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gonna be in Tupelo, Mississippi

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like a good country song home

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know who that is. He's just an obscure

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Comic Con, and then I'm

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heading over to Nashville to write some songs.

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Oh that's cool.

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Yeah, so maybe

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I'll see everybody in Nashville. It

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sounds like, you know, there's we're gonna

1:03

throw down in the Who's Gal.

1:05

Yeah.

1:05

I don't know if I should just do it now or if we should

1:07

wait till we get to it. But I'll wait.

1:09

Let's do the synopsis and then you can

1:12

open up the ball on us, okay, because

1:14

I'm feeling feisty. I'm

1:16

ready to go at it. Yeah.

1:17

I don't know if you and I will agree or not.

1:19

I have a feeling we're not going to agree

1:22

and this is not a setup. Ladies

1:25

and gentlemen anyway,

1:28

Super Cool Party People, Episode

1:30

twenty. We're almost done, Season six,

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gag Mine Travid cruse Is and

1:35

French Danielle Romo, Taras sued

1:37

Amy Sugarman. Referee is

1:40

Miles Lane. And here

1:42

we are at Caesar's Palace. Let's

1:46

get.

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I don't know if we're all going to agree or disagree. I actually

1:50

we don't know that ahead of time.

1:52

Yeah, no, we do not.

1:54

I just thought about this episode for days.

1:57

Everybody is so busy

1:59

this Schedgele's so cramped. We don't have

2:01

the time to get together and debate this before.

2:03

Right, we don't do a pre debate.

2:05

We we don't know we do.

2:06

That's what makes this more exciting.

2:09

Egs, the raw, authentic

2:11

emotions come out.

2:12

sEH, It's like it's like it's

2:14

like professional wrestling with microphones.

2:17

Who's going to do the synopsisizations?

2:20

I think it's Danielle, right, I.

2:22

Think I'll

2:24

do it. Ka guys, all right,

2:27

this is season six, episode twenty, Super

2:29

Cool Party People. Air date April

2:31

twenty fifth, two thousand and six. Rory

2:33

rushes to be with Logan at the hospital

2:35

after he is seriously injured during a

2:37

stunt with a Life and Death brigade. Lor

2:40

Life finally gets some time with April

2:42

when she jumps in to save Luke from hosting

2:44

a disastrous birthday party, but

2:47

not everyone is happy about

2:49

it.

2:50

Mm well, I

2:53

think.

2:56

Well is right? Okay,

3:02

why doesn't everybody say how they felt about the episode?

3:05

And then I'll give my sort of thing

3:07

that's been bothering me for four

3:09

days.

3:09

I thought this was a fantastic episode. Yeah,

3:13

I thought this, and it got me at the end.

3:15

And I'm telling you, I got emotional at

3:17

the end. Uh,

3:19

I don't know. And I was

3:21

searching my my data

3:23

banks to figure out why I

3:25

was getting so emotional and interesting it

3:27

hit me right away. I

3:29

know exactly why I loved this episode

3:32

so because it was parents

3:34

caring about their yeah

3:39

and the way parents should care about their kids,

3:41

and it was people loving each other the right way.

3:45

And it really got me. It really

3:47

really got me.

3:48

Anyway, this

3:52

is gonna be a conversation. I think

3:55

let's just start with that.

3:57

Go Suzanne, hang on, I gotta go get my

3:59

brass knuckles. I'll be right

4:00

back.

4:02

No, I So I was

4:04

thinking about this during

4:07

the past week since we recorded the last

4:09

episode, because when I gave the

4:12

last episode a seven point five, you guys couldn't

4:14

believe that I ranked it that low. I don't

4:16

think seven point five is that low out of ten,

4:19

but first but.

4:22

Really low,

4:26

Like.

4:26

What constitutes a

4:29

good episode? Like are

4:31

we are we ranking it based on the

4:33

quality of the writing or how

4:36

funny it is or how it

4:38

makes us feel?

4:40

Look, so I think that I

4:42

think there will be above.

4:43

I think write all of the

4:45

above, and how engaged we are in the episode.

4:47

Yeah, okay, And.

4:49

So an episode like this, like

4:52

I watch Gilmore Girls because

4:54

it's comforting and it's funny, and

4:56

I watch an episode like this and I come away

4:58

feeling anxious and depress. So

5:02

to me, that wasn't

5:04

that grave of an experience. Even

5:07

though there were some great lines and

5:09

it was well written, it didn't make me feel

5:11

good.

5:11

So yeah, see, I don't watch it to

5:13

feel good. I watch it to feel Yeah,

5:16

yeah, I

5:19

am.

5:19

That's all I do is feel So

5:22

I want to watch Gilboard Girls and it's

5:24

fat and and just have

5:26

a good experience instead of just trying to get

5:28

through the day.

5:29

But It's also different because we're watching like

5:31

in the past, when I'd watch and I just binge

5:34

it. I feel like I didn't feel that way because

5:36

I just like roll into the next Poe Who. But

5:38

maybe it's because you're like isolating

5:40

the episodes too.

5:42

Yeah, that could be.

5:44

I don't know.

5:44

We'll get into it. But I'm mad at

5:47

all of them in this episode. I'm mad. We'll

5:49

get mad at Anna. I'm mad at Laura.

5:51

I like, I'm not at Anna Ish.

5:54

But I watched Friends, not at

5:56

anybody.

5:57

I'm not

5:59

mad at.

5:59

I'm not mad at him. I'm less mad at Mitcham.

6:02

I'm not that mad at Mitcham. Either I watch Friends

6:04

or Seinfeld or something for a chuckle right

6:06

modern family. I watch this,

6:09

I watch Sex and the City, I watch

6:11

The West Wing, I watch Walking Dead

6:13

to feel something. I

6:16

don't go in having a requirement

6:18

that it has to make me feel unicorns

6:20

and rainbows. It's it's I

6:23

want to feel.

6:25

I think. I think this demonstrates the

6:28

This shows versatility,

6:32

its ability to do drama comedy

6:36

all in one swoop.

6:38

It's breathtakingly difficult

6:41

to do. Each episode

6:44

has a unique flavor to it,

6:47

whether it's shaded more to the comedy side

6:49

more. And and here's the thing that I found

6:51

unique. And this is me being subjective,

6:54

Okay, I cannot be objective about

6:56

this, because you know, Luke

6:58

provided the comedy in this episode.

7:01

He was the funniest guy in

7:03

the episode. And I was really delighted

7:06

by that because I forgot all about this

7:10

and everybody else was doing the drama and he was sort

7:12

of the same one of the central figures in

7:14

the Drumaself without

7:16

Emily and Richard, showing

7:19

again how versatile this cast can

7:21

be. The

7:24

The the Anna dynamic with

7:26

Laurel and Luke and all that entails

7:30

was the thing that really got me watching

7:32

parents care about their kids and protecting

7:34

their kids and and and Rory

7:37

protecting her boyfriend and yeah,

7:39

meeting and and and

7:41

you know, everybody having that Shirley McClain

7:43

moment, Uh, you give the

7:45

pills to my daughter now, and freaking you know,

7:47

this kind of thing that you're asked down

7:49

here, and you you see your

7:52

son.

7:52

She was not playing, even though he was.

7:55

The boys were playing. At first,

7:57

they they were very jokey, right,

7:59

and then it's much for Rory in this episode,

8:02

because yeah, she really

8:05

loves him.

8:06

I think some of these characters took on a heroic

8:09

I've never loved Laurel I more and

8:12

seen her as this kind of you

8:15

know, black belt in life. In

8:17

any situation, she can make it better

8:19

and fuller and full of

8:21

joy. She was

8:24

rather brilliant in this episode, and

8:27

I really think her leading

8:30

this series is

8:32

an incredibly wise choice

8:35

on Amy's part, and what

8:38

an actress that she got.

8:40

You really see that when you have Sherylyn

8:43

Finn and Lauren Graham in the same scene,

8:45

you really see like, oh, that was

8:48

almost Laura Lai.

8:50

But I thought Shelon Finn could have pulled off

8:52

fine.

8:53

I agree. I think it would have been a bit

8:55

of a different.

8:56

It would have been.

8:57

It just it's Eric Stoltson, Michael J. Fox

8:59

and back to the future. I don't know if you've ever seen

9:01

the scenes, we don't know that it would

9:03

have been bad. It just wasn't as

9:06

funny. I think Lauren Graham brings

9:09

Michael J.

9:10

Fox, Yeah,

9:12

the special, there's something extra special

9:15

there.

9:15

Yeah.

9:17

So I just thought it was a really

9:20

heroic, versatile, unexpected,

9:23

deeply emotional episode. For

9:26

me, it was the deepest episode in

9:28

recent memory. And emotion.

9:30

Yeah, yeah, it's so. I watched it a

9:32

few days ago, almost

9:35

like a week ago, and it

9:38

stayed with me multiple

9:40

parts. If I, if I, if you'll

9:42

indulge me to just bring up those topics. Number

9:45

One, Amma

9:48

being so angry at Luke because

9:50

Laura I play on the birthday. I have real

9:54

conversations I want to have about that. Number

9:57

two, Anna's

10:00

so Lorlai going to see Anna. I

10:02

want to see what you all think of that. Anna's

10:05

response, I'll give

10:07

my quick opinion on it,

10:09

valid in that she wants to protect

10:12

her daughter from a

10:14

woman who's gonna come and go from her life.

10:17

But it's almost like she's talking out of both sides

10:19

of her mouth because in this case, for

10:21

me, Lauraai is

10:23

engaged. They've been friends

10:25

and together forever, so

10:29

judging by what Anna's saying, Laurai

10:31

checks all the boxes.

10:33

And now that the problem is she never met

10:35

her, she's a stranger.

10:39

It doesn't matter that. And

10:41

when she said, nobody

10:43

plays fast and loose with my kid,

10:46

and she's one hundred percent right,

10:49

I understand that. But as

10:51

Anna said, Luke

10:54

is still in the audition phase.

10:57

Audition

11:01

and get to take the moral high ground here

11:03

because she.

11:03

I think she doesn't get away from her.

11:06

That's what thank you. I really want

11:08

to talk about the fact that.

11:09

But hang on a second.

11:10

That's a good point, that's an excellent point, But it

11:13

doesn't negate the fact that

11:15

Anna raised that child. It doesn't

11:19

negate the fact and she has got an ultimate

11:21

responsibility for

11:23

that child's wellbeing.

11:25

We also have to realize Luke has

11:27

not brought around LAURAAI yet

11:30

to me and have built a relationship

11:33

with with April. So

11:36

from Anna's viewpoint, I

11:39

personally think rightfully, so she

11:41

is a stranger. Whether she is engaged

11:43

to Luke or not, she is still a stranger. She

11:45

has never hung out with her daughter. She

11:48

Anna has never hung out with Laura. I has

11:50

never even had a

11:52

conversation. So yeah,

11:55

like anybody's valid.

11:56

Does anybody want Luke to say to Anna,

12:00

you kept my kid from me for

12:02

twelve years and now you're

12:04

telling me what you want me to do.

12:07

I've been nothing but fair to you. I'll see

12:09

you in court.

12:10

No, no, yourself, you.

12:12

Get my kid from me? Why though,

12:14

Scott, why are you not mad because

12:17

took your kids?

12:18

Because we're twelve years now, we're past

12:20

that. I don't think we are because ship has

12:23

sailed.

12:23

I was past it until this episode.

12:26

Do you know why that ship has sailed? Because

12:28

he's accepted the conditions and the terms

12:30

that Anna said. I get that to

12:33

have quote unquote unofficial

12:37

until this episode at times custody

12:39

of that child's court.

12:43

Oh god, no, no, no, you're the

12:45

father, Scott, you are the father

12:47

of the child. But that's not the way you

12:49

play it. It is doesn't benefit

12:52

the child.

12:52

It is now.

12:53

It doesn't benefit the child to do

12:55

that, It doesn't benefit you.

12:58

Luke has been nothing but good,

13:01

right, kind, fair,

13:04

and I think although

13:06

I understand what she's saying,

13:08

she has now crossed the line and

13:10

flexed so hard with

13:15

she it's equally your child.

13:17

Like we don't know anything about their relationship.

13:21

We know that she did not

13:23

tell you you have a kid.

13:25

Okay, maybe there was a reason for that.

13:27

Name me a possible reason that.

13:32

Well, obviously she didn't want Luke back

13:35

then a part of her.

13:37

Or that's that's not her

13:39

choice.

13:39

I understand that.

13:42

When he went over there, she told him that she

13:45

didn't tell him because she said he

13:47

didn't like kids. That

13:49

was her reasoning, which I'm sorry

13:51

that I agree.

13:53

I was cool with her until she just

13:55

really pushed it too

13:57

hard.

13:57

Because keeping Anna from Luke, I mean,

14:00

keeping April from Luke hurts April

14:02

too, Like her daughter didn't know her father for

14:04

twelve years hurts. That hurts

14:06

April too. It's not just about Luke,

14:09

It's about April too.

14:11

And then flexing so much control.

14:13

And look, we all know I have

14:15

been team Luke on this.

14:18

I always felt it was a Luke slash

14:21

Anna decision, right, but

14:23

now Luke has made this decision

14:26

to bring lor Light in in a

14:28

very like minor way, by

14:30

the way, that it's not. Anna

14:33

doesn't get to come and scream at Luke

14:36

and then flex on Lorli.

14:38

Lor Li has been nothing but cool, followed

14:41

everybody's quote rules,

14:44

and it was a birthday party.

14:46

Look, I think the issue here is uh

14:50

for any every situation that is

14:52

absolutely correct. However, and

14:55

I'm not I'm not saying that this makes

14:57

it right. But Luke is

14:59

very new to the picture, and

15:02

so we have to understand

15:05

that Anna's not going to just be like, well,

15:07

you're her dad, so go with it. But

15:09

he's new to the picture because she lied,

15:12

but she lies, I understand that. I understand

15:14

that, but you have to understand where she's

15:17

coming from. She's raised this daughter

15:19

for the last twelve years by herself. That

15:22

right, she basically kidnapped. However

15:24

you want to look at it, kidnapped or raise the

15:26

daughter. She has been the one solely

15:29

raising this kid, whether it's right

15:31

or wrong. Wrong, So okay,

15:34

I agree, so wrong however we want to see

15:37

it. But you now bring in

15:39

a dad to the picture, right, and

15:43

she's trying to navigate that on top

15:45

of now not trying to navigate his

15:48

fiance. I think we

15:50

just have to realize that she's had all this control

15:52

for so so long, and now she's

15:54

kind of feels like she's losing

15:57

it a little bit.

15:57

You know, she should have handled it a different

15:59

way. My beef is with Anna. Look,

16:03

Luke could have handled it

16:06

better, right, He could have called her and you

16:08

know, been a bit more communicative about

16:11

Lorlai being there. But let me put it to you

16:13

guys this way. And I again, I've been very

16:16

on the side of

16:19

supporting Luke in his decision because

16:21

I felt like it was his and Anna's

16:23

to make say that Luke

16:25

and Anna found out they were pregnant

16:28

and they're in it together. She's

16:30

pregnant, and then she births the baby

16:33

and decides to take the baby

16:36

and it goes off just like she did for twelve

16:38

years. That's kidnapping.

16:41

Kidnapping, Okay,

16:45

So why are we so like, well, this

16:47

is what Anna wants and she's been raising the kid

16:49

and it should really be her rules. No,

16:51

she took the kid away, never

16:54

gave Luke the opportunity to

16:57

be a father. That is not okay

16:59

with me. It's weird,

17:02

frankly, And I don't think we have enough.

17:04

I don't think Wow, I.

17:07

Think it is criminal.

17:08

Frankly, I don't think we have

17:10

enough information. You may be right, I don't

17:12

know, but I don't think we have enough information

17:14

about the nature of their relationship. I

17:16

think we can, we can speculate on it

17:19

given the very little information

17:21

we have about it. But we pointed

17:23

out we don't know the nature of

17:25

that relationship.

17:29

But there's so many circumstances. Obviously

17:32

Luke is not a bad person, we know that.

17:34

But it's not a black and white situation.

17:36

Yeah, there's a lot of gray. There's

17:38

a lot of gray here.

17:48

Should we go to the top and go through

17:50

because.

17:51

But does nobody else not see gray to

17:54

me like that she it

17:56

just finally hit me this week, like she

17:59

took the kid.

18:01

Yeah, but we don't know, but why does Why

18:03

are many reasons why people do that? Whether again,

18:07

you guys, flip it right, flip

18:09

it.

18:10

Say that a surrogate, so

18:13

that say that Luke, no

18:15

you guys, yes.

18:16

You guys, it's not comparable taking

18:20

the kid like it's.

18:21

No, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't. You didn't

18:23

let me finish because a

18:25

man can't carry the child. So say

18:27

that there's Luke and Anna make

18:30

a baby and a surrogate carries it. The

18:33

baby is born, and Luke takes it away

18:35

from the mother for twelve years and then finally

18:37

says, oh, my kid wants to do a DNA

18:39

test. How are you guys kidding

18:41

me? Why are we

18:44

giving Anna so much leeway?

18:47

She took his kid, never

18:49

told him about it. What

18:53

is the reason that that's okay? Just give it to

18:55

me and I'll hear you that.

18:56

We don't have an answer. We don't know. We

18:59

don't know. The surf.

19:00

I think that's where the gray area is is like that's

19:02

the gray.

19:02

Yeah, but what is what is a make

19:05

up a reason, make up a reason

19:07

that makes it okay?

19:08

What I mean, it's already been pointed out. What if

19:10

after repeatedly telling Anna twelve

19:13

thirteen, fourteen years ago, listen,

19:15

I have no interesting kids, I don't want to have it.

19:17

And he can say I don't want this kid.

19:21

Well, he might not have been aware of it. Maybe

19:23

they broke up when she was you know, before

19:25

she even knew she was pregnant.

19:27

But let's let's just say he's.

19:32

Totally it's his kid. It's

19:34

not her kid, you guys, just because she's

19:36

carried the baby. It's his

19:39

kid. And this finally hit me this week.

19:42

Why am I okay that

19:45

she took the kid for twelve

19:47

years? So I'm just finally telling you guys, I'm

19:50

not okay with it. It's not okay.

19:52

I know it is literally not

19:54

okay.

19:55

Again, I think we're operating

19:57

with very little information here.

19:58

I agree there's a guy, how long. There's so

20:00

many, so many reasons. There's so many

20:03

reasons a woman can move on without

20:05

the father and not want the father a part of the picture.

20:07

There's many reasons.

20:09

Right, we don't know what they say. They're correct.

20:11

If he's abusive, a criminal,

20:13

an alcoholic. He is none of

20:16

those things.

20:16

How do you know that.

20:18

I know Luke? What are you talking about?

20:20

How do you know that people change? I'm

20:22

just saying we don't. We don't. We don't

20:25

know the nature of Luke and Anna's relationship.

20:27

We don't know that.

20:28

It doesn't I don't care about the nature of their relationship.

20:31

I care about knowing him and

20:33

her. So please, you, guys, I'm not trying to be

20:35

an ass. Give me a reason why

20:37

it's okay that Anna took

20:40

his kid away. Give me a reason.

20:43

Maybe maybe they were

20:45

having some really like verbally

20:47

abusive arguments, so then they.

20:49

Don't stay together. I

20:51

mean, still again, why

20:54

about she said? Why?

20:56

Why?

20:56

What did she say?

20:58

She told him because he didn't like kids.

21:00

Right, that's yeah, she didn't like that, That's what

21:02

she said.

21:03

We know the reason, and that

21:05

doesn't matter.

21:06

He's still he still deserves to have that

21:08

information.

21:09

How can any of you guys say that that is

21:11

justifiable reason to not tell

21:13

a person about their kid. Well,

21:16

it's not so what I'm.

21:18

Telling you, that's the only reason.

21:21

Yeah, you know Luke, you

21:23

know him.

21:24

We all know him, you guys. We don't

21:26

act like we just met this guy.

21:28

We know him, but I think I think it is

21:30

happening for for that like I

21:33

think that we know as the audience,

21:35

we know Luke, but maybe

21:38

Anna didn't know him in that same life.

21:40

She dated him for so long. What are you talking about?

21:42

You guys? You guys are making up

21:45

things that we know not to be true.

21:47

I think it's I don't think making

21:49

up anything.

21:50

I remember when you mop in the diner. Whatever

21:52

she said, she fully knows. Anna

21:55

sucks. She took the kid. It's

21:57

not okay,

22:00

it's not okay. And then now.

22:03

Look, everybody in the audience is listening. The problem

22:05

with Amy is you can't tell how she feels

22:08

about it.

22:09

Actually, she's pretty

22:11

gray.

22:16

I'm so emotional about it because it's like I

22:20

understand that I appreciate you guys trying

22:22

to defend amma. Why the

22:24

hell we're trying to defend her. I don't know. She seems

22:27

fine, right, she's she's a good mom,

22:29

but she took his kid,

22:31

right, and I've been playing

22:34

by her rules and being very supportive

22:36

of her. But never until

22:38

a few days ago, what

22:41

what am I doing?

22:42

Like he'd

22:45

I think you're also looking at it knowing the

22:47

other side of it, you know, based

22:49

off of what we've seen. We know Luke, we

22:51

know Laura, we know Rory, but

22:54

she doesn't. It doesn't law

22:56

to understand that.

22:57

No, I'm so sorry, and I know everyone's gonna

22:59

be like you up to Danielle. Okay, your

23:01

piece, Danielle, but give me a reason.

23:04

Okay.

23:05

It's okay that Anna took his kid away

23:07

for twelve years.

23:08

Okay, so maybe, okay, So your argument

23:10

is it's a good one. It maybe

23:12

it's not. Okay, Okay, I

23:15

can see where you're coming from, But

23:17

at this point in time,

23:20

this is a completely different show.

23:23

If he follows your advice and says,

23:26

you know, blank, Anna, I'm

23:28

getting a lawyer see in court. That's not

23:31

Gilmore Girls. And that's not

23:33

that we don't get the entertainment value

23:35

of the show, fair right, Okay.

23:38

So it's better to see people trying

23:40

to do their best under difficult

23:43

circumstances and coming together

23:45

as a community for the sake

23:47

of this child. Because

23:50

because if it gets because if it gets that

23:52

contentious with the courtrooms and legal

23:55

and it's going to damage the child. So

23:57

I like seeing these people str

24:00

to do the right thing. By April,

24:02

I love that.

24:03

I love what you're saying, totally love what you're

24:05

saying. And I feel like, up

24:07

until this moment, everybody's been

24:10

doing that right. Laura Lai's

24:12

been doing right by Luke because

24:14

this is what he wanted. We're all being very

24:16

respectful of Anna. Luke has been

24:19

so respectful of everybody until

24:23

Anna came and screamed at Luke for

24:25

having his fiance help with a birthday

24:27

party that was super lame and needed

24:29

to be better for the good of the

24:31

child. Then Loralai

24:34

goes and tries to do the right thing by.

24:36

Saying one thing, Can I add one thing there?

24:38

Of course, it's not just that. The one

24:40

thing that she kept saying is that she had

24:42

a sleepover and Lorlai was in the room with

24:44

the girls that I can sympathize

24:47

with. My kid is not going to be at a sleepover

24:49

with another adult I don't know.

24:51

So would it have been better sleep

24:56

Absolutely?

24:57

No, Actually non with

25:00

an adult. They don't know adult,

25:02

They don't know

25:05

the girls.

25:06

All the girls, including April called

25:08

their parents.

25:10

Yep, that's right.

25:11

So if a parent was not okay with it,

25:13

they could have told their kid, no, you need to come

25:15

home.

25:16

Exactly. And also they could have said.

25:18

Hey, let me talk to the adult that's going to be

25:20

there.

25:21

You think about it, I'm going to Nobody called

25:23

April. I mean, I'm sorry.

25:25

Nobody April called her. They show

25:27

her on the phone with her.

25:31

Because she thought it was just Luke in the room, And yeah,

25:33

it's weirder.

25:34

If it's Luke number two. When your kids

25:36

are thirteen, I guarantee you they will

25:38

go to slumber parties at people's houses

25:41

that you might know the mom and you don't know

25:43

the dad, or you've met the dad. Like that is

25:45

how the world works, like your kid makes

25:48

or not.

25:49

You sleepovers

25:52

at people's houses that my parents didn't know all

25:55

the time.

25:56

Like you, you would have said, no, you can't sleep over,

25:58

you need to come home. The girls slept

26:00

over had permission from their parents exactly.

26:02

And I had sleepovers for sure at

26:05

Christine Borkenhagen's and I don't know that my mom

26:08

was best friends with her dad.

26:09

But yeah, but we came from a different amy.

26:12

We're a little older than these kids, and we

26:14

came from a different world where things

26:16

weren't so unsafe.

26:18

Well, Findam's point makes

26:20

the best.

26:21

My especially my planet. We did that all

26:23

the time. Everybody knew each other, everything

26:25

was safe, doors were unlocked.

26:27

Right.

26:27

That is not the world we live in.

26:29

And Suzann Suzana

26:31

makes a great point, which

26:33

is they all called their moms.

26:35

They call their parents. Like as if

26:38

my kid called me and said, can

26:40

I spend the night, It's incumbent

26:42

on me as the parent to make sure that's a safe

26:44

situation for kids. So I wasn't

26:46

comfortable with it. I wouldn't let my kids

26:48

stay. So presumably anyone

26:51

that spent the night that night was had

26:53

their parents okay, or they wouldn't.

26:55

Have spent the night. But Anna keeps Anna

26:58

keeps saying that she thought

27:00

it was just Luke that so she

27:02

so she did she did give

27:04

her consent for her to sleep over

27:06

at her dad's place. Yeah,

27:09

yes, she did give that consent.

27:11

Engaged, Like I understand I'm double

27:13

talking because I have been very

27:15

supportive of when it was Luke's decision. But

27:17

like they're engaged. That

27:21

would be like saying, Okay, you can sleep at

27:24

your dad's house, but his wife has to leave,

27:27

Like it's just totally no.

27:28

But she may is a distinction between

27:31

married and engaging. People get engaged all the

27:33

time, and they don't doesn't she said,

27:35

she said, when you're married then you know, then

27:37

come talk to me. Why do you make that commitment?

27:39

I think the difference is like Lorala wasn't there

27:42

when the party started, where Anna could go meet

27:44

her. I think that also she just.

27:46

Hasn't met her at all.

27:47

She hasn't met her.

27:48

But like, let's she shouldn't have kidnapped kid

27:50

for twelve years, maybe she could have met everybody.

27:54

I do think that if like this would have

27:56

been a little different if like Lorala was at

27:58

the diner, maybe like she wasn't saying

28:00

for the party, but she happened to be there when it started,

28:03

met Anna, And if Anna had her own

28:06

issues with it, she could.

28:07

Have confronted then and

28:09

why isn't Anna at the party? It's her kids? Where

28:13

are you Anna?

28:14

They made some comment, Yeah, they

28:16

explained why, something about going to her grandmother's

28:18

I can't remember, but they did say that there

28:20

was some reason Anna changed the date of the party.

28:22

But I think I think I think it was maybe

28:25

it was Anna, Maybe they she did have

28:27

a little legit excuse, But it's a

28:29

big responsibility,

28:31

it's it's it's deepening

28:33

of the trust between Anna and Luke.

28:37

Right, who are forming another

28:39

relationship that isn't

28:41

you know, romantic, So this is a

28:43

friendship relationship. This is two

28:46

people that used to be together and used to be in love and

28:48

have a child together unbeknownst

28:50

to Luke, and and

28:52

he didn't, in her estimation, make

28:55

the right the

28:57

right steps to make trust.

29:00

She's trusting Luke a lot. Now this

29:02

is like, this is like another level of

29:05

trust. You throw her the birthday party, all the girls are

29:07

going to be there. I trust you to do this. It's a big step

29:09

for Luke. Right.

29:11

So what if Rory or Lane were there helping

29:13

with the party and they decided to sleep over, No

29:15

problem.

29:17

I think it's got to be cleared with Anna. She's got

29:19

to know who's at the party.

29:20

Now, Anna ditched her kid to

29:23

go to the question with especially teenagers,

29:25

because teenagers can invite their boyfriends and

29:27

then their friends. And then if you're gonna let your

29:30

ex boyfriend the baby's

29:33

father throw the birthday party,

29:36

hey for the party, plan the party, do the

29:38

entire party, and be responsible for

29:41

these kids all

29:43

day long. But you're saying, but he's

29:45

not responsible enough to then choose

29:48

who tends

29:51

the sleepover portion, like, it doesn't

29:54

make sense, you, guys, It's totally idiotic

29:56

that she's like, you're fine to go on a ten

29:59

day trip with him for her school,

30:01

but you're not then smart

30:05

enough to decide that your fiance

30:07

can be a part of the sleepover. It's idiotic.

30:10

You're asking for a reason. Maybe if something in Anna's

30:12

past that almost got

30:14

her killed or kidnapped or whatever, her

30:17

parents were looking the other way, didn't

30:19

vet the people closely enough, and she's

30:21

just reacting to that. So she promised herself if she

30:24

ever had a kid, that she's never going

30:26

to take a chance. She's never gonna let anybody play

30:28

faster kid. It won't

30:30

She's fine with Luke, she has a side

30:33

caution.

30:34

No problem with Luke, who she hasn't seen

30:36

in twelve years, really either. No

30:39

problem with Luke staying with the

30:41

ten, fifteen, twelve

30:44

year olds. It doesn't make

30:46

sense. She's just talking gibber

30:48

jabber, nonsense out of both sides of her mouth.

30:51

I think nonsense.

30:52

What I also took from it was I think that Anna

30:56

also taking April for so long.

30:58

I think she likes the contry of her kid,

31:01

and I think that she

31:03

has control that her kid was dropped off

31:05

with Luke, but she didn't have control

31:08

that Laura l I was also there. And I

31:10

think that she feels like now that the

31:13

what about the clown?

31:14

What if there was a clown at the party or

31:16

a man of hearists? Like what are we talking

31:18

about?

31:19

You guys?

31:20

She all kid and all the friends with

31:22

Luke and now she's having

31:24

a cow. It just doesn't even make sense.

31:27

It's just like, come on, it was

31:30

Tatara's point, like she dropped off

31:32

April at Luke's place to

31:35

do just a quick little party that

31:37

then turned into a sleepover, which

31:40

then turned into Luke's fiance being

31:43

at the sleepover and sleeping in the same room

31:45

as the girls at the sleepover. I

31:48

think there was just all

31:50

these things that weren't a part of the original

31:53

plan, which, like

31:56

it's weird because I watched this episode

31:58

and I'm not mad at anybody. I'm

32:00

not mad at Lorelai, I'm not mad at Luke, I'm not mad

32:02

at Anna, I'm not mad at April. I'm

32:04

not mad at anybody. I actually see

32:07

how everybody actually, like how

32:09

they made their

32:12

decisions and how they felt in

32:16

those decisions. Does that make sense, Like,

32:18

I'm not mad at anybody. I actually, totally.

32:20

I'm not mad at anybody either. I think everybody's

32:23

just doing the best they can. And so

32:25

Anna has a freak out because, as

32:28

Daniel rightly points out, it

32:30

was supposed to be a little party couple hours

32:32

and then that's it. Anna

32:34

gets April back and relief and it all

32:36

went well, great, I trust Luke

32:38

enough to do a little couple hour party during the

32:41

day, and then it turns into a slumber party, which

32:43

was Laurelized idea, not Luke's, which

32:45

she said yes to, which okay, which

32:48

but still she doesn't want to be the party

32:50

pooper and she doesn't want to disappoint her kid. But

32:53

this wasn't in the plan, and now it makes

32:55

her nervous and she's having to deal with the stress

32:58

all night. She probab didn't sleep all night? No

33:01

sure, sure sure, because

33:03

she was worried to death. Something's going to happen.

33:04

Why didn't she come? She

33:07

could have just come to the party. Hey, yeah,

33:09

you're having a sleepover, kay, I'll come join.

33:10

I think I think if you like, if

33:12

you think about it, April

33:15

came home. April was had

33:17

the best time ever. Loved it. It was exciting

33:20

and fun. She tells her mom. We had

33:22

a sleepover, Laura Lai put

33:25

face masks on, she curled our hair, she

33:28

read his book Whatever you Do at simp over parties.

33:31

And she's probably like, who's

33:33

Laura? Like, oh, well, this is dad's

33:36

fiance. How come I haven't

33:38

met her? Why is she with you? If I haven't

33:40

met her?

33:41

Like that is a very real thing, because

33:43

I kidnapped my kid for twelve Okay.

33:45

But you got to remove that.

33:46

You have to mad that. Why though, Tell me

33:48

why I have to remove.

33:49

It, Because even if Anna and Luke

33:52

just broke up the year before, I would

33:54

still feel the same way.

33:55

I agree with you. If they broke up a year before.

33:58

Why does it make it different.

33:59

Because he would have been involved in the child's

34:01

life the whole time, and they would have been

34:04

raising the child together, and they would

34:06

have had established the familial

34:08

unit. Being that and then the mother

34:11

gets to have a conversation.

34:14

It goes both ways, right, Luke can

34:16

say, Look, if you're going to introduce your significant

34:18

other to April, I'd like to meet that person first.

34:21

Vice versa. Right, And when

34:24

did Anna ever say to Luke

34:26

she can't meet Loralai? When did that

34:29

ever happen?

34:38

Okay, So here's what I think is going

34:40

on underneath the surface

34:43

here. I think Anna is

34:46

jealous. Yeah, yeah,

34:49

I think she's having I think she flipped out

34:51

on Luke because she realizes that

34:53

ship is sailed. And in a prime previous

34:55

scene when they were Anna and

34:58

Luke were in the day and talking about

35:01

the party dropping her off, and

35:03

then there was something going on with

35:05

Anna towards Luke. There was a vibe.

35:08

There was definitely some flirty flirt.

35:09

The flirty flirt stuff too

35:11

happening, Maybe not so

35:14

much from Luke, but it was definitely coming from

35:16

Anna. So I think Anna had some

35:19

kind of scenario that maybe

35:22

this is a good feeling and maybe maybe

35:24

we're getting back together.

35:25

I get that vibe.

35:28

Going.

35:28

That's fair, That's totally fair. I have to rewatch

35:31

it. I think she's jealous because Loralai

35:33

threw a dope ass party and she

35:35

didn't.

35:36

Well, yeah, I feel like she's

35:38

jealous of the April

35:40

Laurelei connection, not.

35:42

Not the Luke thing, but I totally.

35:45

Felt like she went to the diner part why

35:47

don't she killed it Luke because she was trying to pick

35:49

a fight, because she was jealous.

35:51

I think it's all above, I think truly,

35:54

Like, Yeah, she's jealous, of course. Yeah,

35:57

she's uncomfortable that her daughter is there at

35:59

a at a Slummer party with a different

36:01

adult that she's never met. Yeah, she's upset

36:04

that she's losing control. I think it's all these things.

36:06

I think it's all about too Yeah. Yeah, anyway,

36:09

let's move on. We've so much more

36:11

in this episode. We really haven't. Really, it's

36:14

exhausted.

36:18

Opinions on all of it.

36:19

Great makeup on Matt Zukree

36:21

because he looked really Scott,

36:24

you start leading us through the episode.

36:26

Thank you so much. I

36:29

really appreciate that. Uh

36:32

so, Laurela. We start out the episode

36:34

forty five minutes into our podcast in

36:37

the Dragonfly in kitchen, Laurel

36:40

I has a rip snorter of

36:42

a hangover and

36:46

Suki like weirdly refers

36:49

to Christopher as chivalrous

36:53

the night in Shining Armor? Did

36:55

it did that jar anybody? I mean maybe

36:58

in this one circumstance, what else do

37:00

Yeah, but it's

37:03

weird.

37:03

She's so like, right

37:05

now, all about Christopher right, right

37:08

right. Also weird that the one guy was banging the pots

37:10

so loud.

37:11

It's like, really, I

37:14

know.

37:15

It was so utterly staged,

37:17

Susanna.

37:18

The thing for me about that scene because at the

37:20

end of the last scene she does the insane

37:22

toast and then they hurry her

37:25

off the stage. I thought that they

37:27

took her home at that point, but then in this

37:29

episode we find out that was just

37:31

the beginning of the Loreley Show.

37:33

She went on and try.

37:34

That's why I said in the podcast,

37:37

I wish they'd just let her talk keep

37:39

talking, and they apparently they did, and we missed

37:41

it, all

37:46

right, So that was that. And

37:48

now we're in the hospital and

37:50

do we see Logan yet? I don't think we don't

37:53

see see Logan yet. They

37:55

just tell her that he's in serious but stable

37:58

can dish And then we

38:01

get to Finn and Colin. We're

38:04

delightful and funny in this, I mean really

38:06

really funny, but.

38:08

A little bit of callous, Like their friend

38:11

is basically half dead and they're like, yeah,

38:13

they deserve the.

38:17

Rory.

38:18

I would have done the same thing.

38:20

Probably, But how did

38:22

we feel about that, Susanne, how did you feel about it?

38:24

I mean, at the same time, you don't

38:26

really expect anything more from them because

38:29

just like.

38:32

You, I

38:34

thought it was perfect.

38:35

Yeah, like that's how you expect them to act because

38:37

they're just they don't have a serious

38:40

bone in their body. Like everything is just a giant

38:42

joke to them.

38:43

It's like, put them back together and let's party. Come on, right,

38:45

Yeah, yeah, get him back up on his feet and let's

38:48

get back to Costa Rica. But

38:57

yeah, Rory's stepping up. You know, she's really

39:00

like, you know, she really didn't him. So now we're

39:02

with Now we're with Grant Lee

39:04

Phillips, Grant Lee Buffalo again

39:08

making feel good.

39:10

That was so crazy though. I felt like there were so many

39:12

like background actors almost

39:15

jumping into a girl.

39:17

That came up to him and she just stared and started

39:19

walking to him. I thought

39:23

she was going to hit on him or something. I asked.

39:24

Yeah, I was like, what's happening, you know?

39:26

But it was. It was super cool to see him.

39:31

So that's a nice pop. See. This is this is

39:33

why this show is so great. You get that stuff

39:35

you don't expect it, and then there he is there.

39:38

He is the great one. You know, he's

39:40

on tour the guy's on Toomas.

39:43

I think he's going to be in Nashville, and I'm there. I'm going to be

39:45

in Nashville after it. I'm

39:48

going to Nashville. So

39:51

now we're at Lukes, and Caesar

39:53

has been running the show over

39:56

at Lukes for ten days, and he's changed

39:58

some menu items and some traditions

40:01

and customs over there, and now

40:03

he's clashing with Luke, who was back.

40:05

And the cold bananas are no more

40:07

and the signs are no more. Uh,

40:11

let's let's talk about this. What did you guys think

40:13

of this scene?

40:14

I thought it was interesting that everyone wanted a cold

40:17

banana, like has come

40:19

from.

40:19

I don't even think you're supposed to.

40:22

I don't put I refrigerate bananas.

40:25

You do?

40:26

Actually, I thought it makes the brown.

40:29

Yeah, well I like a cold

40:31

banana in my cereal.

40:33

Oh but does it?

40:34

But does it? Well?

40:36

Of course you no, no, no, peel it

40:38

first, No way, I feel

40:40

like that wreck. Yeah, you don't

40:42

peel them. And if you peel them, you eat them. You

40:45

know, That's what I tell my kid. I said, you peel

40:47

that thing, you eat it. But like

40:49

Charles Bronson.

40:51

Frozen banana though, yeah, like yeah,

40:54

that's.

40:54

Different, or even like just if you're like I put

40:56

bananas in the freezers, then make smoothies

40:58

like the next day or is thing. But I

41:02

never heard of just bananas in the fridge.

41:04

Well, anyway, so you know, Lorela

41:06

I comes in and they discussed the party, and

41:09

he tells her about the party, and she offers

41:11

her help and he rejects her.

41:13

He says, now, without telling her

41:15

why, he just says, no, I got this covered,

41:18

and you know, and

41:20

Luke Lurla I comes over.

41:23

I'm sorry. Miss Patty comes over and says, don't

41:25

worry, honey. You know, it may

41:27

take a mule team to get Luke to the altar,

41:29

but he'll get there, you know, this kind of thing. And she's

41:32

looking a bit forlorn.

41:35

I wish Miss Patty because

41:37

that was when she said that she's the

41:39

whole town is going with the endless love

41:41

story, that she's saying endless

41:43

love, and that they are covering up the whole

41:46

thing about what she really said

41:48

when she was at the mic, And I I

41:51

wish Miss Patty hadn't done that, Like

41:54

I wish that the

41:56

truth had just come out and that Luke

41:59

found out out what she was saying at

42:02

the party, because I

42:04

need Lorelai to stand up for what

42:07

she feels and they need to have a

42:09

conversation about this, and that could

42:12

have been the trigger

42:14

that forced it to happen. So I

42:17

wasn't very happy with Miss Patty that

42:19

she was participating in the cover up because

42:22

I wanted it to come to a head and for the

42:24

two of them to have a conversation about what's.

42:26

Really going on.

42:27

Well, I have a feeling that conversation is going to be a cliffhanger

42:31

in season six, maybe

42:33

it'll be two episodes in the future. I

42:36

don't want it.

42:36

I don't want to say no, no, I don't.

42:39

I just kind of have a feeling, all

42:43

right. So now we're with Paris and Rory.

42:46

On the telefano, she

42:48

mentions the former president

42:51

of Harvard, Larry Summers, Laurence

42:53

Summers, who

42:55

is the Treasury secretary under Obama

42:59

Clinton. Yeah he was.

43:00

I didn't even, oh sure get any

43:03

of that.

43:03

Yeah, yeah, and

43:06

these you know, they he announced that the Harvard

43:08

was now giving open book exams.

43:10

In Paris was railing against that. Why

43:13

don't they just give us the answers? What's the point

43:15

of all this? Why are they lowering their standards?

43:18

Yeah?

43:20

And and this is the uh, this

43:24

is when Paris finds out. Is this when

43:26

Paris makes the phone call.

43:27

This is how Paris gets it done?

43:32

Lover.

43:33

It was fun you see the doctor all like?

43:36

All right, So Paris calls the hospital

43:38

to get the scoop because they won't give

43:40

Rory since she's not family, any of the information

43:43

on his condition, on Logan's condition. Paris

43:45

gets the information very quickly, which was a

43:47

cool scene and

43:50

it makes you like Paris even more. Right, all

43:54

right, so now we're now we're with Luke and Laurel

43:56

I shopping and it's more of.

43:59

It's like thing about the hospital bug

44:02

anyone that she was wearing the same coat that she gave

44:04

the Doyle.

44:06

Oh, I thought she was wearing that same weird outfit she wore

44:08

to the wedding.

44:10

Was it the whole out of the coat? Just really?

44:12

I thought it wasn't the Doyle coat. It was

44:14

that weird outfit she wore at the wedding that everybody

44:16

like ripped on her fore and I'm like, oh, wear'st

44:19

wadding.

44:20

It was both it was that crappy skirt,

44:22

but it was it was the Doyle jacket

44:24

over it too.

44:26

I guess she just got it back from Doyle.

44:28

At some point, like through

44:30

my life at that time, I was like, is this the

44:32

Doyle jacket?

44:33

I think she would have just figured out how to throw some

44:35

sweats on for the drive, but for

44:37

the hospital whatever.

44:39

Anyway, Sorry, Scott, all.

44:43

Right, So now Luke and Laurel are outdoors

44:45

shopping. In the background, you see the Warner

44:47

Brothers Theater, which where

44:51

they have what was the retrospective

44:53

they were doing. Gosh,

44:57

just Orson

44:59

Wells. Yeah, so two big movies

45:01

from Morrison Welles. And

45:05

you know this kind

45:07

of continues to set us up that Luke

45:11

does not want Laurel I planning

45:13

I mean of

45:16

herself to help plan this party. And he says,

45:18

do you.

45:19

Believe Did you believe him when he says,

45:21

and I can't remember if it's in this scene or shortly after,

45:24

she's just going to like you more than me.

45:26

Yes, this is this. I do

45:29

believe him. He was being honest with

45:31

her. You.

45:31

I believed him, but I didn't think it was a good reason

45:38

because if his kid likes Laurel

45:40

I, then that's even more time

45:43

that he's going to get to spend with her. Like, if she's spending

45:45

time with Laurela, I, then he's going to be there too.

45:47

So I think that likes that

45:49

he has like April's

45:52

his thing. I think he likes that.

45:55

That would have been better if he said, you're

45:57

going to meet her, You're going to

45:59

spend time with her. She's going to love you. She's

46:02

gonna like you more than me. But I need

46:04

a little more time where it's just us.

46:07

I would have been a little bit more.

46:08

Yeah, like that's the whole conversation I'm

46:11

waiting for them to have. And so when he that

46:13

whole shopping trip he was to me, he

46:16

was being so rude to her. And then when he

46:18

like, She's like, well, I'll just wait here, I would

46:20

have been like, hell no, I'm leaving. I'll see

46:22

you later. Like I would have been pissed. I

46:27

guess I'm just a mean person.

46:28

But I don't think I

46:30

was in that scene.

46:32

I don't know if I would have been pissed. I just I

46:34

agree with you that there's so many conversations to have.

46:37

And I'm not a fan of the threes Company episode.

46:39

Do you know where it's like we all

46:41

know she said it, but he doesn't know, and it's just like,

46:44

oh God, like, can we just have these people communicate

46:46

a little bit more? Like at least Anna and all

46:48

her craziness doesn't like bottle

46:51

it up. At least she's just like letting everybody

46:54

hear it from her.

46:56

I don't know. I just think let's just respect

46:59

Luke's here with his child. Yeah,

47:04

you just got to respect his wishes that he

47:06

doesn't need to explain everything to everybody. And it's

47:09

like.

47:10

Luke from the whole time, and

47:14

she's been abiding by

47:16

his wishes this whole time. I

47:19

just want him to have a conversation with her

47:21

because he's completely shut

47:23

her out and he's not communicating

47:26

with her even a little bit. And

47:28

I just want him to reassure her.

47:31

That he did communicate.

47:33

What do you think he was saying to her.

47:35

He was saying, you're not a part of this.

47:37

Go away. He

47:40

was admitting something. And this is this is

47:42

Luke being vulnerable. This is how Luke gets

47:44

vulnerable. He admitted

47:47

to her that he

47:50

wanted to he

47:52

didn't want to get shoved

47:54

aside by moralized spectacar

47:57

personality, which which came to

47:59

Fru a single day of his life

48:01

and it came.

48:02

To fruition in this very episode because

48:05

she did come and make the party great. She

48:07

did exactly what his fear

48:09

was. But he finally also put his kid first

48:11

and was like, I'm willing

48:14

to do it because my kid's party sucks,

48:16

the big one.

48:16

He just needs some space and some time

48:19

to form his own relationship with his own

48:21

kid.

48:22

Yeah, Luke

48:24

the whole time on the I'm happy.

48:27

I'm happy that Laura I has had

48:29

her moment to shine with April, Like, I'm super

48:31

happy about that, but I'm also kind of like I

48:34

wish it wasn't when Luke

48:36

was desperate, you.

48:38

Know, right, It's kind of sad,

48:41

Like it made me feel sad for Laura, Like he

48:43

wouldn't let her near her until

48:46

he's desperate.

48:47

Yeah, and now he needs help and now

48:49

he needs to Well.

48:50

She's useful to him, and then he'll let her

48:52

in.

48:52

That was a little bit of a bummer.

48:54

That was a big bummer.

48:57

And then she the party turned out great and he even

48:59

said it was great. And you could see he was like when

49:02

they were at the party and she opened the

49:04

gift that was from Luke, you

49:07

can see how excited he was, like it was turning

49:09

out to be a good thing.

49:11

And don't you have a little empathy

49:13

for him? He just wants to be good at life and

49:15

he's not. Hang on, let me finish. He's

49:17

not good at life. He needs

49:20

other he's he he needs

49:22

other people with bigger, sunnier,

49:25

more joyful personalities to get him

49:27

to step up and breathe some fresh air, you

49:30

know, because he's so into his own thing and

49:32

his own whatever it is, right, he

49:36

wanted to figure out with his own daughter and

49:39

be good at this and be a good dad so

49:41

he could feel better about himself and have

49:44

this relationship with his daughter. He failed

49:46

at it in this instant, and he

49:48

failed miserably because that was.

49:53

Just throwing a birthday party for but

49:55

thatad's.

49:56

Failing as a dad and to the point where

49:58

he was so desperate to please

50:00

his daughter to be the hero. Like

50:03

now, it's like, call Laurai

50:05

because I know she's great at this, and I

50:08

just don't see it as a weak

50:10

moment for Luke. I see it as him

50:14

just wanting to be great at life.

50:16

I totally agree with you, and.

50:19

I felt bad for him, and that's I think one of

50:21

the reasons this episode moved

50:23

me so much.

50:24

Yeah, I think he realizes. I

50:27

think maybe he got to a place where he's going. I am

50:29

a good dad, and one of the ways to be

50:31

a good dad is to have help

50:34

at throwing a tween I can't. Is she

50:36

turning thirteen? Seems

50:38

birthday party? Like very few

50:41

dads. There are dads out there that would

50:43

be great at it, but some would not be Luke

50:46

in particular. So I thought good

50:49

that he called Loralai and they are a team,

50:51

right. There's also things that Luke is very

50:54

good at that Lorali isn't,

50:56

So I see a real balance

50:58

today. Yeah,

51:01

and like there's plenty of things that she needs from him,

51:04

and it's nice that he needs something from

51:06

her. But I also understand what everyone's

51:08

saying is that it would have been nice if

51:11

he wanted her to meet April,

51:14

not in a desperate moment like okay,

51:17

now it's time. So you

51:20

know, the other thing is kind of like everything

51:23

got thrown out the window, all his reasons for

51:26

not letting April and

51:28

laurall I be together, all of a sudden,

51:30

they're just gone. So I thought that was a little bit

51:32

quick for me too. Poof now it's

51:34

just all fine, So.

51:36

This is the This is the writer's trick,

51:38

right, the writer's trick, and rought writers

51:40

know, and what studios no, what

51:42

networks? Now, if you give the fans

51:45

everything they want when they want it, they get bored.

51:49

So they're just toying with us. Right, we're

51:51

having this discussion because the writing

51:53

is so good because they're not given they're making

51:56

us wait, they're making us long for it. They're

51:59

creating contra versy. They

52:01

are giving us characters with flaws.

52:05

So if we're sitting around watching perfect characters,

52:08

nobody's gonna watch that for long, right, People

52:11

with no flaws are really boring. How are you gonna watch

52:13

that?

52:14

Right?

52:14

So this is just this is just really

52:16

solid writing, you know anyway?

52:20

All right, So that's

52:23

it. He's not allowing her

52:27

to throw the party. Uh, now

52:29

we're with Then the next scene

52:32

is Luke and Anna at the diner and Ana

52:34

throwing Luke's and vibes. There

52:36

were vibes getting tossed. You could feel that he was

52:38

getting it all over them and he

52:41

didn't. He kind of

52:43

realized it, and it made him wake up

52:45

a little bit and look at her a little different way.

52:47

And it was a very Smiley, very energetic

52:51

scene, but there was energy going yeah, I act

52:53

there was. They were they were connecting again

52:57

and it was on multiple levels, and it

52:59

was like I written down here, Oh

53:02

things are about to get interested.

53:04

I noticed it just a tiny bit. I'd

53:06

say, like maybe like they were more just like

53:09

getting along, but

53:12

you can interpret it however you want.

53:13

They were really they were

53:16

really getting along. This

53:18

was like they were meeting for the first time and they

53:20

really liked each other, but you know, they couldn't

53:23

show it yet.

53:26

Yeah, I'm interested if that's what everyone

53:29

else thinks, like.

53:30

This is the beginning, This is the beginning

53:33

of a second chance for the two of them, and

53:37

Lorli getting called into the rescue.

53:40

Uh put a stop to that. Good

53:44

right now?

53:46

I don't I'm undecided on that. I'm interested

53:49

what everyone listening thinks on that,

53:51

because.

53:52

I wasn't asking your opinion. I'm just stating fact.

53:54

No, no, no, I'm not giving my opinion.

53:56

What I'm saying is I am very curious

53:59

though. I'm curious what Pete

54:01

if everyone else interpreted

54:03

it the same, Because now I'm torn.

54:05

I'm like, all

54:17

right, now we're back at the Dragonfly, and I think

54:19

this doesn't track. This is the one

54:22

scene that didn't track for me is

54:24

Michelle redesigning

54:27

the Dragonflying website the giant

54:29

picture of his face with

54:32

the tackiest idea that

54:34

would never come from Michelle.

54:37

Okay, I feel like they just needed to give him

54:39

something for the scene.

54:40

But mister Good Taste of

54:44

the World his world title of having

54:46

the best taste of any human being in the

54:48

world, and he makes

54:51

this tacky the weird

54:54

takeover of his giant face

54:56

as the cover of the website,

55:01

and you click his ear, you click his nose, you

55:03

get the retivations, you click

55:05

his tongue, you get something.

55:07

That's like the weird Gilmore comedy

55:09

that's sort of funny and sort of.

55:10

Like what.

55:13

Unnecessary. It

55:16

didn't do anything for the plot. It just was

55:18

like, oh, we need to get him into

55:20

a scene, so let's just throw this one in.

55:22

And no one's actually making a website like

55:24

that with their face on.

55:25

It, No they're not. And just get

55:27

through the phone call with.

55:28

R I was going to say, all you needed was the phone

55:30

call. We could have skipped them a shell.

55:32

Part, but you could have could But it's

55:34

always good to see Michelle, but didn't

55:37

track. For me. Uh.

55:40

This is when Laurlai takes

55:42

the call and uh Roy

55:45

tells it Logan, it's been in an accident, and lurla

55:47

I again steps up and she's super

55:50

mom and can I send you or him a

55:52

care package?

55:53

You know what's weird? Why didn't she like,

55:55

I feel like Lorlai would go.

56:00

Or he's not her just Logan.

56:01

No.

56:02

But now that you say it, Danielle, I actually agree with you. I didn't

56:04

think about it before.

56:05

Yeah.

56:05

I think she would have said do you need me to come help?

56:08

And would have said right now, yeah?

56:11

But can we talk about his

56:13

injuries? A punctured lung, six

56:15

broken ribs, internal bleeding, contusions

56:18

and concussion and was in a coma.

56:22

Wow. So

56:24

what I have written here is, uh,

56:28

does Logan have a death wish? I

56:31

think he does. I

56:33

think subconsciously he does. He's always

56:35

jumping off of things and

56:38

now he's jumped off the wrong thing with

56:40

the wrong equipment, and he was drunk

56:42

when he did it.

56:43

Was it's like to escape his issues

56:45

with his dad.

56:46

This is a guy in serious crisis

56:50

and he's masking it with all that charm

56:52

and all that bravado and all the money and

56:54

all the parties and all that stuff. He's in deep,

56:57

deep pain. If you jump off of a cliff

57:00

and you're drunk with a little throwaway

57:02

parachute like that, you

57:05

really are living on the edge. You don't really

57:07

want to live. So what

57:10

do you guys think of that?

57:14

I think he's an idiot college kid doing daredevil

57:16

crap and yeah, I mean backfire.

57:19

He just he's still in that

57:21

age group where people think they're indestructible

57:23

and then nothing bad.

57:24

Is going to happen.

57:25

And his friends are all the same way too.

57:28

Yeah, so idiotic the social circle.

57:30

And yeah, it's like not. I mean,

57:32

I think he tries to escape things like his

57:35

dad and his relationship with Rory.

57:37

That's why he like went on the trip. But I think

57:39

everyone around him is encouraging it as well.

57:42

So it's just like a part

57:44

of the club, you

57:46

know.

57:48

Yeah, because after that Martha's Vineyard weekend

57:50

when his dad was like, you know, you're graduating

57:53

and you're going to London, So he's like trying to.

57:54

Get all the last minute partying in the right.

57:58

Control, right mm

58:00

hmm, Poor little rich boy.

58:02

She looked hurt though, I'm telling you, I know, I

58:05

said it once already. They really made him look

58:07

made that gash on his cheek was very.

58:09

Realistic, really looked.

58:11

It almost was like was he hurt? Like

58:15

and then they just worked it in and I'm.

58:16

Like, oh so

58:20

anyway, Uh, now we're back at uh

58:23

Luke's and uh he

58:27

delivers the oh he.

58:32

Speech.

58:35

No he didn't give the now

58:40

the parties it died, the birthday parties that did.

58:42

These girls are sitting around playing cards.

58:45

Uh so

58:48

bad.

58:49

I felt like I was watching like you know when you're

58:51

on an airplane and they give you the safety

58:53

instructions. It's like everybody, there

58:55

are two exits on each.

58:57

Side, right right. Yeah,

59:00

I think I think Luke delivered a

59:02

pretty funny speech there. I

59:05

actually rewounded a couple of times and I was

59:07

laughing. It was pretty good. Uh. But

59:11

then now we're the party

59:14

is a dud because everybody needs to use the

59:16

bathroom and binds us out

59:18

in the area.

59:21

It's like, who needs to go to the bathroom and every

59:24

girl.

59:25

Up and then he calls Laurel

59:27

I saying I'm in a panic. This is

59:30

a dud. It's I'm blowing it. Help

59:32

me, help me, help me, And he says,

59:34

well, what are we they doing now? And he looks through

59:36

people and she goes, well, how you seeing him? He's got

59:38

a people in the wall, and she goes. And then he

59:40

says and he delivers, and this

59:43

is going to be my favorite line. I

59:46

do not have time for any weird

59:48

jokes.

59:49

That was actually just so funny. That

59:52

was so funny.

59:56

So she says, get a radio from upstairs,

59:59

turns in case he won a wan uh,

1:00:02

and I'll be there in a minute. And so

1:00:05

she and

1:00:09

then does she show She does show up.

1:00:11

Yeah, she shows up. But remember he's like, you didn't bring.

1:00:13

Anything, didn't bring anything? No, I got

1:00:15

this, And they're going back and forth.

1:00:17

You Laurel I shows up, asked

1:00:20

everybody to get in the line, hold hands,

1:00:22

and then they go outside.

1:00:24

And they just snakes

1:00:27

the street.

1:00:28

That must have been so funny to film.

1:00:32

Yes, is this really wise?

1:00:34

To serpentine?

1:00:39

It's so funny and cute. And I like that she

1:00:41

doesn't I told you so him?

1:00:43

Do you know what I mean?

1:00:44

She's like, you know what?

1:00:45

You got it?

1:00:46

And no questions asked either. Like honestly,

1:00:48

if I was Lauraai, I would have been like, no, you

1:00:51

said you could do this? Without me. You're doing it without

1:00:53

me, and she she just showed

1:00:55

up and.

1:00:57

And she's stoked, like.

1:00:59

It was great. It was cute that

1:01:01

like once they got the store, everything was ready.

1:01:03

So she's probably like stopped by it before or like called

1:01:06

and yeah, she thought ahead. She was

1:01:08

on her feet.

1:01:09

Yeah.

1:01:09

That Beauty Supply always makes me think of what's

1:01:11

her name? Oh, Yane, Shane, Jane

1:01:15

and Kirk there sometimes too. Beauty

1:01:18

Supply gets a lot of action. Yeah,

1:01:21

more than one would think, more than the bookstore, like

1:01:23

the local Sephora.

1:01:25

Yeah. Good, good, So

1:01:28

really coming through being

1:01:31

a hero. Then

1:01:34

we're at the hospital again. Rory

1:01:36

calls Mitcham Huntsburg.

1:01:38

Yeah, I actually have.

1:01:40

The finds out. Logan says,

1:01:42

well, yeah, well she's talking to Logan's

1:01:44

sister and they're flying in from

1:01:46

his Stanbul or someplace. Yeah, yeah,

1:01:48

yeah, waiting for a connection. And no,

1:01:52

listen, Rory, you know, no, his

1:01:54

dad is not going to go see him. He doesn't approve

1:01:56

of the Life and Death Brigade. He thought Logan

1:01:59

would grow out of it at this point.

1:02:02

And no, he's not visiting his son.

1:02:05

My thing with that is Mitcham

1:02:07

was in the Life and Death brigade

1:02:10

the whole time he was in college. And she says,

1:02:12

and and he still is in college.

1:02:15

So that was my flag of like, how

1:02:17

would he grow out of it if like he's still in the

1:02:20

in the mix of it all? Do you know what I mean?

1:02:21

Like?

1:02:22

Right, well, I think Mitcham just.

1:02:23

Is just because because

1:02:26

I think Mitcham didn't have a rich

1:02:28

daddy to to step into

1:02:31

a role of response because it was the.

1:02:32

Other No, I thought the Huntsburgers have money

1:02:35

also, yeah, a

1:02:37

lot. It was her

1:02:39

mother had, her father had money too, leanne

1:02:43

she was like a cocktail waitress or something.

1:02:45

Yeah.

1:02:46

So then it was that old grandpa at the dinner.

1:02:48

That's Mitch. Hunsburger

1:02:51

had money.

1:02:51

Yeah.

1:02:52

Yeah. Did they have the newspaper empire

1:02:54

at that Yeah?

1:02:54

I think they had like hundreds of millions.

1:02:57

Yeah, they're like old money. Yeah they got

1:02:59

there, they're rich.

1:03:00

All right, Well, I sit corrected.

1:03:02

I thought we were calling Mitcham. I have that that line

1:03:04

ready when we.

1:03:05

Get to it.

1:03:06

Well, yeah, I mean, what

1:03:09

a great phone call. I mean Rory stepping

1:03:11

up and being a hero and saying

1:03:13

the words that every parent needs

1:03:16

to hear.

1:03:16

Here's what she says, mitcham Hunsberger.

1:03:19

Yes, it's Rory Gilmour. I just thought

1:03:21

i'd call and remind you that Logan is lying in a hospital

1:03:23

bed with a partially collapse lung and a whole host of other

1:03:26

potentially life threatening injuries. And I'm figuring

1:03:28

a guy like you, surrounded by nothing but a bunch of terrified

1:03:30

sycophants, might not have something, might not

1:03:33

have someone in his life with the guts to tell him what an incredibly

1:03:35

selfish, narcissistic ass he's being. So

1:03:37

I thought I'd jump on in, swallow your pride,

1:03:39

getting your car and come down here and see your son.

1:03:42

Now, nice, beautiful.

1:03:45

So many times I wanted Rory to stand up to people,

1:03:47

and she finally.

1:03:50

She got even you know, beautiful,

1:03:53

beautiful scene. And

1:03:56

for all you self obsessed narcissistic's

1:03:59

parents out there, let this be a lesson. Okay,

1:04:03

now we're back at Luke's and

1:04:07

I just wrote down here, Laurel

1:04:10

I is just she has a black belt in life.

1:04:13

You know, she's really good at life,

1:04:15

and she's really good with kids, and she's

1:04:18

just a dream who

1:04:21

shouted out bad idea hagrid. Oh

1:04:24

yeah, they called it referred to luc

1:04:26

As Hagrid.

1:04:28

That was so good.

1:04:30

I forgot about that until you.

1:04:32

Just brought it up. What was Luke's

1:04:34

idea? Luke had an idea to do something

1:04:36

and somebody shouted out bad idea, Hagrid.

1:04:40

She wait until the next day to open

1:04:43

her presence. He thought she was

1:04:45

going to open that weird bathroom set, not

1:04:48

knowing that Laurrela I had switched out.

1:04:50

He got heckled by the by the kids.

1:04:52

It was really funny. So

1:04:56

that's when.

1:04:58

She was just saying that Anna

1:05:00

was saying that they called

1:05:03

him Hagrid. Yeah, because

1:05:06

he was the least embarrassing parent on the trip.

1:05:08

Right, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right

1:05:10

right right.

1:05:13

So this is when Laura l I suggests

1:05:15

a sleepover and a slumber party, and

1:05:17

Luke says, yeah, but Joe have to call your parents

1:05:20

and get approval, right, And then he goes behind

1:05:22

the counter and he says, everybody line

1:05:24

up. This is the We see them all get on their cell

1:05:26

phones, stand up and walk in different directions,

1:05:29

get on their cell phones to call their parents at the same time. And he's

1:05:31

trying to get everybody cueue up behind the diner and

1:05:33

he sees that.

1:05:38

I just love that the sign is still there and

1:05:41

the phone's right by the no cell phone sign and

1:05:44

turns around and they're all their phones.

1:05:46

Good good comedy stuff for Luke, I'll

1:05:48

tell yeah, form

1:05:51

a single file line. And

1:05:53

then there's a nice little scene of the

1:05:55

girls downstairs having fun

1:05:58

and doing Harry Potter Chance or whatever they

1:06:00

were doing, and Luke

1:06:02

not being able to sleep.

1:06:03

Light is a feather stiff as a board. Oh

1:06:06

yeah, I

1:06:08

used to do that all the time. I brought back

1:06:10

some memories for sure, yep.

1:06:12

And I think that was a nice moment.

1:06:14

And that's a very dad moment. Yeah,

1:06:17

the dad's always like trying to sleep during the sleepover.

1:06:20

But the thing is is there was you know, the thought

1:06:22

was, what is my future going to

1:06:24

be? Am I going

1:06:27

to be with Laurel? I? Is this going to work

1:06:29

out? And I miss I miss

1:06:32

Laurel I in a sense, you know what I mean. I thought

1:06:34

that was a nice little full moment

1:06:37

there for him. Anyway.

1:06:41

That's what I tried to do with the moment, as I recall,

1:06:43

and I don't know if I accomplished it.

1:06:44

Uh.

1:06:46

All right, We're back at the Dragonfly and

1:06:49

Laurel I arrives in the kitchen and hands

1:06:51

Suki some Bonnie Bell lip

1:06:54

smackers.

1:06:57

The Doctor Peper was my favorite.

1:07:00

Anything anything from

1:07:03

lip smackers anything m.

1:07:04

Hm where they have flavors

1:07:06

I don't even know what.

1:07:07

Oh yeah.

1:07:08

And then you would get this pack of like ten and it would all

1:07:10

be like different, like sparkly killers, and there's

1:07:13

still.

1:07:14

Like so super sticky.

1:07:16

It was like really thick, and they

1:07:18

for sure just kept your lips chopped.

1:07:20

But yeah that

1:07:23

you smelled good. Yeah, like something,

1:07:25

the spray the Doctor Pepper one.

1:07:28

I sat them in a stalking Christmas stalking

1:07:30

this year.

1:07:31

They still sell them totally. I

1:07:34

just related to that scene a lot. To just

1:07:37

open the back.

1:07:39

That's my measuring stick. Nobody take it.

1:07:42

Oh well

1:07:45

you better hope I call on you first, all

1:07:57

right. And then now we're back in the diner

1:08:00

and Anna storms in. She

1:08:03

she really gives it to old Lukie. Oh no, no

1:08:06

is this yeah? No, yeah, this

1:08:08

is the diner or is.

1:08:09

This yea upstairs in the apartment

1:08:12

She did in the apartment.

1:08:13

Yeah, yeah, So she reads

1:08:15

him the riot act man, what'd you guys? I

1:08:17

think we all we discussed this. We know how

1:08:21

you know, everybody knows how we feel about this.

1:08:23

We don't need to, but she really

1:08:25

brings the guy.

1:08:26

Can I read a couple of her lines?

1:08:29

Sure? She

1:08:32

said you wanted to throw her a party? Luke,

1:08:34

you? And then Luke said,

1:08:36

I know I did, Anna goes. No, you

1:08:39

had your girlfriend throw her a party, A girlfriend I don't

1:08:41

even know, a girlfriend I've never met.

1:08:43

This is not our agreement.

1:08:45

Shut up, Anna, How

1:08:48

am.

1:08:48

I supposed to explain this? How am I supposed to explain

1:08:50

that to the other girl's parents? How am I supposed to

1:08:52

tell them that I left their kids all alone with the

1:08:54

woman I've never met, who already know.

1:08:56

Because they call.

1:08:57

Well, And she's not saying that any parents have actually

1:09:00

complained. She's just like trying

1:09:02

to think of something to be mad about. Correct, No parents

1:09:04

are going to complain.

1:09:05

He's not angry about that. She's angry that

1:09:07

she's I have.

1:09:08

To know where she's She's

1:09:10

wish always.

1:09:12

He's angry at throwing sunshine at Luke.

1:09:14

And then first of all, Anna, oh,

1:09:16

I have to know where she is at all times? Okay,

1:09:19

did you know when she came to the diner

1:09:21

and yanked my hair out exactly?

1:09:24

Anna?

1:09:25

Like rolling around town pulling out men's

1:09:27

hair.

1:09:30

It's kind of a good point, a

1:09:33

good he's not like that, he's

1:09:35

not snappy back like that.

1:09:37

He doesn't need to say it. I'm saying it to everybody

1:09:40

else. Then she sent her

1:09:42

kid on a ten day school trip with

1:09:45

a dude she hasn't really talked

1:09:47

to in twelve years. Like that

1:09:51

wasn't good enough to know about

1:09:53

the kid? Like that also seems very.

1:09:56

Odd to me.

1:09:57

It's inconsistent, thank you.

1:09:59

That's the word I've looking for. Inconsistent.

1:10:02

All right, So now we get

1:10:04

to the hospital and lo

1:10:07

and behold who shows up at the hospital.

1:10:09

Mitchell Mitcham Hansberger.

1:10:12

Who is I mean, let's give

1:10:14

it to Greg Henry, a master of nonverbal

1:10:17

communication.

1:10:18

Yeah, I mean, I won't say it, but he really

1:10:20

reminds me of somebody who he

1:10:24

doesn't remind you all of a former president?

1:10:27

For some reason?

1:10:28

Which president? Who? The

1:10:31

one?

1:10:32

The one we just had before this one? Yeah,

1:10:34

for some reason, Greg Henry slash Mitcham

1:10:36

is so trumpy to me. I

1:10:39

don't know why, just.

1:10:40

Saying needed a little more hair

1:10:43

fluff to consider that.

1:10:44

I don't know what.

1:10:48

And now we are back at

1:10:51

Laurla and Luke's house. I guess it's both

1:10:53

their houses.

1:10:54

Oh yeah, you know, thank you for bringing

1:10:56

this up, Scott. I was glad he

1:10:58

told her what happened. I

1:11:00

didn't need him to not tell her. So

1:11:03

kudos to Luke. II.

1:11:05

I agree with that.

1:11:06

Yeah. So they're having Chinese food. He tells her that

1:11:08

Anna's pissed and it's

1:11:10

a big trust to shoot and I'm just glad.

1:11:14

Yeah he said sorry. I

1:11:16

I liked that she said sorry

1:11:18

because she felt bad, but she

1:11:21

just was doing the right thing. So I actually

1:11:23

that scene I actually liked m

1:11:27

I thought they were getting along fine

1:11:30

and dealing with challenges.

1:11:32

Fine, right, Okay,

1:11:34

I'm just texting Amy now she'll be

1:11:36

relieved me.

1:11:39

No, no, Amy, Oh

1:11:42

good, approves of this scene.

1:11:45

Hang on, Amy says back, thank god,

1:11:47

all right.

1:11:48

Yeah, thank you so much.

1:11:51

Uh, Logan and Rory.

1:11:56

Real hard to hurt there.

1:11:57

This was really nice, right, This was

1:11:59

like I wrote down, she really loves

1:12:01

him.

1:12:02

Yeah, finally we're threw them up right

1:12:05

exactly, which I was ready for.

1:12:07

Right right. It's kind of perfect timing.

1:12:09

And I think a lot of these storylines

1:12:12

got tied up and elevated

1:12:14

in this episode, which was I think it was so effective

1:12:17

yeah, yeah, yeah, And

1:12:21

I guess this is where

1:12:24

we see everybody's kind of growing up or trying

1:12:26

to grow up or or really move beyond

1:12:28

where they were and declare

1:12:31

and love each other and trust each

1:12:33

other. It started getting emotional here for

1:12:36

me. And then our

1:12:38

final scene, we have a Laurel

1:12:40

I and Anna. You know, Laurel I goes

1:12:43

to Anna's shop.

1:12:44

What do you think of her going there?

1:12:48

I liked I kind of liked

1:12:50

it.

1:12:50

I like that it was a person not a phone

1:12:53

call. I actually did like that.

1:12:54

Yes, I think it's a stand up move. I

1:12:56

think it's a real stand up move by

1:12:59

somebody who wants to take responsibility, wants

1:13:02

to meet the person wants to make things right,

1:13:04

doesn't want to be a source of friction

1:13:07

between Anna, April and

1:13:09

Luke.

1:13:10

And also like, look at me, this is

1:13:13

what you're nervous about or what you were afraid

1:13:15

of right or whatever. You know, Like it's

1:13:17

me. You don't have to worry about me,

1:13:20

you know exactly.

1:13:21

She I think she she did it for all

1:13:23

the right reasons. I think I was.

1:13:25

I do I do wish that Lorala

1:13:28

I said before Anna had

1:13:30

to prompt your like, hey, I'm a single mom

1:13:32

too. I wish that she had said that, like, I'm

1:13:35

so sorry. I understand I'm also a

1:13:37

single mom, because the only reason why she said it

1:13:40

is because Anna's like, well, I'm a single mom, and

1:13:42

She's like, well I am, like you know what I mean. I wish she

1:13:44

kind of walked and saying like, hey, I understand

1:13:46

your frustrations because I also

1:13:49

was in the same situation you're in.

1:13:53

Yeah, yeah, Susanne, you're

1:13:56

jumping out of your skin right now.

1:13:57

No. I was just gonna say I give

1:13:59

her props for going

1:14:02

and trying to have an adult

1:14:04

conversation with Anna about the situation.

1:14:07

I do wish she hadn't.

1:14:11

Been so sheepish about it and taking

1:14:13

oh, the whole.

1:14:14

Thing was my fault.

1:14:15

I'm so sorry, because it wasn't her

1:14:17

fault.

1:14:17

Brought her in.

1:14:19

She saved the day, Like Laura,

1:14:22

I was the hero that

1:14:24

day, and I don't

1:14:26

like that everybody's trying to make her feel

1:14:29

bad about it. And I feel the

1:14:31

same way about the scene where they're eating the Chinese

1:14:33

food and you know Luke she was.

1:14:35

She apologized to Luke and she said I'm sorry

1:14:38

and he's like, yeah, I'm sorry too. Like there

1:14:41

Why is everybody trying to make her feel bad about

1:14:43

this? Like none of this was her fault.

1:14:45

I don't think, and I think I think

1:14:47

Laurlai finds herself in the middle

1:14:49

of a difficult situation where there's really

1:14:52

strong feelings flying around, and she's being the bigger

1:14:54

person. She knows that she's not responsible

1:14:57

for all of these bad feelings.

1:14:59

It's she's just being a good person, doing

1:15:01

the right thing in this situation. But she's

1:15:04

taken the heat because she's being the bigger person

1:15:06

in that situation. She's being the bigger person to

1:15:08

Anna, going face to face and being

1:15:11

spectacular and great.

1:15:13

I don't I think she did

1:15:15

great with Luke. I think saying sorry

1:15:18

is okay because she's saying I'm sorry that happened

1:15:20

to you, I'm sorry, this is messy,

1:15:23

I'm sorry. Right that part I was fine.

1:15:25

I don't think she should have gone to the store. I think

1:15:27

it really thought about it, but I think she should have

1:15:29

gone.

1:15:30

To the store. I think it really proves how much she

1:15:32

loves Luke by going to that store.

1:15:34

I think she should have said things. I

1:15:37

think it's a really super advanced

1:15:39

adult move.

1:15:40

It's just a little bit of an overstep. I

1:15:43

think she should have said to Luke, why don't

1:15:45

we go and try and talk

1:15:47

to Anna? Now now that I've

1:15:50

met April, you and I are in this together, we're

1:15:52

engaged, why don't we go and

1:15:54

meet April, I mean, sorry, meet Anna so

1:15:56

she can get to know me. To

1:15:59

me going on her own, not telling

1:16:01

Luke she was going that

1:16:04

would be very jarring for me, no matter who

1:16:06

I was. If I'm putting myself in anna shoes

1:16:09

suddenly, the girlfriends there

1:16:11

would just be very jarring.

1:16:12

I mean, she

1:16:15

tell Luke.

1:16:16

I think we're to assume she didn't tell Luke because

1:16:18

I think if she would have said to Luke, he would have said, no, no,

1:16:20

no, don't do that.

1:16:21

Do you think there's a part of Laurel I that was going

1:16:23

over there to mark her territory with anything

1:16:26

like that's my guy, and here I

1:16:28

am and I'm real and I exist. I don't

1:16:30

deal with me. Do you think that undercurrent

1:16:33

there? No?

1:16:33

I didn't. I just thought she was going to say like, hey,

1:16:36

I'm sorry, this happened, I'm sorry, this got

1:16:38

messy. I'm in it. Your

1:16:41

kid, kid's great, I'm gonna I want

1:16:43

you to meet me. And know that I too

1:16:45

have a kid. I'm going to take great care of your kid.

1:16:47

Have anything to worry about. You'll never have Luke.

1:16:50

He's mine. Bye Bye, nice meeting.

1:16:52

No, I didn't.

1:16:53

I don't think I don't.

1:16:55

I'm not saying other people might not see

1:16:58

that, but I don't.

1:16:59

I think she was trying to again,

1:17:02

like you said, Scott, she loves Luke

1:17:04

so much, and she was hoping that if she went and

1:17:06

worked things out with Anna, then Anna wouldn't

1:17:08

be pissed at Luke anymore, right, and

1:17:10

everybody could just be happy. I think that's

1:17:13

what she was trying to fix. I

1:17:15

didn't think it was like a passive aggressive thing.

1:17:17

In the real world though, that's not a move I would

1:17:19

make.

1:17:22

Catch. I don't

1:17:24

know if this was an error on the

1:17:26

writer's part, or if Chryline

1:17:29

Fenn didn't said said

1:17:31

the line wrong, which I'm sure they would have made her do

1:17:33

twenty takes if she said it wrong. But

1:17:36

she said she made a comment about

1:17:38

how April doesn't meet people

1:17:41

that she's dating. And she said she made

1:17:43

some comment about when I get married married

1:17:45

again.

1:17:46

I think we're to assume she was married once.

1:17:49

She said so, basically, until I'm ready

1:17:51

to get married again. She doesn't meet any of the men I

1:17:53

date.

1:17:54

Interesting, where's the again coming from?

1:17:57

Like, where have we ever heard about Anna being

1:17:59

married?

1:18:00

There's the information we do not have. There's

1:18:03

a lot of information we don't know about this. It's

1:18:05

not it's not filled in for us.

1:18:07

It could be a reason.

1:18:08

Still doesn't there you go nodn't

1:18:18

that's fine? Why doesn't want

1:18:21

Laura I involved? It's still I

1:18:23

still don't have a reason why we're giving this woman

1:18:26

so much leeway on the fact

1:18:29

that she took the kid away. I'm just saying that's where

1:18:31

I'm like.

1:18:31

Wait, what, but what did she started

1:18:34

dating somebody new and she told that new

1:18:36

person that I was their kid?

1:18:37

Oh, well, then she's

1:18:40

worse.

1:18:42

It was general

1:18:48

the reason talking about all.

1:18:50

Right, it's a Pretty in Pink that they watched

1:18:53

Pretty in Pink.

1:18:55

Yeah, And the Molly Ringwald

1:18:57

speech was really funny.

1:19:00

About Mollie Ringwold because Molly and Lauren

1:19:02

were in a show together before Gilmore

1:19:05

Girls.

1:19:05

That's right, that's right, that's right.

1:19:09

And we also got to see like a real quick glimpse

1:19:11

of Kirk in that scene when he was setting up the.

1:19:13

Movie yeah, yeah,

1:19:16

he didn't steal the episode, And.

1:19:19

There's sort of a there's a little uh switched

1:19:22

at birth reference to which is kind of

1:19:24

funny that later wait there is well

1:19:26

it's the show hadn't happened yet, but there's

1:19:29

some sort of did

1:19:31

they mix up the babies thing? I'm trying to

1:19:33

remember.

1:19:35

Oh yeah, Rory said that about

1:19:38

she went to the maternity ward in case she wants

1:19:40

to pull a prank and switch.

1:19:42

Switched the babies.

1:19:43

Yeah, yeah, who

1:19:46

do we think let's do a new segment here,

1:19:48

who do we think stole this episode? Whose episode

1:19:50

was this? Susanne?

1:19:54

Uh, you know, I think this was

1:19:57

Luke's episode. I really loved

1:20:00

he was just laying down those rules about

1:20:02

don't go in the restricted area and you'll burn

1:20:04

your face off, and I just I

1:20:07

really enjoyed that.

1:20:08

That was Who do you think I

1:20:10

have to give it to Laura Li for this one?

1:20:13

I don't know. I just feel like there was

1:20:16

especially that last scene for me with

1:20:19

a close second to Rory Danielle

1:20:22

Lauraai a.

1:20:26

Lorli. I mean you know what, look Luke

1:20:28

Lorlai, Rory all a tie Zuker,

1:20:31

all laid up.

1:20:32

Do not know?

1:20:34

I can't stand her. It's

1:20:36

a great episode. Made

1:20:39

me upset, but it's a late episode.

1:20:41

Let's rate it, Susanne, what do you give

1:20:43

it? What's your measuring stick? Okay,

1:20:48

now let's just be clear what Danielle

1:20:50

claimed measuring stick? What was that? Again?

1:20:52

Reminded smackers.

1:20:54

You can't so Lipsmackers is on the

1:20:56

board. This is not an official rule

1:20:59

book. You can use lip smackers if you would like

1:21:01

to.

1:21:01

No, don't take no, I am

1:21:03

not going to use that one.

1:21:05

I'm going to give this respect.

1:21:09

I can't decide. I'm going to give this a seven

1:21:12

point. I'm

1:21:16

telling you, I want to feel happy

1:21:18

when I want. These

1:21:21

episodes are not.

1:21:25

What was your cold bananas?

1:21:28

You took my God, you

1:21:31

gotta.

1:21:31

Claim them, and from now on you cannot

1:21:33

claim. Yeah, you can't

1:21:36

do it. Well, let it slide this time, Tara.

1:21:40

I'm gonna give it a nine

1:21:44

parachutes that didn't open.

1:21:47

These are so good.

1:21:49

Wow, some

1:21:54

of my broken ribs.

1:21:57

You gave up Smackers. But

1:22:01

that's kind of like doing a joke, you

1:22:05

know what I'm saying.

1:22:06

I'm not gonna go with Cass, but.

1:22:09

Nine point nine people's in Luke's

1:22:11

weird bathroom storage closet thing. Excuse

1:22:15

me, your storage closet.

1:22:17

People nine

1:22:19

point nine, nine

1:22:21

point nine or.

1:22:22

Pretty in Pink's whatever you oh nine point nine. Yeah.

1:22:25

I loved the episode. I'm very upset about it, but

1:22:27

doesn't mean I didn't love it.

1:22:29

Yeah.

1:22:29

Uh, I'm going

1:22:31

to give it ten point

1:22:34

zero. Rory furrowed

1:22:37

browse. Oh wow, oh yeah,

1:22:44

did sorry?

1:22:44

Can I throw one more thing in? Did you guys notice

1:22:47

when uh, in

1:22:49

the interval between when Finn and Colin

1:22:52

went to get some of Logan's stuff,

1:22:54

they brought back like everything

1:22:56

from his apartment, like the suit of armor was

1:22:58

in there.

1:23:00

Oh, I did not notice that that

1:23:02

big poster thing.

1:23:03

On the wall.

1:23:04

It was pretty funny. Favorite

1:23:06

line.

1:23:08

A favorite line is when

1:23:10

Kirk said something

1:23:13

about I'm very susceptible to signage.

1:23:19

But Luke had a better line. He said, I'm very

1:23:21

susceptible to people that order things that are on

1:23:23

the menu. So

1:23:26

Tara, so we'll just correct

1:23:28

that in the final version, Yeah,

1:23:31

you're welcome.

1:23:33

It was more. It was more of the scene where

1:23:36

it's Luke saying like all right, like we're gonna get a single

1:23:38

file line and then like he just turns around. It was

1:23:40

more of that scene for me when he just turns

1:23:42

around sees everyone on their phone and no one's

1:23:44

paying attention to him.

1:23:46

Danielle Mine is when

1:23:49

Sukie and Lola were in the beauty shop

1:23:51

and Sukie says, I feel like I'm fifteen again.

1:23:53

Jackson's so getting under my bra tonight.

1:23:56

Oh my god, I

1:23:58

forgotten to have a favorite line. I think I got so

1:24:00

upset that I literally don't have one. So I'll just give a

1:24:02

Ray's speech to Mitcham. I literally

1:24:05

did not take one note during this episode

1:24:07

when I was watching it. I just watched it and was just like,

1:24:10

I'm getting more and more upset. I

1:24:13

feel better after this.

1:24:16

How many more do we have in the season?

1:24:19

I still have to get my line? Hang on? Sorry,

1:24:22

my favorite line? Sorry, I gotta

1:24:24

go with Luke about the peopole

1:24:28

line. I do not have time for

1:24:30

your weird jokes. That was great. I

1:24:32

do not have time for your weird jokes right now. All

1:24:35

right, that's going to wrap it up for us.

1:24:37

Thanks kids, Thanks for downloading.

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Best Fans on the Planet. Next episode

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Miss Gil.

1:24:48

How many more are there in season six?

1:24:49

Sorry? Total?

1:24:51

Two?

1:24:52

More?

1:24:52

Wow? And then We're done. Boy,

1:24:54

it's getting.

1:24:55

Flew through this season.

1:24:57

It doesn't suck, it doesn't strong.

1:25:00

It really is strong. Yeah, anyway,

1:25:04

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