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He can't even tell they just got up.

1:01

They are alert, they are

1:03

ready to go way

1:06

too early. We're not breaking down an episode

1:08

today. And I don't know why I'm on the

1:10

zoom because I don't know what we're doing. What

1:12

are we doing?

1:13

We'll tell you, but first this is early.

1:16

So this is my thrive time. Baby,

1:19

I'm ready to go around.

1:20

I'm ready, I'm feisty.

1:21

Yeah, it's in the middle of the night because

1:24

Danielle, what time do you go to bed?

1:26

I go to bed. I'm a I'm a grandma.

1:28

I go to bed by nine pm, but I am up

1:31

by five thirty.

1:32

Scott, When do you go to bed? I?

1:34

I you know, I go to bed at nine,

1:36

nine thirty, Okay.

1:37

So I go to bed at three maybe

1:40

two.

1:41

Why are you up so late? Because that is the

1:43

time, that's the schedule.

1:45

That is the time when people stop calling

1:47

and emailing all day so I actually get

1:49

the work.

1:50

Done, right?

1:51

So what three, four, five, six

1:53

seven? Has that been asleep six hours? Susan?

1:56

When do you go to bed?

1:58

I usually go to bed around

2:01

ten thirty and then get up about five thirty.

2:03

Oh, my gosh, and your poor boye.

2:05

Suzanne's back.

2:11

And I'm back from Nashville.

2:14

My word, what

2:16

great?

2:17

Oh it's great.

2:19

And what about Tupelo?

2:21

Tupolo was great. Tupolo was a fan convention.

2:23

It was the people are

2:26

so nice, so welcoming.

2:28

Scott called me with a fan that

2:31

was so nice.

2:32

Old day.

2:35

Was so nice.

2:36

But you know, and then I went to Nashville and

2:39

wrote songs with some of the top songwriters

2:41

in the entire industry, and it was incredible.

2:45

Four days it was.

2:45

Oh, that's so incredible, incredible.

2:47

Warner Chapel hosted it. Throw

2:50

us in the writer's rooms. I'm

2:52

in there with Lee Thomas Miller

2:54

and Emily Fouvel, Emily Landis

2:56

and Caleb voth Uh,

2:59

Carly's got Collins and Dan

3:01

pelerin. It was just amazing,

3:04

amazing, And we wrote, you know, four

3:07

songs that we'll see what happens with them.

3:08

You know, that's great. And what

3:11

time do you ye do

3:13

tar? What time do you go to bed? Go to bed

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later a little later like me, not as la.

3:18

No, I'm midnight usually.

3:19

Yeah. Okay, So

3:22

here's.

3:22

What we just.

3:25

Okay, so why am

3:27

I here? Why am I? Why am I?

3:29

I get it? I get a message jump on a zoom

3:31

right now.

3:33

So we all talked about it.

3:34

So we decided what's up because

3:36

we try to do this like when we have you

3:39

know, people come on that listen, but

3:42

they're so nice, right, they're they're so

3:44

nice. Maybe there

3:46

just can't be mean to us to our faces. I

3:48

don't know, but they're always so nice. So

3:51

we decided we're just gonna

3:53

do it and we're going to read

3:57

the comments.

3:58

From social right,

4:05

what's what we're doing.

4:06

That's what we're doing and then talk

4:09

about it. So I know what

4:12

the comments are. I don't

4:14

think anybody else does. I think

4:16

I know what because Jackie and I worked

4:18

on it together to pick so

4:21

I've seen some of them. I will admit that, but

4:24

nobody else has. So everybody's just gonna give their

4:26

real, real reactions and uh

4:29

yeah, because we want Look, I'll start

4:32

by saying two things and then I'll shut up and

4:34

not interrupt. Uh, we

4:37

do read them, and we do care. We

4:40

totally care. We totally take it to heart. We

4:42

read them all. We

4:46

sometimes are painful. So if you can

4:48

imagine, sometimes there's a

4:50

thousand comments we read every week and

4:53

some are mean, so we just joke.

4:57

Everybody's like, I'm not a bot, and it's like, we know you're

4:59

not a bot. We know that we're just joking

5:02

to cope, right, We're

5:06

joking to joking, So

5:08

please know we do read them.

5:09

So okay, I think we just do it like we do pop

5:12

culture. Jackie.

5:13

I think you put them up on the screen and

5:15

we'll go take turns reading them.

5:18

But yeah, if you're listening, this could be ef

5:20

and brutal.

5:24

I also have to say sometimes I scroll and

5:27

there's some long comments. Oh

5:29

yeah, they're like in depth.

5:31

Yeah.

5:31

I mean, you know, the most astute fans uh

5:34

in the world are Gilmore fans. They chapter

5:37

and verse know these episodes.

5:38

Yeah, my favorites one they comment

5:40

to their comment.

5:42

Oh yeah more oh yeah, and they do yeah

5:44

three or four times.

5:45

Yeah, and sometimes there's like

5:48

a whole conversation going on.

5:50

So, look, we wanted to do this. This is gonna

5:52

suck.

5:53

I mean, you guys probably like listening

5:55

to it, but for us, there will

5:57

be some painful parts.

5:59

But is it time? Is it time to face

6:01

the music it?

6:02

Yeah, it just feels like we're in season seven and

6:05

we do want people to know, like, look, we actually

6:08

do care. I think that's one of the things that there's not

6:10

everybody, but some people think we don't

6:13

pay attention to them, and we do, and

6:15

we actually try to take it

6:18

to heart. But sometimes, like you know, well,

6:20

old habits die hard, like we're not perfect. Okay,

6:23

So Danielle, you

6:25

start with.

6:26

That one, should I say who it's from?

6:29

No, let's protect the innocent and

6:31

the guilty in case they, you know, change

6:34

their mind.

6:35

Right. So here's the first one. I

6:38

think Laureli's panic with the wedding was

6:40

because of Anna saying she couldn't be a part

6:42

of April's life until they were married.

6:44

So to Lorelai, the wedding would solve all

6:47

of those issues. Luke saying no,

6:49

in my opinion, was to her him

6:51

saying that she had to stay outside

6:54

for longer, and the lack of date was

6:56

her not knowing how long she'd be on the

6:58

outside for. Then she does something

7:00

really self destructive and tells and

7:02

she tells Luke because she needs their

7:05

relationship to be over to justify

7:07

sleeping with Christopher. I am team

7:09

Laureli all the way, but she is human and makes

7:12

mistakes and she made a big one here because

7:14

she was hurting. Also, Amy referring

7:16

to April as a human child all the time feels

7:18

super weird to me.

7:20

Okay, first of all, she

7:23

did just refer to Laurel as a.

7:24

Human but

7:27

fair enough, fair enough,

7:30

I'll take it.

7:30

I'll take it.

7:32

So what do you guys think of all the

7:35

her thoughts? I mean, I kind of get it.

7:38

I think everybody's entitled to their opinion and

7:41

we're entitled to ours as well, and

7:44

that's what that's that's what we do on this show.

7:46

And that's why listen. When

7:48

Amy and I

7:50

initially talked about how this would

7:53

be shaped, this this podcast

7:55

would be shaped, I wanted something a little different

7:57

than what I was hearing on podcasts. I wanted it

7:59

to be looser. I wanted it to be more debate.

8:02

I wanted it to be back and

8:04

forth in a little bit, you know, not

8:06

not chaotic, but yeah, I mean, I guess

8:08

chaotic a little bit and fun and and

8:11

and just like I want everybody

8:13

to to give their opinions,

8:15

and that includes

8:18

fans, and we have gotten a

8:20

whole range of

8:22

responses, hot

8:25

and cold. So it's what I

8:27

wanted. It's it's an open forum.

8:29

It's you know, we're

8:31

free speech, baby, you know, yeah,

8:34

you know we we we let the opinions

8:36

fly.

8:37

This is a common opinion that I did see that a

8:39

lot of people think she did

8:41

that and then intentionally went

8:43

over to Christopher's, like that

8:45

she broke up with you so

8:48

that she wasn't quote cheating and.

8:50

Went over to Christopher's. I'm not

8:52

one hundred percent sure.

8:53

I don't know. I kind of interpreted that as

8:56

she felt so bad, and maybe

8:59

maybe maybe there's an interpretation where she just

9:01

wanted to be honest with somebody that she truly

9:03

respects. Yeah, I

9:05

don't know that she didn't want him

9:08

to find out from somebody else.

9:11

I disagree. I

9:13

think I think she did

9:16

the ultimatum because it

9:19

was her way of saying, is Luke ann or not? And

9:23

then she acknowledged he's

9:25

not fully in right,

9:28

and so she's like, you know what, this

9:30

is over, and the one way to

9:32

make it super super over and

9:34

not be able to recover from it is to sleep

9:36

with Christopher. So I

9:39

do I do see with this person, the

9:41

person that wrote this out. I I actually

9:44

think it's pretty valid. Like I do understand

9:48

her points, and

9:51

yeah, I mean I think the sleeping with Christopher, I

9:53

do think she did it intentionally. She

9:55

knew that that's the one thing that she

9:58

can't recover from.

9:59

I agree you do, Susanne.

10:02

I thought she went over there like

10:05

like one would like, I gotta go to somebody

10:07

that sort of loves me. I don't

10:09

think she went over there intending to sleep with them,

10:11

because she was so barfed by that

10:13

she did it.

10:16

Well.

10:16

I think she was.

10:18

She had just gone

10:20

over the edge, like she wasn't herself

10:22

anymore. She was completely freaking out. I think

10:24

it was multiple things. I think

10:27

that she, you

10:30

know, Luke let her walk

10:32

away, and so to her, Luke

10:35

is all out now, and so

10:38

she just I think I said this in a previous episode,

10:40

she just had to put that final nail in the coffin.

10:42

And maybe if she had been

10:45

thinking more clearly and been a little more rational,

10:47

she would have thought, Okay, probably going to Christopher

10:49

is not the right thing to do. But I think she

10:51

just like she just needed to make

10:53

it final that I don't

10:56

think she was cheating on Luke. I think

10:59

Luke might have different opinion of that, But I

11:01

don't think that she.

11:03

Thinks she was cheating.

11:04

And I don't think she was cheating because in her mind it

11:06

was already long over, Like Luke is

11:09

not fighting for her, Luke let her go.

11:11

Yeah, so you know, but I

11:13

think it's cheating per se.

11:15

But like I can see how even

11:18

think that, though too.

11:19

I'm not a huge fan of like you I

11:21

engaged, does somebody break up and you go sleep

11:23

with somebody that minute, like literally

11:26

that minute.

11:27

Yeah, I mean it was a terrible decision, don't

11:29

get me wrong, But I can understand how

11:31

she got there.

11:32

The only reason why I think it was kind

11:34

of like cheating, is it because it was

11:36

kind of like one sided

11:39

in the sense of like they didn't have the conversation

11:41

that they were broken up, which is why Luke

11:43

came the next day to talk to her, Like

11:46

technically there was, but.

11:49

In her mind that it did of the conversation. Her ultimatum

11:51

was that conversation.

11:53

Right right right, which is why I think

11:55

in her head they were broken up, but I think in

11:57

reality they were not. So that's why I

12:00

took it as cheating, because there was no

12:02

conversation between the two of them of we're

12:04

done, this is it, We're moving on.

12:07

I just okay, cheating debate

12:09

aside. I'm sure we'll have that for a

12:12

lot of days. I don't think

12:14

she knew she was going to sleep with him. Now,

12:16

I could be wrong, because I'm getting the vibe you guys.

12:19

I literally do not think she went over there

12:21

thinking I'm gonna.

12:23

I think if she didn't need that intent,

12:25

I think she would have because

12:27

I feel like part of it was validation, right,

12:29

like she needed to go to somebody who was going to

12:32

going to not accept her. That's the

12:34

wrong word, but like, what's

12:38

the word I'm trying to find like not push her away.

12:41

Yeah, that's going to be like, yes, come you know,

12:43

like.

12:43

Oh totally. I agree with that she wanted.

12:46

I think she went to Christopher's and was like, I'm having

12:48

a bad day. Then then yeah, then that wouldn't

12:51

have been her intent. But she

12:53

showed up and it was written on her.

12:55

I think she wanted the ego boost from

12:57

a man that loved

12:59

her. I just don't think she thought

13:01

she would take it that far.

13:05

Yeah, but I guess we don't

13:07

know, all right, she

13:09

would keep it going. Okay, Scott, you

13:11

ready, Actually this isn't

13:14

bad for you, this is nice for you. I gotta say,

13:16

I'm pretty bummed. Wanted to say heartbroken,

13:18

But that's extreme about how Scott categorized

13:20

his plead and lare lies pathetic. That

13:23

scene broke me and showed how much he loved her. It's

13:25

not pathetic to fight for what you love. When you're

13:27

at risk of losing something, you just put your ego

13:29

aside and go all out. I thought Luke was real

13:31

and raw and it conveyed something beautiful and heartfelt.

13:33

Nothing pathetic.

13:39

Gosh. I

13:42

agree with the comment

13:47

in that I agree

13:49

with the comment and that it's not pathetic to fight

13:51

for what you love, it's just how

13:54

you'd go about doing that. And

13:57

I think that's the distinction I was trying to make

13:59

that I didn't make her earlier. I

14:02

think there's just a better way to do

14:04

that without losing, without

14:06

losing your dignity.

14:08

And I kind of seen didn't bother me.

14:10

It bothered me a great

14:12

deal. Bothered me a great

14:14

deal. It just

14:16

showed because it showed how powerless

14:18

he is. And

14:22

I didn't. I didn't think it was great writing.

14:24

I'm sorry.

14:26

I wonder if it

14:28

was more like that. She didn't.

14:33

I didn't. I didn't like how I interpreted

14:36

the writing. I should I shouldn't bag on

14:38

the writing. I think I think I should take some responsibility

14:40

here as an artist

14:43

who maybe missed the mark on

14:46

how to turn those phrases,

14:48

you know what I mean.

14:50

I I don't feel like you missed

14:52

the mark at all. And I

14:55

wasn't on the last episode, but I did mention

14:57

in my comments that scene where Luke

15:00

comes with his truck all packed and he's like, you

15:02

know, I need you in my life.

15:05

That was, in my opinion,

15:08

one of the best scenes that you did in

15:10

the entire series, like it just

15:12

it was so good and

15:15

you can see, like when she says Luke I slept

15:17

with Christopher, like even to see all of

15:19

the emotions just wash over his face

15:22

right then and there, and it was amazing. I

15:24

didn't think Luke was pathetic at all. I didn't

15:26

think he was weak. I think the night

15:28

before, Laura I was

15:30

panicking and now he's panicking because

15:33

he's realized that, you

15:35

know, he's like, he's losing

15:37

Laurali, and so he suddenly

15:39

had this epiphany that you

15:41

know, he had been shutting her out this whole time, and

15:43

now he's going to lose her, and he's like freaking

15:46

the frick out about it.

15:49

I didn't think he was weak at all.

15:50

I thought it was It was a very

15:53

good portrayal of his love for her.

15:55

Yeah. I think she should have said, okay, let's go.

15:57

Yeah.

15:57

I think we would have been really upset with Luke if you didn't

16:00

do that.

16:01

And I don't know why she didn't say okay,

16:04

let's go. Well that brings us to this

16:06

person's other comment, Why the hell do we

16:08

spend so much time saying what should

16:10

have been written? It's already been written.

16:12

And done. Therefore it's the show.

16:14

As much as I get frustrated with certain things on the

16:16

show, it just is. And that is

16:18

freaking life. Just feels like the need to rewrite

16:21

takes me out of actual experience. I

16:23

know. I mean, I go both ways on

16:26

this person's comment because I've also said exactly

16:28

that before.

16:29

It's like telling you just shut up

16:31

the podcast.

16:33

That's like.

16:35

I but I also

16:38

have said.

16:40

I know I've said

16:42

this though, you guys, I actually said

16:44

this funny, but then at the same

16:47

time I rewrite half of it.

16:48

But that's but that's life, right, Like

16:50

you remember things in the past and you're like, I

16:52

kind of wish there are things like I kind of wish I

16:54

did this differently, or what if

16:56

this? What if this happened this way?

16:59

Like in your own life, if you think of even

17:01

if it's like little things, little moments where you're

17:03

like, I wish I would have said this, you know,

17:05

So I think it's just natural.

17:08

Yeah.

17:09

Well, and it's also like we just kind of decided

17:11

to go with the podcast this way where we sort of give

17:13

our real opinions on what we wish.

17:15

Would have happened.

17:16

Yeah, it's just a different show.

17:18

If we were just like I

17:21

don't know, maybe then what would we talk.

17:25

I guess just about the plot and about

17:28

what should have been.

17:29

Yeah, that's true. I guess. I think we really

17:31

go deep.

17:32

In some other rewatch podcasts, like they

17:34

hint at it, but like we really just take it

17:36

to the next level, and I think it just

17:38

shows. But we're passionate about it, Like

17:40

we're passionate about these characters, right.

17:43

I think it's we're fans too, and

17:46

we have a right to give our opinions and be passionate

17:48

about our opinions too, you know, but

17:51

much respect. You know, everybody,

17:54

everybody gets a voice, right.

17:56

Well, the next one's good Amy.

18:07

This isn't coming from me.

18:11

It's all from Tara two five sixty

18:13

three.

18:15

Amy's inability to self reflect

18:17

and take into account that we as the listeners,

18:20

only have issues and comment negatively

18:22

about her week after week. The

18:25

same comments and criticisms have been

18:27

going on since the first episode aired. Scott

18:29

Patterson beginning to speak publicly and candidly

18:32

about the year's long rumor about him and

18:34

Lauren not getting along on set, and

18:37

rather than shut up and let him talk, she

18:39

bulldozes over him to interrupt

18:41

him and talk like no one wants to hear from you,

18:43

and everyone wants to hear what he has

18:46

to say about the rumor. Also, she has

18:48

escalated from mocking Danielle

18:50

to mocking us as the audience, then

18:53

Scott going from calling us bots

18:55

to haters who hate on everyone, yet

18:58

in the same breathday mock us for calling Danielle

19:00

on Susanne Queen's if

19:02

we were so hateful, would we compliment

19:04

them week after week? We just

19:06

are tired of the same requests of letting

19:09

you co hosts, especially Scott speak

19:11

before cutting them off.

19:13

Hm hmm, yeah, okay,

19:16

you bulldozing me woman. First

19:19

of all, I'm

19:21

a man who's been bulldozed by

19:23

her.

19:26

I actually thought, look, okay,

19:28

but.

19:29

She's a woman. The plans

19:31

I have to take this.

19:33

In mm hmm. And

19:37

okay number one.

19:38

I listened

19:40

to the comments, I'm gonna

19:43

talk.

19:43

Over, I'm gonna bulldoze you a little bit here. Listen,

19:49

gang fans

19:52

love you, hear you. But

19:55

this is I got it. Okay, I get it.

19:57

I get it. But Amy

20:01

is very passionate and very knowledgeable

20:05

about this show as well, and I understand

20:07

that it is frustrating at times, but this

20:10

is how I wanted the podcast.

20:12

It's not her

20:14

fault. If you want to blame somebody, blame

20:17

me because I

20:19

had an idea for a podcast. I thought.

20:22

I thought the rewatch thing was an original

20:24

idea by me. First

20:26

of all, that's the funniest part. And

20:29

I found out there were I don't know dozens and I went,

20:31

oh, okay, great

20:33

minds, great minds in their life. But

20:35

but then, you know, I really

20:38

emphasized her the style of the

20:41

exchanges in this podcast.

20:43

I didn't want to make it, you know,

20:45

this button down kind of scene

20:48

by scene by scene thing

20:50

that we were going to worship at the altar of everything

20:53

that was Gilmour. I said, you know, we're gonna

20:55

we're going to open it up. We're gonna, you

20:57

know, we've got all these you know, really

20:59

break people on this cast, and they have

21:01

opinions, and that's what I wanted, And I said, I

21:04

encouraged her to talk over so well,

21:07

yeah, we.

21:07

Wanted to be like, you know, the Thanksgiving

21:10

family, right that gets

21:12

just unhinged. It's like we're not supposed to

21:14

hold back. And look, I was glad

21:16

to see Scott get snarky. And

21:18

also I think I wanted to

21:20

support him so that

21:23

he knew like, yeah, let it be,

21:25

let it go, You're you're safe,

21:27

you're good. And so I

21:29

think the other thing I will say, and this is not an excuse.

21:32

Look, I consciously

21:34

work every week on everyone

21:38

giving their opinion right and sharing.

21:41

Now, the one thing that I will

21:43

agree with, I'm sure I get like heated or

21:45

jump in whatever. I

21:48

don't agree that I'm ever dismissive

21:51

or whatever they sometimes say to.

21:54

Danielle or Suzanne.

21:55

I don't personally agree with that, because that's

21:58

what we're doing here, Like that would

22:00

be like, it's not

22:02

dismissive, it's we're having a conversation. We

22:04

don't have to agree, so right,

22:08

I don't have to support them

22:11

with their equin And if I disagree

22:13

and they do the same, they're like no, like

22:15

we just have already done it in episode.

22:18

Or I'm like, I think she went over

22:20

there not intending to sleep with them, and they're like,

22:22

no, she did, and I'm like, okay, like vine,

22:25

Like the other thing I will say, and

22:27

this is a little behind the scenes. Sometimes

22:29

nobody wants to listen to anyone talk

22:32

on and on and on and on and on. And that's

22:34

something that we know in like when you learn about

22:36

doing shows like this. If

22:38

you watch anything on TV, at some point there

22:40

is a point where the news anchor has to

22:43

jump in and move to the next question.

22:45

Right.

22:45

Also a little behind the scenes, not that anyone

22:47

cares. Sometimes

22:51

you don't know that there's fifteen messages

22:53

coming in at us like, hey,

22:55

you've you've gone twenty minutes and you're

22:57

in scene one. Hey the guess is in the way.

23:00

Hey, this is happening. And Danielle and Tara

23:03

and Suzanne don't have to pay attention

23:05

to that.

23:05

Scott and I do. So

23:09

that's not an excuse. I'm just giving you a little behind

23:11

the scenes of sometimes we're just trying to move

23:13

this ship along.

23:15

But right, but let me let

23:18

me address this bought

23:21

comments that I've made. So that's

23:25

me trying to protect Amy because

23:27

I know she reads every comment and

23:29

she takes them to heart, but she's got a thick

23:31

skin. But I know what it's like

23:33

to read comments. There was a thing and

23:36

have it affect your mental health because

23:39

years ago I took a position

23:41

in something and social

23:43

media just slammed me. And it was horrible

23:46

and it was awful, and they said horrible things

23:48

about my mother and who had passed away

23:50

and all kinds of things, and it really

23:53

does affect you. So that

23:57

was in response to trying to have

23:59

Amy's back, because I know how hard

24:01

she works and I know how much she cares about us

24:04

as people. She's a really good person. She's

24:06

a lovely human being and

24:09

super supportive of all of us. So

24:12

that's just me trying to have

24:15

her back and say, hey, maybe

24:17

don't read the comments so much. I don't

24:19

want you to, you know, I don't want you to be taking

24:21

these hits all the time because

24:24

because I love her and I love you guys, and

24:28

I'm not trying and I

24:30

apologize to the fans, and

24:32

I just want to just flat out apologize fans.

24:35

I'm I'm not trying to minimize you. I'm

24:37

not referring to as bots. I'm just

24:39

trying to make Amy feel better, like this

24:42

can't be real.

24:43

And it's so nice, right, it's so nice, you know what

24:46

I'm saying.

24:48

Because you've ridden, you know, very

24:50

intelligent, very long comment with

24:53

a lot of detail that I don't know that a bot can

24:55

do. I don't even know what a bot does. I thought

24:57

a bot just tells you to like buy a product,

24:59

something bought.

25:01

What I was referring to as a bot is not

25:03

a Gilmore fan, but somebody from

25:05

a rival podcast having

25:08

somebody their assistant or somebody

25:11

you know, start sending bad messages

25:13

to us.

25:14

The other thing I'll say is.

25:16

Because that happens in this game, right, I

25:18

mean they see a successful podcast in high

25:20

con Oh yeah, there.

25:21

Are podcasts where we know intentionally

25:25

I'm not saying that's the case here, but people do

25:27

do that, right, Like they go in and intentionally

25:30

right mean comments, so your rating goes

25:32

down, which please

25:34

don't do so anyway. The

25:37

other thing I'll quickly say is there

25:39

are about

25:41

one thousand dish plus comments

25:44

a week right on all the different platforms

25:47

we have, and sometimes

25:49

the commenters don't agree. So

25:52

I don't want anyone taking it personally if they think

25:54

I'm not listening and doing

25:56

what that comment says.

25:58

I'm trying to sort of take it all in.

26:01

And also, like I'm fifty, Like changing

26:03

me is not going to be the easiest thing in the world. But

26:06

by the way, I'm fifty, Oh my god, that's

26:09

gnarly Okay, so anyway, we're I think we're

26:11

kind of I'm sure holders.

26:15

And before we move on from this time, I do I

26:18

do want to actually take something from it.

26:20

And Scott, is there anything that

26:22

you didn't get off your chest

26:24

about the Laura Memmer? Like, is there anything else

26:28

left to be said since they you

26:30

know, this person does feel like you were

26:32

cut off.

26:33

Oh. I think

26:35

those rumors are things that are

26:37

started by,

26:39

you know, and maybe entertainment publications.

26:42

There one journalist trying to get clicks

26:45

for their their magazine

26:47

and let's start some, you know, because that's

26:49

you know, the classic uh

26:51

uh tactic in

26:54

any kind of journalistic circles

26:57

is like, let's build them up, especially entertainment. Let's

26:59

build them up, build them up, build them up. They're much beloved.

27:01

Now, let's not knock them down for clicks, you

27:03

know, let's let's try to destroy

27:06

something. Let's try to create something.

27:09

She's following you on Instagram?

27:12

Who so Lauren just joined

27:14

Instagram like literally yeah,

27:16

like like days ago and

27:18

it was a big deal.

27:19

Everyone's talking about it. Oh really totally

27:21

following you?

27:22

She's totally I wow,

27:25

Yeah, you.

27:26

Can give her.

27:27

I don't know how you do that, but I'm sure there's some way to say, like,

27:29

welcome to Instagram.

27:31

Lauren Graham, welcome to Instagram. Good to have

27:33

you.

27:33

I mean, oh my god, they're calling it

27:36

Instagram.

27:37

Oh my god, that's so good.

27:39

Juzanne, poor Suzanne has no voice,

27:41

but she's gonna try.

27:41

They're calling it, get it Instagram.

27:45

We got it, We got it the first time.

27:47

I have a question where these were circulated

27:50

and you know, clickbait articles.

27:53

Was this during filming?

27:54

Yeah?

27:55

Did that affect anything between the two

27:57

of you guys? Were you guys like what the hell? Like this is weird?

28:00

Uh No, we were just too busy

28:02

loving each other. We didn't even

28:05

notice.

28:05

It because

28:07

we weren't getting I remember.

28:09

We're too busy love in each other.

28:11

Also, like then you just work together again

28:14

on the movies, so it's like yeah.

28:17

Also, I'm sure it was so different because now on social

28:19

media, like people can expand on

28:21

the topic and the conversation with Back in the day,

28:23

it was just one article and that was it.

28:25

Right, Yeah, social media

28:27

wasn't really even that big of a thing early.

28:30

To right, you couldn't

28:32

just make a statement, hey we love each other or

28:34

post a picture together.

28:36

I mean we had a great time working together

28:39

and it was always fun working

28:41

with her. You know, she's super prepared.

28:43

It seems lore liash not fully,

28:46

but like from when you see Lauren in

28:48

interviews.

28:51

Full of jolly and full of jokes

28:53

and full of fun.

28:54

You know, she totally

28:56

wore I just forgot this on the Instagram.

28:59

She wore a from Gilmore Girls

29:01

in her first post.

29:03

Really now

29:05

I'm gonna move us along, not because I'm interrupting,

29:08

but because it's time to move along.

29:19

Okay, I'll read one. I think that Amy

29:21

keeps missing when

29:23

she repeats the same exact opinions every

29:26

week. What would you do if

29:28

you had a long lost kid?

29:30

Is that Luke purposely excluded

29:33

from her life with April from

29:35

the get go. This

29:37

wasn't a day or two or even a week to process.

29:40

Two months went by and

29:42

the only reason Laurel I

29:45

found out is because she came into

29:47

the diner that day, not because Luke told her

29:49

honestly that alone would be a

29:51

reason. And the engagement then

29:54

it's solely him compartmentalizing

29:56

and excluding her without communicating,

29:59

and Game at all never

30:01

communicates, and he desire for Laureli

30:04

to be involved until he screws up April

30:06

party and needs her. You

30:10

know, this person's making a very salient

30:13

point.

30:14

Yeah, let's totally agree.

30:16

Let's also remember that Luke is a grown

30:18

man in his forties who has his life together. I

30:21

get that the long lost kid is

30:24

an adjunctent is an adjustment, but my

30:26

god, I'm tired of the Oh poor Luke,

30:29

he doesn't know how to handle the situation. Like

30:32

the bar is said incredibly low here.

30:34

Look, I will.

30:35

Say I didn't repeat it almost

30:37

every week because people really like to

30:39

pile on Luke for

30:42

not immediately, including Loralai.

30:46

This comment is accurate,

30:49

It's filled with good points, But I

30:51

also think there is

30:53

a good point to saying, suddenly

30:57

you find out you have a kid

31:00

that is so massive that my main

31:02

point is I don't know what

31:04

I would do, what you would do, how

31:06

you would really react to that, And we are

31:09

going to dig into that in a little in a different

31:11

episode.

31:11

But I don't know how

31:13

I would react to that.

31:16

So I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt in

31:18

saying his reaction may

31:20

not be as crazy as

31:23

everyone thinks. You may not

31:25

want and it's also like I thought

31:27

about this for days, right it's

31:30

not like other things you

31:32

could find out about. It's a kid, so

31:35

there is sort of this like connotation

31:37

like you slept with somebody else, even though

31:39

I understand it was years ago. It's

31:43

a tougher one, and I do

31:45

think people would feel like this could

31:48

be a real problem in my relationship.

31:50

So I'm going to take it slow. I

31:54

just have some respect for the way he

31:56

reacted. And like that other person said, this is

31:58

how they wrote it, So I'm

32:01

not rewriting it. I'm going, you know what,

32:03

this is how he's reacting.

32:04

I'm going to support it. Mm.

32:07

Yeah, that's how they wrote

32:09

it. Wrote what I had

32:11

to do. I could change it right, And

32:14

I.

32:14

Feel like, I mean, I think we've beat

32:17

this poor horse just completely

32:19

into oblivion. But I

32:22

think that it's not so much that anybody

32:25

wanted Laura I brought in immediately.

32:27

It's that it just the whole thing seemed

32:29

so indefinite, like he never had a conversation

32:33

with her other than you know, a

32:35

couple words at Martha's vineyard.

32:38

It was there was just never any discussion

32:41

about where his thought process

32:43

was or anything like that.

32:44

He just completely blocked her out. So I don't my take

32:47

on that he wasn't ready.

32:49

He's treating Laura I like they've been dating

32:51

for two months. In that situation,

32:53

all right, take your time, bro. But they're

32:56

engaged, they've they've known each other forever,

33:00

and I don't really find the distinction

33:02

of it. Like, I don't think it should change

33:04

whether you're engaged or married. You

33:06

know that, I don't think is

33:09

a factor. And so just you

33:11

know, thinking about it in my own life, if my husband came

33:13

to me and said, oh I found out I had a kid in my

33:15

twenties or whatever, I

33:19

would feel some kind of way about it if

33:22

he didn't include me or

33:24

let me ask you just talk to me about it. I don't

33:27

need to be around the kid twenty four to seven,

33:29

but like you need to talk to me about

33:31

it and have these discussions. This

33:33

is our relationship. This does this

33:36

added question to our relationship. So

33:38

you gotta what if

33:40

it did happen?

33:41

So what if your husband came to you and

33:43

said he just found out he had

33:46

a kid. He comes to you right away and he says, I

33:48

just found out I have a kid, a twelve year

33:50

old.

33:51

Okay, what do you do? What

33:55

is your angel reaction?

33:57

We have to talk about it.

33:59

No, no, no, you know, not talk

34:01

about it. What would you do, Like,

34:03

would you have the kid suddenly

34:05

you have a second kid? They

34:07

live with you half the time? What

34:10

would you do? Like me thinking

34:12

about it part, and I want to know what what someone would

34:14

actually do.

34:15

What I would actually do is I would

34:17

tell my husband we need to have a conversation on how

34:19

we are going to handle this together. And I think

34:22

I'm not getting I.

34:25

Know, I'm interrupting you because I want to know

34:27

what you actually would do.

34:28

Not that is what I would do, not the talking

34:31

about it part. What I want to know. That's what you have to

34:33

do, though, you have to talk about it, but you.

34:35

Have to talk about it and create a plan with

34:37

my husband of how we are going to handle the situation

34:40

together.

34:40

Correct.

34:41

So my point is that you can't even and again

34:43

write your letters. I don't care write your letters because I'm going

34:45

to go hard. You're

34:48

not even able to

34:50

figure out what you would do. You're like, keep

34:52

telling me, we're going to talk about it, We're going to talk about

34:54

it. So Luke, who

34:57

already has sort of a hard time with this kind

34:59

of thing, is trying to figure

35:02

out what he's going to do

35:04

about it because he doesn't want.

35:06

To exactly the point he's going to do about

35:08

it, and there's no.

35:09

W Well, look

35:11

if the problem, so say

35:14

so, I want to jump to the next thing,

35:16

right, Like, say,

35:19

my significant other comes to me and says

35:21

he has a kid from twelve years ago. Obviously

35:26

I understand where you're saying, we're going to talk about it, but I'm

35:28

already ready to say, like, okay,

35:31

then then they can

35:33

move in with us, or let's

35:35

figure out financially. We're gonna have to send this,

35:38

you know, help contribute financially. Like

35:40

I'm ready to go to that next step. Right, So all

35:42

this.

35:42

They need to talk about it, Okay, why

35:44

didn't.

35:45

I say, wait a minute, why didn't Laura I say,

35:49

all right, here's what we're going to do instead of everyone

35:51

always having to talk about it.

35:53

But here, But here's the thing. I think

35:55

that they're the imbalance between

35:57

the verbal uh and

36:01

mental abilities between Luke and

36:03

Laureli are stark. And

36:06

I think that Luke might be avoiding

36:10

even opening up the ball on

36:12

this conversation because he he

36:14

probably fears he's going to get overwhelmed

36:18

with logic and

36:21

justification and he's not ready

36:23

for that yet, you know what I mean.

36:25

It's like getting into a conversation about something

36:28

like this with laurel I is something

36:32

he's just not ready for because he knows she's

36:34

going to come at him, you

36:37

know, with justifications, and

36:40

he's just not ready for it yet.

36:42

I agree he doesn't.

36:44

He almost doesn't stand a chance with her, you

36:47

know what I mean.

36:48

Well, but I

36:50

mean Luke holds his own against laurel I

36:52

all the time, Like they have that back

36:54

and forth banter all the time, and you

36:56

guys keep saying he's not ready. He's not ready, he's

36:58

not ready. But like, don't

37:00

forget that scene where they were buying the birthday

37:03

present and he tells her why he doesn't want

37:05

to bring her in. It's because of his ego

37:07

and he's afraid that she's gonna like Lorelai

37:09

better.

37:10

I sort of always thought that was a little hooy

37:12

but whatever.

37:13

Yeah, it felt a little like felt a little

37:15

excusey funny.

37:18

I never thought that was really what he was

37:20

really, Yeah,

37:24

I never.

37:25

Believed that, But whatever, keep going,

37:27

Susan, Well, that's fine, No,

37:30

keep going, keep going.

37:31

I want to hear like, No, I feel.

37:32

Like We've beat this dead horse. I've said my opinion

37:35

one hundred thousand times, So I don't I don't

37:37

see the point and keep going over it.

37:39

Because that's the whole show is for you that

37:41

that's the whole show of this podcast

37:43

is for you to keep giving your opinion because

37:47

that's the conversation we're having.

37:49

So like, I think that I think we're just never

37:51

going to agree on on this, but

37:54

I think to you know, I

37:58

can relate to, you can create.

38:00

A disagree because the way Loralai

38:02

would probably come in is the same

38:04

way I come in freaking hot

38:07

with Hey, we're gonna

38:09

we'll split time with her, she's gonna live here, I'll do

38:11

this, I'll do this, and and Luke is

38:14

overwhelmed by that. And that's

38:16

why I think Scott's point is so well taken.

38:18

I think I think that might be a little bit yeah.

38:22

Yeah, sure, but you

38:24

know, I think I

38:27

I think just still there's

38:29

just no there's just a complete exclusion,

38:32

which is the issue. So Lorlai

38:34

can come in like that and Luken say, you know what,

38:36

I need a second and I but

38:39

he didn't. He didn't he shut her

38:41

out. He's like, oh, you can't come. You can't

38:43

come like who wants to be He honestly

38:45

dismissed Lorelai for the

38:48

whole front half of that April April

38:50

situation until until the birthday party

38:53

came. But she did take it like

38:55

that. Lorelai took it like that,

38:57

that was.

38:58

Right and what I've always wanted.

39:01

And this is, like I said, Abraham Hicks,

39:03

right, this is this like if you go on YouTube,

39:05

it's one of those self help people, right, and

39:08

her whole process. I would love to hear her

39:10

analyze this because it would be that Laura

39:12

li I is making herself feel

39:14

bad about this, not Luke.

39:17

And I know that's kind of like hippy dippy woo wooy

39:20

whatever, but that Laura

39:22

li I, because she loves Luke, should

39:25

trust Luke and his process

39:27

that he needs for this instead

39:30

of needing it to be the way she needs

39:32

it to be.

39:33

I think she was trying to do that. She was

39:36

giving him.

39:36

She was with a but always with a huffy

39:39

puffy not she wasn't

39:41

fully authentically doing it, Whereas

39:44

when the roles were reversed.

39:46

Luke really

39:49

really gave her.

39:51

What she needed when she was having her

39:53

issues with Rory so my take

39:56

on it, And again I don't know if I'm

39:58

right or wrong.

39:59

I don't know.

40:00

It's just my take, right, Like, that's

40:02

like life is that she

40:05

never feel fully.

40:10

Was supportive of what his process

40:13

was. She wanted her process

40:15

to be his process, but it just

40:18

wasn't.

40:19

Yeah, and vice versa. I guess you can say.

40:22

I mean I again, we've

40:24

had this conversation before. I feel like she did

40:26

support him because she did exactly what

40:29

he asked of her, which was to stay

40:31

back and not

40:33

participate in anything. And so I

40:36

feel like she was supporting him. She wasn't

40:39

inserting herself. She wasn't showing

40:41

up at the diner after he told her not to, and

40:43

she wasn't like, you know, trying

40:46

to meet April in

40:49

any way other than what he wanted.

40:50

So I feel like, so I get what you're saying, but she

40:53

wasn't doing it internally, she

40:55

was so like, it's.

40:56

But that doesn't does it really

40:58

matter?

40:58

Why?

40:59

Though for me.

41:00

It does because it's why there was the

41:02

explosion. It's being

41:04

hard to get versus playing hard to

41:07

get. That's the best comparison I

41:09

can give you. When you play

41:11

hard to get, it's all a game and it's

41:13

all bs right, and you explode

41:15

out and have an ultimatum exactly

41:18

like she did. When you are hard

41:20

to get it's very genuine

41:22

and that you never have that because

41:25

that is it is more core.

41:26

Right.

41:27

So for me, Loralai was playing

41:30

it and not being it. She

41:33

was doing it, but she never was

41:35

feeling it. She was feeling all the pain, which is exactly

41:37

why. And I think the writing is brilliant.

41:40

She exploded out because

41:42

she was never authentically doing it.

41:45

She was robotic. I don't know what

41:47

the words are. Hopefully I'm conveying it.

41:50

Now, I get. And

41:52

you're saying that Luke was living

41:54

that he wasn't playing at.

41:57

It, correct, he was sort of yes, that's.

41:59

In my he was being the genuine

42:01

person and conveying

42:04

his genuine feelings at the top of

42:06

that whole situation like this

42:08

is what I need right, respect

42:10

it and this is not a game to me.

42:12

He wasn't telling her, I mean he I.

42:15

Mean, you can follow him for a lack of communication.

42:18

You can follow him for that.

42:19

But wait, the one thing I would hope and

42:21

again that's why we're doing this. And Susanna know you're coughing

42:24

the whole podcast is for everybody

42:27

to keep giving their points right and

42:29

not to be frustrated by

42:31

continually having the conversation, because

42:34

I do want to hear what everybody has to say

42:36

and I can. I know you're getting frustrated.

42:39

I don't want you to get frustrated.

42:50

The next one is I don't hate Amy, and

42:52

I'm not a bot. I just don't know how Amy

42:54

basically bullies her opinions and not allow others

42:57

to express their opinions without waiting for

42:59

the to finish what they want to say.

43:01

That being said, I feel that Anna should not

43:04

have put those conditions on loralizing in April.

43:06

If I were in larelized position, I would

43:08

want to establish some sort of relationship

43:10

with my future stepchild before I walk down the aisle.

43:13

Most psychiatrists recommend

43:15

that kids meet their parents' significant

43:17

other at least nine months to a year after

43:20

the couple start dating. Also to Anna's

43:22

comment about how marriage signals stability,

43:25

I would disagree with that in that there

43:27

are many people who are in a state who

43:29

are in a stable relationships who aren't

43:31

necessarily married. I realize

43:34

that Anna's view of romantic relationships

43:36

is very outdated, but there are lots of couples

43:39

who have been in a stable relationship for years

43:41

without formalizing it. My mom's sister

43:43

and her husband were in a relationship with each other

43:45

for at least ten years before they got married. One

43:47

can be in a marriage and it's very unstable.

43:50

I totally agree that everything this person just said, including

43:53

the top part.

43:55

Most psychiatrists recommend that the kids meet

43:57

their parents' significant other at least

43:59

nine months to a year

44:02

after the couple start dating.

44:04

That's really interesting.

44:05

You're not supposed to just date someone for two months

44:07

and introduce them to your kids.

44:09

If you believe what like.

44:10

You do whatever you want everybody, but that's

44:13

what the recommendation is.

44:15

Well, go back to the top. So I can just

44:17

take it in that

44:20

I bully my opinions and not allow others

44:22

to express their opinions without I

44:24

don't.

44:24

Think that's you know, you know, it may

44:27

come off that way, but I think everybody

44:29

here has no problems

44:32

expressing their opinions. Have you ever

44:34

had a problem just no opinion,

44:36

nursuan or I've never

44:39

had an issue expressing myself, and

44:41

Danielle's never had an issue expressing.

44:43

It's just that that when you believe

44:46

that you you know, you're following a

44:49

thread like a lawyer would in a case,

44:52

and once to prove their point. That's

44:55

all it is. And people can disagree,

44:57

agree or disagree, but you

45:00

know, nobody here has had a problem.

45:02

No, And I always go and take it. I always

45:05

listen. I also I also just

45:07

think about it and go.

45:09

But the thing is is when I'm talking about myself,

45:11

please don't interrupt me.

45:15

What were you saying?

45:16

That's the only role we have here.

45:19

I also just want to say, like I can't

45:21

speak for everyone, but for me, like I never leave

45:24

our episode thinking

45:27

like I was treated like I couldn't

45:29

say anything, and I just want to point that out, like

45:31

I've never felt that way, or

45:34

I've always left our Zoom meetings

45:36

with like, you know, smile on my face. Was a

45:38

good episode, and I've never felt

45:40

negatively.

45:41

So I just want to say that.

45:42

It will be a bit boring if we were all

45:44

just like, yeah, I think this,

45:46

I agree with you, by.

45:48

Let's actually let's do that. No, let's

45:50

do that, let's do that right now, Let's

45:52

do that right now.

45:53

I also like do an episode without me,

45:56

like I told Scott that I go why do I just

45:58

do an episode without man?

45:59

He's no?

46:00

Okay, So wait a minute, was we just read this comment?

46:03

I agree with everything me too,

46:06

Amy does Danielle do you agree with everything that was

46:08

said here? Yeah, of course

46:10

you do. Of course you do. And Susanna agrees

46:12

as well. We don't ask her, we could see by the

46:14

look on her face she agrees. Tara, you agree

46:17

to yep. Okay, good, let's move

46:19

on now.

46:21

I will say this person does make a good point in

46:24

that Anna is sort

46:26

of a real pill, right, Like

46:29

I get what she's saying and protecting her kid,

46:31

but like Luke and Laura, I've been

46:33

together for like one hundred years,

46:35

like friends and together, so

46:38

I always thought Anna was sort of and I

46:40

said it was like a bit she was

46:42

a little.

46:42

Over the top, I think. I mean, I think

46:44

it's valid that she

46:46

wants to protect her kid. I completely agree

46:48

with that. But when she said something about how

46:51

she wouldn't introduce her daughter to somebody until

46:54

she's ready to get married, like that seems weird

46:56

because what if your kid and your fiance don't

46:58

get along like that?

47:00

And also her point is that and

47:02

it's like okay, right, and I'm

47:05

engaged to this guy, so it was sort

47:07

of dumb, Like I don't

47:09

an I was dumb.

47:11

It was just giving a reason why.

47:13

Yeah, this person's comment of like

47:16

her view on relationships a bit outdated.

47:18

I actually never saw it that way, but I

47:20

could see it now because I feel like these

47:23

days, like if someone's not married but

47:25

they've been together, I don't really question it.

47:27

I'm like, oh, I love the part in this comment

47:29

where the person says there's so many bad

47:31

marriages exactly

47:34

like Luke and Lorli, unmarried,

47:37

even not engaged, could have a way

47:39

better, more stable, better relationship

47:41

for a child than idiotic

47:44

people who are married and like have

47:47

them slew of problems. So whoever

47:49

wrote this, I think that their comment

47:51

is actually so

47:54

perfect because they're being they're

47:56

saying it so well, like.

47:59

I just agree with everything they said, even.

48:05

Yeah.

48:06

Another I didn't realize this is going to be a ten part series,

48:09

but let's do another one.

48:10

Very very incisive commentary.

48:12

Very fantastic episode of the podcast.

48:14

I came very close to ending My Gilmore Girls rewatch

48:16

because the Luke lower Light plot of season

48:18

six seven is just too contrived. While

48:21

Rory has very little to do this podcast

48:23

saves it because it's interesting to listen to the show being

48:25

discussed by a group of intelligent.

48:27

Thoughtful people.

48:28

Thank you.

48:29

I love the.

48:30

Fact that the pod crew have different perspectives

48:32

on the show and characters. They challenge

48:34

me as a viewer while keeping things lighthearted

48:36

and being respectful to each other. Amy in particular

48:38

is clearly an outstanding broadcaster and would

48:40

love to see her doing different shows.

48:43

My yea,

48:46

how much.

48:48

Missus sugarman.

48:50

A second account This

48:53

is from my finsta. No, I literally

48:55

did not write this. I do not know the person,

48:59

but that's so nice and thank

49:01

you. And also that is the point, like

49:03

we want you to listen because even if season

49:05

six and seven.

49:06

Blow, we're going to have a good time

49:09

talking about it.

49:09

And how about Scott. Scott was just

49:11

on fire last week?

49:13

What did I do? What did I do? It?

49:15

We spewing stuff

49:17

and it was and nothing.

49:18

I'm always on fire, you know. Come on and

49:23

in two plow the fans and

49:25

I pulled everybody that came

49:27

to see me, and it was a lot of people, good folks

49:30

and I and they all listened the podcasts

49:33

and I said, what do you think about

49:35

this? You know what do you think about Amy? And

49:37

they love Amy and they oh, oh god,

49:39

we love her so much. So I got one of them

49:41

on the phone because I knew Amy was, you know, a

49:43

little bit you know, tender.

49:48

Yeah, I mean she was getting an ass whooping, and I don't

49:50

like to see that. Man, she's my girl. So

49:55

this fan I called, I facetimed Amy

49:57

and this fan so I said, we

50:00

we love you.

50:00

And I'm also find that I like

50:03

bring it. I get it. It's your show.

50:05

It's we're the

50:08

you know, we talk, but it's your show,

50:10

and we do pay attention.

50:11

That is the one thing I will say. But anyway, oh.

50:14

Yeah, oh yeah, all right,

50:16

probably an unpopular opinion, but I don't

50:18

think Luke and Lorelai is

50:20

a great love story.

50:23

Wow, let's hear it.

50:25

I want to hear that's

50:29

all right, easy, easy.

50:35

I think they they could have been.

50:37

I think they could have been because all the

50:40

making for a great relationship

50:42

was there, but they put so

50:45

much conflict between them. We got

50:47

such a small window of them being happy.

50:49

And I know it's

50:51

for the drama of the show exactly

50:53

why, but it really takes away

50:55

from my view of seeing them as a solid relationship

50:58

true. Also, my take

51:00

on Luke packing up the truck to

51:03

Elope wasn't out of character.

51:05

He was desperate and making a giant leap

51:07

to get her back. Unfortunately it was

51:09

too late for her.

51:12

I kind of agree with everything this person is

51:14

saying, too. There is so much

51:16

conflict and issues we don't ever

51:18

get to just enjoy how funny

51:21

they could be together, or the antics

51:24

they could have, like when they went to that party

51:26

and they were driving.

51:27

Home and Laura was all drunk, Like,

51:29

we don't see enough of that.

51:32

Yeah, well, look if it's too The

51:38

challenge in the writer's room is

51:41

how do we balance? And I

51:43

thought they did a great job of balancing out

51:46

the needs, servicing

51:48

the needs of a committed relationship

51:52

that was a diyllic and the

51:54

long suffering while

51:57

not sort of giving up the ghost all the time,

51:59

you know what I mean. It's like, yeah, yeah, it's

52:01

like how do you balance that and keep

52:03

people engaged? And I think they did a beautiful job

52:05

with that, with the conflict, you

52:08

know, I mean, I'm not disagreeing one hundred percent.

52:10

I'm saying but again, you

52:12

know, one thing I do know, and one thing writers

52:15

experienced showrunners and experienced

52:17

writers on TV tell

52:20

me is that you give the audience

52:22

what they want, they're going to go away. You've

52:24

got to keep.

52:25

That so true. I mean the Moonlighting is a

52:27

perfect example.

52:28

Remember everybody wanted

52:30

Maddie and whatever, well,

52:33

Maddian.

52:34

Whatever, but David,

52:36

oh yeah, David.

52:37

Maddie, thank you, and then it was like

52:40

wow. And even Ross

52:42

and Rachel it wasn't just smooth

52:45

sailing, even though we all kind of knew they would end

52:47

up together. Anyway, let's do a couple more. We're running

52:49

out of time, and I'm not interrupting.

52:51

I'm just telling everybody.

52:55

Do you want me to go?

52:56

Yeah?

52:57

I'm with Tara.

52:59

And that over. I like revival episodes

53:01

more than season seven. The good stuff from season

53:04

seven towards the end is not enough to make up for the

53:06

lack of how much it sucks for the majority of it.

53:08

For me, it's because of Christopher. Season

53:11

seven. He is there constantly into the second

53:13

half. They take his character that ninety

53:15

nine percent of fans hate and shove him Onmar's

53:17

screens, down our throats for half the season,

53:20

always around, always with Laura Li. He

53:22

completely drags the show down with his presence.

53:24

Not only that during all of this there's zero

53:27

to very little interaction with Luke and Laura Lai.

53:30

You take one of the most beloved relationships on the

53:32

low on the show, Luke and Laurli, and

53:34

completely take it from us, their friendship

53:36

included, and replace it with one of the most hated

53:38

relationships of the show, Christopher and Lauralai. And

53:41

as the audience, we're just supposed to accept

53:43

that that's how things are now. No,

53:46

this was such a poor writing choice

53:48

and a disservice to fans. It's even things

53:51

like Laurli going to the diner that is one

53:53

of the most staple parts of the show. Literally

53:55

the first scene of the show is Lauraai going into the

53:57

diner, but season seven until

54:00

episode nineteen, when the season is almost over,

54:02

before she steps foot in there again spoiler

54:05

alert. Taking these major

54:07

things of what the fans love about the show

54:09

away makes the show not

54:11

what it once was. And if I had been watching

54:13

it live, I would have been one of the viewers

54:15

who dropped out. And the revival episodes,

54:18

even with their flaws, we have zero interaction with

54:20

Laura Lai and Christopher. Luke and Loreli are

54:22

together. Oh spoiler and

54:24

Christopher is the only one is

54:27

only in one short scene, and so for

54:29

those reasons alone, that makes the Revival episodes

54:31

more enjoyable to me as the as

54:33

the whole than season seven.

54:36

Yeah, good points in here. I totally

54:38

agree with every part of it, but

54:41

great points.

54:44

You know.

54:45

I think that's why I enjoyed the

54:47

revival is because season seven really

54:50

takes you out of that comfort. Like

54:53

Laura, I would go to the Zigner every day and

54:55

I didn't even realize it was until

54:57

episode seven that she doesn't.

54:59

Step no episode nineteen, I'm

55:01

sorry of.

55:02

Season seven, episode nineteen, Yeah, that

55:04

she doesn't even step foot, and that kind of takes

55:06

you away from your comfort

55:08

show.

55:09

Yeah right, there's things

55:11

in season Steven I do like, and obviously we're

55:13

gonna break it all down, but this person makes

55:15

great points.

55:17

We can all be right.

55:19

Yeah, you know the thing, you know, what I'm getting out of this

55:22

is just how

55:24

engaged and how smart these fans

55:26

are.

55:27

Oh yeah, oh totally

55:30

and they have We're not even doing some of

55:32

the things today because.

55:33

We wanted to be a little more broad.

55:35

Sometimes they see things that I'm like, huhn.

55:38

Amazing analytical and critical

55:41

abilities.

55:42

And the way they like call back

55:44

to like four seasons ago,

55:46

and they're like, well, this is the reason why, And I'm.

55:48

Like, well, that's what Suzanne is so good

55:50

about. Suzannah.

55:52

Her voice is kind of going, but hopefully she's here.

55:54

Is like Suzanne is the

55:56

fan like that, that.

55:57

Is, she just probably has a better memory,

56:00

is able to bring something from past

56:02

seasons into the conversation with

56:04

us, which is why she is the queen.

56:07

Even though you're gonna say, I'm mom.

56:10

Well, we all watch shows differently as well,

56:12

Like I'm someone who, like I

56:14

may not take note

56:17

on every little thing, but I enjoy the ride,

56:19

and there are people who watch it and really

56:22

take note on every little thing. And I think that's also

56:25

what we have to remember as we sit here

56:27

and Rewatch and the fans Rewatch, like we all

56:29

watch them in a different way.

56:30

Totally. That's such a good point. Like I have my shows

56:33

that I iron to, and then I have my

56:35

shows that I have to focus.

56:36

The whole thing, and then I have my shows where I'm doing

56:38

my emails and I pretty much think I miss

56:41

half the show if you're doing yeah,

56:44

yeah, you're right.

56:46

Okay, this person makes a great point.

56:48

To me, Lorla not checking up on Luke after

56:50

the car crash into his diner emphasize

56:52

how she truly believed that she'd lost him

56:54

for good.

56:56

I think that's an amazingly good point.

56:59

I actually think that she

57:02

would have run over there anyway,

57:04

not just as her fiance, but as her best friend

57:06

too. Here's the thing, Laura and Luke's

57:08

relationship is rooted in a decade long close

57:11

friendship. Even if they aren't in a real romantic

57:13

relationship with each other, they still have a platonic

57:16

relationship that means just as much to

57:18

them. I totally also agree their

57:20

first breakup in season five highlights this

57:22

too, when Laura's breaking down and calling Luke

57:24

to come over because she really needs her

57:26

best friend to be there.

57:28

Now.

57:28

In season seven, for the first time ever,

57:30

it feels like they lost that friendship. This is

57:32

such great points how much that was done

57:34

was too severe to figure at all lost

57:37

by laurlat Danielle. I think it's also important

57:39

to note that Luke and LAURAAI first became friends

57:42

again before getting back together in the

57:44

finale. They're best friends first

57:46

and foremost, and Lauraai not running over to Luke's

57:48

in this episode shows

57:50

they've lost that as well.

57:51

I mean, this is very a stupid

57:55

yea, yeah, really good.

57:58

It kind of goes back to the

58:00

the bumper analogy in that last episode.

58:03

It's like.

58:05

She's not only not in the car,

58:07

but now she can't even hold onto the bumper

58:10

anymore. It's like the whole thing

58:12

is completely broken off. It's the engagement

58:14

and the friendship and she

58:16

just needs to draw that bright line that

58:19

this is this is done. Like I can't

58:21

go check on him because it just needs

58:23

to be.

58:24

Or less, we're not really friends anymore.

58:26

If you can't share April with me, right,

58:28

it's a friend would do that. Yeah,

58:31

it's interesting. That's a very interesting point.

58:34

Yeah, let's do it.

58:36

Scott. You read it.

58:38

Scott is one hundred percent right, and that's

58:40

it. Thanks everybody,

58:44

this one. Scott is

58:46

one hundred percent right. It was a cruel

58:49

and odd way to go about this relationship.

58:52

It was completely off. I absolutely hated

58:55

the way Laurel I was in

58:57

this episode. I'm not sure if I'm the only one,

58:59

but instead of having a conversation, she

59:02

gave him an ultimatum, and that's

59:04

just not how you'd approach a

59:07

love like their I agree,

59:09

I agree interest great point.

59:12

And I get that she exploded totally

59:15

fine. I'm totally with her explosion's

59:17

totally fine with the ultimatum, then

59:20

she needed to calm down and

59:22

then they could have solved it.

59:23

So because of these comments, maybe

59:25

re examine some of my thoughts

59:28

about the writing. Maybe the writing

59:30

is so good that

59:33

it it begs

59:36

all of these questions in all of this controversy.

59:39

Right, Well, that.

59:40

To me is what I love about the show.

59:42

Like I love that for twelve weeks

59:44

we've been having the same conversation that doesn't

59:46

bother me. I get that other people don't

59:49

feel that same way. I mean, I have a friend

59:51

and we've been having the same conversation for three years

59:53

about her relationship. Three years,

59:55

and I'm I'm happy to every day I have it again

59:58

and I'm fine. But I get how some people we'll

1:00:00

find that frustrating.

1:00:01

I just don't so

1:00:04

this.

1:00:06

I thought we were gonna get through twenty five comments.

1:00:09

We've gone through like seven, So

1:00:11

I don't know.

1:00:12

I liked this. I think we can definitely bring this

1:00:14

back again. Maybe we will. We'll

1:00:17

go through a few more episodes, and.

1:00:18

Then I think it's eye opening. I really

1:00:21

like this.

1:00:21

Yeah I was.

1:00:23

When you told me what this was, I was like,

1:00:26

but this is really eye opening. Yeah,

1:00:29

Mark, folks, well I

1:00:31

must say that was quite refreshing.

1:00:33

Amy, Thank you so much for doing

1:00:35

this.

1:00:37

Yeah we did good. I did have a lot of comments.

1:00:41

Yeah, but enough. I mean, I think it represents but

1:00:43

we had.

1:00:44

To read them all, so the pain of reading them all

1:00:46

to find the ones we were right.

1:00:49

And you know that's why

1:00:51

you get the big dollars, because you take the big hits.

1:00:53

Thank you so much.

1:00:54

Anyway, one thing is for sure,

1:00:57

it's possible to love the fans

1:00:59

as much as we do and love

1:01:01

Amy as much as we do, and.

1:01:07

We appreciate her.

1:01:09

We appreciate you guys. We disagree

1:01:11

with you guys, sometimes we disagree with Amy

1:01:14

Amy, but we can all

1:01:16

agree that we're having

1:01:18

one heck of a fun ride on

1:01:20

this podcast. And you

1:01:24

know it was a phone call to Amy what three

1:01:26

years ago? And look, look look at us

1:01:28

now, I mean, and

1:01:31

I think we all look forward to this every week,

1:01:33

get together. We get to see each other and.

1:01:36

Even when you make me do it so early.

1:01:38

Even when it's early, you know, anyway,

1:01:42

all the best and really we

1:01:44

do appreciate your your comments. Please

1:01:48

keep them coming. They

1:01:50

are important. Your voices are always

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taken seriously and they're always important, so

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just keep them coming. Kids, we will see

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you next time. Thank you, gang, and have

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a great day and stay safe out there. Hey

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