01:47
Amor would later in her book about
1:01:49
the tremendous abuse she had suffered under
1:01:51
her mother, Joey, explain
1:01:54
that she and her husband proceeded to enter
1:01:56
the house. Van Royen
1:01:59
and Harhoff had appeared from
1:02:01
the main bedroom, clearly half
1:02:03
asleep, and through the ramblings,
1:02:06
Amor could figure out that her
1:02:08
mother and her mother's lover had
1:02:10
kidnapped a child for ransom, and
1:02:13
that the child had escaped. Amor
1:02:15
had no idea how
1:02:18
dark the truth would eventually be, and
1:02:20
how it would cost her husband his
1:02:23
job, and caused them not only to
1:02:25
lose everything they had worked for, but
1:02:27
also caused an entire community to
1:02:30
blame and resent the couple, despite
1:02:32
the fact that their only relation to
1:02:35
the crime is that Amor was related
1:02:37
to one of the suspects. Little
1:02:41
is known about where they were in
1:02:43
the five days that followed Jones' kidnapping.
1:02:46
They did hide for a night
1:02:48
in Amor's home, as well as
1:02:50
at Harhoff's sister's house, and
1:02:53
records would later reveal that
1:02:55
they went to KwaZulu, Natal,
1:02:57
only to return to Pretoria a day later.
1:03:02
Why the couple decided on the
1:03:04
evening of the 15th of January
1:03:06
1990 to return to their residence
1:03:08
at 227 Moller
1:03:11
B Street, no one will ever know. According
1:03:15
to Detective Inspector Don Chandler,
1:03:17
who became involved with the
1:03:19
case after Fiona Harvey was
1:03:22
abducted, would later in
1:03:24
a radio interview tell a captive audience
1:03:26
what he first-hand experienced. The
1:03:30
moment the couple noticed the presence
1:03:32
of police, they fled in
1:03:34
Van Ruyen's white pickup truck, and
1:03:36
a short car chase ensued. Detective
1:03:40
Chandler would testify that all
1:03:42
police staff involved in the
1:03:44
case were under strict instructions
1:03:46
not to kill either of
1:03:48
the occupants. As
1:03:50
the white pickup truck crossed
1:03:52
the creek that serves as
1:03:54
unofficial border between Capital Park
1:03:57
and Pretoria West, both
1:03:59
the left fell to the left. front and back wheels
1:04:01
were shot out and the
1:04:03
vehicle came to a grinding halt. Detective
1:04:06
Chandler would later admit that he
1:04:08
played the events that followed over
1:04:10
an overness head. He
1:04:13
saw as Van Rooyen pulled Harhoff's
1:04:15
head down to the gear lever
1:04:17
and saw as a shot was
1:04:19
fired. Van Rooyen's
1:04:21
door was locked and before any
1:04:24
of the police officers involved could
1:04:26
act, he shot himself. Van
1:04:29
Rooyen and Harhoff had, according
1:04:31
to a last will and testament, found
1:04:33
at their home, decided to
1:04:36
make a suicide pact. Neither
1:04:38
of them would ever be held
1:04:40
accountable for the devastation they caused
1:04:42
and after their deaths, families
1:04:45
were no closer to finding their
1:04:47
children. At
1:04:50
227 Mollerby Street, police
1:04:52
started collecting forensic evidence.
1:04:55
Odette's perfect pin, an Anne-Marie's
1:04:57
school bag as well as
1:04:59
her address would be
1:05:01
found hidden under a carpet. The
1:05:04
stationery in which the so-called letter
1:05:06
of the missing girls had
1:05:09
written was also found. Still,
1:05:11
despite turning the garden and
1:05:13
house upside down in their
1:05:16
search, no remains of the
1:05:18
girls would be found. Absa
1:05:20
Bank would in May of 1990
1:05:23
donate the Van Rooyen house to
1:05:25
the police and a forensic teen
1:05:27
would systematically comb through every inch
1:05:30
of the property, but
1:05:32
hardly any new evidence would surface.
1:05:39
There's not much available as far as
1:05:41
the history of the duo whose acts
1:05:43
would leave broken families in its wake.
1:05:46
Cornelius Garhodis Van Rooyen was
1:05:48
born on the 11th of
1:05:50
April 1938. His first brush
1:05:54
with the law was in
1:05:56
1954, during which he stole
1:05:58
clothing and fired a knife. arm and a
1:06:00
vehicle. Subsequently, he was
1:06:02
sent to a reform school. He
1:06:06
married Aleta Van Rooyen, and together
1:06:08
they had six children. The
1:06:10
marriage was, however, rocky, and they
1:06:12
would eventually divorce. In 1979,
1:06:15
Van Rooyen abducted two young girls, aged 10 and 13, and drove
1:06:17
them to the heart
1:06:24
of Beasportem, where he forced
1:06:26
them to strip and perform
1:06:28
sexual acts on him. South
1:06:31
Africa would, however, only be implementing
1:06:34
a national register for sex offenders
1:06:36
in 2007. It
1:06:40
was, therefore, easy to hide the fact that
1:06:42
he was a pedophile. Once
1:06:44
he had fulfilled his sexual desires, he
1:06:47
took them back to Pretoria. Consequently,
1:06:50
the girls reported the crime, and Van Rooyen
1:06:53
was sentenced to only four years jail time,
1:06:55
but released early on good behavior. After his
1:06:57
release, he successfully integrated himself back
1:07:06
into the community and operated a building
1:07:08
contractor business in partnership with his brothers,
1:07:13
with some success. Joey
1:07:15
Herhoff entered his life somewhere during this time, there
1:07:19
is very little as far as the
1:07:21
history of the couple is concerned. Two
1:07:23
outsiders, Herhoff and
1:07:25
Van Rooyen were just an
1:07:28
ordinary middle-aged couple, and even
1:07:30
after suspicions at
1:07:33
the police station were raised, the
1:07:35
officers who went to investigate would
1:07:38
return reporting that he
1:07:40
met a harmless old lady, and
1:07:42
that absolutely nothing seemed untoward. After
1:07:46
the event of the depravity was
1:07:48
revealed, many felt that Herhoff was
1:07:51
perhaps under the influence of Van
1:07:53
Rooyen, and suffered from
1:07:55
Stockholm Syndrome, during which
1:07:57
a hostage falls in love with their captors.
1:08:00
But in a tell-all book by her
1:08:02
daughter Amor, Harrah physically,
1:08:05
emotionally, and psychologically abused
1:08:07
her own children from
1:08:09
a very small age,
1:08:12
Amor would remember laying in her
1:08:14
cot and having punches rained down
1:08:16
on her. When she
1:08:18
was older, her mother would sneak into the
1:08:20
room and punch her in
1:08:22
the stomach while she was sleeping for
1:08:24
no apparent reason. Amor's
1:08:30
father would also sexually abuse her
1:08:32
from a very young age, and
1:08:34
even after Amor's grandmother spoke to
1:08:37
Harrah, her mother would just pretend
1:08:39
as if it did not happen. Amor
1:08:41
struggled for years with the
1:08:44
trauma and emotional scars left
1:08:46
by the abuse, but
1:08:48
nothing would prepare her for the shocking news
1:08:50
that her mother, who only met Van Rooyen
1:08:52
at the beginning of 1988, was
1:08:56
an accomplice in one of the
1:08:58
worst crimes South Africa had ever
1:09:00
known. There
1:09:04
was enough to link the couple to
1:09:06
the disappearance of the six children, and
1:09:09
not enough to give any indication of
1:09:11
what might have happened to the victims.
1:09:13
To the family's closure
1:09:16
would remain elusive. Leads
1:09:19
seemed to be single loose
1:09:21
threads that seemed to unravel
1:09:23
as soon as they were
1:09:25
tugged. The family and friends
1:09:27
of the victims would repeatedly
1:09:29
have their hopes shattered by
1:09:31
false leads, and 30 years
1:09:33
later, the mystery of the
1:09:35
missing six girls remains a
1:09:37
haunting unsolved puzzle. Detective
1:09:39
Chandler never stopped searching for the
1:09:42
girls, and even after retiring in
1:09:44
1996, he
1:09:47
continued to follow up with thousands
1:09:49
of leads and interviewing the thousands
1:09:51
of witnesses. According to
1:09:53
a radio interview in 2020, the
1:09:56
human trafficking angle is a recent
1:09:58
avenue that invests investigators are pursuing.
1:10:03
Flippy Van Royan, son of
1:10:05
Gert Van Royan, was arrested
1:10:07
and found guilty of kidnapping
1:10:10
and murdering a 15-year-old foreign
1:10:12
national. He did receive
1:10:14
the death penalty, which his father no
1:10:16
doubt would have gotten, but
1:10:18
the sentence was overturned when
1:10:21
South Africa's constitution was rewritten
1:10:23
and the death penalty abolished.
1:10:26
While incarcerated, he frequently
1:10:28
made bold public statements
1:10:30
about his father's and
1:10:33
Haroff's activities. He
1:10:35
told reporters that his father kidnapped more
1:10:37
than 40 children. Flippy
1:10:40
said that his father would originally
1:10:42
kidnap black children since authorities would,
1:10:44
in pre-apartheid era, be much less
1:10:47
likely to look for children who
1:10:49
were not white. The
1:10:52
human traffic angle has always been
1:10:54
of concern, especially considering how much
1:10:56
time Van Royan spent at the
1:10:58
harbor. As a matter of
1:11:01
fact, he was working for a shipping company.
1:11:03
To hide the girls in containers
1:11:05
and export them would have been
1:11:07
easy in his position, but so
1:11:10
far all local and international leads
1:11:12
have rendered no answers.
1:11:15
Dock workers, as well as cleaning
1:11:17
staff, have, however, confirmed
1:11:19
later to police that Van Royan
1:11:22
asked them frequently for children.
1:11:26
During his many interviews in 1996, Flippy
1:11:29
Van Royan told reporters of
1:11:31
high-ranking national party members who
1:11:34
were involved in clandestine meetings
1:11:36
with his father with regards
1:11:38
to obtaining under-aged girls for
1:11:41
sexual pleasure. Flippy
1:11:43
has, however, discredited himself
1:11:46
terribly, and
1:11:48
in 2001 he was charged with
1:11:50
lying about these allegations, and
1:11:52
no one paid much heed to
1:11:54
these statements, until Detective
1:11:57
Inspector Mac Minnie and
1:11:59
reporter Chris Stain published
1:12:01
their book, The Lost Boys of
1:12:04
Bird Island, in which
1:12:06
many of the same charges
1:12:08
were made and Van Ruyen's
1:12:10
name definitely mentioned as a
1:12:12
player in a national clandestine
1:12:14
pedophile trafficking ring. The
1:12:17
book was, however, retracted and marked
1:12:19
many committed suicide in 2019, once again
1:12:24
leaving more questions than answers.
1:12:27
There was never a trial and Gert
1:12:30
Van Ruyen and Joey Harloff were never
1:12:32
charged with any crimes. In
1:12:34
light of all the witness statements
1:12:36
and evidence, there were undoubtedly the
1:12:38
masterminds of either a human
1:12:41
trafficking ring or they were kidnapping
1:12:43
and disposing of children for their
1:12:45
own sadistic reasons. The
1:12:48
devastation the missing children caused would
1:12:50
ripple through their families and touch
1:12:52
every person in the country. Many
1:12:56
of the missing six's parents would
1:12:58
divorce and a couple hired
1:13:00
psychics and private investigators and
1:13:02
in doing so would
1:13:04
grow deeper and deeper in debt. It's
1:13:07
easy to understand the desire to be
1:13:09
able to bury your child in order
1:13:12
for the grieving process to begin, but
1:13:15
after so much time, thousands
1:13:17
of witness statements and thousands
1:13:19
of leads, only parents
1:13:22
like the Bouches and retired
1:13:24
detective Dawn Chandler, still
1:13:26
feel that intimate connection with the
1:13:29
case that forces them to continue
1:13:31
searching. Recently
1:13:34
after flattening the ground at the house of
1:13:36
227 Mullerby Street,
1:13:39
a group of artists erected a wall
1:13:41
of remembrance with the names of all
1:13:43
six of the girls who vanished without
1:13:46
a trace. A
1:13:48
wall might seem cold comfort to a
1:13:50
grieving parent, but the wall, which was
1:13:52
erected in 2020,
1:13:54
is perhaps the only way loved ones
1:13:56
could find some form of memorial to
1:13:59
their lost children. It
1:14:01
might not be a gravestone, but it's
1:14:03
a tribute to six little girls who
1:14:05
might be gone, but will never be
1:14:07
forgotten. This
1:14:10
episode was written by Morgan Rector
1:14:12
and Miss Demeter. Thank
1:14:16
you for listening to Human Monsters. Bye
1:14:18
for now.
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