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in podcasts, one of them productions. I Heart Radio

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Art Media are heart podcast And this is the

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RSV edition of

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the podcast. We're all sick. I

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think all of us are.

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Wait, who is anyone not sick?

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You guys aren't sick? All

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right, so it's just you and me, Amy.

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I got my first. Of all, I sound a little

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better than how gross I sounded last week. But yeah,

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I've got RSV. I'm

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doing good with it. But it lingers. Nothing

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lingers. I thot it for well eighteen

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days.

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We have episode twenty one,

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season six, driving

1:01

Emily Gilmore, really

1:04

and a rollicking affair? It was

1:06

Wasn't it really good? It

1:09

was? It was? It was

1:11

I know, I changed the title.

1:12

I said, Okay, what did you think of it?

1:15

Overall?

1:16

Guys? I loved it?

1:18

Yeah, yeah,

1:21

no, uh not. It didn't really have

1:23

a flaw.

1:24

Yeah, yeah, it's

1:26

really good.

1:27

I have to laugh because my opinion

1:29

is always so different than every I

1:33

did not like this episode.

1:36

I can't wait to hear why tell us a little?

1:38

Why a little why is

1:41

I just I felt like the storylines

1:45

were like just really

1:48

melodramatic and unrealistic,

1:51

and some of the acting was a little

1:53

overdone.

1:55

I wrote a little a little over the top with

1:57

the Suki and Jackson

2:00

and a little over the top. Oh

2:03

God, that's.

2:06

Susanne's waiting to counter anything

2:08

we like.

2:10

It's really funny how my opinion is always

2:12

different, even like the very first time

2:14

I was on the podcast, I don't remember

2:16

what the episode was, but you guys

2:18

all hated it and it was one of my favorites. I'm

2:20

not even sure what it was now, but it was. I just wasn't

2:23

My brain just works differently, Wit.

2:26

That's so interesting. I can't wait to hear what you

2:29

We'll just go through it because I want to hear what

2:31

you liked and didn't like. May

2:33

I say my favorite thing of the whole episode really

2:35

fast though. That was

2:37

real rain, and I didn't

2:39

do it. It was really cool

2:42

that it was really raining.

2:44

I noticed that too.

2:45

I did like that it did.

2:46

Not get on the camera lens, which I thought was impressive.

2:48

But it was definitely raining, and

2:52

that was pretty rad. I'm not sure it was fun to film,

2:55

but it was really rad to watch.

2:58

Well, anything that causes the temperature to go

3:00

down a little bit is welcome

3:03

on that set, you know.

3:04

Yeah, when did this air? Daniel?

3:07

It aired on May second,

3:09

two thousand and six.

3:10

So May second, when would you have filmed it? March?

3:13

I don't know.

3:15

Here used like a month ahead, little more month and

3:17

a half.

3:17

Who knows?

3:18

Pretty legit.

3:21

All right? So we started out Friday night dinner,

3:24

which is pretty still. Oh

3:27

geez, gott, I'm sick. I'm sorry, I

3:29

have we know.

3:31

If you have RSV, but you should get tested.

3:33

I have something, but go ahead. Synopsis. I'm

3:36

so sorry, Susan.

3:36

I will let you do it because my crown was kind of taken away

3:39

last week. So I'm just gonna.

3:40

Yeah, me and Suzanne, we're having

3:42

a better, better week.

3:45

Okay.

3:46

This is season six, episode twenty one,

3:48

Driving Miss Gilmour. It aired

3:50

on May second, two thousand and six. As

3:52

we just established, sweet after

3:54

getting Lasik surgery, Emily enlists Lorelized

3:57

help as her driver and companion, finally

3:59

revealing a big surprise that catches

4:01

laurel I completely off guard. Meanwhile,

4:04

Rory takes charge of Logan's recovery

4:06

when he is released from the hospital.

4:08

Cute, but I'm ready for that facial hair to go.

4:10

On the way.

4:11

Well we have you

4:13

know, we have spaghetti and meatballs causing

4:15

the Lorele and Rory

4:17

to regress behaviorally speaking.

4:20

I loved part

4:22

of that scene and thought it was stupid at

4:24

the same time.

4:25

But that's but that's that's when Gilmour

4:27

is at its best.

4:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's.

4:30

Light, light, silly comedy.

4:32

And the and the writing, the script,

4:34

whatever, however you say. It was amazing

4:37

all the things that they were saying. I just was like, who's

4:39

taking away someone's dinner?

4:40

You're nuts, You're double nuts.

4:42

Yeah, yeah, so good, It's so

4:45

good.

4:45

And then I heard Hermann comes in and keeps

4:48

they keep doing the joke. Well it must

4:50

be the spaghetti.

4:51

Am I wrong that we hadn't seen him in a couple episodes

4:54

we have?

4:54

Yeah, it's been a while.

4:56

Yeah, I'm so happy.

4:58

Susan. Did you like that because we liked

5:00

that? Did you like get Herman showing

5:02

up or did you hate it?

5:04

No?

5:05

It was good.

5:05

I thought it was cute.

5:06

I thought the whole thing with Laura, I

5:08

like waving her fork around. She would never

5:10

have done that at Emily's table, Like, I

5:13

think that was where I was like, eh, that's a little

5:15

over the top, but it was funny. I definitely

5:17

was laughing.

5:18

Yeah, but the spaghetti and meatballs makes them

5:20

regress to a childlike

5:22

state.

5:23

And what about the Rory Gilmore Library,

5:25

the Rory Gilmore Astronomy,

5:27

I mean

5:30

that was I was quickly doing

5:32

the math. I'm like, are they giving a million

5:34

dollars? It feels like they're giving a million dollars.

5:37

For a dedicated

5:40

There's got to be more that. It's got to be more like five

5:42

to ten million. Yeah, yeah,

5:44

man, you know. And

5:47

then Laura I says to forget about

5:49

it. Rory there, bye bye.

5:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.

5:53

It was a good opener, absolutely

5:56

a good opener.

5:57

All right.

5:58

Then when we go to uh uh,

6:01

well, we find out that Emily is she

6:04

changes subjects. She's having Lasik surgery

6:07

with an extremely handsome doctor. And

6:09

this makes this makes at

6:11

Herman a little schellice a little

6:14

touch.

6:14

Did do you guys hear the shout out to doctor

6:16

Sugarman Sugarman?

6:20

Yes?

6:20

I did. Doctor Sugarman was

6:22

not the eye doctor, but he's the ear

6:24

nose and throat doctor. And here's what's

6:26

crazy. Not related,

6:29

but there is a very famous

6:31

doctor Sugarman in LA that

6:33

is an ear nosen throat doctor. So

6:36

I don't know if it was a

6:39

tip of the hat to the real doctor

6:42

Sugarman, who could be whose

6:44

clients could be on the show.

6:48

Well, let's get him on, let's let's grow on. Actually

6:51

it's not a bad.

6:51

Idea, idea, especially with everyone's

6:54

RSV.

6:56

Not a bad idea.

6:57

Magic Johnson's also going around promoting

6:59

the RT the vaccine. If anyone care

7:01

course we could.

7:02

Move be off Magic, I'm definitely

7:04

taking it. I'll

7:07

take four. He's doing it.

7:11

I did laugh at the handsome doctor and the

7:14

like doctor Marcus Welby, which I'm sure

7:16

we'll talk about in pop culture.

7:17

But so then they talk

7:20

about then Emily is up to her old tricks again.

7:22

That they sat down with Christopher

7:24

invited him to the country club.

7:26

Now, that was interesting. It

7:28

was right because it would have been

7:30

concerning if not for the

7:32

end of the episode where you're like because

7:35

at first you're like, oh, what's happening.

7:37

You're right, Yeah, you're right, You're like, why are you

7:39

hanging out with Christopher? But then we

7:42

got the payoff and.

7:43

I won't say it, but I think

7:45

it should be acknowledged. Knowing what

7:47

comes makes

7:50

it that much more interesting. But

7:52

yet I don't think they had ulterior

7:55

motives. Well they

7:57

did, but then you do

7:59

you.

7:59

Got a I even

8:01

wrote that in my notes, I wrote, ulterior

8:04

motive.

8:04

Okay, talk about.

8:05

Well, let's let's let's talk about it when we

8:07

get to the end, because that's okay, fine,

8:10

where is okay?

8:12

All right, So we'll put a pin in that they talked

8:14

to Yale donation. We've been through that, all right. So

8:16

now there's a hospital. Uh,

8:19

Logan's in a wheelchair. He's

8:22

being released from the hospital. Rory

8:24

is really mothering him. What do we

8:27

feel about this cute?

8:30

I did not like her.

8:31

Yeah, I was you, Suzanne. It was cute

8:33

for a second, and then it just it

8:36

just.

8:36

Was so ridiculous about every little

8:38

thing. Yeah, okay,

8:41

I just thought she was really over the top. And then

8:43

she's like, oh, I cut off a little old lady so

8:45

that we could so I could get a

8:47

good parking place.

8:49

And I mean he did get hurty, dang

8:51

hurt. It's not like he just had a

8:53

little something, right.

8:55

But I don't know if the doctor

8:58

says, you know, get

9:00

out of bed and move around, and then she's like,

9:02

I don't think that doctor knows what he's talking about. Well,

9:05

why do you know what?

9:05

I thought there was a little sarcasm with that.

9:08

I don't know. I didn't. It was just

9:10

a little too much for me, although I did like when

9:13

Logan asked the doctor he said, can I be discharged

9:15

to your house?

9:16

Yeah?

9:16

That was funny. I

9:18

will say I did not like Rory's outfit and she wears

9:20

it for an endlessly long amount of time in

9:23

this episode, and I did not care for that. I literally

9:25

wrote, no thanks.

9:26

I did not like that out But.

9:28

I thought the kiss was cute. I think they're

9:30

cute. I think it's cute to see her

9:33

caretaking and really caring. And

9:36

I would be pairanoid if

9:38

my boyfriend had

9:40

those injuries. It might be

9:42

a little over the top myself, but.

9:44

Just say, who cares? All right, We're going to go

9:46

to the Dragonfly now, Michelle.

9:49

Michelle is freaking out because he

9:51

just found out that he

9:54

s ingested too many calories.

9:56

Can you imagine if during the whole episode

9:58

we had to like exercise like

10:00

I was sure I could do?

10:02

It's Anne I bet you this scene

10:04

bothered you more than any other scene

10:06

because it was so over the top.

10:08

Right, Danielle, keep me dancing,

10:10

Not more than any other scene, because there are some

10:13

scenes that bother me more, although I

10:15

did. I watched the episode twice last night because

10:17

I'm like, I gotta find something to like about

10:19

this episode, and it did kind of grow

10:21

on me a little bit. I thought it was I thought it was kind

10:23

of cute, and I actually, you know, shout

10:25

out to unique Truesdale who

10:28

had to keep doing that through those long

10:30

cakes.

10:30

So it's hard you run out of moves

10:33

after Scott

10:36

and I are sort of trying to run in place

10:39

and do moves.

10:41

I'm sick. I can't run.

10:43

First of all, I couldn't hear anything Suzanne was

10:45

saying,

10:50

like Danielle said, I was trying to hard the what

10:52

am I going to do next?

10:53

What am I going to do?

10:56

Do you?

10:56

I just saying that all again.

10:59

I thought I didn't

11:01

think it was that bad. I watched it twice

11:03

and it kind of grew on me the second time, so

11:06

I didn't. I didn't hate it, but it was kind of over the

11:08

top.

11:08

The takeaway for me, though, as you realize

11:11

she's blowing Luke off, and I'm

11:13

like, what is going on?

11:15

And also I did you understand

11:18

a thing that Michelle was saying?

11:20

No, I had to turn the titles on this.

11:22

Yeah, I couldn't. The accent was so thick.

11:24

I couldn't understand.

11:25

Yeah, well, because understood

11:27

the milk situation. He thought he was drinking

11:30

that free and it was full fat or something.

11:32

And the Laurel I dis

11:35

to Luke. It's like, you know, creating

11:38

some space there.

11:39

It's just so weird. She's not

11:42

only is she blowing him off, she's lying she's

11:45

staff meeting and she doesn't have a staff meeting. And

11:47

I'm not clear on Oh.

11:49

Yeah, I didn't like how she involved Suki and

11:51

Michelle in that, you know.

11:53

And so why why

11:55

did we go to this? I understand

11:57

we left off with like a lot of angst,

12:03

right because Amma will not accept

12:05

her and Anna has yelled at

12:07

Luke.

12:09

Do you think in her mind she and

12:12

I mean, we can talk about this a little bit

12:14

later, but she is acknowledging it's

12:16

not working.

12:17

Yeah, and she's given us at this point.

12:20

This is so this is one of the reasons I

12:22

didn't like this episode is this

12:25

is now the seventh

12:27

or eighth episode. It's like groundhog Day.

12:29

I'm like watching the same thing over and

12:31

over. Luke is completely oblivious

12:34

and Laurale's feelings are hurt, but she won't

12:37

stand up and tell him how she's

12:39

feeling.

12:39

Yep.

12:40

And I'm just kind of bored with it at this point.

12:42

And I feel like, now in this episode,

12:45

we see like after the whole birthday

12:47

party thing where you know, she

12:50

made this winning party for Luke and

12:52

then she still gets her hand slapped.

12:55

I think like she's just given up. She's like, Okay,

12:58

I you know, I'm done.

13:00

He's done, but he's

13:02

not done. And he's never given any indication

13:04

of being done.

13:06

She's had any conversation

13:09

with her about it either, like he has said

13:11

nothing to her to kind of

13:13

reassure her. And so she ends

13:15

every episode upset

13:17

and sad. And now we see

13:19

that she's just throwing in the towel.

13:22

Yeah.

13:23

Again, she's not doing it in a healthy way

13:25

because avoiding him is not the

13:28

right way.

13:28

To do it. Here's

13:38

the dilemma. I think the

13:40

dilemma for the writers is this

13:44

that and I kind

13:46

of figured out what's coming and

13:51

it's the bad thing, right, Yeah,

13:53

so I kind of figured that out. I

13:56

haven't seen her, I know, but

13:58

I kinda but donk A

14:00

dont going on there. It's going to

14:02

be bad. So if if they

14:07

the bad thing is going to happen next

14:09

episode, I think, right.

14:10

So off my headphone.

14:12

No, because he doesn't know either, he's

14:14

just thinking about speculating.

14:16

I'm just speculating. Yeah, I

14:19

think they're setting up us up for this, and I think

14:21

the writers are intentionally. You

14:24

know, if they make Luke Luke too sympathetic

14:28

or these two about to reconcile

14:30

and there's a big understanding, then the bad thing can't happen.

14:33

So it's like, how do you get to the bad thing? Right?

14:37

You have to create However

14:41

sloppily we

14:43

claim it's being done or it's it's

14:45

it's redundant, and it's like, all right, already,

14:49

they got to get Laurel I

14:51

into that bad into the bad thing. Somehow

14:55

justify that it's that, that's

14:57

why it's happened, because these two were so far apart

14:59

in they're our community kiddingway, So how do you do that?

15:03

So I understand what you're saying, I do

15:05

I do Susanne, I do understand what you're saying, but

15:08

uh so, maybe what you're saying is they could

15:10

have done this a little better.

15:12

Yeah, like as a viewer, and

15:14

I don't want to get too far ahead, but the scene in the

15:16

bar where Luke is talking to

15:19

TJ and he's you know, talking,

15:21

he's talking about Liz, but like,

15:23

I feel like the writers are toying

15:26

with the viewers. It's like they

15:28

put Luke in a position where he's trying to explain,

15:31

oh, you know, she's really talking to herself,

15:33

and I wanted to sweem the lines.

15:36

Well, it's very intentional they did that.

15:38

They have like having a full

15:40

speech, but yet he's clueless.

15:43

But then there's still no resolution for

15:46

the viewer. So I don't know. And

15:48

it kind of now we're at the end of the season and I'm

15:50

kind of thinking about what we were talking about

15:53

at the beginning of the season, where by this

15:55

point, you know, the writers knew that they

15:57

were on their way out and so they're

16:00

like making a statement here and

16:04

I don't know, I just wasn't a fan.

16:06

That's an interesting perspective.

16:08

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think, okay.

16:11

Ever underestimate you know, personal feelings

16:13

being hurt and what the repercussions can be.

16:15

I also, so, first of all, I don't know that all

16:18

the writers leave, right. We know Amy

16:20

and Dan leave, but a lot of the writers

16:22

stay right.

16:23

Well, And maybe maybe it wasn't

16:25

necessarily an intentional thing, like maybe

16:28

it's it was just unconscious and

16:30

that's how it came out in the writing. But Amy and Dan wrote

16:32

this episode. They

16:34

both had writing credit on this episode.

16:36

And I don't know.

16:38

I just I don't know that you're gonna tank your

16:40

own show even if you can't make a deal for season

16:42

seven, right, It's like.

16:44

Maybe I didn't I that's just my impression.

16:46

I'm not saying I don't know these pe I think they

16:48

know they are completely wrong, but that's how it feels.

16:51

And I could be totally wrong too, Like we're just spitballing

16:53

here, guys. So like they

16:55

know they've got a season seven, right, So

16:58

to me, if I planning

17:00

right, because I'm planning right now for our season

17:03

seven and what's going

17:06

to be after that? So is

17:09

there a chance that if you keep them

17:11

together? I'm not saying they're gonna break up, but I'm

17:13

just saying if you keep them together, that

17:15

gives you one trajectory for season seven.

17:18

If you break them up, it

17:20

gives you a different trajectory.

17:23

So it all may be quite intentional

17:25

everything that's happening, and not

17:28

in a bad way or purposely

17:30

tanking Gilmore girls.

17:33

It's just giving more. How

17:35

do I say this without I don't hate

17:38

what is to come? I found it quite

17:41

Oh my wow, what is

17:43

coming? So I'm interested

17:46

when we get there. Who likes it and hates

17:48

it?

17:48

Well?

17:48

I don't know.

17:49

I mean it's whether or not

17:51

the creators consider Luke core

17:54

character to this piece or not right,

17:58

and they do. If

18:00

you know, with lorl I hurtling towards

18:02

the bad thing, what kind

18:05

of impact does that have on her character? You know

18:07

what I'm saying. So take her character

18:09

down several notches. That's

18:11

interesting parent blindness, take

18:14

his characters?

18:15

I mean, is this character Well that's an interesting question.

18:17

Well, so what you're asking is this wilful character

18:19

destruction or is it just

18:23

some kind of handhanded way to get them

18:25

to the bad thing?

18:26

Yeah?

18:27

Interesting? I mean yeah, let me ask you

18:29

this. You are

18:31

getting married, all of you. You're all getting married,

18:33

right, You're engaged you're getting married and

18:36

suddenly you find out that your fiance

18:40

realizes he has a baby, a

18:43

child that he didn't

18:45

know about. Would you get

18:49

married on June third or would you postpone

18:51

the wedding?

18:52

I think it would be a conversation. Yeah,

18:55

yeah, I mean, it's not one person's decision.

18:57

They would both have to But what would you do?

19:00

I personally would get married.

19:03

I probably would say, let's take a second. There's

19:06

a lot going on right now, let's see

19:08

what's going on.

19:10

I don't know what i'd do.

19:12

I mean because to me, and again this is just

19:14

one hundred percent my opinion, and you

19:17

don't have to agree with it. If I

19:19

have this person that is my person,

19:21

and I love them enough that I want to marry them, a

19:24

child coming in isn't going to change

19:26

my relationship with that person. They're still

19:28

my person, I agree with That's

19:31

that's my perspective on it. But I

19:34

don't know that there's a right or wrong answer. I

19:36

mean, everybody would have their own as I.

19:38

Might postpone the

19:40

wedding because of the

19:42

circumstances, right Like this is a

19:44

little I know many people that postponed

19:47

their wedding because a parent

19:50

was ill right and they wanted

19:53

to or they hurried

19:56

up their wedding because of a parent

19:58

right outside circumstances

20:01

impact wedding days,

20:05

Does that mean it impacts the relationship

20:07

In my opinion, No,

20:11

that April is not destroying

20:13

the relationship with Luke. I

20:16

think Lorelei is thinking

20:18

it is. I don't

20:21

actually think their relationship is

20:24

bad just because they're

20:26

postponing the wedding either.

20:28

I mean, why can't it continue

20:31

to exist in this the normal

20:33

state that it's in. It's you

20:35

know, they're in love, They're they're

20:37

a functioning, solid, grounded

20:39

couple that live together. So it's like, okay,

20:41

so it's delayed able.

20:42

And say they even want to have children, right, I

20:45

don't think putting that off for six more months

20:47

or a year is super problematic,

20:50

right, it's not.

20:51

I don't even think it's about the wedding anymore.

20:53

Yeah, I agree

20:56

with what you're saying, but I also think

20:58

that this situation suation. It's

21:01

not April that's the problem. It's

21:04

how they're dealing with the situation

21:06

with April. So it's actions

21:09

that are becoming red flags. Does that

21:11

make sense totally?

21:13

And so do you guys? The three of you think

21:16

that the relationship

21:18

between Luke and Lorelai is

21:20

actually not good

21:22

right now.

21:24

Well, clearly it's not good. She's

21:26

pulling away.

21:28

But is it warranted? I never really

21:30

saw them having problems

21:33

with their relationship other

21:35

than and I get it's

21:37

big how they feel about

21:40

it.

21:41

Appears that Luke isn't interested

21:43

in the relationship, like it's like

21:45

he's not nurturing the relationship the

21:48

way he used to that.

21:50

So there's he's being neglectful of

21:52

that relationship. And now it's quite clear.

21:55

But is he Yeah, he's

21:58

putting all his eggs. They're in

22:00

the April basket, and there aren't

22:02

a lot of eggs left for Laurla.

22:05

Isn't that?

22:06

I think she stands right. There's no conversation that

22:08

they've had. You know, the onus

22:11

is on him just to have that conversation

22:13

with her, to start that conversation with her and reassure

22:15

her.

22:16

But yes, I agree with that, But say you have a

22:18

certain bandwidth, right, he works, he

22:21

runs the diner. You know, he's

22:23

now discovered April. He's got things

22:25

right. So when you're in a relationship,

22:28

a really good relationship like they have,

22:32

as the other person. Don't

22:35

you say, hey,

22:38

I understand I'm not the

22:40

top priority right now because

22:42

you've got all these other things, and

22:45

that person steps up to support

22:47

the person in need, just like

22:49

vice versa. Luke was really

22:52

there for Laura I when she had her issues

22:54

with Rory. So what I'm asking

22:56

is, and again I'm really just asking it because

22:59

I am not fully developed on my own

23:01

opinion. Is there relationship

23:03

really bad? Or is Lorelai just not

23:06

no aborting Luke in

23:08

his time?

23:09

Just because Luke doesn't need constant

23:12

reassurance, it

23:14

doesn't mean that Laura I

23:17

requires the same. She needs a little bit

23:19

of reassurance. He should

23:21

understand that not everybody is

23:23

like him, but he doesn't need

23:25

the constant, doting, right reassurance.

23:28

He's you know, he's going to be there regardless,

23:30

but you know, not everybody's

23:33

like that. Laura I obviously needs some

23:35

communication. There's no communication. Susan's

23:37

right, I've come full circle

23:39

on this or so.

23:41

Also, it's like their whole relationship

23:43

was Luke was a different way. You

23:46

know, he was the one that said I'm all in. He was

23:48

the one pursuing her, the one that was always

23:50

very always we

23:54

knew Luke was always a beacon

23:56

of light in the sense that he always showed

23:59

Laura Lie that he's there for her.

24:01

Do you feel he's treating her badly?

24:04

I don't think he's treating her badly unintentionally,

24:07

Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying, is like, it's

24:10

not intentional at all, but

24:13

he is unintentionally

24:17

pushing her to the side.

24:18

I'm not seeing that as clearly

24:20

as clearly you three are. I

24:23

see him treating her quite

24:26

well, right, Like he's loving

24:29

and communicative

24:31

ish, right, like as he's capable

24:33

of. He's not a jerk, he's

24:35

not lying.

24:37

He's shutting her out of one of the big

24:39

moments of his life with his child. But

24:42

she's completely shut out of that. He's

24:44

not even talking about. He's even

24:46

getting a little snippy with her if she tries

24:48

to bring it up. And he gave her this

24:50

big speech about communication.

24:52

Right.

24:52

He let her in with the birthday party

24:55

thing, right, He let her come over, he let

24:57

her run the birthday party. And

24:59

then when.

25:00

Anna, because he was desperate.

25:02

Right exactly, I mean it served his purposes.

25:05

Yeah, and then when Anna

25:07

threw a tantrum about it,

25:09

then he slammed that door shut again and

25:12

got pissed at Laurel.

25:13

I like, I don't think he ever

25:15

got pissed at Loralai. I don't.

25:18

I didn't read it that way.

25:19

I didn't either.

25:20

I got it as he was upset

25:22

and he's so bummed and frustrated and upset,

25:25

but he's not blaming Lorali.

25:27

So let me ask you guys this, are you all

25:30

in the Lorelei Luke situation

25:32

team? Lorali? If

25:35

you had to.

25:36

Pick and Luke, I want them

25:38

both to communicate with each other. They're

25:40

both messing this up now.

25:43

But here's another aspect of this that

25:45

I think he's

25:48

so out of character at this point

25:50

that it's you're hardly recognizing

25:53

because where is the backbone? You

25:55

know? And now I'm seeing this so clearly in

25:57

this episode, where

26:00

here's his backbone? When

26:02

when Anna right?

26:04

Right right? And

26:06

where is his comeback? Like wait a minute,

26:09

hang on a second. Yeah, I agree with you, and

26:11

you said this, you echoed this

26:13

last episode. It's like you

26:15

didn't even tell me we had a child.

26:17

How dare you talk to me this way?

26:19

Yeah?

26:19

I agree with you for twelve years.

26:20

You know, I mean completely, I'm saying

26:22

that he didn't say it.

26:24

You know what, Danielle, it seems like a moment

26:26

we should bring up the person that wrote to us.

26:29

Oh yeah, so someone DM me because

26:31

you know how we got into a heated discussion last

26:33

episode about how, like

26:36

why did Anna

26:39

keep this secret away from Luke? And

26:43

this person told us because she

26:45

didn't know who the baby daddy was? Because

26:48

remember April had a test three different

26:50

carerors and so in front of us.

26:53

You know, so she maybe just

26:55

didn't know that Luke was the father.

26:57

I don't know, that's a disagree Yeah, she's

27:00

just.

27:00

A good it's a good staff speculation

27:03

though, you know, like she was too embarrassed she

27:05

didn't know who the father was.

27:07

She could have gone to that. I mean even if she

27:09

was had, you know, another person

27:12

that she was dating, or

27:15

she was seeing multiple people, she could have gone

27:17

to each of them.

27:18

And you know, I

27:20

never got and like, with all

27:22

due respect to whoever wrote in, I'm not

27:24

like trying to be mean to them, but I never

27:27

got the impression that Anna didn't know who the

27:29

father was. I think Anna knew

27:31

the whole time.

27:32

That's a fair point. But why would she make

27:34

April go around and pick all the hair out?

27:36

Why would she do that to her kid?

27:38

She didn't know April was doing it. She

27:40

didn't know what April's project

27:42

was.

27:43

But then how did April know that there's these three

27:45

dads?

27:46

Because so if you go

27:48

back to the episode where Luke shows

27:51

up at Anna's house and he's like, why didn't

27:53

you tell me, she says that she didn't

27:55

know about the project and that April

27:58

had gotten the names for old letters,

28:01

so she put the whole thing on it. Now,

28:04

maybe she was lying. I don't know. We don't have anything to.

28:06

Indicate that, Oh right, they don't.

28:08

She told Luke that April

28:10

did this entire thing completely on

28:13

her own, and she didn't know about it until

28:15

after the fact, So I

28:17

don't I don't necessarily see

28:20

any evidence that Anna didn't

28:22

know who.

28:23

Okay, So that makes sense, all right, So let's

28:26

always trust that everyone's truthful, right,

28:28

So she found boyfriend

28:31

letters or whatever in Anna's

28:33

box of letters or box, you

28:35

know, her hope chest, whatever, and

28:38

she then goes and finds them. Whereas

28:40

we are to assume that April

28:43

didn't know who the dad was, but Anna

28:45

always knew.

28:45

Okay, fair, I can.

28:48

I can accept that? Okay? Fine, it still

28:50

does not make it okay that Anna right

28:53

didn't So that's point as

28:55

well. Yes, Scott's point is well taken in

28:57

that you're right, like you should

29:00

have said to her, back

29:02

up, yeah, girl, you

29:05

show up. You know, I'm throwing the birthday party,

29:07

I'm going on the school trip. I'm doing

29:09

everything you want. And my fiance

29:12

saved the day and your

29:15

kid had a wonderful time and everyone

29:17

is safe and healthy and happy, and you should be sending

29:19

me a muffin basket.

29:21

But I think, you know, I think I think

29:23

Luke is a little gun shy

29:26

because Anna has the power

29:29

of the visitation over

29:31

him. She can withdraw that at any

29:33

time and he'll never see that kid again unless

29:36

her lawyers up.

29:38

Yeah, yeah, he sure could, and he will get

29:40

yeah, a lot. He will get fifty

29:42

to fifty custody. That explains that she

29:45

said the not lawyer.

29:47

So there we go.

29:49

So, uh, good talk, guys, good

29:52

talk.

29:52

Yeah, nice talk, nice talk.

29:54

Got to go.

29:55

So it was sad

29:58

to me, the blowing off, I know, just a a

30:00

button on that that bothered

30:02

me a lot.

30:06

Yeah, I did not like that.

30:09

That did not seem Lorelai ish,

30:11

and it was hurtful. I did not like it. All

30:14

right, So now we're no marro

30:16

wanna sit.

30:18

Now we're in pot Farm, USA.

30:21

Stars. They grow the

30:24

hill the.

30:26

Hill, boy, did they?

30:28

And uh, you know that was

30:30

particularly amusing. I thought, what did

30:32

you guys think? I thought it was funny,

30:35

very make Gilmore girls seem

30:37

very edgy.

30:37

And you know what I missed that came

30:39

back in this episode a bit was is

30:41

the physical comedy even though it was Jackson

30:44

when he bumps into that table and

30:47

the two background actors are like, it

30:50

was a really good bump into. There

30:52

was a lot of physicality for both

30:55

Jackson and Suki, and I was, I

30:57

liked it and we missed.

31:00

I haven't seen that in a while.

31:01

Missed it. Yeah, some

31:04

great lines, Suki blame

31:07

it's the Templeton brothers. Those Templeton brothers.

31:09

They listened to the Almond Brothers. But we should have known

31:12

people that listened to Almond Brothers always smoke crass.

31:15

We're felons that I laughed

31:17

out loud. The Almond Brothers. I used to listen to them

31:19

all the time.

31:20

Same thing when they say, do you think Neil Young would

31:22

want this later?

31:24

But yeah, we're not. Yeah

31:27

that would have just given you right,

31:39

and then we have what makes there's

31:41

some magic happening in stars Hollins Grantly

31:44

Phillipsing

31:47

doing a cover of that Simon and garfal By

31:51

oh Man, and it's just there

31:53

you go, the magic of Gilmore on full

31:55

display.

31:56

Yeah, the magic of background actors

31:59

freaking nailing it. That was a

32:01

long scene with him

32:04

and a lot of background actors

32:07

with umbrellas in the rain, crash.

32:11

To walk through the rain with an umbrella.

32:13

The umbrellas multiple times crashed

32:15

into that tree and they just kept

32:18

going and there were a lot of

32:20

them going. And

32:22

then it continues when you go into the diner

32:25

and the rain is still in the background. Really

32:30

great performance by Rain.

32:32

Yeah, nominated fantastic

32:36

nature. The rain really

32:38

stole stole those scenes. So

32:42

now we're in Luke's diner and Kirks sitting there kind

32:44

of bragging about his beard, a

32:47

little stubble, some grown grown.

32:49

And Luke is in perfect Luke form, like

32:52

can you can you disorder right? Right?

32:57

And then I'm happy with all of it.

33:00

Liz comes in all beaming and happy,

33:02

announces she's pregnant, gives

33:05

her away, was surprised that Luke figured

33:07

it out. Tej's gone, he's left, and

33:09

Luke gets pissed, so he gets all

33:11

brotherly. So he's going to defend his sister.

33:13

He's going to seek PJ out

33:15

and open up a can of whoop pass

33:18

maybe two?

33:19

What may?

33:22

She said, right, she's in her come what may

33:25

stage? Just come what? All

33:28

right? So now we're at Logan's apartment. Paris

33:31

and Doyle are by Logan,

33:35

which is actually very funny.

33:37

Oh my god, wait really fast. So

33:40

I can't take credit for this because it's in one of

33:42

my Gilmour books, but

33:44

there's an episode where Liz

33:47

reveals in season four that

33:49

her boyfriend was the

33:51

garbage collector but also has

33:54

the marijuana something.

33:57

He's the one that sold her the pot.

33:59

Yeah, so so technically there's

34:01

a theory in the book. And I will give credit

34:03

to the Gilmore Girls Companion book for this note.

34:06

Uh, Suki and Jackson

34:08

could have just tossed the marijuana and had no repercussions

34:11

because the garbage collector saw

34:16

his side hustle of marijuana just

34:18

calling it out. Good great, great

34:21

knowledge by the companion.

34:23

Book that so thank

34:26

you for that. And so now Logan's

34:29

trying to get out of bed and Paris is not allowing

34:31

it.

34:33

Oh my god.

34:34

Through Rory's instructions.

34:36

It was actually funny.

34:38

And there's the what is it? What is

34:40

it? The penguins?

34:41

What's the Penguin movie?

34:42

Wasn't that how I learned that penguins they don't

34:44

mate for life, but they mate for season.

34:48

They like mate, and then they have a baby. It's

34:50

it was that the March of the Penguins.

34:53

They probably couldn't say it because they call it the Penguin

34:56

movie. Oh my god, penguins

34:58

are it? Also,

35:02

tupperware is a bedpan is not about cool?

35:04

And Logan just wants to move around. They don't want

35:06

him to. Uh

35:09

So does Paris

35:11

call Rory and say, hey, what's up with this guy?

35:13

I think I think Rory calls to

35:16

check in on Logan, or Logan calls Rory to

35:18

be like, you got to get these two crazy?

35:19

Yeah, the Maidens calls Rory.

35:22

Right Doyle. Doyle cracks

35:24

me up in this scene. Yeah, I

35:26

love them together.

35:30

They're hilarious every time, totally.

35:32

And she's studying for the mcat or whatever, and she

35:34

says all the parts of thee they.

35:37

Gave Paris the perfect companion, like

35:39

casting wise, the actor, but also

35:42

the character.

35:43

Yeah.

35:45

Yeah, well, and he's gone on to be legit

35:49

Doyle.

35:51

Oh yeah.

35:54

And then Rory calls from the from

35:57

Yale Daily News newsrooms.

35:59

So he's trying to present Rory with

36:01

the editorial piece in the from

36:03

the Wall Street Journal.

36:04

They left me hanging there. I was like, what, we.

36:07

Don't know what it is. Yeah,

36:09

but then we find out what it is. And Mitcham,

36:12

is is quoted

36:14

in this article, is taking credit for

36:16

a couple of people careers,

36:19

and he mentions Rory Gilmour out

36:21

of the blue and says, I gave her her break

36:23

at the Hartford Gazette,

36:25

that she went on to be the editor of the Yale Daily

36:27

News, which I

36:29

I gather as a very lofty perch in the journalism

36:32

world, because if you come out of there, you're gonna you're

36:34

gonna do pretty well, pretty well

36:36

in the world of journalism.

36:38

Do you feel like she should have been as like bent by

36:40

Mitcham as she is.

36:42

That was a little over the top.

36:43

Yeah, yeah, I kind of agree with

36:45

you there. That might be the one chink

36:48

right there.

36:48

I didn't mind it with Logan. I

36:50

thought that part was good. It

36:53

was when she called the paper.

36:55

I'm like, that was.

36:58

Right, right, a journalist

37:00

herself, right, you know, like

37:03

you don't do that. There was nothing

37:05

in that article that wasn't factual,

37:07

just because he was, you

37:10

know, upset by it, because she has kind

37:12

of this knee jerk reaction to Mitcham has

37:14

nothing to do with the article itself.

37:16

I don't know. I just didn't yet. Yeah,

37:18

well, at least she got something out of the unpleasant

37:22

encounter.

37:23

With Mitcham's truth actually

37:25

true.

37:26

Right, you know, And maybe that was

37:28

his sort of backhanded way of making

37:30

amends somehow, right, and his twisted

37:33

soul. All right,

37:35

Now we're back at the dragon fly in

37:38

and Michelle is really kicking in

37:40

with the over the top calisthenics

37:43

using the luggage cards.

37:47

And I mean, it

37:49

was it was just that was particularly

37:52

over the top, wasn't it. But it's still funny. It made

37:54

me chuckle, you know.

37:58

Uh.

37:59

And then Emily calls

38:03

Laureal I and think we find out she's uh

38:06

needs that the Lasik surgery did

38:09

not go well. But Laurel

38:11

I doesn't know about this because Richard apparently

38:13

did not tell her.

38:16

Also classic and great, And

38:19

then I had a red flag on this

38:21

though, because if she had

38:23

surgery and it didn't go well, I

38:25

can't imagine Richard flying off

38:27

to South Dakota. He would have been like, no, find

38:30

somebody else to do this business

38:32

trip, because my wife is having a

38:34

medical crisis. I need to be with her.

38:36

I felt like it all happened at the same.

38:37

Time that in fact, what happened

38:40

or did he leave the day of the surgery?

38:42

Well, why would he do that? Like that didn't

38:44

make.

38:44

Sense because it's not a Lasik surgery.

38:46

It's not right, Like it's like kind of like

38:48

a trip to the dentist times

38:50

a.

38:50

Little bit right, it's like Blasik

38:52

surgery. I would make my husband be the one

38:54

that like takes me and pick me up.

38:56

They also have a lot of help at the house,

39:00

Like he's going to help her people.

39:02

He's got a big account to settle in South Dakota.

39:04

And most of the time, don't you get Lasik and then you just

39:06

like cruise home and you're good.

39:09

Yeah that's what I thought.

39:10

Yeah, I don't.

39:11

I don't.

39:11

I think it went awry, But I'm not mad at rich I'll.

39:13

Let you know, I'm pretty much almost there.

39:15

No way you're going to do it.

39:16

Well, I don't know.

39:17

I mean I.

39:19

Want to, but I'm just too scared.

39:21

Yeah, why have you have you heard bad things?

39:24

No, I just.

39:26

Your eyeballs contacts.

39:29

I don't mind wearing contacts all the time.

39:31

So it's kind of like whatever.

39:33

I will say. Side note,

39:35

my mom had cataract surgery and she doesn't

39:37

even need her glasses anymore. Really,

39:40

it's crazy.

39:41

And that's lazy.

39:43

No, it's full cataract. They like, I don't

39:45

know what they do to you. Speaking of a

39:48

lot of on the caregiver,

39:50

I had a driver like twelve times. You have to

39:52

go air and back and it check out the next day

39:54

and then the next day and the next day. That being said,

39:58

she literally couldn't had to have

40:00

glasses and couldn't really see. And now

40:02

she doesn't even wear glasses,

40:06

like crazy town, how well it works.

40:09

So then so now you my cataracts

40:12

surgery.

40:14

So Richard's bagging on South

40:16

Dakota says it did.

40:18

Not look like he was in a hotel in South Dakota.

40:21

Looked like he was on set with the same

40:23

rain in the background, just saying yeah.

40:26

He said, this hotel smells like

40:28

a foot.

40:29

I laughed, out loud.

40:31

That was good.

40:33

Yeah, because I know that smell great.

40:35

It's like rotten cheese.

40:37

So now we're back with Suki and Jackson

40:42

staring at their bags of marriage and

40:46

they have to wait for dark.

40:48

Oh my god, starting to

40:50

smell.

40:51

To move the contraband if you will,

40:54

uh and yeah, the house has started stink.

40:57

And now we're back at Logan's apartment and

41:01

they talk about you know, he calmed, Logan

41:04

calms down about I

41:06

realized that it's the boon for your career.

41:09

Yeah, react, this is you know, it turned out

41:11

very well that one.

41:12

I that scene I liked.

41:14

I'm liking them right now, Susan.

41:20

I thought that scene was okay. There

41:22

was one Rory had this one

41:24

weird long trunk of dialogue. Yes,

41:27

yeah, it was way over the top about thebituaries

41:30

and I memorized all his kids.

41:32

That was stupid. She would not have said

41:34

all that. I thought that was silly. But other

41:36

than that, I thought that was a good scene.

41:40

And now we're at Emily's and she is

41:42

uh, sprawled out on the

41:45

sofa with sunglasses on in

41:47

the dark, in the dark, but

41:50

it was very well lit in the dark. Yes,

41:52

Lorelai comes in refers to as missus

41:55

ownassis h

41:58

Doctor Mengele, and we we get

42:00

onasa's doctor Mangole and Marcus Welby

42:02

md all in one paragraph.

42:06

And then uh, cab

42:09

drivers in Prague? Do you know about them?

42:13

That?

42:14

I mean? This is what I'm talking about the

42:16

combination of pop culture references

42:19

in here is staggering. You

42:21

go from missus onasas

42:23

doctor Mangle, Marcus WELLBMD to cab

42:26

drivers in Prague.

42:26

And I believe it's the second time cab drivers

42:29

have been mentioned?

42:30

Is that right? Who else writes like that? Nobody else?

42:32

Right?

42:32

The cab drivers got mentioned in

42:34

season one. Also they really yea

42:37

also stolen from the Gilmore Girls companion

42:40

Guide.

42:42

So now she's you know, she's pulling off

42:44

her whole diva routine.

42:47

Feel sorry for me. You're

42:49

going to have to take me.

42:51

To on all her errands,

42:54

Like can I just do the errands? Because that's literally

42:57

what I would have said, Can I just do them? I'd

42:59

be so to do them.

43:01

It's the taking of the the mom

43:04

on the errands.

43:05

Yeah, do you want to hear my red flag

43:07

on this scene? And this actually

43:10

I didn't even catch this, but my husband pointed

43:12

this one out.

43:12

Oh, mister

43:15

Suzanne, I'll

43:17

tell her all in that place. We've

43:21

all met him too, and we like him a lot.

43:23

By the way, so.

43:24

He pointed out the According

43:26

to the dialogue, the doctor only

43:31

operated on the one eye because he wanted

43:33

to direct how that one healed before he did

43:35

the other one. So how is she blind? If

43:38

they didn't even operate.

43:39

On one eye? Would work? You know, I don't know that

43:41

she's blind, though, I feel like she's having great sensitivity

43:44

to light. One

43:46

can obviously sort of see.

43:49

Yeah, I mean maybe the way in

43:52

the hat she's so helpless and

43:54

she said she was blind for forty

43:56

eight hours or something like that.

43:58

You would think you would just wear an eyepatch so

44:00

that you can.

44:01

Right, she could wear a patch and although a patch

44:03

is tough, maybe

44:06

it was just tough.

44:10

It's good fly. That's a good fine

44:12

good flag, yeah, good flag.

44:15

Yeah.

44:15

But also then I wouldn't get all these great scenes of Lorelai

44:18

driving that ginormous.

44:19

Suv, right, and they

44:21

talk about it. She just Emily doesn't

44:23

want to go in the jeep, so she wants to go and

44:26

car Jake.

44:26

I wouldn't want to go in the GP either, so bouncy.

44:29

I'm not a fan of those wranglers.

44:31

Bullet proof, not comfortable.

44:34

Yeah, we get

44:36

mentions of me and Pharaoh, Broadway, Danny

44:38

Rose, and Sarah Bernhardt, so

44:42

they were flying. The pop culture

44:44

references were flying.

44:45

Yeah, yeah, it's going to be a serious pop

44:47

culture episode this week.

44:57

All right, Now you got a bar. Luke

45:00

I love, Oh my God, storms

45:03

into the bar because he wants to he wants

45:05

to take a little chunk

45:07

out of Teach.

45:10

And this was a good scene. Although the

45:12

speech is fascinating,

45:15

the Luke speech. Yeah, I'm

45:19

glad we didn't have again what I call Three's Company

45:21

episode, Like we didn't have to. We got right to

45:23

the fact that Teacher's.

45:24

Like, uh Luke

45:26

Dane's psychologist.

45:28

Yeah, we got quickly to the

45:32

meat of it is that which we knew. Liz

45:34

kicked him out, So I'm glad he explained

45:36

that real clearly, real fast. And Tej Yeah,

45:39

I love how TJ was.

45:42

He had no idea why Luke

45:44

was so mad, but he's basically like, okay,

45:47

hit me, go ahead, Like he

45:50

he was like, okay, I'll just let you hit

45:52

me, Like you didn't want to fight and you was just gonna let Luke

45:54

hit him. I just I don't know, I thought.

45:56

But he was so concerned about the bar

45:58

owner's rules, like don't burn down the house

46:01

and no fights inside.

46:04

Is there anything else, Susan, and you feel you need to

46:06

say about Luke's speech? That did trigger me.

46:08

I definitely was like, this is a long

46:10

speech.

46:11

It's real rich coming from

46:13

Luke's really right.

46:14

Exactly, Daniel, Like I wanted to grab

46:17

Luke by the shoulders and shake him and be

46:19

like, do you hear yourself right now? Like

46:22

apply this to your own life?

46:23

It was so, But can we discuss

46:26

that? Why is that? Like, why is

46:28

it that he is so oblivious?

46:32

Is he oblivious or is he because.

46:33

He's so caught up in Well, he's

46:35

not oblivious. He's so hot

46:38

up in the fact that he just found

46:40

out he has a child. He's oblivious

46:43

to I will give him that a little bit.

46:46

Well, he is caught up in the whole child

46:48

thing, but he is completely oblivious to loralized

46:50

feelings. Yes, I have no explanation

46:53

for that. Pancakes, It

46:56

does good, pancakes probably

46:58

a good tune of melt.

46:59

Too, Yeah, not bad, not bad? All

47:02

right, So now we're driving with Laurella

47:04

and Emily amazing, and she's doing

47:06

about five miles an hour, and

47:10

that.

47:11

Entirely Emily knew where the exit was, which

47:13

is why I don't think she's blind, right,

47:15

because she goes, you're going to miss the exit, like you

47:17

wouldn't know that if you couldn't see, And.

47:21

That entire scene was looped.

47:25

Em thank you for that note, Scott.

47:27

It was looped.

47:28

I have to rewatch. It didn't bother me because sometimes

47:30

looping.

47:30

Does.

47:32

You know, it's just a little Maybe they.

47:34

Had bad audio in that suv, well.

47:37

Yeah's it always happens when you're on

47:39

location. And

47:42

then you know, they

47:45

talk about Chris's short hair and how Emily

47:48

thinks that it makes him kind of look like a convict

47:50

or a miss messuse either

47:53

or, and then Emily starts in with her sort

47:55

of her her manipulation.

47:58

Yeah, you ulations

48:00

talk about Emily's manipulations.

48:04

I just didn't quite understand

48:07

why Emily is suddenly so concerned

48:09

about Christopher's love life, well, especially

48:11

because of the end, right.

48:13

She's trying to

48:15

get these two back together.

48:17

But she isn't, which I would

48:19

have thought that too, But she

48:21

isn't because what she's doing is

48:23

buying a house for Laura Lion Luke, So.

48:29

Maybe she's just messing with her.

48:31

Well, I think it's just a bait and switch to the audience

48:33

personally, as like, you

48:35

know, that's to me where the

48:37

writers were going, We're going to have We're

48:39

going to dupe the audience here, right, it

48:41

sweeps this is that we're coming towards the end of the season.

48:44

The whole episode, the audience is going to think that

48:48

she's trying to get her back with Christopher,

48:50

which we all are already in on the and

48:54

then we get to the house and which is

48:56

such a kind gesture, but I digress.

48:58

Yeah, I agree, big gesture, three

49:01

aggres a pond nice and.

49:03

Laurel lies like so moved by it,

49:05

and we get

49:07

the moment of.

49:08

You know, it just didn't track for me with

49:10

this whole Like, yes, it's a grand

49:13

and awesome gesture to buy them

49:15

a house, but Emily was just

49:17

at their house and saw that they renovated

49:20

it and that she even complimented

49:22

Lauralize saying that this is this is a homey

49:25

house, like I can really see you here. So

49:27

why would she then buy her a new house?

49:29

Because she said that Luke

49:32

wants you know, he's a man, he wants acreage

49:34

and he wants to space.

49:36

She wants her to have horses, and you're not going

49:38

to let me throw you a wedding, right, so let

49:40

me give you this house. I think it's

49:42

like, you live in a nice house right now, But

49:44

wouldn't you want a bigger hole? So if someone's going

49:46

buy.

49:47

It for you, I would take it.

49:48

Yeah.

49:49

So is this where I should talk about what

49:51

I think the ulterior motive is or do we want

49:53

to talk about the other scenes?

49:55

No, talk about that.

49:56

Let's talk about it.

49:57

Let it out, Let it Okay. So now

49:59

this this may

50:01

be completely wacky and probably

50:03

a lot of people are going to disagree with me, but I

50:06

think that the house, I think it's

50:08

a I think.

50:09

It's a nice gesture. Let me say that. First of all,

50:11

I thought it was very thoughtful that she wants,

50:13

you know, Emily thinks Luke should have his own place,

50:16

and they want to have horses, and you know,

50:18

they can make it a star's hollow address. I did

50:20

think it was a nice gesture. But

50:23

the way in my brain is

50:25

tying it back to the very beginning

50:27

of the episode, when they were saying,

50:30

how you know, we

50:32

had lunch with Christopher and we're not mad

50:34

at him anymore about paying

50:36

for Yale and blah blah blah, because

50:40

they figured out a different way

50:42

to manipulate loraal life financially.

50:45

So if they buy this house

50:48

for her, that is yet another

50:50

way that they

50:53

will have something hanging over

50:55

her that they can use matipulate

50:57

her.

50:57

But don't you think they would have done that anyway

51:00

if their relationship had never

51:03

gone wry. No.

51:07

I think if they were close, they

51:10

would have done the same thing. Had she

51:12

been in some kind of a situation where

51:15

whoever she married wasn't doing

51:17

well enough to do that, then,

51:20

because they were having a good relationship

51:22

and there was never a falling out, the

51:25

Gilmore would have done this anyway.

51:26

I think they're trying to do something nice.

51:29

Now, I think they're

51:31

trying.

51:31

To do something nice, but it just conveniently

51:33

also benefits them.

51:34

Well, yeah, look, Emily

51:37

is always looking for a way to be more

51:39

connected to Laura,

51:42

LII and Rory. Right, So I

51:44

think it's a super nice

51:46

gesture. It's super like there's

51:49

a lot of heart to it, right because of where

51:52

they did it, and that she picked the house that LAURAAI

51:54

would like. She did not pick the house she would

51:56

like, right, And yes, if

51:58

it connect them to her,

52:01

that's sort of a cherry on top, I think for

52:03

her.

52:03

Yeah, I just think that that was why

52:06

they were so ready to let

52:08

go of the whole you know, Christopher paying

52:10

for you ale thing, and like, oh, we're not mad about it

52:12

anymore because we figured out

52:14

this other plan. Like they didn't say that part out loud,

52:17

but that's kind of in my head

52:20

where they were going with it, because I can just hear,

52:22

you know, at some point in the future, I

52:24

can hear Emily's voice when the next time

52:27

Laura I pisses her off, and you

52:29

know, I can hear Emily saying, you

52:31

know, after we bought that house for you, I can't believe

52:33

you would say that. Like, I can totally hear that happen

52:36

at some point in the future and that would

52:38

be used in that way. And another

52:41

thing too that I

52:43

caught when Emily was saying,

52:45

you know, something

52:47

about how she knows that it's going to take

52:50

Luke some time to get used to the idea because

52:52

it is such an extravagant gift, and she

52:54

says something about I've

52:56

concocted a few lies that we can tell him

52:58

for his own good. She

53:01

can never not be devious. She's

53:03

already figuring out how are we gonna

53:05

lie to Luke about this house, which

53:09

just annoyed me. I don't know, I just didn't

53:12

think it was purely a

53:15

gesture of love. I think it was calculated

53:17

to benefit them.

53:18

And didn't really take Luke's feelings into consideration

53:21

at all.

53:21

Right, I mean, like Zebra doesn't change

53:23

their stripe, She's still always going to be how she

53:25

is.

53:26

But I still was like.

53:27

Not mad about it.

53:29

Yeah, just get the house, and it was like get

53:32

the three acres, Yeah, the

53:35

three and I begat

53:37

one of the funniest lines in the whole episode.

53:40

He says, you didn't really think we were shopping

53:42

for a hearse, a

53:45

place where neighbor would come over with the pie and want

53:47

to chit chat.

53:48

What scenes did we skip? Because

53:51

I know we skipped the scene of Suki and Jackson

53:54

getting rid of the the marijuana

53:56

when they bump into the We.

53:59

Didn't skip anything.

54:00

We're not there yet, that's right. So

54:02

we went ahead with Suzanne.

54:05

Ready to ride in the sun.

54:06

Okay, so we allowed Suzanne the moment to

54:09

give her yeah, ships where she calls

54:11

the paper, she calls the Wall Street Journal.

54:13

But we talked about that.

54:14

Earlier and we didn't skip anything. We just

54:16

gave you.

54:17

We gave you. Yeah,

54:19

gosh, Scott didn't what you have to hold.

54:21

On to that? No, I unburdened

54:23

yourself.

54:24

Yeah, so keep going, all

54:26

right.

54:27

So now we have a

54:30

request coming from Rory to

54:32

the Wall Street Journal writer to

54:35

to retract, i mean, edit

54:38

out change what was said by

54:41

mitcham Huntsberger in the ratcle and I

54:43

think it it gave birth to

54:45

one of the silliest scenes. According to

54:48

Suzanne. You want to you wanna opine

54:50

on this scene.

54:52

Well, I kind of already did. I just didn't. I

54:54

think as a journalist, Rory would have known

54:57

that the Wall Street Journal is

55:00

not going to publish a correction I.

55:03

Mean on that correction of what exactly.

55:07

Yeah, if

55:10

that melodramatic tone of this episode

55:13

that I wasn't.

55:14

And if you're if you're at the Yale Daily, and if you're going

55:16

to pick up a phone and give it, give somebody

55:18

at the Wall Street Journal the business so

55:20

crazy? Yeah,

55:23

it was all

55:28

right. So now we're at Luke's

55:31

and uh, and

55:34

Liz is having a meeting with

55:37

her. Oh yeah about

55:39

single mothers.

55:40

Remind me that scene in Jerry Maguire when

55:42

all those ladies are sitting around with Bonnie Hunt.

55:45

Right, I'm like, oh my god. And

55:47

Luke comes in and says, Liz

55:49

want to talk to you, and they talk and then lets

55:52

her know that he knows what really happened. And

55:54

there's t J waiting outside.

55:57

I love TJ without a jacket.

56:00

Out a jacket, and he

56:02

gets them back together. Isn't that nice?

56:05

Uh?

56:07

And now we're at with Laurel

56:09

I and Emily once

56:11

again, and

56:15

she's taking her to the real estate office and

56:17

and Laurel I wants to know why she doesn't and this is

56:20

the scene we talked about with the house and uh,

56:25

uh, I guess.

56:27

We talked about this, says

56:30

the wedding.

56:30

Is it? That's

56:33

the big takeaway

56:35

from this?

56:35

Right, leading us up to the finale of.

56:38

Did that seem a little out of left field

56:40

for anybody?

56:41

Or yes? I think I think

56:43

that it's extreme

56:46

that she thinks they're like not

56:48

gonna make it. Like life

56:51

is hard, right, and if you're going to marry somebody

56:53

you're gonna have ups and downs. So that's

56:56

where I'm at on it, Like I kind

56:58

of took it that I've minutes

57:01

chill.

57:01

I'm kind of like, finally somebody is acknowledging

57:04

this isn't going to happen. Like that's how

57:06

for me, I was more relieved.

57:09

I still get it. I don't see

57:11

it not happening, do you know what I'm saying.

57:13

I could have used one sort of botched

57:16

attempt at communication that didn't go

57:18

well and they get

57:21

into a little mini fight about it or whatever,

57:23

and then they're not speaking. I mean, I could have used a

57:25

little fireworks to make

57:27

me buy into this more.

57:29

I just don't see their relationship being

57:31

as disastrous as

57:33

you guys. And I guess I might

57:35

be wrong, but I just don't see it

57:37

being either.

57:38

So I don't either. I

57:41

don't see, don't I don't feel, I don't see.

57:44

I mean, I understand what you're saying, but we haven't

57:47

seen it played out correct.

57:49

It's like we don't have enough inserts or

57:51

scenes. Like there's one scene of Luke

57:54

in bed and the kids are downstairs. After the

57:57

Field Company has a moment of reflection,

57:59

he stills the ceiling because the alone

58:01

he is thinking about Lorelai and am I blowing this or

58:03

whatever? I don't know, but there just needs to be

58:06

more of that.

58:07

Yeah, I mean, I don't find I've seen many a show

58:09

where relationships are terrible, and this one isn't

58:11

it right. So I'm just saying it.

58:14

Isn't It isn't terrible, But there's also

58:17

it's not right either.

58:19

But if it's not set up well, it comes off like

58:21

melodrama. And that's why I came off like melodrama,

58:25

you know what I mean? Like it it seems

58:27

kind of out of the blue. And then we're not gonna make it,

58:29

mom right, I'm like, what right?

58:32

You know?

58:33

Give it we needed anyway? Ah.

58:37

You know, if you want to make a meal lot of it, you better prepare

58:39

the food. Yeah,

58:42

all right, So now we've got Suki

58:44

and Jackson hustling the

58:46

bags of meal the

58:48

good Zepo and they mean

58:51

the pickles.

58:52

Oh yeah, you know what I always forget in my mind,

58:56

even though I just watched it yesterday, Right in my

58:58

mind, that's the end of the episode.

59:01

But it isn't. Just like Gilmergle was always

59:03

a little bit more okay.

59:04

So they run into uh Grantly Buffalo

59:08

and he's got great news and for a music

59:11

just a street musician, a local street

59:13

musician to say something like, hey, you're not gonna

59:15

believe this. Somebody, a promoter ran

59:18

into me on the street and said, hey, you want to open food

59:20

a couple of dates for Neil Young. I

59:22

mean that is like, you know, that's like

59:24

lightning hit to you. It's it's just fantastic.

59:27

And they just go, yeah, great, we gotta go.

59:29

Then they just don't even care.

59:30

Right then they hit

59:32

the rabbi and the priest are there and

59:34

they talking about some things and

59:36

feelings and philosophies. You guys want

59:39

to talk a little bit. Now we got to go boom. So

59:41

this was maybe my favorite scene out of the

59:43

whole thing. Uh

59:46

And then here we are. Lorelei

59:49

arrives at Suki and Jackson's place

59:52

and she is in a state.

59:54

Yeah, which I like that she went there.

59:56

I liked that she's she's

59:58

in a state she needs to talk

1:00:00

or she just needs to be around her friend. And

1:00:04

it ends with her

1:00:07

saying what's that smell?

1:00:09

That was good?

1:00:10

And how many pounds of marijuana tod Suki

1:00:12

said.

1:00:13

Was sixty sixty something. Yeah, just

1:00:15

sixty eight.

1:00:16

Pounds in marijuana. That's just that's what's

1:00:18

sixty eight pounds in marijuana?

1:00:19

Wow?

1:00:20

All right? So what are we giving it?

1:00:21

Kids, Danielle,

1:00:25

I'm going to give it

1:00:27

eight point seventy five pickles,

1:00:30

bags of pickles, gotcha?

1:00:32

Gotcha? Uh, Suzanne,

1:00:36

I don't know.

1:00:37

I have to continue the trend because these are

1:00:39

not good episodes for me. I'm going to give it

1:00:41

seven, and I am

1:00:43

struggling to even give it that much, but I'm

1:00:46

going to give it seven pairs of dark

1:00:48

glasses.

1:00:50

Seven pairs of dark glasses.

1:00:52

Amy nine, Michelle

1:00:56

doing a lot of calistex

1:01:00

aerobics dance.

1:01:01

Just call them reps.

1:01:02

Yea, all of it.

1:01:04

Uh yeah, I'm gonna

1:01:07

Now that we've discussed it and more

1:01:11

fertile minds than I have pointed

1:01:13

out some obvious flaws, I'm

1:01:17

gonna go below nine. I think I

1:01:19

was gonna give it a high nine, but I think I'm gonna go

1:01:21

eight point nine. Okay,

1:01:26

almost a nine. You know you could round

1:01:28

it to a nine. But I did enjoy

1:01:30

the episode. I

1:01:33

laughed quite a bit. I enjoyed the

1:01:36

jokes. I mean, the jokes were great, but

1:01:40

yeah, no, I see everybody's point here, so

1:01:42

that's gonna be eight point n crutches

1:01:47

logan crutches one. Yeah,

1:01:50

all right, so what's are we doing? Favorite lines?

1:01:52

What's your favorite line?

1:01:53

My favorite line was when they were at the real

1:01:56

estate office and the lady

1:01:58

asks Laura if she needs an hour for

1:02:00

her headache, and Laura, no, I've had the headache

1:02:02

for thirty Yeah.

1:02:04

I thought that was very funny. I liked that

1:02:06

whole scene. I don't have a favorite line,

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but I really liked that whole everything

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about that whole scene.

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I liked Emily's line when she

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says, you didn't think we were gonna

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buy all the stars hollow? I would be terrified

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today it would stop chat.

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I'd kill myself.

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I was pretty in the Kirk's beard. Kirks

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beard.

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Anyway.

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That is going to wrap it up, kids. Uh.

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The finale is next time

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Wow, Season six, Episode

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twenty two, end of season six, and

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the name of it escape me right now. I

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think that's the bad thing.

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The next episode is

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is it called Partings?

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Is that all?

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Yeah?

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Partings?

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You're right?

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Partings?

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Wow?

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Pardines. Okay,

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so we'll see you next time kids. Next episode

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season six, the finale episode

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twenty two part times any

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way you want it. You can spell like signs or it

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doesn't matter. We know what

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we mean, and we mean what we

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know best.

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