For our fourth episode, we sit down with Professor Herman Schwartz, Professor Emeritus of Law at the American University Washington College of Law, whose decades-long career has been focused on issues of civil rights and civil liberties as they have played out in courts and prisons across the globe. He has founded, among other causes, the ACLU Prison Project and has formerly chaired the National Law Center on Homelessness and Poverty. Join us as Professor Schwartz shares his experience in the legal field as it has transformed over the years