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And we're gonna we're gonna get into this.

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This episode is

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going to be discussed amongst

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four of these talking

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heads that you see before you. But

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first I want

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to say, I'm excited to go to

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Keep trying to figure out what song is about Tupelo,

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I'm glad you're telling this all now because it's about

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to get real.

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It's about to get real, folks,

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because I think we have some very engaged

1:34

podcasters, some podcasting

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talent. It's fully engaged. What

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do we think kids? Size?

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First, hang on, let's

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keep the horse in the bar.

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But we need to address that this is the final

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episode. If you're original

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creators, that's kind of

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weird.

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And it's called partings, so yeah,

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always, yeah,

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we're parting, so this is our parting

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gift. Anyway, do you.

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All remember Wait, before we get into it, I have to ask

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you a few questions. Do you remember

2:08

that they were leaving? Like did you guys

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know at this point or did you not find

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out until a little bit later, like in

2:14

the summer.

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You know, that's a good question. I

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don't remember. I

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don't remember if we knew or

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if I knew m.

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Because I wonder how everyone.

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I'm gonna have to jog my memory a little bit, but I

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don't remember distinctively, you.

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Know, knowing already, yeah,

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which I could imagine maybe you didn't because

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it you know, maybe they thought it would get resolved.

2:44

Mmm. Yeah,

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pretty big blow when they didn't get

2:49

the two year deal, which is standard

2:52

with a hit show owner Brothers and

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they just felt snubbed and they

2:56

said bye bye, okay.

2:58

Well beautifully shot at the SOD

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Also, I will say it was shot. It

3:02

looked like a movie to be I

3:04

thought it was.

3:05

I thought it was really it doesn't look

3:07

like a movie.

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I disagree. I thought it looked

3:10

like there was a lot of stars hollow. There

3:13

was a lot of new things

3:16

like angles and things we hadn't

3:18

seen.

3:18

It look like a movie shot on a potato.

3:21

There was there was parts of stars

3:23

hollow we'd never seen before.

3:26

There was a lot of movement. I would say, like

3:28

the cameras.

3:31

It was a rather attractive

3:33

looking episodes. It really did

3:35

poss and different. Well,

3:38

you know it was it was the

3:40

the goodbye. It's like I

3:43

listen before we synopsize.

3:46

I will say this because

3:48

there's been a lot of conjecture, a

3:50

lot of theory as to what

3:52

this last episode really meant. What

3:54

Amy and Dan were thinking, Uh,

3:57

you know, are there what are all the hidden messages in

3:59

this episode? Is it? Is it

4:01

a are they slamming the fan base?

4:03

Like we're going to ruin these characters. We're gonna ruin

4:06

this show. I don't know. I don't know

4:08

so much. You know what, I think, you know what? You

4:10

know what dawned on me watching this episode was I

4:13

think they were saying, we're

4:16

really good writers, we're

4:19

great writers, and

4:21

we're going to leave this here for you. Try

4:25

to match this, because you're not going to be

4:27

able to because our talent

4:29

run runs am uck and we charge

4:31

accordingly. So we're

4:34

going to go on and do great

4:36

things, which they have done. They

4:39

have that confidence, they know how

4:41

good they are, because you can't

4:43

write like that and not know how

4:46

good you are. And I think

4:48

that's really what it was. It's like, we're

4:50

going to give you this treat, bye

4:53

bye, enjoy and uh,

4:55

you're not gonna see anything better than this. And

4:58

that's kind of how I felt about it. I mean, you

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know, the ending, I know is extraordinarily

5:03

controversial.

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Well, we'll talk about it, we'll.

5:05

Talk about it.

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But Danielle, because I don't, I

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don't I have a hot take.

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Okay, No, we're and

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we're gonna you're gonna.

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We're gonna hot take it hot. We're

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gonna all

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right, This is Season six, episode

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twenty two of the finale partings

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air date May ninth, two thousand

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and six, and the synopsis is Logan

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graduates from college and Rory throws

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him an epic goodbye party as he takes

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off for London to work for his dad. Emily

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and Richards set up Christopher Friday night dinner,

5:39

and Luke and Laurlai continue to be distant,

5:42

but as she realizes she needs

5:44

to take matters into her own hands, she

5:47

gives an ultimatum, but the

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outcome lands her in the arms

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of her ex and Towntriubadour's

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Floodstars Hello, hoping to get discovered.

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So we start this off at Suki's.

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We do this whole super quiet route.

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That was a good scene.

6:07

Yeah, really contrasted laurelized

6:10

life in the present with

6:12

what she really wants.

6:15

And funny with Suki. Funny

6:18

the way they did it just zoomed in on

6:20

her face. A lot of face acting

6:23

in this episode with the

6:25

funny bit, because that is exactly how parents

6:27

are. Oh, be quiet, be quiet, be quiet, like

6:30

it's so loud, you know everyone's

6:32

It was really that was a that

6:35

was a ten out of ten for me.

6:37

To start. I was like, hm, it was

6:39

different. It wasn't too long.

6:42

Right, that was good?

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Yeah, it was.

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It was a perfect tone.

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It captured it captured

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the uh you know, it really

6:53

captured laurelized angst.

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Yes, I thought so too.

6:57

Sam and her internal thoughts

6:59

and it contrasted where

7:02

she was in her life and Worsuki.

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Yes, yes, yes, I agree,

7:07

without Laurel having a word,

7:11

Yeah, that is great writing.

7:13

I thought it was interesting, like

7:16

you you said, Scott, like she did the whole

7:18

thing without saying a word and conveyed

7:20

the idea that she was

7:22

sort of in her own little bubble,

7:25

like her own little world, existing

7:29

by herself, but yet still with other

7:31

people. So I thought that

7:34

was that was pretty powerful. And then

7:36

it happened again at the end, if you like,

7:38

in the very last it was the same

7:41

thing.

7:42

Hadn't Anybody didn't realize that till you just said

7:44

it right now? You're right wow,

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by the.

7:48

Way, and my Scotti piece, big mug coffee

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mug, I am having a cup of the you're making

7:53

me crazy and I am in heaven right now,

7:55

so good, and you.

7:56

Actually look pretty happy drinking that. I've

7:58

never had a cup of coffee but oh my

8:00

god, here's yeah,

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that is a really cool note, Suzanne.

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You are right. We'll talk about that as

8:08

we get there. But yeah, I mean

8:10

I think right from the start they

8:13

sucked me in and I was like, oh,

8:15

oh, we.

8:16

Frame, we frame the main

8:18

narrative right there, bang, here

8:20

we go, and then what

8:23

they do within that framework

8:26

was mildly

8:29

entertaining, quite entertaining, stupendously

8:32

entertaining. All right, So now we're in stars Hollow, Taylor,

8:35

can I make one note? Yes please?

8:37

I think I did think was interesting about this

8:39

episode, and I'll say it now. Say

8:43

an episode's forty four minutes, right, forty

8:46

went?

8:46

Is it forty twenty minutes of commercials?

8:50

Okay?

8:51

I think it's still forty two. We'll

8:53

figure it out. Forty I think,

8:55

okay, we'll go with forty because you're the boss. So

8:59

I would say, in this episode of

9:01

meaty content we

9:03

had thirty

9:06

five, there was a lot

9:08

of filler with troubadours, so

9:10

many troubadours. Mind, I didn't.

9:12

But it was so damn funny.

9:15

But it was a lot, right,

9:17

it was a lot. It was a significant amount,

9:21

so that I felt like, here's what I'll

9:23

say there

9:26

wasn't a wasted scene of

9:29

the rest, right, So

9:31

there wasn't a scene that I would toss or a

9:34

wasted moment of

9:36

the thirty five minutes.

9:38

I think what you're trying to say is it was a perfect balance

9:40

of bizarre comedy,

9:42

straight comedy, uh,

9:45

drama, edy and drama.

9:47

Yeah, it was like the amount of Troubadours.

9:49

It was like, I was okay with like three

9:52

scenes, but when it was every single

9:54

scene was it was a latch for

9:57

me. I used too much.

9:58

I liked the Troubadours because they were all

10:01

like actual groups, Like it was Sparks

10:03

and it.

10:03

Was Spark.

10:07

Came on like Sparks, and I didn't

10:09

know what I was right, but there.

10:10

The Paladino was in there. I just

10:12

I thought I liked the Troubadors.

10:14

A return of marylynd Rice cub Oh,

10:16

hysterical.

10:17

Her Volvo song, rhyming Hawaiians

10:20

with crying and everything. I mean, come on, it.

10:22

Was fine, but it was a lot. It was

10:25

a loss, you guys, It

10:27

was a lot.

10:28

It was a lot, but a

10:30

lot.

10:31

But you had to have something happy

10:33

going on to distract you from the rest

10:36

of the insanity.

10:37

Suzanne French for the wind.

10:39

Can I also say sometimes

10:43

I'm wishy washy on her, but I'm gonna say

10:45

Alexis Bludell this

10:49

was probably her best

10:52

acting anyway.

10:55

What do I know. I'm just a random

10:57

person who they gave a microphone to.

10:59

But who thinks that shows are forty four

11:01

minutes?

11:02

I think they are.

11:03

It's unbelievable.

11:04

When you watch on Netflix, it's definitely forty

11:06

three. But I don't know if.

11:07

That's because the starting

11:10

credit, yeah.

11:11

And the flashback, you know, like

11:13

actual episode is forty.

11:18

Ah.

11:19

That's making me crazy, is making me crazy.

11:21

Okay, so continue, Scott,

11:24

Let's get into it all.

11:25

Right's an Now we're in stars Hollow. Taylor is

11:29

walking down the street and he's noticing

11:31

that, you know, Grantlee

11:34

Buffalo is missing, and there's

11:36

another troubadour singing

11:38

and he was doing a pretty darn good

11:40

job. It was a pretty nice little song

11:43

with some nice changes in that song. Because

11:46

I'm a songwriter and I check it out

11:48

and I'm like, yeah, that's a nicely structured

11:50

song with a nice lie.

11:51

My note was a lot of background actors

11:54

got to talk.

11:55

Yeah, okay, So then Taylor, you

11:59

know, so he noticed and he's he's

12:01

he's This

12:04

is our first tease of

12:06

the change in the

12:08

Troubado. I don't think we don't find out here

12:11

that that Grantly Buffalo is going off to

12:13

open for Neil Young.

12:15

Yeah, I think yeah. I started to assume

12:17

it because he said that he was in

12:19

a.

12:19

Large episode, right, it was a prior episode.

12:21

Right.

12:21

In the last episode, we learned he's going

12:23

to right because he bumps into Suki

12:25

and Jackson.

12:26

So I didn't remember that, which is probably

12:28

why I enjoyed all these trouba What's

12:31

going on?

12:32

That was a nice scene for Taylor,

12:35

and then there was a lot of background

12:37

actors talking to him, which normally doesn't

12:39

happen, so I was like, oh, they

12:41

speak well.

12:42

Taylor was so great in this. He made me laugh

12:45

so hard. His shocked and outraged

12:47

reactions are just beautiful. And

12:51

then we have Laura, Rory

12:53

and Logan graduating. Logan's

12:56

graduating, He's got his cane. It's walking

12:58

around like Charlie champ One

13:00

a little bit. I think. I think on the last

13:02

last time we see Logan walking away

13:05

before he goes to the

13:07

car to go to the airport to

13:09

go to London. I think we do a little homage

13:11

to Chaplain. I thought that was a little little

13:14

trampy thing there. But

13:16

anyway, what do we think of the graduation stuff?

13:21

Whoa.

13:22

I thought it was a little racy that they're going

13:24

through the camera and he said naked

13:27

naked, but she has naked photos

13:30

of Logan. I thought, oh wow.

13:34

The nature of their relation definitely was like wowso

13:37

okay. Also, it

13:40

kind of gave me a visual of like do I

13:42

want.

13:43

That or no, I think you do.

13:47

I mean, I love Matt Zugri, well, so

13:49

you like you? So I mean I was like,

13:52

oh, I think.

13:56

Wait a minute, would you like to be Rory for a day or

13:58

a week with

14:00

Logan?

14:01

Would like to be Laurli. But I

14:03

wouldn't mind being Rory

14:06

dating Zukrie

14:08

because.

14:09

He liked Luke better than Logan. Because

14:11

if your Lareli for a death, Oh.

14:13

My gosh, that is a that is

14:15

a question for me.

14:17

You just walk, you write.

14:21

Because at the time, I was crushing

14:23

because it's twenty years ago, so I

14:25

was young. I was right in the middle,

14:27

right because I was thirty and I

14:29

was definitely crushing on both. I

14:31

was like, oh, I love them both all right,

14:35

but yeah, I thought a little bracy, but I like, I

14:37

was very pleased with this. Suzann Danielle

14:40

like, how are you guys feeling?

14:44

I liked Logan and

14:46

Rory so much this episode, and it's annoying

14:49

that they get ripped apart at the end of it in

14:51

my opinion, Like I thought, finally

14:54

they're kind of making sense, you

14:56

know.

14:57

Isn't it interesting how all

15:00

I wanted to hear it don't go from Luke, and

15:02

Logan wanted to hear it don't go from Rory,

15:04

I know, and neither

15:07

of them got their satisfaction.

15:09

Yeah, right, hence the name of

15:11

the episode. Right.

15:14

I don't blame Rory, though

15:16

I don't either. We have we have a lot

15:18

to talk about.

15:28

All right.

15:29

So now we see Sparks.

15:31

All of a sudden, Sparks is

15:34

on the duo, the musical

15:36

duo who did very well in the What the

15:38

Eighties Sparks jamming

15:42

in front of Josie's Market and Taylor

15:44

comes out with hysterically

15:46

funny, exasperated gesticulations.

15:49

Did you notice that Taylor called

15:51

Luke lucas? I wrote that,

15:57

I literally wrote down in my notes. Does he always

15:59

do this? I don't have I recall it.

16:02

It's very fatherly of him

16:05

too. I really like that and it's such

16:07

a subtle thing, but

16:09

yet I love it.

16:11

So so this is when we see Sparks

16:14

and then you know Ted Rooney

16:16

Ryman with Hawaiian and crying

16:19

and lion and just being his

16:21

cool self.

16:22

Man. Is this where we get Mary Lynn

16:25

and her Volvo song?

16:26

Not yet? Okay, that's towards

16:29

the end. Yeah,

16:31

And is that that's an original song she wrote? Because

16:33

it's sure seems like it's very

16:35

funny. It's very funny

16:39

and uh okay. So now we're inside Luke's

16:41

and and the Taylor's outrage continues

16:44

as he comes to a completely disinterested

16:46

Luke on the phone, saying,

16:49

this is the height of my interest. Get away for me. I'm

16:52

not interested in anything you have to say. He goes to Kirk

16:55

and what do

16:57

we think about that? Kirk has some very funny

16:59

lines here.

17:00

Yeah, it was all good.

17:04

That was a laugh out loud moment for me because

17:07

I'm a big Monkeys fan. So he said, who's

17:10

that's one of the monkeys?

17:11

I just write he

17:14

wrote less train to Clark spell Ye, well

17:18

it's not Neil Young. And

17:24

then we have Taylor comparing

17:28

the Troubadours to somebody

17:31

who he thinks is supremely talented.

17:34

Pat Boone was

17:38

like, he says, if you people,

17:40

don't leave right now, because otherwise

17:42

I'll call the authorities and they'll you'll

17:44

be confronted with water hoses and canines.

17:47

So bye bye, right. I

17:50

one of the great tailor, the

17:52

greatest tailor moments perhaps

17:56

in recent memory. Very

17:58

funny and not taking nothing away from Pat Boone.

18:01

He was an amazing artist.

18:03

Was a Debbie Boone Remember you light in my

18:05

life?

18:06

It is he? Is it?

18:07

Pat boons around? Remember when he had his like heavy

18:09

metal day?

18:10

Did he really? He had heavy He went

18:12

into heavy.

18:13

Metal, but like at eighty, like when he was

18:15

old. Like what I remember like

18:17

a leather vest. Oh yeah, that's

18:20

hot Boon doing metal. What was a Pat

18:22

Boone hit? Does anybody remember?

18:25

Uh? I just have a feeling.

18:27

It's it's something like a smile on your

18:29

face.

18:30

Oh my god, let's see if you're right.

18:31

I don't think I'm right.

18:32

This will save us from doing this In pop culture,

18:35

smile Hat Boone hits.

18:36

Love Letters in the Sand, Speedy.

18:39

Gun Zalez, April Love,

18:41

Moody No I'll be home.

18:43

Wow, the smile on your face.

18:45

Pat boon Age, let's do that. Pat

18:47

boone Age,

18:50

whoa eighty nine years old?

18:52

Good for Baton, he's still he's still

18:54

kicking it, then for Pat boon rocking.

18:57

So I also noticed that horse staff

19:00

behind Taylor. I don't know why I'd never noticed

19:02

it so prominently as I did in

19:04

this episode. I was like, wow, that's

19:07

quite a statue.

19:08

Yeah, it was there all the time.

19:12

All right. Now we're outside of Laurelei's.

19:16

House, very shot

19:18

of the mailbox.

19:20

Right and she and she calls Rory,

19:22

and Rory is a post

19:24

graduation and staying away from

19:28

the uh, the Mitchen's

19:30

and the Huntsburgers, letting Logan

19:32

do his thing. What did you guys think of this?

19:36

Here's my note on it, Larelei,

19:39

because I've been in that position

19:42

where your heartbroken and you're having

19:44

to fake it for somebody, And.

19:46

I thought she really expressed

19:49

that so well,

19:52

like the way we saw

19:54

her, not the way she Rory

19:57

was hearing her.

19:57

Although Rory was like, what's going on? She

20:00

seems so heartbroken?

20:03

I was like, are you okay? And she was like yes,

20:06

yeah.

20:09

And then when she hangs up. It's that

20:11

pain that we've all felt when you're like, I

20:14

am in so much pain and I just faked

20:16

it so hard. So I thought

20:19

that was portrayed so

20:21

well in that scene.

20:23

Keep talking, I'm gonna take my shirt off. Ew

20:27

No, there's one.

20:29

What do you mean?

20:29

Oh?

20:32

Just everybody knows. But

20:34

he's got a lot. I work out,

20:40

like a long sleep. But

20:42

we all reacted like that's because

20:44

we're like brother and sister, all of us

20:47

now, and it's just like between

20:50

the butt talk and now the

20:52

best comeback Scott is I work out?

20:57

Damn you.

20:59

So good? Yeah, she's in pain.

21:02

Oh she has been in pain for the last

21:04

few episodes though, and hiding it the

21:06

whole time, you know, So it's

21:08

not the first thing.

21:09

She's just tired.

21:10

She's just so exhausted from all of

21:12

the emotional.

21:13

Which I get she's been doing the

21:16

only part I am not on team lore

21:18

Life or is her weird antics

21:20

of avoiding him with.

21:22

The best I think that's the next one

21:24

of the next scenes. But with the Patty, I'm

21:27

like, why are you evolving?

21:28

Everybody and who hides from

21:30

their significant other Like

21:33

that's freaking weird. I'm

21:35

sorry weird.

21:37

That's what she's going to I'm going to recuse myself

21:39

from this conversation.

21:41

Yeah, I mean you think it's weird too.

21:45

I no, I've never been a

21:47

woman, and I don't know how she's feeling.

21:49

Well, I have been for fifty years.

21:51

I should disqualify myself.

21:53

And I get all of

21:55

it, except for like, I literally would

21:57

never be like tell him I'm

21:59

not here.

22:00

Yeah, and she's done that more than once.

22:02

So the person I've be engaged

22:04

too.

22:05

Yeah, weird.

22:06

It is so weird.

22:07

And I feel like we've been seeing

22:10

this for the last few episodes and it's been building

22:12

up, building up, building up, and finally

22:14

there was a payoff this episode.

22:16

And yeah, it's

22:18

just I hate how she's involving

22:21

everyone in her in

22:23

her business with Luke and

22:26

being very high school about it.

22:29

I guess the nature of the show, But

22:32

that's it stars Hollow.

22:34

It's a small town. Everybody knows everybody's

22:36

business. That's kind of the point of living

22:39

in a place like that because everybody's accountable

22:41

for their behavior and

22:43

that's the charm. And if you want

22:45

to call it a downside fine town,

22:47

but that's part of the charm of living in a small town, everybody

22:50

knows your business.

22:51

Sure, fine on that, but Lorala, I

22:54

I expect better of her and

22:57

the relationship than her hiding

22:59

in Rory's bed room and telling Patty

23:01

to tell him I'm not here, Like

23:04

I.

23:04

Didn't really have that much of a problem with it.

23:07

I think she's just trying to figure

23:09

out what she's going

23:11

to do now because she's still trying to

23:13

recover from the whole birthday party thing,

23:16

and you know, Luke is pushing

23:19

her away again, and she's just I think she just

23:21

wanted She's just trying to create kind of some space

23:23

where she can.

23:24

Think, say I need then

23:26

say I need space about

23:30

his staff meeting, lying about.

23:32

His conversation with her. So now it's

23:34

her turn to not have a conversation with Luke.

23:36

Like we can't, is it.

23:38

We can't say it's okay for him to act that way

23:40

and then say it's not okay for her to act out. But he's

23:43

never he's never been like

23:45

that with it. He's always like been pretty

23:48

vocal, like I'm figuring it.

23:50

Out or this is what happened now.

23:54

He hasn't been has never said,

23:56

he has never told her he has a

23:58

meeting that he doesn't have. And he has

24:01

never said to Caesar, tell

24:03

her I'm not here. He has never

24:06

done that. Okay, but he's definitely avoided

24:08

having a conversation with her. No,

24:10

he's avoided maybe addressing

24:13

a certain topic. He's never avoided

24:16

talking to her. When

24:20

did you see him avoid talking to her or

24:23

running away from her or hiding from her? I

24:25

never saw that.

24:27

He just doesn't. He just doesn't bring anything

24:29

up, and he

24:32

he just kind of avoids

24:34

or he's too busy to talk about it. There is some

24:36

avoid I kind of agree with.

24:38

I mean, she's just manifesting it differently than he

24:40

does. He just avoids it

24:42

by not talking about it, and she avoids it by physically

24:44

removing herself.

24:45

Right, it's weird. He doesn't get he doesn't know.

24:47

He's just he doesn't get super emotional about

24:49

it.

24:50

He just correct. But she's being weird. You

24:53

don't have to agree.

24:54

I'm accusing myself from the discussion.

24:57

Thank you.

24:57

Yeah, I mean, I think, look, everybody

24:59

can be at Luke for

25:02

his part in this, but I

25:05

am just saying I don't like

25:07

that she lied about the staff meeting. I don't

25:10

like that she hid in the bedroom

25:12

and said, tell him I'm not here, Like that's

25:14

mean. Yeah,

25:17

just my opinion. It's mean, and it's it's

25:19

high schooling. It's weird.

25:21

You know, we'll hear from everybody

25:24

whether they agree or not.

25:26

All right, so are we? You

25:28

know? But miss Patty does say the longer the freeze

25:30

out, the better the makeup. But

25:33

don't wait long,

25:35

Laura. And then we have this three

25:38

hundred third husband thing, and I think.

25:41

That's so many.

25:43

I had an opportunity to scratch

25:45

Paul ank As butt for an hour and what glory,

25:48

and that reminded me of my fourth husband

25:50

on the way. I mean, it's like, what is going on with like

25:52

the butts in this episode? Anyway?

25:58

All right, So now we're back to Logan and

26:01

Rory, and

26:04

Logan is being detained at the

26:06

elevator by his father unexpectedly

26:13

inconvenienced by his father's friends

26:15

and their talking business, and Logan

26:17

doesn't want anything to do with it. What did you guys think of this?

26:21

Logan's got a serious bar in that house.

26:24

That was my first note, Like, wow, for a

26:26

twenty one, twenty two year old, he's

26:29

got a serious like bar

26:32

set up.

26:34

One of the richest kids in the country. So, yeah,

26:36

he's gonna part so he's a

26:38

lot of.

26:38

Hard And then I got my

26:41

takeaway from this scene is more once Rory gets

26:43

in the elevator, that's

26:46

where I had thoughts.

26:48

Well, this is where you know, these two

26:50

agree with each other. They found common ground. Yeah,

26:53

she didn't disagree with.

26:54

Him, no, and he finally she

26:57

finally sort of understood. Yeah,

27:00

I'm sure I disagree with him.

27:02

I think she like marched in there being like, I'm going

27:05

to tell him what's what, and I'm

27:07

going to put him in his place. And then

27:09

once he actually started explaining himself,

27:12

I think she realized this is also

27:15

what I'm trying to do with Logan, just differently.

27:18

Yeah.

27:18

Well, I mean the most poignant

27:20

lines for me in that whole scene

27:22

was that he's my son. I want him

27:24

to do well. Yeah, and I

27:26

want him to grow up, and I want him to stop

27:29

flinging himself off out of planes

27:31

or off of cliffs with makeshift

27:33

parachutes. And I want him to get away

27:35

from those idiot friends of his.

27:37

Yeah.

27:38

Yeah, and those are all things she

27:40

wants too.

27:41

How do you think he feels that

27:43

his son was almost killed?

27:45

Right?

27:46

And or almost killed himself

27:48

practically.

27:51

Say like, if you want to go with him,

27:53

go with him. I don't care, do

27:55

you know what I mean? Like, I don't. I think Rory

27:58

finally understood, like this has nothing to do with her.

28:01

Yeah, she can go with it. He doesn't care.

28:03

Whether or not she was Logan

28:05

or not. He would be going to London this

28:08

year.

28:08

Yeah, what's the big problem with

28:10

her going.

28:11

She's not graduated, she has to finish school.

28:13

She can go to London school and she

28:16

she could go for the summer, right right, give

28:19

me a break.

28:20

Yeah, she could totally go

28:22

with him for the summer, filling up.

28:23

To have applications. Rory, let's go get Richard

28:25

and Emily involved. You're at Oxford now, you know, you're

28:27

at Cambridge wherever you want to go. Yeah,

28:30

Queen's College. Let's go ahead.

28:31

But what will that mean for the Rory building

28:34

of astronomy. But anyway,

28:41

Yeah, I mean good again, the

28:43

thirty five minutes of meat every

28:45

single word of it was was meaty.

28:47

That was a good scene.

28:48

Yeah.

28:49

I liked the scene between Mitchem

28:51

and Rory. I just I think it was

28:53

kind of a full circle moment. You see these two

28:55

people like at feuding this whole

28:57

season, and finally there's

29:00

a level of common ground between the two of

29:02

them that she can't deny anymore.

29:05

And I think it's one of the first times we've

29:07

seen Mitcham vulnerable. Yeah,

29:11

he escalated a little bit, he got a little

29:13

heated at the end there, But that's his son.

29:16

That's only had to say, this is my son, and.

29:19

He's just repeating what his father did.

29:23

He loves his son. That he's loving

29:25

his son. It doesn't feel like it, it doesn't sound

29:27

like it, it doesn't look like it. But he cares, cares

29:30

deeply, very

29:34

powerful stuff, very powerful stuff anyway.

29:37

So and

29:39

of course, you know, Rory thinks it's

29:41

all about her. Do you really hate me that much?

29:43

Right? And then she gets a little she gets

29:45

sort of a you know,

29:48

he just basically yeah, he was like, zip

29:51

it, I need you to zip it.

29:58

Just stop.

30:09

Hice. And now we're back in the

30:11

stars.

30:11

Hollow, a very new angle

30:13

of stars hollow. Like I said, with Cliff the

30:15

Postman, I'm not sure I've ever been on.

30:17

The list Postman. I have some

30:20

little behind the scenes here. Cliff the Postman is

30:23

my standing. He was my standing.

30:25

No,

30:27

no, way.

30:28

He got his moment on

30:30

the show.

30:31

Yeah, really cool.

30:33

And he's a really good actor and he's a really good

30:35

guy. And he

30:38

wore he wore platform shoes

30:40

that were about six.

30:41

Inches high because he's shorter than you.

30:43

He's a little short of me. Yeah, not a lot shorter,

30:45

but he you know, he had the war of those platforms

30:47

and he's just you know, hard working dude, good dude.

30:50

Well, he's great. Cliff the Postman and the

30:53

Postman.

30:53

We want to see more of Cliff the Postman.

30:55

We have a question. This might be

30:57

dumb, but maybe somebody listening

31:00

that the same question. What does a stand in? Do they

31:03

when they block the scenes for you?

31:05

No, no, no, we block the scenes

31:07

and then the standings come in and stand there

31:10

while they light the scene.

31:12

The lighting takes a while, so

31:16

you know, Laurel I had her own standing I had my

31:18

own stand in. Rory had her own stand in. So

31:22

yeah, they have to stand there and be still

31:26

while the DP and

31:28

the crew are lighting the scenes.

31:30

Yeah, okay, and they use laurel

31:33

Ized standing was in this episode too, in

31:35

the very beginning when the.

31:37

First people walking, Yeah,

31:40

when when Taylor sees the first

31:42

troubadour and he has a conversation

31:44

with a woman walking the other door, and that was

31:46

laurelized Lauren standing.

31:48

I kind of like that.

31:49

They're like incorporating all the crew.

31:51

Are they trying to get those people their sad cards

31:53

or something? That's what it feels like.

31:55

We'll give them a little lextra, little extra money.

31:57

They get a little Yeah, they get a bump and pay and

31:59

see finally get to put it on their

32:01

resume. It's you know, it's a nice thing.

32:05

All right now, true

32:08

doors everywhere everywhere.

32:10

Yeah, I mean it's just filled with

32:12

singers, hysterical they

32:14

doot.

32:16

I like the crane shot of all there.

32:20

All over the place, you know. And

32:22

here's the interesting thing. I

32:25

just before a couple of

32:27

days ago, I just wrote a

32:29

song about busking.

32:32

Is busking what those guys are doing?

32:34

Yeah, they stand on the street corner in your platform.

32:37

I just finished a song I

32:39

was that's my tribute to buskers.

32:42

And then I see this up in this episode, say,

32:44

oh my god, I love it.

32:46

My one concern was there was so many

32:49

that it would would it sound like a big mess.

32:52

Yes, they weren't quite spread apart enough

32:54

where I'm like, how am I going to hear you with

32:56

your arm?

32:57

I don't think they were concerned with that. I think they were

32:59

just concerned with doing the joke. YEA.

33:04

So now we're at Emily and Richard's and

33:07

uh, the unveiling of

33:09

the of

33:12

the building, the Rory Gilmour astronomy.

33:14

The things covered on the coffee table, and I was,

33:17

okay, I'm.

33:17

Gonna throw a flag here.

33:18

This is.

33:21

I'll throw a flag here, okay, And you

33:23

guys tell me if you agree with me. You

33:26

know, Emily and Richard

33:29

High Culture Gilmore unveil

33:32

the tackiest looking thing you ever see with

33:35

the crazy looking fonts, and yeah,

33:38

that they would approve.

33:40

Of the building was pretty.

33:44

Pick We're horrendous. It really

33:47

looked.

33:48

The sign was bad bad.

33:50

Yeah, they were.

33:51

Saying it was a small settlement to get a building

33:53

made at a university. You're talking about millions

33:56

of.

33:56

Dollars their

33:59

own money. I thought that, sorry

34:01

to be pissed.

34:02

Can you put them in a retirement.

34:06

You figured out they have like a couple hundred million

34:08

and that building is probably what twenty five million.

34:11

They're fine, and it was.

34:12

Going to be open in like six months.

34:14

I'm like that seems fast.

34:16

But I think I think Richard gets the tax

34:18

deduction if he donates the building.

34:21

Yeah, he got plenty though

34:23

they got funny.

34:24

My red flag was that they

34:26

were talking about how they got this very nice settlement.

34:28

But it hasn't even been a week.

34:31

Anybody who has.

34:32

Ever dealt with an insurance company.

34:34

Knows that's true.

34:36

Now practice insurance is not going to pay out

34:38

in like that.

34:39

And plus it's like a little eye

34:42

lasic thing that didn't hurt her

34:44

because she's fine now, right.

34:46

Right, It's not like she's blind

34:48

in one eye and then now she has

34:51

some other issues and then you get a multimillion

34:53

dollar settlement.

34:54

Yeah, that's that's another flag, A couple of flags

34:56

on the same I have.

34:57

One more flag. We haven't quite

35:00

filled out the scene yet, but.

35:02

When Laurelai first walked in, Emily

35:04

asked her.

35:05

If Luke was coming.

35:06

Oh yeah, and she says, how

35:09

are we?

35:10

So she like in

35:12

Emily's head, she was knowing that

35:14

the potentially Luke and Christopher

35:17

were going to be there at the same time.

35:19

Would that be did they think they were going to go

35:21

to blows?

35:24

She was just doing it to look for some cover and

35:26

not be suspected of setting them up.

35:28

I agree.

35:29

I think it was her way of saying, how are we

35:31

no?

35:32

But then like, why would her whole point of setting

35:34

up Christopher this.

35:35

Like, yeah, what you

35:37

think she wanted Luke?

35:42

She wanted she knew La was.

35:44

Going to be pissed about it. And then Emily

35:46

could defend herself by saying, but

35:49

I asked you at the front door if you would bring bring

35:51

Luke. So of course I didn't set this up.

35:54

I don't know, but Christopher knew

35:56

because in the bathroom he says, I thought I

35:58

was coming here to have dinner with you.

35:59

And I'm buddled by why

36:02

Emily is so hell bent on setting up Christopher.

36:05

Ye.

36:05

Yeah, so that's exactly my point. I

36:08

think she jealous.

36:10

Yes, so I

36:13

start crafty. I feel like nobody's that

36:15

crafty Emily.

36:19

Crafty.

36:20

Emily is really crafty, not nice

36:24

level.

36:24

That's that's trade craft

36:27

working there.

36:28

That's in the last episode

36:30

when they were driving around in the giant

36:33

suv and she's trying to think of like all these girls

36:35

to set up Christopher and but you, I

36:37

take on it, it doesn't make sense. Here's my actual

36:40

like Aucham's raisor do you know Okham's

36:42

razor. I'm obsessed with Aucuham's razor. It's

36:45

the way they're getting Christopher

36:48

back in the thing, right, I

36:50

thought, I'm a very razor on it, right,

36:53

like we're trying to be all c I A. Now

36:55

basically she's just talking about Christopher

36:57

all the time because the Rights

37:00

need a reason to get Christopher

37:02

back in the big

37:05

payoff of the.

37:06

End r like use

37:08

Rory for that. That makes more sense.

37:10

Also, I actually think the

37:12

payoff would have been even more

37:15

iconic if we hadn't

37:17

have had so much weird gratuitous

37:19

talk of Christopher and

37:21

we didn't do this date setup that we

37:24

just see other stuff,

37:26

right, and we see this implosion of Luke

37:28

and Lorelai and then all of a sudden she's

37:31

at his door. That would have been more.

37:36

Because you

37:38

don't get you

37:40

don't get a psychologist right right

37:43

the backseat therapy scene, you know what I'm

37:45

saying.

37:45

True, true, true, which was great. Laura Harden was

37:47

awesome.

37:48

In this episode and everything she does.

37:50

Yeah, but anyway, we'll get to that. She's about to ding

37:52

down the doorbell, yeah, first

37:55

doorbell.

37:58

You know, and then Christopher comes in Oh

38:01

boy, Oh my god.

38:03

You know I love Christopher, but I

38:06

literally wanted him

38:08

to walk back out.

38:12

He don't know.

38:14

I was stoked because here's the

38:16

thing, whether you love Christopher or hate

38:18

Christopher, he

38:21

makes this show kind

38:23

of juicy. There's

38:25

a little sung there that I'm like,

38:28

oh, I love that bathroom scene

38:30

with them, the two of them, Like even if you

38:32

hate him and he makes you cringe and you're like I don't

38:34

want them together, it's definitely

38:37

like a great

38:39

TV thing, right,

38:42

like, okay.

38:45

You know, yeah, I don't know.

38:47

I just get a sense of dread whenever he walks

38:49

in.

38:50

I don't know that.

38:53

I'm like a what like a juice?

38:56

Am I going to have the.

38:57

Bathroom scene where he's rubbing her arm?

39:00

Oh my god, I liked it.

39:01

If she didn't, I don't want to jump ahead.

39:05

She reaches out to his arm. I watched

39:07

that three times because I was like, there's matching

39:09

here. I thought they were going to make out in the bathroom anyway.

39:15

I know everybody talks about the

39:17

letters to Scale. I also had my best

39:19

line here. I think it's Laureli and she says,

39:21

I love the portrait idea.

39:23

Because she's like, I

39:26

don't know this. This is

39:28

a perfect scene

39:30

displaying the just outrageous

39:33

talent of Amy and and Dan Palladino.

39:36

Yeah, so many

39:39

great laurelei Quippi. Yes,

39:42

yes, killing it.

39:44

I totally agree killing it.

39:46

I don't know if you guys watched

39:49

Superstore, but the maid was

39:52

in Superstar. Oh no, that's funny, good girl,

39:54

Yeah, funny. The one that she's like, did

39:56

I fire you?

39:59

Dude?

40:00

I got me? Laura Harden good casting,

40:02

mm hmm. Isn't she great

40:05

Lenny? Which I'm like, of course,

40:07

her name's Lenny. Her name's Carolyn

40:09

Bates, Lenny. I love

40:11

that. I'm like, that's so rich.

40:14

It's just so great. All

40:16

right. So now, and the letters, I mean,

40:19

come on, those letters were just it was just like, is

40:22

so weird.

40:22

That they're eating paea. I don't know why.

40:24

I was like, I never would have thought at a Friday

40:27

night dinner they would have.

40:29

Well, they had spaghetti meatballs last week.

40:32

I would have preferred the Spaghettian meatballs.

40:35

A great great scene move move.

40:37

When she says move move to

40:39

Laura LII, I'm like.

40:41

Out of her socket

40:43

to get her.

40:44

Yeah.

40:45

Oh man.

40:48

A lot of great face acting real quick.

40:50

A lot of face acting here, Loralai

40:52

and Christopher making the face like,

40:55

oh my god, this is happening.

40:57

It's really you know what really is. Let's

40:59

just sort of hone in on this Amy.

41:01

It's eyeball acting.

41:03

Eyeball acting, you

41:06

are correct, a lot of eyes,

41:08

sometimes some health, sometimes air.

41:11

But it's like it begins with the thought and it

41:13

comes out of the eyes and its energy

41:16

and you read it and that's what it is. Yeah,

41:18

And the eyeballs are a part of the face, so I

41:21

guess you could broadly define.

41:23

Its face and Emily just pouring it

41:25

on.

41:31

All right. So now we're in stars Hollow

41:33

again at night, and there's more Troubadours

41:35

and there's a there's a mom rocking with her

41:37

two kids and jumping up and down.

41:40

Is this where we saw the police officer?

41:43

This is where we see which

41:46

was absolutely hysterical. There's a bust

41:48

in the background unloading

41:51

more from

41:53

all parts of the United States, absolutely

41:56

hysterical. Offife

41:59

wasanius.

42:01

We get the real troubadour back.

42:04

And then and then Grantlee Buffalo shows

42:06

up and says, you know, tour,

42:08

what are you talking about? I made seven hundred bucks and I never

42:10

got to beat Neil Young Heart of Gold.

42:12

My ass who sang the beaver my

42:14

thumb?

42:15

That was Dan Palladinos

42:19

and the guy on the base I think was

42:21

David Galski. Yeah

42:25

right, right, God

42:28

great, this is just such a you know, this

42:30

episode was so dense that,

42:33

yes, you could not catch

42:35

your breath.

42:36

That is what I'm saying. There was That's why they gave

42:38

us the Troubadours because it was the time first of.

42:41

In a sense, on

42:44

on on multiple levels, this might

42:46

be the best episode I've ever seen.

42:48

I I just don't

42:50

disagree.

42:52

I laughed and laughed throughout from

42:54

beginning to riding quite

42:56

last the end. But it was it was a

42:58

laugh right. My wife came and watched it with me.

43:01

It was also juicy. You guys, like, you

43:03

don't have to love the

43:05

end, but the end is

43:07

a juicy cliffhanger. Yeah,

43:11

yeah, I have,

43:13

so you don't have

43:15

to love it.

43:16

To bever ate my thumb

43:18

that's Dan Palladino. And

43:21

but but what are we missing here?

43:25

Then?

43:25

We I think we're heading back to the bathroom. Right when

43:27

do we go.

43:28

To the room, Well,

43:30

we've got Logan and Finn. Oh

43:33

yeah, escorting a logan

43:36

to his and then Rory opens

43:39

the door and it's a London party and

43:42

she has a British accent.

43:44

And pretty pretty decent.

43:46

Pretty decent, right.

43:47

She real cute, right,

43:51

like the out We

43:53

skipped the bathroom scene, Yeah

43:55

we did. I think the bathroom scene comes first. I think

43:57

you're right.

43:58

What bathroom scene?

44:00

The bar scene where he was touching her.

44:02

You talked about it, You talked about how we

44:07

and we don't want to dwell on that ground.

44:09

I do.

44:11

I've got a lot more to say about that.

44:12

So you just wanted to pass it by because it was

44:14

like it was making you a gag.

44:17

No.

44:17

First of all, I was not gagging, Suzanne.

44:19

Were you gagging? I was gagging

44:22

at the arm rubbing, not at all.

44:24

So they basically she's got to go to the bathroom.

44:26

Christopher bobs in there again.

44:28

Love. I thought it was a sign that they meet in

44:30

there.

44:31

Yeah, Love, And he's like, get me

44:33

out of it, said.

44:34

What spy school did you

44:36

go to?

44:38

So good? Get me out of with another great

44:40

line, I think it says

44:43

I said, yes, that's how all great divorces

44:45

start.

44:47

But I like that.

44:49

Look, they have chemistry,

44:51

guys, you might not like it, but

44:53

they have chemistry.

44:57

They do. They do, and

45:00

how so that's what you feel

45:03

when you see them together. You

45:05

feel the chemistry.

45:07

Yeah, look, it might be an unpopular

45:09

opinion, but.

45:10

If you feel it, you feel it. I mean, I'm just.

45:12

Nobody else in this here show

45:14

feels their chemistry.

45:16

I agree, I feel their chemistry.

45:18

I feel like they have like a friendship

45:21

like friendliness kind of chemistry. I

45:23

don't think they have like a romantic

45:25

kind of chemistry.

45:26

I think you feel that your

45:28

first love that you're not in love with anymore, but

45:30

that still was your first love that you

45:33

had a connection with way back in the day.

45:35

Like I don't know, That's what I see. Like there's

45:37

always going to be a little thing between

45:40

them, whether it's platonic

45:42

at the moment or not.

45:44

Well, it's not. But also they

45:47

have chemistry. I'm not saying, Look,

45:51

Luke, maybe her soulmate.

45:53

True love. Will find out in season

45:55

seven how they end up. Danielle

46:00

Stiffer and Lorlai have chemistry.

46:02

They have a connection. They have a

46:04

thing. Doesn't mean he's the best

46:06

choice for her, but there's a they've got

46:08

a thing. They

46:11

sleep together all the time, you guys, it's not

46:13

like they haven't slept together during the six

46:15

seasons we've known them.

46:17

Yeah, they do.

46:18

So you're talking about Christopher Laurel I sleep together

46:20

all the time.

46:21

Well not all the time, but they have during

46:23

the seasons we've known them.

46:27

They craik me if I'm wrong, But didn't she

46:30

sleep with Christopher like

46:33

right after she ended or was

46:36

ending it with Max Medina.

46:37

Remember they were at the house and I.

46:39

Think they like and they like

46:41

snuck out.

46:41

Yeah they got chemistry,

46:44

guys, they did, they'd.

46:46

Do for you.

46:46

They don't have to like it.

46:48

I not feeling the chemistry between

46:51

those two.

46:51

That's a debate.

46:53

It's just even just like.

46:55

The way they looked at each other at the day Tavil like.

46:57

And they have such a connection and somebody unspoken

47:00

things. You don't have to like it.

47:02

For I'm not seeing

47:04

it. I don't feel it.

47:06

Sorry, Yeah, don't be sorry, I.

47:09

Know I am. I am sorry.

47:11

It's a lot of Amy and Daniel versus

47:14

Scott.

47:18

It's also like, I

47:20

don't dislike Christopher, right,

47:23

you guys do, so, I don't know if that plays

47:26

into your not feeling

47:28

chemistry, And it adds to me feeling

47:31

it. I don't know, but

47:34

I like that bathroom scene. I was like, are they going to

47:36

let you just do it?

47:37

Now?

47:38

Like, I don't know, I'm.

47:39

So like, you see, I don't

47:41

know.

47:41

I thought.

47:44

Once that bathroom scene happened, I

47:46

saw the writing on the wall, I

47:48

realized what was about to happen. And

47:52

it was just I

47:55

texted the group text this morning. I'm like, I have

47:57

never been so annoyed at om

48:00

a Girl's episode in all six

48:02

seasons. I am so annoyed.

48:04

I am not it is annoyed me.

48:07

It doesn't bother me very

48:09

much.

48:10

Do you know it.

48:13

Doesn't. It's like I don't see the chemistry.

48:15

I don't feel the chemistry, but it really doesn't bother

48:17

me too much. Do you know why? Because I've

48:19

got might you're making me crazy

48:21

and I can always

48:23

it's my go to No, here's

48:25

my vacation.

48:28

I know there's something melt.

48:29

You know, it's just making me crazy. Moorwi

48:33

in this episode is just making

48:35

me crazy.

48:37

I don't Yeah, that's a great point. I don't know if she's

48:39

making me crazy.

48:40

Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing. She knows

48:44

Christopher's not it for her. She knows

48:46

that, like she knows that just going back

48:48

to him is easy, that going back to him like that's

48:50

not her person. She knows that whether or not

48:53

they have chemistry or not, she knows that. And

48:55

she's throwing away something that's so awesome.

48:58

Maybe not at this moment, they're going to their

49:00

difficulties, but she's just like, you know what, sleep

49:03

with Christopher and forget

49:05

about Luke for tonight. And it's like,

49:07

why do you self sabotage all

49:10

the.

49:11

Good time ultimatums. I'm

49:13

not a fan.

49:14

No I wanted her to do that because Luke we didn't

49:16

get get his stuff together.

49:19

Like, we're not there yet. So

49:21

do we have dinner first before we go to the elevator?

49:24

Is it dinner first? Because there was some funny

49:27

crap and that we do.

49:29

After after the London party.

49:30

We are at dinner, okay, so we have the

49:33

London party first?

49:34

This is this is uh Laura La

49:36

at her best.

49:38

Ah, Laura,

49:41

I are you having some sort of a breakdown. She's

49:46

so good because she tried to sort of do her

49:48

stick to help Christopher and it's

49:51

just so random and hilarious.

49:53

Is it bad to have normal

49:57

too? English?

50:02

I mean, it's just too good.

50:14

This writing. It's nineteen twenties, it's

50:16

the Algonquin Roundtable, it's the best

50:18

comedy writers. It's Benchley,

50:20

it's Pearlman, it's all these great

50:23

short story writers. It's

50:25

the best of the best. And this is

50:27

a prime example of it, which is, you

50:29

know, Amy and Dan are giving a global

50:32

audience great literature. They're

50:34

giving them the best of the best comedy

50:36

writing that exists.

50:39

I mean, they're crazy like a fox

50:41

by S. J. Pearlman. Tell me you're not going to laugh

50:43

your ass off. It's just little short stories about

50:46

I don't know, fifteen of them in there. It's the funniest

50:48

thing you'll ever read.

50:49

What.

50:49

I don't know any of those fancy authors. You just

50:51

said nothing, but you sound super smart.

50:53

But no, no, no, they were the

50:55

writers of that time and

50:58

beyond that.

51:00

Is when people say they threw this

51:03

season away intentionally,

51:05

I disagree. I just totally disagree.

51:08

I think this episode is I think they went

51:10

out with one of the best episodes

51:13

ever.

51:14

There's no question.

51:17

I have to just say this. The

51:20

movies were not their

51:22

best. I want to redo

51:24

all those movies, but this was

51:27

really good. This is really

51:29

good.

51:30

So this is the two of

51:32

them showing off.

51:33

Like I agree with you.

51:34

Look how good we are. I agree, Look

51:36

at we're just gonna throw it down here, so

51:40

something to remember us by. I agree

51:42

with you because you ain't getting this.

51:44

No, mo, I don't think they

51:46

had anything in the first six

51:48

seasons that was other

51:51

than Vineyard Valentine and maybe

51:53

two other episodes that was like poopy, This

51:56

is like they're awesome, right

51:58

anyway.

52:00

So anyway, a great dinner table

52:02

scene. Uh and

52:05

uh, we just you know, we see

52:08

uh, Lenny as

52:10

a very balanced, very centered,

52:13

grounded, caring, intelligent

52:16

person with a sense of humor and

52:21

probably way out of Christopher's

52:24

league. I kind of way

52:27

way way out of And I don't

52:30

know what she found so appealing

52:32

in Christopher. Did you

52:34

think that there was amy? Did

52:36

you feel chemistry between Linda and I.

52:38

Think he's a cutie pie. No, there's nothing between

52:41

Laura Harden and Christopher

52:45

Lenny, but he is a cutie.

52:47

I could see why if I were Lenny

52:50

and I've just moved to Hartford and I get invited

52:52

over and there's this cutie, I'd be like, oh,

52:54

kuty, all right, this isn't too bad.

52:57

All right. So now we're out in the driveway

53:00

and Lenny hasn't

53:02

left yet, and she apologized Laura I

53:04

that she's blocking her in and they have a conversation.

53:07

That was the only flag I had. Why

53:10

it was a little bit like are you okay?

53:12

Like she didn't really give me enough indication that

53:14

she wasn't okay.

53:16

No, I thought she gave plenty, because if

53:18

you give too much, then it's bad acting. You're

53:21

going to get into like you know, it

53:23

was too much face acting for you.

53:25

Right, But it's a little random that all of a sudden she's

53:27

just willing to have a session in the back.

53:28

Take it from somebody who knows. That was

53:31

very well executed. It was very well

53:33

performed.

53:34

Fine, I believe your

53:37

book. I

53:39

believe it was.

53:40

It was enough, trust me on that, because

53:42

anymore would have been indicati and

53:45

you don't want to it. You

53:47

have to err on the side of caution. Uh

53:50

And that's the mistake a lot of actors

53:52

make, is they just go too far,

53:54

and she never does, which is why she's

53:56

so good. Right. Anyway,

53:59

that was hysterically funny.

54:01

Edit.

54:01

It was one of the best edits, uh

54:05

Gil When we smash

54:07

cut right to her in the back of the seat talking about her

54:09

problem. That's really good. Okay,

54:12

then you know I'm fine, I gonna go

54:14

all right bye God.

54:17

Two huge revelations from

54:20

the back of that car right out the gate. Yeah,

54:22

you love Max. No, I've never

54:24

loved anyone until Luke. Wow,

54:27

I wanted to Christopher.

54:31

Fine, Fine, Fine, what

54:34

how did Christopher get into the scene?

54:36

No, because she she.

54:37

Never loved anyone until Luke,

54:40

including Max, and that would also include

54:42

Christopher.

54:43

Well there were sixteen, you know.

54:45

Yeah.

54:48

Yeah. It was a very poignant

54:50

scene, very revealing, very powerful.

54:53

Right.

54:53

She says she feels crappy all the time. She

54:55

can't take it.

54:57

Yeah.

54:57

Yeah, And I loved the

54:59

advice that Lenny gave her, like

55:01

it was perfect. It's like, you need to either

55:04

live with it the way it is or

55:07

go for what you want and live with that

55:10

consequence. But either way, you're gonna

55:12

have to live with it. So decide what you want to do.

55:14

Yeah, now I'm going.

55:15

To Luke and grow a backbone

55:17

and make your move.

55:19

That didn't seem very psychologist

55:22

to me.

55:22

Because she was giving Yeah, I agree.

55:24

She gave them too much give advice.

55:27

I agree with you she gave a little bit.

55:30

I thought she was overstepping her bounds.

55:32

I agree with you there a little bit, but some

55:35

give more advice than others.

55:36

Yeah, I mean.

55:37

She she left it up to Laurela.

55:40

I mean she was basically she said, you

55:42

don't have him the way that you want

55:44

him, so either ask

55:47

for what you want.

55:48

Or what it is.

55:50

That's her making a value judgment that she's

55:53

has no knowledge of because it's patently

55:56

false.

55:58

And it wasn't a hint to an overstep.

56:00

No, it's not false.

56:01

She's she was absolutely right. Larelai isn't

56:04

getting what she wants out of this relationship

56:06

anymore.

56:08

But Luke isn't going anywhere. He

56:10

loves her. He just needs some time.

56:12

I thought was look, I agree with that.

56:15

Yeah, I mean, well,

56:17

okay, so you think Luke, you

56:19

think there's a chance that

56:21

Luke is going to back out of this marriage.

56:24

I'm not thinking that.

56:25

No, I'm I'm not thinking anything

56:27

about Luke. I'm thinking of what we talked about

56:29

last week, how Laura I has realized

56:33

that she's kind of done with the whole thing. So

56:35

it's it's a question of whether Laurel

56:37

I wants to stay in this, not Luke. Lorelai

56:40

is the one. Luke has shown that

56:44

this is how it is. And

56:46

so now it's up to Laurelai to decide if she

56:48

can live with that or not.

56:50

She's had enough and she's at her last

56:53

final straw and this is it

56:55

exactly.

56:56

So I don't think it's about Luke backing out.

56:58

Now.

56:58

We're talking about Laura backing out because she because

57:00

she.

57:01

Wants to start her life and she wants to have more

57:03

another kid, and she wants to get it moving here

57:06

right right right, And so that's what

57:08

she.

57:09

Was telling her, like either communicate

57:11

that to Luke or continue to live

57:13

with it the way it is, Like,

57:16

like she said, the only person that can make laurel

57:18

I wait is Laurela I. It's

57:21

not up to Luke. It's up to laurel I

57:23

what she's willing to put up with.

57:25

Right.

57:26

This is finally, Like I'm

57:28

going to rate this episode higher than I rated

57:30

the last couple ones, because this

57:33

is what I've been waiting for. I've been waiting

57:35

for Laurel I to finally overcome that inertia.

57:38

And I don't like how she did it. I

57:40

think she completely went about

57:42

it the wrong way. But I'm glad

57:44

that she's not finally, like, you know, lurking

57:46

behind trees and peeking out from.

57:50

And and really that that that back in the

57:52

back seat therapy session

57:55

spawned one of the great lines of laurel

57:59

ies entire library.

58:03

I should have been a monkey Washington Square,

58:05

snappy hat? Give

58:07

me funny?

58:10

Was that?

58:12

Seriously? You know where Washington

58:14

Square is in New York City's down by lay. All

58:18

right, now we're back with Rory

58:20

and Logan.

58:20

I love this scene.

58:22

Thanks, I did too, because

58:25

it was everything to

58:27

find where they were in their relationship.

58:30

Tell me not to go.

58:32

And they have chemistry.

58:34

They do, boy do they have chemistry.

58:37

And really good performances, just

58:39

totally believable. She looked

58:41

so cute. He's so cute.

58:44

They he's a master, isn't He's?

58:46

So he's great. I think he's a really

58:48

good actor.

58:49

He's great, isn't he ye?

58:52

Because he's not just a one trick pony. Like he

58:54

went on to do Good Good Wife

58:58

and The Resident and he's really good

59:00

in both. And he was the lead in

59:02

The Resident and like deservedly

59:06

so, like he was he's that

59:09

guy's stud.

59:11

He's really Yeah.

59:13

Yeah, and you know he's on like American horror

59:15

story. Now. I think we talked about that.

59:16

Yes, watched it.

59:18

I would he creeps me out, but I'd

59:20

watch it for him. But it's a little too scary.

59:24

Well that was a heartbreaking scene.

59:26

Oh it really was.

59:28

Tell me to go.

59:30

That was painful. And the goodbye, Oh

59:33

my god, we haven't gotten that.

59:34

I'm sorry, we're not there yet, We're not there, so painful.

59:39

Yeah, I love that scene. All right now.

59:40

I felt like the one difference between

59:43

them too versus Luke and Loralai is

59:45

between Logan and Rory, they

59:47

actually have decent communications.

59:51

You're right, Like they actually communicate

59:54

like well with each other.

59:56

Yeah. I agree.

59:57

That's a good point, especially

1:00:00

one. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:00:04

and that is the key, as we all know, to

1:00:06

successful relationships. All

1:00:09

right. Now, we're back at Luke's and here

1:00:11

we come with the big It starts

1:00:13

off very funny because Ted Rooney doesn't want

1:00:16

to pay for a full cup of coffee

1:00:18

when he's only had a half a cup of coffee

1:00:20

that he drank.

1:00:21

This is a scene.

1:00:25

And then Larelai comes in all hell, fire

1:00:27

and brimstone, and Luke's

1:00:30

got to take it outside. He's

1:00:33

Uh, anyway, let's

1:00:36

I think we've discussed this, but I

1:00:38

think we're going to have a formal discussion.

1:00:40

Of here's my question for you, guys.

1:00:42

Her speech, she kind of gives a speech.

1:00:45

Is she right?

1:00:48

I think she was. Let me offer

1:00:52

my outsider's opinion here,

1:00:56

even though I was in the scene. It was an insider's

1:00:58

opinion. I

1:01:00

think it was. It

1:01:04

got heated real fast, almost

1:01:07

to the point of it being shrill. Oh

1:01:09

so, how how is a man supposed to respond

1:01:11

to that? Just buckle down

1:01:13

and say yes? So, I don't. I don't know. I'm

1:01:16

not you know, I didn't write it. And

1:01:21

have you ever been in a situation like this in your real life?

1:01:23

Guys, it's a question for you.

1:01:26

Have you ever done this to a guy I wanted

1:01:28

to do this to? I don't.

1:01:30

I'm not an ultimatums I don't. I don't like

1:01:32

ultimatums either.

1:01:33

I think it was the wrong approach. I

1:01:36

don't blame her. I

1:01:39

think I think the two of them needed a

1:01:41

confrontation to like snap

1:01:44

Luke out of it and make him realize

1:01:46

that what he's been

1:01:48

doing to Lorelai is not in

1:01:51

her best interest or really in anyone's best

1:01:53

interest.

1:01:54

But she should have known.

1:01:55

I mean, Luke very easily

1:01:58

gets knocked off his axis, and

1:02:00

she should have known better than to come

1:02:02

at him like that, guns blazing,

1:02:05

with an ultimatum,

1:02:09

and she but I

1:02:11

I mean, I can kind of see it because she was very worked

1:02:13

up. She was, you know, practically hysterical

1:02:15

at that point. She's just she's just

1:02:17

had enough.

1:02:18

And I think he should have grabbed

1:02:20

her. I think he should have grabbed

1:02:22

her and said don't go,

1:02:25

don't walk away, like we

1:02:28

are gonna work this out,

1:02:31

hang on, and he sort of said, I'm

1:02:33

trying to think here, Like I think

1:02:35

he should have not let her walk away.

1:02:37

Yeah, no one, no one handled that

1:02:39

situation the right way, like Laura.

1:02:42

I should have gone in guns a blazing, guns

1:02:44

a blazing, like you said, Suzanne. But also Luke

1:02:47

shouldn't have just let her walk away, like

1:02:49

he should have said, hey, I hear you,

1:02:52

I know where you're coming from. Let's

1:02:54

get a let's put a date on the calendar

1:02:56

tomorrow, you know, or something

1:03:00

had instead of just letting her walk away, that.

1:03:01

Thing escalated pretty quickly and

1:03:03

it got she got she was screaming at him, and

1:03:06

it gets to that point. Oh

1:03:09

sure, it was screaming. It was anger. She

1:03:11

got angry, she went to another level

1:03:14

of anger.

1:03:14

I don't think so she was set

1:03:17

anger.

1:03:18

I think it's a girl upset, just

1:03:20

so.

1:03:21

Emotional, Okay, but I don't

1:03:24

I don't know that. You know,

1:03:26

he was so taken aback by that in

1:03:28

the moment and so caught off guard by

1:03:30

that anger because

1:03:33

we have we seen her ever talk

1:03:35

to him that way.

1:03:37

Not quite. I

1:03:40

said.

1:03:40

What he was thinking was, you

1:03:42

know, hey, you

1:03:44

know you don't listen, rich

1:03:46

girl, you don't talk to me this way, you

1:03:49

know. I think his back went up and it was like,

1:03:51

whoa, this is over the top, and

1:03:53

I'm not having this. Nobody

1:03:55

nobody talks him, nobody gives me orders,

1:03:58

and I've got a situation and

1:04:00

now I've got the woman I love just screaming

1:04:02

in my face. So I

1:04:05

don't know that there's a possibility that you can

1:04:07

come over and just sort of grab somebody

1:04:09

and say, hey, don't go. You

1:04:11

know, he's not that guy.

1:04:14

I picked up more confusion

1:04:17

from him, like why is she so

1:04:20

hysterical? Like what is going on right

1:04:22

now? And

1:04:25

then I think I think it kind of at the end of the conversation.

1:04:27

He did get a little bit defensive, but I didn't

1:04:29

really pick up on anger from him. I think he was

1:04:31

confused to see. Yeah, he was where is all

1:04:33

this coming from? Because he hasn't been

1:04:35

seeing it this whole time. So even though it's

1:04:38

been a slow build for those

1:04:40

of us that have seen what Laurel I was going through,

1:04:42

he hasn't seen that, and so to him,

1:04:44

the whole thing was a surprise.

1:04:46

Right, So I was referring to the anger

1:04:48

coming out of her toward him, which

1:04:51

put it back on his heels. Anyway,

1:04:53

I guess in those things, nobody wins, do they.

1:05:05

Now we we get these

1:05:07

nice sweeping shots of we

1:05:09

get we get Sam Phillips. There

1:05:11

she is singing and

1:05:13

playing the guitar, and that's

1:05:16

Sam Phillips right there. And she's just

1:05:18

such a great uh performer.

1:05:22

I mean, now I want to go see her live

1:05:24

somewhere, you know, because she was such

1:05:27

a great vibe and such a great voice

1:05:29

and such a such great melodies and

1:05:32

these songs. You know,

1:05:34

that's a real artist there, all right. So now

1:05:37

we're now

1:05:40

we go to apartment four and

1:05:43

a knock on the door of apartment four

1:05:46

and who was behind door number

1:05:48

four. But are

1:05:51

not a troubadour, but

1:05:54

not a humidor, but

1:05:56

a Christopher, thank you

1:05:58

very much?

1:06:00

And did everybody expect that? Like, Danielle,

1:06:03

is that what you like? When the knock

1:06:05

knock? Did you know that that was?

1:06:07

I knew it. I knew this was I literally

1:06:09

knew this was happening the second the bathroom

1:06:11

scene happened. Yeah,

1:06:13

And it's just annoying.

1:06:17

And I wasn't annoyed.

1:06:19

I'm so annoyed. It's just so captain obvious.

1:06:22

I don't know.

1:06:23

I just wish like

1:06:26

this might be a very unpopular opinion, but

1:06:29

I'm just for me. I just felt like

1:06:31

I was watching the same thing over and over and over again,

1:06:33

like it's the fifth time I've seen this scene.

1:06:36

But I was like, why aren't Why wouldn't

1:06:38

like they make Luke hook up with Anna or something

1:06:40

that would have been more entertaining for me or

1:06:43

more shock value for me, But

1:06:46

because it's Christopher was.

1:06:49

Again called Gilmore girls.

1:06:52

It's just I don't know, I

1:06:55

was really annoyed.

1:06:57

I thought I kind of tracked and I wasn't

1:07:00

that mad about it. But that's going to be an unpopular

1:07:02

opinion.

1:07:03

Was it soapy.

1:07:04

It was soapy. Yeah, it was soapy,

1:07:07

and I love that and

1:07:10

ninety nine percent of people will hate that. I

1:07:14

love that stuff. So

1:07:16

that's probably why I was like.

1:07:18

Oh, I did too, But I

1:07:20

didn't even think it was soapy. I just

1:07:23

thought it was captain obvious, the same,

1:07:25

same, same, Do we have a different storyline?

1:07:28

That's the definition of soapie is captain?

1:07:31

Yeah?

1:07:31

I guess yes, that's pretty.

1:07:34

Coming a mile away. Yeah,

1:07:38

well, anyway, so there you go, and

1:07:41

she goes on and.

1:07:42

We don't know yet what maybe they're

1:07:45

just going to talk. We don't know yet.

1:07:46

Yeah, we don't know. We know sophy,

1:07:49

so we know.

1:07:50

Well because at first she just goes in. Yeah,

1:07:53

we don't get there's okay.

1:07:56

I thought we were because it was soapy.

1:07:58

We know what's going to happen.

1:07:59

First we here, we get this sad goodbye

1:08:01

that was really sad.

1:08:03

Between using will happen.

1:08:06

It's interesting how the Rory logan doesn't feel

1:08:08

soapy. It feels drama,

1:08:11

but not soapy. That really felt

1:08:14

so genuine.

1:08:15

And and uh uh

1:08:18

you want to talk about face acting here?

1:08:21

Yeah, Hey, Matt Zukri when

1:08:23

that elevator door, he's not

1:08:25

looking at her.

1:08:26

Oh my goodness.

1:08:28

I've never seen a kid more devastated

1:08:30

in my life. And it

1:08:32

was like, you didn't tell me

1:08:35

not to go?

1:08:37

Was it?

1:08:37

If a distracted by Rory's bangs?

1:08:39

Through this, I was still okay past

1:08:41

line Hi to William

1:08:44

and Harry for me and he says I love you,

1:08:46

and she goes, that's a lot better than.

1:08:47

Saying yeah

1:08:50

no. Her bangs like sometimes it would be fully

1:08:52

across her phase and then other scene like

1:08:55

other takes were across her face. I don't

1:08:57

know this ban consist

1:09:00

in.

1:09:00

The bangs were I kind of liked it. She

1:09:03

look cute. The bangs were fine. The

1:09:06

car service for the year and she's

1:09:08

got the the apartment

1:09:10

for the year and car service for another month, and like

1:09:13

the whole thing is just like she.

1:09:15

Had two chances to stop him. Not

1:09:18

just because I understand

1:09:20

that, but he's putting out.

1:09:22

He just keeps offering like hey,

1:09:25

because he says to her, I don't want you to

1:09:27

come with me to the airport because if you come, I won't

1:09:29

get on the plane. Yeah that

1:09:31

was so her move was to go.

1:09:34

She can't be that he doesn't want

1:09:36

to be the one to stop him from like growing

1:09:39

up.

1:09:40

Yeah, or the reason, you

1:09:43

know, like you make the decision on your own

1:09:45

that you want to stay here for me.

1:09:46

I don't.

1:09:47

I don't want to make that don't on her.

1:09:49

Yeah,

1:09:51

and she understood what Mitchen was saying,

1:09:53

so it's like.

1:09:56

He still wanted to hear it. We didn't, but we got

1:09:58

some great face acting.

1:10:00

I think if the scene with Mitcham didn't happen, that

1:10:02

Rory would have tried or

1:10:05

would have said stay, please stay, Yeah,

1:10:07

I.

1:10:07

Doe possibly yeah,

1:10:10

yeah, I do yeah.

1:10:13

And now the finale, The

1:10:16

last scene that the Palladinos wrote

1:10:21

during the run of the

1:10:23

original initial run of the show was

1:10:26

lorele I in bed with no

1:10:29

clothes on, and then Gigi

1:10:31

Rungeon says, Daddy, Daddy, is

1:10:33

she sick? And

1:10:35

I think she's sick in many

1:10:38

different ways, with grief, maybe

1:10:40

with she's

1:10:42

a little I

1:10:44

don't know, she's confused. Yeah,

1:10:47

she's she's confused.

1:10:49

So the show begins with her thinking

1:10:52

about her life and what she wants, and the show

1:10:54

ends with her thinking about what she has just

1:10:56

done to her life. Is

1:10:59

she in a more more empowered place

1:11:02

at the end of the show than she was at the beginning of the show.

1:11:04

What's your opinion. Yeah,

1:11:08

she's in a worse.

1:11:08

Spot, I do, but I

1:11:11

like a complicated spot for sure.

1:11:14

She like started down

1:11:16

here, then she went up and finally

1:11:19

voiced her feelings, and then now

1:11:21

she just took a

1:11:23

big downward spiral.

1:11:25

Yeah, I think she.

1:11:28

I think it was just really impulsive and

1:11:30

she just maybe subconsciously

1:11:32

felt like she just needed to

1:11:35

really drive that final nail

1:11:37

into the car and this was going

1:11:39

to be what does it?

1:11:40

I also think when she decided to go to Christopher's

1:11:42

house, she decided that she was going to sleep with him.

1:11:44

I don't think she was there just to like get,

1:11:48

you know, like a friend's opinion

1:11:50

on her situation. She went there knowing

1:11:53

that they were going to sleep together. I think

1:11:55

so.

1:11:56

I think it was a power thing. I think she

1:11:58

wanted to feel her power.

1:12:00

Yeah, and somebody that just loves her.

1:12:02

I wish that Christopher had

1:12:05

not gone along with it, like

1:12:08

I wish.

1:12:08

Oh, come on, though, he's got an unrealistic

1:12:12

well I I

1:12:15

think maybe maybe it is unrealistic.

1:12:18

Character for a character that's spineless.

1:12:20

Yeah, he's going to do the right thing.

1:12:22

No, Yeah, he couldn't

1:12:26

be happier.

1:12:26

That's his character. That's his function.

1:12:28

I don't know. I kind of agree with you, Susane, because

1:12:30

the last episode he did do like

1:12:33

he did do good by her,

1:12:36

you know.

1:12:37

Right, like he's taken the high road

1:12:39

for and I feel

1:12:41

like I have kind of the same feeling about

1:12:44

Rory and Logan stealing the yacht, like

1:12:47

I wish wrote Logan.

1:12:50

Stop it, right, that's yeah, I get it.

1:12:54

Okay, it's less, it's

1:12:56

less soapy.

1:12:57

Right, unrealistic, But I get

1:12:59

where your head's at. I

1:13:01

just I just wish he.

1:13:04

Instead of like, you know,

1:13:06

jumping right into bed with her, he could

1:13:08

have been more of a friend and let her vent

1:13:11

or whatever.

1:13:12

But he loves her. He loves

1:13:14

her.

1:13:14

That's risky going into season seven

1:13:17

because you don't want to make him too.

1:13:19

Likable, right, No, I'm with you, Susan.

1:13:22

But I understand what you're saying. But if

1:13:25

he comes around full circle and he turns out

1:13:27

to be hey, he's a really great guy in his situation, and

1:13:30

I don't know if they want that, you know, Yeah,

1:13:32

he has a function as a character.

1:13:34

Here's the unpopular opinion. Aside

1:13:36

from the fact that I do like Christopher. Look, I

1:13:38

like Christopher whatever, I

1:13:41

like the ending. I like that you

1:13:44

do this. It's a cliffhanger. It's like, oh

1:13:46

my god, it's it's

1:13:49

blowing everything up. It's like, what is

1:13:51

that happening?

1:13:52

Couldn't have not had a more different reaction.

1:13:56

I mean, it was not a cliffhanger to me. I

1:13:58

literally saw him calling him all away. I'm

1:14:00

like, Okay, I'm waiting for the scene. I'm waiting for the scene

1:14:02

and waiting for the scene.

1:14:03

It came.

1:14:04

I was annoyed, and then I

1:14:07

just I was just annoyed. I

1:14:09

was in such a bad mood.

1:14:11

After I was

1:14:13

like, yeah,

1:14:16

I'm like stoked for season seven.

1:14:19

Really I'm not. I just was like, God,

1:14:22

I just want I wanted I wanted

1:14:25

it to be different. I didn't want it to be a Christopher

1:14:28

payoff.

1:14:29

I didn't what do you want? Max?

1:14:32

Oh?

1:14:33

I would have loved Max. That would have been

1:14:35

amazing. I thought that would that would

1:14:37

have been really fun.

1:14:38

Jason, Jason,

1:14:46

Because this is just getting us to see, like,

1:14:48

right, if Luke would have done what I wanted him to do, it

1:14:51

would have been a to that could have just been

1:14:53

a whole different Season seven. Do you know what I'm

1:14:55

saying. It's like, right, but as a viewer,

1:14:57

I'm tired of being dissatisfied.

1:15:00

Right, I want to get's an interesting payoff,

1:15:03

that is an interesting point

1:15:05

and.

1:15:06

Joy that is.

1:15:08

Six years of chronic dissatisfaction

1:15:10

for the fans.

1:15:11

I am not I'm enjoying

1:15:13

the point, Yeah it is, but I'm enjoying

1:15:15

the curveball. I'm like, Okay, it's not a

1:15:18

curveball.

1:15:20

It's a pizza pie in your face

1:15:23

again again.

1:15:25

While you're trying to clean off the other sauce

1:15:27

from your face, You're like, again, I haven't.

1:15:30

Again, Jesus

1:15:33

again. This is what I get

1:15:36

for being a Gilmore girl.

1:15:37

I mean, here's my thing. You guys

1:15:40

love Amy and Dan, right, you love

1:15:42

them. You're like, this is a perfect episode.

1:15:44

Then I trust they know what they were

1:15:46

doing and I liked it, So

1:15:49

I think they did it. I think. I'm

1:15:51

like, I'm in m they

1:15:54

know what they're doing.

1:15:57

It. I don't think the fans are too happy with this

1:15:59

episode.

1:16:00

And with a scene well we'll see.

1:16:02

Well, I mean, I don't think they were

1:16:04

too happy with it.

1:16:06

I was.

1:16:07

I didn't like it.

1:16:07

I was at the time too. I was at the time.

1:16:10

At this point, they're probably saying, you know

1:16:12

and all. I sound like a broken record, but it's

1:16:14

like, where the hell's the wedding?

1:16:16

Yeah, but I don't we're not ready for it yet.

1:16:18

No, the fans are more than ready

1:16:21

for it. They were ready for it.

1:16:22

See I do like a runaway bride wedding,

1:16:24

Like do something with that something.

1:16:27

There's a wedding, wedding.

1:16:28

Be positive, life affirming

1:16:30

guys.

1:16:31

Say they ran off and a looped, Say they ran off

1:16:33

and a loaped? What is season seven?

1:16:35

Then?

1:16:35

Just them being happy?

1:16:37

How about Luke shows up in

1:16:39

April hating Laura instead

1:16:42

of blinking Christopher. Why doesn't Luke

1:16:44

show up in an elvis suit and said, hey lady, or

1:16:47

I'm taking you to Nashville. I'm gonna marry you,

1:16:49

you know, and have a big, cheesy wedding.

1:16:51

Or why not?

1:16:52

There's Yeah, there's them being

1:16:55

happy. It's okay

1:16:57

them being happy

1:16:59

because there was always you know, a fight

1:17:01

with Rory. Yeah, we

1:17:05

never got to enjoy them being a happy

1:17:07

couple.

1:17:07

Yeah, if Laura and Luke ended up together,

1:17:10

there's so many outlying factors

1:17:13

that can screw things up. April

1:17:15

and uh, Max Medina Christopher,

1:17:18

like you can't have Christopher come

1:17:20

back and try to sleep with Laurlai while

1:17:22

she's married to Luke.

1:17:23

Like you could have all that happening.

1:17:26

But it's like this this nothing

1:17:30

can stop this love. Nothing right.

1:17:33

That's why it should have been Oh well it wasn't.

1:17:37

Hi, Tarna has just

1:17:40

joined Tara in our last two minutes. Would

1:17:42

you like to give your thoughts on this episode?

1:17:45

Yeah, I skipped this episode usually,

1:17:47

so that's not my favorite.

1:17:49

It's it's

1:17:52

a rough one to watch. Oh,

1:17:55

such a I disagree.

1:17:57

Chronic dissatisfaction from the fan base

1:17:59

because they want Lucan at Elvis suit dragging

1:18:01

her off to I feel like, I

1:18:03

mean, I feel for a Vegas for a

1:18:06

quick wedding. I don't know what was said, but I

1:18:08

don't want to drag it on.

1:18:08

But for me, I feel like the

1:18:11

worst part was that she went to Christopher.

1:18:13

I think if they broke off the wedding and the like

1:18:15

and that was it, I wouldn't have been as

1:18:17

upset as if if she didn't.

1:18:19

Go to Christopher.

1:18:20

That's the part that bothered me.

1:18:24

Wow, But now I can.

1:18:26

Go back and listen to what you guys said. Yeah, that's

1:18:30

a good point.

1:18:31

Though, it'll be a good point if they if

1:18:34

Luke and Laurel I had just broken up, that

1:18:37

that would be one thing, but her actually going to Christopher

1:18:39

like takes it to the next thing.

1:18:41

Yeah, like I was level no,

1:18:44

next level of torture, dumb.

1:18:47

I'm making a TV show here too, where I'm like

1:18:50

the door.

1:18:52

And it's like turning into like

1:18:54

Dante's Inferno. It's like the

1:18:57

level.

1:18:57

I want to be honest. I'm gonna be honest.

1:19:00

If I was watching this for

1:19:02

the first you know why, I am watching it for the first

1:19:04

time. But like back then, I wouldn't

1:19:06

have come back for the next season. I don't think.

1:19:09

Well, interestingly, some people.

1:19:11

Did it goes.

1:19:12

That's interesting that you say that because it

1:19:15

had a big ratings drop off in season seven.

1:19:18

Yeah, I would have stopped. I would have been like,

1:19:20

this is the same thing. I'm done. I'm over.

1:19:22

I think if you like like, I like Christopher,

1:19:24

so I like Amy.

1:19:25

I like Christopher, and I'm still annoyed

1:19:28

like God from his from

1:19:30

a character's perspective, I enjoy him

1:19:32

on my TV screen. All

1:19:35

Right, I did not like that.

1:19:36

What do we what are we giving this episode?

1:19:38

Gang?

1:19:38

We got to wrap this up?

1:19:39

We get who goes first? I'll

1:19:41

do it. I'll go first this time.

1:19:43

Go ahead, what's you're measuring? Uh?

1:19:45

What's your measuring sticks are?

1:19:48

Give?

1:19:48

Give the rating and then the measuring stick.

1:19:50

Oh.

1:19:50

I thought we give the measuring stick first.

1:19:52

You give it second.

1:19:53

I'm giving it.

1:19:55

Ten volvos, ten volvos.

1:19:58

Marilynd Rice cub song about a Volvo.

1:20:01

Oh okay, uh,

1:20:04

Danielle.

1:20:05

I'm going to give it

1:20:10

six point five.

1:20:12

Wow.

1:20:13

I'm going to give it six point five plate of

1:20:16

Paea.

1:20:19

Wow.

1:20:21

It's my lowest I've ever rated an episode.

1:20:25

I'm going to give it six point

1:20:28

seven British

1:20:30

flags.

1:20:32

Wow.

1:20:33

Wow. Uh, Susan,

1:20:35

I.

1:20:36

Went up a little bit on my ratings.

1:20:38

Just like I said before, I was happy that

1:20:40

that Lurla I finally got

1:20:43

out.

1:20:43

Of her rut. So I give

1:20:45

it eight.

1:20:46

Uh Rory Gilmore Astronomy buildings

1:20:53

to scale.

1:20:56

Uh, I'm going to rate

1:20:58

it

1:21:00

two ways. Up

1:21:03

until the last scene,

1:21:06

I'm giving it a ten. But

1:21:09

that last scene I'm giving a zero.

1:21:13

Oh okay, so

1:21:15

that that's an average. So I'm gonna it's

1:21:17

gonna take it down to I mean, for

1:21:21

me, it's drifting around. It was such an

1:21:23

enjoyable episode to watch, though,

1:21:26

and it was so disappointing at the end. I

1:21:28

agree, So I'm gonna

1:21:30

be down there. Can

1:21:32

one scene effect a score that much.

1:21:34

Now, you

1:21:37

know?

1:21:37

Just such a brilliant episode, just such a

1:21:39

brilliant episode. And then that last scene.

1:21:42

Yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna be down there in the sixes

1:21:44

with you guys. And

1:21:46

I wanted to give it a ten. For

1:21:48

me, it was a ten to ten all the way, ten

1:21:51

plus, and then that last scene.

1:21:53

I was just like, oh boy, so

1:21:56

I'm gonna give it a six point seven three

1:21:58

seven already bed

1:22:00

sheets?

1:22:04

Oh my god?

1:22:06

Inappropriate ending to disappointing

1:22:09

season six.

1:22:11

I just don't.

1:22:12

I'm not, but it's

1:22:15

such some of the best writing was

1:22:17

in season six, some of the great jokes, some of

1:22:19

the great performances in season six.

1:22:22

Yeah, why do we give season six? Overall? Don't give

1:22:25

it yet, But I think over the next

1:22:27

you know a little

1:22:29

bit here, we're going to do some special things for everybody

1:22:31

before we start season seven. I want to know what

1:22:33

everybody's take was on season

1:22:35

six.

1:22:36

But not yet, Yeah, not yet. All

1:22:38

right, So that's going to wrap her up, folks.

1:22:41

Season six. We only have one season

1:22:44

one? What was your favorite

1:22:46

line, did anybody have I gave mine during.

1:22:48

Yeah, we kind of game during Susanne.

1:22:51

Mine was at Richard

1:22:54

and Emily's. When Laurel

1:22:56

I said, it's the astronomy building. You have to

1:22:58

be able to see it from outer space.

1:23:00

Danielle, did you have one?

1:23:02

Yeah? Mine was three. Sorry

1:23:04

I have to say all three, but it's between one

1:23:06

and then I can't. It's between Patty and Luke.

1:23:09

Patty goes, there's nothing

1:23:11

sexier than a man in tights. Luke says, stop

1:23:13

imagine me imagining me and tights

1:23:15

Patty, and she goes, it's a free country,

1:23:17

Honey.

1:23:21

I don't have one on me, but I

1:23:23

have one that we didn't do yet, which I'm sure we'll break down

1:23:25

in pop culture. But I won't

1:23:28

be ignored Dan because for those people

1:23:30

that got it, I had to google that.

1:23:32

Oh I have a backup

1:23:34

if you want it.

1:23:35

Oh, sure, I'll take your back up.

1:23:36

My backup was Taylor saying there's

1:23:39

no jumping in the town square.

1:23:44

Remember one, Susanne, what

1:23:46

what was your top one? I missed it?

1:23:48

Oh the when Laurel I said it's about

1:23:50

the big lettering, it's the astronomy.

1:23:52

Oh yeah, sorry from literally

1:23:54

just said that two seconds ago. Welcome to

1:23:56

the show, Amy.

1:23:58

I don't have a favorite line. The entire

1:24:01

episode of until the last scene is my favorite line.

1:24:03

There were twenty favorite lines. Best

1:24:06

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1:24:08

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1:24:10

the cards and letters coming and stay

1:24:12

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1:24:13

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