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I Am all In.

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You. I

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Am all In with Scott Patterson, an

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iHeartRadio podcast.

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This is the I Am All In Podcast. Everybody

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listening will be thrilled to know

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that this is Amy, Suzanne, Tar, and

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Danielle. It's a girls episode.

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Uh, everybody couldn't

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be happier. It couldn't be happer that I'm here. Guess

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what, Suzanne, Suzanne

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and Tar and Danielle are here also, But we are joined

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by another Amy

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and the reason we wanted to have Amy

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on and we're really actually

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super excited to have this conversation. Amy,

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tell your story before

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I reveal it, and then everyone will understand why

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you're here.

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Okay, So I had commented

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on the I Am all In page

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on Instagram and I

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was just kind of annoyed because you

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guys had been discussing it for a while and

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I was just like, I do not agree with Amy, sugarman

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whatsoever.

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That's good. I can take it. I can take it. I'm

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glad you're here.

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But you know what, I'd like that about you. I love that you're

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willing to listen to what everybody has

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to say. But basically,

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when I was pregnant with my son, my

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husband had got a phone call when he was at work,

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and then he contacted me right after that.

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An ext girlfriend had reached out and said that

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she had

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gotten pregnant a few years while she had

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gotten pregnant while they were they had broken

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up already, she found out she was pregnant and

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he could possibly be the father of

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her child. So she was reaching

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out to see if he was willing to take a DNA

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test.

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So wait, before you give us the

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more of that story, I'd love to know

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right away how he

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felt. And obviously,

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unlike Luke, he told you immediately

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and how did you feel?

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So he was terrified, but he

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was just kind of more so he

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believed it because he had said, you know, it is

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a possibility, timeline do line up

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correctly. You know, what

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are we going to do? Type of thing. And

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I was terrified because I

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was pregnant with our child. So I'm just like,

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oh my god, what are we going to do? I already

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had a bonus daughter. He had a daughter that was

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four at the time, so I figured it, well,

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yeah, so I kind of figured, well, if we have to

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figure this out, then I guess we just have another

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you know, we're gonna have to deal with it. We're going to have

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to figure out how we're going to fit this into

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our lives and where we're going to go

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from there. But we were both extremely terrified

2:46

because if it was so, we were going to

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have to have that conversation with

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you know, my bonus daughter as well as

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you know, might been when he was, you know, whenever

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he'd be old enough to understand what was going

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on.

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And that daughter, the four year

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old, is from another woman, not from

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the one who okay.

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Yeah, no, not from the same one.

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No, So okay, So I have many

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many questions, one being this

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is this?

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What?

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Like, how many years ago was this

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this?

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We will be celebrating fourteen

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years next month. So

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my oldest is eleven, so

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eleven years ago, eleven twelve.

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Years Shortly, it was a few

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years after, maybe even ten years

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after Gilmore Girls. So to

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bring it back as a fan, did you

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watch Gilmore Girls in its first run

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or did you discover it later?

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No, I watched it first run. I was actually in sixth

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grade when it first came out. Oh my goodness.

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So did you have any

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like memory of going, oh my god, this happened

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on Gilmore Girls?

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Yes, I did because I still was like

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a I still watched it when the DVDs

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came out. I bought every single DVD as they came

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out. I still to this day,

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even my seven year old daughter, No Gilmore

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Girls, Luke, Loreli, the whole shabang. My

4:04

kids all know because I've

4:06

always been obsessed. So for You're like.

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I'm definitely not going to handle this the way they

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did.

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Yes, Jefferson is definitely. I

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will say this though, as much like I'm

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so bummed that Scott's might here, but my husband

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reminds me so much of like a

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Luke character, and I really think

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that has a lot to do with why I fell in love with him,

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because he reminded me so much of Luke.

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Well, you make a good point in that, like Luke

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is a good guy, Like

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we all love Luke, now, he's not perfect.

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So when you're watching this, and I still obviously

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want to hear how this plays out, but

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when you're watching Gilmore Girls and rewatching

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it, what is your take on the way

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Luke acts

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when he finds out about April.

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I completely understand that having no idea

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what to do, but again, like I've

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just like, how can you not this is your

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partner, this is your you're supposed

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to you know, you love this woman. How do you not

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tell her right away? Like you know, this

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is what's going on. And you know, even

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if he had had explained to her like you

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know what, I don't want you to meet her right away,

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but we will find a date. So with that

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I agree with Suzanne. I'm like, you know, let's

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let's put something here so you know where

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we're going, rather than just oh,

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well, you're not going to meet her and that's that.

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How how long after he

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found out did he call you?

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Like?

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Was it a couple of days? Was it right away? Oh?

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No, it was right away. He had hung up with

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her, and then he called me that he was

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leaving work because he wanted to come home,

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and you know, he was telling me what happened,

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and he was telling me on the drive home.

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So see, that was the smart

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thing to do. I admire him for

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that. I will say that, as much as I try

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to defend Luke I and

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sort of give him the benefit of the doubt, I

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admire and much prefer what your husband

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did to what Luke did.

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I've never said it was the better choice.

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It was just his choice,

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and I'm trying to find, you

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know, support for Luke and

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the decision he made. That being said, okay,

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so then what happens

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Amy, So you so obviously he gets

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the DNA test?

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Yeah, So, and she had kind of we

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were a little upset because he and I had discussed,

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Okay, well, if this is the case, we're gonna,

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you know, we obviously he would need

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to meet with her, he would need to meet with his child

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and go from there, set up a plan, figure

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out visitation or whatever. And

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we were kind of upset because she had told him,

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well, you know, I want to find

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out if you're his father or not, but

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you're not gonna have visitation. Oh because

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yeah, because she was involved with another

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guy while she she got pregnant. She didn't

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know if it was my husband's child or the other guy's

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child, and the other guy was still with her,

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so when we were raising the child together

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and the other guy had no idea, no.

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I would be upset by that too.

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Yeah.

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So wow, oh

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my gosh, okay, I almost want

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to be like, and we're going to take a break and

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when we come back, we will find

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that.

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Right since then that guy knows

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now though, right, like.

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Then, yeah, oh yeah,

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yeah, we don't we know yet.

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Okay, so Amy, I still

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have many questions, but is it

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your husband's child?

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It is not?

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Oh wow, whoa?

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So tell us how that kind of all

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went down and sort of the waiting period,

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whoa, I know?

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So okay, the

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moment he showed me the picture of the child,

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I told him this is not your child. He

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has no resemblance to your daughter,

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there's no nothing. But then my husband

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had made a point. He was like, well, you and your siblings

7:52

don't look anything alike either, And you guys have a

7:54

different gag because my mom and dad got

7:57

beforce, my mom moved on had more children,

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and I do I look exactly like my dad. My

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sister looks exactly like her dad. Wow.

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I thought, okay, you know you're right

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in that sense. Well, we'll do what we have to do to

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find out. And then when it came

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to that it was not his child, he was just kind of

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like, okay, well you know it's not mine,

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but you know, we had to make sure that

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the other guy knew as well, because we were

8:19

not going to just let that go by

8:21

like that.

8:21

Yeah, So had he did

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he meet the.

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Child no, we did not know

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we met with her.

8:28

Okay, So it's almost as if

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she had a shadow of doubt and was

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like, I need to make sure.

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Yeah, it's odd that she didn't just oh

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I know why she didn't just get the DNA

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test with him, because she

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never proved and that there was a possibility.

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So that's why she came to you. Guys. This

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is such a weird thing. But like I

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understand sort of you'd be relieved, but maybe a

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little let down as you're preparing,

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Like in your mind you're going, okay, well we're going

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to do this, We're going to do this, We're going to have

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this third child. How

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did you feel or just feel relief? I mean

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all all would be fine.

9:05

Honestly, it was a little bit of

9:07

a letdown because he she had, you know, when

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we had seen the picture, we were just like, okay, you know,

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if he's part of our family, we'll make it

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work. I mean, we're blended already, so we were

9:16

kind of, you know, in the ups about

9:18

it and just kind of excited and thought, well, you know

9:20

that if if it is, we'll buy bunk that's

9:22

for the boys. They can share a room. We can figure

9:24

this outling. You know, yeah,

9:27

we were. We were already planning.

9:29

So did you tell.

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Your kids this or no? Not until it was

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fine obvious?

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Oh you did.

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I We told him just because I

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was so excited when I got the message from

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Jackie. So our oldest

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over overheard us talking, and then

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my daughter heard heard me say, Luke, what

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you're gonna need? Luke had

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to tell them.

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Because you

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know what I want to know. When you

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rewatch Gilmore Girls and

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this storyline comes up, it

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must land so differently on

10:03

you because you have

10:06

such a personal sort of tie

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to it.

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Yeah, it does, and I do. Like whenever

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I've come to this episode, it always I

10:16

always wonder about him and think, you know, I wonder

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if he's okay, I wonder how he's doing, you

10:21

know that type of thing. You know, it does.

10:23

And then I get so serious that Luke, because I'm like, come

10:25

on, I know you're better than this. Yeah,

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I know, You're so much better than this. Just tell

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her, Tell her.

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That was my That's what I was going to ask

10:33

is, how do you think, as kind

10:35

of being the Laurel I in

10:37

the situation, how do you

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think Laurel I handled it? Like, do

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you think that.

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I guess that's a question.

10:45

How do you think Laurrela I handled it.

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She was extremely calm to me when she

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walked in and she saw April

10:52

doing the salt and peppers, because that would

10:55

not have been a calm, calm situation

10:57

for me, right,

11:00

you know, I really think I

11:02

and I totally agree, that was not her character

11:04

to be hiding. Like when she's hiding

11:07

and she has Patty Tom, she's not there and

11:09

like, no, no, no, no, no, this is so not her.

11:12

But I mean I was just kind

11:14

of angry with her too,

11:16

like just just have this conversation

11:19

and it breaks my everything.

11:21

Yeah.

11:22

Yeah. Every time she's standing out there, she's

11:24

crying to him and they're fighting in the street and she's

11:26

but I love you, Luke, I love you. I'm like, girl,

11:28

we love him too. It's like

11:30

it always gets me. It always, yeah,

11:33

it always. And then when you see him show up

11:35

and he has the car packed and everything, and

11:37

I totally disagree with Scott. I think he did so good.

11:40

I cry every time.

11:41

Yeah, Suzanne likes that scene too. Yeah,

11:45

yeah, I totally disagree.

11:46

I'm like Scott did so well, Like I

11:48

if he did not do well, there'd be no reason for me to

11:50

be crying every time I see that episode, even though

11:53

I know he's there, I know what's coming.

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What do you think of everything that happened

11:57

with Anna in her store?

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Oh?

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How Anna reacted?

12:02

Yeah? She I feel

12:04

she Anna was so childish, And you know

12:06

what, I had to deal with that with my daughter,

12:08

my bonus Laughter's mom, because I had to explain her

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I am not trying to take your place. I'm simply her

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friend. I am not trying to be her mom.

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She has you for that, you know. And

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I'm here. I'm here to stay. I'm not going anywhere.

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And she felt the same way, like, well, it's not permanent,

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nothing's permanent. About

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fourteen years, I'd say, well it's pretty permanent,

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lady. So

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it's like, I totally don't agree

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with Anna.

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Do you still have that conversation with

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her all these years later?

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Oh yeah, that's a good question. What is your relationship

12:38

like now?

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So I have had no conversations

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with her in years because our bonus Laughter

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she just turned eighteen, so once

12:47

she was like around twelve years

12:49

old, she got a cell phone, so we pretty

12:51

much would just be able to contact

12:54

her that way and she still comes. She was

12:56

just here, you know right now. She's

12:58

loving it because she has her license so she to take

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her younger siblings back and forth to school. So,

13:03

you know, we have a good relationship and everything's

13:06

perfect with she and I, but you know,

13:08

it was difficult with her mom because

13:10

we tried to bring her in

13:12

and you know, hey, Christmas, this year is

13:14

with us. Are You're more than welcome to join us,

13:16

so you don't miss out on that with her. And you

13:18

know Halloween, you can come trick or treating

13:21

with all of us, and she will just

13:23

really pushed back and was just not having it at

13:25

all.

13:25

So gosh, I mean, that's like you guys

13:27

have really tried, and

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both you and your husband deserve credit for look,

13:33

like I said, handling it all

13:36

of this in a better fashion

13:38

than Luke Lorlai

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Anna everybody.

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Yeah. I really think it has to do with the fact that both

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of us come from broken homes. Like my father I'm

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sorry, not my father. My husband doesn't have a relationship

13:50

with his dad. I My

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parents were divorced when I was small. I didn't have

13:54

a good relationship with my dad growing up either,

13:56

so we really did not want that with our

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kids.

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Do you have any compassion for the way Luke

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deals with it? Like, is there anything

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in there where you're like, I

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can I understand it?

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Is just like you, I

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understand where he's saying he wants that relationship

14:25

with April outside

14:27

of lore life for a while, to get to know her

14:29

and understand her because Loreli is a very bubbly

14:31

person and who wouldn't want to hang out with Loreley?

14:34

I mean any of us. I totally agree

14:36

with you, Amy when you're like, I, you know what I would

14:38

do to be Lorelai for a day? Oh so

14:40

what I you know? I And I totally

14:42

understand that. And same with my husband.

14:45

He would have father daughter days. They would go

14:47

to the park, they'd go to the movies, they would

14:49

go to steph alone. I had no problem with

14:51

it because growing up with having

14:53

daddy issues, I didn't want that for her, So

14:56

I totally understand. But my only

14:59

issue again is like express this

15:01

to her. Let Laurlae know, you know

15:03

this is this is the situation,

15:05

and obviously you know you don't want it to go on for

15:07

ten fifteen years because they wanted to have children together

15:10

as well. So it's like, just find

15:12

a way to just kind of, you know, introduce

15:16

her slowly maybe and you know, you

15:19

know, let's do a dinner together all of

15:21

us and bring Rory and you know, make

15:23

it a family event. You know, for

15:25

Luke to have been wanting, you know, when he bought the big

15:27

house and you know we're gonna fill it with children,

15:30

I mean, it was just totally off character for me

15:32

with him.

15:33

Yeah, it could have been handled so

15:35

much better. I agree

15:37

with that completely. I just try so

15:39

hard to give to

15:42

come from a place of even if he's making

15:44

a bad decision with how he's handling

15:46

this, this is how he's handling it, and

15:48

I'm trying to be supportive of that. I

15:50

think that's always been sort of my message that has

15:53

probably gotten lost in a bunch of different ways.

15:55

But it's like, this is the choice he's making.

15:57

I don't know. And Lorla always

15:59

was, like I said, faking it, that

16:02

she was going along with it, and I always have felt

16:04

that's what caused the big eruption

16:06

and ultimately the breakup. In where we're

16:08

at in the series.

16:10

Oh yeah, for sure. I really think she should have expressed

16:13

herself more as well, because she kind

16:15

of just played the part and just went along with it knowing

16:17

and we can all see she's uncomfortable. She

16:19

really needed to express that. I really think

16:22

that lack of communication there is what really

16:25

took it further.

16:25

I agree, I think it was the problem. And before

16:28

you go, we would like to know how

16:30

do you feel about season seven because we're

16:32

only two episodes in and we do

16:34

seem to be struggling a little bit with season

16:37

seven not being what the

16:40

first six seas.

16:45

For me, and I totally agree with Scott when he says,

16:47

give the people what they want. Season seven could

16:49

have been all about. You know, they have their wedding,

16:52

they get pregnant, they have a baby, they

16:54

lived happily ever after, and let us just figure

16:56

out what Rory's going to do because she drives.

17:01

Without without giving spoilers for

17:03

Danielle, what did you think of the movies?

17:06

I hate the movies?

17:08

I don't Yeah, I don't hate.

17:10

They did not they did not do

17:12

justice. What is with the musical number?

17:14

You get rid of the musical number?

17:16

But do you prefer that or season

17:18

seven?

17:19

Oh? I

17:21

prefer the movies only

17:23

because we have I don't

17:25

know if y'all have their headphones and or not.

17:28

Yeah, Danielle'll just take your headphones off.

17:30

I'll take him off. I'll take them I can just you can go.

17:32

Daniel Oh my gosh, sad.

17:34

Okay, I'm gonna take him off, and you guys can talk

17:36

about spoilers.

17:39

It's just good just because we have we finally

17:41

see them together. Yeah, that's my thing.

17:43

That's all we've ever wanted and we finally

17:46

have them together. And episode nineteen,

17:49

that is literally my favorite Luke

17:52

moment at the very end with the whole

17:55

bike and fixing the car and do

17:57

that for me. That I how

18:00

my husband that moment you

18:02

did. He did something almost similar

18:04

for me because my car broke down. I cried.

18:07

I didn't want to let it go. He did almost the exact

18:09

same thing for me, and I told him that was my loose

18:11

moment with you. She's like, yeah,

18:14

that's cute.

18:16

Until you get to that one. I think I like

18:19

the movies because we got our friends

18:21

backed, you know what I mean, Like we've been away from them for

18:23

so long and the fact that they we got

18:25

them back. I just was so my

18:28

expectations were so high and I was so disappointed.

18:31

And then it also did feel a little I bet.

18:33

I was actually thinking about this in the shower the other day because

18:35

I'm like preparing to talk about them, and it's like, we

18:38

get so much Peter Krauser, and I love

18:40

Peter Krause, but I'm like what and we get

18:42

so much Set and Foster and I'm just like what,

18:45

Like there's a lot of sort

18:47

of crap in there that I'm just like.

18:49

I think, I think maybe

18:53

this is just the me thing. But I think I really

18:55

liked it because it came into my life when

18:57

I feel like I really really wanted

19:00

more Gilmore and I got it, and I

19:02

luckily I actually went to the premiere of it, So

19:04

I think for me it means something a little

19:07

bit different because the whole cast was there

19:09

and it was my favorite show and I

19:11

disliked season seven so much, and it was

19:13

like redemption for me.

19:15

I just am so not into Rory

19:17

the movie incarnation of Rory. I'm

19:19

like, yeah, yeah, character.

19:22

And also not having Richard and it was

19:24

the hardest thing to see. And I think that's

19:27

another part piece of it that people

19:29

don't like, is which I mean, that's.

19:31

Just reality, right, Like that was just

19:33

real. Yeah, But it was a hard watch

19:35

for a lot of people.

19:36

But I think that's what I liked about it because

19:39

it was a reality for them, Like, yeah,

19:41

we never.

19:42

I never was Bob. I thought that was handled.

19:45

Yeah, and like we never saw anything

19:47

in seven season seven seasons

19:49

of the show where they've been through

19:51

heartbreak, but this was a different kind

19:53

of heartbreak.

19:55

Yeah, definitely. And you know what, I have lost

19:57

my dad around that same time that those movies, So

20:00

seeing that and then having them go through

20:02

that loss and that struggle and the

20:04

family fighting and being you know, all

20:07

of that, I went through the same thing. So

20:09

it's like, man, I went through I lived through

20:11

this all my teenage years watching Gilmore,

20:13

and now I'm going through it again.

20:15

Yeah.

20:15

Yeah, But it was good to see Taylor

20:18

and all that because I think he's just the funniest in the

20:20

movie. But I was just, yeah,

20:22

I'm like, they could have done without this musical

20:24

number. We could have had the wedding, we could have had so

20:26

many more things.

20:27

I definitely forgot about that.

20:29

So you just.

20:33

Well, Amy, you're rat

20:36

Like I was like looking forward to talking

20:38

to you about like everything you've been through and hearing

20:41

your perspective, but this

20:43

is this is a great conversation and I love,

20:46

like just your whole energy

20:48

and vibe and the way you talk about

20:50

Gilmore too. So thank you so much. We

20:52

can't thank you enough for being so open and sharing your

20:54

story with us.

20:55

No, thank you guys so much. Coming back for episode

20:57

nineteen because that is my absolutely.

20:59

Actually great idea, Jackie. Make sure that

21:01

we do that. Make sure that we do that. We'll make

21:03

sure God is on And

21:06

yeah, Amy, Like, I think

21:08

what you said that really is resonated with me.

21:10

And what I've kind of realized is even though I have my

21:13

opinion because I love the

21:15

character of Luke and I want to support him, it

21:17

doesn't mean that I think he made the best choice.

21:19

I just think he made his choice.

21:21

And I'm trying to everybody's

21:24

so mad about his choice, and I'm always like, but

21:26

that's what he made, so let's find

21:28

some grace for him. But I think you make great points

21:31

and that like, yeah, there is a better

21:33

way. There was a better way for all of

21:35

them.

21:36

Yeah, And I understand, like, and at the end of the day,

21:38

no matter what, that's his child, that's his

21:40

decision, saying with you know my children, and

21:42

you know, Gimielle, that she's a new mom. It's like, we

21:45

know who we're going to allow around our children, and

21:47

we know who we're not going to allow, and for whatever reason,

21:50

you know, it's just it just kind of sucks

21:52

that it happened to me, Lorlay. But you

21:54

know, at least we get the movies,

21:56

and you know, it's better with the movies.

21:58

But yeah,

22:01

and actually I think the finale of the series

22:04

it has its moments too, so

22:06

there's some redeeming things in season

22:08

seven.

22:10

Yeah, and I know Scott's not here to ask, but I'm

22:12

definitely team Jess

22:14

all the way. Oh yeah, adult

22:17

Jess. I love Jess.

22:19

Adult Jess is it?

22:22

Yeah, it is always my daughter to

22:25

my daughter loves Jess. She's like, I

22:27

love Jess and like yet me fee girl. I know.

22:29

Oh my gosh, Amy, where are you guys?

22:31

What?

22:31

What? Where? What state are you in? Where do you guys

22:33

live?

22:34

I'm in California, I'm are

22:36

you?

22:37

Oh my gosh. Then we must stay in touch for

22:40

sure.

22:41

Yeah. I'm actually going to be in La tomorrow because

22:43

we go to church in LA. So we're in It's

22:45

good Friday, so we'll be out there tomorrow.

22:47

Happy Eastern and we'll talk to you soon.

22:50

Thank you so much, and say

22:52

hello to your husband, who sounds like you got

22:54

a good guy.

22:56

He's actually right here, he's been sitting

22:58

listening.

23:01

Good guy. What's his name? I do,

23:04

I'm sorry, what's his name? His

23:06

name is Ricky, Ricky, Ricky.

23:09

Well, happy Easter, have a great weekend,

23:11

and we will talk to you soon. And we'll make sure Scott

23:14

connects with you too.

23:16

Yes, please and keep me in mind for episode nineteen.

23:18

It's my favorite.

23:19

We will talk to you soon, all

23:21

right, thank.

23:22

You, bye, by

23:52

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