In the fourth and final episode of this 4-part series around Software define Data centres and VMware on IBM Cloud, Matt Johnson joins us on the show to discuss the interesting world of RedHat and VMware on IBM Cloud. Customers can take advantage of VMware's support of Red Hat OpenShift in a scalable and automated cloud model. With this foundation, anyone can lift and shift VMware workloads to the IBM Cloud initially and then, over time, modernize their applications by deploying Red Hat OpenShift. We see how simple this really is