There’s no doubt that Patrick Krief has “made it.” Guitar player in Canadian indie-rock legends The Dears, Patrick also has a prominent solo career under the name ‘Krief.’ Derek and Patrick sit down to have a chat about his upcoming double-album release Automanic and the perils of putting economic gain over the creation of good art.

Theme Music: “I Quit My Job” by Old Man Luedecke, courtesy of True North Recordswww.oldmanluedecke.comwww.TrueNorthRecords.com