Callie and Travis, 36 and 39, have two kids and live in southern Texas near the ocean. They’ve made a conscious decision to run their own small businesses without the pressure of climbing a corporate ladder. But how relaxed is too relaxed? Callie is ready to get serious; is Travis?This episode is brought to you by:Pique Tea | Get up to 15% off and 12 tea samples at https://piquelife.com/ramit.Eight Sleep | For a better, smarter sleep, go to https://eightsleep.com/ramit for $200 and free shipping. Thinkific | The same platform I use to build online courses online https://thinkific.com.DeleteMe | If you want to get your personal information removed from the web, go to https://joindeleteme.com/ramit for 20% off.Babbel | Right now, when you purchase a 3-month Babbel subscription, you’ll get an additional 3 months for FREE. Just go to https://Babbel.com and use promo code RAMIT.Connect with Ramit• Get the Podcast Newsletter and exclusive Q&A about the show• Get Money Coaching with Ramit • Download the Conscious Spending Plan• Listen to my book—now on Audible• Get my New York Times best-selling book• Get my no-numbers journal• Other episodes• Instagram• Twitter• YouTube• Submit a question for the newsletter iwt.com/askramit If you and your partner have a money issue and you want my help, I occasionally select a couple to work with, free of charge. Apply for my help here.Produced by Crate Media.