Jack is joined by Simon Eckerström Liedholm from Wild Animal Initiative to discuss the important and neglected problem of wild animal suffering.

Topics discussed include:

2:35 - Nature documentaries 
6:56 - Simon's story 
14:23 - The case for wild animals 
20:13 - "Ecosystems are too complex" / "We'll make things worse" 
53:08 - Which animals are sentient? 
01:02:46 - Contraception
01:38:38 - Urgency to help animals vs the need for careful research before actions
01:48:04 - Hopes for the future

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