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Welcome to the I Have
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ADHD podcast, where it's all
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about education, encouragement, and coaching
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for adults with ADHD. I'm
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your host, Kristen Carter, and I Have
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ADHD. Let's
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chat about the frustrations, humor,
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and challenges of adulting relationships,
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working, and achieving with this
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neurodevelopmental disorder. I'll
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help you understand your unique brain, unlock
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your potential, and move from point A
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to point B. Hey,
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have a great time together today. As
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you know, I was sick last week, and
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then it's just gone around
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my whole family. Maybe I was sick two weeks ago, and
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it hit my little guy. He
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is here with me in the office today. He's
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been walking in my walking pad or watching
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his little YouTube videos. He's
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giving me a look. He
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has been sworn to silence. He
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will be quiet throughout the next
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30 minutes while we chat today
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about you being an
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autonomous adult and having agency
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and choice in your life. It's
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going to be a really
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important episode. I might say
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that every time. I apologize if I do. I
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actually do believe it, though. Before
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can do it while you listen,
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much if you would just find that
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rating button and press those five stars.
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If you have the capacity, you can
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write a review, but I mean, honestly,
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just clicking that rating button, it'll take
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you maybe seven seconds.
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If you would just do that,
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that would help me out so,
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so, so much. I'm not sure what's going
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on, but ratings are coming in quite slowly.
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Reviews are coming in great, which I appreciate,
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y'all. But those ratings, my goodness.
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I don't know what's going on with
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all of this. I know everything changes
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from year to year, but listenership, doing
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great. Ratings, not so much. So
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would you click that button for me? It
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would help me so, so much. Okay. I
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can't wait for you to hear what we're talking
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about today. And I also want to let you
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know that when I talk about this within my
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community, it can sometimes be very activating.
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And I just want to let you know in
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advance that this could be a
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topic that stirs something up in
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you. And if so, that's so
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important for you to pay attention
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to. It's actually
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a really good indicator that there's
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something here that's important. Okay. And
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if that is you, if you notice
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yourself getting activated, I really encourage you
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to pause and breathe, maybe
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take a break, take care of yourself and come
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back to the episode if you want to. And
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don't come back to it if you don't want
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to. Okay. So we're talking
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today about the fact
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that we are adults
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who don't have to do anything that we
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don't want to do. Are
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you triggered yet? Some
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of you might already be upset. Taking
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care of your house isn't always easy,
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but it should at least be simple.
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and what I just learned about
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and it has to be simple, right? Because I have
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ADHD. If it's
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not simple, I'm telling you I'm
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not going to do it. That's
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just the truth. This
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is so simple. Now you all know
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that for decades I have reached
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for the coffee pot the instant
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that my eyes open and when
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I introduced the, I use
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the word habit very loosely, the habit of
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drinking AG1. I've done
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absolute shock I've been able to change that.
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got to tell you I do feel a
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it. This
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is a really important facet
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of understanding your autonomy and
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your agency and your choice
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in the world. That
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as an adult, you
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get to decide what you do
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and what you don't do. And
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you never ever, ever, ever, ever have
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to do anything that you don't want
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to do. Now, the reason
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why this is so important, I
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think, personally, and this is just
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my personal opinion, is because
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so many of us grew
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up in situations where
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we didn't feel like we had autonomy
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or the right to self-govern. We didn't
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feel like we were in charge of
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our lives. We didn't feel like we
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could really differentiate from our parents or
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maybe we felt like we had to
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mimic everyone at school in order
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to fit in. We just didn't feel like
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we could be ourselves. We didn't
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feel like we could be in charge
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of ourselves. And we didn't have a
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sense of control. And now,
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in adulthood, oftentimes,
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the outplay of that, what happens in
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adulthood is that we don't feel like
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we have control over what
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we say yes or no to. We don't
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feel like we have control over our schedules.
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We don't feel like we have control over
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our lives. We feel like we are always
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obligated to other people, including our partners, our
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kids, our friends, our kids' schools, our jobs,
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our coworkers, our boss. We're just obligated to
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do that. Obligated, obligated, obligated to everyone
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else and we don't, we often,
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as adults with ADHD, don't feel
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a sense of control. Here's
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why that's a problem. It
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takes us so much mental
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and emotional energy to get
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ourselves to do something that
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we don't want to do.
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Think about something that you don't want to do versus something
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that you do want to do. How
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much harder for you as an adult
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with ADHD, with low
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motivation skills, with low
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dopamine amounts, with task
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initiation deficiency, how much harder is
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it for you to get yourself
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to do something that you don't
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want to do? Something
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that you feel obligated to do? Something that
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you feel is just like the dumbest task,
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like pointless. How much harder
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is it for you to get that thing
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done? It's so
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important that you understand that there
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is a cumulative effect
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on our bodies when
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we are constantly forcing ourselves to
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do something that we don't want
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to do and it does inevitably
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lead to burnout. Now,
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burnout might look different for different
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people. I have a
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lot of people in my focused
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ADHD coaching program who are on
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medical leave for burnout. There
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are a lot of factors that go into
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it, but I would venture to
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say that one of the factors
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that goes into burnout is the
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fact that we do not feel
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like we have agency or autonomy
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or choice and that we're constantly
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obligated to the people around us
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and not making decisions for ourselves.
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This is an important thing to talk
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about within the context of ADHD, especially
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for those of us who grew up
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in families where we didn't have a
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lot of agency or control, where we
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really weren't able to self-govern or maybe
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in schools where we felt like we
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had to just go along
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to get along and we had to
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mask our true selves in
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order to fit in and avoid
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rejection. Okay, there's only so long
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that we can live counter
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to who we truly are. And
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ADHD-er thrives when they are
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aligned. And ADHD-er
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is allergic to not being
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aligned. And so this
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is really, really important. So I just
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want to review two terms
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that I'll be using throughout this podcast. Autonomy
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is the right to self-govern, the
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right to be in charge of
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yourself. You are a separate person
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from your spouse. You are a
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separate person from your mom. You
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are a separate person from
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your colleague who performs the same
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tasks that you do. You are
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separate, you are different, and you have
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the right to self-govern and the right
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to be in charge of yourself. Agency
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is the sense of control that
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you feel about your life. And
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I have a question. Do you
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feel as though you have agency
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in your life? Do you feel
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as though you have the right
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to be in control of your own
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life? I
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just taught a course on self-trust
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within the Focused ADHD Coaching membership.
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It was a beautiful course. It is available to you
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in Tier 1. Anytime you are
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ready to hop in and join us in Focused,
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it will be available to you in Tier 1, meaning
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you'll get access to it right away. One
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of the key takeaways from
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that course is that most
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of my clients, I mean, there
11:42
were 800-something clients that went through
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that course, most of my clients,
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and so I think that's a pretty
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big snapshot of the ADHD community, do
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not feel like they have
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agency in their lives. This
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is a big deal. This
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is one of the fundamental
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foundational aspects of being a
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grown adult. And
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some of y'all forget that you're grown.
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And so this is your reminder that you
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are a grown adult. You
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are autonomous, meaning you are different
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from the people around you, and
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you have agency. You
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have control over your
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own life. And
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I get to choose what I want to do and what
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I don't want to do. I get to be
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in charge. All right, how you doing? We're
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just going to do a little check in here. Some
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of y'all are feeling a type of way that's
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okay. It's okay. I
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hear I sense all of the yabbats. I
12:44
sense them, and we will get to some
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of them. But I just
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want you to notice
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the resistance that you're feeling. If you
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are feeling resistance, notice it. What's
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so important to remember and to
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keep front of mind if you
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can, is that as an adult
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with ADHD, you have an
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interest-based brain. That
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means that something that you want
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to do, that you're interested in,
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that you care about deeply, is
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going to be more compelling and
13:18
easier to do usually
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than something that you think
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is stupid, that you think is pointless,
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that you feel obligated to do, or that
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you simply just don't want to do. If
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you don't want to do it, it's going to be
13:31
really, really hard to get yourself to do it. This
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is where the emotional
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and mental and physical
13:38
drain comes in, where
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we continue to try
13:43
to coerce ourselves to do things that
13:46
we don't want to do, because
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we, quote-unquote, should do them, because
13:50
somebody else wants us to do
13:53
them, or because we're not willing
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to leave a job and go
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find something else. And so we stay in a job that
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we don't like. doing tasks that
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we don't enjoy, and
14:03
we just try to get ourselves to do
14:06
that every day because that feels easier than
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the fear of trying
14:10
something new. It takes
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so much coercion and convincing
14:15
to get yourself to do something that you don't wanna do,
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and it is exhausting, and that is
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exactly what leads to shutdown. That
14:23
is exactly what leads to not
14:25
being able to function after work.
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That's exactly what leads to on
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the weekends, you're just like, why
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can't I do anything around the
14:34
house? Because you are recovering, in
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some instances, I'm not trying to
14:38
say every single time, but many
14:40
times it's because you are recovering
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from the emotional, mental, physical,
14:45
maybe even spiritual exhaustion
14:47
of trying to convince yourself day in and
14:49
day out to do something that you don't
14:52
want to do. This is not what I
14:54
want for you. This is
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not what I want for your life.
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This is not a fun way to
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live. Now, I understand that depending on
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where you are in the world, your
15:05
economic status, your marital status, maybe some
15:07
of you are single parents, there is
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a level here of privilege where somebody
15:11
with massive amounts of privilege will be
15:14
able to just snap their fingers and say, don't
15:16
wanna do it, don't wanna do it, don't wanna
15:18
do it, and nothing major will change, whereas someone
15:20
with, maybe somebody trapped in
15:22
poverty, somebody who is in an abusive
15:24
relationship, it's gonna be much harder. So
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I do want to add in that
15:29
nuance. I do want to say that
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I understand, I coach people from all
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different parts of the world
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in different economic standings and
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different relational patterns.
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But regardless of
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your privilege, regardless of what
15:47
you're working with relationally, you
15:49
are still a grown adult. You
15:54
do still need to
15:56
recognize your autonomy, meaning you
15:58
are different. different from everyone
16:01
else around you. You do
16:03
need to recognize your agency,
16:05
meaning you do have some
16:07
choices. You do. There
16:09
are some choices. Maybe not as
16:12
many choices, maybe not fun choices,
16:14
but there are still choices. One
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of the things that I know about myself is
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that I did not grow up in a
16:22
family that celebrated my autonomy, or
16:25
celebrated my agency, or
16:27
taught me how to
16:29
be a strong, independent
16:31
adult separate from my
16:33
family. Much
16:36
of my own relational patterns
16:38
were geared towards making other
16:41
people in my life happy
16:43
with my choices, spending
16:45
my time the way that other people
16:47
wanted me to spend my time. Even
16:50
the college I went to, or
16:52
my career choices,
16:54
things like that, I wonder
16:57
how much agency I had in that
16:59
looking back. That
17:01
led me to was living as an
17:03
adult who really wanted to please people
17:06
with the choices that she made, really
17:08
wanted to please people with the
17:10
way that I spent my time,
17:12
and really feeling like my choices
17:14
had a big impact on other
17:16
people. I always wanted to do
17:19
the right thing, and I felt
17:21
like the right thing was to keep people
17:23
around me happy. Many of my
17:25
choices reflected that, that I would
17:28
spend my time to keep people
17:30
around me happy because apparently I
17:32
had the power
17:34
to do that, which is false. It's not my
17:36
job to do that. One
17:39
of the things that I've transitioned
17:41
to in the last five years
17:43
is I give myself an out
17:46
for everything. I do
17:48
this for my kids too. I
17:50
tell myself, you don't have to do it. You don't
17:52
have to do anything. You don't have to
17:54
do anything. I do not have to record
17:57
this podcast. I do not have to stay married to
17:59
my husband. I do not have to parent my kids. I
18:02
do not have to wake up when
18:04
my alarm goes off in the morning.
18:06
I do not have to do
18:08
it. I am constantly giving
18:10
myself an out. Now,
18:13
what this does for my brain, if I
18:15
don't have to do it, then
18:18
I can play with do I want to
18:20
do it? What do I actually want? What
18:23
do I actually want? I am so
18:25
curious if you just went through your day
18:28
saying I don't have to do this. I
18:31
don't have to do this. Now, what
18:34
that does is it takes
18:36
off the obligation. And
18:39
I'm telling you, living under obligation is no
18:41
way to live. This is what will cause
18:43
us burnout. This is what will make us
18:45
feel powerless. This is
18:47
where resentment comes in, okay?
18:50
And if we take that off and we say, I
18:53
don't have to do anything. If
18:56
I can tell myself I don't
18:58
have to, then
19:00
my brain can start to process.
19:03
Well, I actually kind of want to. So
19:06
I did this when my kids
19:08
were little and I was a very
19:10
overwhelmed mom with three little boys. Oh
19:12
my goodness. O-M-G.
19:16
It was hard. And one of the
19:18
things that I used to do is say, I don't have to do this. I
19:20
could leave right now. I could leave today. And
19:23
then I would start to think about what that would mean. Do
19:26
I really want to leave? Do
19:29
I want to be the person who leaves? Do
19:32
I want to not watch my kids grow up? Do
19:35
I want to, like, what is
19:37
this what I want? And that
19:39
helped me so much to say, no,
19:41
I want to be here. I
19:44
want to be the primary caregiver. I
19:46
want to make sure that I see
19:49
them every day, that I'm home with
19:51
them as much as possible. Like, for me, in
19:54
that time, I was home with them. And that
19:56
was a core value of mine. So,
19:59
have a good day. the out of saying,
20:01
I don't have to do this. I could leave
20:03
today gave me the ability
20:05
to think about what
20:08
I wanted. I'm curious in
20:10
your situation, if you could just look at
20:12
your life and say, I don't have to
20:14
do any of this. I could walk away
20:16
from all of it. What
20:18
would come up for you as far as what
20:20
do you want? You
20:23
don't have to wake up and go to your job. You're
20:26
grown, adult. Nobody gets to tell
20:28
you what to do. You
20:31
do not have to parent your kids. You do
20:33
not have to stay married to your partner. You
20:35
do not have to do
20:39
that volunteer thing. You do not have to work
20:41
out. You do not have to eat healthy. You
20:44
don't have to go to sleep. You don't have to wake
20:46
up. You don't have to do anything. You
20:49
get to self-govern.
20:53
What I'm asking you to do
20:55
is to play with this because as someone
20:57
with ADHD, you need an
20:59
out. You need to
21:01
be able to tell yourself, I don't have
21:04
to do this. Remember many, if not
21:06
most of us who
21:08
have ADHD have coexisting
21:10
oppositional defiant disorder, meaning
21:12
we don't want to
21:14
take orders from anyone
21:16
including ourselves. Even
21:19
an order from myself to myself
21:22
feels rude. It feels
21:24
coercive. It feels like a demand that
21:26
I want to avoid. It's like, don't
21:28
tell me what to do. You don't get to tell
21:30
me what to do. I think that for
21:33
me personally, the reason why this
21:35
feels so strongly for me is
21:38
because I didn't
21:40
grow up with a lot of agency. I didn't
21:42
grow up with a lot of control. I did
21:44
not grow up as someone whose autonomy was celebrated
21:47
and understood. Now as an adult where
21:49
I do have
21:52
more power of course than I did as a
21:54
kid, all of that opposition comes
21:56
out. Even if it's something that I want to do,
21:58
there's a lot of power. And I'm like, you should do
22:00
this. I'm like, I don't want to do it. And
22:03
then I have to have this conversation in my
22:05
head with myself. OK, you don't have to. You
22:08
don't have to work out. Let's think
22:10
about, though, what will happen if you
22:12
don't work out. Is that something
22:14
that you want? And that's fine. If
22:16
you choose not to, OK, whatever. I
22:19
want you to understand ADHD, or that Oppositional
22:22
Defiant Disorder is very closely
22:24
linked to ADHD. And there's
22:27
a lot of overlap. And if you just
22:29
feel like everyone has a demand for you,
22:31
or there are so many obligations that you're
22:33
fighting against, I want you to understand that
22:36
one of the ways through this is to really remind yourself,
22:38
you don't have to do it. You
22:41
don't have to do it. You don't have to
22:43
do it. You don't have to do it. Now,
22:46
you will often make
22:49
a conscious choice to do
22:51
something, even though it's not fun,
22:54
even though you don't want to do it. Even
22:58
though it's going to be painful in the
23:00
moment. Because when you look at your life
23:02
and you say, for
23:05
myself as an example, when
23:08
I look at my life, I want to be
23:10
someone who can move her body. I
23:13
want to be able to go out and hike.
23:15
I want to feel like I love that sort
23:18
of sore feeling that your muscles get after you
23:20
work out. That's a really wonderful
23:22
feeling. I love the way that I feel when
23:24
I move my body. I love how I sleep
23:26
better at night. I
23:28
will often do something that
23:31
I don't want to do because
23:33
I'm very connected to the
23:35
why. I
23:39
understand why I'm doing it.
23:42
I want to hike out
23:44
in nature because it helps my
23:46
mental health and I feel better
23:49
for the rest of the day. I
23:51
want to move my body because it helps
23:53
me sleep better at night. I
23:56
want to be someone who ages really, really
23:58
well and is able to. hike
24:00
and do whatever she wants to do well
24:02
into her 60s, 70s and 80s. Seriously,
24:07
80s, 90s, like let's do it
24:10
forever. Okay. So I
24:12
often in the moment, I never feel
24:14
like going out for a hike, but
24:16
I'm like, Hey, this is something that
24:18
is tied to our values. This is
24:20
something that we want long-term. We
24:22
are going to feel better after. Let's just go ahead and do
24:24
it. And most of the time
24:27
yesterday, I couldn't get myself to do it. And
24:29
that's okay. Like when I can't get myself to do it, I'm
24:32
just like, okay, you don't have to do it. And
24:34
then this morning, I remembered how I felt at
24:36
like five o'clock last night when it was like
24:38
finally getting dark. And I was like, dang,
24:41
I really wish I'd gone out today. Like
24:43
it was a sunny, sunny day. And I
24:45
really wish I had gone out and
24:48
felt the sunshine on my face and
24:50
moved my body. And this morning I
24:52
used that to help me move. I
24:54
was like, Hey, remember last night, you
24:56
didn't feel so good. Let's, let's give
24:59
it another try today. Another
25:02
example is this week my husband is
25:04
traveling and he usually does the morning
25:06
time with the kids. And so it's
25:08
on me. And listen, it
25:10
is not my ministry. This is not,
25:13
this is not something I'm good at and it's not something
25:15
I want to do. And
25:17
I gave myself an out. I don't have to wake
25:19
up with my kids, like my big kids who are
25:22
out the door by seven. I don't have to wake
25:24
up with them. And then
25:26
I started thinking, do I want them to wake
25:28
up and be alone? Do I
25:30
want to run the risk of my one
25:32
kiddo who struggles to get up, not getting
25:34
up and me having to drive him to
25:36
school? Is that what I want? Well,
25:40
no, that's actually not what I want.
25:42
So I don't have to set my alarm for six
25:45
30 and get up with them, but
25:47
I actually want to because I don't
25:49
want the other option, which is they
25:52
get up there by themselves.
25:55
I'm not really sure if they're getting out the door. I
25:57
wake up at seven to find or seven,
25:59
whatever. to find that my one kiddo
26:01
didn't make it and now I have to drive
26:03
him and get the other one. Right?
26:07
So recognizing my choice, giving
26:10
myself the out of you don't have to set your
26:12
alarm. It's totally fine if you don't. Like they can
26:14
get out the door on their own, which is true.
26:18
Recognizing my choice, my agency, my autonomy
26:20
in that allowed me to say, nope,
26:22
I want to do it. It's
26:25
just easier for me if I just get up and
26:27
do it. And I did it. I am doing it. It's
26:30
terrible. Another question that
26:32
I love to ask myself is, is it
26:34
true that you don't want to do it? So
26:37
when I say that I don't want to record
26:39
a podcast, and I've used this example before, I'm
26:42
sorry if you're just like, Kristen, stop talking about
26:44
it. But honestly, I
26:47
hate recording podcasts.
26:49
This is the hardest part of my job. I
26:52
work almost full time. I have
26:56
pretty successful company. I'm talking to people
26:58
every single day about ADHD. I have
27:00
a lot of tasks. This podcast is
27:02
the hardest thing that I do. It's
27:05
by far the hardest thing. I hate doing
27:07
it. But do you know what
27:09
I love? I love having done it.
27:11
I love having a
27:13
podcast. I love connecting with
27:16
you listener. Like I love
27:18
it. Nothing makes me happier. So how is
27:21
it that something that I hate doing is
27:23
so tied to an outcome that I want
27:25
so badly? So every single
27:27
week, I have this back and forth with myself. I'm
27:29
like, I don't want to record the podcast. And then
27:32
I asked myself is, okay, you don't have to. You
27:34
100% don't have to. Nobody's going
27:37
to die if you stop recording
27:40
your podcast. But is
27:42
it true that you don't want to? Do
27:45
you truly want the outcome
27:48
of you not having done it? And
27:51
I'm telling you, I do have to go
27:53
through this rigmarole every week. And
27:55
the answer is always no, I don't
27:57
want the outcome. It is. not
28:00
easier for me to just not record
28:02
it. It is not easier for me
28:05
to save it to next week. Crosby's here
28:07
with me today. He's sick. I
28:09
could have easily been like, this isn't a good
28:11
week. I'll just do it next week. But then
28:14
I was thinking, is that what I want? Do
28:17
I want next week me to have
28:19
to take care of this? My
28:21
whole team would be totally fine if I was
28:23
just like, guys, it's not happening this week. They
28:25
would be like, noted. We'll take care
28:28
of it next week. But that's not what I
28:30
want. I don't want next week me to have
28:32
to do this. Like, she's going
28:34
to be mad. She's going to be
28:36
like, really? Now I have to do
28:38
two? You don't say it? Okay. Giving
28:40
yourself permission to say I'm not doing
28:42
it is so important.
28:46
Now, I wonder if you're having the
28:48
experience or like the yeah butt of,
28:50
okay, Kristen, if
28:53
I tell myself that I only have
28:55
to do what I want to do, that I don't have to do
28:57
anything that I don't want to do. All
28:59
I'm going to do is sit on my couch and play video games. I'm
29:01
just going to eat ice cream all day. I'm just
29:03
going to sit on my couch and play video games.
29:05
And what I'm asking, what I'm
29:07
curious about is, is
29:09
that really what you want out of
29:11
your life? Remember,
29:13
you have to go back
29:15
to your why. An ADHD
29:17
brain needs a good solid
29:20
why. And so yeah, sitting
29:22
on your couch playing video games would feel really
29:24
good for like three or four days. And
29:27
then what? Like, where's
29:29
that going to lead you? Is that what you
29:31
really want? So you won't
29:33
have an income. So how are
29:35
you going to eat? Or what's
29:38
your relationship with your partner going to be like? If
29:40
that's what you do? Is
29:43
that what you really want? And
29:45
so just coaching yourself, having
29:48
a little bit of self-talk or journaling
29:50
time on, hey, you don't have to
29:52
do anything. Okay, great. Now, what do
29:54
you want to do? What is the
29:56
outcome that you want? I when
30:01
I was doing these self-trust calls and somebody
30:03
said like, okay, well, what I want is
30:05
to go lay in a beach and not
30:07
talk to anybody and just like chill.
30:10
And it's like, okay, well, first of all,
30:12
you can do that. You are an adult.
30:15
Go do it. But how
30:17
long is that going to be fun for? Like,
30:21
honestly, I've got about four days
30:23
in me of laying around. And
30:27
then I'm just like, okay, like
30:29
this is not what I want
30:31
out of my life because humans
30:33
love to create and produce. We
30:35
are beings with purpose.
30:37
And so, yes, the relaxation is so
30:40
important, but what we really want out
30:42
of our life is to fulfill our
30:44
purpose. So what's that? Right?
30:48
So here's what I want you to do. I want you
30:50
to, if you can, if you have the capacity,
30:52
is to start talking
30:54
to yourself like this, hey, you don't have to
30:56
do it. But
30:58
let's talk about what will happen if you don't do
31:01
it. Okay?
31:03
So maybe the outcome if you don't do
31:05
it is that someone will be disappointed. Okay,
31:08
that's fine. Let them
31:10
be disappointed. But maybe
31:12
the outcome if you don't do it is you'll lose your
31:14
job. Is that something that
31:16
you want? Agency
31:19
and autonomy, self-governing,
31:23
the foundation of that is what do I want?
31:27
And if you don't know what you want, it's
31:29
time to start to tune in and figure
31:32
that out. Because if you don't know what
31:34
you want out of your life, you are
31:36
going to be scheduling yourself at the mercy
31:38
of other people. I
31:41
want you to start looking at your calendar or your
31:43
list and just saying, I don't have to do any
31:45
of this. I'm a grown
31:48
ass adult. I don't have to do any of
31:50
this. I get to choose.
31:53
Okay, so what do I
31:55
want to do? What
31:57
don't I want to do? What is on my list?
32:00
list or my schedule or my calendar
32:02
because of fear. Fear of
32:04
what other people will think. Listen, this is
32:06
probably not a great thing to have on your list.
32:09
What's on my list because of obligation,
32:11
that I feel obligated to make somebody
32:13
else happy at my own
32:15
expense? What is on
32:18
my calendar because I feel guilty
32:20
saying no? Those are
32:22
the things that I want you
32:24
to immediately eliminate. We can start
32:26
with eliminating those things first. It's
32:31
okay if this is a slow process. It's
32:34
okay if you are listening to this and
32:36
you're like, shoot, I don't really even know
32:38
what I want. Then you
32:40
start from there. How
32:42
do I figure that out? That's
32:45
the question. Let
32:48
this be a slow process. I know
32:50
that depending on your socioeconomic status, your
32:52
marital status, if you are a single
32:54
parent or if you have little kids,
32:56
all of these things, it
32:59
might be a harder process for you or an
33:01
easier process for you. I want you to know
33:03
it's not impossible. I want
33:05
you to start thinking about it
33:08
as a long-term goal. In five
33:10
years, what
33:12
if five years from
33:15
now, you, that version of you, only
33:18
has things on their calendar that they want to do.
33:21
They're only showing up to do
33:23
things that they want to do,
33:25
that they feel aligned with, that
33:28
are values-based, that they're committed to.
33:30
There's no fear. There's no obligation.
33:32
There's no guilt. There's no coercion.
33:35
There's just alignment and
33:37
doing things that feel super, super
33:41
desirable. Now, again, remember, even
33:43
working out or eating healthy,
33:45
they don't necessarily feel desirable
33:47
in the moment, but the
33:50
long-term outcome of it
33:52
is what we want. Always
33:54
remember that you have a choice.
33:57
You are autonomous, meaning you are separate from
33:59
other people. other people, you don't have to do
34:01
what other people do. You can
34:03
figure out what you wanna do. Remember
34:06
that as someone with ADHD,
34:08
you have an interest-based brain.
34:10
That means that the things that you don't wanna
34:12
do, that you feel are stupid, that you're not
34:14
interested in, are gonna be so much harder to
34:17
get yourself to do, and
34:19
then that can lead to
34:22
depletion, to exhaustion, to even
34:24
burnout, okay? So remember that.
34:26
And remember that this is
34:29
a long process. This is not like, okay,
34:31
well, I'm gonna clear my calendar today. Like,
34:34
start to do an intake of, what do I
34:36
feel like I have to do? How
34:39
can I get myself to really understand that I
34:41
don't have to do anything because I'm a grown
34:43
adult with autonomy and agency? How
34:46
can I really connect to the things that
34:48
I want to do and
34:50
do more of that? Listen,
34:53
I believe that we adults with
34:55
ADHD can start to make big changes
34:58
in our lives when we connect
35:00
to what we feel called to
35:02
do, what we want to
35:04
do, what we're compelled to do, and
35:06
we start to say no to everything
35:08
that just feels like a full body.
35:10
I don't want to, please don't make
35:12
me do that. When
35:15
your body has that reaction, it's
35:17
important to listen to it. It's
35:19
so important. It's so important,
35:21
okay. Whoo, this is a
35:23
good aim. All right, I hope that you loved
35:26
it. Please don't forget to click that rating button.
35:28
And listen, if you don't want to do it, you
35:31
don't have to do it. It would be helpful
35:33
to me, but listen, I can
35:35
handle myself. If you want
35:37
to do it, great. If you don't, that's fine too. I'm
35:39
gonna see you next week. Okay, bye-bye. Hey,
35:42
ADHD-er, I see you. I
35:45
know exactly what it's like to feel
35:47
lost, confused, frustrated, and like no one
35:49
out there really understands the way that
35:51
your brain works. That's why
35:53
I created FOCUS. FOCUS
35:55
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35:57
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35:59
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36:01
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36:03
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36:06
study, be coached, grow, and
36:08
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36:10
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36:13
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