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Hey, everybody, Scott Patterson, I am on.

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No, no, no, don't you want to tell

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people?

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Why?

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Well, I can't not even start over

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you.

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I have a temporary

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tooth in here. I had oral surgery yesterday.

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I'm on on medication

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so I can barely speak, think, keep my eyes

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I'm just it's gonna

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be so good. You guys forgive him.

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He truly had surgery. Yeah,

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yeah, he didn't hit the bar. He didn't

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hit the bar before he came to the.

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Said yesterday, I had a tooth taken out and

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they put an implant in as well. So

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now and then I've kind of I've got I got

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a tooth replaceable too. I can take it

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in. Yeah,

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but that's just that's just for ten

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weeks until they get the permanent crime.

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My mom had to have that. Yeah, you have to do

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it like three you go three times or something.

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Ten weeks is a long time.

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Ten weeks to make the thing. Yeah,

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but anyway, so funny story, I

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did a I woke up

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after I got home. I crashed for a couple of hours,

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and I

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woke up and I was like, there was I

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don't want to gross anybody up, but there was. There's

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blood coming out of my mouth. So it's a streak of

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blood across my and then on my shoulder

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and on my pillow. And

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I woke up and my assistant

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Elaine texted me and said,

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this cameo is expiring in like thirty

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do I did it in that state and I

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and I hit send and

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she you

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caught it. And she's like, she

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texted me this morning. She goes, I hope you don't get

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mad. But I got with the cameo.

2:26

People said you got to take that down. That can't be published

2:29

because he's like way out of it man,

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And I said, well, send me the video. So she sent

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me the video. It's the funniest

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thing.

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You please post it?

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Can we please post it on Instagram?

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Please?

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No? I think it's I think that kind of

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thing is tantamount to, like,

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you know, showing your junk on.

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You do not want that to fall into the wrong hands.

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Wait, so that's not.

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Yeah, did they get it or did it make it to them?

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Like?

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Did they see it?

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They didn't get it. But

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but but Elaine got in touch with them

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and said, listen, we're going to get he has surgery,

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so can you give them an extension? They

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were cool enough to do that, And I made a good one

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today. I mean, I have this thing in my mouth.

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I sounds kind of funny, but

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But I got the plug perfect, right, I perked

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up. That's now I'm

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tired. I'm gonna go to take a nap, amy take off.

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So, okay, before you sleep, you

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did not love this episode?

3:57

Mmm, Look,

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it depends on how you what

4:02

you want out of the show. What you know, Different

4:04

people want different things out of the show. What

4:06

I want out of the show is I

4:09

like, I like my chuckles, I like I like

4:11

the laugh. For me, the power of the show

4:13

is getting the great laughs. And I got some good.

4:15

Laught a couple. Yeah, yeah, I agree, you know.

4:18

And so I don't want to I don't want to rag on

4:20

the show too bad, but I

4:23

mean, I don't.

4:24

Get it out of the way so that we can talk

4:26

about the episode. Let's just address

4:29

quickly the assault, the

4:32

cultural appropriation, so that we've

4:35

we've addressed that at the top, so that as we

4:37

talk about the episode, we maybe can

4:40

talk about it without having to feel

4:42

cringey over this salt.

4:43

I mean, luke bashing. That's

4:46

actually battery. That's not assault.

4:49

It was I battered him.

4:51

It was not cool.

4:53

Yes, it was super cursed. It

4:56

was super cool. Yeah, let's recap. I

4:58

mean, let's uh, let's synopsizepis.

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Oh, yes, good call, Suzanne. You sure

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I'll do it.

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This is season seven, episode two.

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That's what you get, folks from making whoopee.

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It aired on October third, two thousand

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and six. Wanting

5:15

to cheer Rory up and take her mind off

5:17

missing Logan. Lorelei turns her house into

5:20

an Asian themed wonderland, meanwhile

5:23

repairing the damage to the diner. Luke tells

5:25

TJ about his breakup and insists

5:27

on him talking about it with Liz, and

5:30

Luke returns from her disastrous honeymoon

5:32

with surprising news.

5:34

Now, who in a million years ever

5:36

thought that they would witness an episode

5:39

of this very fine show where

5:42

one of the most beloved and

5:45

funny and endearing characters sits

5:48

there and says, I hate sex. I

5:50

hate sex. I hate sex, and

5:52

now I'm pregnant and I hate sex even

5:54

more than I hate sex. I hate hate sex,

5:56

sex as awful as gross. I hate

5:59

sex.

6:00

It's never happening again.

6:01

It was like, what did the

6:04

pharmacist give me post

6:07

surgery on my truth?

6:10

Am I really witnessing this?

6:12

Did anybody else feel like the episode was

6:15

so disjointed?

6:16

Yes?

6:17

Yeah, yeah, that was my problem.

6:18

I'm like, I'm a fan of this episode.

6:21

It had like a few moments

6:23

where I'm like, I'm driving, I like,

6:25

I like my Gilmore girls, And then I was like, is

6:27

this twelve different episodes?

6:29

I think?

6:30

Also, of course they made Lane pregnant

6:33

like of course, right,

6:35

I don't know.

6:35

I'm just like, and she got pregnant in two days.

6:38

Lane's whole storyline throughout

6:41

this entire series has just made

6:45

me so dumbfounded.

6:47

I'm just it's never been what it

6:49

could have been.

6:50

You, it could have been so much more.

6:52

No, I think what was truly odd

6:55

about this episode right

6:57

away? You know. I

6:59

I I pushed

7:02

my theory over the last few

7:04

podcasts about how this show isn't

7:07

capable of such a heavy lift as to break

7:09

up Look and Laurel. I. Right, I think it proved

7:11

it at the top of this, you know, because

7:14

it was as if Luke

7:16

was going through something and he was trying

7:18

to gut it out and it was

7:20

showing in his behavior towards TJ. And thank

7:23

god for TJ, because boy, he provide

7:25

some levity here. And

7:27

then we cut to Laurel I, who's sort of matter

7:29

of factly going about her life and she's got to get

7:31

to work and it doesn't doesn't really seem

7:33

to be affecting her very much, to the point

7:36

where she's you know, pulls the

7:38

the Geisha gag and the home

7:40

and with all the five hundred thousand dollars

7:42

worth of Autremont

7:44

from Asia, and it was just like, what

7:47

is happening here? And

7:50

I know there was a you know when they meet and Luke's

7:52

try and play it cool. But if she isn't deep

7:55

word, did you? But the thing is,

7:57

did you guys feel that Laurel I was so deeply

7:59

affected by the break up.

8:01

I thought the whole thing was so weird until the end.

8:04

Until the end, Yeah.

8:05

I thought the crosswalk scene was bizarre

8:07

and the grocery store bizarre,

8:10

like shot bizarrely in weird

8:13

locations we've never seen before.

8:14

Like I also didn't feel like a Gilmore Girls

8:17

grocery store like that is Ralph's Los

8:19

Angeles.

8:23

It was Whole Foods in Bourbank, like.

8:27

Just clearly driving through Sherman Oaks just

8:29

like I'm

8:32

like, yeah,

8:36

driving scenes, there's like driving

8:38

the truck close up, just are we in

8:40

Encino yet? Like I just like.

8:44

I think for me, the disconnect is

8:46

that the b storyline with Lane

8:48

just it shouldn't have been placed

8:51

with this a storyline.

8:52

I think that's what it is. Like if it was, it

8:55

was, it's just different than

8:57

the thing.

8:58

Well, I agree, but I'm saying, if

9:00

they want to put it somewhere. It shouldn't have been with this

9:02

Luke Lorelei storyline.

9:04

It should have been an A storyline too.

9:07

It's an afterthought, right, it's

9:09

right, And it's so tone for what the

9:11

fans invested in, what they really want.

9:14

It's like, Okay, if you're going to do this, try to

9:16

do this heavy lift, then deal with it,

9:18

deal with the relationship, deal with the fallout

9:21

of it. There was really very little

9:23

of that.

9:23

And if you're going to do this amazing like pregnancy

9:26

reveal, do it better.

9:29

Yeah, but I agree with terror, don't

9:31

do it at all. It didn't belong.

9:33

Yeah. Yeah.

9:34

The only the only part

9:37

of the episode that I even smiled

9:40

at was the whole Kirk's

9:42

diner.

9:43

That was.

9:45

And but that was such a small part of the episode.

9:47

That was like the c storyline, Like.

9:51

It was just so for me that

9:54

it wasn't really executed very well either,

9:56

because Luke is

9:58

dealing with this his heavy heart

10:00

and trying to get over it, and then he comes over and

10:02

he's doing light comedy with

10:05

Kirk and.

10:06

It's unhinged about it.

10:08

He wasn't right.

10:09

It's like, let me grew up your paper.

10:13

Right if you're if you're going to provoke.

10:15

It's like, that's the thing. What kind

10:17

of a show is it? What is it is?

10:19

It is like Luke should have driven through his

10:22

dining.

10:31

Well, can we talk about the beginning

10:33

where look, it was funny

10:36

and also it was battery that

10:38

Luke. So we see, So this

10:40

is why I got confused. You start the episode with

10:43

the recap of what happened,

10:45

and you see him with the truck and she says,

10:47

I slept with Christopher, and then we open

10:50

on him driving away, which was kind of a nice sort

10:52

of like moments later

10:54

and we see him driving and

10:56

driving and immediately you're like,

10:59

I know where he is going. Knock

11:01

knock, suck him in the in

11:03

the face. I think

11:05

about David Suckcliffe probably got his full episode

11:08

b for just taking a punch. It's

11:12

never in it again.

11:13

You know what that scene was. That was

11:15

an ending scene that wasn't a beginning. It

11:18

was weird and also it was very

11:21

odd that that scene happened.

11:23

And then the theme song hits You're supposed

11:26

to be happy, Yeah, that's.

11:27

What I thought too.

11:29

I mean, I don't know if you guys

11:32

agree or not. I didn't mind

11:34

it because I just feel like Christopher deserved

11:36

that punch after like all that he's been

11:38

through. But again, it should have

11:40

been the end of episode

11:42

one of season seven, not straight

11:44

into the theme song, because then I kept actually

11:47

rewound it because I'm like, where am

11:49

I in this show?

11:50

And he also hate to say it because I want

11:52

to say, oh, Luke wouldn't do that, but Luke

11:54

maybe kind of would.

11:55

Do that, Luke beating

11:57

up on Dean in that one episode. So it

12:00

wasn't really that surprising.

12:01

I just feel like it was a long time coming

12:03

from everything that happened.

12:05

It was like like he just was over I'd

12:07

be over it too.

12:08

That being said, I wasn't totally

12:11

just crazy about it. It's like you go over to

12:13

his house and just punch him in the face, and like,

12:15

really and truly, if anyone

12:18

was to blame, it was just

12:21

opened.

12:21

The door between guys. Okay,

12:24

that was appropriate, that's a that's

12:26

a guy thing. That means

12:30

you have no respect.

12:31

For me, doesn't

12:34

pay.

12:34

And we don't condone punching people

12:37

in the.

12:37

Face between guys. If there's

12:39

disrespect on that level.

12:41

At Berkeley, we don't love punching.

12:43

You're gonna get whacked. It

12:46

was.

12:46

It was funny TV moment

12:49

too, like there was something kind of amusing

12:51

about it, but I agree it was it was placed in the wrong

12:53

place.

12:55

I did enjoy that Christopher

12:57

just got knocked out and took it.

13:00

He took it.

13:00

He's like, yep, did

13:03

he fall or he kind of still.

13:07

Get closed the door. Now,

13:09

how did you know where he lives? I was trying

13:11

to sort of process that yellow

13:13

page or white pages or like, did

13:16

you actually know where he lives? I

13:18

don't know how Luke would know where He's a good question, thank

13:21

you, And he knew his apartment

13:23

number.

13:24

I had my trusty assistant Cato find

13:26

out all

13:29

right.

13:29

So then then it was weird

13:32

because we go to the house

13:34

and Lorelei's all cute and or cute

13:37

outfit kind of looking amazing, which

13:39

I just don't think after a breakup you're going to look that

13:41

amazing. I think you're gonna look like dog

13:43

do but whatever, making

13:46

the famous waffles, which then

13:48

Rory put chocolate syrup and syrup

13:50

on, which I was like, that sounds

13:53

great.

13:54

There's a lot of food this episode.

13:56

There was, And then what kind

13:58

of happens They talk about how he is

14:00

this where she says he doesn't want me to come until

14:02

December. Yeah, and she's

14:05

super disappointed about the summer trip that

14:07

she doesn't get to go to Asia, which you

14:09

know leads to what happens,

14:12

and.

14:12

She sets that Lane is back from our honeymoon.

14:15

Right. So it was kind of a fine

14:17

scene. It was

14:19

sort of getting us to a bunch of different plot

14:21

points. Nothing where I'm like, other

14:24

than.

14:25

That, I don't put chocolate syrup on it.

14:28

Did she make homemade waffles or a go waffles?

14:31

I'm sure they were agos.

14:32

Yeah.

14:33

I don't think he always takes the easy way

14:35

out.

14:38

Her is probably homemade.

14:43

I'm also noticing how much Rory

14:45

Slash Alexis is older now. Is

14:47

anyone else noticing that she's not a

14:49

kid anymore? I

14:52

noticed that multiple times throughout the episode, where

14:54

almost Alexis looks like she looks

14:56

now almost

14:59

anyway.

15:00

I also thought it was I think it kind of worked

15:02

in the sense that, like she's home for college and

15:04

she feels like, oh, I didn't know I was going to be here the

15:06

whole time, Like she is so much older than the

15:09

last time she was living in that town, so

15:11

I didn't mind her like

15:14

seeming older, but I get what you're saying,

15:16

Amy, like you kind of just like have this realization

15:19

like, oh, she's maybe anymore.

15:21

Yeah, you really start to notice it. Okay,

15:23

So then we go to the diner and

15:25

this was amusing. So we so we

15:27

get TJ which was kind

15:29

of fun. You know, he's drinking the coffee. He's

15:32

outside the window with Luke, and

15:34

then we we learned that Kirk's

15:36

has opened, and

15:38

then Kirk's gonna sue you, which

15:41

I was like, Kirk, what, like

15:44

you're gonna sue him for dry crashing right

15:46

into the diner and amusing and

15:48

with the shirt, all the little details were like

15:50

I just I just.

15:51

Want to say this and that's to be

15:53

over serious. But it was the only time

15:57

that I saw Kirk is kind of

16:00

an opportunistic jerk.

16:02

Oh interesting, true.

16:04

Yeah, because the guy can't

16:06

run his business. He's just you know, broke

16:08

up. It's like that would be the time

16:11

for a Gilmore girl's character to come.

16:14

To his aid, right, but he totally

16:16

right.

16:17

Like do something like you know, I mean

16:19

to open up a look like you

16:21

know what I'm saying. But it was just sort of like just

16:23

a selfish thing where he's got to he

16:26

saw an opening in the marketplace. It's

16:28

it's just it was incongruous

16:31

because it was two different types

16:33

of shows trying trying

16:36

to fuse themselves together.

16:38

Especially because Kirk looks up to Luke so.

16:41

Much, right, and it's

16:44

like, if if you're gonna break

16:46

these two up, deal with it, deal

16:49

with it. Don't try to do jokey jokes all.

16:52

But we're getting right. We're not dealing with it.

16:54

That's the thing. Like they barely deal with

16:56

it. Yeah, they don't deal with it, and they

16:58

deal with it in such a strange way. That said, I

17:00

did love all the details, the no cell phone

17:02

sign, the Kirk's just like the mug.

17:04

He's wearing the exact same shirt with

17:07

the ball cap backwards. And

17:09

somehow he has a liquor license, Like, wow,

17:13

doesn't he serve alcohol?

17:16

HETJ got a beer

17:18

from Kirks. Yeah, see

17:20

another odd, very odd

17:22

detail. It was just

17:25

strange.

17:25

And all the town is there now.

17:28

I did sort of love the outdoor

17:30

cafe vibe of Kirks, and

17:32

the whole town is eating there and

17:34

he's cooking up stuff on the grill.

17:38

I don't know if I'd trust Kirk burgers.

17:41

I'm sure he doesn't know. I'm sure he doesn't

17:43

have the proper permittve.

17:44

That might have been the strangest scene. That

17:46

was the strangest scene.

17:48

Oh no, I liked it. I

17:50

think the sushi making and the discussion

17:52

of like fried chicken, sushi, a

17:55

meat loaf.

17:56

Again, that's another strange scene

18:00

we go.

18:00

To that megs

18:10

We're at the Dragonfly. Sukis showing Laura

18:12

how to make sushi and she wants

18:14

meatloafs sushi, fried

18:16

chicken, sushi, peanut butter. I was

18:18

just like, was it just me?

18:20

Or like was there no setup?

18:22

That she's teaching her how to make sushi

18:24

for no setup?

18:26

We have no idea why.

18:27

I was later it took me so

18:30

long to realize why she was making sushi.

18:32

I was like, what is this scene for? I forgot about

18:34

like the Asia trip, right.

18:36

Because I learned later. We

18:38

learned later that they're doing it because she's going

18:40

to serve it to Rory with the red hots or whatever

18:43

at the Asia night. But like,

18:45

okay, just making me gag.

18:47

I rewound this scene because I thought I

18:49

completely just blacked out and missed what setup.

18:52

I'm like, why is she making sushi.

18:54

Yeah, I thought they were making it for the dragonfly

18:57

Yeah, and first me too. And then

18:59

I'm like, why does Laura I care about

19:01

this? She's got other things to do then worry

19:03

about how to make the sushi.

19:04

And when they said fried chicken

19:06

and meat love, I was like, what is happening? But

19:08

then we do get sort of a serious

19:11

moment and that Lauraai tells Suki

19:14

I told Luke, and Suki's.

19:16

At like, why would you do

19:18

that?

19:19

Would you? Okay, this is sort of like me

19:22

going off topic, but whatever, if

19:25

you were Laura, would you have told Luke.

19:27

You did it? Was that necessary?

19:30

I think you have to otherwise? Yeah,

19:33

down ten years down the road, and it's going to be more

19:35

damage than if you did it right now.

19:37

I mean we've already seen like all the

19:39

damage that's caused when they don't tell

19:42

each other things right on both sides.

19:45

So you know, like,

19:48

I don't know, I don't see how she couldn't

19:50

because it would it would always be

19:53

at least on her mind.

19:54

Yeah. Yeah, I mean

19:56

I guess I guess, like we can all agree she kind

19:59

of did the right thing or the needed thing. Yeah.

20:02

The timing, you know, when you

20:04

tell somebody something like that. Agree,

20:06

I mean she really humiliated him. He

20:09

was in the middle of his impassioned good

20:12

clamp it. Let's move to Beverly speech.

20:16

Jud clamp the proposal, and

20:22

she does say it was the worst moment of her

20:24

life, which also was like, yeah,

20:27

then why did you even do it?

20:30

Like not meaning tell him, but why did you do

20:32

that? Why did you go over to Christopher?

20:34

It's like, weird, what a mess?

20:36

Totally Jesus

20:40

So yeah, okay,

20:42

So then Rory

20:46

runs into Zach on the street

20:48

and Zach had a weird hat and weird hair. Yeah,

20:51

what was the hat?

20:52

Like were they trying to cover up his hair or something?

20:55

My husband and both were like, why

20:57

is he wearing that hat? Can't

21:00

brain conductors?

21:02

It was weird. And then we learned about

21:04

Pedro's which that actually was sort

21:06

of funny because I could totally

21:08

see that happening to Zach where

21:10

he thinks he's getting some ocean front room and it's really

21:12

some weirdo's apartment.

21:14

It's like the first Airbnb, like.

21:16

Totally was ahead of it.

21:17

Oh my god, you're so right.

21:22

So that was good. And then some guy's apartment Zach

21:25

I don't think Zach got a parasite. I think he got

21:27

Monazuma's revenge. Right, It's very

21:29

different from a parasite. Am I right?

21:32

A parasite?

21:33

He did?

21:34

Like, so they both got it.

21:35

Yeah, correct, But guess what I

21:38

get it? She

21:41

might have.

21:42

She might have also at the water did

21:45

so well.

21:45

But so yeah,

21:48

okay. So then Rory

21:51

goes over and we learned that the honeymoon sucked,

21:56

right, okay,

21:58

So we sort of get the beginnings of it here,

22:01

and we kind of get like, well, I was sick, but

22:03

now I'm not sick, but then I am sick like

22:05

that. So we're starting to get like, oh.

22:11

Right, we have Brian in that giant

22:13

sombrero.

22:14

I know, I said, there's a lot of sort of weird cultural

22:17

things in the second that I'm just

22:19

like, I'm going to just let it go for the sake of the

22:22

conversation. He's

22:24

playing video games or something.

22:26

Does he still live there? I guess he does?

22:28

Yeah he does.

22:31

Okay, So then we go back to the

22:33

diner and TJ wants Luve to put up a

22:35

stained glass window.

22:37

M hm, super

22:46

chair.

22:49

Was putting his head back because he fell

22:52

asleep.

22:53

I saw the escaping.

22:57

Ever you guys almost,

23:02

So.

23:03

DJ realizes that Luke's kind of been a

23:05

mood and

23:07

then he talks about Lis being so horny during

23:09

the pregnancy, which it's if.

23:11

I was a brother, you

23:13

know, that does happen to people, but like

23:16

for me, I was just like absolutely

23:19

on the level of never. I don't

23:21

know how people get like that during pregnancy.

23:23

But also who's telling their person like

23:26

their's I

23:29

know, it's so brother.

23:31

So I also like Luke

23:34

is so just patient in this episode,

23:36

like he's just like all right, like you're

23:38

gonna tell me, all right.

23:40

Wait tell you how patient he was for the tunic cast

23:42

role, which I call castle. I guess she called

23:44

it a tuna loaf. Also, oh

23:49

god, and I just felt like that's

23:51

been sitting in that oven for how long?

23:53

How not food safe

23:56

is this now? Because

23:58

we'll get to that though, right. So now

24:02

we're at the gazebo and we learned about the

24:04

horrible sex it's

24:09

yeah, And first of all, who's

24:12

having sex for the first time on the beach?

24:14

Oh god?

24:16

My favorite part is how Lane

24:18

was like, I mean, now I know

24:21

it's horrible, and Rory's.

24:22

Like, uh, like

24:26

it's not.

24:27

Yeah, she Lura

24:30

is being really respectful about it,

24:33

but like the conversation was just weird,

24:35

Like I could not imagine having that conversation. Also,

24:38

the timing of all this is just

24:40

like so

24:43

like how long was the honeymoon?

24:44

I know, I know you're trying to do the timing because

24:47

it just really beat meant already because

24:49

they'd have to have been gone a month.

24:52

Exactly, it's been two days.

24:54

I thought it's been two weeks. Yeah,

25:00

week honeymoon, but

25:02

maybe it was a month long honeymoon.

25:05

Yeah, maybe day one.

25:09

That was day one, and then it's day

25:12

one ish. I

25:15

mean she'd barely get a pregnancy

25:17

test that would work, yeah, literally

25:20

barely.

25:21

And it's also like we're I

25:24

know that pregnancy tests now are a lot more

25:27

accurate, but like.

25:28

Two thousand what year

25:30

was this two thousand and six?

25:31

Like my sort of flag

25:34

on it is that we're they're talking about

25:36

sex, right, but in

25:39

gilmore Land. So it's like you

25:41

can only talk about sex and gilmore Land

25:43

kind of like PG. Maybe

25:45

PG. Thirteen. When in actuality

25:48

you're having this conversation with your best friend, you're

25:50

gonna have it.

25:51

Way more, do you know what I mean?

25:54

Are you saying, yeah, you're gonna have way more

25:57

conversation.

25:58

It was like the high school version and totally

26:01

of this conversation and they're like twenty

26:05

one two.

26:06

Yeah, I felt

26:08

like I should have should leave the room when

26:11

they were I got up and left the

26:13

room because I didn't feel it

26:15

was appropriate that I was listening.

26:16

To them two young girls

26:18

that are basically like your daughter, and you're just

26:21

like yeah, And I was like, if

26:23

we're gonna do it, let's do it at Carrie Bradshaw

26:25

and Samantha style. But instead

26:27

we were doing.

26:28

It very tog.

26:31

Yeah.

26:31

I thought it was drawn out way too long.

26:33

I thought that whole scene was way too long.

26:36

Right, They could have made it half as

26:38

long and still gotten the same message across.

26:40

Yeah, probably would have been better.

26:42

Yeah, you know those messages we got

26:44

like you're beating a dead horse kind of thing,

26:47

that's what they were doing on this episode.

26:51

Well, then we get to yes, I mean I

26:53

agree. The whole episode felt like that. Oh,

26:57

the whole episode felt so like weird

26:59

and disjoyt and like I'm

27:02

liking it and not at the exact

27:04

same time, I'm like, how is this possible?

27:06

Also, my other question was

27:08

does Zach feel the same way.

27:11

Oh, it's such a great question.

27:12

She's like, I'm open to sexless

27:14

marriage. I'm like, what does your husband think about

27:17

this?

27:17

And does she think it waiting so long?

27:21

Yeah, she just to wait twenty

27:23

years.

27:24

And that's

27:27

actually something that would love to ask his character.

27:29

M hm, because does that mean they never

27:31

so say they were gone for a month, which were to believe?

27:34

Right? So they have sex day one, right,

27:36

you know, they get to Mexico sex day one, and

27:39

they're on this month long honeymoon and paid at

27:41

Pedro's gross apartment and they

27:43

never have sex again. And then she comes home and

27:45

two days later she's pregnant. Like they're

27:47

off to a great start.

27:49

Oh yeah, it's like

27:51

an episode of the Bachelor or something.

27:56

So then we have sort of the stock the

27:58

stuff of dreams, right.

28:01

They're in the fantasy suite.

28:03

Then this was awkward for me. So we finally

28:05

have this moment where Luke and Lorelai are reunited

28:08

in the crosswalk, a crosswalk

28:11

I don't know that I've ever seen before. She's

28:14

carrying all the groceries.

28:17

They're quite distant,

28:20

like it was so like they spotted each other

28:22

from across I don't

28:24

know where we're supposed to be, like this is so dramatic,

28:27

but instead it was just weird. And then

28:29

they're crossing and kind

28:31

of keep crossing, talking awkwardly.

28:35

I didn't love it.

28:37

Yeah, it wasn't like this the first

28:39

time. I wanted them to see each other after the breakoup,

28:41

Like it was almost like too

28:44

casual. They both were just like,

28:46

well, hey, well you're the one that

28:48

proposed in the first like, oh yeah, I punched

28:51

Christopher

28:53

your boyfriend. I punched your boyfriend.

28:55

You know, it's like just it was

28:58

just weird.

29:00

Point these characters are destroyed.

29:03

It's hard to relate to them anymore. It's hard

29:05

to like them anymore. And

29:08

you know, they're not saying

29:11

anything that's remotely

29:13

recognizable for

29:16

six previous seasons, and

29:19

it's it's just awkward. Everything

29:21

is awkward, And.

29:22

Yeah, I think that was my problem

29:24

with the episode, is that, like I'm

29:27

still pulling for Luke and Lorely,

29:29

like I still think that deep down they still

29:32

love each other, but then this episode

29:35

is there, it's just awkward.

29:37

They're just acting weird and it's all disjointed,

29:39

and I didn't know if maybe

29:41

that was intentional. They wanted

29:44

us to feel weird and awkward

29:46

because the characters are feeling weird and

29:48

awkward trying to figure out how there's

29:52

I don't know, but the whole thing just was

29:55

like, I don't think I need to see this episode

29:57

again. Yeah, I don't usually

29:59

watch this one.

30:01

The question, I think the question really is do

30:03

you think that Luke and Laurel I,

30:05

given this, you know, the

30:07

weight they bring to the show over

30:11

the years, do you think they deserved an

30:14

episode or two or three where you really

30:16

had to deal with this breakup

30:18

Andre that.

30:21

I would have preferred that we get a glimpse

30:23

of it at the end of this episode. And I sort of was like,

30:25

Okay, now I'm in I.

30:26

Think the fans the fans are getting short

30:29

change period. Again. I enjoyed

30:31

this relationship.

30:32

Liz, I thought. Liz,

30:35

which we'll get to, had some

30:37

really astute comments

30:41

and she really said to her brother, well

30:44

that wasn't normal what you did, and

30:47

that was some good meat. And I thought, oh,

30:49

okay, well, okay, well we'll keep going

30:51

because we can break that down.

30:54

So then this is where we have the scene where

30:56

TJ and Luker, you know, fixing

30:59

the window and TJ's got his beer

31:01

and he's got four tickets to the hawk Ats And

31:04

this is where Luke finally tells him that

31:07

hug. They broke up

31:09

in the hug and then he says, you got to come over for dinner,

31:11

which okay, good good.

31:13

I thought that was sweet, Like, yeah,

31:16

yeah, TJ saved this episode

31:18

for me, saved

31:20

the episode for me. They made it enjoyable.

31:23

I agree, because when we get to it,

31:25

I mean, we've got one more scene before it, but

31:27

I really enjoyed the scene

31:29

with the three of you. So right

31:31

before that, we get Rory at the house with

31:34

Lorlai and this is the whole we've

31:37

transported ourselves to Asia and

31:40

we've got which was

31:42

quite extravagant in the

31:45

kimono.

31:45

And did you find that it was one

31:47

of the strangest moments

31:50

on the show for

31:52

her to go to those lengths to do that.

31:55

I don't feel like she would do that. Yeah,

31:58

is this where they ate the hot sushi?

32:01

It maybe feels out of place at

32:03

this age in this season.

32:05

I think if it was like.

32:09

Three seasons earlier, maybe, but it's

32:11

just been Also.

32:12

She's heartbroken, so was awkward

32:14

for me that she's doing this when

32:16

she should just be in bed crime.

32:17

Well, I thought of it as light escape.

32:19

She doesn't want to think about it, so she's gonna

32:21

throw this extravagant night

32:24

with Rory so she doesn't have to sit in bed and

32:26

think about it.

32:27

She made a Tutsi roll, marshmallow

32:29

twizzer roll, sushi, a

32:32

butterfinger junior mint chocolate chip, jujubie

32:34

roll on an oreo red hot

32:37

shashimi, and were they

32:39

wrapped in the traditional seaweed?

32:43

Who?

32:53

Then this has a moment where

32:55

we hear the message, which I was

32:57

like, okay, now we're now, I'm

33:00

now, I'm in and we hear Christopher leave

33:02

the message and Rory's reaction,

33:04

which what did you all think of her reaction?

33:07

Well, let's let's talk first about

33:10

his intention. Why did he leave

33:12

that message? He knew that Rory probably

33:16

might hear it. There's a chance she could

33:18

hear it. Why would he These

33:21

characters are acting like.

33:25

Why why wouldn't he just call her cell phone?

33:28

I just you know, leaving that

33:30

message with all the detail on it.

33:32

And Luke punched me, and you

33:34

know we had nookie and I want to have

33:36

more and call me. Let's discuss because

33:39

you know I have a broken nose from your boyfriend

33:42

who you just dumbed. But we had nookie,

33:44

So call me and gosh, I

33:46

hope alexis is Rory

33:48

isn't listening. I mean it was just it was just

33:50

such a Again, I

33:52

don't understand. I don't get it.

33:55

Do you think it was intentional that he did that? Or

33:57

was? I think I think sho

34:00

he's so in his own world that he just doesn't

34:02

care.

34:03

I like hearing you tell it that

34:05

being said, I was like, okay,

34:07

he would call, he leaves messages there.

34:10

He I wasn't.

34:12

I sort of.

34:13

Rory doesn't live there full times.

34:15

That's how I took it, Like, you

34:17

know, he didn't know that she'd be there, so I actually

34:20

didn't think of it that way.

34:21

Yeah, and he saw that she was in your

34:23

in your not Europe Asia.

34:25

But he's her dad. Who still believe?

34:28

Do you leave something like that on a on

34:31

an answering machine?

34:33

Yeah, well he's not that

34:35

bright right there?

34:36

You think.

34:39

The Ry herself said,

34:41

he's never not stupid.

34:44

What do you all think of Rory's reaction?

34:48

I I actually

34:51

like I liked it. I

34:53

was like, finally, like, you

34:55

know, I don't always agree with things that Rory says.

34:57

But I think in this moment, it's like Suki

35:00

wasn't going to snap Laura, I had of it, so and

35:03

her mom like, we haven't seen Emily and Richard,

35:05

and usually Emily's the one who's,

35:07

you know, saying some things are actually kind of true.

35:10

So Rory stepped up and she's like, what are you doing?

35:12

And you know, it just shows you that

35:14

Rory really respects Luke over her

35:16

dad. And I think

35:19

that was a really important scene because

35:21

of Rory's relationship with Luke

35:23

as well.

35:24

M hm.

35:25

And also I thought it was a point well taken when

35:27

she says, things are so good with

35:31

me and my dad, why

35:33

would you do this?

35:34

Right?

35:35

And it is you know, it's true

35:37

sort of a.

35:38

Yeah, it's true because Rory

35:41

always gets so flustered

35:44

when her dad brings her

35:46

mom down, and so doing

35:48

that.

35:50

She knows Christopher is always bad news. So

35:52

what the heck were you thinking? I can kind

35:54

of see both sides though, because Rory

35:57

has made some questionable decisions too, so

36:00

it was a little there was an element

36:02

of, you know, the pot calling the kettle black, but

36:05

I think she could have shown Loralai a

36:07

little more grace. But then she kind of for

36:09

me, she kind of redeemed that at the end

36:12

of the episode when she came back and.

36:14

Yeah, we did need somebody in Lorali

36:16

circle to do that. Though yeah, you

36:18

said we don't have Emily. Suki was just kind

36:20

of like, oh, don't tell Luke, you know, kind

36:23

of shrugged it, not shrugged it off, but pretending

36:26

it didn't happened. We needed somebody

36:28

to call it for what it is.

36:30

And I actually, for me, I don't

36:32

know, it's always a little cringey when the daughter

36:35

and the mother have conversations about who

36:37

the mother's sleeping with. I don't know, I'm always

36:39

like, oh god, that being said,

36:43

I think she's older that Laura.

36:45

I would sleep with Christopher. She's not going to go

36:47

sleep with somebody else, you know what I mean. So it's

36:50

like it's Suki. Like say it was Suki

36:52

having the conversation, or even Babbett, it

36:54

would be like, oh, honey, you always

36:57

go back to him, and you can't really

36:59

have that with the daughters. But

37:02

I still thought it was an interesting sort of plot

37:04

point and.

37:04

Kind of like, yeah, I mean,

37:06

right, she could have chosen to

37:09

not have sex with anyone she could have

37:11

chosen to eat ice cream or something like Christopher's

37:15

not always the answer to the problem

37:17

when you don't feel well.

37:19

Yeah, it's also like that that episode

37:21

when.

37:23

I don't know how Lorlai phrased it, but it's when she broke

37:25

up with Dean, Oh, wallow, She's

37:27

like, you have to wallow. I think it was kind

37:30

of like a callback to that where

37:32

it's like you told me, if I'm

37:34

having a breakup, I need to sit and

37:36

wallow, And it's exactly what she's

37:38

not doing well.

37:39

And she's also doing with what Logan

37:41

did, which when Logan and Rory had their

37:43

break he went out and started sleeping with eighteen

37:46

bridesmaids. But you get My point is

37:48

like true, wallowing would have been

37:50

the better move. Yeah.

37:52

I thought Luke had a really good point in

37:55

that scene where they were breaking

37:58

up and he was and he had he

38:00

said, I'm also in this relationship

38:03

and I'm not letting it. I'm

38:05

not giving it up, you know, And

38:08

I don't know. I thought he had a point there

38:10

because it's true.

38:13

Yeah, I what

38:16

was interesting for me, Luke's a character

38:19

probably has greater impact

38:22

as a stable force for

38:25

Rory over the years, and

38:28

he does as a relationship with LORELEI. Yeah,

38:34

that's when I got out of this scene

38:37

between mother and daughter and daughter

38:39

reprimanding mother. It's like, why

38:42

didn't you consider me and my relationship

38:44

with Luke? How this is going to affect

38:47

me and my relationship with my real dad.

38:49

Well, and her relationship with Luke

38:52

has always been stable, you

38:54

know what I mean, Like it actually is more

38:56

stable than Laureli's relationship with Luke.

38:59

Over the years, they've had other

39:01

breakups, whereas Rory and Luke have always

39:04

had a constant.

39:06

All right, I mean that's really the loss, isn't

39:08

it. It's like, now Rory's cut off

39:11

somewhat from Luke.

39:12

Yeah, I was just I was about

39:14

to say that in the sense that like they

39:17

needed to take all that into account when they started

39:19

dating, which I think they did, and

39:21

then everything's just in the bucket. I

39:23

don't know how to say it any other way. It's like it's all just a

39:25

mess. Well,

39:28

then we go to Lane's apartment and Lane's on the

39:30

floor and oh she's pregnant,

39:34

and she freaks out and

39:38

Rory's kind of talking her down.

39:42

I don't hate the idea of

39:45

Lane being pregnant.

39:47

But oh, I'm

39:49

sorry skipped a scene. I'm sorry because we talked

39:51

about it briefly. I skipped the scene where

39:53

you're having the white Russians. So you

39:55

go over to the to Liz's

39:57

and you start to have the drinks.

40:01

And this is where I do like Liz a lot. She asked

40:03

if it was Anna, and Luke

40:05

doesn't want to talk about it, but that that's

40:07

the beginning of very important stuff

40:09

to come.

40:13

Jello.

40:14

Yeah, right, we haven't gotten

40:16

to that yet, but we can talk about should we talk about why we just

40:18

talk about the whole dinner. Let's just talk about the whole

40:20

dinner because the scenes are separated, but

40:23

they're so important. Go ahead, Susanne.

40:25

I was just going to say, talking about things that are awkward

40:27

and unexpected. Who would ever have thought

40:29

that Liz would be the voice of reason.

40:32

I know, and

40:34

yet she fully was. And also I

40:37

guess the one thing is she can totally call out her brother,

40:39

right, yes she does, and

40:41

she was she I don't I don't know that I totally

40:43

agree with everything she said, but she finally did call

40:46

out like that was weird that you didn't

40:48

just include Lorlai with

40:51

April right, and that

40:53

she was pretty quick to say was it Anna, which

40:55

it kind of was Anna, even though

40:57

everyone's like, no, it's not Anna in the sense that

40:59

he loves Anna. But Anna laid

41:02

apart into pushing the Luke

41:04

and Lorelaia apart.

41:07

I think she planted it in Laura

41:09

Lai's head that she's not married,

41:12

Like we like, Laura knew

41:14

she wasn't married, but like create

41:16

it an issue.

41:18

But she's less than because they're

41:20

not married. Yeah, and

41:22

then we get the gross tuna loaf? Is

41:25

that good? Tunas?

41:28

It was a tuna loaf?

41:30

She said, a loaf, yeah, and it.

41:32

Was not in a castle role dish. It was like on a

41:34

cookie sheet.

41:34

All meat that it was like a shaped

41:37

thing.

41:38

And wouldn't you know the oven's broken?

41:41

But I was gonna say, how did she check it like

41:43

three times and not notice it was

41:45

hot until the lost time?

41:48

And it does set us up to get Luke

41:50

to the store, which we'll talk about.

41:52

But I did like for else.

41:55

Yeah, I did like that Luke

41:57

had family support in this episode.

42:00

Never seen.

42:00

I mean, we've seen Lizen TJ before,

42:02

but not in this this way.

42:05

He's always been the support so like, I appreciate

42:08

he has it this time.

42:11

Okay, We've got more to talk about there that.

42:14

But also I want to talk about the scene with Rory and Lane.

42:16

This is a hot take, but I'm just going to say it.

42:19

Did anyone get the vibe for a moment there

42:21

that Lane might be considering other

42:24

options?

42:24

M h, I did do That's

42:28

it made me very uncomfortable.

42:31

I was like, okay, like I

42:33

thought, okay, they're sort of

42:35

going to have this deep conversation and then it just

42:37

pivoted. But I don't know if that was intentional.

42:39

Did you guys? Do you know what I'm talking about?

42:41

She sort of said, this show is going

42:43

listen, this show overall over the

42:45

last I don't know, five or six episodes,

42:48

end of season six, beginning season

42:50

seven is going into territory that

42:53

it doesn't normally occupy and

42:55

doesn't necessarily do very well.

42:58

Yes, your points taken, and that it's like

43:01

they started to go there where I thought they were gonna have a deep

43:03

conversation about her options

43:05

and then who that just

43:08

went away.

43:10

I didn't think of it.

43:12

Yeah I didn't either, But I mean I can see

43:14

wat.

43:15

You Yeah,

43:18

I think I think just overall

43:21

like what I gathered from that, Elaine

43:23

is just super bummed. Like she went on

43:25

honeymoon, it wasn't amazing, she

43:28

had sex for the first time, it wasn't amazing,

43:31

And now she's pregnant.

43:34

I don't know.

43:34

I think she's just I.

43:37

Mean, let me ask you, let me ask you

43:39

something. Was that supposed to be funny

43:42

that scene? Yeah, I don't

43:44

know. Was that supposed

43:46

to be funny? What were they going for there? What

43:48

was the point of it?

43:50

I took it as someone who's

43:52

just been sheltered her entire life,

43:54

and like she's never

43:57

had that conversation with her mom

44:00

or even in season one if you

44:02

remember, like Lane was just weird

44:04

around guys, and Rory was awkward too, but Lane

44:06

was just like a different you know, like she didn't really know how to like talk

44:09

to guys. So I just thought of it as

44:11

like Lane never grew

44:13

up.

44:16

But that's just.

44:16

How I m.

44:18

Yeah, she's like not I get what you're saying,

44:20

but she's put in the situation where she is

44:23

grown up. Like, you know, she

44:25

she is married. You know, she

44:27

seems a little.

44:28

Too to be married, too young to

44:30

have a kid, too young for all of this.

44:33

Yeah, like she wakes up.

44:35

The diner and has a band that cruises

44:37

around in a broke van.

44:41

She hasn't really had much opportunity

44:43

to be independent yet,

44:45

like she's going from her mom's house to

44:47

being married to being a mother, Like she

44:51

never gets a chance to like do her thing.

44:53

I think I just expected more from

44:56

Lane. Not that not that it's bad that she got married

44:58

or pregnant, but like she doesn't really have a

45:02

purpose quite yet.

45:03

And maybe, yeah, her storyline

45:05

is just so jumbled, like she works at the diner

45:08

here and there, she sometimes has

45:11

some music shows, sometimes

45:14

has band practice.

45:15

And she's pregnant.

45:16

I don't know, it's just her

45:19

storyline just yeah kills

45:22

me.

45:23

It's also with someone like

45:25

Rory, who's always had like, you know, interesting

45:28

relationships and back and forth you usually

45:30

have like in these shows, like the friend

45:32

who has their together

45:35

as a guess, but in this sense,

45:37

both of them don't, and so they're kind of just like

45:40

figuring it out together.

45:45

Yeah, she's mature

45:48

sometimes and very immature sometimes. I

45:50

guess that's what I would say.

45:51

Yeah, all right, so

45:53

then this episode is such a train wreck

45:55

for me because everyone miserable except

45:57

for Kirk.

46:00

Unhappy and when he shouldn't

46:02

when he shouldn't be right right.

46:05

You know, it's so messy.

46:08

The whole thing's disjointed is a better word.

46:10

But then we go to the Ralphs, which

46:13

was so weird because

46:15

it didn't even look Gilmoury. It was just

46:18

we're clearly like on a handheld camera

46:20

and Ralphs, like you has.

46:21

Like cut little Dozies market

46:24

where all the produce is like, you know,

46:26

it looks like a tiny, tiny trader

46:29

Joe's.

46:30

They acknowledge it too, so like she

46:34

even says like, oh, my attempt to avoid

46:36

you at Dosies didn't work, And he's like,

46:38

well, I'm at this grocery store because I've been at Lizon

46:40

TJ's on the other side

46:42

of town, and it's just like.

46:45

What Dozy's on the back lot was

46:47

booked that day, literally booked.

46:51

Isn't TJ also live in stars Hollow?

46:53

Now they do, like they bought a place. We

46:56

know this, so why would we not just shoot this scene

46:58

at Dozi's. It's

47:00

so weird. It's so weird and weird.

47:03

We've never in seven seasons seen any

47:05

other grocery store, Like it's apparently

47:07

really far away to go.

47:09

Literally, I think Lorli drove thirty miles to

47:11

that grocery store because where is the Ralphs?

47:13

Like by

47:16

Ryan target too? Like what it

47:20

was so weird and it was like that person like they

47:22

definitely shot that in a grocery store, which I also

47:24

don't understand, like that

47:26

is lighting is

47:29

not allow at all.

47:31

Which maybe I mean, maybe that was intentional

47:33

to add to the feeling of disconnectedness.

47:36

It was like, let's put them in a completely different

47:38

place that we've never ever seen before and

47:41

really throw everyone off their axes.

47:52

Where are the town busy bodies?

47:56

Where's Taylor? Where's that? Where's

47:58

miss Patty? Yeah, chiming

48:01

being involved in the breakup of

48:03

Luke and Laurel, e all the

48:05

ramifications. I mean, this is such a missed

48:07

opportunity. It's kind of shocking.

48:09

Really, it's not.

48:10

Even a missed opportunity. It's just not the

48:12

show, you know, like your show.

48:14

It's just this is a different show we're

48:17

watching. It's like a whole different show we're watching

48:19

with these characters we don't really recognize,

48:22

but we know they're bela missing.

48:25

It doesn't make sense with how they're

48:27

behaving.

48:27

Now, Yeah, I.

48:29

Thought that the the whole Kirks

48:31

thing was

48:33

the perfect opportunity that they could have had,

48:36

you know, Gypsy or Miss Patty or somebody

48:38

you know having their coffee at Kirk's because

48:41

Luke's is gone now, But they

48:43

just have like generic.

48:45

I was I was looking for, like bebetter,

48:47

someone who's gone listen in and ask

48:49

Luke like how you doing or you know something?

48:52

But we didn't even get that.

48:53

Yeah, but the

48:55

way the way

49:00

in a small town, the way

49:02

they tee up a lot

49:04

of these things, and especially

49:06

this relationship, they didn't

49:09

tee it up for the breakup.

49:11

It's not affecting the town in any

49:13

real way.

49:14

It's right.

49:17

The way.

49:18

And before they trained

49:20

the audience for six seasons to count

49:22

on this relation, to want this relationship, to

49:24

really root for it, and then when it happens,

49:26

this big celebration, and it's they're

49:29

breathless waiting for Luke and Laura to get together,

49:31

and now that they're not together, it's like nobody's

49:35

nobody's really talking about it.

49:37

I actually wouldn't mind if, like she

49:40

drove to Emily and Richard's house

49:42

totally.

49:42

I just was about to say that, why why are we not

49:45

doing that.

49:45

Or like, I just feel

49:48

like they should even though like they've

49:50

always been critical of Laura

49:52

I and her relationships. I just felt like we

49:55

needed them in this moment and we don't

49:57

have that.

49:58

Well, why didn't she take Rory and out

50:00

of town? We've seen like I know we've done that

50:02

before, but it's like kind of did that

50:04

with the Max break up. But it's just like, I don't know, nothing

50:06

tracked. And I have to say, I think

50:09

one of the things that was so awkward for me was how happy

50:11

she was in Asia.

50:14

Do you know what I mean? Doing the Asian She's smiling

50:16

and putting this. It just I was like,

50:20

what candy

50:22

and watch movies?

50:22

But like I also just thought like, why don't they

50:25

go on a trip together? Like

50:28

was that addressed at all?

50:32

Five seas

50:39

pick your choice?

50:40

Yeah, back to season three? Oh

50:43

my god.

50:44

Anyway, So then

50:46

we do have a scene that was sort of felt gilmoury

50:49

and poignant is that she goes

50:51

in, Rory gets comes

50:53

home, and lower lie there

50:56

finally you know, crying.

51:00

Yeah.

51:01

Sorry, I felt like just

51:04

to go back one step. At the in the grocery

51:06

store scene, she looked like she

51:09

wanted to talk about it more like

51:12

she she looked like she wanted

51:15

to maybe have more of a discussion, but

51:18

he kept putting up that wall, like you

51:20

go be with Christopher, you know,

51:22

you know you shouldn't be with me, And I

51:25

don't know. I just felt like she wanted to have more of

51:27

a conversation there.

51:28

Yeah, but he's gutted, he's done. He's

51:31

hurt so deeply. I mean, she slept

51:33

with it a.

51:34

Guy, and he's just so like, I'm fine, We'll be

51:36

fine. I'm angry now, but I'll be fine.

51:39

He's watching out because he was hurt.

51:41

Yeah, yeah, very luke like though,

51:44

that's how he would be. I'm fine.

51:46

I don't want to talk about it.

51:48

Let's write this puppy. What

51:51

are we What are we giving it? What's the measuring

51:53

stick?

51:54

Who wants to go first?

51:55

I think I think tar should

51:57

go first, giving she just has that

52:00

look.

52:03

This is this is where Gilmour

52:05

lost me. Honestly, like this season.

52:07

This is why I say I don't like the season. I prefer

52:10

the movies. But I'm going to give it

52:12

a four.

52:15

Generous that's actually generous.

52:20

Tune of loafs.

52:21

Yeah, Danielle, I'm

52:24

going to give it five

52:27

point five red hats,

52:29

extremely generous.

52:31

How did you give it?

52:33

How many she gave?

52:35

Five point five?

52:36

I'm going to give it.

52:37

Oh sorry, we haven't call on you.

52:39

I'm sorry, continue, I got

52:41

excited.

52:42

I know, I understand Susan French.

52:46

I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a

52:49

four point five. This didn't really

52:52

do anything for me. Four

52:54

point five beers from Kirk's

52:57

Diner, Amy Sugar.

52:59

Six point five, which is my low score ever,

53:02

still higher than you all, but six point five. Rory

53:05

having a blue dress over jeans, which

53:07

was a look.

53:08

I rocked in that era.

53:11

Oh yeah, so I respected

53:13

the fashion.

53:15

Yeah, six point five, and I feel

53:17

bad giving it that low. I'd like

53:19

to give it a seven, but I think I'm going six point

53:22

five.

53:23

I'm going to give it. Well.

53:28

The TJ hug was

53:31

worth at least three points.

53:35

God disjointedness

53:37

of it is so I

53:40

don't know. I

53:46

can't give it anything. I'm sorry it's a zero.

53:49

Oh no, because it's such

53:51

a did.

53:52

You give a zero last week?

53:55

Zero?

53:59

Zero?

54:01

I'm sorry, but I agree with Tara. I

54:03

mean the thing like, it's how many

54:05

episodes does it take to lose you? I mean this thing's

54:07

lost me too.

54:08

I'm like, I mean, we're only on episode two.

54:11

And nobody's acting like their characters

54:13

and it's just an odd experience

54:16

and I'm just really like, I'm just looking

54:19

for some laughs and I got a couple, you

54:21

know, but it's

54:23

just none of it makes sense anymore. There's no

54:26

real emotional logic to it any

54:28

longer. So yeah,

54:31

that's a double zero. Give double

54:34

zero. I'm giving it

54:36

zero zero's

54:40

Oh my god.

54:40

Yeah, it wasn't great. I'm not gonna lie about that. Well,

54:46

maybe next week things will be

54:48

better because I think Emily

54:51

at least we get Emily.

54:54

Yeah, she's coming back. All right, Well that's going to

54:56

do it. Our goose is cooked

54:58

here. We

55:02

love you, we need you, we we worship

55:04

you, and you're the best

55:06

fans on the planet. And I just took another

55:09

pill and I washed it down

55:11

with gues Scottie

55:13

Pea's Big Bug coffee break as

55:15

well, that

55:18

rich smooth flavor. Anyway,

55:21

Thanks everybody. Wish wish we

55:23

had better news for this episode, you

55:26

know, but you know us, we

55:28

we're addicted to being honest and it's just

55:30

real fault here that I am.

55:34

That's my fault. I told everybody

55:36

to be honest.

55:41

Yeah, it's like the no bs on. But anyway,

55:45

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55:49

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